D.Gray-man

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shes pretty cute

What is even going on with this series anymore?

I wonder if the flash back of alma and kanda will be wrapped up in one episode?

>>145064965
homolust

>>145064923
That cut out shirt <3
Episode was good. Looking forward to the flashback arc.

>>145064965
Exorcists are fucked and only a miracle can tip the scales in their favor, and I don't even know if that's desirable.

>>145064965
with what? currently in the manga or the anime? cause it explains this Alma thing. As for the manga, I really think next chapter will wrap up the Search for AW arc. feels like he's going to that house with the black timcampy

>>145065097
He'll have a talk with the 14th and then their going to kill that parasite Noah together. Callin it.

>>145065175
>going to kill that parasite Noah together
saving lavi arc confirmed

>>145065213
If bookmans at the "House" so is lavi. The big lavi arc is coming m8. He'll get crystal update and kick some serious ass.

I wanted to see road

>>145065381
she's literally in this episode quite a bit

>>145065345
>big lavi arc
>when we already got the Road fight shitfest
pls no

>>145065381
U did. She was there the whole episode m8.

>>145065448
>>145065499
not in doll form

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>>145065457
It'll happen. Whether u like it or not m8.

>>145065521
U can masturbate to her sexy brown legs next episode.

>>145065521
next episode then

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>>145065546
wew

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>>145065763
Nice m8. I literally can't imagine a proper DGM threat without lenaleefaging.

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Wisely is cutest Noah

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>>145065882
Kek. Now go back to /y/ m8.

i want to thigh fuck lenalee

and have her rub her butt on my lap

>>145064830
Wait, D.Gray-man is back? Holy shit, I stopped watching/reading years ago because the mangaka was ill or something and everyone thought he was going to die.

What the fuck.

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>>145066178
been back for a while now son

>>145066228
Did the animu pick up where the last one left off or is it entirely new?

>>145066332
anime picked up where it left off

Can someone explain the whole Milllenium Earl thing to me?

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>>145066678
which part

>>145066795
I recently started the manga because of the new anime and the whole thing with the souls of the dead getting trapped and using their bodies for weapons fits this pretty nicely.
Its sad as fuck though. I'll get out of the thread before I get spoiled.

>>145067081
>I'll get out of the thread before I get spoiled.
good idea, after all Hallow is continuing the story so it expects you already know everything

its a fun series so have fun watching/read

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>will have to watch Alma-suffer train animated

Do I have to watch the original D.Gray Man to enjoy this?

>>145068777
yes, if you want to understand

>>145068777
yeah its a sequel

>>145065882
There are too many Noah. And the powergap between them and the Order is cavernous.

If they aren't introduced one at a time monster-of-the-week-like I can't keep track of that shit.

>>145069162
They could destroy the order anytime the wanted to. But they keep them alive to use them for something... At least that's what bookman said.

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>>145068777
Jackpot trips is always right!

>>145065882
The Earl its handsome af

So how about that one Noah who is supposed to represent judgement. His only fucking job is to prevent traitors from ruining the family and he couldn't even manage that. What a useless piece of shit.

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>>145069898
Never thought of that but your right.

>>145069898
I assume he is pissed as fuck with Allen/Neah and he uses those bangs to cover his face from shame.

>>145064830
Is it me or is the manga art shit now. Like lenalee used to be super cute and now shes plain and generic looking.

>>145070098
He wouldn't properly remember messing up though, would he? I thought new incarnations of Noah, aside from Wisely, don't remember the exploits of their previous self.

However, I'd like to think Road and Wisely constantly shit on him for fucking up so badly.

What do you guys think Allen is?

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>>145071037
a cute

>>145071037
Innocence.

>>145064971
What a cutie. No wonder they left her alive. I would have done the same.

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>cursed eye just turns red
anyone else disappointed that Allen's eye isn't as cool as it once was?

>>145071752
>>145071037
He's a Bookman

>>145072381
>eye turning red
literally one of the biggest cliches of all time

>>145073036
agreed, it was very unique originally and now this boring red eye.

>>145064830
Is that the Babadook?

>>145074336
no its Alma

>>145064923
Underated cuteness

>>145069898
Not if the traitor is also an Earl of Millenium

>>145076542
This.
The Earl wants to be with the 14th and the rest of the Noahs have to obey him.

