Now I'm getting hungry for something.
Subaru's anus like all the strongest people in Re:Zero want to penetrate?
Reminder that if you don't love this man when he confesses, you are by all means, a faggot.
Are we gonna get this backstabbing bitch be shown of his true colors?
I literally want to rip that thing's head off
I wouldn't mind if it was some normal looking dude talking shit like that but I ain't gonna let some small ass fucking cat bitch talk to me like that, I aint no punk.
even if she is able to kick my ass
Do that to Tomoko.
The author is just baiting otakus, waifufags, and self-inserters. This entire thing is building up expectations then tearing them down. I think in the anime it was extremely evident in the first two episodes: it was such an extremely generic isekai it was obviously done on purpose, right up until he got gutted, repeatedly.
Anyone who thinks Rem has any chance is delusional, to Subaru she's just a very good friend, that's all.
What if Emilia is just Satella or a fragment of her without memories? Perhaps the bonds keeping her sealed aren't all that great and she could get one half (since she's two, Satella and Envy) out?
Reader told off Remfags simply by saying there's no indication of Rem being a very important character. No romantic feelings whatsoever and it was plain guilt.
BTFO so hard.
Quite sure someone who reads nip and has read all of it (well, all that is released so far anyway) basically said "Nope, Rem isn't even in the race". Didn't see it myself though.
Got a link and/or verbatim quote?
It's a big motivation but far from the driving force. If a friend who saved your life a few times and died defending you a few more was a vegetable, you'd try to help too, but you wouldn't fuck him, would you?
You need to realize Subaru only has eyes for Emilia.
And they interpret that as Romantically.
>It's a big motivation but far from the driving force.
Not even that, like the anon in the other thread said, it's more like visiting a comatose relative in the hospital. Subaru has moved on, if he finds a way or a trace of a way to bring her back he will be happy to, but he's not dedicating his existence to it, far from it.
Best girl is Satella and she was never not winning.
I don't get his point though. While he is right about Rem not being Subaru's everything meaning he wasn't a destroyed person that had his happiness hinged on her, he was quite adamant about turning a blind eye on the romantic side of the novel though.
For what it is worth, the novel uses tragic romance quite a lot so to deny that Rem nothing more because she was just character whos only purpose is to love Subaru and that's it.
I know he's credible but he's kinda looking at this a much too one sided aspect. Even Satella's plot seems to indicate Romance.
I'm not saying who should win or what. Something is definitely happening though. Judging by Greycat's words such popular side characters are his Toys for inflicting drama. Shit's gonna hit the fan regarding Rem and it's possibly related to her affection towards Subaru.
>Rem comes back
>finds Subaru is about to release Satella/Emilia
>goes berserk partly because he's helping Satella partly because of ENVY
>Satella/Emilia just vaporizes her on the spot
>no more return by death, not that Subaru cares enough to do it anyway
That would be the ultimate Remfag destruction, though I doubt there will be many left by then.
Looks good, put Priscilla at the top centre.
Judging from those replies, yeah for some reason he was trying to brush off all romantic plots in this series which is silly since the main motive at the start of this show used it. Nobody should ever ignore Ley or even Wilhelm's words.
I don't know why I come here anymore
All I see is intense shitposting
What exactly is this position trying to convey?
>he wasn't a destroyed person that had his happiness hinged on her
Does anyone actually think that? The general assumption is that he misses her a lot at times and that he still misses her, and hasn't just completely moved on or decided to leave it all in the past.
Not totally BTFO though since he only had one good argument that was actually true though.
It is true that Subaru has had good times that didn't revolve around her. But to undermine the fact that there are hints THAT ARE NOT SO SUBTLE pointing to what Rem might bring later on is really stretching it. He's also trying to inject what he wants rather than trying to be objective about it.
I wouldn't deny that there have been some posts I've seen that outright said such things or implied it to a higher degree. But yes, nobody in their right mind would believe that.
Getting into that sort of thing can be fun.
So, who was the person saying that certain things never happened when they actually did? That was the oddest part in that thread.
Hey the anon last thread here. I never denied Rem factored somewhere in romance, but she essentially in the role of unrequited love interest. Her loving Subaru isn't all that important because he's already decided who heart belongs too. Even when he thinks about Rem, it's always about her loss as a friend than romantic partner on his end. Even now he'll only accept her Rem if Emilia is okay with it, but his strong feelings towards Emilia won't change to Rem. It's just not fitting thematically with the plot.
And nothing with Satella is going to happen. Subaru will find why she loves at one point, but he isn't going to love her.
The author has has basically building up Subaru and Emilia relationship through series both in their ups and downs and everything that has happened has only made it stronger because it has allow them to see more sides of each other.
