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Thoughts about this as a spinoff of GuP? How would it work? What would be the story? What characters would there be?
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Boys in a boys only academy find dilapidated planes and upgrade them to take part in whatever the fuck the dogfighting thing is called. Their struggle is to get their sport recognized as something official and respectable otherwise they will get their planes taken away and shredded and their club disbanded. OVA crossover with GuP.
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>>145102016
>p51 Mustang
Patrician taste in aircraft my friend
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>>145102016
>Boys
Nope
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Fuck off, faggot.

>>145104531
This.
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>>145102016
Can love bloom?
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>>145104531
>>145104590
Well the girls already have their tanks.
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>>145104673
>girl bomber crews and male pilots
Yes
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>>145104868
So what?
Girls = good,
Boys = bad
Don't you want more good things?
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It can work if the boys are cute.
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>>145104673
why would he escort that plane? I think It's more dishonorable to firebomb cities with civilians that to shoot down a damage bomber
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>>145104673
Kuromorimine shits fuck off
t. Saunders

>>145104936
>not wanting a Battle of Britain style anime
>not wanting fighter bros being bros
Just because there are boys doesn't mean it's gay. Hell tanker girls can make appearances too.
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>>145105071
>Just because there are boys doesn't mean it's gay
Sure thing, buddy
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>>145105118
I guess GuP is gay because it has guys in it then
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You can't gay up my sexy planes with boys.
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>>145104936
Why does everyone have to have a lesbian fetish like you?
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>>145105071
>Saunders
Kay ain't got shit on this level of freedom
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>>145105186
Gee I wonder who piloted those planes in real life
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>>145104868
And why would it had to be related to GuP in any way?
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>>145105272
>He hasn't read THAT doujin
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>>145105272
>I didn't read the OP
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>>145105187
I don't even have one.
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>>145105229

Men, not a bunch of anime fags.
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>>145105157
No, it's gay because the girls are lesbians. Not that that is a bad thing.
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>>145105400
>the girls who talk about getting boyfriends
Hmmmm, what did anon mean by this?
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>>145104531
What are you, some kind of faggot?
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>>145105472
And how many of them did that?
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>>145105394
>He'd rather watch men than cute boys
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>>145105341
And why would it HAVE TO BE RELATED TO GUP in the first place.

>>145105003
So you just want Boku no Pilot after all.
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>>145105010
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Brown_and_Franz_Stigler_incident
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>>145102016

I would much rather there be a crew of traps competing in GuP, terrified that someone will discover their secret.

Their tank would be a M10 Panther...
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>>145105599
Because in the GuPverse, it is alluded to that while girls have senshado, the boys fly planes.
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>>145105834
>not guys getting sick of not being allowed to be tankers and decide to make their own sporting league with planes
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>>145106305
But Saori could find her husbando in the traps.
One trap could be implied to become nishizumi property too.
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>>145102016
Brief glimpses into the lives of the pilots, each episode centering around a different pilot or squadron. Just a simple arc for each episode based on an event in the character's lives. The episodes end with the characters going back to their daily lives in the war and continuing on. Maybe include an episode on the mechanics and designers.

There's plenty of good stories from random pilots. Try to stay away from aces since anyone interested is going to know everything that will happen anyways. There's things like a P-40 landing with more than half a wing missing.

Don't force emotional garbage into it or some dumb theme that detracts from the stories. Don't force cute boys into it, just leave it as a contrast and standalone.

Alternatively go ahead and make cute fighter pilots doing cute things and stray as far away from from the real stories as possible to avoid being cringey. Just keep it light hearted and use realism as more of an undertone. The butt of the joke can be the fact that some of these things actually happen.
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>>145108105
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>>145106383
>not the tank crew finding a downed ace and nursing him as him and Saori get closer
>not Saori then being swept off her feet in a whirlwind romance with the dashing fighter pilot
>not the new couple coordinating the tanks and planes together to crush the other schools
Do you even romance?
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>>145103013
The main boys fly a mishmash of planes just like the girls from GuP. Or they go all British.
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>>145102016
>Boys
No.
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>>145108328
I can imagine them being given the older stuff like Wildcats, Zeroes, Hurricanes, and all that jazz.
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>>145102016
>Shotas on planes

