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We need more blessings.
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Megumi a shit.
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>>144544139
Here you go.
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>>144544256
Eriri a shit.
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>>144544256
Threadly reminder that Eriri cucked Tomoya, so you can stop liking her now
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>>144544256
Not a blessing.
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>>144544256
>Eriri
>a blessing
She's a drama whore.
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>>144544610
>removing the only good things about this shitty series
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Eriri is LITERALLY PERFECTION and her tsuntsun face makes me want to kiss her
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>>144544399
I'd cuck that fag as well if I were her.
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>>144544610
Utaha can stay. If Eriri is gone she can't taint Utaha with her drama.
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>>144544700
Eriri pls go
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>Megumi knows she can kill
>the truth lies beyond the game
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>>144544655
Her tsuntsun face makes me want to punch her.
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>What do you do?
>...I drive.
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>>144544650
>the only good things about this shitty series
Utaha is good, she and Megumi have the best and most memorable scenes in the series. Eriri's purpose on the other hand is to be the source of forced drama that brings an otherwise fun and relaxed series down. Her arcs are the worst, and logically, she's also the least popular heroine.
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>tfw Volume 10 confirmed Mayu's win
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>>144546453
Mayu is a 10/10 qt. Shame Maruto limited her to a non-canon spin-off manga.
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>>144545848
Utaha is only good for her slutty body
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>>144546617
But it'd be so cool if he wrote a Mayu volume where she shows up, BTFO of Eriri and shows her what a real illustrator is.
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>>144546717
She's also good for bullying the fuck out of Eriri.
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>>144546824
>that smug Megumi look

This is why Saekano is best as an anime.
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>>144546937
The whole series is summed up in this screenshot.
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Utaha a best.
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>>144547971
Kiyono > Oonishi > Kayano
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Megumi best.
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Threadly reminder that Megumi has no romantic feelings for Tomoya.
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>>144548889
I really wish Michiru got more love.
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Come to bed, anon
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Blessing.
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>>144549299
>Megumi will never sleep in your bed
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>>144544139
We do.
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>>144549130
Reminder to stop spreading lies.
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Will you, anon?
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>>144549130
>>144549724

Megumi's charm is the fact that her feelings toward Tomoya are ambiguous even for the creators. She is an enigma.
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>>144549730
There isn't any other valid answer.
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I thought Saekano was about a girl who is actually a weapon of mass destruction and slaughters hundreds of people while trying to keep a stable relationship
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>>144549830
Then a lot of her charm is gone now, because Maruto has made it way too obvious she loves him. Though considering how Maruto's writing has gone to crap since Volume 7 ended, it wouldn't surprise me if he's just bullshitting at this point. Personally I think now is a good time for Megumi to be more overt with her feelings but we need more dere Megumi, not mad Megumi.
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>>144549968
He's avoiding dere Megumi because that would make Eriri and Utaha jealous of her, detracting from his plot points in volume 10.
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>>144550425
Utaha was already jealous Megumi was sleeping over at his house.
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>>144549968
>because Maruto has made it way too obvious she loves him.
I'm really not seeing it. For all we know she is only acting like the overbearing 2D heroine Tomoya wanted. She has been aware of Tomoya's feelings since volume 7 (or even before) and her character never stopped being reserved and composed, until Tomoya made it too obvious for her through his Eriri route that he still loves Eriri and she took the opportunity to tease him.
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>>144551085
>that shitty gif
>Eririfags
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Saekano is unique in that every single girl is worst girl and a shit. Even the mc is an unlikeable shit. What's the appeal of this
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>>144549299
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>>144551164
>makes a jealous face as she walks by Tomoya and Eriri
>"Really, just how much do you love her?"
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Waiting for more WA2 shit.
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>>144551668
She has improved a lot.
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Megumi a shit.
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>>144551778
The anime original scenes really helped Megumi. The LNs can't convey her charm at all.
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>>144551054
Huh, it wasn't mentioned in the summary.
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>>144551668
I think she will probably never make a move on Tomoya until he gets over Eriri. She's too aware that the guy refuses to move the fuck on and would be abandoned in a heartbeat for Eriri.
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>>144551415
No I'm not.
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>>144552182
>Aquafag
>not a faggot
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>>144552246
>used a goddess meme
>calls me a faggot
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>>144552140
But she's not even trying to raise flags with Tomoya. She just keeps doing her passive aggressive act. Tomoya has been in love with Eriri since elementary school, Megumi should know if she wants to win, she has to act now.
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Would Megumi have stuck to any guy who had showered her with attention?
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>>144552342
Her cousin seemed like a nice person. Definitely a better person than the sperglord Tomoya is.
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>>144552317
She knows that, but at the same time, I don't think she feels it's particularly worth it. She likes him, but not enough to actually try to move to the next steps. Plus Eriri is in the way, and with what happened in the girls side volume, probably will just keep hanging back.
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>>144552317
Megumi doesn't want to win because she doesn't love Tomoya.
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>>144552342
Probably. She was really lonely.
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>>144551708
best girls
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>>144552342
Yes. Shes has no friends and is basically a loner

