kabaneri of the iron fortress

>>145346829
Sold great and will get another season, so nothing went wrong. Other than hispter delusions that it would fail, I guess.

I got kind of bored of it the episode after they introduced Biba.

>>145346829
Biba happened.

>>145347985
Please Explain.

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>>145347985
IT WAS SO DECENT-GOOD UNTIL THAT DUDE CAME UP
OH MAN I WANTED TO GIVE THIS A HIGH SCORE BUT IT JUST KILLED IT
IT KILLED IT
KILLED KILLED KILLED KILLED KILLED IT
ABSOLUTELY DISGRACEFUL

>>145346829
zombie fusion

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>>145348304
How can one character that isnt the main ruin a series?

It is a dumb action series, pretty enjoyable to watch with friends, would watch a second season, would not rewatch.

>>145346829
>Biba as a vilian.
For what porpose?

>>145348506
Are there nondumb action series?

Biba.

Fucking trash character.

REMOVE BIBA

It wasn't Rolling Girls S2

>>145348574
Kingdom maybe?
When I said dumb I mean bat-shit crazy like JoJo.

>>145348750
But then that means dumb is good. I thought you meant dumb as in stupid/bad

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>>145347001
Why do you guys hate Biba so much?

Please explain.

I stopped watching the episode he showed up and want to know why you think it's so bad.

What did Biba even want? What was his goal?

Every one was insanely stupid, I.E. acted unrealistic, creating spirals of forced drama. All they had to do was have lots of battle with yukata loli girl, but they fucked it up. They even started fucking up immediately at episode 2 by adding shit loads of stills

>>145348938
His character was poorly thought out and badly implemented. I still can't tell you what his motivation was other than to cause everyone to become kabane, because his dad pissed him off. Everyone following him clearly knew this as well, and did it just because?
He's a bad villain, but it's made worse by the fact that the second six episodes revolve entirely around him. The first 6 were fun train shenanigans that didn't take itself super seriously, and then the next six are a complete reversal into shitty drama and shitty villains.

>>145349060
>Every one was insanely stupid, I.E. acted unrealistic,
This is good. Predictable, normal characters are boring. The mentally ill characters are beauty.

>>145348348
Zombie fusion was interesting, fuck off.

They needed a monster that couldn't be killed by just chopping his head off.

Considering WIT is still making stuff about kabaneri, I wouldn't doubt a season 2. Maybe in the beginning of 2018, or late 2017.

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Another case of "Japan makes strong starts but shit endings." Pic semi-related.

What a waste of money. Great visuals paired with a terrible story, as expected with Japan.

>>145348938
He's generic as fuck.

His sole saving grace is Miyano.

>>145348938
Biba is to Kabaneri what Five is to Zankyou no Terror

>>145350136
>implying Japan gives half a fuck of what the nerds over MAL think.
Re:zero has a pretty high score in MAL, and its first BD still sold fewer units than Kabaneri.

>>145346829
RETARDS EXPECTED ANOTHER FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST

>>145350422
I realize that Japan's taste is vastly different from the West. That's why BD sales threads are such shitfests.

Don't shoot the messenger, I just collect data and present it.

>>145350540
So maybe people shouldn't be going apeshit over this series when it did what it was meant to do: sell to the Japanese. It wasn't meant to sell to the foreign hordes, so they didn't need to change Biba

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>>145346829
Episode eight. The storyline was just simply not that engaging until at the very end.

Biba's character wasn't handled well. The writing made his actions and motivations unclear to many people who thus wrote him off as a shitty villain.

But basically, he was someone who got fucked in the head ten years ago, wanted justice/revenge against the Shogun, and implemented an immorally twisted plan to save humanity in the long term by eliminating the central leadership of weak cowards so the rest of humanity could get off their asses, fight the Kabane, become strong, and survive/win.

>>145350136
MAL doesn't represent anything.
Japan likes it.
Plebs like it.
/a/ don't mind it either.

>>145350725
So is he basically Shishio?

