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Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that this was actually pretty good?
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Despite having a couple hiccups as well as its dumbass PR and marketing that was initially handled by CIA (who left the project anyway), yeah I'd say it was alright.

Faggots here are just so worried and paranoid about fitting in that they're encouraged to shitpost about it.

Overall I'd say it was good and I'd be interested in seeing this become a TV show.
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>>145158638
'salright.
The only thing I was disappointed by was the fact that most of the action scenes from the trailer weren't in the movie, but I'm not upset about what I got.

It had some dodgy bits of quality here and there, but the way it introduced the characters and concepts gave enough information for me to be interested in it's world and themes, so more than anything i'm just hoping someone actually picks this up and gives it a full run.

If Production I.G. gets a hold of this, it could be the next Psycho-Pass.
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>>145159008
>If Production I.G. gets a hold of this, it could be the next Psycho-Pass.

but it was shit
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I really want to know what happened to the million dollar budget. Did it go to all of the American voice actors or something? There was QUALITY showing a good half of the time.
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>>145158638
I didn't watch it, but from what I've seen of screenshots here it looks like total crap.

>500 bucks
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>>145158638
It wasn't bad. Was kind of suprised with the direction they took it. Particularly based on the promotional videos.
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>>145159030
>>145159133
>>145159162
Oh surrre, not every frame was perfect, so it was complete shit.
God I hate you people.
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>>145159030
first season is an easy 7-8/10
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Animation and world-building is above-average.
Character introduction us a bit iffy and they completely blew it when this mary sue character comes out of nowhere, and made the initial characters irrelevant.
It has a pretty bad delivery of the premise and everything is just confusion and chaos.
The action sequences give off an atmosphere of being in a real-military operation.
Overall, it's good. But not a great "pilot episode" if you will.
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>great direction
>great animation
>great action
I honestly can't see any reason to dislike it
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>>145159225
The premise is unappealing, so I'm not going to watch it, but I would expect a lot more from something that made as much money as it did.
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>>145159225
For a million dollar OVA that wasn't even 30 minutes long, while at the same time having worse art and animation than Mob psycho, Tales of Zestiria, 91 days, and Amanchu it sure as hell was. The fucking solders looked like they had a coat of 3D slapped over them, and had completely washed out colors.

The best thing about under the dog was it got me to watch gunslinger girl.
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>>145159273
>It has a pretty bad delivery of the premise and everything is just confusion and chaos.
Well, I disagree hard with that.
It established the premise pretty clearly if you pay attention, and it did it with almost no exposition whatsoever.
I'm seriously impressed that I understood the basic elements of what was going on without having to be info dumped.
This is what you get when you have serious time constraints to establish a story.
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>>145159355
>worse art and animation than Mob psycho
hahahahaha, no.
>The fucking solders looked like they had a coat of 3D slapped over them, and had completely washed out colors.
And that's also not true.
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>>145159008
Well, that trailer that was originally shown was merely a teaser of what the creators had to offer.

The story and screenplay hadn't been fully crafted yet so as such UTD went through a bunch of rewrites during its development.

They'll probably find a way to recreate those scenes should a TV series get greenlit.

And it's a Kinema Citrus property, so they'll handle it.

All they need is good producers like Netflix in order to provide the necessary budget for the show.
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>mindless
>incoherent
>edgy
I honestly can't see any reason to like it
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This is the anime I'll always bring up whenever normalfags complain about otakus buying generic anime with high school setting plus some supernatural twist