>>145076618
Except there are Noahs planning to kill him anyway already

>>145066795
I remember pushing the theory that the Earl and Mana were one and the same when the anime first started. But whenever I brought it up, people (rightfully at the time honestly) brought up the fact that the Earl couldn't be Mana because how would otherwise that scene with Allen turning his "father" into an Akuma due to the Earl tricking him work.

On one hand I feel really fucking vindicated right now, but on the other I'm confused as fuck as to how that makes sense still. So what do you guys think? Delusion on Allen's part, or what?

>>145071037
Apparently the real main villain though that seems more like a meme sprouted from speculation. Still doesn't seem like he was a very good guy compared to current Allen, considering that literally nobody has said anything about him that wasn't ominous.

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>>145076677
The Earl or at least Mana leaking through the Earl doesn't really give a shit about that.

>>145076772
>Delusion on Allen's part, or what?
We've only seen Allen flashing back to that scene. Timcanpy probably saw the whole thing and will reveal the truth dramatically to someone who isn't Allen at a critical point where Allen needs to be understood in order to be stopped.

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>>145071037
A dog.

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>>145076951
Nah.

>>145076951
Don't.remind.me

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>>145077002
Touché.

>>145071037
The real Earl of Millenium

>>145076951
So wait, Allen took his name from the dog because Mana kept mistaking him for the dog right? But doesn't Nea still refer to him as "Allen" even if he doesn't know anything about that?

So I assume that the dog was named after Past Allen or something? Because that seems way too convenient otherwise.

It's been close to 6 years since I last read DGM. Just how far along is the manga now compared to where the anime is that? I promised myself I wouldn't touch the manga until its ended but watching the anime is once again peeking my interest. I just hope Hoshino doesn't go on another hiatus, I don't think my sanity could take it.

Every DGM thread reminder that Past!Allen is responsible for:

[x] The previous Earl's disappearance

[x] Mana became the Earl

[x] Mana went batshit insane

[x] Kanda and Alma's love turned from pure to gay

[x] Lavi became a wormslut

[x] Katerina's death

[x] Timcanpy's death

[x] New anime's VA changes

[x] Bookman's promised death

[x] Apocryphos raping everyone

[x] This manga releases on quarterly schedule

>>145077183
Unless it was the dog that was Allen and Allen simply became a human due to the Innocence wanting to kill of the Noahs or some shit.

>>145077183
>Mana took a random stray puppy home
>asked Nea to name it
>Nea uses his friend's name because he is just that much of an asshole

>>145077183
Maybe, but that would be kind of weird for the name to pass from the original person, to a dog, to that same person who was then mistaken as the dog. Like you said, much too convenient.

I'm thinking Nea has just picked up on his new name from being in his head. Nea's been active in some form and lurking since Allen first used the piano in the Ark and has taken control a few times since. It's not unreasonable to assume that he may have been picking up things like Allen's name through however he may have been seeing things. Like, he obviously didn't see Allen himself since he didn't realize his ageing was fucked until the motel room, but I wouldn't be surprised if he could hear or perceive some things through Allen after being woken up that first time.

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>>145077002
>Allen is Oz
>past Allen is Jack

>>145077599
>>145077002
fuck off JackFag

>>145077214
Honestly not much, not only that but (going by the opening) the anime is actually adapting to the point the manga is now. Which is not a good idea since there is no good cut-off point here, since it is essentially a bunch of twists thrown at us at once.

And Hoshino isn't going on hiatus, however due to the poor condition she is in, we only get four chapters per year. Which is honestly the best we can ask for considered most other people would probably retire when in her situation. Still sucks though.

>>145077599
Fuck me that actually sounds like a pretty likely theory.

So guys, what do you think Past Allen's endgame is? From what I can tell he is playing with the side that wants to destroy the world, so I'm curious what his agenda is going to be.

Considering the recent chapters introduced the whole "helix of life" thing, and it seems like Nea learned about it through Past Allen, I'm willing to bet it has something to do with that.

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>>145077676
sorry but I'm a Leofag

i grew to dislike d gray man when it began to be blatantly homosexual and pandering to fujos

>>145077727
>what do you think Past Allen's endgame is?
it really depends on who he really is. if the theory of past allen is a bookman it'd make everything different.

>>145077727
Nea once said he is just as insane as Mana, so probably, Past!Allen was trying to eliminate himself

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>>145077796
>blatantly homosexual and pandering to fujos
eh Kanda and Alma I'll give you but I fail to see how Fujo's would be entertained by AllenxJohnny.

>>145077905
I honestly don't understand why Hoshino is suddenly pushing Johnny so much.

