What the fuck did I just watch?

Judging by the pic i'll say Evangelion

>>144559291
Gundam

>>144559291
congratulations!

The greatest deconstruction of the Puella Magi Madoka Magica genre

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Now you need to watch this

>>144559291

Omedetou!

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>>144559452
>>144559291
>finish the anime
>2 last episodes are the most fucked up, unexplanaible shit I've ever seen
>everyone is saying "Congratulations!"
>it feels like they're trolling you and saying something like "Ahah! You watched this retarded anime! Congratulations faggot!"
Seriously what the fuck is wrong with this anime? Congratulations my ass.
This anime is like the Bible of Trolling.

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>>144559291
Now watch the better version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Bix44C1EzY

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>>144559694
>there are actual living human beings who think Madoka is better then NGE

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>>144559291
The pinacle of anime, everything past this point will look like shit in comparison

>>144559941
I mean, they still have End of Eva

>>144559596
>the most fucked up, unexplanaible shit I've ever seen
Watch more anime, watch more movies, read more books.

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>>144559982
You can literately watch the movie for like 20x more fucked up shit

>>144559596
you need to watch end of evangelion plus other movies plus the new adaptation
>then you start to understand that you dont understand shit

but seriously people who doesnt know evangelion and watch anime are fucking heretic

>>144559596
Actually, 25 and 26 were a more complete ending of the anime regarding what it was about, namely the characters' personalities, insecurities, feelings, etc.

The story and lore and everything else are nothing more than a huge plot device so that the characters exist in some sort of setting and face their respective obstacles. Watch EoE tho, it finishes the story and adds some stuff to the 25 and 26 stuff.

>>144559291
A pretentious as fuck, badly directed mess.

Have fun spending the rest of your life being tricked into thinking it's a masterpiece.

>>144560213
>Badly directed

This is literally the most retarded thing I've heard in a while

>>144560213
>badly directed
Elaborate.

>>144560343
>>144560349
I guess all the terribly done budget saving scenes and the horrible ending weren't his fault at all.

>>144560349
>Elaborate.
it's just bait

Neo Degenerate Emancipation

>>144560403
Please provide specific examples while explaining what makes them bad, and let us know what you consider well-directed anime.

>>144560403
>have no budget
>improvise
>create iconic scenes

That's a testament to good directing, not bad. A bad director would have used stock footage to pad out the episode or reused animation frames

>>144560481
Inb4 "Erased"

>>144560522
>have no budget
The show actually had quite a high budget there where just many production issues

>>144560522
>create iconic scenes
They're not iconic for being good though, the elevator scene was 2 minutes of nothing and the ending was only that bad because he had no budget.

>>144560574
Ok, you have a chancenow to stop posting and we'll all agree to forget you embarrassment for not nowing what you are talking about. I suggest you take it.

>>144559291
The fake ending

>>144560622
Well no, look at some of the shots in the first few episodes, they are some of the most complex and fucking detailed shots in any anime ever. You look around Evangelion and you'll see hand movements that don't need to be there etc. The BUDGET at the start of Evangelion was pretty above average for the time, many issues including having to scrap almost two episodes is what made the show have all of the issues. Please educate yourself.

>>144560481
The only good thing about the ending was the art school application animation, the rest was just trash that was retconned as soon as the movie came out.


>let us know what you consider well-directed anime
Ping Pong

>>144560738
You did not provide any specific examples to elaborate on.
Please try again.

>>144560877
I'm sorry I'm not going to rewatch something I watched years ago so you can blast me with your knowledge from wiki articles you wrote.

>>144560522
>A bad director would have used stock footage to pad out the episode or reused animation frames
That's exactly what he at the end though because he was too indecisive.

>>144560722
The production company cut the budget after complaints from the network due to inapropriate content and the studio's subsequent non-compliance.

Nevertheless, the show made the best it could with what it had and in what can only happen by virtue of the profound incompetence of the known hack-director Hideaki Anno, they managed to make some of the most memorable and brilliant scenes by doing less.

>>144560917
How unfortunate.
It's almost like your criticism was made up of vague blanket statements that you couldn't elaborate on due to your lack of technical knowledge.

