Jesus... did this hit way too close to home for anyone else?

yes

i'm as old as he was too

>>144838950
No not really, and I'm a 6+ year hikki neet .

>>144838950

>you'd rather not look into the mirror and stay in the same place forever

This is an opportunity, anon.

>>144838950
If this show hits too close to home you need to finish it to learn how to start moving your life along.

>>144841709
This. Finish it OP.

>>144841709
I'm planning to struggle through it, but it's really hard. I don't think I've experienced a more unlikeable MC.

>>144838950
No, because I've a STEM masters degree. I'm still a 2+ year neet but no hikki.

The only thing that hits close to home is feels anime like Clannad and Kimi Uso because they make me realize that I haven't felt any real emotions for the last four years. Only permanent monotony.

Its not even that good of a show. The first half is good but the show jumps the shark in the middle and the second half is absolute trash. It's boring and the characters stop acting like real people. The ending is garbage as well.

>>144838950
I know myself too well to ever be as bad as Satou. The first moment I feel uncomfortable I just leave the situation. He on the other hand sinks into manic depression and never stops to question his actual desires in life. If you already know what you want then something as ridiculous of not wanting to go to school become trivial.

>>144842441
>The first moment I feel uncomfortable I just leave the situation.
That's exactly how you get into his situation.

I should be grateful that I don't relate to this show at all.

>>144842441
Satou is incredibly avoidant, but he also has outbursts which alienates him more than a typical person who is feeling uncomfortable. If he feels like he's freaking out or being attacked, he runs away, which stands out more to people than if he was just quiet and reserved.

But my main issue with Satou is his absolute lack of drive. I know I'll never be as bad as Satou because even if I am depressed and avoidant, I still have goals and want to accomplish something even if it is small. Satou sets absolutely no goals for himself, and that leads to situations where he does absolutely nothing for days and days. I couldn't stand that and I usually have some project to work on at home.

Also, he's a completely messy person. I can't stand messes or clutter. I don't get how NEETs or hikis can be so dirty/messy. You have all the time in te world, you don't need to live in a garbage dump.

>>144842254
>STEM

I've noticed that a lot of NEETs seem to have STEM majors. What the fuck is happening?

>>144842816
Not him but I can't find a job that doesn't want 2+ years of experience and/or some kind of certification (that 2+ years of experience).

>>144842816
Crippling depression.

>>144842254
Wow the STEM major is a psychopath. What a suprise

if it hit close to home why wouldnt you watch it? it just your mind trying to tell you how much of a fuckwad you are

>>144842816
Lots of geeky people tend to gravitate towards STEM, also the job landscape is pretty shit, at least for engineering.

>>144843874
>psychopath
Rude. I just told you that I felt sad for the people in those stories. That's just the only times I've felt sad in the last four years.

>>144843978
being a psychopath doesn't mean you feel no empathy at all. Just less. That is psychopathic behavior, not to the farthest extreme, but it is.

>>144843882
People are just looking for shitty escapism genre media.

>>144843882
It's not a very comfortable feeling to watch a show with a completely unlikeable and shitty MC and then realize that the reason you really hate the MC is because he's you.

>>144844059
How do I distinguish psychopathy and ordinary depression?

>>144842816
Autism.

>>144844198
length

>>144838950
Nah, he's way better than me.

>>144842816
Indians taking all the CS jobs.

>>144842816
The job market for STEM isn't as good as they want you to believe but it keeps the dollars rolling into schools.


Also the LN is a lot better, the anime is happy go lucky lolsorandumbxd compared to it.

>>144842390
Agreed as fuck. It's like the author got fucking bored too so the ending felt rushed and forced.

>>144844637
That's because the anime is mostly based on the manga, which is absolute shit, specially when compared to the novel

>>>/r9k/

>>144845032
I thought the anime was mostly based on the LN, since the LN doesn't have the pyramid scheme plot.

>>144844527
This.

>>144845032
Nah the anime is almost entirely the manga, thye just cut the pyramid scheme arc and brought back the original ending and some of the rants/monologues.

>>144845766
Meant for
>>144845592

>>144845589
There are very few true hikis or NEETs on r9k. Most of the board is just memers who work shitty jobs while they go to school. There are a few true hikis who live at home or on welfare bucks, but I think their numbers are very low compared to all the fakers. The board culture there is really toxic too and everything devolves into a pity party rather quickly.


Is Satou canonically ugly? I think he's probably above average in terms of looks but it's hard to judge. He doesn't come across as hideously ugly, though he doesn't really stand out.

