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>Sword Art Online started out with an interesting premise

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>Sword Art Online started out with an interesting premise
>The Aincrad arc was solid
>Its only disappointments were a lack of characterization, harem bullshit for a protagonist who's clearly in an established relationship and a somewhat disappointing ending
>SAO didn't become shit until the Alfheim arc, and even that was at least entertaining
>Accel World is a direct upgrade over Sword Art Online, fixing all of its issues except harem bullshit
>/a/ has no real grievances with either SAO or Accel World and dislikes them purely because they were popular while their favorite anime doesn't even get a second season

Prove me wrong.
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edgy protag with zero character traits does stuff with a sword while getting every bitch in sight.
>solid
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We've done this before. SAO was the first to hit a new market by storm. It doesn't make it totally amazing.
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SAO is fine, the game's canon is better though.

>All 100 floors
>Alfheim villain is in Aincrad and there's no attempted rape scene
>Philia's story is actually enjoyable
>Sinon and Leafa are in Aincrad too
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Can we get SAO banned here?
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>>144724247
Don't you have an MLP episode to analysed, Digibro?
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>>144724271
Now that is something I legitimately did not expect. Has it become so bad people talk about some youtube retard here? Just further proof how shit these threads are.
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>>144724048
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It's a show about teenagers fighting in a game targeted for 12 year old boys. Why the hell were you guys expecting a masterpiece out of this?
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>>144724048
>Accel World is a direct upgrade over Sword Art Online

no

Accel world is slightly less offensive writing wise, but manages to be more annoying/boring in return.
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SAO is a fantastic anime.
But you need advanced skill in ignoring.
If you ignore all the pointless deathgame and drama bullshit it's a solid fantasy video game SoL.
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>>144724048
>Sword Art Online started out with an interesting premise
no it didn't it kill yourself
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>>144728315
It's the SoL and harem content in the middle that made the deathgame and drama feel like bullshit. If the show decided to prioritize an actual narrative over pandering, escapism, fanservice trash then it would be better. But it didn't.
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>>144724048
>dislikes them purely because they were popular

You are not wrong
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>>144728452
the drama ruins the harem antics and the SoL, not the other waz around
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Sword Art Online's 1st season was ok, had some good fights and cute moments but It was hardly "good". Everything beyond it is utter tripe.

>Accel World
>Direct upgrade
>Fixes all issues except harem bullshit
>baby face MC for self insert fatties

I think you have this wrong OP, both are fucking shit.
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It was good until episode 4. It went to shit after fag MC interacted with Asuna. Fucking horny otaku ruining a good premise.
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>>144728452
>pandering, escapism, fanservice trash
This describes pretty much nearly every single anime that's out.
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>go to buy furniture
>get recruited to build a siege engine
wew

>>144728824
Uh. He interacted with Asuna in episode 2. Episode 4 is (IIRC) Liz's episode and well into harem-building nonsense. That said, she met him and decided that she was in love with him in the span of one episode, so yeah, fuck that.
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>>144728887
True. But it's also a matter of prioritization. Does an anime prioritize its narrative or themes or does it prioritize pandering?
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>>144724048
Think I'll just post this whenever this thread comes up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ9NlThB3SY
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>>144729413
Solid point, but Yui doesn't show up after that in the Aincrad arc. There is still some tension left in that it's not certain if and how Yui will survive after SAO ends. Alfheim eliminates that tiny little sliver of tension that remains by making Yui compatible with FUCKING EVERYTHING.

So while it's a good point, it doesn't automatically make Aincrad shit as a stand-alone arc.
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>>144724048
>The Aincrad arc was solid
>Its only disappointments were a lack of characterization, harem bullshit for a protagonist who's clearly in an established relationship and a somewhat disappointing ending
I feel like that would prevent it from being called solid

Also, AW doesn't have a second season, though I would like one and wasn't nearly as popular as SAO
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>Aincrad
Good, for what it was at least.
>Alfheim
Terrible. Basically the first season but with the good shit removed and the bad shit amplified
>GGO
I liked the setting and Sinon. The story was bad and it's just as pointless as Alfheim, though.