So subaru cannot tell anyone his secret of him respawning after death in which he tells Emilia, and she dies.
And the author has said that reinhard is OP as fuck in this world.
Shouldn't Subaru be discussing this with reinhard of all people?
Also where do I read the LN, or WN?
That's actually really good to hear. I'm glad to see that Subaru will eventually grow out of obsessing over Emilia or Rem, and he actually begins to strengthen his bonds with other people to the point where he considers them family. It's sad that waifuwars prevent fans from seeing that this is the sort of development that Subaru needs.
Subaru was like many posters on this board. He probably had a waifu during the NEET days, and now he's slowly growing out of that mentality. At the same time, it's nice to see that he hasn't abandoned his friend.
I think the AU isn't just meant to show that Rem won't win Subaru, but that Subaru's ending won't be him settling down and having a family. Given the tone of Re:Zero, a bittersweet ending would be perfect.
For the last time, Subaru has no idea how OP Reinhardt is, plus he can't exactly save Emilia if he's nowhere near her to tell what went wrong.
Not to say ha Reinhardt wouldn't be happy to be with Subaru and whatnot, but Satella could probably just do the same thing she did to Emilia as well.
>Her loving Subaru isn't all that important because he's already decided who heart belongs too. Even when he thinks about Rem, it's always about her loss as a friend than romantic partner on his end. Even now he'll only accept her Rem if Emilia is okay with it, but his strong feelings towards Emilia won't change to Rem. It's just not fitting thematically with the plot.
That's where you're missing it. You're already accepting the fact that it's not important since only the author could only say that. The future is a blank paper as of now. We could only insinuate or theorize about what will happen but nothing is certain.
I don't care who's ending with who though. The path could lead to a more tragic end. If there's one thing Tappei knows what he's doing, it's utilizing what the readers want to his advantage. What he wills, we don't know. So again it's pointless.
Not even Reinhardt can do shit against Return By Death, he gets resetted and wiped like everyone else. Even if him being told won't kill him, Subaru would be killed instead and Reinhardt would forget everything.
>It is true that Subaru has had good times that didn't revolve around her. But to undermine the fact that there are hints THAT ARE NOT SO SUBTLE pointing to what Rem might bring later on is really stretching it. He's also trying to inject what he wants rather than trying to be objective about it.
No I'm not. You're trying to inject false hopes Suabru will suddenly turn and drop everything and turn to Rem even though he's decided by his own will who he loves. Suabru wants to be with Emilia and has made vows to that end. He's already checked his feeling about her and Rem. So regardless what Rem might bring with her reappearance into the story unless Greycat change the core of his story:
"Excerpt from the end of Arc 3"
>Under the setting sun, an outlander and a silvered hair half elf continue to exchange their feelings.
>Many loops of despair and sadness that continued for a long time, finally overcame them and achieved this quiet, peaceful time.
>This is just a story to reach those quiet peaceful time. This is just a story with long lost winding roads, where feelings intervened
>A boy without self confidence, letting his feelings known to a girl without self confidence. This is just a story to try his best for a purpose like that.
The entirety of Re:Zero is one big Return By Death that doesn't keep memories (maybe rather than Subaru's death, it's triggered by Satella's death at the end? Maybe Subaru hit a dead end in the last loop?), this loop will be the one he actually manages to win.
She is actually
immense, stupidly strong. She has two siblings, and they're also powerful...But dead weight compared to her.
But yeah, it would be absurdly humiliating to get your shit pushed in by a catperson half your size.
>You're already accepting possibility as a fact that it's not important since only the author could only say that.
Then let me rephase, Rem's feelings are important to her character show how she come to regard Subaru as someone special and just as how Garfiel come to look up Suabru as older brother. But they don't effect his feelings towards Emilia.
>You're trying to inject false hopes Suabru will suddenly turn and drop everything and turn to Rem even though he's decided by his own will who he loves.
Just stop. I'm not even saying that Rem will be the end game but you're definitely dead set on brushing her off. You're concocting your own ending the way you see it fit. There have been several moments of foreshadowing happening. I'm not saying they're guaranteed to happen but there's definitely something grim on the horizon.
So whatever. Your argument about the wildcard was weak just because Rem was an open book that had her backstory revealed?
And once again you completely missed the point. Let's just drop it here. It's pointless arguing about what could happen.
Speculations are fun when both parties are open to possibilities and you're way too closed on your side.
It's because Emilia is the main impetus to the plot. If Rem's the heroine, basically the story ends right there. If Subaru ever gives up on trying to get into Emilia's panties, there's no longer any impetus to the plot. It's the same as him going "Yeah, fuck this, I'm going to have adventures somewhere I don't die ALL THE FUCKING TIME." and buggering off for good.