Why else would anyone want to hang out with those weirdos?
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Eriri and Tomoya will never be together.
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>>144552405
She likes him enough to cook for him and constantly sleep over. After Volume 8 and GS2 I actually thought she was going to go on the offensive.
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>>144544139
Megumi is my Megami.
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>>144552687
That's not really her style. She pretty much backs away because of Eriri. She hasn't really received any signs that Tomoya likes her in that way either, so there's that. So you got a two step problem for her, the first is Eriri and the second is that Tomoya's own feelings are just unsure. If things go on as they do and Megumi did go after Tomoya, you probably get a WA2 situation, where Tomoya abandons Megumi for Eriri again.
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>>144552687
Maybe she doesn't want to be a drama queen and cockblock the other girls. It's not like they are making significant advances on Tomoya either.
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>>144552787
The only real problem would be the fallout from Eriri, but if they managed to make up after V7, they can make up again. Just because Tomoya doesn't have feelings for her now doesn't mean that can't be changed later.
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>>144552866
Eriri is actually getting a lead. Megumi has stagnated.
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>>144553077
Considering how often Tomoya forgives Eriri and is still so in love with her, Megumi is probably finding it pointless to forge forward. It's discouraging when the guy you like keeps going back to the girl who keeps hurting him.
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>>144553245
She's doing it on purpose. Megumi will be happy for her best friend Eriri to reach a romantic conclusion with the love of her life who also happens to be profoundly in love with her. She's so selfless and kind. A cupid. Her jealous act helps Tomoya to stop being indecisive and choose what his heart truly wants.
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>>144544139
Serious question of vol 10.
Why were Tomoya and Eriri shit on their characters in Eriri's route?
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>>144549885
I like you.
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>>144544846
New circle can't carry the LN.
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>>144554572
It can. Volume 8 is proof. Fans are actually disappointed on how out of place the current focus on Utaha is and the new circle being put on the back burner.
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>>144554697
What's memorable about vol 8?
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>>144554960
Izumi telling Eriri off. Utaha being perverted. Iori shutting Megumi down. Every Tomoya x Megumi moment, the best being the date.
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>>144555215
Izumi is a fucking joke.
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>>144555416
She will remove Eriri.
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>>144555571
The only thing she does is trying to shit on Eriri.
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>>144555416
>Apparently, after hearing that she entered a game circle, her friends (named Mina Nozaki & Manami Furuhashi) were interested to hear more about the circle. Izumi asked Tomoya to explain about the circle to her friends, but Eriri exclaimed that amateurs or people who are not an otaku shouldn’t join. Izumi retorted by laying out the fact that Tomoya was also an amateur who only started a year ago and managed to have his circle’s game released in the Winter Comiket. Eriri wanted to declare that she and Utaha were members of that circle, but lost her strength to do so partway. Both of Izumi’s classmates then revealed that they are actually full-fledged otakus. Completely losing the ‘battle’, Eriri leaved the classroom as Tomoya took off with Izumi’s classmates to explain about the circle.

How bad is it for Eriri to get BTFO by a "joke"?
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>>144555732
She BTFO nobody, her friends couldn't stand the pressure of the circle.
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>>144555877
She got told off for making wild assumptions and trying to have a say in a decision of a circle she abandoned and has nothing to do with anymore.
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>>144555952
And? She was right.
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>>144554572
Japan actually hates V9 and 10, the ones that focus on Eriri and Utaha. They preferred V8 and GS2.
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>>144556033
She didn't know Izumi's friends were otaku. Even if she was right, it's not her decision to make. She already fucked off and left the circle in ruins. She's hardly the one to talk about proper management.
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>>144556129
Gs2 was mostly about Eriri and Megumi.
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>>144544139
>Megumi
>blessing
Pic unrelated.
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>>144556355
I like how Megumi is so bitter about Tomoya loving Eriri.
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>>144556355
>dumb EOP Eririfag doesn't know Megumi literally means blessing
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>>144556355
Best girl since loli.
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>>144556429
See
>>144553554
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>>144556355
She was so cute. What went wrong?
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>>144556458
>takes meaning of a person's name literally
Whst a dumbass.
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>>144556577
More like she was best loli since she was the only one and stopped being best once she grew up because she actually met competition.
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>>144556680
Nothing. Everything went better than expected.
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Is Michiru the only chill girl?
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>>144552342
the perfect waifu.
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Megumi a shit. Worst girl.
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>>144556680
She still cute.
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>>144556722
The meaning is fitting with her effect on the world. I don't know what the purpose of your post was because there is nothing related to blessings about Eriri nor was it witty.
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>>144556748
Eriri has no competition, evident by the fact she was and still is in the lead. Fact.
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>>144556826
Eriri*
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>>144556892
I'm going to cry when she lose.
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>>144556892
She stopped being best girl once the other girls appeared on screen. Fact.
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>>144556866
>blessing
>something that helps you or brings happiness
Megumi isn't related. Simple.
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>>144556763
I think we can all agree that she has the prettiest/cutest face right?
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>>144557001
>Eriri
>helping in anything but bringing in drama, sadness, conflict and destruction
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>>144556892
Rekt'd.