I don't want to hear it from normalfags who are willing to pay 5 times more for the exact same shit
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>>145158638
As a pilot it would be passable, but as a stand alone OVA episode (which is what it is) it's garbage.
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>>145158638
>tits in front
>well animated
>promising story

what else is anime for?
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>>145159133
>>145159355
The Kickstarter amassed $800K, and not all of it went towards the production. Much of it also had to cover backer rewards, marketing, distribution, etc. If you're seriously convinced that 100% of the money raised went towards the actual production of UTD, then you're a fucking idiot.
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>>145159562
this
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>>145159440
The soldiers look fucking awful, for having a standardized uniform and still managed to be the worst looking characters I've seen all season. How can you say this looks better than shows with 1/6th of the budget.
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>>145159382
I may have used the wrong words. Yes I understand the basic premise with the way it was delivered without exposition at all, but it wasn't a strong enough premise to grip you throughout the show. Granted it was enough to explain why things are happening, but it wasn't enough to explain it on a macroscopic level.
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>>145159382
yeah, if there's one thing I fucking hate in anime nowadays is relying on a massive fucking info dump to do their "world building"

Kiznaiver suffered terribly from this shit, and most MMO anime suffer from this shit as well. But despite this nearly 90% of every anime has some form of bullshit exposition where the characters waste your time by directly telling you shit.

>Oh this guy? He's _____, his family died in a tragic accident and also etc. etc. etc.
>this school was established to breed an army of cold blooded killers
>this world is fueled by the great power that is the crystals of karmic bullshit
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For the amount of money they raised, and the fact that it was only one 28-minute episode, it should have been a lot better. 1 million can easily fund several episodes with better animation than what was given.
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Know what's confusing? The artistic integrity that they wanted to keep using kickstarter. What was it that they wanted to use? A boob? That's literally the only thing that was different from other anime shows on tv.
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>>145159844
ConRevo's second season showed a boob or two, so it wasn't that.
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http://www.siliconera.com/2015/06/22/under-the-dog-getting-an-anime-kickstarter-back-on-track/

>[To Morimoto] You were appointed to be Under the Dog’s new producer after Creative Intelligence Arts stepped away from the project. What was the first thing you had to do in your new role?

>Koji Morimoto, Producer: What I had to do first was to grasp the financial situation of the project. I needed to make estimates on all the production costs for anime making and physical rewards, as well as grasp how much is needed to run the project as operational expenses. Before I took on the role and responsibility to help produce the specifics of the project, I examined the budget distribution that was already announced during the Kickstarter campaign.

>I found out: 1) there is a high possibility of rewards costing more than the initial estimates (since there were expensive rewards such as figurines, etc. being included), and 2) there was practically no budget set aside for the operational costs—probably based on an assumption to rely on works by volunteers. Those were the major concerns for me and that’s why I needed to check the financial aspect of the project first.
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>>145158895
>people fell for the 500 dollar bait
I'm disappointed people here would be this gullible. Pretending to fall for it is even more retarded.
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>>145159301
>>great animation
Yeah sure.
It had barely any plot, no characters and it was boring the whole way through.
The MC appears at the last minute and the rest of the OVA focuses on a boring bland kid that just dies anyways.
What a waste of 28 minutes.
>>145159650
The monster at the end looks even worse.
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>>145159611
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2011/10/30-1/how-much-does-one-episode-of-anime-cost-to-make
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>>145159562
Well, the original Kickstarter campaign WAS pitching it as a pilot episode, and there's already been talk of Netflix and/or Crunchyroll producing it as a TV show, so there you go.
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It was okay but the original premise they pitched was a lot more interesting. The inclusion of a lot of supernatural aspects (and a school setting) really diminished any interest there was before. It's not as though expectations were particularly high to begin with but the creative differences and the new direction they took it was not the right choice.
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>>145159974
>spending more on the extras than the actual animation

It's almost like they had no confidence in it to begin with
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>>145160051
>(and a school setting)
I sometimes wish japs would include westerners into their budget.

Too bad there still isn't a reputable and sure way of measuring this kind of interest.
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Isn't it just Gunslinger Girls but with modern production values and no lolis
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>>145160036
after seeing voltron that's not a bad thing to hear.
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>>145160035
That's just a rough average of a typical dime-a-dozen anime episode.