SAO should've ended when ended. Also I can't get behind Accel World with that awful MC.
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>>144731188
SAO should've ended when SAO ended.*
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The entirety of SAO was stupid fun for me. Its like a seasonal battle harem but with good direction and animation.
Mother's Rosario was legitimately decent though.
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>>144724048
>The Aincrad arc was solid
>If you ignore all these issues
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>>144731315
>Mother's Rosario was legitimately decent though.
If you pretend that the DRAMA doesn't exist, yes.
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>>144724048
I dunno about you but SAO was actually very enjoyable. In a virtual reality game would you not try to get a harem and be an edgy retard? If I was 15 I would and I know you would to. You could watch this show and be over analytical of it but you have to put yourself in the target audience of the people it's meant for, 15 year olds and NEETs. I thought every part was great, including the fairy arc and to be honest people treat it unfairly which seems disappointing for the anime community. SAO 2 was even better because guns are even cooler and more edgier. Just turn off your brains and have fun
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>>144731698
I don't think the drama was that bad, especially compared to GGO and Sugu's lust for her Onii-chan. The ending where everyone in Alfheim deciding to come say goodbye to Aids-chan when she dies was pretty stupid though and ruined the emotional moment.
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Second season had great character design and was just fun to watch.
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The strangest thing about SAO to me is that if you go to a convention (inb4 normie) there are tons of girls cosplaying SAO. Sinon was an incredibly popular choice for a while, and she's well into the trash territory.

I thought SAO was only aimed at neckbeards who want to duel wield katanas in a trenchcoat, but could it actually secretly be aimed at hamplanets who want to orbit that???
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>>144724092
Did you want a beta faggot MC who gets dominated and fucked in the ass by the female characters?
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>>144732021
I guess you could see Asuna as a female self-insert of some kind. I heard some girls love it when other girls want their guy.
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>>144732116
On a similiar note, I used to know someone who browsed tumblr and got angry about not enough women in comics and shit, and he called Asuna "an awesome female character".

Her personality is being a wife that cooks good for the MC and then needs rescuing....
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>>144732021
My friends gf said how loads of her friends love SAO. Maybe they all want to be locked up in a cage.
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>>144732068
At least it would've been a shitty anime that I could fap to instead of just get bored by it.
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Honest question; why do so many people hate Accel World's MC? Is it people who have, or have not seen the series?

I can understand being a bit put off by the idea but he's pretty well written and interesting to me. He has an excuse for being beta.
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>>144724048
>>The Aincrad arc was solid
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>>144732159
>Her personality is being a wife that cooks good for the MC and then needs rescuing....
That was later. But the first arc and mother rosario show her as capable, driven, a good fighter and with actually some personality.
Her relationship with Kirito in the first arc was very appealing too as a romance. That kind of thing is what girls fantasize about.
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>>144732320
Put it off because he was a fat beta, though now I do like the idea of how he's actually a reflection of how he sees himself. I'm sick of video game VR shit though, so I doubt I'll ever watch it.
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>>144732387
It's very good, it's not like SAO where they're trapped, they just hop in to fight.

>>144732378
I'll give you good fighter, but about all I remember of her personality is "good at cooking" "likes Kirito" "is nice". She doesn't really have a goal of her own besides the shared "complete the game" . I just don't find her all that interesting myself, though I'll admit that a real romance is a nice touch, even if it's been terribly handled.

I wish AW got the real romance and SAO just admitted it wanted to be haremshit.
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>>144732481
>her personality is "good at cooking" "likes Kirito" "is nice"
Those traits were developed later though. Unlike the rest of the girls in the show, the relationship gradually evolved into what it is today. She didn't start with "Likes Kirito", she was mostly indifferent, joins the biggest guild later on, was a bit of a tsundere and a loner at the beginning.
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>>144732159
Well, the "needs rescuing" part has nothing to do with her personality and everything to do with Kawahara sticking her in a cage for stupid plot purposes. All in all, given her circumstances (player without privileges held hostage by the admin), she did pretty well for herself. Even when stripped and bound and rape was imminent, what she told Kirito was basically "It's alright; I will be okay." I guess that's as good as you can get with Sugou around.

When else does she need rescuing?
>Kuradeel
She saved his life first, then he saves hers.
>getting to that one boss in Mother's Rosario
7-vs-guild is pretty ridiculous, so whatever.

Otherwise, she holds up pretty well in combat and game-related aspects. Remember that Kirito is the one who is all MUH IMMERSION and wanted to retire from raiding to have a fuwa fuwa married life, while Asuna pushed him back and is overall the more dedicated "raider" and more focused on getting out.

Her ambition is totally to be a good wife, though. There's no denying that her world revolves completely around Kirito because of course it does.
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>>144729314
>“A rocking chair!”

Is it THAT rocking chair?
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you want SAO but whit carismatic and likeable characters?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6kJKxvbgZ0
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>>144732757
You mean the one in Midgard-Aincrad where Kirito keeps falling asleep? Probably, though god knows how the chair also got transferred over from SAO to ALO.