>>144842254
Are you me? I tear up easily to movies and shit but the last time I cried for something related to my life was some 10 years ago. An indifferent smile might as well be glued to me face these days.

Clannad made me cry like a bitch though. Satou wasn't even near it.

>>144846138
He just has average looks

>>144842120
I just found him funny a lot of times.

Plus, the anime version of him is rather vanilla compared to the manga or the novel.

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>>144846138
I agree. It was just for the blog thread (and posts).
>>Is Satou canonically ugly?
I see him pretty normal, at least when he shaves and takes care of his appearance. I think we could say this about the majority of people, though.

>>144846675
Betch, the manga version was even more vanilla with all the monologues they cut off

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>>144846453
Agreed.

His name is even supposed to be typical, like the japanese equivalent of John Smith.

>>144846405
Speaking of crying, I recall that scene where this fat guy whose sister got arrested was crying. He talked to Satou through the video game.

The crying sounded hilariously fake, and I remember that bothering me when I first saw the anime. I was watching it with subs.

>Nice kitchenware hallucinations
>Have enough connections to get weed in Japan (!)
>Somehow gets by without working
>Still gets more pussy than I
No anon, that did not hit anywhere close to home.
I had to work full time since coming of age even though I would prefer constantly degenerate through torrent of nips media.
But I'm getting there: now I work from home, getting fat thanks to slowed down metabolism and balding.
>Living the dream

>>144846935
Don't let yourself get fat. Work that shit off immediately.

>>144846935
Found the anime-only wannabe
>>>/r9k/

>>144846994
Why?
I also do: I used to gym so when it gets uncomfortable (>210lbs) I'm dropping it to the usual 180.
It takes about a month, but I can't motivate myself to hold the diet and exercise after that.
Giving up on dating has that effect.

How does MC not eat shit?
I mean eating shit and sleeping during daytime are easily top5 most pleasurable activities in hikki life.
Probably after fapping and good animu.
>>144847046
Good call.
I see that manga is completed.
Thanks for a reminder.

>There are people here who identify with Satou
I never got that, he seemed like a totally unlikable /r9k/ fag to me, especially about that whole end part where he needs a gf to solve all his problems

>>144838950
I know, us otaku right XD

>>144847613
Seems like you watched only the anime and even then missed the enite point and watched it as a lolsorandumexdee neet humor show

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>>144847613
>gf to solve all his problems
B-b-but GF w-w-ould s-solve all m-my p-problems, anon-kun...

>>144838950
>being pathetic

lmao

>>144847734
>The entire point
Which was what exactly? 'Waahh I'm a bad person and the world doesn't work nicely like how I want'? That was the basis of basically every character's complaints from what I saw.

>>144847826
Give me a minute, I need to go look for my fedora to tip it to you

>>144847613
I'm not trying to identify with him, I just see a lot of myself in him which is distressing. I don't want to be him at all. I don't want to identify with him in the least.

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>>144838950
I'm a nigger so yeah.

>>144847916
You could always try killing yourself.

>>144838950
Observe your inner refusal to accept this mirror graciously presented to you by Nips.
Stare in it long enough - and you will be entertained by the fact how pathetic you are.
Get on this level anon and a new world of degeneration without restraint will open to you.
Abandon all hope and dive in.

>>144838950
I'm still waiting for my Misaki.

>>144847892
Nah, I'm going to enjoy some dinner with my loving gf and watch some anime after that

>>144848038
Post pics of dakimakura you're going to have a dinner with.
We need someone lower than us to feel good about ourselves.
Be a bro and help us out.

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>>144848038
>>144847826

better to be the best version of yourself instead of being pathetic, tbqhfams

>>144847877
>The only person who can fix your problems is you
>Some girl will not come from on high and fix them for you

more or less

>>144847877
Satou suffered severe depression and criplling social anxiety, coupled with the crushing social pressure and crushed expectations that many people get arpund college age.

It's something that an sheltered underage kid or a normalfag being hapoy with being a society drone would never understand

>>144847950
That's not very nice, anon. What's the point of kicking a man while he's down? Does it make you feel better about yourself?

>>144848340
*another anon*
Yes, you didn't discovered that yet?
How did you survived up to this point?
This is the basis of society and economy: no one would buy Lexus or Chanel if he would not feel better about himself compared to the poorfags.
Socialism doesn't work, but this is what you get with capitalism.
Adjust or die.

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why don't they just see a psychiatrist?

>>144848296
Then that was a very poorly conveyed message.