If you think that shows like Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works and One Punch Man only cost about $145K per episode and are gonna use that as your info Bible, then you're retarded.
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>>145158638
I personally would be interested in seeing it expanded. As it is now, it's kind of a throwaway action movie.
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They pulled a fucking Ubisoft on us. The trailer looked great and the animation looked high quality. But the actual OVA was completely average at best. It disappointed me

>inb4 we were tricked into paying for a trailer
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>>145160128
>I sometimes wish japs would include westerners into their budget.
This whole thing is western budget
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>>145160167
Chikashi Kubota himself said that OPM only had an average budget.
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>>145159974
So basically CIA were complete fucking idiots and Morimoto saved the project?
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>>145158638
>people saying it's good without knowing jack shit about the premise (if any at all)
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CONGRATULATIONS YOU SCAMMED PEOPLE INTO A GENERIC ACTION SHORT
WHAT'S THE NEXT PART OF YOUR MASTER PLAN?
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>>145160167
Money doesn't mean shit, just throwing more money at your animators won't make them draw better.
Time and skill are more important and they had TWO fucking years to finish this shit.
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>>145158638
Yes, pic related
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>>145159769
Next people will keep complaining about unexplained shit and convoluted plot, like "what is _______ made for" and "who the fuck is this guy".
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>>145159769
And still it doesn't make sense half the time
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>>145160167
>If you think that shows like Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works and One Punch Man only cost about $145K per episode
So where's the part where you put up some proof to shut him up?
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>>145159611
Even with the breakdown about 40% of the money collected went into that OVA. Which is still far more than the average show.

They overspent and the final product didn't reflect the amount of money amassed.
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Guy who was behind Cannon Busters liked it

https://twitter.com/LeSeanThomas/status/760884438880260096
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>>145160306
CRASHING THE ANIME INDUSTRY
WITH NO SUREVIVORS
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>>145160165
t. Tumblr
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>>145160449
Yeah, but he's the guy behind CannonBusters. Hardly a man with good taste.
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>>145158638
It's out?
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>>145160568
Of course not silly we're just pretending.
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>>145160310
We already established that not only did not all of the money go towards actually creating UTD (>>145159611), but that CIA were complete asshats who didn't have a good budget set aside for the project during pre-production and thought that they could just rely on Kickstarter bucks to cover the costs (>>145159974).

This explains why Kinema Citrus kicked them off the project and why CIA's other Kickstarter project, the JRPG Project Phoenix, has been delayed indefinitely.
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>>145160290
>people actually needing to be spoonfed with exposition to understand a story
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>>145158638

Eh.
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>>145160568
It's been out for like two days. Where the fuck have you been? Go on nyaa, it's there.
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>>145158638
>actually pretty good
It was good enough that I would probably give it the 3-episode test but it certainly wasn't anything special.

I wasn't even expecting much but I was still borderline disappointed. And I assume that the claim that they were trying to do something special that was somehow outside the bounds of what you could do with traditional anime was just marketing BS because there was nothing that really distinguished it from other run-of-the-mill anime. Everything it did, from story, setting, characterization, animation and action was average at best.
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I think is was good, it has a lot of potencial, the action scenes looks good, all this pandoras, flowers, U.S. soldiers looks interesting. But i didn't like the characters QUALITY, looks like shit compared to the first trailer. I mean, they had 900k dollars, so i expected something with good quality and at least 55 min long.

Seriously, you see the OVA and think that it was done with 5k. Anyway, i hope Under the Dog receive a T.V. series, i will be disappointed if it ends like Arve Rezzle, in ''never ever''
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>>145160317
>a dozen people saying they liked it makes it good
I guess Naruto is the best anime ever after all
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>>145158638
>BANG BANG BANG BOOM BOOM
Michael Bay did better.
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>>145160408
kinema citrus should stick to doing SoLs desu

both yuyushiki and barakamon were top=tier
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>>145160867
See >>145160604
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>>145160857
>And I assume that the claim that they were trying to do something special that was somehow outside the bounds of what you could do with traditional anime was just marketing BS
No fucking shit, that was obvious from the get-go. Literally the only thing you should've expected was good action animation which we did get.