>>144557000
>Cries fact when he can't based it on anything to support it
Kek.
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>>144556945
Why? She brings it upon herself. The universe can bend itself, the stars can align to give her the chance of hooking up with Tomoya and she will find a way to fuck it up.
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>>144553755
They didn't understand each other, or at least Eriri didn't understand Tomoya.
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>>144557147
>>Cries fact
>>he can't based it on anything

What the fuck are you smoking?
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>>144557172
She is best girl and I want her to be happy.
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>>144556257
They fit Eriri in without making it feel unnatural. Also, there were good parts with Izumi and Michiru.
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>>144557035
No.
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>>144557087
You forgot joy, sweetness, friendship, resolution, and love too. All of that makes her truly interesting and promotes development and builds character.
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>>144557337
Stop posting, Tomoya.
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>>144557277
So you only care about her for shipping purposes.
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>>144557087
>>144557337
This is why I love Eriri most.
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Eriri is shit for cucking Tomoya
But i want her to win because Megumi end is too obvious
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>>144557485
Exquisite taste.
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>>144557456
No. I really think she is the best and most developed character.
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>>144557498
Since when? Eriri doesn't love anyone else but Tomoya.
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>>144557498
It's cute you still try to force that meme.
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>>144557498
>Megumi end is too obvious
So? It isn't a real competition and you guys know it.
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>>144557542
Since she left him to join up with his rival
Leaving him all alone like the cuck he is.
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>>144557519
Now you're contradicting yourself. Most of her development comes from the fact she will prioritize her career over Tomoya because she finds the most happiness when drawing. As long as she is an artist she is happy.
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>>144557681
I figured you were trolling and I guess you just confirmed it. Carry on.
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>>144557337
If by that you mean betrayal and heartbreak, sure.
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>>144557734
>i will just pretend it never happened
Weakling
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>>144557519
Because Maruto is a dick and refuses to give volumes dedicated to Megumi, Izumi, or Michiru and keeps letting Eriri and Utaha hog the screentime.
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Why can't Eriri have both? Is Tomoya a liability?
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>>144557809
>Ignoring plot and character development that made everything better
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>>144557942
>made everything better

Tomoya still resents Eriri.
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>>144557682
She wants both a career and Tomoya.
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>>144557485
The scene I look forward to most for S2. Damn YP for licensing the LNs before fan translation finished vol.6.
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Megumi > Utaha > Eriri > Michiru > Izumi

Long hair = Short hair > Long ponytail > short ponytail

Koisuru Metronome > Egoistic Lily
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>>144558077
What if they go full anime original for more Megumi pandering?
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>>144558042
She could easily have both if only she wasn't a fucking retard.
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>>144558025
He only has a little grudge that will be resolved in due time. The grudge itself little to do with gained benefits that came out of the drama and resolution. You really should pay more attention to the story and its character instead of caring only about shipping, you know.
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>>144557912
Yes. Tomoya would never let her work herself so hard after V6.
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>>144558186
>little grudge
>“No one would sympathize with such a two-faced protagonist!”
>“And no one would fall for such a liar of a heroine!”
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>>144558255
What the hell are you talking about now?
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>>144557863
Megumi will have the most development out of all the girls in the end.

It is normal for secondary heroines to have faster development than the main girl to conclude their character arcs before the endgame, which is of course reseved for the main heroine. Best for last as they say.
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>>144557912
Eriri and Tomoya being around each other made the two of them stagnate because they were respectively too comfy/protective and stuck in a rut. It's like mixing business and pleasure whe they were around each other. That's the main issue the author gave.
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>>144558322
The spat they had in V10 shows that it's not just a little grudge.
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>>144558154
Blame Maruto.
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>>144556355
She has nice thighs.
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>>144558372
That just makes the main heroine's development rushed. Assuming he ends it at V14 and we get a volume each for Michiru and Izumi, that's only two volumes to develop Megumi.
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>>144558389
>spat
It is little. The whole lover spat exchange was both antics and Tomoya and Eriri blowing off steam. And still they get along. Doesn't change the fact the whole ordeal was beneficial to everyone, you know.
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>>144558389
>>144558617
Japanese culture is big on the whole people fight and quarrel because they care and are close to each other. What Tomoya and Eriri did was exactly that. Megumi was even used to hammer down the notion of love on Tomoya's side since Tomoya was so insistent because he loves Eriri. No doubt Eriri is the same.
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>>144558834
They are like a married couple then
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>>144559007
Tomoya and Megumi have better fights.
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>>144558507
It's the opposite. The development of a main girl is steady, scattered throughout the story. Megumi is always developing - even in arcs where she isn't the main focus, privilege most secondary girls don't have - be it showing previously unknown sides to her character, widening her emotion range or giving subtle details for a stronger characterization.

It is a slow yet solid process of build up. Her development and her role as the main focus of the story will just come full circle in the endgame.
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>>144559178
>The development of a main girl is steady, scattered throughout the story.

That'd be nice if it actually happened. Ever since V8 she's had barely anything. Of all the girls in V10, Megumi actually had the least screentime.
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>>144558834
It'd be called lover's spat in the West, although it's nowhere as moe and prevalent as Japan's version of it.