>>144848324
He's a fictional character, not a person. He didn't "suffer" from anything you dolt. Even then neither of those things were written into his character particularly convincingly. At least not in the anime, though I doubt he's written much more masterfully in the light novel.

I feel like actual discussion about NHK is impossible.

>>144848564
If I could get a script for some amphetamines my life would improve exponentially.

>>144848340
Actually it's very nice. I'm giving you the most actionable and verifiable effective advice you are ever going to get. No other solution will ever be presented to you that will solve all your problems as easily, or as totally. You should be thankful.

>>144848630
It's already been discussed to death.

>>144848564
>Actually giving money to a paid friend/drug dealer who doesn't even have to give you what you are owed
Fuck that.

>>144848619
>Then that was a very poorly conveyed message.

I wouldn't say so. At the end, they pretty much state that they both have problems and that they are going to work on them themselves. Misaki thought that she could "save" Satou, but she ended up having problems of her own. In order to improve his situation, Satou had to take that initiative to get that job and get an income, he couldn't rely on Misaki because everyone has their own problems.

>>144848564
>have severe social anxiety to the point I cant function properly.
>can't even talk to a psychiatrist out of fear of dropping the spaghetti
The story of my life

>>144848724
You're missing the more important point

In Japan, and many other countries, seeing a psychiatrist is basically social suicide, even in the eyes of people close to you.

>>144848787
Well japan is a shite society, what else is new.

>>144848907
At least they don't have Muslims and blacks.

>>144848673
>verifiable
How often have you killed yourself? Maybe it gets worse after.

>>144848619
>>>144848296
>Then that was a very poorly conveyed message.
>>>144848324 (You)
>He's a fictional character, not a person. He didn't "suffer" from anything you dolt.
Lay off the fedora.

>Even then neither of those things were written into his character particularly convincingly. At least not in the anime, though I doubt he's written much more masterfully in the light novel.
I must admit it's not cobeyed very well in the anime, specially with all the lolsorandum manga filler getting in the way, but in the LN he makes pretty much clear that he every time he walks out the door he thinks every random person in the street recognizes him as that crazy hikki and there were several monolgues/rants about how the real world never marches your expectations and how ypu uusually end up with ypur dreams crushed, but sadly they were also cut in fabor of more attempts at "dark" humor

>>144842120

seems like you're a faggot. MC and his sidekick are hilarious as fuck

>>144848738
They state that they will only live if the other does, that's just mutual dependence. It's extremely likely both of them would have offed themselves eventually if they didn't have each other. Not to mention there's a lack of evidence for the fact that people can solve their own problems. Maybe, like, one of the shitty people they meet along the story actually makes even the least headway into solving their problems by the end.

Again it looks like there's a pretty weak case made for that to be the overall message.

>>144842816
Ministry here is wondering why the hell there are so many people with STEM degrees unemployed when there are so many free places in that field. They don't realize that they either want you to have at least 25 years experience at the age of 24, or they expect you to work for a minimal wage.
I finished my second year and I'm getting afraid I study in one of the hardest field to work for minimal wage.

>>144848968
The same could be said about living any second longer, since the same certainty applies to each side of the scale on any decision it's factored out of the equation.

>>144848724
They have have public healthcare in Japan. I doubt that you have to pay for the psychatrist. Not sure about the drugs. You propaby won't have to pay the full price at least.

>>144848907
Because attitudes towards mental health are so much better in Dumburgerstan..

As a severely depressed and anxious uneducated NEET with non-stop suicidal thoughts, this just seems to make me mildly happier for some reason.

>>144849197
Then why don't you kill yourself? The next second might be so horrible that it's better to die right now.

>>144849215
Yeah, it kind of is. You don't get shunned for getting your head shrunk at the very least. That's quite significant.

>>144849142
>that's just mutual dependence
I don't necessarily think you're wrong on this, but
>lack of evidence for the fact that people can solve their own problems
I think they were trying to make the point that it's important that you try, otherwise you'll end up as an unmotivated hikkineet. Satou was able to get a job when he was forced to try, anyways.

>>144849278
Because I'm still working up the guts and the funds necessary.

Nope, I was actually happy as a NEET now I'm a wage slave and I'm not happy at all.

>>144842816
You need connections and so called "social intelligence". Being an intelligent autist is great but the sociable guy who is bro with the higher ups is going to make a career.

>be fucked around by the NHS for 3 years
>Have only seen a psych once, and that was a 10 minute session to get a stamp on a letter to be sent elsewhere.
>get told I have to do the whole thing again.
Why even bother anymore.

