Who would win in a fight?

Are you serious? Subaru would wreck that faggot on the left.

Kazuma would easily win but Subaru's return by death would send him back to the last checkpoint, making Kazuma'e victory virtually nonexistent

One is capable of fighting, the other is capable of screaming and being angsty gee i wonder

basically you're saying who would win in a fight between a Monk vs a Rogue

>>145571467
Subaru would win by repeating the fight so any times he knows exactly what kazumas moves are going to be.

The ability to tell future through repetition is a bit OP.

However if it is just a bar brawl rather than a fight to the death kazuma would win because his magic isnt just making smoke.

>>145571467
Kazuma has spells doesnt he

>>145571467
Is this is even a fight? And also which Subaru are talking about? WN Post Arc 5 or LN Subaru? Because WN Subaru would Curb Stomp regardless, bring in Kazuma's waifu's if you want all Subaru need is Bea-ko and he's set.

>>145571467
Inferno Cop

Kazuma would use underhanded methods but in a raw strength fight, Subaru would win

>>145571716
Not really OP since Subaru doesn't use it if he can help it

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Subaru is pretty tough, for some reason. Don't know who the guy on the left is though.

>>145571733
Theft and stealth? Subaru has blind and I'm pretty sure, if Kazuma used stealth, Subaru would stomp around the whole area trying to find him.

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>>145571791
Wrong webm.

>>145571612
>the other is capable of screaming and being angsty
I think that's both.

>>145571747
>Can benchpress 80kg
>Is supposedly Re:Zero Standard Knight in terms of power
>Debuffing is a bitch
>Bea-ko (bit of a stretch but it's a contract regardless)
>Can use Authority of Sloth
>Will rip out your heart from the inside and you won't even notice it
>Will win regardless via Returns by Death
People need to realize how strong Subaru actually is.

>>145571601
Kazuma can be revived and sent back from death too you know

also kazuma has magic and swordsmanshit while subaru has a cellphone

>>145571791
>he actually missed spring aots

>>145571931
Subaru gits good with a sword anon.

>>145571962
winter

>>145571962
Not sure what Rakugo has to do with this thread desu.

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>>145571896
>duels have to be to the death

Unlike Subaru, Kazuma wins his duels. And if Subaru kills himself after losing his respawn will be after Kazuma already won the duel thanks to his extreme luck.

Subaru is the better written character so he wins.

>>145571467
Subaru knows how to throw a punch, despite being a NEET. Try Kazama vs. Saito instead.

>>145571873
>Wrong webm.
Why the fuck would you save what you posted first? It's so dumb.

>>145571931
Kazuma would've been the best adventurer in the world if he wasn't such a prick, this is said via word of god.
Subaru would've been kicked out of shit without his Returns by Death by everyone in Re:Zero world, but that's a bit unfair since everyone in Re:Zero is super powered so if they switched roles, Kazuma would've kicked the bucket by the first episode (not even running into Elsa).

head to head match? Subaru

anything goes? Kazuma (due to being a cheap-ass)

>>145572008
>wins
>uses underhanded tricks
Subaru doesn't need these to even win, Kazuma would get shitstomped into the next day.

>>145571467
Please don't dirty konosuba with power level comparisons, you fucking autists.

Have some healing music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB3c2R1Awg8

>>145572123
If this is the case, then wouldn't Subaru win regardless? Unless we say that luck is to play out... But even then, the only thing Subaru needs to do is Shamac and Kazuma would get shitkicked.

>>145571873
Subaru just fought 3 people on his own and is capable fighter damn.

>>145572236
yeah but it would be quite a few loses before he guesses all of his bullshit

also

Party fight? Kazuma

>>145572232
THANK YOU! Someone who's actually fucking sane in this thread! Hats off to you for having good taste in ED music (ED in general as well).

>>145571467
Another Question. Who would win?

>>145572060
Because it's cute nigga

>>145572284
Well... No. If you look at the first episode and if Subaru himself is able to be underhanded then Subaru would still win. He wouldn't really need Returns By Death (Really though he'd be scared of using it due to when the checkpoint is) because he himself would be able to do pretty decent damage.

>>145571716
This.
Either way, while both are shit, Subaru is definitely shittier.

>>145571791
So qt

>>145571467
Takeru Shirogane

>>145572394
As a person? Nope, pretty sure Kazuma's a bigger prick
As an MC? Still sure Kazuma's the worst of the main characters of KonoSuba.

>>145572103

no, unlike "i have to suffer for no reason" subaru, kazuma will just not give a crap about maids and murderfuck and go somewhere safe to chill a easy life as inventor or something

>>145572502
yep

>>145571736

if we go that way, "final wn" kazuma is actually pretty op, getting ALL the skills and max lv.

can end of the line subaru survive explosion?

>>145572502
Basically. Kazuma would have dumped Emilia as soon as it was obvious she was more trouble than she was worth. He would instead then do literally anything else and grow his wealth and success.

makes me realize how nonsensical Subaru's decision to dedicate his life to Emilia is.

>>145572628
If he masters the Authority of Greed and sure as well cast as many explosions as much as you want.
>The user can stop the time of themselves or anything they're wearing, touched, or even their breath. This stops any interference from outside and only allows the user's interference outwards. This negates any attack against the user, and if the user waves their hand anything in its trajectory is cut no matter the toughness. Atmosphere released from the stillness can cause shockwaves, gravel thrown around can become inevitable shots, and it can enable the user to travel at extremely high speeds. Normally, multiple uses of this ability can be deadly as the user's own heart also stops, however it can be circumvented when combined with another of the Authority of Greed's abilities.