>>144559160
Tomoya and Megumi don't have lover's spat-like fights though.
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>>144559479
I would say the big turning point will be when he has to choose between Megumi and Eriri. This will probably be once Megumi finally gives up on him and utterly rejects him. Actually, that's just fantasy, but I really want her to just reject him.
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>>144558153
P-Please no.
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>>144559425
She had the best scene in volume 9 though. GS2 was probably the novel where she got the most development. But yeah, volume 10 was odd in that she didn't even have her typical special scene at the end.
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>>144559479
Tomoya acting like a henpecked husband to Megumi is more amusing though, since she actually understands him and knows how to push the correct buttons to trigger him, and the power of gap moe has a great effect on Megumi acting like that.
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>>144558106
Agreed on everything except

>Short hair > Long hair = Long ponytail > short ponytail
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>>144559722
>You're entitled to your opinion, but saying Megumi is the only one that understands him is just wrong.
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>>144558106
Short hair = short ponytail > long ponytail > long hair desu senpai.

That said, Megumi is lovely either way.
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>>144559969
Er, didn't meant to greentext here.
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>>144559969
She actually understands him != only she understands him

Though no other girl has Megumi's level of grasp of Tomoya's character. Utaha admitted she understood him the most in GS1.
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>>144559588
>Maruto said there will be an anime original beach episode
>A1 is known for messing with source material like with Boku Dake's ending
>Volumes 5 and 6 don't have enough Megumi pandering even though S2 is called Flat
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>>144560396
Megumi understands Tomoya to a certain degree, but it's pretty ludicrous to say she understands him the most. Eriri is very intimate with Tomoya, but even she doesn't understand Tomoya as much as she thinks. Utaha is the perceptive one, but she too can't say for certain that she understands Tomoya the most—character ignorance overturned it.
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>>144560662
>Utaha is the perceptive one
And she literally said Megumi understands Tomoya the most.
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>>144560742
When was that? I don't remember such exact words. In any case, Utaha has been wrong before. Character ignorance is natural part of the writing process when dealing with character perception. From our meta side, it's hard to imagine Megumi understands him the most, especially when she couldn't understand her best friend who's also a Creator and consumer otaku.
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>>144560515
It would be dumb to fit in anime original content for Megumi for 6 when it's in her best interest to have little scenes until her scene near the end of volume 7. The impact wouldn't be strong and meaningful if she wasn't put in the back seat until then.
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>>144560996
Dude, I said it in my previous post. GS1.

If you haven't realized it, most of Megumi's actions are determined by her understanding of Tomoya. Like in volume 7, she knew Tomoya was depressed and she knew she was the key to end his suffering, and she knew the absolute best way to accomplish that. It's why she was so confident in dressing up and playing the heroine act in the same hill from volume 1 to cheer him up. She knew Tomoya would be happy to see his beloved heroine again and would be motivated to start a new circle. Tomoya also tells Megumi things he would never say to Utaha and Eriri, furthering her knowledge of him. It's why they have such a close and positive relationship. Compare that to Utaha and Eriri, who were suprised to see Tomoya chasing after them again and forgiving them and wishing them luck with Akane. They didn't expect all that.

Eriri is another matter altogether. Megumi thought she understood her when in reality she didn't.
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>>144561098
Megumi needs lots of scenes so that when Tomoya doesn't see her for two months, we feel the impact too. More scenes would also help make it more believable she fell for Tomoya. And then there's how she needs scenes to build up her friendship with Eriri.
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>>144548889
>Rorioppai
Yes.
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>>144561690
>she fell for Tomoya
>implying
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>>144561570
>Utaha admitted she understood him the most in GS1.
I thought you were talking about Utaha herself here. But yes, the epilogue in GS has such a quote. But again, character ignorance can be wrong, especially from a meta point of view.

Most of the example you give is common sense and understanding of Tomoya on a basic level though. Tomoya's love for the game and the fact Megumi is the inspired heroine he idealized in the game? That's isn't a secret. Cheering up a friend when he's down is simple. Tomoya also say things to Eriri and Utaha that he doesn't say to Megumi. Nobody full understands Tomoya, so acting in a way that isn't expected is only natural.

The drama with Eriri shows Megumi is fallible.
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>>144562009
>Cheering up a friend when he's down is simple
The action itself is simple, but knowing the exact moment, the exact place, the exact words, even choosing the exact appearance and getting the expected results is something only someone who understands the other person beyond a basic level can accomplish. It's clear Megumi didn't just want to cheer him up, she wanted to be his heroine again. Healing scenes like this always represent a special understanding bond between the MC and the heroine.

I never said Megumi fully understands Tomoya nor that she is infallible, she just has the best grasp of Tomoya's character. Just like Utaha has the best grasp of Eriri's character.
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>>144562610
Nah, Akane understands Eriri best.
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>>144562610
That's all pretty basic though. What better way to cheer Tomoya up than to re-act the hill scene that started it all? That kind of thinking.

Either way, each girl have different strengths at understanding Tomoya. Let's say Megumi has a wider grasp, Eriri is more intimate, and Utaha is most perceptive.