It's not the chair they can't stop themselves from being lewd in. Sex in a rocking chair sounds dangerous, honestly.
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>>144731188
is Asuna trying to be fucking guts? you're not guts you little shit...
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>>144732918
(You)
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>>144724048

You're right about everything.
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>>144732918
you are right, Asuna has more personality
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Would have been better to be just a 12-episode anime that just continued on the manga.

The Alfiem arc and GGO are pointless and shouldn't even exist.
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>>144733159
Well, they were written almost 10 years later after the original story. So the writer had enough time to become worse.
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>SAO

Or I could just watch Log Horizon.
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>>144724235
Which game?
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You guys remember when Kotaku ran that article called "SAO is the smartest anime I've seen in years"?

Good times.
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>>144733214
I don't think they were both that recent, were they? The stories in volume 8 were of recent authorship, but I'm pretty sure the WN stories that became ALO and GGO were much, much earlier. Alicization was huge and only finished in 2012 or so after SAO began in 2002.

All the non-SAO games' problem is that it got rid of the most attractive aspect of the setting (muh deathgame) and replaced a straightforward (if tacky) romance with an endless harem.
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>>144724247
>Can we get SAO banned here?
Or you could just not click on the threads for the shows you don't like. It's really pretty simple.
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>>144728824
Well the romance with Asuna was actually top quality for most animes, after all we really see this in anime since neckbeards otaku can't get girlfriends and therefore can't relate to the character. Very risky move by the creator
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>>144733404
Even worse than SAO.
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>>144733214
>Well, they were written almost 10 years later after the original story
Untrue.
ALO and GGO were written immediately after the first arc.

The "10 years later" bit is when he got them published.
There are some differences between the Web Novel of SAO, ALO and GGO, and the Light Novel versions, but they're pretty slight, and it doesn't seem the author wanted to change things too much from his original draft.

>>144734571
It's silly too, cause SAO threads are pretty uncommon.
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>>144724181
>People think SAO was the first anime that touched on isekai
Being this reddit

Also OP, I know that's bait but I stopped watching not because of the things you listed but because Kirito is an undeniable Gary Stu with 0 interesting qualities. He's a walking embodiment of "TOO SLOW" memes. The only people who liked him are just underexposed to any decent media, or liked Eragon when they were growing up.
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>>144738240
>People think SAO was the first anime that touched on isekai

It certainly wasn't the first, but I would argue it kicked off the current trend in Light Novels and Anime.
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SAO turned from meh to good if 2nd volume doesn't exist.

>>144732320
>>144732387
>Haruyuki
>Beta
This meme needs to die. He is actually talented, it's just that he is in lack of confidence because of bullying. Remember him making all kill in FPS back in primary school, the black knight avatar, and Crow vs Ash round 2?
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How is Kirito edgy? I never understood that complaint. He seems like the typical nice guy protag.
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>>144740201
He had an episode or two of brooding in the first season, then became a sun-shine and roses nice-guy for the rest of the series.
People like to focus on the fact he wears all black, like any other teenager whose favorite color is black.
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>>144732918
Are you retarded?
-Blackrose
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>>144733404
>Sleeping pills

At least the bad bits of SAO were funny
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The theme of whether life spent online is really lived is interesting. What killing does to you was as well. Beats the absolute nothing for themes in a lot of Chinese cartoons.
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>>144724048
>The Aincrad arc was solid

> Asuna developing to a pet dog
> Timeskip
> Fishing episode
> Timeskip
> Builds the "club of abandoned kirito waifus"
> Timeskip
> Climax is literally solved by deus ex machina cheats
> Timeskip
> Villain literally doesn't have a motive, because he forgot
> Timeskip
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>>144728483
>this

the adventure/banter/battle scenes are well executed and have good production values, and although not exceptional, are certainly enjoyable.

it's the hours of sitting in restaurants be they virtual or real world discussing plot and drama I don't give half a fuck about
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>>144724048
What's with that greentext? Why can't you shitheads express your thoughts in a form of several coherent sentences instead of that pseudo-quoting?
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>>144724048
L O G H O R I Z O N I S B E T T E R
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>>144745046
>Literally a kids show
>better
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>>144740201
He feels most comfortable wearing black and he has swords.
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There's something I don't get about the plot. Okay, so it's set up so the players can't log off, and trying to remove the neuro-VR gear from them will cause it to kill them, alright. Why can't a player's friends or family just cut off the fuse for their whole house's power in the basement, simultaneously removing them from the game and depriving the neuro-VR gear (or whatever you call it) of the power needed to kill them? I mean, frying someone's brain has to take a certain amount of energy, and there's only so much the device can have stored in it.
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>>144745244
Because the plot is a framing device not the focus.
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>>144745244
I dislike the show but killswitches aren't exactly uncommon, especially as a plot device.