Actually scratch that, I do understand it, since he is supposed to be a representation of Allen's desire to still connect with humans and all that shit. But still, it's Johnny, and he will never be interesting.

Unless, I don't know, the Order kills himor something leading to Allen becoming the next Earl in retaliation. Then he would at least be useful I suppose.

>>145077727
>>145077895
>>145077820
Well about the whole "Helix of Life" thing, I'm assuming that Past Allen figured out how to use it to de-age himself or something? Possibly not knowing that it would erase his memories in the process.

Question is though how Allen got the parasitic innocence in his arm then. Since I highly doubt Nea would have trusted someone with innocence when he was on the run.

>>145078027
I have a feeling Johnny will be the one Allen kills to become the 14th. Johnny is super expendable and is a walking death flag imo. also if he takes the bullet so Lenalee doesn't have to I'll praise Johnny for it.

>>145077599
The 'Neah is Jack' and 'Past!Allen is the Heart of Innocence that decided to aid Neah on the crusade against the Earl' theory won't leave me.

>Apocryphos wants to merge with Allen (the greater part of the Innocence) and wants to prevent Neah throwing off the Innocence
>Allen's Innocence is pretty powerful and gives him great regenerative abilities
>The series constantly shitting on Allen, he's 'innocent'

I also think there's something up with the Innocence eg Apocryphos is a nasty, insidious piece of shit which could also account for Past!Allen being a shit in his past life. Also, the Earl in itself is a split Noah personality, perhaps the Innocence has it's own split personality and Allen is a splinter that has developed its own sentience and has a purer personality than the rest of it and the Innocence somehow brought about the 'disappearance' of the Earl into Mana and Nea and the schizoid personal of the current Millenium Earl is brought about by the split with Mana being an imperfect host.

>>145077820
If Past!Allen was the 'First Disciple'.

>>145078067
I thought it was Mana.

>>145078067
That was Mana he is gonna have to kill

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>>145077676
I'm a Rufusfag.
Jack is a shit.

>>145078067
>>145078097
I always assumed it would be Mana too, but I suppose that makes sense as well.

So who do you think is going to do the killing blow? The Order or the Noah? Though I guess the weird sentient Innocence could do it too.

Though if it were the Order, I'm afraid it is going to be a case of "he wasn't there for the whole thing, so he misunderstands and thinks the Order killed him when they really didn't" type of scenario. Getting kind of sick of those plots to be honest.

>>145078070
I would agree with that theory, except that Cross has mentioned a few times that Allen's current personality is largely a fabrication. His original personality was a lot more callous and rough around the edges until he adopted the "mask of mana".

Considering even when he was putting up the facade he showed a bit of a dark side every now and then, some aspect of Past Allen remained despite the apparent amnesia.

>>145078296
>So who do you think is going to do the killing blow?
Allen
He already killed Mana once

>>145078296
>So who do you think is going to do the killing blow?
I think Nea is going to kill Mana while Allen is watching and can do nothing.

>>145078296
PastAllen behaves a bit different from Red!Allen. While Red!Allen was an edgy brat, past!Allen talks like an old history professor

Someone please explain the whole Millenium Earl/Mana Neah/Allen thing to me, im lost as fuck with this manga.

>>145079546
Wish me luck finding that explanation pasta

>>145079546
The Millenium Earl/Adam is the first Noah persona of the person who used to be Mana (softer) and Neah (crueller) combined who seperated for some unknown reason (likely over his love for Katerina). For some unknown period of time Mana and Neah are raised thinking that they are brothers and Katerina is their mum. After an unknown incident, Katerina dies in front of the tree while it is shown that Mana is standing in front of her in Earl form (presumably the Earl Noah persona has reactivated in Mana). Neah then apparently tries to kill Mana probably over Katerina's death and Road is shown protecting Mana from Neah.

Neah then runs from the Noahs and finds himself unable to hide. He kills all the rest of the Noahs except for Road and Mana. He ends up in a situation where he is on the brink of death because of the Earl and makes a pact with Past!Allen to take over Allen's body and re-emerge at a later date.

Mana, meanwhile, suffers a mental breakdown and his Noah personality subsumes his human persona and the Earl blasts off his own face and maybe eats Neah's body (I'm not sure about this point.)

A mindfucked Mana then wanders around fearing the 'Earl' and ends up with Allen, the Allen the Dog and the Circus at some point and becomes Allen's father figure. Because his face is disguised by makeup we don't really figure that he's the Earl at this time. Presumably the Earl is latent at this point.

