orange Episode 4

Doesn't matter. We're all getting NTR'd.

>>144635258
Even the MC gets ntr'd

NOBODY IS SAFE

>>144634719
it's a shojo, you are supposed to "self-insert" as the famale MC

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>>144634719
>>144635312

I've self-inserted as Naho a long time ago.

>>144634719
>Watching Shoujo
Your supposed to insert yourself into a cement mixer

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I wish that I just had one day in my life on which I was as lucky

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Hold me, /a/

>bitches and whores the anime

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>>144636713
Is this you?

only a show for women would turn something as cool as time travel into boring romantic shit

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>>144637006
I bet you think Re:Zero is a great time travel show.

>>144636750
TRUE

>>144637494
Time travel is cool. If you add romance it becomes shit aka show for women

>>144637774
This show isn't about time travel...

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>tfw this was probably the happiest moment this show will have

>>144637774
>he watches anime
>is on 4chan
>he still cares about social normas

"ok"

>>144637774
Ohh, you must be such a manly man, can I touch your pecs? Just thinking about it gets me hot.

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Suwa is a based bro.
Too bad he gets NTRed

Real men like romance shows you insecure faggots

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>>144634719
I've already self-inserted as Naho's "What the fuck are you doing" friend.

>has a cheatsheet to life
>keeps fucking it up

>>144638286
Real men (female) like romances you mean

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>>144638269
>NTR
Is it really NTR though?
The future and the present aren't in the same timeline, so it's not like the kid and the marriage get aborted retrospectively

>>144638317
The manga explains it better as to why she doesn't read any further (or rather, her character is exposed so much to the reader that it's more obvious.
Still, she deserves a konk!

>>144638411
>trying this hard

You are as edgy as Hachiman and he really runs wild with the reddit crowd, so I guess you got a reason to be that way after all

>>144637774
>ecchi is ok
>harem is ok
>fighting over best girl for MC is okay
>MC is female
>REEEEEEE


You don't have to watch it, you know.

>>144638411
You probably like moeshit lmao

>>144634719
Orange suppose self-insert that woman that want Kakeru dick before of his suicide.

>>144638286
I never understood Anons who bitch about never finding a girlfriend or having a bad love life in HS couldn't watch romance and self-insert as the main guy. There are plenty of romance manga and TV shows where the FeMC has a single-target attraction on one guy.

Really glad to listen to that OP week after week.
Well, here we go.

>>144638544
shitting on moe on /a/
>>>/v/

>>144638219
>>144638469
>>>tumblr

WTF I HATE UEDA NOW

>>144638808
>moeshitters hating on romance

Makes sense, go back to your show threads where no males exist kek

>>144638893
>people don't agree with your hate for women
>REEEEE THEY MUST BE CRAZY TUMBLRITES
>IT'S NOT ME I SWEAR!

You poor baby being mad that girls get things you don't in 2D AND 3D.

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>>144638808
>>144638893
>I don't like this show
>I know, I'll tell them to go back to tumblr!

>>144638428
But how does she know that it won't affect the future? Doesn't this just mean that she is totally OK with NTR'ing Suwa?

>>144634719
How is this show anyways OP, thought about watching it but I don't know.

>>144639171
It will be explained. NTR is not an option.
She already said in the future "I will save you NEXT time."

>>144639037
> using capital letter to enforce opinion.
> Getting emotionally triggered over simple teasing.
>using 'poor baby' to insult.
Again
>>>tumblr

>>144639210
>Because in harem male MC actually has to have some sort of appealing traits to get the girls.
>MC-kun is so kind...
>I WANT HIM!
>says 10 bitches in the same series
>This is wish fulfillment of the worst kind because MC is getting attention just because she is a girl.

The irony is real

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>>144639381
>this much damage control

>>144639171
>>144639367

That's the thing, they don't know. They explicitly state in the last chapter that their timeline being painted over is a possibility, they just choose to believe that it won't be.

And as a bonus Pan even asks "What's so bad about that?" as Suwa is standing right there holding his child.

Holy fuck this whole show is retarded.

>>144635933
I want to insert into Naho

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>>144639671
>>That's the thing, they don't know. They explicitly state in the last chapter that their timeline being painted over is a possibility, they just choose to believe that it won't be.

Should I just drop this now or wait for an anime-original ending?

>>144639389
It's not only kindness(as if female MCs even have that in shoujo) .They are normally very powerful in battle harem or good looking or at least try to solve the emotional problems of the heroines despite being physically weak.
Give me an example why all these studs in shoujo like Orange even like the MC?
Come on give an actual reply.

>>144639634
Can't reply.
'damage control'
>>>tumblr

>>144639210
>Because in harem male MC actually has to have some sort of appealing traits to get the girls.

Traits as looking as generic as possible and having no other personality other then "I'm such a loner"?

>>144639867
Maybe wait until it's over and watch it in one sitting if you're remotely interested.

If it hasn't grabbed you, then drop it, I don't really think it's worth anyone's time.

>>144639925
Not the anon you were talking to, but Naho is the ideal housewife and if you're into having an ideal housewife, Naho is your best pick.

>>144639925
>Give me an example why all these studs in shoujo like Orange even like the MC?

If Naho was a character in a harem show she'd be the somewhat boring but regardless pure wife type character.

>expecting your past, beta self to right your wrongs

Big mistake.

