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Love Live tier
***,*15位/***,**9位 (**6,351 pt) Love Live Sunshine-Limited Edition
***,*61位/***,*52位 (**6,084 pt) Love Live Sunshine

Okay sales tier
***,135位/***,*99位 (**1,297 pt) B-PROJECT
***,292位/***,292位 (***,432 pt) Thunderbolt Fantasy (wow really?)
***,301位/***,291位 (***,438 pt) Tales of Zestria The X

Meh sales tier
***,486位/***,490位 (***,476 pt) Arslan Senki S2

Shit sales tier
***,525位/***,460位 (***,459 pt) Danganronpa 3
***,620位/***,629位 (***,570 pt) NEW GAME
***,652位/***,664位 (***,574 pt) Servamp
***,793位/***,871位 (***,167 pt) ReLife
***,795位/**1,079位 (***,719 pt) Fate/Kaleid Liner
***,795位/**1,079位 (***,719 pt) Sweetness and Lightning-BD-Box
***,870位/***,800位 (***,844 pt) Amanchu!

Irrelevant tier
Everything else. (If you want a specific one, ask). Also can someone explain to me what the fuck happened with Kaleid Liner compared to previous seasons?
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>>144689333
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>>144689728
No, Sunrise/Bandai is conquering the earth. Yuri is in the shitpile where it belongs
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>>144689333
No D.Grey-man?
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>>144689728
Then how come Amanchu is selling like shit?
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>>144689333
>amaama to inazuma so close to the bottom

this makes me sad
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>>144689333
Fate/Kaleid Liner is going balls deep into it's plot.
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>>144689885
Because shit marketing ant the manga isn't that popular to begin with
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>>144689885

Because Aria taught everyone about that author and yuri.
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>>144690014

This manga arc is selling like shit too. Kaleid fans don't want Shirou shit.
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>>144689333
>***,793位/***,871位 (***,167 pt) ReLife

should be higher damn it
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>>144689773
They said the same thing to Madoka and Shaft, once. Once
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>>144690426
>Madoka and Shaft
>can ever compared to Sunrise
Newfag, every one
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>>144689333
>Also can someone explain to me what the fuck happened with Kaleid Liner compared to previous seasons?
Nothing. It was the same with Herz http://rankstker.net/show.cgi?n=B00ZR9BR74&rg=2160&li=&dl=99999999&tn=1#ui-tab
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>>144689333
>Irrelevant tier
>Everything else. (If you want a specific one, ask). Also can someone explain to me what the fuck happened with Kaleid Liner compared to previous seasons?
Wow, you're fucking lazy.
If you are even gonna make those shitpost bait magnets, at least put your all into it.
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>>144690474
Yes, and?
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CHEEKI BREEKI
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>>144689333
Idols stronk.
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>>144690685
Fuck off and lurk more
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>stalker shitposting
>now with irrelevant tier-lists

I FUCKING LOVE IT OP
I FUCKING LOVE IT
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>>144690714
Nay. You fuck off.
Madoka sold twice than the first season of LL.
And Sunrise's entire cult was based on their mecha marketing. Love Live was completely alien to their trade and no one expected it to get this far until they decided to get rid of the supposedly male MC
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>>144689333
WHAT'S THE POINT OF THESE THREADS? THEY ARE USELESS.

FUCK OFF YOU SHITPOSTING CUNT
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>>144689333
>***,292位/***,292位 (***,432 pt) Thunderbolt Fantasy (wow really?)
100% deserved
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>>144689885
>Fake yuri bait
>About nothing at all
>Not funny

Gee, why really
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>>144689333
>Thunderbolt Fantasy beating everything that's not idolshit.

Truly Urobuchi's Taiwanese puppetry is the savior of anime.
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>>144689333
>Being this lazy
Is your ass OP jealous of the amount of shit that just came out of your mouth. You fucking lazy faggot. Anons just let this fucking thread die.
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>>144689728
More like yuribait will conquer bunch of mentally challenged people
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>>144689794
>**4,196位/**3,631位 ○ (***,183 pt) [*,**0予約] 2016/09/28 D.Gray-man HALLOW 1(完全生産限定版) [DVD]

>>144690611
There's really no fun in Stalking the stuff that's lower than 1000 especially when everything this season is pretty low. There isn't even an "LN battle harem war of which will tank the least" like in other seasons to laugh at
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>>144689333
>***,292位/***,292位 (***,432 pt) Thunderbolt Fantasy

Buchi can't keep getting away with this.
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>>144692923
>LN battle harem war of which will tank the least
HxH?
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>>144693229
You need two titles for a war.
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>>144689333
>Thunderbolt Fantasy (wow really?)
It's a great show
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>>144689333
>***,*15位/***,**9位 (**6,351 pt) Love Live Sunshine-Limited Edition
Muse killer they said

>***,135位/***,*99位 (**1,297 pt) B-PROJECT
Next Utapri they said

>***,292位/***,292位 (***,432 pt) Thunderbolt Fantasy (wow really?)
Savior of anime they said

>***,620位/***,629位 (***,570 pt) NEW GAME
Next Shirobako they said

>***,795位/**1,079位 (***,719 pt) Sweetness and Lightning-BD-Box
Next Usagi Drop they said

>***,870位/***,800位 (***,844 pt) Amanchu!
Next Aria they said

>**1,516位/**1,341位 (***,441 pt) HxH
IS killer they said

>**2,237位/**1,895位 (***,*66 pt) 91 Days
Next DRRR they said
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>>144690302

It wasn't selling at all before they threw an event ticket it in since it's already all up for streaming and no episode boost. Now it's basically just pulling a Kiznaiver. Only way to sell it really.
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>>144689728
>LoveLive and Mai Hime with their yuri powers dominating and saving the yuri industry

Where's Mai Hime X Love Live episode Sunrise
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>>144693726
>Next DRRR they said
I don't think anyone said that
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>>144690474

New age fans probably think their roles are reversed and Shaft is this mammoth giant studio that produces it's own hit franchises all the time.