>>145571879
Dude kazuma doesn't scream and whine the shit out to win.

Instead he'd try to be an asshole to win.

>>145572758
I being in love is pretty nonsensical anyway. So why bother?
>>145572502
Assuming that he has Returns by Death via Satella and that's assuming Satella even wants Kazuma as husbando. Not sure if you've noticed but Kazuma's a pretty petty and a damn prick.

>>145572915
Which really only works to his statistically dumb but fantastically good luck.
Gram would slice him in two on accident given Satella's juices all over him.

>>145572915
And so would Subaru. He'd wouldn't even need to use Returns by death beacause Authority of Sloth would just corrupt away any remaining sanity that Kazuma has and he'd just be turned into a bumbling and mumbling bunch of meat.

>>145571791
Name of anime

>>145572758
Kazuma is actually a very kind person. He's just also an asshole too.

>>145571467
>Power level threads with isekai characters.
This thread is fucking disgusting.

>>145571601
> Implying Kazuma would deal a fatal blow and not just humiliate the shit out of Satou into the next checkpoint

>>145573042
The art club god only knows

>>145573089
Why just isekai characters? Power levelling with anything is disgusting nonetheless.

>>145571467
Kazuma has luck. He'll win without fighting by some stupid reason.

>>145573085
Yeah, but he's also reasonable. He's not the kind of man who would see a person who betrayed his trust and killed him in his sleep and then think "actually, she's a good person at heart because she held my hand once!".

>>145571467
The two are much, much more likely to bro it up. They both suffer in very different ways but can sympathize with one another in how they didn't had their ideal of isekai broken down to pieces.

It helps that the authors of both works are close friends with one another. Crossover when?

>>145573085
Just like me!

>>145573042
My art club life is wrong as expected.

>>145571467
Kazuma has evolved beyond his slav tracksuit, so he's clearly stronger.

>>145572103
>Kazuma would've kicked the bucket by the first episode
This time there is no Aqua to limit his fantastic luck so I don't think he would even get in the same mess as Subaru. Also unlike Subaru, Kazuma is actually smart, if ou combine that with his luck, I think he would fare pretty well in Subaru's place

>>145573104

kazuma will just "surprise bind" him with that mithril rope.

Here, duel over.

Nothing subaru can really do, bind will be successful and checkpoint will be after due to kazuma crazy luck.

>>145571467
Kazuma is stronger but Subaru has a will of steel. It would end with Kazuma getting bored walking away after beating Subaru to near death, but then Subaru would stand up and hit him on the head from behind with a nearby object.

>>145571791
Damn she's hot in the anime.

>>145571601
He doesn't need to kill him.

>>145572103
Kazuma would just not have gotten into such problems in the first place.

Hr probably should have looked into the adventures guild and start with low level jobs while Elsa was killing the 2 king candidates.

>>145571968
No he doesn't, the practice wasn't actually practice, he was just swinging the sword around to convince himself and others that he was making an effort to get better.

>>145571467
Kazuma's moveset is broken as fuck
He wins easily

>>145572015
>comparing MC of a comedy anime with one of a plot driven show.

They're both good for the kind of shows they are in.

>>145573130
>>145573202
Oh god dammit.
That webm really made me want to watch whatever show that was, but no way I'm watching that one. A single webm isn't good enough.

>>145573042
My little art club can't be this wrong

>>145573265
How would his luck actually be translated into Re:Zero world? Wouldn't he just get a divine gift like Priscilla? Also with things like his elements in Re:Zero... He is able to learn mana drain (Not many people in Re:Zero can learn this) and he's shown to be able to use water magic so would he be alligned with both Yin and Water magic?

>>145573420
>non WN reader
>talking like he knows what he's talking about.
Keks.

>>145571467
Subaru is pretty strong after the timeskip. Nowhere near as strong as everyone else but he would kick Kazumas ass no problem.

Kazuma clearly, max luck with aqua not being around helps alot.

>>145573042
Re:Waifu Starting Art in Another Club

Bind =/= Shamac
Bind only restricts their movement.
Shamac is whole different level, it takes out each of the target's senses and effectively making a battle lost the moment it's casted on you if the are in an intense duel.

>>145573042
The Melancholy of an Art club.

>>145573042
Sword Art Club Online.

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You see lads, this is where WNfags get cancerous.

They start making up bullshit to support their argument knowing their content isn't translated so hardly anyone can refute them.

>>145573042
God's Blessing on This Wonderful Art Club!

>>145573042
Is it wrong to pick up girls in an art club?

>>145573162
I think many people from 4chan would be the same way. Subaru admitted that he never had any friends, had too much free time, and never accomplished anything in his life, and all of the sudden attractive girls start payin attention to him. Keep in mind that before he died for the first time, he had already spent a whole day with "Satella" exploring a fascinating new world, probably the most he's spent with a female in his life. Then he witness her being killed and discovers he has the power to save her, of course someone like him would go to insane lengths to do so

>>145573042
Problem Children Are Starting Another Art Club, Aren't They?

>>145573543
>How would his luck actually be translated into Re:Zero world
Stop, if we go there we will reach the autism level of powerlevel threads.

>>145573958
Konosuba Luck =/= Re Zero Luck.