>>144640089
>"I love you, but I'm going to send instructions to my past self on how to date the guy I liked back then, which may override our timeline and kill our relationship and daugther."
>ideal

>>144639925
They normally become powerful BECAUSE of the women empowering him.

And honestly, Orange is pretty much a harem with the genders swapped. Naho is a no personality nobody who only has looks and her quiet nature going for her. But people like you choose to sperg out because it's a woman instead of a male getting attention and pretend it's somehow worse.

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>>144640184
Oh, go cry in a corner.
If I had the chance to get with my one true love (which this obviously will be, because it's the shoujo), I'd gladly sacrifice me second-best choice.
Get over yourself

>>144640089
Yeah ideal housewife and mother still moping about dead high school crush.
Any sane man would have divorced her immediately.

>>144640247
There is nothing to cry about, the entire premise of this show is laughable at best, utterly retarded at worst.

Like the MC herself.

>>144640399
>I'm literally crying my bad opinion all over this thread
>there's nothing to cry about

Corner is over there, mate

Why doesn't Naho read the entire fucking letter? It's like she's only reading for the day she's on.

>>144634719

As Naho, you dolt.

>>144640017
You can't even quote properly.

I want to fuck bread for brains.

>>144640339

I genuinely don't think the future Suwa is happy in the relationship either. Not that we have much to go on at this point, but what we've seen is him wanting to marry someone else and moping over his buddy committing suicide.

He'll hopefully end up with someone less damaged than Naho after this time travel stuff.

>>144640503
>bad opinion

Except it wasn't an opinion, it was a fact.

>>144640650
How is that terrible?
100% of people would say that they'd go back in time and do everything perfectly if they had the chance.
If you got #2, but have the chance to get #1 with no negative consequences whatsoever (your timeline will - worstcase scenario - cease to exist or you will just exist as a parallel timeline), everybody would go for #1, because you literally cause no harm. It either changes entirely or your life with Suwa remains intact and another timeline can have #1.

>>144640697
"ok"

>>144640602
You can't even reply properly.

>>144640771
See >>144640751

From a philosophical standpoint, it doesn't matter for shit.
Remaking the world if you get the chance is such a common trope and yet you deny this particular story the right.
Did you not watch/read Haruhi Suzumiya? The series? The movie?
Did you also cry about Haruhi and Yuki being such bad people for remaking the world when they felt like it?

>>144640771

I'm a guy and I'd do that in a heartbeat. Especially if said true love wound up committing suicide.

>>144640771
That's usually a guy thing because they have less of an attachment to their children.

>>144640247
Dreaming 'muh one true luv' over your kid.
what a pathetic 3DPD.
Fuck off.

>>144640998
>implying I wasn't talking about my waifu
What a fucking normie you are

>>144640909
They didn't erase their own kid.

>>144640909
>husband and kid cease to exist
>not a negative consequence
Ok.

>>144641073
>having only one true waifu
What a pleb. Fuck off.

>>144641096
The whole world ceases to exist. Nobody experiences anything, because it is no longer reality anymore.
That's why Koizumi's argument to keep the world in a solid state in the Haruhi Suzumiya series was also bullshit. "I like this world and I would miss living in it" is purely sentimental.
Everything that was reality ceases to exist. It's like it never happened.

>>144641077
That's where we're going to differentiate?
Haruhi was willing to destroy and recreate everything, only to make it so that she would get together with her love interest. Would've destroyed and recreated her parents as well.
Yuki recreated the world and triggered the godawful Yuki-chan show. If you defend that behaviour, you're simply a lost cause

>>144638952
Nope. If you hate moe on /a/ the only answer is
>>>/v/

>>144641244
Kys pham

>>144641223
She willingly writes them out of existence. That's different to a subconscious byproduct. I mean you can defend that as much as you want but it will never not be fucked up.

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>>144640771
I haven't watched the latest episode yet (so correct me if I'm wrong) but as far as I know the girl literally doesn't know about her future apart from letters which only gave small details for the day ahead and her future self didn't really show her thinking "Damn, I wish I never married this guy and chose the other guy instead". I can understand if she knew who she will up end up with and have kids with would be a bad thing if she tried to erase that would probably be a bad thing.

Either way if I could change the future to suit everyone's need then I'd do it.

>>144639284
Shit.

The main girl literally wants to bring back her HS crush from the dead while being married to another guy with a kid.

>>144640247
Jesus fucking kill yourself.

>>144641414
>different to a subconscious byproduct

Yuki from the main timeline ALWAYS knew that the "feelings error" would occur and accepted that and Haruhi is visibly excited about her subconscious destroying everything and even outright asks with a very irritated and angry tone "Why do you want to stay in this boring world?"

Both don't give a shit about the rest of the world or the other people close to them.

>>144641563
And how is that relevant to this at all?

So what I understand about the ending >>144639671 posted is that there are no noticeable changes to the current timeline because there is a possibility of a new timeline where Naho saves Kakeru and doesn't have a kid with Suwa.

With the exception of Suwa being perfectly okay with his wife wanting to be with someone else in another life, I don't see what the issue is here. Sounds like it's more or less wishful thinking for the adults if nothing changes in their current lives.

>>144640909
>philosophical standpoint

What the fuck are you even talking about? Naho is literally denying any love she had for her husband or her fucking child but actually wanting to erase them completely. The fact that you think that's somehow perfectly okay is mind-boggling.

>>144641645
it's not a subconscious byproduct, even though you attempted to differentiate between Yuki's/Haruhi's remaking of the world and Naho's.
Both series even have incredibly similar reasons for remaking the world and yet you are defending one show while saying that it's shitty of the other show.