>>145161035
Their next series is a sports anime (actual sports, not Teekyu sports) with cute girls who may or may not be gay. Got Irie and Kaori directing, so it should be good.
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>>145161179
>Their next series is a sports anime (actual sports, not Teekyu sports) with cute girls who may or may not be gay. Got Irie and Kaori directing, so it should be good.
Haven't felt this hyped in a while. Although I'm still not sold on this "ping pong is a sport" meme
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How did people like this OVA? The art style was bland, the characters were shallow, the monster was just an EVA complete with AT field, and the main girl's super scifi gear is so out of place with everything else.

Were people too busy day dreaming about what this series could have been to realize what it was?
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>>145160736
When you learn more about the world (the most intresting part in my opinion) from a Wikipedia page then you do watching the show
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>>145159650
i really want to know what idiot thought soldiers wear nightvision during the day
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>>145161501
They need more tactical
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>>145161274
>Although I'm still not sold on this "ping pong is a sport" meme
How isn't it a sport?
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>>145161563
because it's ping pong? AKA table tennis?

When an activity is named "table+[actual sport]" that's a dead giveaway that it isn't a sport.

c.f. foosball AKA table soccer, hungry hungry hippos
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>>145159254
Not even fucking close.
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>>145159273
>Animation and world-building is above-average.
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>>145161669
Foosball isn't in the Olympics.
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>>145161694
It was memetastic. I don't generally go in for the "watching shows with /a/ XD" thing but in that instance...

>>145161898
They don't have to worry about the Chinese boycotting for not including foosball.
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Hana probably died a virgin too, oh the humanity.
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>>145160736
>people actually think knows everything to be told from pieces of subtext
pray tell, why do you demand full serialization again?
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>>145162013
This was an important scene and they didn't even draw her properly. Rip in QUALITY.
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Did it save anime guys?
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I found it interesting that the Flowers organisation were bad guys.

I wonder how loyal Anthea is to them.

Would watch if it got a tv series.

Hope you losers who did pay learnt your lesson.
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>>145158638
>friendly reminder that if you want to know more about this anime's story, you should just read "μ and I" instead.
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I was surprised by the Pandora monster I was expecting something more akin to super soldiers like the villains in Metal Gear when the description referred to enhanced terrorism or whatever.
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>>145162460
Learnt what lesson? They were pitching it as a pilot for a tv show in the first place.

And I only donated $60 to the project and frankly I was satisfied with what I got.

So suck it.
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>>145162736
Probably one of the creative differences during the production phase.

I guess you could the flowers super soldiers.

I noticed Hana actively jam the soldier's gun and deflect glancing shots with her at field.
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>>145162838
>And I only donated $60 to the project and frankly I was satisfied with what I got.
Comments like this are akin to stockholm syndrome.
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>>145159611
nice damage control
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>>145162838
>>145162838
>And I only donated $60 to the project
You paid $60 for a 20 minute OVA?
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Going to have to switch to his left hand now.

>>145162838
Even though the end product turned out nothing like how it was initially advertised?

Also, 60 dollars is a bitch much for the effort in this show.
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Well that was pretty shit. I can't believe I bothered to shell out money for this even as a fucking drunken joke.

Not only were the advertised scenes in the trailer not even included but the actual quality of the show, which was the only thing I was interested to see in a substanceless OVA, couldn't even trump an average high end TV series. The worst part? It didn't even focus on cute bestiality-loving operator girls operating.

In a way, it really was reminiscent of those old forgettable 90s OVAs except it didn't have the animation quality to back it up. God fuck this just have some hack like Umetsu do another Mezzo Forte again. At least LWA actually delivered on the hype.
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>>145162651
>took a curious peek
I'll be damned, add more loli and UTD becomes Myuu And I.
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>>145162945
To be fair, the nips pay $150 for 2-3 episodes, so it's not that bad, all things considered.
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>>145163301
>have some hack like Umetsu do another Mezzo Forte again
After the debacle that was Wizard Baristas, I don't think he's even got that in him.
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Anthea tits.

