Best Anime of all time?

FMA: Brotherhood is the only series I've cared to watch more than once, so probably that one.

>>144647343
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is pretty high up

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Rozen Maiden was pretty good.

Reminder that best is always subjective and you're all wrong and you're all correct too

I think the movie Akira is the best anime movie ever made.

As for series I can't say.

NGE imo

NGE + EoE is arguably the best the medium has. Very few shows are narratively as strong or have as much thematic depth as NGE. It also has a tight plot as well as varied and suspenseful action set pieces.

>>144648443
Amen brotha.

Cory in the House is solid.

Bible Black

Bible Black

NGE without a doubt.
What's more interesting is what are the top 2-5?

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>>144647343
Shame on you gintama fags

>>144647343
Kara no Kyoukai

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Trigun

>rec thread
>>>/wsr/

Evangelion, Akira, Ghost in the Shell

>>144647343
Whatever your favorite is.

h-ha, right guys?

>>144649321
>Akira

>>144647343
Space Pirate Sera

>>144648443
>Very few shows are narratively as strong or have as much thematic depth as NGE. It also has a tight plot as well as varied and suspenseful action set pieces.
This is true

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Steins;Gate

(NGE is in my top 10 since everyone seems to be posting that and don't want to piss 'em off)

Code Geass should be pretty far up the list

Steins;Gate

>>144648857
Tatami, GitS, Lain, LOGH I guess.

>>144649219
Is it worth it to read Trigun. I watched it recently but wasnt interested enough to read it even though i know its crazy different.

>>144650887
>>144651469
Somefag
>>144651086
The two of you >>>/MAL/ please.

>>144647373
Why did you only watch Steins;Gate once?

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>>144647343
This one.

>>144648857
Cowboy Bebop at least.

>>144647343
The fact that no one has said Great Teacher Onizuka really makes me lose hope in humanity

>>144651951
Pretty good taste desu.

Neon Genesis Evangelion

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top3
NGE
Utena
Madoka Magika

>>144649094
overall quality / number of episodes = 7/10

>>144647343

NGE isn't good. It' just well directed.

Prove me wrong.

>>144651951
GTO was amazing, definitely one of favourites
If I had to have a number 1 it'd probably be out of these 5 (My top 5)
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Trigun
Cowboy Bebop
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
Full Metal Alchemist, both adaptations

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Definitely Gurren Lagann

Evangelion is a strong second though.

>>144652511
I position myself as the sole arbiter of objective taste and I enjoyed it

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Mobile Suit Gundam, NGE, Fullmetal Alchemist and Dragon Ball would be close to the best for me, however, MD Geist still exists so those can't really be number one.

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Shinsekai Yori is pretty neato if you're into psychological or sci-fi anime

>>144647343
>Please don't mention any hentai series.
But then only trash is left.

probably NGE

It's one of the very few stories that have stood the test of time,have survived long term merchandising,and influenced everyone that is in the animation industry.

When shit like Regular Show parodies NGE,it's a sign that the show has gone from anime,to cultural phenomenon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udeH8ghanXg

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Inferno Cop

>>144652706
How did you like Dragon Ball, I tried it and I hated it? What were the good points? I'm genuinely curious, no hate, you do you, I do me.

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>>144652738
>hear good things about this
>watch it
>3 episodes in "this is pretty okay, maybe even great"
>7 episodes in it was just mole-rat politics, dropped because I couldn't get into it
>why
maybe it drags in the middle, or maybe my taste is shit, who knows

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>>144648857
Except for Death Note, I haven't disliked a series I've seen yet. I consider story, audio, and visual when ranking these. The best ones either do all 3 very well or execute 2 of these perfectly. My top picks, in no particular order:

Ghost in the Shell
Gurren Lagann
Madoka
NGE
LotGH

Honorable Mentions:

Space Dandy
Samurai Champloo
Cowboy Bebop
Space Battleship Yamato 2199

Fun watch:
KLK

There's might be a couple more, but I've forgotten them.

>>144653229
Why'd ya dislike Death Note?

>>144651553
if you didnt like the anime you probably wont like the manga

>>144653363
Probably because of the snorefest second half.

>>144647343
why is shinji shorter than the girls?

I can't tell the irony from the actual plebs.

>>144653502
to fuel my femdom fantasies

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>>144653084
Lain has been on my watch list for a while, but the constant stream of people using it in reaction images has convinced me to keep putting it off. The show is ruined for me and I now associate it with shitposting morons.

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>mfw plebs don't know that Brain Powerd is a better version of Evangelion

Dang, the choices are REALLY entry-level around here, nothing wrong with that mind you these shows are recommended first and foremost for a reason but usually you see more diversity.

>>144648827

is this an hentai?

>>144653517
Only because you're so used to people desperately trying to tear down Evangelion when it has a ton of objectively great characteristics which make it hard to contest as one of if not the best anime of all time.

Just wait a few more posts. These people will flood in soon.

>>144653735
Then enlighten us with what you'd pick

>>144653735
Famous shows are famous for a reason. An incredible show doesn't just become obscure unless it has horrible luck with release dates or commercial funding or whatever problem.

>>144653749
kinda

The best anime of all time (not in any specific order except for the number 1 spot):

1) NGE
2) LotGH
3) The Tatami Galaxy
4) Serual Experiments Lain
5) Ghost in the Shell
6) Berserk (1997)
7) Haibane Renmei
8) Welcome to the NHK

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>>144653666
nice trips

but also watch lain, don't let my avatar-fagging get you down

>>144651951
I'm at ep 15 and it's not that funny . Is it going to get better just like gintama did ?