Pure hypocrisy, wew

>>144641434

I don't think anyone hates the past version of Naho, who doesn't have enough information to know she's erasing anyone - for all she knows she winds up living alone with a bunch of cats.

The future version is the one getting all the hate. (Which I personally don't agree with anyway but whatever at least it's more understandable.)

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>>144641659
You are pretty much spot on anon. That's what I got from reading the ending as well. As for Naho, I don't think she's aware that her future self is married and has a kid with Suwa. It would add a whole new layer of drama to the story if she did.

>>144641707
>I have literally no point, but am willing to imply that Naho hates her child and her husband even though the show has not hinted at that once yet

"ok, good point"

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Is she fucking retarded?

>>144641712
You're strawmanning hard right now. I was talking about Haruhi. Yuki being wrong doesn't make Naho not wrong.

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>I would gladly sacrifice you for a taste of that high school dick I never got to taste.

>>144641889
I wonder how awkward the sex is between them.

>>144641870
How is Haruhi recreating the world different from Yuki recreating the world, tell me.

Haruhi is very much aware of the fact that she's remaking the world in the dream she's in with Kyon and if the theories about her being aware of her godhood are right, she's even worse than Yuki in all of her behaviour.

>>144641712
But in Haruhi remaking the world hadn't been shown in a positive light. Kyon resented it on behalf of the viewers.
In Orange MC is acting like it doesn't have any negative consequence.

>>144641978
The people remaking the world in Haruhi ALSO act like there are no negative consequences ...

>>144641931
>going off topic because you have nothing else to say
I'll humor you though because it's more interesting than this shit.

Because Haruhi thinks it's a fucking DREAM. That's a little different from Yuki who was fully aware of what she was doing and what it would do. What the actual fuck.
Theories are just theories and mean nothing until they are more than theories.

>>144641889

It's a baby, no one cares about babies m8. It's not like it's a real person yet.

Is this the best of the season? I'm not a huge fan of NTR but I love watching a group of close friends doing things.

>>144641920
Me too. He knows that his wife was in love with their friend, and regrets not saving him every day of her life. Were they thinking of him while he was cumming inside her? Their entire marriage and sex lfe must be pretty awkward overall.

>>144641918
>t they are willing to bet the past 10 years and their daughter's life

The thing is that they don't. It's more or less fantasizing that things will turn out better in another life.

But you're already going to spam this bullshit about Naho being a horrible person until the series ends.

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>>144639671
>And as a bonus Pan even asks "What's so bad about that?" as Suwa is standing right there holding his child.

This is pathetic.

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Absolutely ass annihilated

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>>144642062
Where have I seen that before

>>144641839
The fact that she's okay with potentially erasing her child from existence already proves it you dumbass.

I self insert with kakeru so I'm feeling like a stud right now t b h

>>144642220
Not even /u/fag but I thought her and Maria made a good couple.

>>144642286
Maria was best girl for Saki and Shun was best boy.

>>144642058

It's really good and sending messages back in time to avoid getting NTRed isn't really NTR anyway.

>>144641155
>polywaifuism

Kill yourself.

>>144640771
The kid never existed in the timeline where Kakeru lives so that doesn't make any sense.

>>144642031
Kyon the MC didn't like remaking the world and opposed it whereas Naho the MC thought it's fine to remake the world that can erase your son's life.
There is a difference.

You see, what's meant to be is KakeruxNaho
NahoxSuwa isn't meant to be obviously, hence her sending the letter back in time to change it to the right time line.
You could say the KakeruxNaho is the Steins;Gate

READ THE WHOLE GODDAMN LETTER YOU STUPID ANGSTY TWITS!!!

>>144642499
>it's only bad if it is the MC remaking the world
What did he mean by this?
It makes absolutely no difference in the whole scheme of things if it's the MC, the third cousin of the MC or Mr Frankenstein.

>>144642521
And throughout the whole show they'll be trying to accomplish the Steins;Gate. I'm sure suwa would fall in love with one of the other girls, but it's already predetermined, even before they were born, that Naho is Kakeru's girl. It's written in stone and you can't fucking change that faggots

>>144642218
You went wildly off topic from defending Naho's actions but it looks like you've given up on that.
>I'm trying to explain to you that if you dislike Naho's actions, you will also have to dislike Yuki and Haruhi, because they are on the same level.
Like I said, debasing their actions does not validate Naho's. In fact you're just admitting they are fucked up which was my original point. So thanks I guess.

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>Altering the past to try and get a more ideal future

Are these people retarded? Do they not realize there could be extremely drastic consequences from even minor changes?
Nevermind the fact that in the best case scenario her own son ceases to exist

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>thread ruined by anti-romance troll who is analpained that a FeMC exists

Time to abandon this ship.

Japanese husbands must be really worried about their own and kids' life.
No wonder many men there don't want to marry.
I feel sorry for the male children.

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kakeroo

>I'm am happily married to Suwa but my regret is not being able save Kakeru from an accident.

This shitstorm wouldn't even exist if she had wrote this simple line in the letter.

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nahu

>>144642976
She literally wrote
>Suwa is the dear person who saved my heart

People are just being retards

>>144642562
Because we are seeing and judging things from Kyon's point of view not Yuki or Haruhi's. They are portrayed to be in wrong, not the viewers conscience.
But in Orange author and Naho encouraging viewers to think world remaking is the right choice.