>I never said Megumi fully understands Tomoya nor that she is infallible
I know. I was just saying.
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>>144562751
As an artist. Utaha knows Eriri's self-destructive side.
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>>144561892
It's super obvious. There's also how Megumi said that she fell for him suddenly, and none of the scenes so far seem to show when she fell for him.
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>>144558077
Still waiting for Vol. 1 release
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>>144563487
She was talking about her cousin there
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>>144563031
Dammit.
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>>144564050
Megumi isn't a cousinfucker.
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>>144565126
This scene implies she used to have a crush on him.
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>>144546824
>>144546937
>>144547152
This smug face is probably the best thing the anime industry ever produced.
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>>144565643
Not even Shinoa tier.
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>>144565560
That was clearly a joke.
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>>144566114
So why did she make this face after Tomoya called her a liar?
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>>144566665
Tomoya is stupid. He's watched hundreds of anime yet can't tell that the generic tsundere is in love with him.
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>>144551708
Season 2 will up the visual and story references. Can't wait.
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>>144566665
Because Tomoya freaked out and accused her of all that stuff, when he himself is guilty of all of it with Michiru.
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>>144567156
Will it beat Yahari?
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>>144544139
Megumi was adorable during that whole date.
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>>144567533
I really didn't expect that from Yahari of all series. Season 2 was still bad though.
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>>144567715
We need a version of the very top pic with Megumi, Eriri, and Tomoya.
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>>144567533
Bottom left is pushing it. Thank god we have something actually comparable to that scene.
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>>144566895
Tomoya knows Eriri is a tsundere though.
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>>144566895
>generic harem MC
>knowing someone is in love with him
He is cursed.
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>>144567600
Her mad face is the most adorable.
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>>144568057
He's watched so many harems, shouldn't he know acting like a generic harem MC is a bad idea?
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>>144557001
>Megumi
>not the most helpful girl in the cast
>not the one who brings Tomoya the most happiness

She's literally a blessing anon.
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>>144568227
Why? Acting like a generic harem MC is what attracts fresh pussy in the first place.
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>>144567910
But not tsundere for him.
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>>144568402
It causes unnecessary drama. If he was really an anime expert, he'd immediately know Eriri was in love with him and bang her.
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Do we have LN translations for 5-10 at all? I've found some summaries for them but not any actual TLs
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>>144568318
She exist for Tomoya.
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>>144568692
They got DMCA'd.
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>>144568692
Nanodesu translated volume 5 but they cancelled the translation project and took the translations down. You can find the pdf with a quick google search though.
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>>144568227
> shouldn't he know acting like a generic harem MC is a bad idea
It's ironic because of that.
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>>144568750
She exists for the circle. Tomoya is just a good friend.
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>>144568780
>>144568792
Fuck YP man, ruining my life agian
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>>144569051
Not that big of a loss. The Saekano LNs are awful and painful to read. The anime is the only good thing that's come out of this franchise.
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>>144568927
She doesn't care much for Michiru and Izumi. As far as she is concerned Tomoya is the circle.
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best end
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>“Really, just how much do you love her?”

What does that mean?
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>>144571042
See
>>144553554
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>>144571078
So is she jealous?
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>>144571264
Are you dense?
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>>144571264
She's pretending. She knows they love each other and just need a little push to get together. She isn't a bad person so instead of ruining their beautiful love story, she is playing wingman in a subtle and misleading way.
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>>144571357
I'm the MC of my life.

>>144571366
Sounds complicated, more after the last part of GS2.
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so should i just read the summaries or learn japanese to catch up?
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>>144571820
It'd take you at least a year to learn enough to read at a decent pace. And by that I mean using a dictionary every other sentence.
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If Eriri and Utaha weren't in love with captain autist would they have left the circle in a nicer manner? Would they even join it in the first place?
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>>144544919
Megumi was just pretending. She is doing it to fit Tomoya's heroine mold.
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>>144572352
>Would they even join it in the first place?
No. As much as Megumi convinced them to join the circle, it was ultimately their feelings for Tomoya the reason they joined.
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>>144572352
They wouldn't be as good as they are now if it wasn't for Tomoya.
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>>144572352
>If Eriri and Utaha weren't in love with captain autist would they have left the circle in a nicer manner?
No. Utaha did it that way because he didn't give her the D. Eriri is a coward so she might have done something awful.
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>>144572638
Yeah but that is independent of their romantic feelings for him.

>>144572414
I figured as much but they care about hi outside of their own selfish desires right?
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>>144544139
>this girl grew her hair for mc

I've never witnessed such a remarkable feat that determines a best girl in a show.
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>>144571411
Megumi just proceeded to warn and give Eriri guidance to follow her love after they made up in GS2. She even deliberately said she will always be with Tomoya, of course only so Eriri can improve her game and take her place as Tomoya's lover.
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>>144572741
>Yeah but that is independent of their romantic feelings for him.

Akane would have never scouted them so they would never have to leave. But anyway, they wouldn't have cared about him at all if they had no feelings for him, so they'll just tell him they're leaving and fuck off.
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Why do people think Megumi likes Tomoya? Has this series just flown over their head? Eriri is shit though, Utaha is probably the best for him.
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>>144572838
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>>144572838
She likes him but there's nothing romantic about it.
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>>144572830
You can still care about people you don't like romantically. They screwed him hard and I wonder if there was any spite.
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>>144572923
I can't follow this conversation at all. It really doesn't make sense.