Do you think she's a virgin?
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>>145163564
They do pay for shit they've seen and still want it, instead of paying for shit they haven't seen at all.
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Did literally every American die?

;_;

>>145163603
>Wizard Barrister

Jesus Christ, what the fuck happened to that show.
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>>145159511
Wasn't it basically funded by leddit?
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>>145163966
and /v/
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>>145163618
>Anthea tits

Haven't seen it yet but did it at least have bouncy animation?
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>>145160604
>We
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>>145162409
From what?
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I quite like the music here.

Who was the composer?
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>>145164940
I want to lick Anthea's Swedish armpit.
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I don't regret backing this. I enjoyed the episode more than I thought I would. Would definitely support future works for UTD. The only thing I didn't like were some of the VAs. Fuck, I should have participated in voting for the VAs
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>>145158638
The fucking shills in this thread.
Fuck this OVA and fuck anyone who deludes themselves into thinking this was a success.
>CIA fucks up and steps down
>Mentat crashing this project
>Backers deluding themselves that their money was put into good use
>it's mostly CGI being retraced
>95% QUALITY
>$878,028 without including contributions outside of the kickstarter
>Hideo Kojima endorsed the project
>team wants to use kickstarter again for future episodes
>there was no dog
And I hope you fucking remember that this will be the only episode we will be getting.
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>>145165372
>there was no dog

Truly the biggest disappointment of the entire project.
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>>145165372
We already know what happens when things go "under the dog," so perhaps it was all for the best.
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>>145165372
>it's mostly CGI being retraced
[citation needed]
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>Begs for money that normally can fund an entire anime season
>Promises to "save anime" by delivering a groundbreaking show
>Kickstarter team fiasco causing many members to left the project
>Shits out one episode after so long
>WIth barely any scenes shown in the trailer
>And a totally not another shitty urban fantasy plot
>And extremely QUALITY character designs
>Half of the fucking episode is credits

You can't make this shit up
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Now kiss.
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>>145159650
Is that MG done in CG or what? It looks completely out of place
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>>145165372
I knew this was going to be shit the moment it started, but I'm happy that I'm getting a nice figure out of it based on Kozaki's design so I have no regrets.
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>>145165500
I might've exaggerated the "mostly" part.
But it was blatant in a lot of parts.
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Does it have a story?
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>>145165896
Gunslinger Girl meets Saekano, attempting to prevent the bad future of Kouki Uchiyama becoming the nucleus of another bad harem anime.
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>>145165896
It hinted at a bigger story but because of that, the whole episode barely had its own.
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>>145165962
And by Saekano, I mean Saikano.

I really need to read my posts before I hit submit.
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>>145164286
The evil menace known as moe.
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>>145162013
Man, her design was so generic.
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The pandora was a metaphor for the show.

Poetic.
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>Kite
>Mezzo Forte
>Canaan
>Gunslinger Girls
>Gunsmith Cats
>Noir
>Phantom
>Madlax
> El Cazador de la Bruja

How was THIS going to save anime from moe?
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Honestly even if this didn't turn out well I appreciate the attempt.
Kickstarter anime is the closest we'll be getting to a chance at something like the OVAs of the past in the current market.
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QUALITY
Memes aside, it was decent. It could have been better, but I'm just going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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>>145158638
>>145158895
>QUALITY everywhere
>nowhere near justifiable quality for a budget of $900K and 3.5 years of production time
>more of a pilot than a fully realized OVA, which is what they should have aimed for
>HURR Y-YOU'RE JUST CONTRARIAN
Fuck off back to Rebbit, shills.
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Devil's Legacy revival when?
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They probably spent more on the bonuses than the episode itself
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>>145167637
by bonuses, you mean going on vacation, right?
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Will drop pods ever stop being cool?

Also, what would it take for Anthea to not have been crushed when it landed?
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>>145164107
Of course.
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>>145165372
>it's mostly CGI being retraced
OK, I'm not gonna say UTD was perfect, but this is just plain false.
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>>145167419
When the 9 remaining fathers off themselves.
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>2016
>Buying CC in .380, ever

Would not invite shooting.