>>144642780
>analpained
Good riddance

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WATCHING THIS SHOW GIVES ME CANCER
WHY ARE THE MCs AUTISTIC FOR FUCK SAKE

>>144642712
It's a self-insert story for middle-aged married women so they can experience the thrill of ditching their kid and husband to get back with that stud from high school.

>>144643137
Don't forget about his kid.

How vapid must a person be to think of a story about unrequited love and enmity.
People criticise violence in anime but this is no different. The characters are in a, almost constant, state of turmoil.
And whenever and wherever there is an absence of tranquillity, there is violence.
I would have dropped this but I am still waiting for Suwa to claim his titan powers, break the outer wall and start fighting eotenas.

>>144643233
Yes, since it can result in the death of an entire universe.

>>144642780
Don't come back please.

>>144643175
Japanese women are worst among all 3DPD.
At least in America many 3DPD genuinely care about their kids.

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>The best shoujo ever they said.

Go damn it why is this show such shit. I just went ahead and read the manga and it was fucking bullshit. I don't know why I got hyped for this series.
Even though it's shit its still better than 90% of all shoujo's in general

If Suwa didn't marry Naho, no one would have married this autistic psycho bitch. And yet she's here entertaining the idea of fucking another person who is not her husband. Betraying the person who supposedly "saved her heart".

>>144643161
Here here. Getting some Town Where You Rage feelings outta this series for the sole reason that Naho can't be asked to read more than 1 paragraph per episode and ignores her own words.

I don't even care about things like "how does future self know what'll happen next since past-self already altered an important event" cause it seems she's too dumb to actually diverge the timeline successfully. Kakeru's death is probably after the convergence point of hooking up with Suwa and future-Naho already seems to give hints about fooling her past self by not mentioning Suwa's role at all.

>I wonder if my future self ever knew who kakeru is interested in

Holy shit, this stupid fucking bitch. Why the fuck does she think she is getting these letters?

Naho pissed me off so much this EP. Her talking to Kakeru at the end addressed the issue but the first half of this EP was cring to watch.

These montages fucking suck.

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>life cheat sheet
>still does everything wrong

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>>144644148
>it's addressed why she doesn't read the whole letter at once.
Its so fucking stupid though. Naho doesn't read the whole letter because she wants to follow along with the date. Naho stated that she follows the dates of the letter so that she won't get confuse with the events that happen later on in the future.
If that is not terrible writing for plot convenience then I don't know what is.

>>144645130
That's not the explanation though.
I finished that chapter half an hour ago and she says that she never read ahead more than one day, because she felt anxious about it, which is still relatively cheap, but all things considered makes sense, because she obviously has severe social anxiety and when I think about me not wanting to call the dentist, because I'm scared to death just by the thought of going to the dentist, I can at least understand here.

O must say though, I'm still fairly sad about what I've seen from the Anime so far. Really thought it would take a different direction. I don't want a "We say that we love each other, but don't even really date" situation. I hated Chuunibyou for that reason and I'm starting to feel resentment for this manga as well.

>>144645314
Meant "I've seen from that manga so far, obviously

Sorry

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So dense.

>>144643501
>3DPD
Fucking kill yourself

>>144645314
Still retard plot convenience

>>144645361
Tbh, having read well past that part in the manga, I'm not sure if we're misinterpreting that statement as retarded.
She might mean "I wonder if she knows that he loved her.". It makes sense in the manga chapter context, but at the same time doesn't really, because she thinks something similar some time later when Kakeru is asked who he would like to confess to him.

>>144645454
retarded*

>>144635933
I want knock Naho out so bad for being such a stupid cunt.

>>144634719
>>Am I suppose to self-insert as Kakeru or Suwa?

>self inserting as a guy in a shoujo ntr fantasy


holy shit /a/, I guess this was too hard for you to figure out.

>>144645454
>>144645493
I mean, I get that and I'm not arguing it, but again - I can relate to a certain degree.
I know many people that don't read their mails because they have anxiety etc.
It's somewhat relatable.

>>144645555
>that spacing
Holy shit /r/anime, I guess it was too hard for you to lurk.

Are Japanese men not allowed to talk to girls when they have a girlfriend?

Heartiste was right.

Females consider five minutes of alpha male dick is better than fifty years of happy marriage with a beta male.

>>144646527
Kakeru isn't alpha.

How is she still getting letters? If they're coming from the alternate timeline where Kakeru died how is she getting letters that say stuff like "I stop talking to Kakeru when he starts dating Ueda."?

>>144643501
Cooking like this is unsanitary.

>>144646125
Not only the japanese do that. Only countries with stupid degenerate ideas like "open relationship" wouldn't make a fuss about talking and looking to other girls.

>>144646685
Future Naho kept a journal so she's copying her entries from her old journal into the letters with extra things such as 'I want you to do this' hence the letters are so detailed.

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>>144646125
Ueda is simply too clingy and insecure so she demands absolute devotion.
She has this country girl complex, wishing for the bright life in the city.
She doesn't even like Kakeru, she sees him as a ticket to a supposedly better life.

>>144646685
She isn't consistently getting letters. She got 1 letter that she reads in real time, instead of all at once because she's retarded in every single way.

>>144647527
>>144647626
Never mind, I'm retarded. For some reason I thought in the other time line Kakeru had died before the events of the current timeline, so I was thinking if he were dead he wouldn't have been around to date Ueda, etc, but I just remembered his accident hasn't happened yet.