>>145350725
Biba did literally nothing wrong.

When he saw that Ikoma was superior to him, he accepted that Ikoma should live while he had to die.

>>145350745
If /a/ doesn't mind it, why does this thread exist?

>>145346829
They didn't explained how to zombie virus spread around world and how it was started?

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>>145351071
to discuss stuff and shitpost about mumei, anon-chan.

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>>145351167
I'm still loyal to my Hime.

>>145351236
Jesus Christ, what happened to her face?

>>145351167
The OP post is clearly wanting to talk about what went wrong though--which means he minds that the series went off the rails according to western viewers.

>>145346829
It wasn't Snowpiercer with zombies.

>>145351308
She had nose removal surgery

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>>145351308
Too many snacks.

Maybe we should all try to train ourselves to act and think more like superior Japanese, so we will enjoy what Japanese enjoy.

>>145351342
Well, it was Biba. It's probably safe to say that the japanese didn't like him that much either since the BD sales tanked after he was introduced.

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>>145351361
How do we pierce the snow with our drills, Gurren Lagann?

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>>145351445
Start killing yourself buddy.

>>145348938
Hurr durr Biba like -- let's kill rest of Japan durr! For what purpose? Biba must be a good guy.

>>145351459
Will that turn them off to a S2?

>>145351521
Why do they look like 90s characters?

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>>145351459
Biba ranked 8th place in the best male character category in a Animage magazine. I'm assuming they don't despise him as much as we do here.

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I like how Japan also appreciates the "rock on shoujo!" meme.

>>145350422
Now it's over 10k first volume while Kabaneri has 7,5k

I'm up to episode 6 right now and it's kinda boring
I want to lick mumei's armpits tho
I don't even care if you spoil me because I have no will to keep watching. I'm sad, I was excited to see it

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POST YOUR FAVORITE "OFFICIAL" ART BY THIS ARTIST

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>>145351634
they don't, they look like 80s characters

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>>145352029
way to ruin her character design tho

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>takumi never got his harem

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>>145352162
B-but the Kabaneri volumes cost more so it evens out.

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>>145346829
>mfw ikoman becomes a strogg in the end

mumei

>>145352631
Is that the name of a macross girl?

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I just don't know what went wrong.

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>>145352162
Kabaneri BD: ￥ 14,040
Rezero BD: ￥ 7,560

Rezero ----> around 75,600,000 yen
Kabaneri ----> around 109,470,400 yen

>>145350136
Most people don't rate until a series is over or close to being over

That said, I do think Kabaneri went to shit once they abandoned all hope of having it be a zombie series

>>145346829
it was fucking good

>>145352829
Kabaneri has 4 episodes, Re:zero 1 double episode

>>145352921
>they abandoned all hope of having it be a zombie series
The series theme was fear with zombies mixed in to show it. It's not that difficult to notice starting from episode one.

>>145348938
Biba was complete non sequitur. Plot point from the machine.
>show before
Development of MC-kun's fighting ability and knowledge of himself and the enemy. Armpit-chan learning to fit in with the group. Hime going from naive dumb cunt to competent leader (gradually). On the run from a constant threat. World building.
>suddenly biba
Every development thread goes out the fucking window and the show is suddenly about a sociopath bishounen (real original) trying to get back at daddy (real original). MC-kun just gets handed info on a silver platter from this point on. Oh here's this black blood. Oh here's this white blood. We figured it out for you here's the 10 second 1 sentence explanation.

It was complete bollocks. The show was actually surprising me with how not awful it was before hand. If the show held to being Battlestar Galactica: Thomas The Tank Engine Edition it would've been a lot better.

Would have been better if it was episodic or monster of the week. It didn't have enough episodes for what the staff seemingly wanted to do with the pace at which they presented things.

>>145348938
He is a scapegoat because he encapsulates everything good and bad about the show in one character.

>>145353258
Indeed. 24 episodes could've fleshed out the side characters and their backstories more, fleshed out the Kabane more, and fleshed out Biba's shit more.