>>144849347
There's plenty stuff in the device you're using right now to kill yourself. If it's a laptop you can break the battery and breath in the lithium. If it's a smartphone you can break the glass and slit your throat. If it's a PC you can open the power supply and electrocute yourself.

Do it. Do it now. The next second is approaching.

>>144849343
>I think they were trying to make the point that it's important that you try

Again I have to say if that's is the point it was not made very clear at all. In the end it really felt like there was no real point beyond the whole "life's a bitch and then you die so take it one daily struggle at a time". I mean, many times in the story when Satou was trying, perhaps for the wrong reasons, but trying all the same he got fucked over. Maybe the message might be "you have to try to do what society want's you to do and depend on yourself to do it", but that's even less clear (and fairly ironic considering the author is living as a NEET off of royalties).

>>144849415
Where do you live

want to meet up and be sad together

>>144849491
Yes, but all of those add pain to the equation. The living mammalian body is designed to avoid pain and death instinctively.

Besides, I don't want to die in this dingy rat infested hovel. I want to die somewhere pretty, and transportation and accommodation are surprisingly expensive.

>>144849589
If that involves going outside to meet a stranger, no.

>>144849276
This thread, or watching the show?

Knowing your not alone can be comforting.

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>>144849491
Edgy tryhards like you are disgusting. Please grow beyond a 15 year old's mentality.

>>144849589
That sounds like faggot shit, awful idea, you should be ashamed you even suggested it.

>>144849350
just get a gf

>>144849563
The reason he failed is because of his "sufferings" that you (I assume) derided in your earlier post >>144848619

This is where the narrative tension comes from. It's also worth mentioning that Satou's attempts at improving his life are half baked at best, and he was only successful when his only other option was to starve.

Misaki's character is the main avenue they use to express the point I talked about, so if you just aren't seeing it I'd take a look at her and her interactions with Satou.

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>>144842816
Been NEET for over a year doing temporary unpaid internships etc. The "2 years minimum experience" meme is so true. Once you get in and setup you'll be fine.

>>144848787
Only weak-minded White people go see psychiatrists/psychologist and believe that they're competent and reliable persons. To everyone else they just are Jewish crooks.

>>144850082
>The reason he failed is because of his "sufferings" t
How were those solved then? Certainly not because he just "tried" to get through them. Misaki was the catalyst for any positive change in that area. So once again he is dependent on her either directly or indirectly. How then does all of this lead to the point of "you have to help yourself"? Even if much of what she did also made his life worse, there's indications that both of them were getting worse regardless.

'>Satou's attempts at improving his life are half baked at best, and he was only successful when his only other option was to starve.
I see that, but my point was that there seems no link for most of the characters between trying to solve their problems and any outcome that would indicate that that is the right thing to do.

>they use to express the point I talked about,
You've lost me, which point is this referring to?

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I prefer the insane borderline Misaki of the manga desu

>>144846769
>I see him pretty normal
>I think we could say this about the majority of people, though.
That's kind of the definition of normal

>>144838950
This show put me down even further a couple years ago with how accurate it seemed to be for me but finishing it up proved I was right to live this way.

>>144838950
Yes and then I watched TTGL and became alpha

>>144842816
http://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-is-a-myth

>>144841709
If you can't seem to finish it because of how much you relate to him and not because you don't enjoy it, I'd really encourage you to finish it. It'll give you more perspective on what you don't like about your life and maybe you can do something about it.

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>>144850848

>>144850946
Figuratively who?

>>144850946
Isn't this meme self-defeating?

>>144851002
you

>>144851025
Woah, that's almost as deep as Eva

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>>144850946
>everyone that takes waifu meme seriously and NEET-lyfe as something positive

>>144851153
OH SHIT SON, AN MSPAINT COMIC!
You sure showed them.

>>144850589
>How were those solved then?

They weren't "solved" so much as Satou learned to live in spite of them, as most people must do eventually. He learned how to do this through his combined experiences in the show, especially the end when his income is cut off, which is why I keep bringing that up.

>Misaki was the catalyst for any positive change in that area.

Even though she may have inspired the chain of events that led to Satou's reformation, her goal throughout the show was to help satou using her "therapy" sessions. These therapy sessions failed in large part due to the fact that Misaki had lots of issues of her own, which is the "point" that I was referring to, that "Everybody has their own problems." I apologize if this was not clear. The fact that MIsaki happened to be the catalyst isn't too important, in a real life situation it could have been anything. I think Misaki was used in such a way for the sake of the narrative.