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Why is everyone mad at Naho and keep saying that she's willing to erase her child for highschool dick?

Her future self where Kakeru is dead doesn't "love" him or whatever. She only said that she regretted not getting to know him better and would've stopped him from committing suicide just like the rest of the group.
Her present self doesn't know jack shit about her future apart from the fact that Kakeru ends up killing himself. She doesn't know who she ends up with, what everyone gets up to or even know she has a child in the future.

So where's all this coming from? Do people here really have such hate against women making decisions or something?

>>144647862
She has no way of knowing 100% that if she succeeds in getting that Kak in the past and saving his life that their current future timeline won't be entirely erased or changed, as such, by her sending her letter into the past, she's very much willing to erase her marriage with Suwa and her child from existing in exchange for Kakeru's steaming hot loads.

>>144647952
>she's very much willing to erase her marriage with Suwa and her child from existing
That's not how it works.

>>144647986
>>144647952
>She has no way of knowing 100% that

>>144647986
WE know that's not how it works but THEY don't know that.

>>144647986
Except it is? All the events in her life ended up leading her to marrying Suwa and having his kid. Saving Kakeru and changing the whole past means she's willing to erase her entire present.

>>144647986
Information the reader has above and beyond the characters own knowledge cannot be considered when considering a character's motivation.

>>144647862
Try reading the thread next time.

>>144647952
But none of her letters say "Hey, I want you to suck his dick!". As far as I know the letters only tell her to try to get close to him, not in a romantic way but in a friendly supportive way. For example, the letter asked her to make him lunch and wake him up, but you can argue that she only wanted her present self to do that because he was struggling living with his grandma and support was just what he needed.

Considering she never showed any strong feelings for him in the future then I'm pretty sure she had confidence that her present self that she wouldn't end up loving Kakeru and completely erasing her child.

>>144648338
Read what? I've been on this thread since it started and it's nothing but bullshit everywhere and people telling people to go back to tumblr for trying to have a serious discussion.

>>144648502
So you didn't read the thread or you just chose to ignore any discussion you didn't like. Gotcha.

>>144648502
what are you even on about

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>get the ability to talk to her past self
>uses it to get some faggot's dick in HS

Only a woman would have that little imagination

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>>144648561
What part of "I've been on this thread since it started" did you not understand?

>>144648685
Try reading.

>>144648915
>try reading
try taking your own advice because you are spouting nonsense

I am doing my best but I can't like the main girl.

>>144648869
>doesn't tell her lottery numbers
>doesn't tell her what stocks to invest in
>doesn't tell her general life advice that doesn't involve dick
Why is this allowed

I WONDER WHO THE PERSON IS THAT KAKERU LIKES!!?!!??!?

>>144648869
Meanwhile in the ReLIFE threads...
>If you were the mc and had a chance to take a pill to make yourself young and relive your highschool days, what would you do?
>i would fuck all the bitches!

Man it's amazing how different the responses are depending on the gender of the mc.

What's the point of the notes, She just ignores what its telling her to do.

>>144648502
>make him lunch and wake him up
>not in a romantic way but in a friendly supportive way
I'm sure she'd do the same for the rest of her friends, had the need arisen of course.

>>144649285
Unlike Naho, the MC is not in a commited relationship as far as I know.

>>144649074
>anon claims girl sends letters to her past self only to make her fuck male character
>anon disproves this claim by saying what she does this only to support the male character in time of need and therefore preventing future suicide
Is that simple enough for you or do I have to spell everything out?

>>144649257
this shit always gets me in these shows. why do they need a ticker tape parade?

>>144634719
Is this gay

>>144649397
Neither is Naho.

Why didn't she read the full letter from the start? Why does she keep reading it little by little? Why didn't her future self write it clearly in the very first page that emo boy's mom was going to kill herself? Why didn't emo boy's mom or emo boy get the psychological treatment they desperately needed?

>>144649505
the issue at hand was that she's doing this willingly while knowing there's a chance that it will erase her current family life, including her son, because she loves Kakeru and wants to be with him, which does equate to "only to make her fuck male character". You are retarded.

>>144649607
She's married to Suwa and even has a child. Are you stupid?

>>144649607
Naho is married to Suwa with a child.

>>144649774
>>144649776
I'm talking about her highschool days, dumbass.

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I have seen almost every shoujo, josei, reverse harem, fujobait-with-female-character, that aired in the past 3-4 years and I have never been this angry and annoyed at a female mc. Amnesia MC didn't bother me this much. Fucking Amnesia-chan.

Why is Naho so retarded?
She literally has a guide for the future and she deliberately ignores it.

>>144650061
I don't know
I mean, I get that you might doubt it for a while, but when you accept it as truth you should do what it says unless you have a good fucking reason.

>>144650061
The real question is, WHY DOESN'T SHE READ THE FULL FUCKING LETTER INSTEAD OF LITTLE BY LITTLE.

>>144638269
>get the girl
>procreate a kid with her
>bitch still cheats on you with a dead guy by time traveling means
Poor Suwa.

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>>144649729
>because she loves Kakeru and wants to be with him
I think you're the delusional one here, anon. There was nothing said about her "loving Kakeru" or that she wanted to be with him. Like I said, she only talked about not being there for him or not talking to him when she had the chance to prevent him killing himself. If "wanting to talk to a male character for support" is equivalent to "only to make her fuck male character" then Jesus Christ, you need to talk to women more.

