What is it with shonen and the cliches? It always plays these cliches and people seem to love it.
I don't really have a problem with the Rescue Arc or the tournament arc, but it's just too done nowadays.
What does /a/ think about it?
>>145340093
>shonen
>cliches
Woah.
What do you mean by nowadays? The only recent one I can think of was Hero Academia's Bakugou resuce arc.
>>145340346
It doesn't HAVE to be that way though?
>>145340399
What about the Tournament? And by nowadays I mean "as of 2016"
Like, we've seen the rescue arc a million times, and we've seen the Tournament another million times. Practically every battle shonen has those.
Feel free to post other cliches too
>>145340571
>Feel free to post other cliches too
Trite complaints about shonen cliches is a cliche.
>>145340093
Cliches are cliches for a reason.
>>145340571
Shounen are made for literal twelve year olds to help fill out 700 chapters for monthly manga magazines. Of course they're going to have tons of easy to digest cliches because it helps pad out the series.
>>145340093
You can blame pic related for those 2 and a few more.
Scratch that, you can blame(or thank) Kurumada for 90% of battle shonen "cliches", he made them.
Definetelt blame him for fujoshi though.
>>145341152
Definetely*
Wanting shonen to be rid of cliches is like wanting Sesame Street to become a gritty, serious police drama where the big bird is trying to avenge his family.
>>145341152
Literally who
>>145342017
Literally google it you moron
>>145342017
Kill yourself
https://youtu.be/wy1cdabIRyk
Even Hunter X Hunter has a rescue arc.
At least it doesn't have a tournament arc.
>>145343109
Heaven's Arena dude.
>>145343153
I can't believe I forgot.
Saint Seiya did it right.
>>145343109
Well Togashi is inspired by >>145341152
Goes to Kubo >>145340093 as well
>>145343109
>>145343153
>>145343166
The Hunter Exam was kind of a tournament arc too.
FMA, Fist of The North Star, and Bleach (of all things) are the only ones I can think of that never had a tournament.
>>145341152
>>145342640
All this guy's characters look the same
>>145343659
Well yeah, they're all actors playing different roles.
I'm not joking.
Soul Eater had a pretty good Rescue Arc. Gave character development and everythang
>>145340346
Underated post
JOJO dont have any if I remember right
>>145345384
Stardust crusaders was basically a big rescue arc.
>>145345384
>What is the entirety of Part 3
>>145345635
>>145345727
It's not a rescue arc
They just go beat down the main antagonist
Dio didn't abduct anyone
>>145345968
>who is Holly
>>145345384
Jojo doesn't have any tournament arcs at the very least.
>>145343313
Bleach barely had any arc tho, despite running for almost 15 years
>>145346045
They didn't really rescued holly
She wasn't abducted
Then maybe my definition of rescue is shit but i stand on my point
>>145346300
It's not about abduction. But it can be
>>145340093
gee i dunno those editors are all crazy demanding that the writers put in recue arcs when they are all so popular
wan piss has had like 8 you don't people bitching about those
>>145346105
The Steel Ball Run race sort of counts.
>>145340093
it's an easy way to ship characters off to a strange land or unfamiliar territory usually controlled by the series antagonists, witch will result in a large conflict
as for the tournament arc, it's just an easy excuse to have characters fight each other
>>145340093
>yfw Bleach did it TWICE
>>145342017
saint seyias author
>>145340093
I like it. I mean, it's not like I watch/read battle shounen much anyway, and when I do, I'm fucking expecting tournament arcs and rescues. Why would I bother with them otherwise? If I don't want battle shounen cliches I'd be watching/reading something that isn't a battle shounen.
>>145346996
Nah the race was just a plot device
Halfway in the manga ut's already clear that gyro and johnny wont win and stopped giving a fuck about the race
>>145340093
>Number One starts playing
>>145347150
Twice in a row. Same with Naruto. One Piece has 4, but they were at least they were spread apart.
>>145347242
A lot of tournament arcs are plot devices, they always lead to something else
>>145341152
is this true?
hokuto no ken had a rescue arc, and kurumada gets tones of inspiration from HnK.
>>145348611
RnK: 1977 – 1981
HnK: 1983 – 1988
>>145340346
who's Woah?
>>145348611
No he doesn't. It's all from Ring ni Kakero
>>145341152
>Definetelt blame him for fujoshi though.
Blame Homer and whoever wrote Gilgamesh for fujoshi.
>>145348611
You mean Hara gets tones of inspiration from RNK
>>145343313
Magi hasnt had a tournament arc or much of a rescue arc either
>>145353806
Kill yourself.
>>145340093
Actual answer: rescue arcs are a cheap tactic designed to take a character you've run out of ideas for and use them as everyone else's "motivation" when you've also run out of plot ideas
>>145354262
What if you start with a rescue arc?