At this point my only opinion on the main plot is that I doubt it's all going to go smoothly, or as smoothly as you could expect from a timeloop story. I suppose everything could go exactly as planned, without any major fuckups along the way, but that almost reduces things to just marching forward until he succeeds in a story in which he's not allowed to truly fail.
At some point, you've got to derail the train and watch the mess it makes.
Yes I did but nothing I said of deny her important as character to Suabru nor did I ever say such. I only said she not going effect Subaru and Emilia's relationship which you keep pin these "so-called' subtle hints on. I'm telling how it is objectively using Subaru's own words and other clear information. You're just twisting my meaning to make it sound inslur.
But hey, believe what you want. I'll stick to what the characters have actually said and done towards own desires unless something happens to make them change those desires.
>So whatever. Your argument about the wildcard was weak just because Rem was an open book that had her backstory revealed?
Yes, because you already know what you need to know about her. Not knowing her precise future actions is irrelevant, because 1) we know what motivates her, 2) This can be applied t anybody.
You just came up with that to make her seem more important than she is. Calling me close minded when I haven't even doubted she may play some other role is speaks more about your bias.
My point nothing more about her has been foreshadowed beyond her simply coming back doing what she been doing since Arc 3. If she going to be doing anything beyond we didn't know, but we can go off what we do know and that everything in relation to her backstory and her feelings for Subaru until something is said otherwise. It's what defines her at this point.
Shut the fuck up boi. You think he actually loves Emilia? In what context? Bonding moment, I don't know how anyone except a web novel reader could actually like her; and the sad fact is most readers don't cherish Emilia moments but rather interactions with side characters
Subaru likes Satella more then Emilia. When he was dying he felt actual attachment to her, and it's likely his attraction to Emilia is nothing more then just a "Similarity" of appearance to Satella. Sad fact huh, now shut up about Rem when your own girl isn't even loved.
You and I might have a slightly different idea of "smoothly". I don't mean everything turning out the way Subaru likes it. I mean everything more or less going according to plan, even if there are casualties along the way.
Even now, it's already pretty clear to see that Candidates and Bishops are removed at more or less the same time according to the Sin they represent. If the pattern continues, Emilia will be the sole remaining candidate once all of the Bishops have been defeated. It's just my impression, but Subaru is clearly on someone's rails and he might not like where they're headed. Then again, maybe he'll be perfectly fine with it by the end. Whatever the case, I want to see a trainwreck by the end.
I'm not denying that Subaru's goal right now is Emilia but you gotta accept that for whatever direction the development takes it probably won't be a simple end as him falling for anyone and living a life with them. Based on how this series went, it's pretty much borderline unpredictable. Do tell me that you haven't encountered a series where the male and female protag didn't end up with each other.
There were multiple posts in previous threads describing it.
I'll ask you again, what did Emilia do to make Subaru love her so much? In my eyes, she is just and currently just a token waifu with a few good moments. That's it.
Technically, she saved him from dying his first loop. But a lot of anons believe that
Satella is using her power to cause Subaru to love Emilia more than he actually should, given what Emilia did for him.
Why doesn't Subaru just play the ballad of the windfish and pacify the whale?
Greycat actually wrote a story to this.
>Emilia is a student model along with Priscilla and Crusch.
>The story is a blog post written by Emilia with the help of Rem because she is terrible with technology.
>Crusch loves playing video games but she sucks at it, they were playing monhun before the photoshoots.
>Felix is the fashion/makeup guy.
>Anatasia is the manager and drives Emilia home.
>Beatrice became Emilia's little sister here and Puck is their cat.
>Emilia mention that she got her hair from her mother and they look alike.
Guys, it's easy. Follow my story if you like it, but don't self insert as me. My kokoro is complex and you can't change it according to your wishes.
>I'm not denying that Subaru's goal right now is Emilia but you gotta accept that for whatever direction the development takes it probably won't be a simple
>all this delusional Remfag bullshit
You aren't fooling anybody.
Are Remfags in massive damage control today or something?
You're fucking idiot if can't plain see that he likes her because of her personality. THey had most interactions in show until arc 3 just because you selectively ignore it doesn't mean it didn't happened. Jesus Christ.
I can easily selectively disregard the bonds of any character just as doing now regardless of because I said so. It doesn't make true.
Even if wasn't a pairing I care for I won't be so dumb to not recognize that because of some stupid bias fulled bogus excuses. How about watch/read the fucking show?
Also the story doesn't give a shit what you think about her or anyone for that matter.
Ok. So she's beautiful, she's nice, she's helpful. So what? Didn't Emilia herself call out Subaru on the fact that his image of her is super perfect? That type of love is superficial. They need to connect and see their true selves, which they haven't done as seen in the blowout.