It takes a surprisingly low amount of amperage to kill a human, 100 milliamps, and a mechanism to send that through whatever connects the helmet to the brain when power is disconnected using a battery wouldn't be that hard.
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>>144745351
>the story isn't the focus
indeed
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>>144745244
Super brain-frying batteries. They could tolerate being unplugged for 2 hours and still fry your brain at the end of it. Japan's consumer safety protections fucked up, I guess.
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>>144745385
Okay, so why don't they smash the helmet? It can't put any current through if the circuit's broken.
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>>144745244
>cut off the fuse
Battery powered? Cut off the power and the NerveGear will automatically kill you after 10 minutes.
Disconnect from the internet, and it will kill you after 2 hours.
Try to remove or tamper with the NerveGear, it kills you immediately.

While it takes a certain amount of power to fry a whole brain, it doesn't take very much just to fry a few vital components that would result in inevitable death.

There are flaws with the story, but this is hardly one.
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>>144724048
No, I hate it because it's started a shitty fucking genre that won't die for another 10 years
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>>144745427
do you actually seek logic in retarded anime?
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>>144745427
Any tampering with the hardware triggers the brain frying mechanism.

I guess the amount of physical trauma you'd need to break that basic mechanism would also break someone's skull. Who knows?

In any case, it's handwaved away and not meant to be thought about too much.
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I dropped it episode 3 when it was obviously chunni harem shit. Honestly I never liked harems until I discovered the ones with large amounts of ecchi and nudity
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>>144745553
Why don't they analyze one that's already gone off and find where the wire that carries the kill charge is, then cut right in that exact spot?
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>>144745620
Because then you have to open the device, but the NerveGear already has super-sensitive sensors. Remember how calibrating the NerveGear required you to touch yourself all over and move a bit?
These kinds of sensors could also be used to detect if someone is tampering with the NerveGear, or even out-right be used as a rough-sonar.

Any wire-cutting would need to first cut into the NerveGear's case, which can be detected through the vibrations.


Of course, some of this isn't explicit. But in a lot of cases you have to assume the "super genius" already thought of that. Like he said, it's pretty much hand-waved, but it's vague enough that anything could explain why it took so long.
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>>144745782
Maybe a bullet right through the right spot, angled not to hit the human, then? Although the point brought up in the above tripfag's name is a good one too; why DIDN'T they just EMP everyone?
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>>144745994
>why DIDN'T they just EMP everyone?
People have brought up Faraday cages as a good example. You don't need to shield everything either; just the parts that matter.
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>>144746127
A Faraday cage can only be so effective, thoughー nothing can be 100%. Humans are generally unaffected by EMPs, so crank the EMP up high enough and it's gotta do something.
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>>144745198
It has less plot holes/character derailment to make MC-kun look good.

Log Horizon is just boring; its still objectively better than SAO.
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>The Aincrad arc was solid.
Only literally retarded people say this. the whole show sucked outside of the premise, and pic related was the killing blow.
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>>144724048
>>Sword Art Online started out with an interesting premise
>>The Aincrad arc was solid

No?
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SAO is sill better than reddit:zero. In before fedoras bawwwwwwwww
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I unironically think SAO is a 10/10.

>inb4 you've only watched 3 series
No, I've watched over 500.
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So the Accel World movie turned out to be half recap, just like the first SAO "Movie"

I'm guessing Ordinal Scale is also going to be half-recap again.
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>>144748574
Watching everything you come across is more of an indication of a lack of taste rather than a discerning one.
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>>144750414
Well that sounds pretty disappointing.
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>>144748574
Please explain why you think that.
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>>144750414
>first SAO movie
You mean Extra Edition? We knew that from the get-go, though, right? Still, that's disappointing to see from AW.

I can't see Ordinal Scale being part-recap since it's a completely new game. That would be too much to cram into a single half of a movie.
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>>144751848
>We knew that from the get-go, though, right?
Nope.
It was never advertised as a full film or real movie or anything, but I remember everyone was pretty much caught off-guard.
Tap actually held a live-stream re-watch of Season 1 that would be followed imminently by the live-stream of EE in Japan.

500~ people basically watched Season 1 together, and then watched it again, compressed into 40 minutes.