>>144691307

Don't get too excited since it's currently on pace to sell something like 3,000 copies first. Of course it's Aniplex so it's probably slightly underestimated and they've yet to throw in any sort of event ticket. Aniplex shit selling better than most things really should never come as a surprise since they stuff their packages with tons of extras and shit to take advantage of all the popular staff and voice casts. That's what actually sells Blu-Rays in the streaming era. It's more when it's just flat bombing like Qualidea Code despite all the padding that is that is the huge surprise.

Of course who am I kidding trying to explain this common sense stuff to a bunch of shitposters for the hundredth time.
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>>144692923

For people that like doing the AHAHAHAHAHAHA full retard thing there is.
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>>144693229
War, as in, something like the Hundred vs. Asterisk S2 or the Asterisk vs. Rakudai vs. Antimagic "battle of the losers" from a few seasons back
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>>144692964
>Thunderbolt Fantasy
fffffffff what is this shit, why puppets, I don't even.
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>>144693726
>Next Shirobako they said
>Next DRRR they said
Nobody even said this

Nobody even heard about 91 Days before this
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>>144694136
It looks better than most anime
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>>144692964

Thunderbolt Fantasy 東離劍遊紀 1(完全生産限定版) [Blu-ray]
発売日: 2016年09月07日
登録日: 2016年07月07日
最新順位 ***,341位(2016年07月26日02時)
最高順位 ***,242位(2016年07月24日) ※登録24時間以降
最低順位 **1,541位(2016年07月21日) ※登録24時間以降
平均順位 ***,517位(中央値)
ニコ市場予約数:2(前日1)
最新累積ポイント Blu-ray:432pt (※注意事項)
最終予測累積ポイント Blu-ray:1443pt(残り日数42)


Really crushing it on stalker eh. There must be something about today. Could the shows that have higher ranks right now have possibly aired new episodes very recently? Hmmmm I feel this is something that has already been discussed in prior seasons.

The thing is the OP actually almost sort of gets this shit, but he's still forgetting something kind of important if he actually cares.
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>>144693726
>anime
>puppets

No.
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>>144694062
I'm just glad it's selling at all. It would worrying if it sold too much too. TF is great and refreshing to see but Butcher better comes back to anime ASAP.
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>>144689333
Prisma is always like that. In fact, it gets underestimated every time as well.
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>>144689333
>season of shit anime
>the shit anime sells like shit

Wow.
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>>144694365
I don't remember Prisma being lower than the 300s ever.
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>>144694390
Only the first season was like that. Both 2wei and Herz almost always dropped to the 1000~ rankings during certain times of the week.
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>>144694062
>Don't get too excited since it's currently on pace to sell something like 3,000 copies first.
Dude, I think the novelty is that something with fucking puppets, PUPPETS, is doing better than the large majority of the season

Even if the story is surprisingly not awful, it's fucking puppets. You look at Thunderbolt Fantasy and you think it's going to be in the tank with all the other 1000s.
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>>144694213
TBF has been hovering over those ranks since the first episode. It's not like it's going to sell great or anything but it still manages to rank.
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>>144691014

Shitposting because nobody wants to actually learn anything about how stalker prediction works and reign in the bullshit a little. A couple years into this and people still don't know what's ranking high, what's actually racking up decent and consistent preorder numbers, when the episode boosts are, what has event tickets, what pull those event tickets have and what the natural drops in rank throughout a week or into a shows run actually foretell. People just don't actually care about Stalker predictions (kind of how they don't actually seem to care about seasonal anime) and I doubt they even know what the site, where it is, or what it actually tracks and how. It's almost all meme reactions to the the OPs static numbers from when he decides to post them that often have no bearing on what's actually happening with Amazon preorder rankings. Just painful shit for anyone that actually understands how stalker works.

This is also a really fucking bad edition of stalker threads since the OP doesn't even include every show and is organizing it like some kind of studio war. Of course nobody will ever just go to the stalker page that lists the rankings for every seasonal show in plain site because again they just respond to the OP like their static number is the only one out there.
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>>144694638
Yeah. It's a really bad stalker thread. Not even worth shitposting in it for real.
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>>144693726
TF isn't an anime you fucking cunt
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>>144694560

Yes it does, but the way the posters are going on about it in this thread they seem to think it's final estimate is like 50K or something. Personally I'm surprised it isn't yet considering it's earlier release and how fanatical Japanese Urobuch scripti fanboys are and how fujobaity it is in keeping with Nitroplus standards.

