Ghost in the Shell

It's like an entirely different franchise, but it's pretty good for what it is.

the movie is miles better.

>>145474780

They're not really comparable.

Dont forget the 2015(?) adaptation. It's OK aswell.

>>145474780
Is the 2015 series Arise worth watching ?

SAC is kind of like Cowboy bebop I guess.
Movie is an Oshii film.
Both are great.

>>145474780

That scene is just gorgeous.

>>145474780
As said it's pretty much incomparable even when the franchise is same.
Stand alone episodes are absolutely forgettable.
Complexes are way better.

>>145474780

...and her name is MOTOKO KUSANGI!

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>>145477355

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>>145477355
Yes. But really, don't get your hopes up.

>>145474780
Stand Alone is more similar in tone to the manga, whilst differently adapating stuff at about the same level as the movie.

The movie and it's sequel is really the directors take on GitS more then anything, if you look at other parts of GitS the precise GitS nature is different.

what did you guys think about Solid State Society?
i liked it all the way until the ending came. felt like that was super random and kinda unsatisfying.

>>145478314
It was a more a longer episode then a movie. Still, it was SAC through and through. The ending was...well it was. Not exactly satisfying, but still it brought the movie to a decent end.

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>>145477595

>>145477595

dat quality

>>145474780
Direction, art direction, visuals and music are better in the movie. Story is better in SAC. This is a particularly odd thing to say seeing how good those things were in SAC.

>>145474780

>Sci-fi done right
this is so rare, yet so good.

>>145474780

I don't really see how a 26 episode series can be compared against an hour and a half movie.

Stand alone complex is god tier if that's what you're wondering. The story is so fucking good and attention to detail on the firearms gives me a boner every time. I have yet to find another show with such an intricate and complex plot. Bonus points that the events in SAC are actually realistic.

The movie is a masterpiece of film. The show is great but nowhere near the same level of perfection.

>>145478314
On a similar level as Arise.

I still love Innocence more than GITS1

>>145485574
Mein neger

>>145485574
Do you like abstract non-sensical bullshit?

>>145485703
I do value style over matter indeed, but Innocence is rather straightforward, except for the dollmaker scene

>>145485574

The random quotes were a bit jarring at times.

>>145485794
they were meant to convey new ideas for interpretation during the following scene, not Batou or Togusa's personal beliefs

that's why there was a whole barrage of them - nobody quotes the Bible in the middle of a conversation, all quote scenes existed outside of the plot

>>145474780
it's better.

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>>145477472

The entire movie is, I think in places it's more striking than Akira. That soundtrack by Kenji Kawai is brilliant too.

>>145474780

I really miss the feel of old animation. I'm not sure if its the texture or the shading or whatever, but its something the digital stuff lacks.

>>145488533

you are aware GitS used digita effects in its production, right?

>>145488986

I do. But they were used in a complementary manner along traditional art, not the whole hog.

>>145489059
ie. GitS 1995 vs GitS 2.0

>>145474780
It's shit.
Oshii is near unrivaled and it shows.

>>145485703
There's nothing nonsensical about Innocence. Pretentious, sure. But it makes sense.

The first movie, Innocence, and SAC 1st season are all fantastic in their own ways. I'd consider them about equal.

>>145477595
The fuck did they do to my waifu?!?!?

>>145491313
She's not that bad all the time, it's just some QUALITY.

Arise actually had an interesting take on the character, namely with false memories.

Too bad they fuck it up. But still, it was a new angleish it has been done before in GitS but not as prominently and it's worth commending.

>>145474780

1995 is more artistic, SAC is more commercial.

>>145474780
SAC is significantly more enjoyable because it has a great story and great characterization.

'95 obviously has much more impressive art and animation.

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>>145477355
It's just the show that uses discarded Pandora character designs.

Pandora is as much a spiritual sequel to the Excel Saga manga as it is a spiritual prequel to the Ghost in the Shell franchise.

>>145492235
>SAC is significantly more enjoyable to plebs and storyfags
FIFY

>>145492615
>storyfag
I'm gonna go ahead and wear this as a badge of honor.

>>145492615

>Liking Anime as a storytelling medium is bad.

who's the real pleb here?

>>145488444
>more striking than Akira
fucking finally with some sense, Ghost In The Shell (1995)>Akira

>>145494318
Anyone who thinks SAC has more to say than the film because
>muh length
>muh character development
>muh society exploration

>>145493391
>>145494318
You are the cancer that has killed anime

>>145494560
the animation was prettier in Akira 2bh
GiTS had some very impressive shots, but Akira looked fantastic in almost every frame

>>145492615
>he thinks that SAC is pleb fooder

Your shit taste is showing

>>145494750
Akira doesn't even come close to GitS, though.

>>145478314

just bad. Made just for money probably

>>145494650

argue your point anon.

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>>145494859
I politely disagree

>>145494938
This looks very cluttered.

I've only watched the 95 film. Is there any reason to watch any of the other stuff?

>>145495056
no
it's not even remotely similar

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>>145494962
it's a complex shot, but I think it comes off very well in animation. And the entire movie is in just as high quality, and sticks to the same aesthetics
I still prefer GiTS as a movie, but Akira is just too pretty

>>145495056
SAC is good enough for a watch.

>>145494859
just read the fucking manga

>>145495056
Watch the two seasons of Silvester Stalone Complex, maybe Innocence. The rest is ok, but very poor in comparission with the old stuff

>>145495056
SAC is better than 95.

>>145474780
It's really fucking ugly

>>145495127
it looks like shit as still, that's all.
I am well aware of the idea behind the shot and it works fairly well in motion. But if you stop it it just looks like someone crammed too much stuff into a frame.

>>145491313
turned her into a loli because anime fans are sub humans

>>145495364
I can't get past the first episode of SAC because I'm immediately repulsed by the art style.

It's probably not even that bad, but I can't help but think of the movie and compare it side by side.

A GA MAEBAAAAAA

>>145496059
Your going to love the manga

>>145496059
I don't think it's so much an art style as just making the characters a bit easier to draw consistently by artists of different abilities. It has to be done sometimes.

SAC was way too verbose, it's like sitting through an endless metal gear solid codec call/cutscene sandwich. The movies also to a lesser extent

>>145497840

someone didn't watch the dub

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>>145499377
>Mary McGlynn as The Major