>>144572971
I meant romance. Megumi doesn't have romantic feelings for Tomoya.
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>>144572992
Utaha only screwed him so hard because she was frustrated he wouldn't fuck her. So yeah, it was purely because of romantic feelings. For Eriri it's more questionable. She couldn't personally tell Megumi she was leaving so maybe she would chicken out.
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>>144573021
What about the conversation doesn't make sense? She's saying she fell in love with him.
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>>144573196
Do I read it as row to row or column to column? Left to right or right to left? Al;so feelings can be feelings of friendship and fondness.
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>>144573243
Right to left, read the column on the right and then the column on the left. Are you new to this?
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>>144573301
No, just confused is all. I read it that way and it seems to me that Eriri's feelings really stand out.
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>>144573334
Both of them actually.

Not that anon, but it's up to interpretation that while Eriri's love is bigger now, Megumi's feelings changed from nothing to something. How much about this means love is not clear.
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>>144544139
I do remember how I watched this expecting love Utaha's character from all the posts, but ended liking Megumi the most.

She has some interesting development, and her interactions are fun, while Eriri gets on my nerves and Utaha is a nice girl who can accomplish nothing.
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>>144573579
>>144573334
They were talking about their breasts at last.
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>>144573637
Utaha just strikes me as thirsty. She is kind of pathetic in a way.
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>>144573714
It's sad what they did to her. Instead if just rejecting her in V7 and letting her feelings die out, they've just made them bigger and left her eternally cockblocked.
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>>144573745
Maruto can still give her a decent closure if the point made in volume 10 follows through and they part ways definitely.
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>>144573745
I think Utaha really needs to move on from him. She hasn't and is doomed to never even being considered by him.

>>144573843
Utaha still loves his game all things considered. I am not sure Maruto will sweep her away until the very end.

Do Utahafags even bring in shekels?
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>>144573843
Maybe, but who knows what Volume 10 spelled for Koisuru Metronome. If that Utaha is the same as this Utaha then there is absolutely no way she will win the Tomoyabowl.
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>>144573889
Utaha is the second most popular girl. Besides Megumifags, Utahafags are the only other important faction in the fanbase.

They are making a life size statue for Utaha too.
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>>144573637
I certainly didn't expect Megumi to end up being my favorite with Utaha and Michiru around. Eriri was just a vocal cunt as expected though.
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>>144572765
And she shows it to him for the first time in a glorious scene.
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>>144574014
I haven't read Koisuru Metronome so I can't say but she has no shot of winning him in the main series. Her only ray of hope is if Megumi turns into something wicked and Eriri goes full crazy. Oh, and for Tomoya to stop worshiping her.
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So why are Eriri and Utaha so hostile to eachother? I know they make for a good pair and care about eachother professionally but there is no real reason for them to bicker like two children over a toy.
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>>144574232
We already knew she had no way to win in Volume 7, but it didn't say anything about KM. Now we have Volume 10 where the Utaha route is essentially KM, but Tomoya says that the girl in that route isn't the real Utaha.
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>>144574305
Literally just because of Tomoya. They actually love each other a lot but because they're fighting for the same man they keep on arguing.
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>>144574305
They're tsundere for each other. That's what makes them great and hot as a pairing.
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>>144574434
Well it isn't much of a problem at all anymore. Eriri has fallen out of love with him and Utaha stopped pinning for him.
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>>144574625
>Eriri has fallen out of love with him

This never happened. And Utaha might know she doesn't have a chance with Tomoya, but that won't stop her constant sexual harassment towards him.
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>>144574326
Ah, I get it. So any route where Utaha is herself she will never, ever get the Rinri-kun?
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>>144574625
Yep. No problem. Everyone should realize that Tomoya is never going to change his heart and that it's pointless to fight over him. They all should support Eriri x Tomoya and wish them a happy life together like Megumi is doing.
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>>144574694
Yeah. Now the main question is whether the ending will just be a farewell scene between Tomoya and Utaha or if Maruto will add salt to the wound and make it a Mayu end.
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>>144574685
>her constant sexual harassment towards him.
She is just teasing him. There is no love behind it. If he actually responded to it and tried something she would stop him.

>This never happened.
Someone told me on 4chan that Eriri stopped liking him that way and their chances were over. Funposting?

>>144574697
That would be reassuring. Too much of the drama in this series revolves around Tomoya's dck.
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>>144574862
>Someone told me on 4chan that Eriri stopped liking him that way and their chances were over. Funposting?

That's utter bullshit. And Utaha's sexual harassment is borderline rape, the only reason actual rape hasn't happened is because someone keeps showing up to cockblock them.
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>>144574862
It indeed is reassuring. Megumi's methods may cause a bit of pain on Tomoya, but they are also part of her heroine training and contribute to the development of the game.
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>>144574924
I thought Utaha was over him. People don't try to come onto their former crush for giggles. Is she trying to force it?
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>>144575215
>Is she trying to force it?