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Is it just me or was this episode full of quality?

>>144650061
>>144650233
This so much.

Fucking bitch got the exam question in advance, but decides to put them on hold until two hours before it starts and when she finally reads them she decides to ignore them. Naho makes me mad. I wish I was her so I could kill myself.

>>144650362
QUALITY.

Notice the first part of the episode was a bunch of slideshows and frogs.

>>144650458
Stop posting anytime.

>>144649257
His dead mom, of course.

>>144650567
Not now, Freud.

UEDA A SLUT

>>144650660
Ugly too,

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Does this count as a Shoujo? Its pretty damn good. I tear up a little with every episode.

Also, im assuming they will go full Bokudake and not explain a shit how is she receiving the future letters.

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>>144650660
i hate characters like her
described as pretty, even though they are always uglier than the protagonist, with a clingy annoying attitude so that its easier to hate on them. Just give the mc girl a real love rival that is not a self entitled bitch so we can also feel bad when she wins.

>>144650678
The artstyle in this show is not very pretty in general. But I agree, the lipstick really puts me off.

>>144650660
>>144650678
Literally did nothing wrong. Naho is a weak cunt who fell for no reason and acted hurt to get Kakeru attention.

>>144650823
Naho is a wimp, but Ueda is a crazy cunt.

>>144650823
>Literally did nothing wrong.
She pushed stupid Naho in purpose and gave her multiple smug looks when she saw her and Kakeru together, Ueda was also a clingy slut.

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>>144650942
>boo hoo I can't handle the smug

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>>144650823
>doesn't allow boyfriend to talk to friends that have known for longer
>got mad over a friend calling out his name
>literally did nothing wrong

>>144651034
What did he mean by this?

>>144650362
There is a part in which some students are walking like robots.

>>144651076
CGI.

>erasing your child out of existence because "my true love"
>portrayed as a kind, shy and nice girl
OK. That's fucked up, but I'll keep watching.

>>144651052
They could have talked whenever they wanted instead of doing so when Ueda was present. Let's not ignore that Naho was clearly acting like she had feels for Kakeru, of course Ueda would feel threatened.

>>144651164
i think its clear she just creates a different timeline for her past self

>>144651187
Did you miss the part where she's clinging onto him constantly?

>>144651187
You're forgetting Ueda took Kakeru away every time he had free time, making it pretty much impossible to approach him without her being there.

>>144651187
That's not the point. She said she didn't want him talking to his friends. She's a bitch for just that. That aside, Naho being awkward all the time was clearly a misunderstanding.

>>144650282
you are seriously retarded. i'm not going to argue with a retard.

>>144651187
>Let's not ignore that Naho was clearly acting like she had feels for Kakeru, of course Ueda would feel threatened
This is true, but sadly for her jelly bitches are the worst.

>>144651260
>>144651292
Naho and Kakeru are in the same class and could easily talk in multiple other occasions. Minute 13:45, she literally stands there watching the two talking, the problem is Naho runs away and doesn't Kakeru speak.

>>144647862
>Why is everyone mad at Naho and keep saying that she's willing to erase her child for highschool dick?

Never mind the fact that she clearly likes him, that's even worse. She's going to risk an entire timeline because some guy killed himself 10 years ago.

It's like the "screw your own sister for a slice of cheese" bit.

>>144647986
Are you retarded? The characters themselves don't know how it works. We do, but that doesn't count.

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>>144651361
Nice buzzwords there, anon. So not only you are illiterate but you have weak vocabulary as well.

>>144651253
Yes', but it's been pointed out multiple times that the characters themselves have no idea what will happen, so they are willing to blow an entire timeline.

>>144651450
Did you miss the part where Ueda storms in and interrupts them when Naho was trying to talk to him?

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>>144651607
Ueda can't see what Naho was doing and realistically couldn't have been fast enough to hear Naho forming the words Kakeru and call his name, she also couldn't have heard saying Kakeru the first time and is literally not even looking at her when running.

>>144651709
She did it twice on purpose. Go away Ueda.

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>>144651771
Again, coming from behind running, no way she actually heard Naho speak.

>>144651499
>Never mind the fact that she clearly likes him
Did you even read the rest of the post? I said that it wasn't the case because it never gave strong hints that she liked him in that way. She's hardly risking an entire timeline to begin with. Preventing a friend from committing suicide doesn't mean that she's automatically going to end up with him and her previous guy who she married is going to die alone. All we know now was that her intention was to save him so they all could stay together as friends alive in the future and open up the time capsule together. Wasn't that literally the main point of the show?

>>144651838
She sees both of them facing each other in the middle of the all way with no one else around. They're obviously up to something. Ueda sees this and barges in like the slut she is.

>>144652041
Neck yourself Naho, and do a favour to the timeline.

>>144652092
Nice try, you slutty bitch. Are you going to throw another tantrum because your boyfriend looked at another girl?

>>144652092
>>144652149
Can you stop role playing as anime girls.

>>144651771
>>144651607
Ueda was gonna be there eventually to drag him away and give mean looks to Naho, catching them talk everytime would have only made Ueda to chimp out sooner.

>>144651499
They clearly explain that the letters are creating a parallel universe and not changing the future in the future flash-forwards we get.

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>>144652243
What was her deal? She wasn't really developed in the manga either. Did she really just want Kakeru's gloomy dick?

>>144652431
Wants to get with the city boy for city points.