But nah, that's just me being silly.

>>144561022
I guess I just need to read your 5000 word wiki article on the elevator scene to get how deep it is, sorry for shitting on the first thing you watched as a teen that was slightly intellectual.

>>144560917
>this show is bad, but i can't remember why it's bad

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>>144559596
>literally too stupid to understand Evangelion

>>144561085
Does it comfort you to make up unrealistic identities for the people you disagree with?

NGE is not a masterpiece, but for the medium it's pretty good.

If you want to be a contrarian, at least try to back it up.

>>144561207
If you don't want to be labeled as one don't act like one, it's not hard to remember the horrible budget saving scenes, there are multiple that are just a still image for minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUkaoy1Pr7E

>>144561260
>watching anime for the budget

>>144561260
What would a good director have done with the same budget limitations?

No one is claiming that the show is flawless.
Most fans of the show still hate the ending.
But there's a fine line between flawless and "A pretentious as fuck, badly directed mess."
One is the opinion of a delusional fanboy, and the other that of a delusional contrarian.

Aside from the elevator scene, can you name the other multiple scenes that are just still images for several minutes?

>>144561207
But NGE IS actually a masterpiece. And not because it's deep or whatever, either. I actually never got why people say it's 2deep4u when actually it's pretty straight forward barring some side details that are less explicit (like the orphan higschool of pilots).

>>144561499
I meant in relation to other media, as the guy was clearly hinting at being some sort of intellectual art house patrician.

Compared to other anime, NGE is great.

>>144561260
>minutes

I know you're exaggerating to try and make your point but it really just makes you look like a jackass.

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>>144561260
You're an idiot. Budget cuts isn't an argument. If it resulted in bad scenes then the bad scenes can be debated and argued, but the budget is irrelevant to the discussion. I'd say at least one of the resulting scenes from the cuts turned out to be one of the best from the whole show.

>>144561441
Most of the budget saving scenes were done because Anno is a hack, he only had the idea of adding the psychological scenes in episode 16 because he has no idea how to plan. He didn't even step up his game for the ending, he barely decided what it'd be in time.

>Aside from the elevator scene, can you name the other multiple scenes that are just still images for several minutes?

The scene where he's holding Kaworu, a few train station scenes. I can't remember.

>>144561586
No, but I'm not giving it any wishy-washy qualifications or asterisks.

NGE is a masterpiece. Like Hamlet is a masterpiece. Like Citizen Kane is a masterpiece.

>>144561613
I'm pretty sure I remember the elevator scene and the grab scene being at least a minute and a half long with nothing but a still, I haven't watched in years though.

>>144561637
I never understood why people hated stills in Eva. I thought it had some of the best stills in any anime.

>>144559291
overrated trash

>>144561676
This is still a stupid argument because it doesn't matter wether what came out was intentional or planned or not. Of course Anno is a hack. What matters is what ended up happening and what we got was amazing.

>>144561637
Budget cuts are fine, budget saving scenes caused by the director being a mess aren't fine.

>>144561676
You didn't answer my first question.

>The scene where he's holding Kaworu, a few train station scenes. I can't remember.
The Kaworu scene cuts between several perspectives, even if it's cheaply made.
It's nowhere near a still image for "minutes".
Please specify the other scenes.

>>144561676
>I can't remember
Can't make this shit up.

>>144561795
>You didn't answer my first question.
Because the budget limitations were caused by anno, a good director wouldn't have had the problem.

>Please specify the other scenes.
>I can't remember

>>144561787
I wouldn't call it amazing but it did have a lot of potential, if it were an OVA and went for the psychological stuff from the start it'd be a masterpiece.

>>144561791
"Budget saving scenes" isn't a thing in the context of this discussion. There are only "Good scenes", "Bad scenes" and everything in between. Are there bad scenes you don't like? If so, tell me which ones and why without using your stupid crutch irrelevant argument of muh budget and we'll argue.

>>144561874
What happens with the finances during production of the show does not change how well the director does with the resources at his disposal when actually directing.
A film can be well-directed even if a producer fucks the budget up.