Yes. She tried to do it in V10.
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>>144575433
I meant force a possibility of a win, not her body.
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>>144576682
While she is frustrated Tomoya won't love her, she's more frustrated at her lack of sex.
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>>144576743
Tomoya is an asexual muppet, there are tons of better guys. She is hot enough to get any fucking guy she wants.
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>>144576857
>to get any fucking guy she wants.
Except the only one she truly wants.
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I just finished this episode. Why was Utaha so bothered by this? Did she realize that what she was doing was wrong as a creator? If so there is no reason to be mad at him for 6 months, it isn't as if he did anything wrong. It seems like she is over it though.
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So when did Eririfags become cancer? Where they born that way?
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Megumifags are the worst.
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>>144576914
Tomoya is a good kid. He didnt ask for a harem, he just wants to make games
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>>144577427
Because he wouldn't break his code for her. He appreciated her more as a creator than as a person. That's essentially what it boiled down to.
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>>144581175
He met her as a creator and they connected through her creation. If she wanted him to care about her as a person she should have tried to appeal to him that way rather than act like a spurned lover.
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Does Michiru like Tomoya?
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>>144582426
No.
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>>144583230
Then why is she so suggestive to him and grinds him?
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Is Eriri still in love with Tomoya even in vol 9.

Why doesn't Megumi trigger Utaha and Eriri's jelly sensors?
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>>144578732
Tsunderefags are cancer by default. This time they're worse than usual though because their tsunshit isn't going to win.
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>>144584437
She's a cockthirsty slut.
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>>144586612
Yes.

She does.
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>>144586612
They're not around enough to be triggered. I'd imagine both would be ballistic if they knew how casually Megumi eats, sleeps, and bathes over at Tomoya's house.
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>>144587900
Even in vol 10? What about Utaha?
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tl note: megumi means female goddess
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>>144588419
Yes Eriri still loves Tomoya in Volume 10. And in that volume when Utaha found out Megumi was sleeping over at Tomoya's house, she was pretty mad.
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>>144589137
So they both still love him even after the bull shit they put him through? Utaha and Eriri should move on.
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>>144567533
Yahari is better than this show, but it kinda got uninterested.
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>>144589367
No, it's more surprising Tomoya is still in love with Eriri after everything she did.
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Daily reminder Megumi doesn't love Tomoya.
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>>144590129
No way, Saekano is miles above Yahari. It's way funnier and has better written characters and conflict.
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>>144590207
I don't know, Eriri is bonkers for him so it wouldn't be much for them to become an item.
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>>144544610
> Utaha with a ponytail

My dick didn't know it needed this until now.
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>>144590129
I agree but that is because 8man himself is actually enjoyable as main character. He is not perfect and has made lots of mistakes, but compared with Tomoya, he is miles better.

The girls are not really that good tho. In that aspect, Saekano is far better.

Yahari dragged Yukino's issue too much, to the point it got uninteresting. Still better writing and prose than Saekano tho.
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>>144590809
All Eriri needed to do to win was fuck him in Volume 6 and then politely tell him she was leaving the next volume.
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>>144544846
Megumi's megumis should be smaller.
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>>144590207
I don't even know anymore. It's like he was castrated by her actions in their childhood, so now he is incapable of telling who loves him for real.

>>144591217
This is what actually pissed me off the most. I understand her position as a creator. Tomoya wouldn't even reject that if there were plenty of reasons, as he shows himself in the station. But what is the fucking necessity to make her and Utaha look so bad with the betrayal, is beyond me. Unless it was formulated that way to make then out of question as romantic partners later,.

Of course Utaha, who won get the D is the one who has to tell him the true first.
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tomoya love utaha 99% Megumi1% eriri 0% but eriri win friendsphip Utaha 1% Megumi 35% Eriir 64%
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>>144591488
You have it backwards
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>>144591413
Blame Eriri for not telling Tomoya beforehand and leaving the responsibility to Utaha of revealing the truth. That's also one of the reasons Megumi goes to confront Eriri and calls her out on her shit.
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>>144591413
Utaha's motives were far worse. It only killed her.
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>>144591377
Maybe they grew.
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Good to see the thread full of discussion and minimal shitposting. Maybe there's still hope for this fanbase.
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>>144591933
Are you trying to bait the shitposters anon.
DELETE THIS.
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I'm seriously wondering how Tomoya is supposed to get over his Eriri love. How is Maruto going to break the bond after all she's done? I can't see a satisfactory Megumi end if he still doesn't deal with that first.
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>>144592105
Which is why it's going to be a cop out open end.
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>>144591860
They don't look that big there >>144544919
I know, clothes, etc, but it seems like they only get big for fanservice scenes.
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>>144591488
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>>144592281
I think that too. Why else would the author keep Utaha in the game?
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>>144591413
>But what is the fucking necessity to make her and Utaha look so bad with the betrayal,
Eriri is coward.
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>>144592105
What if it's something like