Anyway right now I'm more interested in finding out if Macross Delta's first volume managed to be the one Spring show that gets over the 10K mark later tonight. It's been ranked #1 on Oricon every day since it went up but has virtually no competition this week aside from the Free movie which is going to sell the bulk of it's units through DVD anyway cause you know fujoshi and all. It's also a half week for Delta so that could hurt it's chances of crossing 10K in it's first week.
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>>144693806
It still airs every Friday
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>>144694935
>but the way the posters are going on about it in this thread they seem to think it's final estimate is like 50K or something
Literally nobody thinks that
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>>144694638
I wish owners of that tracking site blocked it for non-JP
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>>144694935
>Yes it does, but the way the posters are going on about it in this thread they seem to think it's final estimate is like 50K or something. Personally I'm surprised it isn't yet considering it's earlier release and how fanatical Japanese Urobuch scripti fanboys are and how fujobaity it is in keeping with Nitroplus standards.


You have to stop with that delusion, Aniplex guy.

Also, it doesn't matter how fujobait or otakubait it is, the fact that it's not 2d and it's dolls, means there is no real demographic for it.
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>>144690878
>Sunrise's entire cult was based on their mecha marketing
Not that guy, but please stop. You embarrassing yourself.
Jesus, typical Shaftfag in general.

>>144694062
>New age fans probably think their roles are reversed and Shaft is this mammoth giant studio that produces it's own hit franchises all the time.
True.
I think they not even aware that Sunrise, Toei, Pierrot, & I.G Port are the true giants.
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Hope all the anime from this season bombs. It's all garbage. Worst season in years.
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>>144693726
Every
Fucking
Thread
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>>144695303

I'll tell you what when people figure out what the fuck they are talking about I'll give more of a shit what you have to say about me being Aniplex guy because right now I don't care about that shit nor have I ever really. You should have figured that out already since you're such a great internet detective and all.
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>>144689333
>***,*15位/***,**9位 (**6,351 pt) Love Live Sunshine-Limited Edition
>***,*61位/***,*52位 (**6,084 pt) Love Live Sunshine
pt what means it means it sold 6k copy or what?
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>>144695699
Preorder estimates
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>>144695425

They're all bad seasons. Late night anime had a decent run for a few years from the turn of the decade to about early 2014 but has returned to the absolute ass middling potential market it was in the early 2000's pretty quickly in the last couple years with no signs of a revival any time soon. I don't blame more producers and studios for opting to go into making movies more and more now as the market potential is clearly much higher at the moment.

>>144695306

They have no fucking idea because all they watch is late night anime that was defined for them by shows like Monogatari, Fate/Zero, Madoka Magica and whatever other trash light novel adaptation happens to become popular because of the waifu character designs.
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>>144689333
>***,870位/***,800位 (***,844 pt) Amanchu!

it should work on emphasizing the lesbian side of things to get it to sell more
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>>144694213
>yfw Mai Nakahara is about to make another prominence run

Sunrise has to make plans on doing new Mai Hime series.
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>>144695828
>Fate/Zero
That's ufotable
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>>144695306
He's kind of right. Other than Cowboy Bebop, Gintama, Inuyasha, Accel World, Nichibros, Binbougami ga, Planets, Witch Hunter Robin, Kekkaishi, Scryed, Yakitate Japan, Steamboy, Sgt Frog, Love live, Crest of the stars, City Hunter, Aikatsu, Idolm@ster, and Dirty pair what has sunrise really done outside of mecha? Gundam is the only thing they're known for and they're just staying afloat enough for what, nine studios?
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>>144696609
All right... all right... but apart from Cowboy Bebop, Gintama, Inuyasha, Accel World, Nichibros, Binbougami ga, Planets, Witch Hunter Robin, Kekkaishi, Scryed, Yakitate Japan, Steamboy, Sgt Frog, Love live, Crest of the stars, City Hunter, Aikatsu, Idolm@ster, and Dirty pair... what has Sunrise done for us?
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>>144695844
>it should work on emphasizing the lesbian side of things to get it to sell more
How?
The mangaka makes explict point in her work that girs can't love girls like that and should support boys in their love for girls.
No one who likes yuri will ever buy it due to poor bait while knowing source material, all yuri fans are either buying LL or New Game this season.
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Love Live Sunshine will still suffer a 70% drop from the sales of Love Live S2.
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>>144696609
>>144696798
>Idolm@ster,
That's A-1 you dumbasses
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>>144696983
No shit. Who was expecting it to sell over 100k?
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>>144696983
Do you think Sunshine will automatic get a second season.

I heard Studio 8 is getting it's shit pushed in because of the Accel World movie
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>>144689333
How did Re:Zero do?
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>>144697332
>Do you think Sunshine will automatic get a second season.

It's more plausible especially if they're following the previous framework
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>>144697673
10k.
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>>144696798
Sunrise has done, Mai Hime/Otome, Tiger & Bunny, Cross Ange, Code Geass and Valverave.

All of them are worthy franchise potentials beside Gundam and LoveLive.
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I have a fear of dolls... that's why I haven't watched it.
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>>144696983
That's still 30k, you know.
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>>144697685
All I want is the Studio 8 2004 crew back again to do one more Mai series or other originals.

>>144698087
We are in the same boat....I have a fear of idols.
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>>144696983


Duhhh, it's the first season retard. The group isn't even formed yet. LL! sold well in season 2 because each girl already had a ton of fans and the group itself had a ton of fans.