Fund it
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>planery is less popular than senshado because the amount of accident can happen
>very few school still practice it
>start with boys in kuromorimine boys high school convincing MEXT or whatever to reinvigorate the sport
>setup flight tourney and what not
>gets funding for 5 planes
>4 fighters and a bomber
>CARBOOOOOOOOOOON COATING the planes
The rest of the series are battles between schools and other school taking an interest in it.
Bonus for OVA : One of the boys goes for Saori
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>>145109842
I'd pay so much money for this
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>>145102016
>Not posting best plane
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>>145110473
>best plane
>got shot down the most
Wehraboo pls go
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>>145110655
>P51
>still uses .50 rounds late in the war
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>>145110988
The idea is to weigh down the plane with lead so it crashes before it can land. The holes also increase drag.
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>>145110988
>killed 5,000 air targets and 4,000 ground targets in Europe alone with a 11:1 or 19:1 (depending on who you ask) k/d ratio
I think it's safe to assume that the .50 cals were good enough
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>the Chihatan plane team gets rekt every time unless it's a surprise attack
>Saunders eternally salty
>despite this they are still better than the tank team
Make it happen
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>>145102016
We've been over this before. It should be a imouto/oniichan spinoff tn the GuP setting featuring a Type 3 Ku-Ro/Mitsubishi Ki-21 combo
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Why was Strike Witches such a disappointment?
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>>145111177
>Implying that multiple .50 shells are better than a 30mm shells

A 30mm shell will rip planes and tanks to shreds. Also those numbers are full of propaganda
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>>145111286
I'd watch the shit out of that spin-off.
Final battle vs Azul Division, they canonically have a Verdeja, a tank whose fucking main gun is AA-capable; final battle lasts all of five seconds; last episode's ED is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSA_sWGM44
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>>145110655
The Bf109 was the most successful aircraft in WW2.
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>>145111453
Whatever you say Wehraboo
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>>145111595
Whatever you say, Americuck.
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>>145111459
>spoilered text
Can be better. That'd be first battle. Last episode's final battle, they try again - just like GuP with the tank drifting attacks. Last battle is set right after GuP movie, and is against Oarai Team. Panzer IV is still not repaired, so Maho lend-leases Miho her old 217 Tiger (Otto Carius'). ED Yaketty Sax
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>Pistons
>Not glorious jets

<<You're not gonna believe this, Jean-Louis! All of them are massive faggots!>>
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>>145111853
Not the guy you're talking to, but the US are infinitely worse than any European country when it comes to racial issues.
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>>145111964
>implying
Come back when the Eurocucks don't average one terrorist attack a day
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>>145111853
>be an Americuck
>go outside
>get shot by a sniper
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>>145111908
>implying there will ever be large scale jet dogfights like there were pistonfighter dogfights in WWII
>implying jets are half as exciting as pistonfighters
They just go fast. That's literally it. BVR and drones are a cancer on modern air combat. Vietnam was the last time we will ever see a good old fashioned dogfight.
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>>145112143
Your post is so retarded that my brain hurts from reading it.
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>>145112287
>implying it's not true
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>>145112423
>implying it is
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>>145112371
Germany actually abandoned these sorts of drugs earlier than other nations. They experimented with meth for pilots and tank crews, but the Nazi health minister, Leonardo Conti held the opinion that its addictive features were detrimental to combat performance. They stopped generally issuing it between 1940 - 1941.
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>>145112690
>generally
key word here, you realize
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>>145112721
Because you can't rule out that they didn't hand it to special ops. The point is that you could only get it with a recipe after 1941 and the troops weren't generally issued this sort of thing any more.
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>>145112475
It is.

Enjoy your failed state with third world crime rates.
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>>145112902
t. Pierre shitposting on 4chan while listening to his mom getting banged by a """refugee""" and people running and screaming in terror as another """""refugee""""" acquaints them with his """""""peaceful""""""" """"""""""culture""""""""""
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>>145102016
can't we just have a seinen anime about ww2 aces?
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>>145111964
>Believing the overblown media you see on the internet
Nigga, for a group of people comprised of multiple races, we're probably more harmonious than any other country on the planet that would dare to have as many races as we do.
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>>145113041
t. Billy Bob shitposting on 4chan while people are getting shot right in front of his house that was built from balsa wood and paper; luckily, the police is going to arrive soon to shoot some more people. "God bless America", he thinks to himself, while masturbating his tiny, circumcised penis, thinking of large Black men having sex with his sister
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>>145113344
>a group of people comprised of multiple races
A fitting description of the American """""nation""""".
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>thread about boys in planes devolves into an /int/ thread
wew
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>>145113430
Don't project too much Hans. This is sounding more like a G*rman living in a modern day G*rman """city"""
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>>145113521
Quick, post favorite planes.
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>>145113479
And we're still better than you Eurocucks in every way
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>>145113649
You've been, THUDNERSTRUCK!
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>>145113708
*thunderstruck
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>>145113665
With your great American virtues, like multiculturalism and race mixing, amirite?
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>>145113618
People in Europe know how to build houses, they don't circumcise and they don't have cuckolding fetishes on an American scale either, so you're definitely wrong there.