>>144653666
Appropriate, since it's essentially a show about memes.

>>144654042
No... are you bait?

>>144653363
I'll be surprised if the spoiler works. I dropped it in the second half. Story was its biggest strength, but even that relied on too many asspulls and out of nowhere twists. Still, it kept me hooked until Light got off scot free in season 2.[/spolier] After that, the plot with the corporation was just uninteresting.

How can an anime be good if only the lasts episodes and a sequel movie is something we can call good?

>>144653666
Then you really are missing out. Lain is extremely prophetic in its understanding of the impact the internet would have in the near future. It also handled its philosophical themes both eloquently and elegantly, casually referencing relevant texts (like Proust's In Search of Lost Time) and historical events that really enrich the series. But don't be intimidated by that. You can enjoy the show and recognize its brilliance even if you don't get all the references

>>144654249
That makes sense, Death Note was my first manga so I have nostalgia goggles when I think about it, but yeah it's a good starter anime/manga but only an average one for vetarans.

>>144654257
Rewatch it with all the hindsight of the following reveals

>>144647343
See
>>144649101

Let's take this for a twist, what's the most over hyped/rated animes.
Let's get a few of the main ones out of the way
Bleach, Naruto, Sword Art Online, The current Berserk anime was overhyped to hell

>>144654590
Everything ITT desu

Mirai nikki is one of my best

>>144654590
Overhyped/rated by /a/ or the anime community in general?

If the latter, it's definitely Gintama (it appears 5 times in the top 10 on MAL).

If the former, then I don't really know. For this season I'd have to say it's Re:Zero

>>144647504
Thanks Reddit

>>144654690
If being rational is being a part of Reddit, then I don't want to live on this planet anymore

I'm confused. If your guys are pretending for fun, you're hella good at it. I've never seen this many plebs in a single /a/ thread. It's like you don't have a single clue of the board culture and anime in general, it's really really weird - as if tomorrow you opened youtube and found it flooded with videos of people that insist that they just invented a new kind of communication, "being a youtuber"
Where did you guys come from, in this some kind of organized invasion?
What the hell is this.

>>144654852
Oh might senpai, tell us your favourite instead of shitposting like a fag

Cowboy bebop
EVA is boring as fuck

>>144654683
MAL IS SHIT they
1 gintama 2011
2 gintama 2015
3 gintama enchousen
4 gintama 2006
5 gintama movie 2
But they rated steins shit more than most of them

>>144647504
>>144654739
I hate relativism. It's so pointless. Yes everything is biased and it also boils down to personal enjoyment but there's an established criteria for what makes an anime good or not (yes you can even claim to debate the legitimacy of that criteria). We know what makes a good character vs what makes a bad one. We know what plot holes are or whether characters are behaving in ways that fit the character. There's a level of understanding that most can agree on that defines good writing. So please stop with the emphasis of subjectivity. It gets a conversation nowhere.

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>>144654852
Plebs are all around us. We just don't see them.

>>144654852
>muh board culture
What anime triggered you anon?
Are you mad that people have differing opinions on best anime?
How have you even lasted this long on this board?
>implications

>>144654852
Are you new? If anything I'm surprised at the lack of "2deep4u" posts about Eva. If anything people love to be contrarian here and just shitpost and bait all day.

>>144654967
You are correct, that's a reference to quality, this thread is unspecified so, it can go either way. Bad animation, bad soundtrack and bad plotlines all add up to create a bad anime. People can still like that anime, and it's their right, but it doesn't stop it being bad.

>>144654739
If being a boring fag who says "you're all winners :)" is being rational then I don't want you on my planet anymore either.

>>144655066
Stop relying on semantic to save your ass. Everyone new exactly what was implied by "best."

>>144655017
No, really, honestly I'm not triggered, I'm just confused.
I haven't seen anyone accusing Evangelion of being "too pretentious" yet, which used to be basically instantaneous.
People are openly talking about death note and making statements about "well, yes, maybe it's entry level" as if that wasn't obvious...?
People saying "Big three are overrated" as if they don't know there was a time when Naruto was literally forbidden here?

If I wanted to read normalfags talking about anime I'd go on a proper board, I only come here for the fun of seeing aspies getting mad at each other.

That's the whole point of my confusion. I'm not arguing your anime choice, just that the board has changed if this thread has been going on for so long without interference.

>>144655143
I was using quality, impact and longevity as criteria in my choices along with personal enjoyment of course. Also how am I saving my ass, it's not like I'm a public figure or some shit, I'm just a basement dwelling shitposter who enjoys talking about his favourite chinese cartoons.

>>144655266
Awww, that is genuinely adorable

>>144655266
So let me get this straight... You're complaining because of a lack of shit posting?

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NNB.

Simple and effective.

K-On! is the greatest of all works created by humans. Perhaps as good as a work of the Lord, Himself.

>>144655345
Lack of shitposting, extreme baseless elitism and hype aversion, to be perfectly clear.

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>>144647343
watamote it need a second season to become the greatest anime of all time.

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Without a doubt I'd have to say Brain Powerd.

>>144653711
It's not a "better version of Evangelion", it's just a better show. It shares a handful of themes and biological mechs but that's about it, the only reason the two are compared is because of the comments Tomino made in regards to Eva leading up to BP airing.

>>144655334
I want to believe that this whole thread is just bait & false flagging, as usual.
>MFW I thought the same when /b/ was flooded with white knights, MFW no face

>>144655396
>Himself
Herself*
Yamada be praised

>>144655678
I'm not baiting, nor false flagging

>>144655266
Ahah oh wow.
I see what you mean even if I myself like this suddenly honest discussion without the reflexive shitposting.
Sure, other's tastes are pedestrian compared to mine but you all feel the same.
The irony my dear anon, is that in this thead: you are the aspie.