If you compare Sunshine to the original's season 1 then Sunshine is doing much better.
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>>144698318
Didn't S1 start under 30k and actually had crazy legs and grew as it went along?
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>>144697673
>>144697692
○Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活 【全9巻】
巻数   初動      累計    発売日
     BD(DVD)   BD(DVD)
01巻 5,577(*,769) 7,423(1,036) 16.06.24 ※合計 8,459枚
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>>144697692
>>144698408
thanks
here's an anime reaction face
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Sunshine is projected to reach 50K for its first season. Do you people realize that's a MASSIVE hit for a first season show?
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>>144698408

Old numbers. It was 9193 last week, so it probably reach 10k this week or next.
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>>144698398
○ラブライブ!
初回限定版 【全7巻】
巻数  初動  2週計  累計  発売日
01巻 18,429 22,404 35,130 13.03.22

Yes

>>144698533
Anybody who thinks Sunshine won't be a hit is just shitposting
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>>144698567
Okay but it's not 10k now is the important thing
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Save for LoveLive! (which was expected) the rest of the shows are doing LIKE CRAP.

Wtf is going on this season? why such low sales?
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>>144698694
Look at the season. Does anything in it look like "yeah people are going to buy this?" The only one that does is Quality Code and it's so fucking awful that not even Japan is giving the time of day.

I mean there's also the fact that it's the Summer season and usually Summer is shitty in general
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>>144698839


New Game is great.
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>>144698533
>for a first season show
Are you implying that LL Sunshine is under the same conditions as LL s1? It's not a new franchise anymore. It's fucking Love Live. Do you really believe it has such high rank because new girls, their music and anime itself are so good?
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>>144689333
>Literally only Love Live is selling
The anime industry is ded
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>>144698918
It's still SoL adaptation shit with /u/ bait, the same as the other shits from other seasons that haven't done well
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>>144689333
What about 91 Days?
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>>144689333

Fuck off OP. Never make a stalker thread again.
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>>144698533
>Do you people realize that's a MASSIVE hit for a first season show?
It literally has "Love Live" in its title.
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>>144699231

You sound like a boring as fuck neckbeard.
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>>144699282
>**2,237位/**1,895位 (***,*65 pt) [*,**0予約] 2016/10/26 91Days VOL.1 [Blu-ray]
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>>144699282
>**2,237位/**1,895位 (***,*65 pt) [*,**0予約] 2016/10/26 91Days VOL.1 [Blu-ray]
Ded as ever though it may be picking up a bit, at least it's not down to the 25k ranks anymore.
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Has macross released the first vol yet?
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>>144699231
>***,*15位/***,**9位 (**6,351 pt) Love Live Sunshine (idolshit)
>***,*28位/***,*29位 (**8,348 pt) Macross Delta (idolshit)
>***,135位/***,*99位 (**1,297 pt) B-PROJECT (idolshit)
Where were you when idolshit saved anime?
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>>144699439
>saved
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>>144699474
Well, at least we can hope that some of the money earned from idolshit will be channeled into worthwhile shows.
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>>144699439
>>***,*28位/***,*29位 (**8,348 pt) Macross Delta (idolshit)
Hey hey, that's idol/mecha/romcomshit

Also I don't think B-Project is going to do that well
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Honestly it's just sad that something with a plot as uncreative as Love Live is gonna sell over 40k most likely. Don't nips have the self-awareness to realize they're watching the same shit as LL S1,
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>>144699544
Perhaps they actually didn't watch LL S1, and are newcomers.
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>>144699215
/thread
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>>144699593
No way. This franchise is the same as Aikatsu. It lives on name alone even if you change the cast.
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Is Alderamin on preorder yet?
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>>144699421

we will get numbers in like 11-12 hours.
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>>144700270
>**3,301位/**2,870位 (***,*16 pt) [*,**0予約] 2016/09/28 「ねじ巻き精霊戦記 天鏡のアルデラミン」 vol.1 <初回仕様版>【Blu-ray】
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>>144699524
More likely the money will just be channeled into even more idolshit, see LL and LL Sunshine.
And it'll repeat on and on until even the idolfags get sick of it.
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>>144689333
It's so unreal that every anime in the shit sales section is better than thundershit fantasy. Man, the only thing worthwhile about that crap is the doll
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>>144699975
>>144699215
Wrong, anime is just less reliant on disc sales due to streaming (and a BOOMING overseas market).
Chinese streaming websites buy anime licenses every season for every popular show. These websites are not small fish like Crunchyroll, they are sponsored by massive IT giants like Tencent or Baidu.
And then there is Netflix and Amazon, more keen on just producing anime for their library. They pay huge amounts for traditional licenses (which are non permanent), and original shows are still expensive as hell. Anime in contrast is extremely cheap to produce, thus a good financial investment even if viewership isn't great.
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>>144700508
Shit opinion
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>>144700508
You seem awfully mad, do dolls trigger you?
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>>144700655
Fitting for a shit thread though.
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>>144689333
>(wow really?)
Why are you sound like a MAL fag? This is the worst stalker thread i've seen
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>>144700665
The only worth thing avout it's the doll. You're delusion if you think that shit is worth anything. Also it's sold like shit, sorry about that, chink
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>>144700655
Well then, tell us something that make thundershit fagtasy better than these anime.
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>>144700603
>Streaming ever amounting to anything in a niche medium