>>145573042
My Mental Multiple-Choice Power Is Completely Ruining My Art Club Romantic Comedy

>>145573042
I don't have many art club members

>>145573042
I couldn't become a mangaka, so I decided to enter the Art Club.

>>145573042
A certain artistic waifufag

This is getting out of control

>>145573913
>Then he witness her being killed and discovers he has the power to save her, of course someone like him would go to insane lengths to do so

And then tries saving her twice and gets butchered in pieces.

A realistic character would be too scared and remember the traumatic experiences and would not even try risk his life again.

They would have tried asking help from anyone who seems capable.

>>145573958
Luck is a factual combat ability in Konosuba. For example, Kazuma requested a luck buff in order to use his Snipe ability to make sure his arrows would always land on their targets. He uses Steal and grabs Pantsu and extremely powerful cursed swords. High luck seems to play into any actual mechanical ability that runs on a possibility to fail or varied possibilities that may yield a highly desired one. It's not necessarily horseshit Pocoloco luck, it's just "The best outcome for this ability" luck.

>>145573042
Is this an Art Club?

>>145573042
Gifting This Magical World With Another Art Club

>>145573042
Draw! Artclub Girl

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>>145571467
If it's party vs party Aqua carries the team by dispelling all of the evil bullshit and purifying the onis to death

Man on man Subaru would probably win eventually

>>145573042
It's not my fault that I joined the art club.

>>145571467
Subaru would win.

But people some people will says Kazuma just cause they like him more.

>>145573340
How is Subaru going to stand back up after Kazuma uses Drain Touch on him?

>>145574144
So maybe Kazuma lucks out and Subaru kills himself every time he tries to attack.

It would become an endless loop.

>>145573958
First, get the fuck back to /v/ with that shit.
This autism scapegoating is so fucking stupid, it's a thousand times more autistic to think any amount of seriousness must be dumb.

Second, it's a systemic part of why he survives in the first place. Stuff like the samurai golem is comparatively common place for Subaru.

Kazuma would call the fight pointless and invite Subaru to drink and then to the succubus club.

>>145574389
Or lucks out and subaru rolls a miss on every attack.
Lucks just bs like that

>>145573042
I Was Going to Join the Art Club but then I Got High

>>145574389
That's not how it works. If Kazuma used Drain Touch on Subaru, he'd sap enough magical energy from Subaru that any and all of his abilities would fade, even his physical combat abilities. If Kazuma used Snipe on Subaru, Subaru would almost 100% get hit. If Kazuma used Steal on Subaru, Subaru might lose something silly enough that it would prompt him to surrender. It doesn't affect Subaru's luck.

>>145573042
Bijutsubumonogatari

>>145573042
Art Club's Bizarre Adventure Part 4: Canvas is Unbreakable

>>145574390
> it's a thousand times more autistic to think any amount of seriousness must be dumb.
Oh yeah man, because it's definitely not dumb to compare 2 characters from different universes and trying to translate their powers and abilities into the other universe can only result in coherent discussion,right?
Also, if just one buzzword is enough to upset you, you shouldn't be coming here in the first place.

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>>145573042
Boku no Dark Knight Rises

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>>145571873
Why did Subaru hit that big guy out of the blue like that unprovoked? Why did he land a right haymaker with extra mustard on it, when the big guy was just standing there not saying a word?

>>145574857
Are you stupid?

>>145573042
The Devil is an Art Club Member

>>145573042
Art-On!

>>145574967
Anon has a point, blue hair guy had Subaru caught by the shirt yet Subaru hit the other guy first

>>145573591
I can't read moon.

>>>/2ch/

>>145573042
Art la Club

>>145573042
Fate/Club - Unlimited Art Works

>>145571733
Yin (陰 In, lit. "Shadow"): Subaru can use Yin Magic, though his gate is unstable, and currently he is unable to use magic properly. He later comes up with three Yin Magic that he is only able to use with Beatrice. Of the three magic, the third one is still incomplete, and each magic can only be used once per day.

E-M-M (Emilia-tan Maji Megami): E-M-M is an "absolute defense magic". Beatrice uses Yin Magic to interfere with the time and space around Subaru, and while he can't move during activation, he experiences no interference from outside the barrier. It is similar to the Authority of Greed but doesn't have the same risk, and can be used until mana runs out.

E-M-T (Emilia-tan Maji Tenshi): E-M-T is an "absolute negation magic". A spherical field several ten meters long with Subaru and Beatrice at the center is created which negates effects from mana within it. Julius remarks that it is useful against mages and those who use mana to assist their techniques. However, the magic only negates the use of mana, and so it has no effect against opponents who fight without it.

And he becomes a knight, slightly behind Julius in terms of skill. And with his Authority of Greed, he's pretty much impervious do damage.

>>145575105
So basically Subaru chimped out. He should have been arrested and thrown in prison by Reinhardt.

>>145571467
It's more of about the gods backing them, Aqua and Satella

>>145573042
re: art, life in another club

>>145574134
Subaru is way more unhinged than Kazuma. Kazuma is content being a NEET, while Subaru has more of a miserable /r9k/ type. Saving Emilia is his reason for living, his purpose, and something he actually can do. Also he didn't actually care about her surviving as much as he wanted to feel like a hero

>>145575105
If you have a chance to sucker punch why wouldn't you go for the strongest guy first?

