>hate DanMachi >like Konosuba Explain this.

1/10, you at least put in some effort.

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>>145589680
>MC is better
Well to be fair Kazuma is pretty based, I mean he-
>than Rance
Okay slow the fuck down pal, let's not get carried away here.

Konosuba is funnier.

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>>145590046
Konosuba was funnier.

DanMachi had a better story, girls, and character development.

Can we agree on this?

>>145589680
Getting quite ahead of yourself there.

Because you think kazuma is catching up to rance's demon kill count and his sex drive is flaring up. Someone is bound to make assumptions and implications.

You cant be frigging serious. You are getting carried away here

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>>145590080
>girls
I strongly disagree.
>story
>character development
Who gives a shit?

>>145590180
There was no character development in Konosuba. The girls never really learned anything (on the contrary, they all stayed the same).

- Megumi still only gives a fuck about explosions (to the exclusion of her party memebers).
- Darkness is still fucking weird (despite it clearly bothering everything).
- Aqua is still a worthless goddess who can't do anything right.
- Kazuma is still a pervert who doesn't respect women.

Meanwhil, Bell-kun actually got stronger--it's the point of the fucking series.

>>145590263
Since when does a character needs development to be likeable? Especially in a comedy.

>>145590299
To be fair Meguimin and Darkness are aware of their faults and express gratiude for Kazama for dealing with them on a daily basis Megumi even have Kazama the option of resetting her skills

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>>145589680
I like both, I just like KonoSuba more than I like DanMachi. I guess it just has a better execution of a comparable premise.

>MC is better than Rance
Nope, he's Rance before having reached adulthood.

>>145590263
getting a higher powerlevel isn't character development.

anyway, Konosuba is a poor man's Ixion Saga.

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>>145589680
>MC is Better
Yeah Kazuma's pretty damn based so of course he'd be
>than Rance.

>>145591379
Agreed. Ixion was Konosuba before isekai shit popped out.

>>145589680
>MC is better than rance

What did he mean by this?

>>145590299
This. Character development doesn't have to be in every single anime for that anime to be good. The reverse is also true. Just because a character gets development, doesn't mean the anime as a whole is good

>>145589680
Konosuba was more self aware and willing to make fun of itself and stale tropes in a humoristic way.

>>145589880
>>145591412
>>145591511
Rance's a faggot

>>145589680
Konosuba's a lot funnier than DanMachi and doesn't take itself nearly as seriously.

>>145591705
It's a comedy anime that pokes fun out of RPG and isekai shit. what else did you expect?

I liked Danmachi.

>>145589680
MC didn't die in the first ep

>>145589680
Bell is a great MC though

>>145591703
you're a faggot

>>145590080
No.
>Konosuba is funnier
>Konosuba has better girls and succubi
>Konosuba has better character development as in how characters interact instead of a worthless powerlevel
And guess which one got a second season?

>>145589680
>better animation

Now stop there.

That minotaur fight was very well animated and shits on anything DEEN has done in the last 5 years.


Everything else is right though

>>145592929
Danmachi doesnt have enough material for S2

>>145592929
Bell's get's development though. You don't see him whining about not being strong Post-Goliath Arc do you?
Please do tell me how Kazuma grows in character instead of powerlevels. Pro Tip: You can't.

Konoshitba is garbage just like Danmachi and I'll never understand why you shiteaters like it so much.

>>145589680
Both are cheap SAO imitations on shoestring budget.

>>145592929
Danmachi isn't getting a Season 2 Dumbass. It's like calling Railgun the Second Season to Index.

>>145593100
>Danmachi
>SAO ripoff

No.

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>>145589680
DFC loli > Oppai loli

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>>145593826
Wrong.

Hestia a bestia.

Guys , to interrupt the shit-posting banter but isn't Konosuba supposed to be a parody of the whole "gone to an alternative world" genre and is kind of taking a dump on the tropes. The characters are not expected to develop , but the environment around them and just throwing them into the next unlikely scenario ?

>>145594480
Yes but like any good parody, Konosuba doesn't restrict itself to making fun of others and is pretty enjoyable per se.

The setting is tongue-in-cheek, but the characters are fun and likeable for what horrible people they are.

>>145594114
She's a wonderful character trapped in a shit show.

I guess that doesn't technically make you wrong.

>>145594480
>parody

the ova seemed pretty real with the MC nearly dying and all.

>>145593045

Kazuma character development happens in the first episode.

>>145590080
Lili is pretty great
As long as she doesn't steal my shit

>>145597118
Sure, but anyone who had watched the show before it would completely expect it all to be a build up to a big punch line that completely undermines all the drama that led up to it.

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>>145591379
DT
DT
DT
DT WO SUTERU

>>145590080
DanMachi had the better goddess. KonoSuba had the better loli and female knight.

>>145594114
Hestia a cum dumper

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>>145589680
Every time I see those brown Danmachi girls I cannot help but think about pic related.

>>145589680
I like both.

>>145590080
story in danmachi is shit. it's all based around a fucking bland gary stu with god mode cheat built in. what's the fucking fun of that garbage?

>>145601319
Not just bland, but a massive pussy allergic to girls, in a terrible setting.

You can tell Konosuba is good because people keep trying to pit it against shittier anime like Danmachi or re:Zero.

Danmachi was overrated tripe. Konosuba was at least funny.

>>145589680
I like both, but it took like 8 episodes for Danmachi to get interesting at all, while konosuba was moderately amusing the entire way through.

>>145601422
the job sword oratorio does at fleshing out Aiz just proves Bell is nothing more than a power fantasy self insert.