Of course. Complex. My kokoro won't change easily. You can hate my choices but I'll never act according to your wishes.
He healed himself when he revived
No you nimrod. She don't understand why Subaru is affection towards her because she has no idea of his loops where he seen more sides of her. To her Suabru only met her at loot house in this timeline.
Ram and Beatrice called Suabru out for the same thing in Arc 2 before he jump from the cliff. Suabru always gonna to be closer to others than they are to him because various bonds throughout multiple timelines.
Back at you, "Nimrod". She implies another side of herself during the argument. Can you not see past the exterior of a person? Or better yet
Are you the guy who posted that relationships aren't supposed to be built on trust and support? Nah, I'm just kidding about this.
Just imagine 4 cats as huge as the big dog subaru fought in the forest each grabbing a boot or a leg, paving the way for their boss cat to teach the lil' Felix kitten a lesson.
No lube, either. As a man, he should be able to handle some rough handling.
Subaru's words are one aspect. What other characters say are just as important. I'm not twisting anything here its just that you are hellbent on downplaying it. You keep saying things like I'm implying Rem is someone who should be a main character of some sorts when clearly that is not the point. It doesn't have to be a main character to have some relevance in the story. You're being way too linear with your views.
Also it seems like you're saying Rem doesn't impact the main characters when clearly she has. So yeah I'm not injecting here but you're clearly shutting things off. End of discussion.
No her argument is she doesn't think that highly of herself not that she's hiding murderous sadistic side. Subaru has since a lot like he has with everyone and as far as his experiences are concerned she better than she thinks she is.
But like always he cannot convery his situation so they can understand. Apparently you can't grasp nuance perspective the series has been running when comes to Suabru and his interactions with people.
-So where is her impact SUabru froming his alliance with Crusch and Anastasia? Or the Royal Election in general?
-Where is her impact in the events of Arc 4?
-Where is her impact in Arc 5 or the Witch Cult in general?
-How about the Pleiades Tower where she finally gets so screen... as motionless doll in a wheelchair?
We talk about impact and effect she ahd on Subaru sure.. but that is about because other than her sister, Rem doesn't much connection to everything else.
She good character like everyone else, but there just not whole a lot going on with her right now beyond waiting to be saved,
Not the guy you replied to but that makes sense, i mean she's in a coma, what can she do?
I'd like to see if she woke up if she would accept all the shady shit he's doing if she happens to find out about it. I mean if the Ram spoilers are to be believed where she loves Roswaal despite finding out everything he did, i'd like to see if Rem's love would outweight her feelings of wanting to be against the methods he chooses.
Better yet, i'd like to see how Rem would react if she found out Ram is fully aware of what Roswaal did.
Did I say she was hiding a sadistic side? No.
But what I'm saying is that he doesn't understand her fully. How can a relationship work like that? You can't only focus on the charming side of a partner; you must acknowledge their flaws as well and accept them.
Also her inferiority side isn't that great either. She left Subaru when he clearly needed other words to calm him down. You could justify "Subaru was acting like a dick he deserves this" but to just leave when this person needs some clear help?
Rem changing Subaru is what she should have done. and I will acknowledge Emilia is perfectly capable of doing that but she sorely underestimated herself and instead left.
>I literally want to rip that thing's head off
>normal looking dude talking shit like that but I ain't gonna let some small ass fucking cat bitch talk to me like that, I aint no punk
If this isn't the best way to declare to /a/ that you're underage, then I don't know what is.
She'd be wary of trying too hard to change him. From Zero does it, but it was more of a moral boost when he was feeling down, because she has full confidence in his judgement.
You can't expect a single person to change someone radically THAT much, unless they're extremely important to each other. And i figure Rem wouldn't want to change him much, since she fell in love with him like that. She'd instead try to steer him into the right path.
Also, do you seriously think she had the time to try and make him less jumpy if they went for the mansion in the first loop? He'd die like he did when he found the frozen room, she was well aware, and since there was no time to do anything else, she put him to sleep thinking to leave him out of danger. Maybe it wasn't the right move for his self esteem at the time, but she doesn't know he can come back from the dead, so to her, leaving out out of the danger was the best move she could do for his safety.
My point that is more complicated then that. You do not need to know person fully to like them. Suabru didn't know Rem and Ram fully before he started caring about them. What attracted him to everyone in the mansion was what he knew about them and how they helped him. He knows enough about them for him to consider them good people.
What they think about themselves and what flaws he learns about them in the future won't change that unless it extreme which at that point they won't be able to hide it anyway.
Yes, that would be interesting. But Ram seems to have settled most of that issue so I don't know what she could contribute there. I just feel like her new role be supporting Suabru and Emilia than anything honestly. With Subaru being Emilia's right hand man and Rem being his right hand woman.