>>144655627
>brain powerd
Am I being rused?
I seriously wanted it to be good even before it aired but I've never seen a review that didn't utterly shit on it.
The music is great but I'll be damned if /a/ tricks me again.
>boku no goddamn pico

>>144655997
It's not an easy show to digest by any stretch of the imagination but there's no other show I've seen in the medium with the level of thematic depth Brain Powerd has, let alone one that surpasses it.

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>>144656313
>still not sure if shitposting

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mostly due to personal reasons though

The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, broadcast order + E8 + movie.

I'm not even sure why I liked it this much, I've seen a lot of stuff that's objectively better, but none of that stuck in my heart and mind as much

>>144656415
I'm not, it's unironically my favorite animated series ever made.

>>144656415
Stick to babby's first mecha anime aka Evangelion if Brain Powerd is too deep for you

>>144657229
>>144657180
>>144656313
>>144655997
Is this a new meme?

>>144657275
Seems so.

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>>144657275
>>144657292
Found them

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Giant Robo: the animation
>Other versions than the first english dub need not apply

>>144657275
>>144657292
>>144657347
I'm legitimately not kidding though, I adore it.

>>144657388
Also an absolutely excellent candidate.

>>144654739
Nothing worse than being a guy that is neither this or that just in the middle spot lifeless and grey

>>144657347
>The holy trinity
>But there's four of them

>>144657441
Brain Powerd has a 6 on MAL, it can't be good.

>>144657475
Shh
He's trying a new lure

>>144657441
Alright anon, just for you I'll try the first ep.

>>144657573
Now I'm struggling to tell whether or not you're kidding.

>>144657660
Hope you enjoy it but as I said it's very difficult to digest. I can at least guarantee you won't have seen much else like it.

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>>144647343
Probably Ashita No Joe 2 or UY.
Dezaki for Joe along with Oshii and Yamazaki with UY did a perfect timless product and surpassed the original material which itself is fantastic.
Besides how influential they were on the animation department and even made the popular tropes everybody would follow even to this day.

>>144657734
It's not by any means foolproof but since MAL tends to overhype the shit out of any show in existence, when an anime drops below 7 it's almost always guaranteed to be shit.

NGE is overhyped as fuck. The newest movies are pretty good though. Looking forward to the last one if it ever finally gets released..... I don't care about popular opinion on the board. I still really love Steins;Gate. My recent favorites include kill la kill and re:zero.

>>144657734
>at least guarantee you won't have seen much else like it.
That's a gold star in my book regardless of how shit it turns out to be.

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>>144658149
It's surprising that the masterpiece called Steins;Gate still isn't taken seriously on /a/. Maybe it's not old enough yet.

>>144658149
6/10. Decent start, got way too obvious by the end.

>>144647343
I'd say eva..

GTO is my favorite. I still haven't watched too many and am working through Stein's Gate now.
Rune Soldier best comedy, of course.

>>144658232
I think liking the movies made it too obvious.

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>My top 5

Monogatari Series
Code Geass
Yuru Yuri
TTGL
Madoka Magika

>>144654967
>I hate relativism

That's relative to you. Thanks for the blog.

Paprika
Although any of his movies are up there.
I find it odd that so many people put a series and not a movie as their choice.

The holy trinity of Steins Gate, FMA brotherhood and Clannad AS

>>144658418
I don't even know any good movies. It was Akira, Ninja Scroll and Ghost in the Shell at school and then no chinese cartoons for years.

>>144658418
A good series has a longer running time than a movie so the wait and speculation builds a deeper emotional connection.
>that's my take on it at least

Anyways, akira and nausicaä are simply the best

>>144658448
Forgot Gintama. In reality it is a holy tetralogy

>>144658234
>>144647343
you need to 18 to post on 4chan, and samefagging is looked down upon. sage.

>>144658207
It is my favorite anime ever made but I can totally understand most peoples points about it. I can see how people could think it started slow among other things

>>144658547
Now a days a series is usually 12 episodes at about 20 minutes after credits to be about 4 hours vs a 2 hour movie. Not really a substantial difference compared to the quality of production difference.

>>144658652
100% longer is a big difference.
Anyways, enjoying something over time rather than in one sitting will leave a deeper impression.
As I said:
>opinions

>>144655396
This.
Still hoping for a death devil prequel.

>Comedy
Nichijou
>Action
Code Geass
>Drama
Clannad
>Romance
Oreimo
>Fantasy
Record of Lodoss War
>SoL
Shirobako

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>>144654852
>not believing that /a/ likes Evangelion when there are multiple threads 24/7 365 and 4.0 will probably dominate make up half of the threads when we get a trailer or solid news

Of all the things said in here, you find this the most unbelievable?

>>144658879
he is a special snowflake. ignore him

>>144651606
>watching garbage two times through
Why haven't you fucked off to your home (reddit) already

>>144658879
Forgive him. He's just new or naive enough to take everything posted here on /a/ at face value.

>>144658946
this faggot again. wasnt even my post but you sir are a fag. accept it

>>144649219
>>144652525
>Trigun
Is this a meme? Why do people revere this series so much? It's just a serviceable action series with a childish "morality play" aspect.

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Paranoia Agent is badly underrated

>>144659113
Maybe they're not joyless faggots?

>>144659152
Paranoia Agent is amazing. Great art, excellent OP, good story and characters.
I like the story behind it too. Kon had just finished a movie and looked around and said, "Hey while we're all already together let's make a tv show."