Eventually the Earl reactivates and Allen accidentally condemns Mana. We don't know if the Earl sent his own soul into the Akuma or part of his own soul or someone else's soul or Allen's own memories are fucked.

Fast forward and Nea re-emerges and claims that the Earl is Mana and even if he's not, he'll destroy him anyway. Whether he's just trying to claim Earlship or trying to spare Mana suffering we don't know.

>>145079546
>Allen is the host of the 14h Noah
>Cross and Timcampy are allies of the 14th
>14th tried to kill the Earl, killing (almost) all of the Noah at the time.
>Ran away with his brother, Mana, but Mana eventually had to kill Nea
>This is because Mana became the primary host of the Earl Noah memory.
>Neah and Mana were originally the Earl, but split in two (because of reasons)
>Mana went insane after killing Nea, blew away his face and aged up, becoming the man Allen recognized as "Mana" and his current human form
>Earl tossed away his identity as Mana, and thinks of him as a seperate person whom he hates at the moment
>Nea is back via Allen because Past!Allen promised to be his host.
>Allen is actually over 30 years old, and somehow reverted his own age/lost his memories. Used to be some sort of scientist guy.
>Apparently behind everything bad going on, or at least that's what some ominous comments about him have signaled.
>MC Allen isn't actually named Allen, he got that name from Mana's dog, who went nuts after the "Earl" killed everyone at their circus and mistook the MC (whose name was Red at the time) as his dog. Which is where he got the name "Allen"

That's all I could think of off the top of my head. Basically Nea wants to kill Mana (aka the Earl) in order to become the singular Earl again. Mana doesn't know what he's talking about because he went insane. And Allen may or may not be the source of everything in the story due to his past self's shenanigan's.

>>145068777
Or read the manga. Both are fine though. Skip the fillers in the early Dgrayman episodes

>>145079973
*
The Earl also sees Mana as a 'sin' and hates Mana. Whereas, either the Earl (wanting to be complete/sees Neah as a better host) or Mana (sentimentality) bleeding through wants to be together with Nea.

That or Mana is just quite a bit schizo whereas the other Noahs appear to be much more well adjusted and blend well as extensions of their human selves.

>>145079973
Ok i think i got it.

So basically, Mana is the half of the Millenium Earl who actually has awaken the Earl memories?

>>145079995
And here im lost as fuck again.

>>145080163
>So basically, Mana is the half of the Millenium Earl who actually has awaken the Earl memories?
That's my reading of it, yes.

>>145080163
Okay, it sounds really confusing if you just infodump it all at once, but I find that actually reading it through again, it isn't actually that much to take in.

It's probably due to how much time has passed since the last updates, but these twists aren't actually coming out of nowhere.

As this >>145066795
post shows there have been quite a few hints for some time now about this shit. Though a lot of it was admittedly from that Light Novel barely anyone has actually read.

>>145068777
Just read the manga

>>145080404
The light novel's also on Kami the last time I checked.

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Earl is my new husbando

>>145082239
Incoming mindbreak.

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Is Allen a virgin?

>>145083257
>Allen being a virgin
>with Nea slutting it out for his other half

>>145079973
>The Millenium Earl/Adam is the first Noah persona of the person who used to be Mana (softer) and Neah (crueller) combined who seperated for some unknown reason (likely over his love for Katerina). For some unknown period of time Mana and Neah are raised thinking that they are brothers and Katerina is their mum. After an unknown incident, Katerina dies in front of the tree while it is shown that Mana is standing in front of her in Earl form (presumably the Earl Noah persona has reactivated in Mana). Neah then apparently tries to kill Mana probably over Katerina's death and Road is shown protecting Mana from Neah.

It seems both Mana and Nea were fully aware of their role before Katerine's death since Mana, after Nea's death, understands his role as the Earl perfectly and Road were with them before the shit hit

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>>145083898
I don't really think that Mana and Nea were aware of their Noah heritage immediately. I mean Nea explicitly says that Katerina lied to them about them being brothers. Nea might have figured it out, but Mana's reaction suggests that he didn't figure out how fucked he was until it happened.

I think Katerina definitely knew that her life had a potential expiry date. However, it's pretty suspicious because Katerina and the original Earl look pretty calm together so maybe the Earl/Noah persona wasn't too bad then or they knew for certain that it would go latent for a while or he had some kinda deal going on with the innocence or it was only until he split into two that it went completely whacko crazy.

