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Chika Gentou Gekiga: Shoujo Tsubaki

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Just watched Shojo Tsubaki.

Sickening to the point in which I gagged a couple times. The first ten minutes of this movie are so packed with human tragedy it makes Salo and A Serbian Film look mild in comparison, the imagery and themes so twisted it makes the Holy Mountain feel PG-13.

I always go into these movies with a morbid anticipation, like everybody else, but end up feeling empty and nauseous afterwards. Still, I always end up coming back for more, and I keep getting surprised at how dark it can get. Anime really is a diverse medium.
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>>144881973
I found A Serbian Film more effective, this one to me was mainly just ugly.
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>>144882925
Serbian Film is one of the funniest things I've ever watched, it's too over the top to be disturbing, something more subdued would have been much more effective.
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>>144881973
I'm watching this right now and i can't stop laughing, It's so overly edgy and melodramatic just for the sake of it.
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>>144882925
>>144884723
Shoujo Tsubaki was very different from Serbian Film, they are both shock films, but Tsubaki does it in a really bizarre, disgusting way, at least from my perspective. The Serbian Film was not only much less subtle, but also felt cleaner, and the characters hardly reach the level of misery and filth-groveling that Midori does. Sure, you see a baby getting fucked to death, but you don't see the corpse someone's mom's vagina getting eaten by rats.
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>>144887532
Not even a little bit phased? I guess i'm pretty soft.
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>>144888375
That's why I said Serbian Film was funny, the baby getting fucked to death was way too cheesy to be disturbed by it.
>NEWBORN PORN!
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>>144888446
The part when the dwarf gets really pissed was cool but i wasn't really shocked at all.
It's just too over the top and i'm too jaded to take this seriously,
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A Serbian Film is more Uziga Waita than Suehiro Maruo.
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>>144888459
That really is the problem with a Serbian Film.
I couldn't claim that someone wouldn't be disturbed by it, no, plenty are. It is a disturbing movie but if you are e.g. just a big horror head, not even a jaded person, it loses a lot of its effect for sure.
It exists only as a shock film, there really isn't much artistic aspiration there when you look deeper to it. That's what I felt anyway.
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>>144889014
More Rob Rombie than Alfred Hitchcock
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>>144888546
What else do you recommend anon? I've watched just about all the mainstream famous stuff, Cannibal Holocaust, Human Centipede, Jodorowsky, Eraser Head, etc. Anything good comes to mind?
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>>144889924
I don't really watch all that much shock horror stuff, I'm jaded to this kind of thing only because i grew up on horror movies.
That said i do recommend Genocyber, Angel Cop and Blood C simply because they have well animated and cool looking gore Blood C having the best animated gore out of all anime i watched.
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>>144890129
Thanks anon, time to get jaded.
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>>144889924
Tokyo Gore Police. Some scenes are golden.

And read more manga, stuff by Uziga Waita, Kazuo Umezu, Hino Hideshi, Suehiro Maruo, Hayami Jun, Shintaro Kago, Junji Ito, Juan Gotoh, Horihone Saizou, etc. Such manga rarely gets animated.
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>>144890357
You know, before this thread I hadn't even contemplated reading horror manga, but some of these panels look amazing enough to leave an impression withoug being animated.

Also, Kazuo Umezu looks like japan's Mr Rogers, no wonder he's a sick fuck.
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>>144890548
Umezu's stuff is great.
Juni Ito is a big name but I often find myself laughing to him more than being scared or disgusted. Worth checking out all the same.
Suehiro Maruo is absolutely worth the look.
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>>144890760
Where should I start With Suehiro? Ultra Gash Inferno sounds sick though.
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>>144881973
First, A Serbian Film is a bad movie.
Second, Shojou Tsubaki is not sickening at all compared to Salò.
How could anyone ever feel sick looking at some mild freak shit like that is beyond me.
>>144882925
>Maruo
>ugly
Are you retarded? Part of the poetic of Maruo is that he makes the most abominable things looks fascinating.
>>144889924
>I've watched just about all the mainstream famous stuff, Cannibal Holocaust, Human Centipede, Jodorowsky, Eraser Head
So you watched like 5 things? Top fucking kek.
What about all the mondo movies? If you don't feel sick watching those then you'll never feel sick unless you'll come across some snuff shit.
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>>144890967
Just read everything that is scanlated.
Ultra Gash Inferno's stories and Laughing Vampire are the best
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>>144890984
>A Serbian Film is a bad movie
It's not the best...

>Shojou Tsubaki is not sickening at all compared to Salò
Somehow I remember Salo didn't get to me as hard. Being honest I just have a softer spot for animation as well as fantasy themes, I had terrible fear of violent stop-motion animations, gorey anime, and the like when I was a kid.

This is why I think I love Berserk so much. If you read it, do you remember the troll arc? When the trolls go to villages, kill the men and kidnap the women to impregnate them? That cave was one of the best moments in Berserk. Also the insect kids raping and killing each other.
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I know the community was never huge to begin with, but there seems to be no one scanlating weird/guro/horror/mindfuck things anymore. Apart from the Kago/Ito/Uziga reposts it feels like its been years since I've seen something new. Henshin: Emergence was a nicely twisted bit of human tragedy, but as a horror fan I really do miss the schlocky gore and crazy weirdness.

Is this just because there aren't any mangaka publishing this kind of work anymore? Or is there still a niche group of authors that fail to get scanlated? Is it just time to suck it up and learn moon?
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>>144891906
Reiteration from above, but I still think early Berserk can be horrifying and twisted, plus gorey as hell. It's not Uzumaki, but we can't be very picky when there's not much getting translated.
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>>144891325
>>144890967
The Strange Tale of Panorama Island is gorgeous.
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>>144890984
>>144891900
How can you even be disturbed by Saló? Cannibal Holocaust and ST were a bit uncomfortable for me just because of the animals, but Saló is not disturbing at all. It's still a good film, though.
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>>144881973
Is this movie about rape culture?
No joke, when I watched it, it's kind of what I felt it was going for.
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>>144890760
>Juni Ito is a big name but I often find myself laughing to him more than being scared or disgusted. Worth checking out all the same.
Uzumaki was a fucking ride for me.
At a point I was scared by the father turning into a literal spiral, but then I was laughing my ass of at the hurricane air battles, then I felt sick looking at the two kids turn into snails (and then fuck)
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>that part with the snake

marquis de sade references man

im haunted by his works, i had to stop watching the movie at that part
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>>144894645
No, it's just an old movie set in old times.
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>>144895469
At like minute 9?
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>>144881973

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBZe-F52634
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>>144894188

Different strokes for different folks I guess, anon. The animals didn't do it for me in Cannibal Holocaust but I still can't finish watching Saló.
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