Well, it's not like she could come if she wanted too. ;_;
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Wait, is this in English?
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>>145168625
It has Japanese voices for the Japanese characters and English voices for the American characters.
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>>145167775
a guy skydiving without parachute while trying to maintain max air friction needs a to be cushioned down by a net for like 5 stories to be safe and sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgkhAysnRNY

Here, they tried to neglect as much air friction as possible, traveling past the speed of sound, not detaching herself from the speeding pod weighing several tons, basically, magic is required
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>>145158638
No.

It was pretty bad.
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>>145159301
the artstyle could have been better
also the plot is messed up
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>>145159273
> initial characters irrelevant
Ga-Rei 0 did the same. The later protagonists come out of the nowhere at the end of the first ep.
> not a great "pilot episode"
As pilot episode works fine as everything could be explained later on. I actually prefer it than being given a dry explanation at the beginning. As stand alone ova though it fails.
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Why aren't the well-seeded torrents on nyaa downloading? I've waited for 30 minutes and the progress is still 0 with over a 100 seeds and only a few other leech.
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I did like how the animated people being blown away during explosions.

>>145168913
Figures, the pod deploys air brakes, but I doubt they do anything to safely drop the speed low enough.
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Jesus there are a lot of fags in this thread that don't understand how financing a large project works. The budget for the actual episode itself was likely only 150 to 200k. Maybe a bit more but not too likely. There was a lot of shit from the kickstarter they had to fulfill.

The episode was pretty decent for what it was aiming to do in the time it had. The animation wasn't great but it wasn't terrible. Overall I'd say it's 7/10.
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Is he daijobu?
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So a TV series guaranteed ?
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>>145170731
And where did you get that idea?
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Should have put a

>No Americans were harmed in the making of this anime

during the credits for max bantz.

>>145170731
I doubt it.
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>>145168499
see
>>145165877
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>>145169926
They broke it down themselves on their kickstarter page. They expected to pay about 230k towards actual production iirc. So slightly more than the average episode of an anime. The real issue is that they had much much longer to work on this compared to the average episode of a tv series and nothing really competing for resources. Yet " average" was all they could manage.
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This man is not your friend. He fights for terrorising little girls to do his bidding.
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>>145159225
There are 12-13 episode TV anime that look better with 1/4 of the budget. There's a reason people like this don't get to do pet projects with actual studios and have to beg for crowdfunding.
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>we are tired of the otaku pandering that has infested the beautiful world of anime
>let us go back to the good ol days with an anime inspired by the likes of AKIRA and EVA and GitS
>introduce a loli moeblob immediately
Really makes you think
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>>145171719
>introduce a loli moeblob
>kill her off 3/4 of the episode
you forgot this part anon
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>>145171719
The best part is Akira, Evangelion, and GitS are successful because of otaku money. Anyone using the phrase "otaku pandering" as a critique is oblivious to what the anime industry was founded on and what has kept it alive for 40+ years.
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>I fucked your waifu
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Post sfw nipples.
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>>145165877
I don't see any cgi other than the vehicles
what did you smoke? I need some of those badly
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>school setting
>not!Eva
>"main character" only appears at the end
>meh art
It was disappointing desu
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>>145171942
Are you illiterate?
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I thought it was your average, generic chuuni premise. The direction and animation wasn't particularly impressive. There were just lots of SPLOSIONS and ACTUAL INTELLIGIBLE ENGLISH IN MY JAPANIMATION?