Is return by death considered a curse? If so could aqua technically cleanse it?

>>145575425
Reinhardt was off-duty so Subaru lucked out.

>>145573854
They're both WN so it doesn't really seem unfair

>>145571467
Isn't that basically the same person?

>>145571467
Kazuma actually has combat ability and devious as all hell with his tricky powers so he'd win pretty handily. But Subaru's respawn power sorta makes a fight pointless.

Really though, Kazuma would probably hate Subaru and make him miserable, but never try to kill him. He'd just be a tremendous scummy ass and that's one battle Subaru could never win at.

>>145571467
Speaking as to where they both are in their respective animes, I'd say Kazuma defeats Subaru handily, with Return By Death not being a factor as I doubt Kazuma would outright execute him.

>>145573854
Doesn't change the fact that WN Kazuma has the ability to both foresee and rewrite the future, allowing him to erase Subaru's powers before erasing him from existence.

>>145573265
Does aqua actually have a negative impact on his luck?

>>145579121
You're forgetting that Subaru took the powers of all the Bishops and everything related to Satella in the later chapters of the WN.

>>145571467
the one who can use magic and swords

>>145579422
You're underestimating just how powerful Kazuma's ability was supposed to be. It allowed him to casually defeat a being who was essentially nigh-omnipotent, being responsible for creating the Konusuba multiverse (or so he claimed, I suppose).

The guy attempted to split his soul across the multiple universes, drive him insane with eldritch truths, and even manifested multiple explosions on par with the big bang within Kazuma's internal organs.

Kazuma casually shrugged off every attempt and rendered the guy powerless.

>>145580013
>Posts all this about Kazuma.
>Blatantly ignores the part of the Re: Zero's WN when Subaru uses Satella's power of negating blessings to defeat Reinhard.


If anyone here is underestimating character's abilities, it's you.
Did you even read the WN?

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>>145571467
Kazuma is better, more resourceful fighter so he will win
Subaru may be stronger but that doesn't matter against an opponent that plays dirty

>>145579407
Her stupidity is a constant hinder

>>145579407
Yes.
Imagine youre the luckiest motherfucker on earth and then the unluckiest+1 person in the world sticks to you like glue. Shes pretty much the reason why theyre always caught up in the stupidest escapades

>>145573042
The Art Club Has Declined

>>145579407
Basically Aqua nullifies Kazuma's luck. She's soo unlucky not even Kazuma's luck can help it. Actually had she been paired with someone else that doesn't have Kazuma's godlike luck that person would have died almost immediately.

It's said somewhere in LN and I think anime mentions it too.

>>145573042
My romantic Art Club comedy is wrong as I expected

>>145573042
Kono Subarashii Bijutsubu ni Mondaiji-tachi ga Kuru Sou Desu yo?!?!

>>145580306
I have read the WN. I don't think you've read much Konusuba, though, considering you don't seem up to date with recent revelations.

Kazuma doesn't qualify as blessed as his abilities are an inherent part of the nature of his being. It hasn't been fully revealed as to what he really is but the Demiurge seemed to imply he was some sort of abstract entity who had sealed himself for the sake of his own amusement, with his true being only manifesting in a period of true danger.

Much like Kazuma and the Demiurge were described as constantly rewriting universal laws during their battle before Kazuma pulled the plug on the guy, it's almost assured he's more than capable of rewriting Satella's abilities, as well.

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Who would win in a fight?

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First we had the autism OPM power level fights, now this. Power level discussions need to go and stay go. Go watch Screw Attack or something you autists.

lets start a thread about characters that are "weak" on their verse that are actually "gods" but that stuff is behind a Moon rune language wall and also let not specify at which point in the respective characters timeline we are basing our assumption on

its like you guys only ever talked to literal spastics on american public schools anime clubs...

>>145580920
I know what you're getting at, but you don't seem to understand where Re: Zero's author is trying to take the series.

If you recall the chapters where he was trying to find the Bishop of Gluttony, the part where he single-handedly defeated the white Whale's babies tel you a lot about the extent of Subaru powers.

The White Whale consumes the souls of those is eats. When it does, the existence of the one eaten is erased. Subaru got bit hundreds of time by the baby whales but only got damaged physical. However each time he got bit the scent of the witch got more powerful.

This tells you that Satella's existence itself is cannot be altered easily. Which is why the Dragon won't let Subaru proceed with the ritual to revive Satella

>>145573042
Regardless of My Adolescent Delusions of Grandeur, I Want to join the Art Club!

>>145580981
My dick.

>>145575354
The madman named his spells after his waifu, holy shit.

Kill every one in this thread

>>145575354
>spells named EMM and EMT

What's next? A disrupting spell called EMP?

>>145580981
Anyone else wants to see a soapy wrestling battle between these two?

>>145573042
Ano Bijutsubu de Matteru

>>145573042
My (You) for You Art Club

>>145582184
One called RMC, Ram Maji Cucked.

>>145573042
Neon Genesis Bijutsubu
Followed by Bijutsubu death and rebirth
The End of Bijutsubu
And Bijutsubu rebuild

>>145571791
>>145571791
>Don't know who the guy on the left is though

That's me on the left.

>>145582769
Rem* damn autocorrection. It works for both though.

>>145571467
Subaru is just an inferior version of Vanir.

Kazuma can simply use Bind on Subaru and there is nothing Subaru can do about it since all his movements are sealed.