That son of a bitch. He was faking it all this time with the tears.
>best healer, knows what can't be healed
>only person who can deceive Crusch
> You do not need to know a person fully to like them
I mostly agree. It's just in a matter of love and also a manner of expectation you at least need to know the persons good and bad side.
I don't want to argue this any further.
Polygamy is ok in this world and so Subaru could make both his wives, and whoever else is to come as well. The polygamous end can also be justified with the greed authority, in which it gets more useable the more wives you have.
I bet that inhuman beast also serves the Witch Cult.
If you could give Rem one thing what would it be?
In From Zero Rem was pretty much just a moral boost for him.
Internally Subaru had already what his problems was and why Emilia and everyone else turned away from him.
Excerpt From Zero:
"I want to see the smile of Emilia. I want to help her to get a future. Even if she say that i am a nuisance, even if she don't want me close to her... i want to stay always by her side."
Subaru check again inside him, the feelings haven't changed even after receive Rem's feelings.
But, those fiery feelings were different from before.
" Expect to understand everything and wish something in exchange of my love to her.. is very prideful from me."
And that where Subaru started to shed his hollow pride and taken into more understanding perspectives others. His feeling are genuine but Suabru had come to realization that his approach to conveying them to her had been wrong.
If you could give Emilia one thing what would it be?
When he first showed up I thought he would be the annoying whore girl who doesn't actually do anything but lusts Subaru's cock while being bitchy. Thank god I was wrong.
Yeah, but the point of attraction is that it is just a door to get into a house and build a relationship in the first place. You will eventually learn about the person from there, but it is motivation not the end point.
Agreed. Too bad the thing that happens to her though...
>you will never share a casual drink with Crusch while gazing upon the night sky
Why even live?
>you will never share a casual drink with Crusch while gazing upon the night sky as Felix comes in and gives you life lessons
I bet he starts drinking after the timeskip.
And yes, the capital looks fucking cool.
So after Crusch loses her memories, are there moments when Felix breaks?
>you will never shove Crusch's face to the ground, denying her any form of even visual pleasure to distract her from the pain of your 9 inch cock going up her ass while you lick Felix's asshole
Could someone inform me about the point of living at this point?
Reminder that Emilia did nothing wrong.
Um no she was. In Arc 1 Elsa was after Emilia. Arc 2 the Beats Tamer was targeting the entire household. Ar 3 had the Witch Cult striking Roswaal's territory after Emilia's existence was revealed. I won't bring up Arc 4-5 for obvious reasons. Now in Arc 6
she is one of the reason why they're in the tower, but Subaru as looking to fix Anastasia condition and looking for way to restore Priestella after Witch Cult wrecked it.
>but Crusch is actually getting better sort of
I already know about arc 4 and a little bit about 5. Thanks for your consideration.
It is because of Rem that Subaru decides to do something in the world instead of just "living". It's also because of Rem and her morale boost that Subaru managed to form alliances, and indirectly allowed him to combat the events in arc 4. Her loss also gives him drive to become stronger; and that he does until he can actually fight royal knights in sword play. I'll admit, from what little I've heard of arc 5 I cannot say she has any involvement within it. While I cannot say she had direct involvement, she is part of the reason Subaru now hunts Archbishops (even to a certain extent)
So while my comment before is invalid, significant portions of it contain truth
So, if there are still any WNfags here, what does anyone know about the Gospel? It kind of seems like one of the most important aspects of the story, yet no one has really gone into it. Seemingly omniscient artifacts that hand out selective information, and perhaps even eventually betray their owners to further the goal they were made for, sounds like something important.
Where did Roswaal get his? Is it actually much different from the ones the Archbishops have, or did it just give Roswaal more information on Subaru because that's what it needed Roswaal to know?
Speaking of which, I just noticed this part in the synopsis.
making sure to take Betelgeuse's gospel book along with him, which he somehow became able to read.
Should that be worrying?
Subaru returned to the grave, but soon after he was pulled back to the trial, this time to view his 12th death, the time Ferris and Julius had killed him along with Betelgeuse. He watched as everyone there grieved for him, with Julius stating that he had wanted to be friends with him.
Reminder that these guys have their slimy tongues slither into their victims ears. They also love to lick people's wounds in a disturbing way and mimic their victims.
> Touching backstory time
> Surely the story wasn't depressing enough.
Not one single thing of that is true outside the moral boost (which Emilia done before on a smaller scale). Emilia has been his reason living in this world and staying that mansion to begin with. All his actions both good and bad were directly tied to his feelings for Emilia. Even the training he does undergoes to is support her not Rem, especially now that he's become her official Knight in between Arc 4 and 5.
Does Subaru need to reject Rem a 2nd time for you understand that mainly views her as a close friend and lover second?