This all contributes to the theme of helping oneself in that Misaki failed to help Satou because she did not help herself first, and the both of them only have another shot at life through helping themselves, that being the ending scene.

>I see that, but my point was that there seems no link for most of the characters between trying to solve their problems and any outcome that would indicate that that is the right thing to do.

The anime wasn't too good about this, but I saw it as being conveyed by the fact that they only succeeded at anything once they tried to help themselves, Misaki by re enrolling in high school and Satou in college.

>>144850471
You're dead wrong. Seems like you're basing your opinion 100% on how psychiatrists are portrayed on western media

>"I'm afraid our time is up, but this was a good talk! Would you like to set up an appointment for tomorrow?"
>MC takes a pillow and moans as he angrily presses it over his face
>"hmm, I guess tomorrow's no good"

>>144850589
Misaki actions haven't brought a significant positive change within Satou. She has only supported his luxurious NEET life by bringing him food when his parents cut off his allowance. All she has done is made him dependent on him which backfired on her after he went out with Hitomi which in her eyes felt like betrayal despite the misunderstanding. To then put the final nail in the coffin of her rescue plan for Satou, when she stopped bringing him food he got a job to support himself. This made her completely irrelevant which drove her to suicide as she felt useless. This supports the theme that nobody, not even Misaki could save Satou. Satou's problem was entirely his environment and when that changed, he finally was encouraged to either change or die. This was message was shown through and through whenever Misaki tried to change Satou.

Nah. It bored me to hell. Couldn't even finish it.

>>144841709
Minus the part where someone comes into your life out of the blue on a mission to help you so you don't kill yourself

>>144849807
>not getting his point
The edgy guy is the anon you replied to.

>>144851319
>Satou learned to live in spite of them, as most people must do eventually. He learned how to do this through his combined experiences in the show,
OK, but then is that really relevant to the message "trying to fix yourself = success" if it's just something he'd learn to live with anyways what bearing does it have on his efforts?
>especially the end when his income is cut off, which is why I keep bringing that up.
I'm afraid I don't see the significance of this beyond being a "last chance" type situation

>The "point" that I was referring to, that "Everybody has their own problems."
Oh, okay, I'm not sure where that was mentioned but I do admit that was probably the single clearest point in the story.

>in a real life situation it could have been anything. I think Misaki was used in such a way for the sake of the narrative.
OK that's fair.

>The anime wasn't too good about this, but I saw it as being conveyed by the fact that they only succeeded at anything once they tried to help themselves,
I don't know anon, I think we will just have to agree to disagree on that point.

>>144851635
>trying to fix yourself = success
But that wasn't the fucking message, the point was that no one will be able to save you if you aren't willing to save yourself. It has jack shit to do with success.

>>144851373
>This supports the theme that nobody, not even Misaki could save Satou.
But was she ever really trying to save him, or just use him to sooth her own problems? Maybe if someone actually wanted to help him it would be a different matter entirely Either way in the end they both ended up depending on each other for a kind of strength in the very end at the very least.

While I suppose Satou could very well have ended up in the same place (with a part time job) if Misaki Hadn't interfered in the first place and helped him, there was still the obvious possibly of him joining the suicide cult/just getting worse in his paranoia and hallucinations as he seemed to be doing.

>Satou's problem was entirely his environment
How so? I thought it was clear he was in a paranoid spiral because of social expectations which lead to his problems. I mean that might count as enviroment but it's kind of hard to change all that.

>>144851876
That's not really a good message then. "No one will help you, and there's no proof trying to help yourself will help either", kind of just sounds like the message is you are 'dammed if you do, probably dammed too if you don't'

>>144851635
>OK, but then is that really relevant to the message "trying to fix yourself = success"

It's not quite so black and white. The message is more along the lines of "Try to improve your situation, or how else will you find satisfaction with living?" Through a combination of of learning to live with himself and his problems and unavoidable circumstances he gained the motivation he needed to get a damn job and that is what saved him.

>if it's just something he'd learn to live with anyways what bearing does it have on his efforts?

It has everything to do with his efforts because you can't learn to live with yourself just by living. It requires constant effort and is only achieved through extensive reflection and with a large desire to change, both of which Satou undertook during his "journey" in the show.

>I'm afraid I don't see the significance of this beyond being a "last chance" type situation

This situation was in a way it's own "catalyst" to allow him to apply what he had learned and gained throughout the show.