After that, Drain Touch just to make sure Subaru is unable to do anything else.

Kazuya is from a gag series. He wins by default.

>>145573042
Selector infected ARTXLUBB

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>>145580382
Kazuma beat that one dude with an overpowered sword by being a cheating asshole, didn't he?

In the end, underhanded, dirty MCs who resort to cheating always come out on top.

What if The Punisher starred a isekai LN?

>>145573042
Girls und Kunstklub.

>>145571467

Subaru can breaks Kazuma's Kokoro

>>145573042
Art Club's Book of Members

>>145571896
>Can benchpress 80kg
>Strong

Anon, 80kg is about 176 pounds. That’s not an impressive one-rep max.
Over on /fit/, for example, the general consensus is that 225lbs is a baseline for male strength.

It’s not pathetic, mind you, but having a character brag about bench pressing below average doesn’t support your argument.

>>145581489
He can still change the future to simply have her die, rather than erase her from existance. After all, while witches are powerfull they are not invincible.

>>145571467
Would any of them be able to beat the shieldbro in a 1v1 fight?

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>>145571467

Kazuma is better in pretty much every way possible.

They wouldn't really fight, even if they did they would eventually stop.
Well if they really had to fight to death Subaru would've won because Kazuma can only rely on tricks. If his tricks are revealed through return by death he's helpless.

>>145586844
>lifiting 225 lbs is average
/fit/ says the stupidest shit sometimes, don't you have some "thicc" garbage to be posting?

>>145589722
Kazuma's not a lethal fighter, but the sort who incapacitates though.

While Subaru can come back from death, I don't think Kazuma would be trying to kill him in the first place, even if they fight.

>>145589722
>implying kazuma would fight anyone to the death and not try to worm his way out

>>145575656
Return by Death is a curse from an evil god. Aqua would cleanse that shit SO fast without even thinking about it (>aqua >thinking). Subaru basically stands no chance.

>>145589377
Nope, even at base form they wouldn't be able to scratch him. Unless Subaru uses authorities.

>>145574374
Authority of Sloth needs no mana.

>>145589377
Probably not.

>>145571467
The one who isn't pussywhipped

>>145571467
Pre-arc 5 Subaru, Kazuma would win. Post arc 5 Subaru, Subaru would win.

>>145589958
Please don't talk as if you actually know how RbD actually works because people who's read the WNs still don't actually know the origins behind it.

It's heavily implied that it's the lost Authority of Pride and if that's the case then Aqua's Purification wouldn't really work because Authorities are something given to Archbishops and or people who have obtained Witch Genes in which case cannot be purified because it in itself is not a curse/evil related etc...

>>145590031
>>145590073
I'm pretty sure Subaru might be able to give Naofumi a hard time with his Sin Authorities.

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Which version of Subaru are we talking about here though?

Post arc 3?
Post arc 5?
or the possible Dark Lord Subaru?

Because depending on time-line it might yield different results.

>>145590458

I've only watched the animu, so I judge based on what I've seen.

>>145578778
Subaru would also hate Kazuma in return for being a douche, it'd at make for some awesome foil character if someone ever tried to make a crossover fanfic between these two, depending on which world because Re:Zero's world would make things really complicated if yet another Isekai'd character enters the mix.

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>>145590458
If we are going on the fabled Dark Lord Subaru route Kazuma wouldn't stand a chance. As he would have the power to wipe half the world and rival Reinhardt.

>>145590418
Yeah but I was talking about Pre-Arc 3 Subaru. Shamac would do nothing against Naofumi and all of Subaru's attacks would do like 1 damage.

Considering Subaru can just retry as many times as he needs without anyone knowing he has done so? Also what Subaru, the current anime one or the one who has authorities?

Either way infinite retries and futuretelling is pretty overpowered. Can't really do anything about it either since as soon as he dies it happens, and nobody will have any clue it happened.

>>145572060

Because he saved with without renaming it something relevant, so now both have the 4chan "convert original file name into random numbers" naming scheme and they both start with 1469 so in his folder they were next to each other.

Protip: don't name your shit random numbers. Name it something like "Colette being an idiot with her shoe.webm" and "Subaru actually being useful.webm" or "[Horriblesubs] Konosuba 2 - 01 [720p][8C9B4A93].mkv_snapshot_03.50_[2016.10.21_02.54.43].png"

>>145590770
> Dark Lord Subaru route
Absolutely disgusting. The only true route is to go lvl 1 and bully every encounter.

>>145571467

Isn't Kazuma weak as fuck physically?

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>>145590770
Subaron would be far too damn powerful to use in this. Bring in WN Kazuma if you want but, that isn't gonna stop Subaron from corrupting his mind/ripping his heart out/negating any of his spells/knowing each and every one of his moves.

>>145580981
Emilia with her memories restored.

>>145574183
Considering RbD works even on Reinhardt, I think it's fair to say it works on everyone, regardless.

>>145590939
None of that you!

>>145590939
mammaries restored?

>>145585577
Kazuma and Momoka team up, how much bullshit cheating can they pull off?

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>>145590908
B-but Subaru White Knight looks even better.

Animeonlys don't know but Subaru is getting decently strong now. He has the unseen hand(s) that are strong enough to break trees in half (and can phase through stuff, which means they can grab and squash internal organs) without being seen. He also has the authority of greed, which lets him stop time and cut through any material (though this stops his heart, but if done at the right time it could be used for a second or less to great effect).