The biggest evidence streaming isn't worth shit for anime is that there hasn't been any publisher who mentioned any strong profits from streaming that could rival BD sales.
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>>144700855
>inb4 refreshing
Man, it's like people here never seen any doll show before
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>>144700894
Assclass got a S2 because of streaming.
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>>144700789
The shows sell reliably 10-20k per episode in Taiwan, and the usual shows have significantly lower production value than Thunderbolt.
Thunderbolt is designed not just to enter the Japanese, but also the Mainland Chinese market, from the buzz its generated (not talking about the west, it was never intended for the west), it can definitely be viewed as a success already. The fact that's its even ranking decently in Japan is a extra suprise
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Why does chink shilling that doll show so much? Because it is the only thing that make them relevance?
>need help from nips to promote your own shit
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>>144700855
It's actually good. Nothing to do with the dollshit at all, it's just good. It's being produced closely by Nitro+ members and it shows, shit has been highly entertaining and you fucking wish there's a single anime this year with such good setting, plot and characters/character design.
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>>144700953
Should i give a shit about taiwan(china)?
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>>144700603
You're greatly overstimating streaming license costs. It's 100k-200k dollars top for an average shitty show. China and US are basically the only 2 overseas markets.
And streaming in Japan is still extremely unpopular. Why would you buy something online if you can watch anime legally on your TV or just record it and watch at any time?

>>144700943
You mean because its manga is popular as fuck?
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>>144701018
>good setting, plot and characters/character design
Oh man, this shit make narutu plot look like literature in comparison
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>>144701018
This is the definition of delusion
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>>144700894
You are fucking retarded, just go read the Toei annual report (if you understand business that is). They've had huge rises in profits due to dramatic rises in overseas licensing profits.

Streaming its just one of the monetization methods, but other lucrative ones including mobile gaming, which developers are incredibly desperate for good IP to help them break out from the mold of 1000000 competitors. Naruto games can top Chinese mobile app charts, and that means millions daily income.

Even smaller IPs are still highly valuable. Just look at the craze for Pokemon go, without the pokemon IP, it wouldn't have been nearly as successful.
Of course most anime are not comparable to Pokemon, but Nintendo's stock rose 20 billion USD in market value due to this one game. Even 1% of this value is a huge boon to a regular anime studio.

Anime in terms of market conditions is an absolute golden age, only surpassed by the Japanese bubble era.
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>>144701131
>>144701173
>mad as fuck and trolling with no arguments
As expected
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>>144701018
>plot
Stop it. But truly, nitro plus really make the doll bearable compared to these horrid chink doll design
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>>144701059
You are talking about commercial success ('sold like shit in Japan'), and this is a stalker thread, then of course its valid to mention overseas sales.
No box office thread anywhere is complete without mentioning China these days, anime is going to be very similar soon.
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>>144701243
>mastertrollingstalker1420
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>>144701275
I mean it's nothing amazing and a really straightforward plot so far but there won't be the usual "the humans did it" urobushit this time, and the pacing is good
There wasn't even the usual butcher exposition, it was quick and on point.
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>needing Japan to promoted their shit
Truly Jap greatest bitch
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>>144699421
Released the 22nd
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>>144701417
No one want to look at the dolls talking to each other, they just want fighting shounen shit and they got what they want. I think it's fine shounen wuxia shit but the taiwanese on /a/ make it like it's the second coming of jesus something
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>>144701543
Kek really? I haven't seen the threads.
But dolls talking to each other isn't so different than talking 2D heads.
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>>144701232
>Toei
No, you're retarded. You can't compare Toei with an average studio making late night anime. Also Toei also sells licenses for home video. Those cost a lot, unlike streaming licenses. And no one is going to buy physical distribution license for an average battle harem #432.

We got lots reports on anime industry with some income estimates. Streaming and overseas licensees are still a small percentage compared to physical sales, merchandise, music CDs and royalties.
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>>144701066
You mention China and the US as if they are just 'two countries', they are #2 and #1, with still rapidly growing consumer spending and confidence, how many companies dream to have a loyal fanbase in both countries? And anime studios have done it without even consciously trying.
China is now even experiencing a animation boom, since 2015, the occasional big 'Chinese cartoon' (literally, domestically produced) can rival Chinese blockbusters in terms of box office (in the tunes of 1-200 mil USD)
Just for one example, Alibaba is putting hundreds of millions into animation production, and a significant part of this money will flow to Japan for production assistance and consulting. Thunderbolt is just the beginning of something much greater.

Even Netflix took many years to get off the ground, the current incomes for overseas are very promising for a still rather immature business model.
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>>144701232
Why are you mentioning mainstream IPs that don't even depend on BD sales? You know the type of anime we're talking about here, right?