I don't know, but I want to become her semen slave.
Because without the support of other characters he breaks down mentally and completely loses track of what he wants to do. As evident in few examples already.
We know Subaru will eventually break the loop and set the new checkpoint - but the question is, at what cost.
Because you faggots seem to forget that he don't control checkpoints
>hurr just spend your entire life training them die
>oh shit the checkpoint moved to when I am 60 years old and now I can't do shit
>I got 4 days until I die
>spend 4 days X 1000 times reading every fucking magical book in that library of the lands greatest magician
Shit he learned how to use basic magic in a week
Hell he uses the gaming lingo all the time to describe events and abilities, you would think he would realise how to abuse a save/load feature.
That's just shitty writing.
What's the difference between spending 10 years learning magic and spending 10 years learning magic in a 4 day loop.
99% of the population lives monotonous lives and you don't see them going insane
>witch stench increases every time you die
>do this shit and die thousands of times reading books and swinging a sword around
>oh shit you stink so fucking bad
>permanently a social pariah
>monsters will come to your stank for miles and will probably kill everyone between you and them, meaning that you are a walking natural disaster
>Reinhard is still stronger than you and will probably have to put you down
>Can't actually die so you are trapped in an infinite loop of being exterminated by him
>Probably won't even be able to finish your training before the stench gets too bad
>Satella will be disappointed that you got nowhere
It's shitty writing. You have information he does not. He has not read the AU. He does not know that looping may have negative effects. Yet he doesn't even TRY looping for training.
You cannot justify his decision based on information he does not have access to.
But he is already doing the exact thing people are advocating, only in an inefficient manner.
Is it better to spend 1000 days learning swordsmanship or magic or 2000 days dying over and over at different intervals because you have no skills to help you overcome your obstacle.
If you are studying for an exam, do you take your time and learn the subject at hand or do you blindly take the exam 40 times and each time only study a minimal amount.
He doesn't even know what that means, nor can he actually smell it.
I'm actually baffled that after he learns to use some basic magic in 30 minutes that he deosn't spend, looping or not looping time trying to learn more magic. Not to mention a wiazard straight up tells him he can ask for anything and he has a spirit that's also willing to help
He fractured his gate with his very first spell, and everyone else advises that he get that treated before he does any more magic. I highly doubt anyone would be willing to encourage him to keep sprinting on a broken foot.
You have to look at this from a net benefit standpoint.
If you spend 100 loops training, you can use that training in the upcoming X, Y, Z loops to finish them in a shorter amount of time.
If you spend 50 loops, without raining, just to finish loop X, then another 50 loops to finish loop Y and so on in the end you are at a net-loss.
>You have information he does not.
>He doesn't know any of that.
In a recent episode Rem straight up tells him that he stinks even worse than before after dying and coming back, and the effects of the witch's stench have been explained throughout the show. He even abuses the stench by trying to tell Ram his ability, increasing it to lure monsters to his location.
He doesn't spend entire time loops where he straight up intends to die. He spends each one as if it might be his last chance or he only kills himself after they become irreparably fucked (ex. people he cares about are already dead).
Overall, he's spent a pretty small amount of loops getting this far compared to most of the ideas, nowhere near 1000+ days at all
and the whale is still here.
Also the 1st arc didn't need training because Reinhard showed up. The 2nd one wasn't meant to be solved by getting strong, but getting the people in the mansion to trust him. The 3rd wouldn't be solved by training alone either even if he became as strong as Rem.
The fuck are talking about? Did like miss when Betty and Rem told about him about his scen? Or part where he used his scent to aggro monsters those demon dogs in the forest?
Don't go around claiming what Subaru knows or doesn't know when you can't even keep track of he does.
How could he conclude that reviving makes the smell stronger from that? There isn't nearly enough evidence. If he concludes that reviving makes the smell stronger, why doesn't he mention it?
At the very least, he should CONSIDER looping for training. He should mention that it might help, but then say that it might make him go crazy and that he's concerned about abusing the magic. But he doesn't. He doesn't consider the idea, despite the fact that it's the first thing anyone would think of in his situation.
He isn't acting in a realistic way.
Here's another way in which he acts irrationally: he doesn't try hard AT ALL to tell people about his revivals. He mentions it out loud, but why doesn't he try:
>writing it down
>saying that he definitely does NOT revive (nudge nudge wink wink)
>saying that some hypothetical third party revives when they die
Maybe none of those ideas would work, but he should have at least tested them. It's stupid to just give up after ten seconds.
This is one of my pet peeves in writing. Subaru does not follow a reasonable thought process. He doesn't reach believable conclusions based on the evidence he has. He just does what the author wants him to do.