NGE

>>144659113
Anon is probably from Italy or some other country where Trigun was aired when there weren't many alternatives available except old shonen shows

>>144659152
It was really good until the last two episodes or so

there was basically no mystery left and all the psychological stuff became real magic which was stupid

>>144659113
Trigun was great. Great heart, humour and pathos. I'm not surprised some put it at no 1. And I'm not surprised others are too edgy to see these qualities.

>>144659457
>real magic
I'm going to need you to explain what you mean by real magic.

I think The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya is the best anime MOVIE ever made

>>144659573
I mean the story should have stayed a psychological analysis, leaving the viewer guessing what was real and what was a product of the characters imagination. But in the end though, it turned out all the crazy stuff we saw was real and it felt lazy.

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>>144647343
>all these replies to this thinly veiled rec thread

>>144659717
Ok that's fair.
Did it explain how the suicide club people were tied into the whole mess?

NGE as a show was amazing for it's time. Modern standards, I believe it still holds up pretty well. EoE however,stands the test of time as the greatest animated movie of all time

>>144647343
Berserk

>>144659822
I don't think so, but i could be wrong

either way, it was my favorite episode of the series, and its standalone so you can watch it without even knowing the series

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Since everyone's saying Akira and NGE, I'll go full contrarian and say Patlabor.

In all objectivity it is Hunter X Hunter 2011. characters, animation, plot, themes, chara designs, world building. Everything was perfect.

>>144658294

>simultaneously good taste and shit taste at the same time

Amazing, we've found a living paradox.

>>144659796
This thread has more constructive and useful discussion than 90% of threads.

>>144654967
This is the most retarded post I've seen today. I even thought it was a copypasta at first.

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OFFICIAL OBJECTIVELY GREAT ANIMU POWER RANKINGS

1a. ARIA
1b. Non Non Biyori
3. Azumanga Daioh
4. Kino no Tabi
5. Neon Genesis Evangelion
6. Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica
7. K-ON
8. Clannad After Story
9. Spice and Wolf
10. The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya
11. Sora no Woto
12. Hidamari Sketch
13. Sketchbook: Full Color's
14. Mushishi
15. Toradora
16. Cowboy Bebop
17. Mononoke
18. Haibane Renmei
19. Nichijou
20. Shirobako

...

9001. Dragon Ball Z

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>>144660306
Not bad.

>>144659946
Shit nigga, patlabor 2 might be my favourite movie ever.

>>144660183
I didn't post that randomly. It was a reply to some incredibly stupid posts.

How is saying "It's all subjective. Everything is right and wrong" any way insightful.

It isn't. It's self evident and eliminates a possibility of discussion.

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pretty stupid to crown one as the best, but Ping Pong saved anime for me

>>144654967
sadly, estabilished criteria are relative and subjective too. There is no way to escape that shit. Plot Holes aren't mathematical fallacies or physical impossibilities. A show all about plot holes could be made and it still could be good. There is really no escape nor relief, have a nice day.

>>144660734
>It isn't. It's self evident and eliminates a possibility of discussion
No it doesn't. Opinions cannot be verified, that's true. It's the one thing that separates them from facts. That does not mean that all opinions are well-informed. People can have shitty opinions and this can be discussed.

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honorable mention

>>144647343
I've figured it out guys. It's over. We don't need to fight anymore.

1. Texhnolyze
2. Hyouge Mono
3. Legend of the Galactic Heroes
4. Paranoia Agent
5. The Tatami Galaxy
6. Gosenzosama Banbanzai
7. Aku no Hana
8. Kuchu Buranko
9. Serial Experiments Lain
10. Diamond is Unbreakable (in the future)
11. Katanagatari
12. Shinsekai Yori
13. Fantastic Children
14. Kemono no Souja Erin

>>144661389
1/14 bad taste

>>144661518
What's yours? I take no offence to your rating of my list btw

>>144661599
1. K-On!
2. who cares at this point

>>144661680
K-On! is pretty awesome ya

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>>144660306
>Sora no Woto is better than Cowboy Bebop

>>144661978
Well, I mean, yeah. It has more cute girls and they do cuter things. C'mon, man.

>>144661978
A perfectly valid opinion. Take off your nostalgia goggles.

>>144662058
>A perfectly valid opinion.
That's objectively false.

>>144662058
It's not valid to like Sora no Woto in any way

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>>144662208
It was AOTY 2010.

>>144662375
No it wasn't

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obvious answer

>>144647343
Grave of the Fireflies

>>144662375
And it's not even close to CB

>>144662455
yeah i like obvious answer as well 11/10

>don't mention hentai
>posts Eva

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>>144659839
The problem with EoE is you cannot judge it as a standalone work. Viewed outside the context of the series, it makes no sense whatsoever. It is no doubt a quality work, but for animated movies I'll go nominate
Wings of Honneamise. Incredible creativity, world building and a compelling coming of age story that doesn't need serialized episodes to back it up. That said, I'm a sci-fi nut with a limited number of anime movies under my belt.

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>Ctrl+F "Outlaw Star"
>0 results

Plebs, all of you.

>>144647343
>Literally a fucking rec thread.

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>>144647343
Maybe not an universal opinion but I think this is the pinnacle of elegant world building and interesting character drama.

Boku no Pico Academia

Mods, just kill this shitty thread and ban every fucking one, fucking niggers

>>144654690
>duhh hurr i don't like reddit, do i fit in now guys?
but seriously, fucking kill yourself faggalo

>>144648443
This.

Boku no Pico. The payoff and themes are much deeper than anything Ano the hack can write.