>agree to disagree

fair enough, not everyone will have the exact same interpretation

>>144852025
>No one will help you, and there's no proof trying to help yourself will help either
Missing the point and going for the extremes again, I see.

>While I suppose Satou could very well have ended up in the same place (with a part time job) if Misaki Hadn't interfered in the first place and helped him
Doubt it, his attempt to get a job was half-assed and he immediately gave up when his social anxiety kicked in and went back to his self-pitying.

>there was still the obvious possibly of him joining the suicide cult/just getting worse in his paranoia and hallucinations as he seemed to be doing
That's just manga/anime original filler.

>>144852080
>The message is more along the lines of "Try to improve your situation, or how else will you find satisfaction with living?"

I suppose that revised main message I can accept. Though it's not something that resonates with me.
>>144852287
>Missing the point and going for the extremes again, I see.
Then how would you put it?

>Doubt it, his attempt to get a job was half-assed and he immediately gave up when his social anxiety kicked in and went back to his self-pitying.
Then how would you see him ending up without interference? Worse off than with no Misaki?

>That's just manga/anime original filler.
I only skimmed the LN, but I was pretty sure he was having paranoid delusions (and in the LN snorting LSD) as a main point of both the LN and the anime.

>>144847338
>dropping 30 pounds in a month
no wonder it all comes back, try not going on a crash diet and losing it more gradually

Why didn't satou just get a job?

>>144847338
>Going down in weight
>Not getting natty gains so you can eat as much as you do when fat but use it to maintain muscle mass
Why brah?

>>144851447
Don't know if this is bait or you just missed the point of the entire show

>>144848724
Psychiatrists are not your friend, but they do good work. Psychologists are a crock of of shit.

>>144852611
Because wageslaving in Japan is absolutely horrible.

>>144852547
>Then how would you put it?
"Even if someone tries to help you, you can't be saved if you aren't willing to get saved"

While Satou had severe psychological issues, he never sought and help was always blaming his problems on society and the world (hello there /r9k/) and was just drowning self-pity and escapism, it wasn't until shit hit the fan for him and he hit rock bottom when he nearly starved to death when he was forced by the circumstances to get his shit together and pull himself out of the hole.

>Then how would you see him ending up without interference? Worse off than with no Misaki?
Most likely it would have been the same as the ending on the long run, his parents would have had enough with his shit and cut off his allowance, and he would have been forced to find a job.

>I only skimmed the LN, but I was pretty sure he was having paranoid delusions (and in the LN snorting LSD) as a main point of both the LN and the anime.
Yeah, his halluciantions are a major plot point in the LN but the mom visit, suicide cult and mmo were manga-original.

>>144852611
Because your bait wasn't strong enough.

>think about killing myself
>realize I'd have to actually clean up my room and wipe all my hard drives and online presence
Easier to just keep going

>>144853326
I just encrypt all my shit and threw out most of my trashy possessions years ago.

>>144853268

>Most likely it would have been the same as the ending on the long run
That's what I meant when I said he would have ended up getting a job. Sorry for the confusion.

>but the mom visit, suicide cult and mmo were manga-original.
Ah, I see.

>>144853738
>That's what I meant when I said he would have ended up getting a job. Sorry for the confusion.
Oh, I though you meant the manga cafe incident.

But yeah in the LN the tipping point for him was when his parents cut his allowance and he had a very bad trip and realizes he had been drooling on the floor for a week and that he almost starved to death.

You should really read the novel, it's miles ahead the anime

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>tfw independantly wealthy
>neet
>no friends
>no social life
>only anime

>>144855685
sounds like a good life to me.

>>144843874
Enjoy your student loan debt, Women's Studies major

Say, has anybody read Boku no Air by the same author? I'm interested in it, but I really couldn't find any raws on it.

>>144838950
No. It hit but in a way relative to me. I pay bills, study and can leave the house more than readily when I actually want to.

Hell the most I got out of it was listening to Pururin on repeat a couple of times on my evening walk.

>>144848619
>Then that was a very poorly conveyed message.
This nigger cannot be serious

>>144849667
Pain I can understand being aversive to but wanting to move first, wew. Why not just admit you're not that invested and start using the energy that was invested in convincing yourself you were suicidal on other productive things?

>>144855685

So what do your parents say about you staying inside and not having a job?

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>>144860069
Scratch that, just found it in some nip site. Now to see if I can understand what the flying fuck the moon runes are about.

>>144849350
This desu senpai

>>144842816
Doing my engineering school now and this shit is scary, there better be jobs for aerospace