>>144652431
My guess is the author wanted a disposable generic bad guy to heat things up before going full Suwa-Naho-Kakeru romantic triangle.

>>144640247
And if your one true love kills himself the next time life shits on him a little you'll be wishing you had Suwa instead.

>two blondes end up together
>two redheads end up together
Kakeru should just get with the badass brunette chick to keep the pattern.

>>144646527
The irony here is that Suwa is the alpha and future Naho is lusting after the dick that went and anhero'd on her.

>>144652697
for real, azusa is best girl anyway

>>144652651
Does bread for brains get with megane?

>>144649117
Because she's a bland self-insert

>>144652898
I don't mind self inserts, I like most reverse harem heroines. She's too whiny, I guess.

>>144652897
I'm not sure if in the future they are together like Suwa and Naho, but they share a mutual affection for each other

>>144652897
>>144653039
Hagita X Azusa is OTP. Does the black-haired girl get with anybody?

>>144644148
I have a question, how is the letter suppose to update with all the changes Naho makes?

>>144652984
I don't like her specific type.
The shy one who isn't particularly good at anything and quails at every little thing.

I'm animeonly, so I am curious. Does the manga ever try and explain why future Naho needs her past self to fall in love with Kakeru instead of just becoming and staying friends with him?

Does it ever imply that only being friends with him is not enough to save him? I'm assuming that there is romance involved because this is shoujo series.

>>144653110
Not that we see. It's not even certain if Hagita and Azusa are together. The only certain future pairing is Naho and Suwa.

>>144653418
Damn that sucks. The only interesting thing about the main couple is the time-travel element and Kakeru's depression. Are they going to elaborate more on either of those?

>>144653357
She had feelings for him in the future timeline too. She believes if she spoke up and told her how she felt about him, he wouldn't try to kill himself. But now that I think about it, it would have been fine if it was just friendship too. He stopped at the last second because he didn't want to hurt all of them, not just Naho

Also it isn't a certain thing that they will end up together in the end. They are still in high school, and a lot could happen.

>>144634719
Based on his actions this episode, I'm guessing Suwa has a time travel letter as well.
If he does I swear I'm giving this show a 3/10 for predictability.

>>144655004
What if fucking everyone has a letter why did you read this

>>144655204
Even Kakeru?

>>144653357
Naho is already in love with Kakeru
She says 'I fall in love with Kakeru that day' or something in one of the letters

>>144655478
>dead nigga sending letters back through time
You're being unreasonable.

>>144655596
He could've sent it before he an heroe'd.

Dear me

There's no hope.

Fuck bitches. Get wasted.

- Kakeru from two years in the future.

>>144653615
>if she spoke up and told him how she felt about him he wouldn't try to kill himself
she really places that much importance on herself?

>>144655684
I think that was obvious since the softball episode when she arrogantly decided only she could save the game.

>>144634719
I've never felt more frustrated with anyone before as I am with Naho

>>144639171
The future Naho isn't the one who will NTR Suwa. Kakeru is dead, she is married to Suwa and they have a child, nothing will change even if her past self gets together with Kakeru.

You people are fucking retarded.

>>144656162
Except there's a possibility that messing with the past may affect, change or plainly erase their current timeline along with her marriage and daughter, but she still does it anyway because >muh Kakeru. Even if she's not trying to hook up with dead boy is still a pretty shitty thing to do.

>>144639210
Actually, Harem is the same as Shoujo in this regard.
Generic MC gets attention for no reason before the others fight over MC's dick/pussy.
It's in Shounen that the MC has to have some sort of appealing traits to get the girls.


Harem and Shoujo are both the same entity and with different faces. Both of them are wish fulfillment of the worst kind.
And people who deffend them should feel bad. Those who deffend Shoujo should feel worse because the MC in these kind of stories are turbosluts who keep whining over their whore lifes most of the times.

I want Kakeru to date the MC and then dump her for some other girl never introduced before(bonus points if she was a background charachter or some no face we saw him talk with at a certain point) and to spend his life with her.
This would leave MC completely destryed so #2 would console her and they would marry and make their kid.
This way Kakeru lives, MC's daughter doesn't get outexisted, and everyone is happy.

I wonder if any anons will even want Kakeru to live by the end of this.

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>>144634719
>>144638119
>>144639544
>>144641848
>>144641889
Is this the whole color scheme of the anime? It seems so muted and toned down. I saw the live action movie recently and while I didn't like it because it was stupid one thing the movie did amazing is that it consistently looked gorgeous. The cinematography wasn't anything to write home about but the scenery was always bright, colorful and pretty.
Seems like the anime has no redeeming value

how would you self-insert if you aren't a girl?

>>144658543
What are you talking about, anon? We're all little girls here.

>>144657134
Agree with everything you post except that at least being a mindless housewife is encourage on Japanese culture and the shoujo female lead usually looks like a moeblob so I can see some appeal while being a male betamax isn't appealing to no one

>>144658795
The latter is wish fulfilment for male losers like yourself. The former is wish fulfilment for female losers. I don't see the issue.

Eh I'm bored of it but it's a nice Sunday relaxer amidst the Re:Zero shitfest

What happens in the end, I'm not interested enough to care about being spoilered, it looks pretty obvious that Kakeru's gonna kill himself and it's Hanakana's fault for going all Terminator on herself

this show could become good if it plays on the sci-fi angle more

>>144659002
Female losers are socially acceptable, in fact nobody expects women to succeed, while male losers aren't.

>>144659078
Your point being?