At least with AW, there's apparently 40 minutes of original content. But none of the recap explains everything between Volume 5 and 19, so people were still confused about the original content.
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So what's the ballista going to be? Absolutely useless? A typo?
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I read progressive.
I wish I did sooner, it's as good as Squad Jam.
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Just wait for S3. The 1st episode alone will make /a/ implode.
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>>144754880
Does Sinon ever appear in Squad Jam? Like, damn. Make a spinoff of her game but make her never show up?
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>>144738240
>Not like rad dragons
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>>144755009
She appears by name, but I'm pretty sure it was intentionally its own little thing. I like it much more for that.
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>>144753961
>typo
If it was a typo, it wouldn't come with a creating recipe for a ballista, unless it somehow turns out to be a giant hammock or something.

Just think: if Kirito didn't do his thing, the last 25 floors of SAO could have had siege encounters.
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>>144755171
How the fuck does sewing, woodwork, and polearms make a ballista?
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>>144755009
>Make a spinoff of her game but make her never show up?
That's the point of the "Sword Art Online Alternative" series. It's just a bunch of spin-offs written by other authors.
Clover's Regret is written by some nobody author, and takes place in Asuka Empire, a game that Yuuki and her sister use to play, but you're never going to hear about them.
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>>144755342
>Clover's Regret

Huh, hadn't even heard of this one.
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>>144748574
Please enlighten me peasant, how does Shit Art Online stand on the same level as anime like Steins;Gate?
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>>144755213
How does it not? A ballista is essentially a massive bow and polearm-sized arrow.
>Woodworking
Bow body
>Sewing
Bow"string" (work with me here). Hey, if seamsters can work on ship rigging, they can work on siege weapons.
>Polearm crafting
"Arrow"

Trebuchet when?
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>>144755700
>Instead of a trebuchet, they create a mechanism to swing a really big axe really hard
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>>144724048
>anime with no ecchi

Into the trash it goes
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>>144755550
Only the first chapter came out in a magazine. Hasn't even been translated fully yet.
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>>144755937
>No ecchi
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>>144724048
>>Accel World is a direct upgrade over Sword Art Online, fixing all of its issues except harem bullshit
Haru is worse than Kirito. He's fat, ugly, insecure, short, socially awkward and generally annoying in the opposite spectrum of where Kirito is. Yet, somehow, just like Kirito, he has a harem because he's skilled at playing video games? At least Kirito was half-way decent looking, and despite how many times the writer wanted to make it seem like Kirito had social-communication issues, he didn't. He was just more quiet and reserved than the rest. Haru is more of a self-insert than Kirito. He's just on the opposite direction, where instead of the writer appeals to those who believe they're special snowflakes, he's appealing to the betas losers who believe Haru's situation is completely plausible, despite being an ugly, fat, short, socially insecure beta.
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>>144732021
>Sinon was an incredibly popular choice for a while, and she's well into the trash territory.

How did your taste become so breathtakingly shit senpai?
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>>144756515
Eugeo doesn't have a voice yet anon.
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>>144724048
I enjoyed it because I enjoyed the game worlds, but the mechanics weren't that interesting until ALO. If the games were more fleshed out, it'd be great. I liked Shino's and Yuuki's arcs, so SAO II was actually interesting while the first was just boring. I liked the characters more in their roles than as actual characters, so they weren't interesting despite getting me pumped for the Calibur arc (which should be "Caliburn").
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>>144724048
No arc was solid. It's shit starting from episode 2.
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>>144756432
>he has a harem
Everyone keeps saying this, but the only person who likes him in the anime is Kuroyukihime. Like, what?
Even LN readers say there's only one other character that seems to develop a crush on his avatar self, but that's about it.

>At least Kirito was half-way decent looking
Kirito was a girly trap. He wasn't "half-way decent"; Nips find him hot af.

>social-communication issues
He just didn't like being in large groups, and he hated taking responsibility for shit. I imagine he grew out of it after 2 years (like any teenager would), but it was never really portrayed as being very big a thing.
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>>144744076
This. If they had adapted more floors (taking hints from Progressive and such) and fit the whole Aincrad arc into 26 episodes I think it wouldn't be so bad.
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>>144738332
I like SAO more than 99% of isekai shit for this very reason.

>people being OK with dogshit like Re:Zero yet heavily against SAO

I just don't get weebs sometimes.
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>>144755854
Or an onager for easy disposal of trash mobs.
>AOE via siege weaponry and a very brave and buffed tank

>>144755342
I saw a blonde ninja and mentions of "detective" and SAO survivor, so I got excited for Argo, only for it to the detective dude to turn out to be a guy.
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>>144756961
Re:Zero is better than SAO. This is fact.
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>>144724048
Kirito is a boring and uninteresting character. There are a bazillion other shows I could be watching instead.