>>144664195
>reddit apologists

>>144664226
>niggers

>>144647343
Giant Robo
Cowboy bebop
NGE

>>144655345
This entire thread is shit, kill yourself nigger.

>>144647343
>>144647691
>>144648443
>>144648857
>>144652204
>>144652867
>>144658234
>>144659364
>>144659839
All these anons with correct taste.

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>>144647343
>Evangelion
>Gurren Lagann
>Shinsekai Yori
>Oreimo
>FLCL
>Clannad
>The Tatami Galaxy
>Welcome to the NHK
Any would work.

>>144659152
Kon's shittiest work fucking MAL, leddit, and crossboarders.

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Now that we are all done joking around, we can all agree that K-On!! is the 最高のアニメ right?

>>144659796
>thinly

>>144660157
Drink bleach nigger.

>>144654852
/a/ is dead
Seriously though how did so many newfags with shit and entry level taste get here exactly at the same instant in this thread?

newfag here, what is a rec thread?

>>144665289
Any thread not about waifus or a specific show.

>ctrl+F
>Pico
>3 results
What the fuck

Cardcaptor Sakura
Future Boy Conan
K-On!
Macross
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Revolutionary Girl Utena
Sailor Moon
Space Dandy
Space Runaway Ideon
Zettai Shounen

>>144650887
Wasn't this show filled with shitty characters? I haven't seen it, but i heard really good and horrible thing about it.

>>144658149
>the new movies are pretty good though
I know it's bait, but you didn't have to make it THAT obvious

>>144647343

Eva or Legend of the Galactic Heroes.

>>144666293
>i can't form my own opinion so I have to ask other retards on a taiwanese commercial board what to watch

I'll post my favorites

Anime

>Cowboy Bebop
TV · 1998

>Yojouhan Shinwa Taikei
TV · 2010

>Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
TV · 2009

>Neon Genesis Evangelion
TV · 1995

>Dennou Coil
TV · 2007
>Nichijou
TV · 2011

>SpaceDandy 2nd Season
TV · 2014
Copypasted my MAL favorite list (i only use to have a record of the anime i watched)
I also love Kino's Journey, but i haven't finished it yet.

>>144666488
I am terribly sorry for not wanting to spend time on a shitty show and wanting to see other peoples opinions about it

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>>144647343
Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam

>>144665845
You're pretty good at counting

>>144666293
The characters are far better than the pacing

Also NGE is riddled with problems. It's a great show, but way too highly regarded here

>>144666652
>NGE is riddled with problems
Such as?

1. Cowboy Bebop
2. NGE
3. Steins;Gate
4. Monster
5. Trigun
6. Serial Experiments Lain
7. Paranoia Agent
8. NHK
9. FLCL
10. Ergo Proxy

I haven't watched FMA yet tho everyone rates that. I also love Samurai Champloo as much as Cowboy Bebop but don't know where to put it in my list. Probably my favorite tho

Currently watching Baccano and it's really good. Probably put it up there after I get done

>>144666652
Problems like what? The only real problems in my opinion are Kaworu and the lack of an actual ending.

>>144666666

>>144666753
There aren't any, he's just a memer.

>>144666759
>>144666544
Watch more.

>>144653943
I really liked Beserk, I haven't read the manga, but the anime is objectively not well produced. The animation and sound design are pretty awful most of the time.

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Mushishi is pretty nice too

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>>144666768
>and the lack of an actual ending.
>he didn't watch End of Evangelion

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>>144666834
Of course i did, but NGE and EoE are two separated things

>>144666805
I've watched plenty, baby

>>144666895
Yeah man Fellowship of the Ring was a pretty good book, shame about that lack of an ending though.

>>144666895
Not really. EoE is basically just the ending as it was originally planned. You can't really take EoE as it's own thing, it depends immensely on the series.

>>144666950
No you haven't.

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>>144666834
People seem to forget that NGE and EoE are seperate entities.

EoE is great, I won't argue that, but all of the problems of the series and its crap ending don't magically go away.

>Also worst girl detected

>>144666955
The movie makes up for the NGE ending (which i really liked, tho) but NGE is it's own thing amd it didn't have a proper ending, you need some kind of closure even if there's going to be a sequel.

>>144666999
Nice trips and I have. Sorry bud, I know what I like and what I consider the best.

>>144666994
That doesn't change the fact that the original ending was incomplete, a flaw is a flaw even if it's direct sequel fixes it.

>>144647343
another lady innocent.

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>>144666805
>claiming Filipino flipbook is devoid of issues

Wew
Lad

>>144666999
>triple six triple nine
Nice

>>144667022
>>144667096
>>144667150
EoE and NGE are not separate things. EoE is more or less what was originally planned for the conclusion of the show and any fan of the show would tell you that watching NGE without seeing EoE is an incomplete experience. The opposite is also true.

And even assuming that is a flaw, one big flaw does not make a show "riddled" with flaws.

>>144667150
It's an alternate ending, not a direct sequel.

Akira
Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
NGE
Grave of the Fireflies
Paprika

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>>144667242
If it is an alternate ending then the series should stand on its own. You can't even keep up your own retarded narrative(just like NGE)

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>>144647343

>>144667242
You are contradicting yourself by saying that NGE and EoE are not separated but at the same time saying that EoE is an alternative ending.
In my opinion, episode 25 y 26 take place during the movie, but that doesn't mean that we should put the two things together because.
I'll make an example, let's say w show has a horrible episode but the series is fucking great anyway, does that make the episode less shitty?