You didn't even address the part where the "multiple scenes of still images" part of your argument was bullshit.
Come on now, you're slipping.

>>144562085
The elevator scene is one and a half minutes of nothing, the Kaworu death scene is a minute of nothing after some dialogue, yeah I exaggerated because of memory loss but Jesus Christ, calm down.

>What happens with the finances during production of the show does not change how well the director does with the resources at his disposal when actually directing.

The finances were fine, it was just production issues because of Anno changing his mind.

>>144559596
Did some people actually not understand what was going on in the last 2 episodes?

>>144561946
How isn't Anno fucking up the budget and having no time to make something he wanted not relevant to him being a bad director?

>Are there bad scenes you don't like?
I don't remember disliking many scenes, mostly just the ones we're talking about with immersion breaking nothingness that makes me check to see if I accidentally paused.

I feel like the Kaworu death scene would've been great if they didn't have the anti climactic minute long of nothing. Maybe Anno wanted to get the most out of what he payed for the music.

>>144559291
We have this thread every week.
Fuck you OP, and fuck all of you who bump this shit thread.

>>144562281
>How isn't Anno fucking up the budget and having no time to make something he wanted not relevant to him being a bad director?
Because I'm not arguing wether or not Anno is a good director. I don't care about Anno, I care about NGE.

>I feel like the Kaworu death scene would've been great if they didn't have the anti climactic minute long of nothing.

And this is where I find you totally wrong because the time freeze adds and builds up the tension because you really don't now wether Shinji will kill Kowaru or not, since he is basically choosing between his humanity and humanity as a whole, and his particular character makes you believe he actually could choose to forsake humanity as a whle to keep his own humanity and sanity, and you can almost see the cogs working inside of EVA01's pilot chamber and it was a brilliant decision to not show shinji's face and let the shot linger from a distance, letting what is happening inside to your imagination. Was he crying? Did he scream? Did he just freeze in fear at the prospect of having to make such a decision? Whatever your imagination conjures up is more powerfull than anything they could've shown there.

In short, it's a perfect scene regardless of wether or not that's the way the director wanted it to be all along or not.

>>144562559
It built up the tension and completely lost it for me because it took so long, did you really feel it was such a good scene when you watched it for the first time?

>>144562755
Yes.I specifically remember thinking that was one of the best scenes I'd seen in anything.This was before I knew of anything about the production.

>>144559291
the logical conclusion to anime, enjoy not enjoying any other anime from this point on

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>>144559869
They're not humans

>>144560343
Anno literally wrote EoE just to shit on the series.

>>144559869
people have great taste

I prefer the trippy series ending to the EoE ending. EoE is great don't get me wrong but it's ending is so unambiguously grim that it doesn't fit as well with the possibility of recovery that the series itself always teased.

>>144559291
Watch end of evangelion. Half way through, pause, watch ep 25 and 26 then return to finish the second half of EoE.

Overall the show is pretty good and is arguably a masterpiece, but it's flawed masterpiece.

Having to rewatch a series to fully understand it is both a blessing and a curse. I means the series has depth to which it can support a rewatch but also means that the series is trying too hard and is unable to get it's message across in a single watch.
Regardless, it's good but take it as a cup of tea. Might be your flavor, might not.

Congratulations!

Nothing special.

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How many fucking times have we had this same thread with this same image. And how many more fucking times are you guys going to reply to it?

>>144559291

Gay autism that menchildren on /a/ vehemently defend, even though they themselves can't make any sense of it. But it's precisely because they don't understand it that they revere it as much as they do, because it HAS to be awesome, otherwise they're all retarded. It was a mistake to watch it.

>>144560622
>take time to give an epic le funny insult
Why didn't you just tell him budget was taken away and for what reason you fucking retard

>>144559291
>VLC
Get MPC you'll thank me later

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>>144559291
Congratulations!

>>144561925
>went for the psychological stuff from the start
It did. Episode 4. The other episodes build up the external images of the cast and the episodes post ep.14 destroy these images.

>>144560164
desu the plot was more interesting than the average jap drama characters