>>145571467
Kazuma has leveled up since coming to the world so while he's shit compared to everyone else because of his terrible growth rate he's still a lot stronger then an ordinary human like Subaru and would wipe the floor with him everytime normally.

>>145572232
This.

It's like the faggots who take Saitama vs any other fighting show discussion seriously.

>>145590791
There's also those magics that Beako and Subaru developed for defense and anti-magic. Though Naofumi still has energy skills of his own.

>>145590458
Post arc 5 I'm guessing.

Because Dark Lord Subaru would be near impossible to kill unless you somehow pull a deus ex and seal him like they did with Satella.

>>145582184
>EMP
Emilia-tan Maji Pretty

>>145571467

I don't know the one on the right but Kazuma is pretty cool.

>>145590418
Subaru with authorities would be able to beat Naofumi from early in the novels but wouldn't stand a chance against him from later in the novels.

Kazuma probably wouldn't even try to take him in a fair fight in the first place. He'd most likely try to beat him with the power of money.

>>145591519
>Kazuma probably wouldn't even try to take him in a fair fight in the first place. He'd most likely try to beat him with the power of money.
And he'd lose badly nonetheless.

>>145591566
>>145591519
Or bro it up and steal shit from bandits.

>>145591155
Man Post-Arc 5 Subaru is goddamn awesome.

>>145591627
that as well.

>>145571968
Kazuma has theft, good luck and other spells.

>>145573042

Haven't You Heard? I'm Art Club

>>145591856
He just more likely steal his boxers. Those are worth more than any sword could ever be.

>>145592260
>Not emilia's panties
Are you even trying

>>145573042
KonoBiju

Most of the Demon Generals in KonoSuba are stronger than any of the monsters in Re:Zero.

Liches, Headless Horsemen, a Duke from Hell, itself, Giant Poisonous Slime, etc

Re:Zero monsters just can't compete.

Heck, the female orcs from KonoSuba could probably wipe out all life in Re:Zero and replace everybody with even more female orcs.

>>145591519
Well considering naofumi become the shield god and the literal brick wall of the universe that aint saying much

>>145592842
>All the male orcs has died as a result of Orc's inclination towards acquiring the best genes possible. Even if one is born, it's almost immediately squeezed dry for the tribe to reproduce. This saddens Darkness.
holy fuck that is scary
What can these female orcs do?

>>145590036
Drain Touch takes life force, not mana.

>>145571467
Kazuma would probably bind him. Pour water from his mouth and freeze it while he then runs away stealing subaru's shit.

Its nonsense thinking he would fight at all.

>>145573042
You Can (Not) Join The Art Club

>>145593231
And it's nonsensical to think that Subaru wouldn't fight back to this.

>>145573042
Welcome to the A.R.T (club)

>>145592842
>All MALE life
Fyfy

>>145593331
He already got bind. Can't use return to death when he doesn't die now can't he?

Though they probably will just squat together and act like slavs

>>145592842
Looks like he doesn't know what the beasts of Re:Zero can even do.

Do you know the whale can clone itself infinitely?

>>145593516
Bind takes longer to activate, by the time he uses bind Subaru would've already used Shamac adn would get schmacked.

>>145593590
Pretty sure all Gluttony beasts can do that.

Greed however, made Beako

>>145571467
Subarau wins and sends kazuma to the
next world where he has two non blood related sisters.

>>145592842
>No mention of Ulgarm curses
>no mention of White Whale's Infinite Clones
>no mention of Rabbit Horde
>no mention of Rigers
>no mention of The Dragon
>no mention of the scary-ass fucking centaur
Non WN Reader fag.

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>>145571738
CORRECT

>>145593670
Nope, Bind is instant. Subaru easily binded plenty of royal knights without stopping.

And now Subaru can afford the good stuff like Mithril Rope.

>>145593670
Which would then miss because of kazuma's luck.

And then he escapes when he can't fight him by escape skill

>>145593787
Those are shit tier monsters, newfag.

The Mobile Fortress Destroyer would curbstomp all those monsters.

Only a goddess like Aqua could destroy the Mobile Fortress Destroyer's Barrier.

>>145593787
You also forgot the Sage tower beasts.

>>145593807
Wait... Then how'd Chris even... Also I can't decipher this text, can someone help me since I can't read this shit.

>>145593590
Vanir can do the same thing.

It isn't a big deal at all.

>>145593858
Reinhard.

>>145590770
>rival Reinhardt

Wait what? That's possible?

>>145594006
Yes. Be Satella.

>>145593982
Reinhard wouldn't be able to destroy Satella's seal so what makes you think he could destroy someone else's barrier?

>>145593932
Chris is the goddess of fortune. She os lucky enough to dodge kazuma's binds

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>>145594006
You'd be suprised

>>145594055
Satellas seal is a who other deal. You're basically sealing Satan himself, near-omnipotence.

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>>145594055
Keks, you're funny anon.
>>145594069

>>145593979
Can't compare Vanir to these low-tier beasts man. You'd ruin his rep.

>>145594069
Someone forgot to put the "etc." on that list.

>>145573042
No matter how I look at it, it's the club's fault I'm unartistic!

>>145571467
Are you referring to Natsuki Subaru with the Taida no Ken'nō and Gōyoku no Ken'nō (with the Buttai no Jikan no Seishi) equipped with his Miezaru Te?