Streaming can't replace BD sales for late night anime that depend on BD sales, this is still fact.
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>>144700894
You're living in 2010 if you don't think streaming has become an actual venture for the anime studios these days
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>>144701655
The fuck are you talking about? It's taiwan and japan shit and no other chink shit involved in it
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>>144701655
Is this faggot for real?
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>>144701618
2D heads still have mouth flaps and facial expressions atleast. The dolls on the other hand look cheaply made and the expressions never changes, mouths and eyes just close intermittently. It's all too uncanny
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>>144701718
It's not worth shit in this industry, that anime producer who went on a rant on twitter about why anime doesn't sell BD said so herself that they still can't make streaming a primary source of profit.
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>>144701618
They think this show will make weeaboo and people who watch it become taiwaboos and not watching jap stuff anymore
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>>144701644
Most studios are not like Toei, true.
But Toei is doubling their profits right now, and experiencing 15-20% CAGR.
Even if usual studios only have a 5% CAGR, and a 20-30% boost in profits, its still massive for their survival and prosperity. Many companies in Japan do not experience growth at all due to stagnant domestic economy, and the success of animation will be a stimpack to attract more young talent (Toei also needs animators in case you forgot)
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>>144701655
>Netflix, Alibaba
There is a big difference between funding anime (and being part of production comitte) and just buying streaming license. First thing can get a studio lots of money because companies fund the anime before it's even made, they invest into it and get some additional rights and shares. The second option (streaming license) is cheap as fuck.
But very few anime are lucky enough to get Netflix, Amazon or other big company to fund them. Usually studios just sell streaming license rights to CR, Funi or some chinses sites. And as I said earlier it's usually 100k-200k for a shitty 1 cour show.
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FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING IDOLSHIT
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>>144701739
A Ghibli style Chinese anime film just earned 100 mil USD in China. It used a lot of outsourced animation, and judging from critical reception, it could use a lot more screenwriting assistance, can you see the parallels with Thunderbolt right now?
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>>144702057
No please, we need this safespace.
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>>144701999
Netflix is definitely on committees (even fumination and crunchyroll occasionnaly are, they just aren't publicly shown on the sponsor frames), how do you think Ajin is getting those decent budget productions, and more seasons despite selling like shit? You can pull the boost manga sale argument, but how can you explain Blame then? More anime is being made thanks to foreign committee members.
Big Chinese investors like Alibaba don't buy anime outright, they'd rather buy the Japanese core talent and ship them to the production centers in China, since China already has significant experience in outsourced animation.
How does this benefit anime? Well a greater demand for anime staff leads to greater pay, which attracts more new talent, simple economics really.
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how do i read this
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>>144702069
So they make bootleg ghibli now huh?
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>>144702057
It's either idols, gay sports or cute girls in various situations, rarely is there something in between.
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>>144702434
Its called Bigfish Bogona.
Its animation quality is actually pretty comparable to big anime movies, though inferior to Ghibli.
What its lacking is scriptwriting, which came off as heavily pretentious to many audience members, and the controversy even attracted the attention of the highest level of state media.
So you may see more Japanese scriptwriters working in China in the future, not Butcher though as the censorship there is too extreme.
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>>144693611
>nude artwork
Wow fast. We haven't even got to a hotspring's episode yet
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>next season will see antoher idolshit show outselling everything by a large margin
I want off this ride
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>>144701894
>taiwaboos
What the fuck?
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>this is the first time Taiwain is relevance in anything
>but it still mediocre
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>>144702870
Next season is Tourabu domination.
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>Yuri anime will reclaim it's dominance

2016-2017 years is gonna be sweet my friends.
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How is jojo selling?
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>>144699370
>>144699420
>>**2,237位/**1,895位 (***,*65 pt) [*,**0予約] 2016/10/26 91Days VOL.1 [Blu-ray]
Holy shit. Joker Game selling point in the last season was a miracle then.
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>>144690192
Yeah, a heterosol writer.
That's why Aria sold very well when it was released as BDs, plus back when it aired. Because it wasn't yuritrash.
Currently Amanchu (a man kiss) is selling like trash because there's too much yuri bait, and yurishit doesn't sell. But when the men come into spotlight and sol kicks in it will go up.
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>>144690242
Good, they can fuck off then because they are secondary scum.
Shirou is important to Illya and it's named after her, so fucking deal with it yurishitter.
By Kaleid fan you mean secondary yurifag, you finally got what was coming to you.

The series is bombing because it's a shit spinoff to begin with, ruining Illya's character.
Fate only sells well due to Saber.
Take away all the secondary yurishits buying it, that equals not a lot.
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>>144689728
>LL
>yuri
Stick to the manga retard.
The only reason LL sells is for idolfag otaku buying their lottery concert tickets.

>>144690878
>what is MaiHime
Spotted the yurishit crossboarder.

>until they decided to get rid of the supposedly male MC
>my favorite studio was the first to make an all girls SOL where males don't exist!
My fucking sides, just kill yourself yuriscum.
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>>144689728
>women
>conquering anything
Maybe on degenerate and retarded male's money (idolfags), then maybe so.
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>>144689728
Back to your containment.
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>>144689885
Because it's fucking garbage so far.
All the shitty yuri baiting, I expected a good hetsol and so did the nips.

I guess some mangaka's can be one hit wonders.
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>>144704760
Made me chuckle.
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>>144694046
>saving the yuri industry
Saving the idol industry. Also just LL, MaiHime is dead.
Alternatively you could've said yuribait industry, but the generic Kirara adaptations every season have that covered.

If you wanted to save the yuri industry you should've bought Sakura shit.

>>144695844
Hmm let's see
Aria sold amazingly well, has a strong fanbase, the BD rerelease sold amazingly well.
It's a hetsol. Boys are strong recurring characters and the girls want the D.

Amanchu is bombing, while it's been 100% yuribait so far.
I wonder why, yes that lesbian side is going to get it to sell more for sure anon!
Kill yourself deluded yurishitter, yuri doesn't sell.
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>>144698533
Yes, I'm sure that first BD will sell!
While the idol otaku buy 10 copies of it for the concert tickets and then trash it.
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>>144698918
>generic yurishit adaptation (no boys exist so purityfag otaku can watch without feeling offended) from kirarashit for this season is good
Lowest standards in the world.
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>>144703883
>Yuri anime will reclaim it's dominance
Yuribait anime won't reclaim it's dominance because it never lost is, only this time in idol flavor for everything.
Fixed.

Yuri anime is Sakura trick and Yuri Kuma, which isn't reclaiming anything anytime soon.