Of course their kickstarter implied they were directly marketing/targeting the entry-level western audience so it's not terribly surprising. Only Yamakan can save anime.
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I hope it gets a series.
Still 100 times better than all the LN trash.
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I kind of want to cum on her face.
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>>145171888
Here's some Anthea.
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>>145158638
No, it was average. Not shit, but not 'pretty good'. As far as the creative team goes, they've done better.
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>>145172753
>Only her face
Anon, you can do better than that.
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>>145159382
No, the premise was easy to understand because it's no different from other shows with similar premises.
>fight monsters who were humans
>humans fighting them use the same power as the monsters, hence the vicious circle
>multiple parties with their own agenda

Once you've seen enough of these kind of shows, you can get a sense of the general story progress or themes. That's not because UTD is good at establishing the premise, that's just them doing the same thing as others have done. It's like watching a Hollywood action movie and you see a guy taking out a photo or having a resignation letter on his table. You don't need further elaboration or exposition to tell you he's going to die. No need for info dump because other shows have done them for you.

Again, I'm not saying UTD is bad because it's generic. Rather, I'm saying that you're overselling what it's doing.
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>>145167343

this desu senpai
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>>145169506
>Ga-Rei 0
They did it better than UTD though.
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>>145171164
Extra time spent with the same amount of budget does not mean a better end product. Besides we don't know exactly what the workload was at the studio and there might not have even had extra time considering they have other projects.

Yes the quality isn't a typical ova quality but it's far from bad. It's acceptable.
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>>145158638
>actually pretty good?
It wasn't though, just as mundane as anything seasonal
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At least we have the original teaser trailer. I still watch it from time to time.
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>>145175704
Watched it again after so long and it's ridiculous how it looks so much better than what we actually got. At this point, people might as well just watch Canaan if they wanted a similar flavor to that teaser trailer.
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He knows.

>>145175929
Anon, please. Canaan was mediocre as well.
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>>145158638
It was pretty shit until blondie came in and brought it up to par.
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>>145176499
Didn't say it was better, rather it's sad that Canaan basically offers much of the same (with more eps) even without crowdfunding like UTD.
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>>145176863
It's sad that Canaan looks favorable compared to this.
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Nice soldier man gets shot in the face for this troubles.

Suffering.
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>>145158638
>>145158895
Not even MALtards liked this. Give it a rest already, you shills.
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>>145159008
No, it will be the next Guilty Crown.
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>>145160167
You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>145160604
Stop parroting that crap for fuck's sake.
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You will never cusp those titties.

The biggest travesty.
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Just finished it, I didn't have particular expectation because I didn't follow the kickstarter thing and didn't know about it but it was really enjoyable.
I would watch a full series about it
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>all those shitty gray colors
>it's not TV
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>>145162460
We don't know what the Flowers organizations true purpose at this time. I don't think they are pure evil at this point, I would say they are rogue group who wants come out on top.
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>>145179491
>Kidnap children
>Creates super soldiers out of them, who become monsters eventually
>Forces them to do their bidding
>Holds their family hostages under threat of murder
>Japan and America hold them in bad regard
>Have no problem in opposing and killing American soldiers trying to contain said monsters

They're baddies, which is interesting that we're following their point of view.
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>>145158638
>can we agree that this was actually pretty good?
No we can't.
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>>145161336
>How did people like this OVA?
Buyers remorse, I would say.
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>>145179984

Its too early to tell. It could be an evangelion situation where its the good guys doing bad things for a good cause. They might not even be doing as much bad things as we think they are.

>>145181738
>>145182117
>more shitposting.

If your that unhappy about it just fuck off. Standing around screaming a bunch of nonsense does nothing.
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>>145182358
>stop disliking things I like
Go to reddit if you only want to see posts that agree with you.
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>>145182722
Nice meme guy. its not that they disagree its that the posts present literally NOTHING to a conversation. Its like trying to talk to someone about something while a bunch of asshats just jump around flinging their own shit everywhere. I guess that is 4chan in a nutshell though.
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Are you winning, son?

>>145182358
They're still bad guys, Jim.

What don't you understand.

Also harden the fuck up. I found some enjoyment out of this show, but it doesn't hide the fact it's mediocre, especially for the amount of effort expected out of it.
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>>145178180
They should have unraveled both of her tits for good measure. They already put one out so why not just rip off the rest of her top?
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