>>145084236
Yep, I still think they need sometime, but they probably already knew about that and grew accustomed to the fact sometimes before Mana's broke down

>>145084621
DGM's pretty big on past memories indeed.

>>145084236
>I think Katerina definitely knew that her life had a potential expiry date. However, it's pretty suspicious because Katerina and the original Earl look pretty calm together so maybe the Earl/Noah persona wasn't too bad then or they knew for certain that it would go latent for a while or he had some kinda deal going on with the innocence or it was only until he split into two that it went completely whacko crazy.

When I re-read, even Nea who is shown to be the most edgy actually still have a heart. He cares for Mana despite saying I'M GONNA KILL YA, he felt sad when Allen declares to be his enemy, he screamed his lungs out to warn the Black Order to run the fuck out of there even though they are the enemy that pursuing him

This fucker has inner conflicts

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What the fuck had Past!Allen done

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>what kind of redesign do you want?
>unjust the shit out of me
>say no more

>>145085590
Body donating for SCIENCE

How in the world can the noahs be defeated? Even if you kill them they will just reincanate again.

>>145085643
Alma arc makes me kek because it's the Earl and his boy band.

>>145079995
>Cross and Timcampy are allies of the 14th
I guess that's why Road is keeping Cross alive

>>145086714
Kill the Earl

>>145086714
Kill the Earl
We have Nea and Allen are capable of this
There is no hope in the Black order. The noahs keep going in and out as if that's their own house

>>145086714
>Nea kills poor Mana putting him out of his misery
>Nea becomes the new Earl
>Allen is so distraught over the death of Mana that he breaks free from Nea's control and defeats him
>Allen becomes the new Earl dualwielding the Heart of Innocence and Dark Matter and spends the rest of eternity in self-induced exile, alone and forever afraid that the Noah memories are going to overwhelm him

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>>145064830
>D.Gray-man
>pretty good.

>>145086913
>Allen becomes the new Earl dualwielding the Heart of Innocence and Dark Matter and spends the rest of eternity in self-induced exile, alone and forever afraid that the Noah memories are going to overwhelm him

>Allen then meets a girl in the wheat field under the sunset

>????

How did the Noahs learn about Alma Karma? They were all dead while the experiment was conducted right?

>>145087131
Wisely can hack into people brain, Road has her dream, and that were just those with known ability

Hoshino even confirms that Road knows everything

So uh what's the difference between Earl and Mana again? They're like the same psychos right?

>>145087131
Alma Karma got injected with Akuma egg cells. Then Wisely/Road went through Alma's memories

>>145087295
There are at least 3 Earls. The current batshit insane one is Mana

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>>145087295
Earl = noah memories
Mana = base human
I think 220 makes it clear that he's not just delusional.

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>>145087797
And this one.

>>145077905
Johnny is that masked Noah Mitora. Calling it now.

>>145088001
Damnit. That does work.

>>145088376
How exactly does that work?

>>145087797
Ah so then Earl has died at some point before Mana then? I thought all Noah dies when Earl dies?

>>145088376
1. Mitora is the science guy in charge of all the magic and technology. Johnny is a science guy.
2. The level 3 that evolved into level 4 only did so after trying to eat Johnny and spitting him out for some reason.
3. Why would hoshino focus on him? I think it's to set up a plottwist later. "I was right beside you the whole time, 14th"

The main three arguments i could think of.

>>145088576
Look above.

>>145088605
> all Noah dies when Earl dies
It's more like without the Earl, the Noahs would be really vulnerable against the Heart

What's D.Gray Man even about? Can someone give me a short summary?

>>145088845
>fat guy with bunny ears tries to destroy the world
>turns out he doesnt have bunny ears
sums it up pretty well i think

>>145088845
Niggas tries to destroy the world

>>145088845
19th century London has way more advanced technology than this 21st century.

>>145089057
Well, they have magic aiding them

>>145089057
And Chinese magicians work for the Pope

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>>145088916
>>145088983
>>145089057
Thanks my friends.

Have some lewd.

>>145064965
What was ever going on with this series

>>145090099
Poorly choreographed fights

>>145088693
Hoshino said the only reason Johnny was kept because he is a weakling that could help Exorcists to keep the remain of their humanity

>>145088693

I doubt it. There's enough plot to develop with the 14th, Mana, Allen & Cross. Johnny being a Noah would be wtf plothole that would clutter up the manga.

This series barely has the legs to finish it's big plots let alone add more at this stage

>>145088845
Typical shonen story that stands out only for the gothic style. And them Leenale tights