>>145573042
The Art Club in the Middle of Nowhere

>>145572289
>>145591407
>No fun

>>145592314
Why would Toyota be carrying Emilia's panties?

>>145594401
More like the only sane ones.

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>>145594069
>First attack immunity
>Preceeding attack immunity

>>145580981
The one that can cast more than a single large-scaled spell without self-inflicted TKO.

>>145573042
I Can't Believe It's Not Art Club!

>>145592314
Hey! That's an insult to Emilia's Pantsu! I said obviously worth more than any sword could be, her's would be far above that!

>>145573042
nARTuto

>>145594459
Yep. He's just that full of shit.

>>145573042
Yahari Ore no Bijutsubu Love Comedy wa Machigatteiru

>>145594069
So is this real or a meme?

>>145594762
Real.

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>>145594762
A meme. He is more over-powered than that.

>kazuma steals subaru's phone
>subaru dies by an accident
>he can't revive or reset because no phone
seriously kazuma has 100 luck
subaru has -100

>>145594998
The phone isn't what causes Subaru to re-spawn.

>>145594069
Not even that strong.

>>145595025
Are you sure?

>>145573042
Witchcraft Works.

>>145595082
Yes.
Because he no longer has is phone post arc 3.

>>145595096
isn't it why he is screwed more than previous in arc 3

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>>145594069
Can he beat Ajimu though?

>>145595134
Technically he can.

>>145595134
He is Ajimu

>>145595134
Well he does have the blessing to gain more blessings so it depends.

>>145595123
What?

>>145595134
His main blessing is basically "get whatever he needs to win". He's quite literally the main character level of bullshit she always said she'd lose against.

>>145571467
>isekai
>average/neet jap highschooler wearing a track suit

>one punch man
he will just keep one punch dying
>overlord
skeletor will find some world class item to beat him forever

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>>145571467
>implying he can ever defeat jihadist kazuma

>>145593131
Drain touch takes both I think.

It's not unknown for drain spells in games being able to take both at once.

>>145595301
World Savior could potentially beat reinhardt if it's powerful enough.

Subaru with the authority of Sloth can summon invisible hands perfect for a sneak attack and summon a black wave of pain, madness and hallucination to corrupt Kazuma. Subaru with the authority of greed is impervious and the sharpest thing in existence, hell it makes kicking dust a deadly ability. Kazuma could NEVER hope to break through greed, as well as survive a chop. This ability has a deadly weakness preventing excessive use, but If any females are there all Subaru has to do is consider them his wives and that weakness lessens. If Subaru gets the authority of lust Kazuma would struggle to kill him as Subaru could shapechange himself into various beasts and shapechange Kazuma into a fly, as well as heal mortal wounds. If Subaru got the Authority of Gluttony Subaru only needs to touch Kazuma and lick his wrist to make him lose his name, his memories or both (causing a nigh-irrecoverable comatose state). Gluttony also has an ability called lunar/solar eclipse. Solar is unknown, Lunar is a frenzy buff that even when improperly used, increased speed to a level bystanders called "instantaneous". If Subaru got the Authority of Wrath he could link Kazuma's emotions with himself causing them to share pain, all damage Kazuma does to Subaru get's inflicted to him as well. Wrath can also make people share death so if anyone dies in Subaru's range it's bye bye for everyone else whose linked. Subaru can also increase whatever emotions, and up to a level where the emotion would cause madness and kill the victim through it's sheer amount. Wrath also has chain control and the ability to ignite those chains, basically fire chains.

Define "win" first, does it until the opponent die? or until the opponent surrender?
If die, then Kazuma. He could manipulate anything to his need, his luck is god-tier luck too.
If surrender, then Subaru. At first, Kazuma kills Subaru. But since Subaru can go back to his "last checkpoint", he can understand Kazuma's absurd technique. How can Kazuma surrender? He later finds out about Subaru's "skill" and finds it impossible to win, thus he surrenders for the sake finishing that useless battle.

>>145596828
Read the comment above please, no luck would save him from whatever I stated above.

>>145596803
wat, is this a new copypasta

>>145596803
Didnt read I'm assuming kazuma wins.

>>145596803
Subaru can't use the other function of the greed authority.

>>145592842
> A literal unstoppable chainsaw man.
> A Kiznaiver woman with Kiznaiver powers.
> People that erase people's memories and existences. Also steals their abilities.
> A man that can induce fear and possess bodies as well as handjobs
>

>>145592842
>>145597231
> And a shapeshifting woman that can shapeshift and heal herself and shapeshift others.
> A man that can control gravity and exert it along with mana
> A woman that can rewrite phenomena and revive.

>>145596909
tl;dr

>>145596909
> no luck would save him
But his luck CAN save him

>>145597400
This is basically the abilities of most of the villains in Re:Zero and supposedly Subaru is going to have them (like hell he is, it's worthless with his capacity, no really). Like right here:
>>145597231
>>145597327

>>145597543
He only has greed and sloth at the moment. And he can't even properly use them Yet

Kazuma would win because I like him more.

>>145597621
This

>>145571467

All Konosuba has to do is cut off Re:Zero's arms and legs and make sure he doesn't die. Given that Konosuba is extremely lucky and also kind of an asshole, it's likely to happen give enough tries.