Couldn't say for certain but anyone who was here back in 07 remembers that Code Geass was one of the best rides

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>>144667319
Isn't that "el atendedor de boludos"

I'm a boludo

Also, the best show I ever seen is Welcome to the NHK"

>>144667319
>If it is an alternate ending then the series should stand on its own.
The series still stands on it's own, it's just the conclusion that doesn't live up to it. A problem that is fixed with an alternate ending that is both far better and was the ORIGINALLY INTENDED CONCLUSION.
In case this still hasn't got to you, End of Evangelion was being planned before the final episodes were complete. There were plans to simply cancel the final two episodes of the show and just have Anno go on film and apologize to the watchers of the show that the conclusion wouldn't be coming for another year when the film came out. But instead they decided to try to put together whatever they could. If they just did the first plan would you accept EoE as an essential part of the series?

>>144667415
>You are contradicting yourself by saying that NGE and EoE are not separated but at the same time saying that EoE is an alternative ending.
No, because an alternate ending is another planned ending for a thing. If a film has an alternate ending that doesn't make that alternate ending a different film, it's just two different directions the film could have gone in.

>I'll make an example, let's say w show has a horrible episode but the series is fucking great anyway, does that make the episode less shitty?
Of course not, but the show can still be good or even a masterpiece despite the horrible episode. The final episodes of NGE aren't horrible either, they're just anticlimactic.

>>144667519
You got me

DUDES! If you like NGE is ok, is one of my favorite series of all time, but desu, NGE can't be put in the same bag with EoE, both are different products. The finale of NGE is just optimistic shit, yeah, EoE Is... The end of Evangelion, but that doesn't make it part of NGE

>>144667621
But we're not talking about EVA being a masterpiece, is one of my favorite series we're talking about the fact that the show didn't have a proper ending, which is true.

>>144667808
Tbh* not "desu", kek

>>144667808
EoE is more in line with the tone of the series than the original ending is. And, again, EoE is a bunch of nonsense without NGE as context.

>>144667853
It does have a proper ending in the form of End of Evangelion, an essential part of the series.

>>144667982
The same way the second Matrix movie is a bunch of nonsense without The Matrix but that doesn't make them the same movie.

>>144667621
NGE was the ending Director Anno intended, even if he had to rush it. A happy ending where Shinji becomes a functional person.
He recieved death threats.
So in retaliation, he made End of Evangelion. He gave fans exactly what they wanted, to show them they were wrong about wanting it. Bad end. Shinji is a sick perverted fuck, and he spends the last of his days in a desolate wasteland with someone who is disgusted of him.
Fans ate that shit up because the message went right past their heads and they just praised it for OMG ITS SO DEEP AND LOOK AT THE ANIMATION. They fapped to Asuka harder than ever before. Just ask around, Asuka is best girl.

Director Anno became completely disgusted with his own fans, they had turned his critique into the very thing he criticized.
So now he is making Rebuild, and his goal is to give one last fuck you to what he percieves are his sick perverted otaku fans. He's on record saying that Mari is his tool to destroy Evangelion.

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>>144667621
I don't give a fuck about intention; that doesn't effect the quality of the series at all. NGE is a series that completed its run without expressed plans for a sequel at the time of its completion, so I'll judge it how it stands.

I will, however, also concede that EoE a huge improvement. It enriches the experience of the original series on its own.

If you are going to group EVA and EoE together then you must also include the more recent entries. Are they (not) also intended extensions of the series?

>"All shows are great if you just ignore all the bad things"
Christ, you EVAfags aren't usually this stubborn

>>144667982
But is like the disappearance of haruhi suzumiya, the movie is God, but the second season and the first season are... Well, shit (I like both tho)

Ashita no Joe
Maison Ikkoku
Evangelion or LoGH
Galaxy Express 999 (Harlockverse would have saved anime if it weren't upseated by Gundam's meteoric popularity)
Cardcaptor Sakura

>>144668285
So what makes you think that in EoE only Asuka and Shinji survived instrumentality? That doesn't make much sense.

>>144668419
>Adam and Eve
Come on man, at least think a bit here. This is high school level symbolism.

>>144668488
That's the stupidest thing I ever heard


Is a reference, but that doesn't make it logic

>>144668488
Yeah, yeah, i know that, that's the first thing i thought but at the same, for a storytelling perspective why just them? Why not everyone? Didn't Asuka die? Why one of the persons who died before instrumentality is alive and everyone else died?

>>144648803
Seconded

>>144668161
I'm not saying they're the same thing. I'm just saying that EoE is a part of NGE just like any other episode is. Just like how the second Matrix movie is a part of the Matrix trilogy which includes all three films. And when most people say "NGE" they are referring to both the series and EoE.

>>144668285
Essentially none of this is true. You're ignoring actual information from the film to fit this narrative of EoE being payback and suggesting Anno said and did things that he never said or did.

>>144668326
>Are they (not) also intended extensions of the series?
No, they aren't that's why they're called "Rebuild." They're meant to recreate the series in a different way. NGE+EoE still stand alone.

>>"All shows are great if you just ignore all the bad things"
>Christ, you EVAfags aren't usually this stubborn
I never said anything of the sort. You shouldn't ignore the last few episodes, but you should take them with a grain of salt given the circumstances of their creation and the fact that there's a film that contains most of the planned ending.

>>144668614
Same time*

so many repeat titles. it makes sense since there's so few worthwhile TV series.

>>144668614
>>144668606
It's only Shinji/Asuka because it makes a better ending.

Literally anyone could have come back, or had come back, or will come back. But for that scene, it was more important to just show those two characters. It's for the symbolic appeal - anime is escapism, and the mise en scene is more important than whatever is most "realistic".

>>144668779
Asuka was dead...