This is all the justification I need to say that it's shit.
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>>144756961
SAO is popular and successful, reeeee:zero doesnt trigger hipsters as hard because lukewarm success
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>>144724048
>Game where sword combat is a major feature
>The ability to use two swords at once is a super secret special ability
This is next level bullshit
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>>144757123
>sword combat
>major feature
??? They had many different kinds of weapons and along with them many skills. There were even 10 other unique skills, that of which dual blades fit into. Any game with secret things is fun and Kayaba knew that.
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>>144757123
>Implying a game would be better without super secret features
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>>144757175
>>144757240
>Super secret feature that only one player can use
That's not fun at all, if there was some unlock condition then it would be cool.
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For all the crap that Kirito gets for being a chuuni faggot, Kayaba has him beat many times over. I wish the players had actually mocked him like in the 4koma.
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Would you let Kirito take you on a ride on his motorcycle?
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>>144757288
>if there was some unlock condition then it would be cool.
It's like you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>144757521
>getting plates of your girlfriend's birthday
Maximum whipped.

>letting her implant a chip in you
Overly whipped.
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>>144757734
Kirito can't even watch porn without Asuna knowing about it.
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>>144757299
License the 4koma pls, Yen Press.
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>>144757175
Kayaba's secret fun things checklist;
1. Secret grim reaper things that can kill you.
2. Unique skills which favour certain characters for plot convenience.
3. Two fag style (coordinating on two swords is harder than concentrating on one sword)
4. You either have the class Sonic, Faggot or Background Character.
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>>144724048
>Accel World
Don't even mention that piece of shit. I've never wanted to reach into my monitor and physically strangle an anime protagonist to death until Accel World. Truly the most worthless character ever created.
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>>144758335
>coordinating on two swords is harder than concentrating on one sword
Not that it matters, seeing how Sword Skills are automated.

Besides, this was all supposed to be Kayaba's fantasy, and little else. Everyone else was just there to be part of HIS story.
Just like >>144757299 said, he was legitimately a chuuni.
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>>144724048
Nice pasta, also watch more anime.
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>>144758664
>Truly the most worthless character ever created
What about Subaru?
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I know /a/s SAO threads are all anime-only secondaries shitposting each other but can we talk about Alicization while we shitpost too?

>Asuna logs into Underworld with a Goddess account
>She creates a massive canyon that makes two large armies cease battle

>Shinon logs in to Underworld with a Goddess account
>She uses the Bow of the Sun to destroy thousands of mooks with a single arrow

>Suguha logs into Underworld with a Goddess account
>She immediately gets taken captive by an Orc and then tentacle raped by a witch
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>>144758843
What do you expect?
Suguha is literally suffering incarnate.
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>>144758843
Jesus, so the series isn't getting any better, then.
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>>144759083
This arc is pretty nice actually, there is a decent ensemble of secondary characters that are better fleshed out than the cardboard cutouts from previous parts. People can't even bitch about "Baaww Gary Stuuu" since he's been in a double coma with an arm chopped off for two volumes. Its not high literature but its a pretty nice fantasy tale.

Sugu jobbing is just a feature to be taken for granted by now and should not be used to judge the whole
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>>144759083
Can't you see the glorious naming conventions being used in the pic?
>Dark Sorceress Guild
Bet they are white, probably also KKK fags who think they are wizards, also the guild part is a ruse it is just one person playing everyone in the guild.
>Integrity Knight Alice
People think she is just a moralfag wannabe paladin, her biggest secret is she is a weaboo pretending to be a fag with cancerous morals.
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>>144758843
>>144759322
Let's not forget that the orc holding Sugu 'captive' is literally Squealer.
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>>144756909
Other than Kuro, Chiyu is implied to have a crush on him, and Fuuko even kissed Haru. So there's three girls already crushing on Haru, one of whom is considered the most popular, most attractive girl of Haru's school, as well as vice-president of the school council. So, yes, it is self-insert harem trash that tries to appeal to the fantasies of desperate readers.

Kirito has the generic pretty boy appearance. Western audiences may not find that attractive, a sentiment I agree with, but SAO was targeted at Japanese readers. The Japanese find Kirito attractive, and that's all it matters to Kawahara.