The point remains: the US already are where Europe 'might' end up, if they follow the course they're on right now.

All things which Europeans are afraid of losing, such as national homogeneity, are what the US have never possessed in the first place.
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Boy all this plane talk sure is fun
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If something like this were made, Jap saltyness would ensure that America is the cheating school again
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>>145117180
Doubtful, most people in the Japanese /k/ community had already overcome the invincible Zero and ultimate secret weapons in development myths

In recent years, it's the /k/ community outside Japan rather like to exaggerate specs of IJN/IJA fighters in the late stage of the war and fighters in development.
For example, they often mixed the specs given base on expectations of IJN/IJA officers and specs recorded base on the fighters actual performances together

So if an anime like this were made, the Japs may praise their opponent but at the same time insist they still have fighters can put up a fight
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>>145102016
This shit would be gangster as fuck. We really need some proper fucking men to take the centerpiece of the story for once. I can already imagine stuff like the bomber team working together to improve their teamwork towards the end of the story, or mechanics palling around at the airfield. Cute girls doing cute things is fun, but cool bros doing bro things needs to happen, too.
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>>145117180
I thought the 'cheating' was just a reference to superior american decryption methods
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>>145119508
I guess you can interpet it as that too
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Planes are pretty gay. Boys should be doing many stuff.
I want an anime about boys forming a cheerleading squad to help their favorite sensha-do team train and win.
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>>145119988
>Planes are pretty gay
Get out. Now.
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I still want helicopters. But they're not "romantic" enough, I guess.
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>>145120946
who said that shit
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>>145120946
Helicopters kill things on the ground. They don't really "duel".
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>>145111595
Wehraboos are not synonymous with Nazi sympathizers
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>>145121373
Planes kill things on the ground. They don't really "duel".
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>>145121485
But they also kill things in the sky. Helicopters don't.
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>>145121485
But that's wrong. Fighter planes kill other fighter planes.
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>>145121485
>What is an air superiority fighter
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>>145120946
>helicopters
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>>145102016
Haru is an unmotivated pilot who flies nothing but boatplanes endlessly, then landing in the ocean and waiting for pickup.

Mako is the kind fuel plane pilot who goes to pick up his friend Haru, but has a phobia of rough weather from his childhood trauma.

Nagi is their enthusiastic club junior who wants them to start a high school club.

Rinbo is their childhood friend who returned from Australia after attending a professional camp. His rivalry with Haru is the catalyst for Haru to start the club so they can have a proper showdown.
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>>145120946
>helicopters
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>>145121373
HAHA GET FUCKED

There are a total of one (1) recorded events of helicopter vs helicopter combat

"This war also saw the only confirmed air-to-air helicopter battles in history of warfare with the Iraqi Mi-25s flying against Iranian AH-1 SuperCobra on numerous occasions. The first instance of these helicopter "dogfights" happened when on the starting day of the war (22 September 1980), two Iranian SuperCobras crept up on two Mi-25s and hit them with TOW wire-guided antitank missiles. One Mi-25 went down immediately, the other was badly damaged and crashed before reaching base. The Iranians pulled off a repeat performance on 24 April 1981, destroying two Mi-25s without incurring losses to themselves. According to some unclassified documents, Iranian pilots achieved a 10 to 1 kill ratio over the Iraqi helicopter pilots during these engagements and even engaged Iraqi fixed wing aircraft."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War

get

fucking

swagged

on
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>>145112690

Yea completely wrong. Nazi Germany never stopped issuing meth.

The reason that amphetamines were disappearing from the civilian world is because they needed more of the stuff for the military. Supply could not keep up with demand so they reserved the production they have for military use.

Up until the end, the troops, and especially pilots and tankers, had easy access to amphetamines.

Mind you that's not ripping so much on the Nazis specifically, everyone issued amphetamines to the pilots, because they needed to be on top for the entire flight. On the ground, the Allies had extremely tight control on substances. Also with control of Africa, South America, and India, the Western Allies could afford to issue tea and coffee to the ground troops in large amounts.
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>>145105707

>After four years of searching vainly for U.S. and West German Air Force records that might shed some light on who the other pilot was, Brown hadn't come up with much. He then wrote a letter to a combat pilot association newsletter. A few months later, Brown received a letter from Stigler, who was living in Canada. "I was the one", it said. When they spoke on the phone, Stigler described his plane, the escort and salute confirming everything Brown needed to hear to know he was the German fighter pilot involved in the incident.