>>144668779
Also, I don't get why this is so hard to understand. People accept that all the religious imagery had no reason for being there other than "it looked cool", so why argue that the ending had to be any deeper than "it looks cool" as well?

Anno loved animation, he had a story he wanted to tell but he was an animator first and foremost. Making shit look cool is the most important thing.

>>144668842
It's a cartoon, not a flawless literary masterpiece with a tight script lacking any holes.

>>144668779
Being "symbolic" doesn't change the fact that it doesn't make sense and therefore is a (minor) flaw.
It's up for interpretation tho so who cares.

>>144668842
Yeah, because dead people can move and talk.
>>144668907
Being a "cartoon" is not an excuse, it's like saying that a movie being horrible stupid and basic is okay because it's market for kids

>>144668907
The reason to assume the ending is deeper that just looking cool is because its the goddamn ending, one of the most narratively and thematically powerful moments of any piece of media. If something occurs at the very end of something it's usually safe to assume it's not there for flavor, and that you're supposed to take something significant from it.

>>144668907
ASUKA
WAS
FUCKING
DEAD


In fact, I'll put a fucking 9 in EoE, THAT'S BULLSHIT MAN

>>144668985
The Evas fucking ate her, dude, are you stupid or something?

>>144669075
Sorry, i thought you were talking about the ending scene.

>>144669075
>>144669034
She brought to Instrumentality and revived from there.

>>144669136
I know that, but why she? I mean, EVERY FUCKING PERSON IN THE HISTORY REVIVED


This shit is like the finale of Madoka... Wait...
Madoka is Evangelion but shitter, oh fuck, that explains why Madoka and Shinji are shit

>>144669075
>>144668985
HEY REMEMBER THAT TIME IN THE SERIES SHINJI DIED AND HIS CORPOREAL FORM WAS ABSORBED BY THE SOUL OF HIS DEAD MOTHER CONTROLLING A GIANT ROBOT

Who the fuck knows the logistics of it, it's a cartoon. Enjoy it for the animation, read a book if you're looking for something so plot-focused. NGE was more successful in its emotional appeal than a tight narrative. You people raised on VNs turned into anime really try too hard when it comes to this sort of thing.

>>144669029
The ending doesn't have to be that at all. "Eva is a story that repeats" and all that.

>>144669221
Actually I like Shitangelion, but is objectively shit

>>144669211
She has a better understanding and control of her AT field due to piloting Eva.
Also Madoka is a far, far shittier character than Shinji.

>>144669221
>The ending doesn't have to be that at all. "Eva is a story that repeats" and all that.
It doesn't have to be but it often is and arguable should be. And more importantly in the specific case of NGE's ending I would argue that it does have a deeper meaning, even if the scene is highly ambiguous and up for interpretation.

>>144669221
But that's all cohesive with it's fucked up weird world, the fact thar only Asuka came back isn't.
Also, https://youtu.be/DUGsQqM2wZM

I tried watching Lain, guys. It was boring as shit. Lain's a meme

>>144669362
The AT (absolute terror) shield is about how much fucked are you... Why Asuka? Because she is SO DEEP AND FUCKING SAD?! THERE'S MORE PERSONS IN THE WORLD WITH WORST CHILDHOODS, FUCK!

I love you tho

>>144669294
>Shitangelion
How can you use words like this and think it's witty, or at the very least, not incredibly juvenile and embarrassing?

>>144669362
I feel its ambiguity is part of its strength, but come on - there is so much in the series left unexplained that they needed to release the terrible N64 game just for fans to actually be able to make full sense of the series. There are obviously going to be holes, why people feel compelled to argue the Why's of their existence 20 years later is beyond me. You can enjoy a work even though it's incomplete. I'd also argue that enjoying NGE strictly for its plot is ignoring several other layers of the show that are arguably better in their execution.

>>144669448
HOW DO YOU KNOW ONLY ASUKA CAME BACK

There could have been hundreds of people around the world rejecting instrumentality, but Anno wanted that scene to focus on Shinji and Asuka - those other people aren't important. The symbolism and imagery are more important than protecting the sense of reality in a show about giant robots and the emotional fragility of their pilots.

>>144655678
4chan is changing dude, it's starting with the big boards
I don't want it to ;-;

>>144669477
No, the AT field is the wall of your soul. Asuka just controls it better because she has practice from piloting Eva, which can project AT.
I think you're just trolling at this point though.

>>144669574
>there is so much in the series left unexplained that they needed to release the terrible N64 game just for fans to actually be able to make full sense of the series.
The N64 game just explains a few trival plot elements. Those elements are not necessary for understanding Eva's core themes.

>>144647343
FLCL. It's such a light, fun watch to just marathon the entire series.

>>144669609
Well... I really not, remember, the last angel is Lilim, why she's special? you're answer don't make sense

>>144669574
Rejecting? Only Shinji rejected instrumentality, he had the power to decide, not everyone.
He decided to end instrumentality and therefore everyone got "separated" but we only see Asuka and Shinji

>>144669574
Because I'm a 4 years old summerfag, Shitangelion, Shitangelion, Shitangelion

>>144669709
You might need to rewatch the show friend. Or perhaps take some more English lessons.

>>144669709
But wasn't Lilim literally human kind? What the fuck are you talking about.
Also, maybe only Asuka and Shinji survived because they were inside their evas? It's stupid, but it's better than nothing

>>144669791
Yeah, I need to do both things, but not now amigo

>>144655678
At his point, I'm almost positive the entire thread is just trolls trolling trolls. The previous two seasons have brought an influx of normalfags, but I really doubt that it was to such an extent that this thread could be considered anything other than shitposting.