>2016-2017 years is gonna be sweet my friends
Kill yourself sc/u/m. If by sweet you mean your kind will be the most loathed fanbase ever to exist, then yes.
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>>144705033
Just from selling its first anime single Sunshine will earn more money than anime like Kiznaiver from selling its all 6 volumes of BD/DVDs.
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>>144689333
>***,793位/***,871位 (***,167 pt) ReLife

this is not ok
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I don't understand why Amanchu does poorly and Flying Witch did so well.
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>>144705640
FW was actually comfy and fun
Amanchu is boring and is yuribaiting for no reasons.
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>>144705556
it's because they did some sketchy let's stream n' shit
But still AOTS
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>>144705691
I think I'm going to have to add "yuribait" and "yuribaiting" to my filters until the season is over.
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>>144705640

it has an annoying toot toot mc
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>>144705691
>Amanchu is boring and is yuribaiting for no reasons
Read the fucking manga fucking dumbfuck
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I dropped Amanchu because the pace is in the decimal zone, is it worth retaking the tiabiruy
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>>144705866
No, go back to your battle shounenshit
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>>144689333
>Thunderbolt fantasy

What the flying fuck
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>>144705974
>shounen
>fast pace
>ever
made me reply
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>>144705974
>shounen
>not going slow pace for ages then fast pace for a few chapters then back to snail pace for god knows how long
At least shitpost coherently
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>complain about Amanchu pacing
>mfw Aria pacing
Also why does people calling it's Aria ripoff? It from the same mangaka for fuck sake
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>>144705226
Don't worry your hate is our gain my friend. You fujoshi faggots will taste our y/u/ri futa cock.
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>>144705820
Are you saying both the yuri and diving are real? If any of those are not go fuck yourself.
There's nothing worse than shows that don't deliver.
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>>144706382
>yuri
It's not yuri show, please fuck off. Who the fuck telling you it's a yurishit show?
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>>144706449
So it doesn't deliver.
As expected.
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>>144704347
91 days is too edgy.
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>>144706449
You have to dumb as shit to not spot the obvious baiting the show did.
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>>144706382

>yuri
It's not yuri show, please fuck off. Who the fuck telling you it's a yurishit show?
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>>144704948
>MaiHime is dead.
It ain't dead while Mai Nakahara still lives in the realm.

While her career still going strong while great service with Thunderbolt Fantasy Sunrise might have something planned with the Mai-franchise.
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>>144689333
Wasn't Danganronpa like really high last week? I thought I saw it being 100-something at one point because it has double the episodes or event tickets or some shit. I don't actually know, but I thought I saw something.
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>>144706615
Are you saying both the yuri and diving are real? If any of those are not go fuck yourself.
There's nothing worse than shows that don't deliver.
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>>144706615
Yes it's not a yuri show and yet still bait for it, that's the issue retarded dingus.
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>>144706660
The manga is the same shit until you prove otherwise m8. I won't read shit.
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>>144689333
>***,292位/***,292位 (***,432 pt) Thundershit Fagtasy
>okay
kek as expected of chink, they doesn't know what are they talking about
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>>144705760
someone put a brown bag on it
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>>144706570
More buzzwords. How exactly is it edgy?
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>there are people out there who believe this is not yuri
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>>144707086
If they don't do the muppet faces, then it's not gay.
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---,---位/---,---位 ○ (---,--- pt) [*,**0予約] 16/10/04 16/07 【Amazon.co.jp限定】レガリア The Three Sacred Stars 1(早期購入特典:QP:flapper描き下ろしミニ色紙(ユイ)付) (全巻購入特典:「QP:flapper描き下ろし全巻収納BOX」引換シリアルコード付) [DVD]
---,---位/---,---位 ○ (---,--- pt) [*,**0予約] 16/09/28 16/07 【Amazon.co.jp限定】はんだくん vol.1(全巻購入特典:「完全描き下し 寝起きのはんだくんB2布ポスター」引換シリアルコード付) [DVD]
---,---位/---,---位 ○ (---,--- pt) [*,**0予約] 16/10/19 16/07 【Amazon.co.jp限定】DAYS 第1巻 初回限定版(全巻購入特典:「描き下ろし全巻収納BOX」引換シリアルコード付) [DVD]
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---,---位/---,---位 ○ (---,--- pt) [-,---予約] 16/09/28 16/07 モブサイコ100 vol.001<初回仕様版>【DVD】
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---,---位/---,---位 ○ (---,--- pt) [-,---予約] 16/09/28 16/07 【Amazon.co.jp限定】モブサイコ100 vol.001<初回仕様版>(各巻購入特典:「アニメイラスト描き下ろし缶バッジ」)(全巻購入特典: 「アニメイラスト描き下ろし全巻収納BOX」引換シリアルコード付)【DVD】
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>>144707195
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I just hope jannies will clean up all this ad hominem and poor quality posting. R-right?
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>>144706666
It was just released for preorder last week
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>>144707544
Janitors and mods are at school or work and don't have time to deal with 4chan. Their lives do not revolve 24/7 around a hobby-website.