>best healer, knows what can't be healed
>only person that can deceive Crusch according to Tappei
Is this completely impossible or could he have...
Lets take a break from arguements and speculation to focus on one thing
>He just does what the author wants him to do.
I agree with the point about telling people about the revivals. Subaru, at that point, doesn't know if the 'if you tell people, you die' thing hasn't got any loopholes to exploit. He later gets hints of Satella constantly watching him so it's not really a contract that can be abused anyway.
Also, Subaru didn't have that much free time between discovering magic and then breaking his magic gate to ponder the possibilities of using looping to make himself stronger, seeing as he/others was in mortal danger near constantly in the mansion arc.
Honestly he doesn't have to spend 10 minutes training, all he has to do is simply tell people the future that he lived through.
While there is a divergence, major events still transpire in similar ways.
What is there to discuss about? She has done nothing and will continue to do nothing until arc 4 which is her volume, and even then I have heard that side characters overshadow her in development and interaction.
>He isn't acting in a realistic way.
No your just ignoring the limits of his ability he knows to force your bullshit that you somehow think is smart. What you saying he do is extremely basic requires to actually control his ability and not turn into an empty shell from all his deaths.
He only knows that he smells like the Witch. He does NOT know that his smell gets worse each time he revives. It is entirely possible that the effect is temporary, in which case looping to train would be useful. He makes no attempt to find out.
It wouldn't even be hard. All he has to do is regularly ask Rem how much he smells like the Witch. If the scent gets worse and worse each time he revives, the training plan is unworkable. But if the scent gets better over the course of each revival and "resets" when he dies, the plan is go. It's an easy test which any reasonable person would do, yet he doesn't bother doing it.
Sure that went well for Crusche right?
Also he's not a clairvoyant. His surroundings can change depending on the actions taken. Remember when Roswaal left and he was surprised?
>. Subaru, at that point, doesn't know if the 'if you tell people, you die' thing hasn't got any loopholes to exploit.
Except does he knows because it has always work on intent not communication method. Do think Satella is dumb to a safeguard that could easily be bypassed by acting like smartass?
>not turn into an empty shell from all his deaths.
It's possible that would happen, but why would he expect it to? The only way you know it would happen is from reading an AU.
>He later gets hints of Satella constantly watching him so it's not really a contract that can be abused anyway.
Then why does she let him abuse it to draw the beasts to him?
He doesn't just have to know the smell exists. He has to believe that it gets irreversibly worse every time he revives. If it doesn't get irreversibly worse, there is no reason not to loop for training.
He probably knows that reviving makes him smell like the witch, but that's all he knows. That isn't enough information to veto the training loop.
Not him but wasn't stated trapcat despices weak people? If he hates them them is no surprise he gets rid off them if they try to get close to Crush who trapcat idolises as strong?
That doesn't change the fact that if he died then he would have known that the dog was cursing people and could have just told somebody.
Events do change but big parts of information gathered stay the same
That's because she's an EM-T vessel for Satella.
She's apparently called a vessel multiple times, with Satella's appearance one time being explained like this.
>the witch he encountered was an imitation of the real thing as the vessel was immature and none of her seals were broken
Way to miss my point. I am saying that at the point he when he knows about the dog, everything that happens afterwards is inconsequential, because he can just reset and tell the others about the dog.
Going into the forest was pointless at that point, sure you can give it a shot but if it fails it doesn't matter.
>He only knows that he smells like the Witch. He does NOT know that his smell gets worse each time he revives. It is entirely possible that the effect is temporary, in which case looping to train would be useful. He makes no attempt to find out.
Yes does because Betty and Rem had told specifically. The later has him repeatedly. Stop talking and actually pay attention to show.
>It wouldn't even be hard. All he has to do is regularly ask Rem how much he smells like the Witch. If the scent gets worse and worse each time he revives, the training plan is unworkable. But if the scent gets better over the course of each revival and "resets" when he dies, the plan is go. It's an easy test which any reasonable person would do, yet he doesn't bother doing it.
Please stop talking like you have any idea how his ability beyond what your told.
Training that way ain't gonna do shit. He won't keep his skill and he'll go insane from repeated deaths. Stop acting like this video game where getting killed does affect you.
God damn EMT is so hot
>“I think so. If you just give my name, they’ll know where to find me. I’d love to see you again, so stop by for any reason at all.”
What did he mean by this?
>Felix who despises people who have lost the will to live, loses the will to live.
>It's possible that would happen, but why would he expect it to? The only way you know it would happen is from reading an AU.
You need know read AU that he hates dying and gets PTSD from it? The AU only confirms it wouldn't be good end, but he wouldn't get point unless he gave on living and disregarded Satella's warning to love himself and cherish his own life.
Betty can because she is a spirit. Rem can't because her enhanced supernatural senses.