>>144669661
You can understand the themes, sure, but if someone is going to be autistic about the plot, it's impossible to understand from the core series. Twenty years later, fans can understand it because explanations have permeated their way through the internet and into casual discussions of the work, but one only has to look towards new viewers to see that a thorough understanding of the work is impossible from one viewing. There are just too many small pieces of the puzzle missing.

I don't see that as a problem, because I don't necessarily enjoy Evangelion for the plot.

>>144669766
Everyone in LCL has the power to reject instrumentality.

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>>144653943
>>144656449
>>144664784
>>144666759
>>144666824
>>144667566
This.

>>144669852
Yeah, the AT field in Lilim (mankind) is in all humans, that's the reason why that doesn't make any fucking sense, I guess

>>144669895
For what i understand, Shinji was the "judge" of instrumentality.
I need to rewatch EoE tho, it's complicated as fuck

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Hajime yes Ippo

>>144669895
I wouldn't call it the plot so much as the lore. The plot of the story is just Shinji's development as a person. It's the lore, the backstory for why all the angel shit is happening that's confusing.

>>144669920
Lilim's AT field is weak, only strong enough to enclose a human body.

>>144666753
Everything about the first 15 episodes

>>144647373
You must be looking for MAL. You're on the wrong website.

>>144653084
It's slow until the last arc.

Then the last arc happens and you realize you were watching a masterpiece in the making.

>>144657475
ZZ isn't anime though.

>>144670104
There's nothing wrong with the first 15 episodes, the just weren't filled with deep shit, but they were pretty good and a good way to make us know and love the characters so Anno could fuck us in the ass with sorrow.

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>>144666759
Now this is good taste.

>>144670210
He did the same thing with Nadia, but most of the people who've watched Evangelion haven't seen Nadia, and can't appreciate the parallels.

>>144670103
You're absolutely right and I should have made a distinction between the two.

>>144670305
Honestly, it could have been lifted from MAL. I wish there were more interesting choices ITT. I think >>144657856 is probably the best so far.

I just want to say something


If Evangelion is one of the best animes of all time... This is fucked up

How did an obvious rec thread live this long?

Naruto

Mirai Nikki

Dragon Ball Super

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Neon Genesis Evangelion isn't only the greatest anime ever created, but possibly even the greatest piece of art ever released on television.

>>144670210
>know and love the characters
>almost every character is unlikeble

NGE, Madoka and GITS 2nd gig are the perfect anime.

Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso

>>144672078
The characters are heavily flawed but most of them are still likable.

>>144647343
Boku no Pico

Unironically.
Nice rec thread. Way to feed the cancer faggots.

>>144672495
Reminder that every thread is a potential rec thread.

>>144664282
My kurotachi!

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>>144652876
This

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Evangelion, Ghost in The Shell SAC, Mushishi and Girls und Panzer.

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>>144652876
INFERNO COPPU

>>144655367
>NNB
This. As comfy as hot cider during cold winter nights

1. Non Non Biyori
2. Azumanga Daioh
3. GITS 2nd GIG
4. FLCL
5. GITS
6. Trigun
7. TTGL
8. Yuru Yuri
9. GTO
10. Get Backers

>>144675062
Man, Get Backers? More like Blue Ballers. Did the show got axed or the author simply run out of ideas and said "fuck this"?

MD geist
Mad bull 34
Shitcom

>>144670960
Autism

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pic related

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Accelerando
Stringendo
Stretta

>>144676876
Only if it was uncensored. They had the best anime of all time on their hand but they fucked it up.

>>144647504
>>144654967

I look at what the Director was trying to convey, and on what levels and how well they achieved that.
This still includes debatable values on why and what mechanics were good, but narrows it down to a much narrower scope with less debate on values

it's obviously Lupin

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From what I've seen, I'd either say RoV or Aria.

Best comedy of all time is Sunred and its not even close. Shame not too many people have seen it.

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>tfw shimoneta is actually in my top 10

In my opinion? Texhnolyze.

It changed me.

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Code Geass may be too mainstream for /a/, but it certainly is one of the best anime ever created, at least on par with NGE.
Prove me wrong if you can.

>>144679390
Code Geass has a fuckton of plotholes and stupid shit, but it's the most entertaining anime i have watched.

FMA: Brotherhood. Popular and still one of the best. It's a pretty rare example of a good story with an excellent ending, because we all know that Japan can't into endings.

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>NGE was the ending Director Anno intended, even if he had to rush it.

It wasnt. Anno has said multiple times that EoE was his intended ending for eva.

> A happy ending where Shinji becomes a functional person.

EoE had a happy/hopeful ending


>He recieved death threats.

He received one death threat abou Death and Rebirth just being a recap of the show instead of the promised sequel

>So in retaliation, he made End of Evangelion. He gave fans exactly what they wanted, to show them they were wrong about wanting it. Bad end.

EoE has a happy ending
>They fapped to Asuka harder than ever before. Just ask around, Asuka is best girl.


Except for many years after EoE was released Rei consistently beat asuka in character popularity poll. If asuka is more popular now, its because of character assassination anno commited in rebuild.

>Director Anno became completely disgusted with his own fans

Anno is an otaku that adores asuka, he was annoyed at other otaku that prefferred Rei


>So now he is making Rebuild, and his goal is to give one last fuck you to what he percieves are his sick perverted otaku fans.

The reason he made rebuild and wanted to quit after 3.0 (according to himself in his latest interview after shin gojira) is because he wanted to make asuka more liked than any other character in eva. After succeeding with 3.0 he didnt see a reason to continue.
>He's on record saying that Mari is his tool to destroy Evangelion.

He has never said this