>>144659097
Your inability to see the issue.

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I must say, adult Naho is smoking
10/10, would get NTRed

Why's it called Orange?

>>144659066
Don't count on it, nigger. The intricate romance is the main point, the time travel is just a plot device to create misunderstandings and drama.

>>144659144
Definitely the best looking of the three.

>>144659125
Put your point into words then you subhuman.

I can guess what you're trying to say but I dislike drawing conclusions based on interpretations of vaguely put, poorly worded thoughts. I want you to type out your point of view precisely so I can tell you precisely where you're wrong.

If I had to interpret I'd say you're trying to say that one is 'better' than the other, because one of the two types of character archaetype is socially frowned upon. And that point of view is utterly retarded because there is no imperative for entertainment to educate. All it needs to follow is the economic imperative of making money, and in that regard it does everything very much right because a male audience would not be interested in seeing a role model, it wants to see a wish fulfilment fantasy. The former wouldn't sell.

Assuming you didn't just get told like the retard you are, I'd suggest you elaborate a bit further next time to avoid misunderstandings.

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>>144634719
Whats her fucking problem? She's so retarded

>>144659202
Because Banana occupied.

ED is emo as fuck, I love it, nice anime to round off our former lives with

>>144659506
She has cheats for life, but decides to ignore them.

>>144659523
That's can't be the reason

Is it because two of the characters have orange hair?

>>144659616
Well, it is.

>>144653152
Magic, anon, the answer is always magic.

>>144659202
Because MC likes Orange juice

>>144659856
Shit taste in juices and guys. Sasuga Naho.

I like the way the animation's poorly done, it's like all the characters blend into each other and I don't need to watch it too hard

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>>144659202

Here you go.

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I used not to care about shojo either way but someone convinced me to read this shit and now I keep watching the anime despite the fact it only manages to fucking make me angry. Really, I had never realized how much I hate overemotional characters like Naho
>Feels kinda bad about not preventing Kakeru's mother from killing herself
>Breaks down and cries over him going out with another girl.
I want this cunt to suffer.

>>144660356
I wish I never asked

ORENJIironihayaku
naritaikajitsu
KIMInohikariwoabite
risouyayumewafukuramubakari
kidzuiteyonee
ORENJIkyoumo

>>144640909
>Did you also cry about Haruhi and Yuki being such bad people for remaking the world when they felt like it?
Personally I watch Haruhi as a cosmic horror story.

>>144660858
I thought Endless 8 was an analogy for hell.

>>144638893
Being gay is an exclusively 4chan thing anon

>>144659506
she's a teenage girl

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>>144659202
Because they wish Kakeru was there to see orange sunset of that day ten years in the future.

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>>144634719
>Self-inserting.
>Ever.
People who do this should die.

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I love that the manga-ka's twitter right now is just her being excited about how moe Hagita is. She was so sad when he lost her favorite boy poll.

>>144656413
No, they flat out say that it's going to create a new reality. That's the whole point.

>>144662187
>this again
We know that, but the characters there don't have a fancy narrator or manga pages explaining to them that. As far as Naho knows it could completely erase her current timeline and she's happily ready to sacrifice his daughter's life for her personal drama.

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>>144662161

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>>144662499

>>144662300
Their teacher explains the parallel universes thing to the entire class in the next chapter though, and it'll most definitely be adapted in next week's episode.

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>>144653039
>>144652897

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>>144662668

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>>144662764
G-ganbatte Hagita-kun!

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>>144662161
I love his seiyuu's delivery in the anime. Really seem to have captured his character. Looking forward to the last episode and his non-chalant admission to fucking up Kakeru's bike.

>>144662557
>it's ok because the teacher said it
I guess the teacher is an expert in time traveling and everybody should take his word as absolute the true fact.

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>>144662970
I agree. I wish they'd show more of his deadpans though.

>>144638269
One of the best characters of all time imo.

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JUST

>>144665005
That must've been hella' awkward.

They should have made a movie.

damn it hurts

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>hysterical bitches
holy shit

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>>144665168
they did http://kissasian.com/Drama/Orange/Movie?id=28890

>>144641848
nah just a teenager

>>144642062
She says afterwards that she would eventually fall in love with Suwa and Kakeru was just a teenager thing.

>>144649943
rolling girls was aoty

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>>144642062

>>144659236
That's because their design in the anime is fucked up.

>>144662446
>>144662499
>>144662553
reminder he is more popular than kakeru

>>144666233
The artstyle in general is ugly as fuck.

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>>144645361
>mfw

I wonder if this anime exists to make me as angry as possible.

>>144649943
>Amnesia MC didn't bother me this much. Fucking Amnesia-chan.

Now hold on. Amnesia-chan is generally a dumbfuck. Naho is a cute girl with social issues.

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>>144666283
nah, he should be though.

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>>144666283
>>144666415
Thought it was funny that Suwa won (and placed twice) on the character popularity poll, but Naho x Kakeru was still the most popular couple.

Japanese girls are ???

>>144662764
>I don't understand their relationship anymore
Good statement.

>>144634719
Dem mouths make my weewee stand up.

>>144665840
>reading comprehension
By the way everybody shitted on the Live Action.

>>144666288
Can you prove this?

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>>144666200
>She's right. It isn't true, papa.

>>144666415
rigged

he is legitimate #2

>>144666876
Yes.
>>144636012

>>144666200
>when you get outted and have to save face

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>>144666876
>>144666288

No, its cute as fuck