Nothing has been implied that Puck hasn't noiced, but he can read Subaru's mind to extent which let's him no whether somebody is lying or not so he's not worried about him.
Everything is obviously explainable by Subaru being a sleeper agent. He's not involved with the plot by coincidence or just because he felt like it, he was specifically placed there for that reason. Subaru is probably just following along the path that has been set for him, helping Satella's vessel pass the trials of the Witch Cult and mature to the right point.
EMT is for protecting her smile pls do not sex
Her body is literally made for hardcore fucking
It makes no sense to be honest. Why would he poison him, and the entire royal family?
The whole "your love is too weak" is not good enough of an excuse to be honest. I bet the royal family is the work of the witch, or somehow the work of Roswaal, who wanted to make an election happen to make use of Emilia.
>He does NOT know that his smell gets worse each time he revives
>But if the scent gets better over the course of each revival and "resets" when he dies
>Literally straight up told that he smells worse in two different loops out of three
How could you possibly deduce that it gets better with death when it's been established straight up that it gets worse instead?
Rem makes no comment saying that he smells better after they resolved arc 2 suggesting the smell remained constant from the time he woke up in arc 2 until he hit the save point in 3 and revived again, where it got worse suddenly. She even says that it's "worse than usual".
Also you're completely forgetting the fact that he believes there may be a limit to the number of chances he has for each loop, like a hard cap. Dying for real is a much bigger fear to him than getting stinky while being immortal. As far as he knows, he doesn't have infinite chances and isn't prepared to test it for obvious reasons.
Also do remember that training forever will only give him knowledge, and he cannot gain any muscle and improve his NEET body, or train his magic gate.
Also if he spends years training in loops, that's years of letting the only people you care about die in horrible ways while you sit on your ass reading books or swing a stick around. That's also years of killing yourself every couple days and generally not giving a shit about the world.
Do you honestly think he would be the same person after all of that, or give a shit about other people or life in general?
Not to mention, there's no way he could surpass Rem even with years of training. Rem also dies to generic cultists. He can't just train his way out of everything.
Probably because Subaru is actually one of the masterminds behind the plan. His ignorance of it is probably a necessary part of performing his role, as there are beings who can read minds to varying degrees. There's probably another complete gospel out there, from which excerpts were taken to instruct the specific bishops on their roles, which was used to set the stage for Subaru's part.
Of course, that would mean that Subaru was unknowingly responsible for all of the terrible things the Witch Cult has ever done.
I think he means it in the sense that he probably erased his own memories.
I don't buy it though. Since has has his entire backstory in arc 4 about his life on earth, so he clearly lived there.
Adding onto this, I just had a thought about Al. Al was isekai'd 18 years ago, which would be shortly before Subaru was born on Earth. Now, it's already been spread around that "Aldebaran" means "Follower of the Pleiades", and we all know which stars "Subaru" refers to.
Al was probably the test subject for whatever shit Subaru was working on, which he then used on himself after Al successfully went through the process.
So this is a villain raising anime? Subaru's just going to get more and more desperate to act in the name of love, Emilia's going to be used as a catalyst to resurrect Satella (or worse, was Satella all along) and protagonist gets to realize that this whole adventure has just been grooming to make him a mighty servant of a horrible evil.
This shit's fucked up.
>Satella is God
>Subaru is Jesus
>Al is John the Baptist
>Witch Cult are Jews
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i thank you, in advance!
Something like that. The Witch Cult is putting Emilia through trials to either kill her if she fails or help her mature into a suitable vessel for Satella if she succeeds. Subaru seems to be there to make sure she succeeds.
I think you might be a bit off with that and might want to try looking in the opposite direction.
Let's say Satella is the satanic figure of their world, and Emilia is regarded as her future vessel/the daughter of the witch. I'd pin her down as more of an Antichrist figure. Furthermore, we might assume a past incarnation of Subaru created modified versions of the Gospel, a book which instructs on the future, leaving out or subtly altering key details to mislead people onto a path headed for ruin. Wouldn't that make him more of a False Prophet?
Besides, we all know who the real Jesus is.
Well it's all theories based on the info we have currently. There's still plenty of time for the author to add more twists.
Random bits of info
>Subaru is the constellation known as the Pleiades or the Seven Sisters
>Subaru can collect the Authorities of the seven sins
>Al's name is Aldebaran which is the star known as the follower of the Pleiades
>Al was summoned 18 years ago, shortly before Subaru was born on Earth
>Satella and Subaru are in love
>Subaru only vaguely remembers in the time between revivals that his goal is to one day hold her hand again. "Doing something was my job"
Also Satella was fine with disappearing with him into the abyss.
Which makes it all seem like he might be the one behind everything rather than Satella