>Between 1990 and 2008, Charlie Brown and Franz Stigler became close friends and remained so until their deaths within several months of each other in 2008.
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>>145120946
>WWII helicopters
Really makes you think
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>>145122009

Iran doesn't operate SuperCobras.

So nice source you got there.

Anyhow, what if they just made Flight High School into an anime? SOL of cute plane girls doing cute plane things.

Some of the characters could use re-designs, but I think it has good potential.
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>>145122009
>There are a total of one (1) recorded events of helicopter vs helicopter combat
Opposed to the countless recorded events of fighter aircraft vs fighter aircraft encounters - because that's what fighters are good for?

The point remains: helicopters don't serve the purpose of attacking things in the air. They're not good at it and you have already planes to do that job. Helicopters come in when the planes are done with their job.
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>>145122205
There's already one plane anthropomorphism-ish anime in the world, so any potential studios might think it'd be a pretty ballsy to try and pull that off.
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>>145122009
The Iran-Iraq war was fucking brutal. That kind of shit could only happen in a war like that.

>>145122205
I think he meant the AH-1J, which was exported to Iran prior to the revolution in 79.
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How about something like Chrome Shelled Regios but with piston fighter pilots instead of whatever they fuck they used in Regios.
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>>145122205
It's pretty much the plane version of KanColle so I think it'd do pretty well.
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>>145121672
I have more faith in a successful autorotation in a helicopter than a successful crash landing in an airplane in case of an engine failure. Though I'll admit I'm biased because I love helicopters and I've actually flown one.
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>>145122353
So basically the Pacific War but with moving cities instead of carriers and fighting kaiju instead of Japs and set in a post apoclypse instead of the 1940s. I can dig it.
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>>145121680
I'd watch this
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>>145121680
>Australia
He better fly a Boomerang and spend his free time shitposting
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>>145104868
Boys should be anti-tank squads constantly bullying the girls
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>>145121766
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>>145121680
Rei is the talented underclassman they scouted, but he is a narcissist who only cares about looking cool but sucks at everything except non-standard designs like the Shinden
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>>145112864
My point was that soldiers kept getting their hands on the stuff
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>>145122009
>engaged fixed wing aircraft.
Bugger me if I remember the source, but I distinctly remember having read on a book of an attack helicopter pilot who was jumped by a fighter, but the radar-guided missile was fooled by the radar echo of the rotor, and when turning towards the threat (standard maneuver) managed to nab the fighter with its own gun. Anyone knows the source of that?
I know, special snowflake case. Much like >>145111900
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We already have The Sky Crawlers
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>>145127961
There's The Pilot's Love Song too.

Though that's got icky girl pilots.
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>>145130169
Also NINA VIENTO!
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>>145130169
that one is not all that good
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>>145131386
I blame NINA VIENTO!
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>>145105394
So what about GuP?
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>dogfighting teaches chivalry and honor or some shit
>more dangerous than shenshado
>pilots get all the bitches
>time in between matches is about bros being bros or romance or some shit

Do it
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>>145127943
Dunno, but there's this story about a helicopter shooting down an airplane.

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol52no2/iac/an-air-combat-first.html
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>>145121680
So it's Free!! but with planes?
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>>145111410
Because

Lesbians
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>>145132233
That one doesn't count - that was a crewmen firing a $K-47 from the door at two fucking biplanes in what counts as "wacky episode" rather than actual "normal" combat situation.
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>>145131430
You seem to be quite fixated
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Seems like Nogami also nogami'ed some card games
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>>145102016
>How would it work?
Carbon coating on the cockpit only, with a parachute in the cockpit block, and a cockpit ejection system installed in the plane. The cockpits are fitted with an SOS beacon.

Each match would be dogfighting and shit, and the planes would be shot to shreds, with the cockpits surviving and parachuting to safety.
This made the sport very costly, since they needed to basically get new planes entirely if they were shot down.

>What would be the story?
A boys school is considering to stop the sport entirely because of its costs on top of them not getting a lot of results in it. The students are trying for a good result in what is probably their last entry into the national tournament, hoping to persuade the school to not stop the sport.

>What characters would there be?
MC is a Nishizumi from the male side of the family that does the sport, he didn't make it into the boys' school equivalent of Kuromorimine because he wasn't good enough at it, and ended up enrolling in the boys' school in question.


During one of their matches over the sea, a storm came in and they had to fly in the storm, regardless, the match went on, and MC was shot down. The team went on to win the match, but after landing in the rough winds, everyone starts to worry as the storm was getting too severe for rescue teams to go in. Episode ends with them praying that MC makes it out alive.
Next episode has the MC's cockpit block picked up by Ooarai's school carrier, which led to MC meeting his cousin, Miho, when he was touring the carrier while waiting for a plane back to his school.
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