Bell ruins his story because the author doesn't even know how he wants to depict him.
Bell rescues a girl that tried to screw him over.
When another group of adventures pull monsters to his group he forgives them and says that if he was in that situation he would have also chosen leave them to fight instead of help. That felt out of character for him to say since he is the goody two shoe who would do anything to help others. Unless he was lying which is also out of character.

Kazuma is an asshole who doesn't like troublesome things and wants to take it easy. At least he is consistent. Comedies shouldn't be taken seriously either.

>>145602202
The whole him saying he'd do the same as the other party did was just him diffusing the situation the best he could, it is in character if you think about how he's trying to get everyone to get along, since that'd be his only option without causing a lot of animosity

>>145591705
Konosuba might not take itself seriously, but I still think it has the most believable setting out of all of the isekai/RPG fantasy shit.

>>145589680
i liked konosube becaause all the characters were kinda jerks to each other but it was good banter

I liked Danmachi more honestly but I have shit taste and the only characters I liked in Konosuba were Aqua and Chris, Darkness was never funny.

>>145593100
Both Danmachi and Konosuba are parodies of what SAO is.

You don't need to be a genius to get that.

'Is it wrong to pick up girls in a dungeon'. That makes it obvious it is just taking the piss man.

Then in konosuba you have a character that is the opposite of kirito, in kirito's place. For one Kirito is Jesus-kun who can do everything and can fuck everything. Konosuba's MC is a literal autist who died because he thought a tractor slowly passing along the street was a fucking truck going 10km per second.

THESE ANIME ARE TAKING THE PISS, CAN'T YOU SEE?

>>145602202
I think Bell would do anything for someone who he considers as a friend/family. He said he would have acted the same way Lion would have when she admits to murdering other adventurers for getting people in her familia killed.

>>145589680
Because everyone on the right is a horrible person. You see that's funny.

>>145603145
Everyone on the right is a horrible person.
Everyone on the left is a horrible character.

>>145589680
I thought they were both enjoyable for what they were. But konosuba is just all around better and more memorable.

>>145590080
Literally wrong.

>>145589680
Better MC, better girl, non try-hard story.

>>145589680
The comedy is the only thing that matters. Konosuba was hilarious, DanMachi was not funny.

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>>145603066
>Both Danmachi and Konosuba are parodies of what SAO is.
And SAO is a shadow of .hack//SIGN?

>>145601844
Oratoria isn't an better, it only exist to wank Aiz

>>145602580
And that's sad.

>>145604193
I'm fine with it. Konosuba gave me what I want out of the premise: a world that exists independently of the MC fucking around in it, with fantasy people caring about mundane things like money and lodging.

>>145603814
Nah, SAO is and always was a story of wish-fulfillment. .hack is more about human interaction and relationships among socially-repressed MMO players.

>>145604262
I meant that it's sad that a fucking parody has a better, more developed world than any other show in the sub-genre.

>>145604353
Wouldn't go that far. Stuff like Overlord exists. However most of the genre is made by amateur writers who cannot into worldbuilding or prose.

>>145604424
Can you explain to me what Overlord's about and how it is not brainless wish fulfillment? I cannot understand how it could be anything else with that specific premise.

/a/ always had soft spot for comedy.

That's why utterly unimaginative tryhard Kyoanus shit like Nichijou could still find place here.

>>145605037
I don't think that applies in the case of Nichijou because it isn't funny. KyoAni just has its dedicated fanbase for whatever they put out.

Konsuba is a hilarious deconstruction of the Isekai Tensei genre, Danmachi is generic boring Isekai shit. What's so confusing?

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>>145600147
NEVER EVER

>>145605193
>Danmachi is generic boring Isekai shit
It's just fantasy wish-fulfillment anon, mc is a native

>>145605249

>mc is a native

Yes but it's still an Isekai since it's not Earth, and still boring as fuck.

>>145605037
A work is praised for achieving what it sets out to do. It doesn't make sense to shit on a comedy if it succeeds at making people laugh consistently but doesn't have great drama or worldbuilding. However, when Danmachi tries to play up the romance angle but is only manages to make it cliched and mediocre people are right to trash it for that.

Konosuba mocked the whole sekai genre and was all around fluffy and easy to enjoy, also no cared about character development or motivation because it was more comedy than story driven

Then danmachi comes off as repetitive and dull at times, it feels like most other sekai stories with MC having the ability to have large power leaps, and I personally found the plot fairly bland but I never actually finished the show so I cant really give it a fair review

>>145604475
it's exactly as bad as the rest but people will defend it because the shit that has nothing to do with the main """plot""" or world building and everything with the entertaining side characters

basically there is a comedy monster girls anime hidden behind the series top layer of garbage that occasionally surfaces

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Lili was qt enough to make Danmachi watchable.

Haven't tried manga or novel.

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>>145601844
>>145604086
>Reading Oratoria
Ainz is a fucking monster. Even with how bullshit Bell is he's still a fucking ant compared to her.

>>145605520
The novel is like 10 times better. The minotaur fight in the novel was the best fight I've read in years.

>>145591379
>Konosuba is a poor man's Ixion Saga
>DT
>good
nigger that anime was fucking cringe
dick jokes: the anime
>look I broke his balls!
>look that woman has balls!
>I want revenge for my balls!
>look! I'm still a virgin!

0/10 shitty bait and shit taste

>>145594114
could you give it a restia?

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>>145590080
>DanMachi had a better story, girls, and character development.
"How do I make a good story? Hmm, I know! I'll just throw in my favourite gods from real-life mythologies, reimagine them in a pseudo-mmorpg world, add several original character so I wouldn't look like a lazy author I am. Oh, and fanservices, lots of them! They all gonna love it!"