After all, they do that shit for free.
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>>144700380
Will alderamin become like Rokka no sales?
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>>144706666
Hello, Satan-san.
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>>144689728
When was LL ever yuri?
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>>144708221
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>>144708334
Is there girls being romantic with girls?
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>>144708398
Is lesbian touching not yuri enough for you?
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where Qualidea Code sales?
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>>144708484
Not if it's just a token joke lesbian being touchy-feeling with girls.
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>>144708221
Yes, Sunrise Studio 8 always make great things with yuri relationships
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Can chink dollfuckers just fuck off to /tv/ already? This shit is live action puppeteering, not anime or manga.
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>>144708221
>Drama CD's had canon gay pairings
>a game that ouright shows that the girls are gay
Not to mention the canon gay songs
>Garasu no Hanazono (NozoEli)
>Storm in Lover (EliUmi)
>Anemone heart (KotoUmi)
>Zurui yo Magnetic (NikoMaki)

Even their promo arts are gay.
Pic related. The gifts are wrapped in the color of their partners
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>>144708484
>comedic molester lesbian
nobody takes them seriously. and it almost never is mutual.
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>>144696609
>>144696798
I don't know if you guys are being sarcastic but, none of those series can compare to Gundam, which is everything Sunrise is known for, before LL arrived

Also, Accel World and Mai-series are /m/ shit
And much of your samples are adaptations, not originals
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>>144710119
/a/ has been slow lately. it's not like we need the thread space for anything else.
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>>144711205
By that logic, I should be allowed to shit all over /i/ with random porn because it's even slower and "they don't need the thread space"

You fuck off to your appropriate board
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>>144711387
If you said /jp/ I might agree to some extent, but sending something to /tv/ is just sending it to die.
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>>144711544
If it keeps dying in its own relevant board, it simply means it isn't thread-worthy. Not an excuse to shit up the anime board though
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>>144693726
>Muse
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>>144711676
>shit up the anime board though
HAHAHAHAA

Tell that to me after you manage to clean the Jojo, Madoka and Monmusu threads.
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>>144711902
Correction: *further* shit up the anime board

At least the stuff you named actually belong here
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>>144712229
The shows do, the fanbases don't. You must be retarded if you somehow think crack-kun and his merry band of tripfags belong on /a/ more than some puppet fags who keep to themselves instead of infecting other shows' threads just because it has people talking about yuri pairings.
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>>144712373
I don't know who the fuck crack-kun is. I auto-anonymize trips.

Regardless of who they are, it doesn't change the fact that live action puppet show don't belong on /a/, or are you trying to say because some individuals shit up the place, others should be allowed to as well? Come on
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>>144711771
You cannot destroy us what you have created from the start
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>>144689333
puppet shit is not even anime
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This ride will never end.
Coming soon
-UtaPri
-EnStars
-Hop! Step
-Idol Memory

Waiting for an anime
-Idolish 7 (Number 3 Mobage on the charts)
-T7s (Usually 4 or 5)
-Million Live
-SideM
-Angel Festa
-Re;Stage
-School Star Dream
-8 beat story
-DMM's Idol War

And more...

How long will the Golden Age of Idol Anime last?

And that's not even counting all the other music anime that will be released. BanG_Dream soon.
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>>144709981
New Mai Hime series when Sunrise
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>>144712554
The discussion for the pupper shows were a hell lot more /a/ centric than fucking madoka /soc/ circlejerks.

>Regardless of who they are
HAHAHAAHA. So you're cool with redditors now, huh? Got it. So much for elitism.

>or are you trying to say because some individuals shit up the place, others should be allowed to as well?
No, I'm saying that you're not in any position to talk about shitting things up further when you can't even do shit about the bigger cancers lurking around.

>I don't know who the fuck crack-kun is. I auto-anonymize trips.
Prove that people who bash the puppet show is a newfag. Crack-kun isn't a tripfag, but people who have been on /a/ long enough knows who is because of his posts and has been around for at least 4 years or more.
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>>144712748
Why would I "be ok with redditors" when I don't even know the fact that he is one? Like I said, I don't keep up with your e-celebrity faggotry.

I don't do anything about Madoka and Jojo, nor do I intend to, because they absolutely 100% are anime and/or manga and actually do belong here, regardless of the people discussing them, unlike your shitty chink plastic toys show.
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So why dont all the studios just make Idol shows?
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>>144713095
then would be idol shows who dont sell

like Wake Up, Girls!
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>>144713095
Monopoly effect:
Diversity does not translate to variety but rather, natural selection

You can see this in harem right now.
There are so many of but only the 1% can survive past the Manabi line. So bad it was that there hasn't been any harem anime original since 2008.
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>>144712687
Soon
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>>144713095
No other studio really has the resources and patience to do what Sunrise did with Love Live
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>>144713095
Because you need to have the supporting media to sell. It's not enough to have the anime, you need shit ton of music CDs as well.
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>>144713095
occupying different niches makes things far less cramped than everyone squeezing into the same niche.
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>>144712934
Even more prove that you're bitching about things when you don't know what's going on.
1. Anti-crack isn't a redditor. The jojo fags are.
2. Actual anons who WANT to talk about Jojo can't, because it's populated by redditors and /co/
3. Monmusu is practically fanfiction.net

>regardless of the people discussing them
Basically, it's only bad if you don't like it, got it. You don't like TBF, so it's bad and you don't want it here. Jojo and Madoka is irrelevant to you, so it can be shit and detrimental to the board and it doesn't matter. Get this through your thick skull: those 3 are only /a/ related in name only. Content wise, they aren't, you filthy hypocrite.
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>>144713095
Because making idol anime is hard and risky as balls, while adapting another shitty isekai LN will guarantee you a bunch of sales from the LN fans.
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>>144713095
Anime industry on 2050, just don't kill yourself yet.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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