>>145346829
the moment he turned pale green

>>145353258
monster of the week imo. they should just focus on short stories within the world since the big story is like whatever

>>145352702
12yo cunt who fucked it all up

>>145353676
The big story might have been better if they had a chance to show more of it. Instead, we have no idea about the origin of the Kabane thing, what's the extent of the Kabane research that's mentioned a bunch of times, whether the people who survived the Biba business are going to try and set the world on a new course, whether there are any people who exist outside of the walled city + train system etc. In fact, even with that they did show, they still left out critical details like what the hell Biba's problem was. People here had to find it out from supplementary materials.

In short, they tried to introduce an actual story arc in 5 episodes and ended up failing pretty hard.

>>145352625
Fuck, man.

This guy's pretty good though.

>>145346829
Did it though? Because it's at least better than that piece of garbage it often gets compared to.

KISAMA!!!!!!!

>>145346829
Mumei

This show had a lot of OC.

The threads were the best all Season.

>>145355391
Too bad I had to wait for the BDs and thus ignored them

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>>145355391
It was still a fun ride even if the second half went to complete shit.

I wish the whole series was shots of the train operator switching off the pressure limiter.

>>145355391
They were the best threads until everyone suddenly started hating it.

The false-flagging also was pretty annoying. I watched everything again, and it's better than I remember.

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>>145355652
Me too anon

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>>145355593
Spiciest memes of the season

>>145355822
Best girl.

>>145346829
it was never good. just style over substance.

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>Mumei's life-size figure

>>145347985
>le biba with no supporting evidence
You faggots need to fucking kill yourselves. You're literally just parroting and it's so fucking transparent

>>145357098
Araki is one of us

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>>145357183
Small waifu for big guy.

>>145349335
>I still can't tell you what his motivation was other than to cause everyone to become kabane, because his dad pissed him off
He wants to breed fear and weakness out of the human race, a desire which originated with his father who was the embodiment of those traits, who he hated. He's taking down the Shogunate because it's the figure head of everything about humanity that he hates - a bunch of rich pussy faggots hiding behind walls. It has nothing to do with wanting everyone to become Kabane or wanting to just randomly destroy the world; he just wants to get rid of the aristocratic cowards who put on a front but actually do nothing to better humanity.
> Everyone following him clearly knew this as well, and did it just because?
I really don't understand how people don't get this. Haven't you ever heard of cults? Cult leaders? People do much, much dumber shit because they're totally devoted to someone through one way or another. Biba had 10 fucking years to build a cult of personality and ensure that everyone was completely and totally loyal. Not to mention that they're in a desperate survival situation and logically see Biba as a way to, y'know, continue fucking being alive.

It's funny because almost all the Biba hating faggots are too dense to understand insanely basic motivation, which is supremely ironic because you call the show and Biba simple and generic and yet can't grasp an extremely basic plot point because you're dumb as all fuck. Literally just copy paste the exact same shit you see around the place because that's what you're meant to say and then jack yourself off about how intelligent and above it all your are. Pathetic.

>>145350629
If they really wanted to just sell to the Japanese, why did they sell out to the gaijins at Amazon and even cite Western stuff like Kickass! ?

>>145357585
2/10 trying too hard.

>>145347001
This. Literal shitter ruined the show

>>145357655
To get as much secondary money as possible

>>145348587
Viva la Biba

>>145346829
Ep 1

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>tfw no translations

>>145346829
It pretended to be SnK

>>145363650
It did a good impression

>>145363650
How would you plan an attack on Titan?

>>145357296
Araki is such a god damn turbonerd.

His original works are basically just a bunch of ideas he likes from anime mixed with solid visuals and sound. It's like if a schoolchild got to make their own anime and I can't help but find Guilty Crown and Kabaneri hopelessly endearing as a result. They're derivative and have some pretty enormous issues but God damn if they aren't entertaining.

>>145346943
>I'm a retard: the post

>>145363650
No it didn't. SnK desperately tried to have a complex and edgy story and Kabaneri didn't.