Also, your third just confirms the anon's point. Kirito's flaw wasn't really a flaw at all.
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>>144759322

It's still shit
>>
What are you looking forward to in S3?
>kirito fighting death gun with an umbrella
>kirito going brain dead
>aincrad style
>bankai
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>>144724048
>The Aincrad arc was solid
I hate this meme. Everything after episode 2 was shit.
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>>144759427
It's funny how everything in the Dark Territory has the word "Dark" appended to its title, except for maybe the Boxers.

The Japanese government is racist yo; they literally made all of the humans that live in the "bad and evil" land dark skinned.
The Dark Territory is what happens when you mix Africa and Australia.

>>144759639
The bankai everywhere is going to be fun to watch animated at least. Maybe forcing the anime to talk about Sword Skills would be good too.
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>>144759322
>Final Tolerance Experiment

In other words it is THE "How much more of this shit can I tolerate experiment"
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>>144759639
Bankai for sure

>Its SAIBAH with literally Bayakuya Kuchiki's powers
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>>144759639
>bankai
Wait what, what part was this? Do you mean when they're climbing the Tower?
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>>144759639
Cardinal-chan, Soft, and hilarious East Asian racism tensions.
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>>144759322
What's the point of SAO if you're not going to go full Gary Stu? I don't care about these characters, I watched SAO to see Kirito bend the plot around himself.
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>>144759829
He's referencing how the weapons the Integrity Knights have, and how they have a two-stage power-up is nearly identical to the "bankai" in Bleach.

Alice's sword is even an exact duplicate of Bayakuya's.
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>>144759322
>dead
>eldrie
TAG YOUR FUCKING SPOILERS i'm only on volume 14 ;_;
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>>144759936
You have only yourself to blame, for looking at an image from two-volumes ahead, and then carefully looking at what everyone is going, and who's dead.
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>>144759639
Elegant rape memes.
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>>144759936
It'll hurt more when you actually read it. happen
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>>144759850
>>144759795
>>144759728
>>144759639

>Forgetting to list BEST BOY

>Administrator had White Rose motif armor in his size just lying around
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>>144760170
The TrueFag has awakened.
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>>144724048
SAO was garbage from the start
>Show starts
>Have 3 episodes of stupid filler right off the bat
>Wow aren't you sad that these characters that you were introduced to 15 minutes ago are all dead now wow :(((((((((
>Nonsensical time skips
>Constant asspulls
>Every girl Kirito meets falls in love with him
>Every guy Kirito meets gets 3 minutes of screen time because you can't take attention away from the self-insert

>>144724381
I was expecting something stupid and generic but entertaining and I didn't even get that.
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>>144760341
COMPLETELY PLATONIC
>>
>>144760170
>>144760458
Eugeo was great. All of the fujos that will get dragged in worries me, but he was a fun character to contrast Kirito.
>>
>>144724048
why the fuck would you not use the archive and look at the 15,000 other threads newshits just like you have made on the same topic
>>
So is a third season all but a pipe dream at this point?
>>
>>144724048
>>/a/ has no real grievances with either SAO or Accel World and dislikes them purely because they were popular while their favorite anime doesn't even get a second season
Pretty much this. Can`t be more precise than that
>>
>>144724048
>Aincrad
A mediocre show.
>Alfheim
A heaping pile of shit.
>GGO
Avergage, but still retarded.
>>
>>144760597
Since everything post second season end is just Alicization and that arc isn't done yet in the LNs. I'm assuming they are waiting to adapt the whole thing once its done.

Kadokawa isn't just gonna NOT milk this cow for everything its worth
>>
>>144760739
Plenty of material for a Progressive season right now.
>>
>>144760790
True but Progressive kind of retcons the shit out of Vol 1 though. So it would fuck with the first cour of the first season they already made

I wouldn't mind, I think Progressive is pretty cute and going back and retelling Aincrad with GGO/Alicization Genki Kirito instead of Volume 1 Beater-McEdgelord was a very good thing for Kawahara to do
>>
>>144760739
They can still have a third season even if Alicization isn't finished yet. As of right now it's already bigger than Aincrad through Gun Gale. If they really want to milk it, they can give 2 seasons to Alicization alone.
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>>144760597
Nah, I'm pretty sure that this means they've got something in the works. There's clearly some interest in adapting more of Kawahara's works.