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>>145571467
>Kazuma
>in a fight
kek

>>145597541
I'm sure no matter how lucky you are that you wouldn't survive a chop from the sharpest thing in existence.
>>145597193
Subaru has the ability though, it's implied if he restores his Gate which has been destroyed Subaru could use his authorities at higher levels of his authority and perhaps even use the other abilities. Besides we haven't heard of the Authority of Pride and the Authority of Envy, and I'll assume both are extremely special because both sins don't have Archbishops.

>>145597918
it would miss. Kazuma will only die when it's cause by his teammates.

>>145573179

No, they become bitter rivals fighting over Emilia.

>>145598025
Then Authority of Wrath: kiznaiver link him and raise his depression or fear till it kills him. Or he could just touch him with Gluttony and make him comatose and play with his soul

>>145598201
He kills himself and goes to Eris.


>plays with his soul
He goes to Eris again since his soul is authorized by Eris.

>>145598326
and then worm his way back to life again

>>145598326
You can't kill yourself when you get Gluttony'd. You become literally comatose, and any traces of your existence is removed. Also your not dead when you get gluttony'd, so he'd be living for the remainder of Subaru's life a comatose body who has almost no traces of existence until someone else claims the authority and releases you.

>>145598557
he would die since his lucky and like I said. Eris got an authority on his soul while aqua is bind to him due to agreement.

>>145598722
He cannot die while he's gluttony'd cause everyone would forget you. What would kill him?

>>145598825
>everyone would forget you.
Except for Eris who manages his soul when he dies and Aqua who is literally bound to him as his cheat item.

>>145598825
Aqua is his cheat item. How can a filthy cheat item forget him?

Can someone tell me the difference between all these versions of Subaru mentioned in this thread? Like post arc 3, post arc 5, WN Subaru, stuff like that. I don't mind spoilers.

>>145598870
No Eris wouldn't forget Kazuma but Aqua would. She's dumbshit and the authority works on everyone whose within the world. Since Eris exists in another dimension she's the only one. Also the fact that he can be conveniently killed and shit makes this a battle of attrition, essentially to break Kazuma or Subaru's spirit. In this case the Sloth authority or the Wrath authority would be most effective.

>>145589377
>god of shield
>beat
Naofumi would hard counter Subaru and Subaru won't even make him move a single inch.

>>145599064
>She's dumbshit
Well that's a fact.
> battle of attrition,
Pretty much, Kazuma is oddly mentally resilient despite being devoured and chewed by a hydra and having dick munched.

he probably break if he gets tortured and shit

>>145599354
Well than Subaru just needs to use Sloth's unseen hands to twist his limbs slowly until they go where they aren't supposed to go. and mess with his innards, or use the black wave of hallucinations, pain and madness. Wrath's link would also serve as a way to break him, making his comrades insane with him, as well as inflicting deadly wounds and then sharing it with the rest, or perhaps burn him slowly with fire chains and sharing that too. Perhaps even taking control of Megumin and Darkness by transmitting dark and intense emotion to them. He could also use Gluttony on his comrades, using corrupted versions of them and playing with em. Greed...Greed is more of a direct confrontation type so it wouldn't work here. Lust...I don't know shapechange Kazuma into a fucking beast and let Darkness's fetish take control, or shapechange into someone familiar and betray him.
If Kazuma doesn't give that much of a shit about his party and his allies most of this is rendered null.
>>145599278
Greed would pass through Nao's shield like it's not even there.

>>145599997
>Greed would pass through Nao's shield like it's not even there.
Nah, but it won't kill him. Daily reminder that he took 9999999999999999999999 instant kill directed to all version of him by bitch goddess and he shrugged he off the moment he ascended. God Naofumi is literally unkillable sine his defense IS unbreakable whether physical mental or magical.

But in early forms he would probably be killed

>>145599997
>>145599278
I wouldn't mean God naofumi, just any version of him before then.

>>145600726
To be fair his shield saved him from dying in all timelines for having the diluted elixir of immortality absorbed already, and that was prior to ascension. Though he did absorb the absolute instant kill erase destruction whatever attack the bitch goddess aimed at everyone else, then reverse polarized it then amplified and sent back at her.

I'm sure subaru's greed authority would deal serious damage to him pre ascension, but it is definitely survivable if it's him.

If someone had read the konosuba LNs,

Kazuma would think it's pointless and just bind Subaru and leave to spend time in his mansion being a merchant. He's rich as fuck which made him go back to NEEThood

>>145602807
But then Subaru has unseen hand and advanced kiznaiver powers. He doesn't need to touch him to kill him

>>145602807
pretty much, not to mention kazuma is a coward who runs away when he thinks he can win. That escape skill is pretty handy

>>145571467
Kazuma is smarter, not a whiny bitch, and had two Goddess backing him up, how is this even a question?

>>145571467
If Kazuma dies he gets revived by shit goddess, if Subaru dies he returns by death. There is literally no winner.

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They would just be bros tbqh. The series are in the opposite spectrum, it's hard to compare.

Both authors are friends anyways and both put SAO in place.

>>145573042

One art club

>>145603555
They probably would be bros, but I could see them getting into shit thanks to Kazuma's sadistic streak and Subaru's pride and desire to be a hero.

I think Subaru would win a fistfight just because he's less of a slacker in general.

>>145604081
more like kazuma is gonna invite him to the succubus house and they start to argue and shit about bullshits.

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>>145594069
>>145595134
but can he beat FRESH

>>145571467
>Subaru has to kill Aqua to win
>Kazuma wins by humiliating Subaru

Kazuma no contest