>>144760979
That's not a big deal. Practically every volume retcons the shit out of volume 1 at some point or another. So most of it is already accounted for.
>>
>>144724048
The show proves you wrong, prove yourself right.
>>
Watch A-1 surprise us with a Sugary Days OVA
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>>144761788
>>
>>144761788
Animate First Day already, goddamn. Bet they're saving it for the Progressive anime.
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>>144761909
First day wasn't even that good
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>>144761965
First Day was great, though. That's what Coper gets for being a tryhard fag.
>>
>>144732619
If they had cut out or toned down her tantrums, she'd feel like a totally normal human rather than an archetype.
>>
>>144758843
Where to read novels?
>>
SAO went to shit shit right at ep 2.
It's filled with plot holes, autistic characters, deus ex machinas, TIME SKIPS, horrible pacing, failed attemps at SOL/romance.

TL;DR

ITS SHIT.
>>
>sao thread is still not deleted
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>>144764955
>he bumped a thread on its way to falling of the board

Sasuga Greentexter
>>
>>144765154
mad
>>
>>144732966
T. never read the manga or consumed any berserk media, opinion is formed by what he imagines the character to be like from what little art he's seen
>>
>expected anime about a guy stuck grinding in an MMORPG
>expected in-depth exploration of the fact that it was a videogame, and vidya mechanics.
>instead got some admittedly good fights spaced by boring harem sol shit
>>
>>144724048
The only good thing about SAO was the Lizbeth episode.

And also that dark skin catgirl from the Second Season.
>>
>>144766457
>2016
>people on /a/ still don't understand the difference between a season and a cours

>>144763401
Defan.
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>>144729413
that was surprisingly good
>>
>>144746449

A bad show that is entertaining is easily better than a mediocre show that is boring.
>>
Couldn't you remove a nerv gear by putting the player into an MRI machine and turning it on?
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>ctrl-f
>no results for derp_commander
/a/,
I am disappoint.
>>
>“Geez! Honestly, that time was incredibly embarrassing, you know! I thought that the leader would naturally be at the front, but then with his usual composure, he went, ‘I believe we could achieve a much greater effect if Asuna-kun were to stand at the front’, having that serious look on, so I went out there in despair!”
>“Ha-Hah… —That reminds me, that equipment really was custom-tailored, right? Who came up with the design?”
>“……All of the other guild members held meetings for the design countless time while keeping it a secret from me. When they first showed it to me, I rejected it with a ‘I can’t wear something like this!’ and was told, ‘The cost of even a single set of this was colossal!’ by Daizen-san with tears in his eyes, so I had no choice but to…”
You will never sexually harass Asuna into becoming your guild's fap fodder.
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>>144744076

Agreed. SAO should be disliked for its ramshackle plot and uninteresting characters, instead of the fact that it was unexpectedly popular.

That said, I enjoyed it for what it was. I would never recommend it to anyone looking for a decent plot or an immersive world. SAO was all over the place, cutting tension with SoL shit and the whole "we iz a family" business.

With a few tweaks to Kirito's personality, dropping the harem bullshit and making the SoL stuff more like a reward at the end of a long road they could've made a half-way decent anime about the grim reality of a fantasy world.
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>>144766389

I thought the fights were pretty meh. Once you've seen Kirito catch a boss attack on his sword and hack like a maniac screaming "I CAN GET FASTER" you've seen basically all of the SAO fights.
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>>144724048
>>The Aincrad arc was solid
Aincrad arc had good premise but it was far from solid.
First person narration was entertaining read though
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>>144731188
Haseo had more personality in 3 games than Kirito in 14 fucking volumes
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>>144759322
>This arc is pretty nice actually
>Asuna breaking into high grade secret military facility by just wearing a hat
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>>144769736
Yui also proved she's a threat to humanity by changing all photos of Rinko's American assistant that RATH had access to, to a photo of Asuna in a wig, so no one in could tell the difference.
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>>144724048
>SAO didn't become shit until the Alfheim arc
Except for that one time when protag was paralyzed and powered through it with willpower or that one time when protag died and powered through it with willpower.
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>>144766350
>fell for the bait
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>>144769783
>protag was paralyzed and powered through it with willpower
Paralysis has a time limit.
Asuna though definitely pushed through with willpower, which is bull.

>that one time when protag died and powered through it with willpower
He didn't "die" in the novel. It was a LOT more bullshit than what it looked like.
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>>144766350
Watched the first episode of Berserk.
It's complete shit.
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>>144769977
>anime
fuck off beserk is a masterpice
>>
>>144724381
And why not? You're saying it couldn't be one, hypothetically?
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>>144769736
That hat had +10 charisma, how could any9 say no to such a majestic hat.
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>>144724048
What I hate the most is that it was a story about video games written by guy that never played video game in his life
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>>144771039
>source: my ass
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>>144745244
Because that's the premise. You don't scrutinize the premise, only the execution.
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>>144748574
What are some of your other favorites?
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