>LN - Eriri end
>Anime - Megumi end
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>>144574151
>dat game mc kanji reading
Heh. Maruto makes it hard not to be a Megumifag.
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>>144593116
>>LN - Eriri end
Please no. I don't want this to be another WA2.
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>>144593245
Ikr, how the fuck I'm supposed to interpret that anyway. Can only imagine her speaking with dual voice, like a monster would do.
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>>144593376
She's saying Tomoya-oniisama but means Tomoya-kun.
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>>144593333
Why not?
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>>144593681
Once is enough.
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>>144593664
The kanji reads the name(Fuma?) of the brother MC from their game whose incestuous sister is based on Megumi. Tomoya's kanji is 倫也.
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>>144593793
We will get one with Oregairu already.
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>>144593333
Let's be honest, barely anyone reads the LN. Even in Japan the majority of the fanbase is from the anime.
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>>144593793
The problem with Setsuna is that she knows that Haruki loves Touma.
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>>144592617
Would love and appreciate a translation of this.
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>>144594218
And Haruki may be a faggot but at least he banged Kazusa.
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>>144594218
Megumi knows Eriri and Utaha are deeply in love him. Eriri and Utaha are aware of Megymi.
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> he has feelings for Utaha
not only of amiration and love(feeling ambiguous)
Vol 10
After talking with Eriri a bit and finally leaving the place, Utaha began to cry desperately, Eriri was obviously supporting her even when she still holds some mixed feelings (Why she jelly????? )after noticing how close Utaha and Tomoya are(???love 100%)
Tomoya kept thinking about Utaha even throughout the camp, and finally decided later on: he will write a scenario with Utaha
The circle has returned from their training camp. Tomoya is working on his game. Megumi shows up to meet him but he’s too busy thinking about Utaha to notice her!!!! in the room, so she picks off some of the sunburnt skin on his neck. Tomoya screams in pain and finally notices her. Megumi tells him she’s noticed how depressed he is about Utaha and that he needs to cheer her up. Tomoya asks if it’s okay for him to focus on the ex-circle members instead of the current circle members. Megumi says yes, mentioning how she’s used to him betrayed her ever since he wrote the Eriri route. Tomoya realizes that he has to write an Utaha route
As always Tomoya acted like a huge idiot, this happened mainly because when he heard Utaha rejecting his heroine (which means rejecting the way he feels about Utaha!!) his feelings were affected too Why??? love 100%)and now Tomoya and Utaha who used to be together now started to move away, on different paths.
Eriri is very special for Tomoya, but I haven't really seen anything that necessarily indicates Tomoya is still in love with herand Megumi friendship(can be love or not)
Vol7
Tomoya hesitated to answer of question about feeling for utaha when megumi asked him about his feeling about her (Utaha) directly and didn't was a clearly answer. And the other hand, he said Eriri was his first love(was).
Hopefully, Tomoya will realize his own feelings for her vol 11
I suppose the odds of tomoya ending up with utaha? ?Not impossible unless Megumi win because as heroine
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>>144594387
There has been so much implied sex in the LN I wouldn't be surprised if he put in one in the real world.
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>>144594450
Megumi knows/thinks that Tomoya loves Eriri.
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>>144594631
It will be Iori x Michiru.
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>>144594817
If only she was more like Setsuna and more aggressive.
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>>144594492
So Utaha no longer loves him and is moving on.
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>>144595255
That's not what the epilogue says.
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>>144595130
She has done enough already rescuing him and staying close by his side. She just can't suddenly override Tomoya's feelings, which too bad for her haven't changed a bit even after all the shit Eriri has pulled on him.
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>>144595626
She should try kissing him like Setsuna did.
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>>144595346
What does it say or imply?
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>>144595856
She loves the game and keeps playing it over and over.
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>>144596052
She should tell him that then. It would make him happy. Does the fact that it has his feelings in it impact her.
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>>144595827
And then get stabbed in the heart when Tomoya runs off to Eriri as he never stopped loving her.
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>>144596278
That would happen anyway if she did nothing. Now she actually has a chance to appeal to him since Eriri is away most of the time. She needs to take the chance before she comes back.
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>>144596456
But does Megumi even want that? For Tomoya to be hers? He has all sorts of girls all over him even if he did ditch Eriri.
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>>144596981
Of course she wants that. Look at how jealous she is.
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>>144596456
But Tomoya dotes on her a lot. He always has. It'd be hard to draw a line between that and actual romantic appeal.
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>>144597588
That's why she has to be more aggressive and kiss him.
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>>144593333
Well I don't want another shitty Toradora.
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>>144598065
Amifag detected.
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>>144597974
>tfw the anime cut out their nearly kiss in volume 1

Granted, the way they arranged the whole scene would have made it impossible to fit.
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>>144598191
Minori, but still the end was shit.
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>>144598300
Let's be honest, the anime version was better. Having Eriri crash into Tomoya was a terrible idea.
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>>144577427
Because he's an idiot.
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>>144597974
To be honest, and given the precedent in WA2, I'm expecting her to get aggressive if she is actually jealous and not acting. Maybe at first under the excuse of acting like the assertive type of heroine for the game.
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>>144598975
Tomoya wants the heroine of his game to be based on the real Megumi, but the truth is that he has no idea what person Megumi really is.
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Volumes 1-7

>Eriri - tsundere
>Utaha - kuudere
>Megumi - unknown

Volumes 8+

>Eriri - tsundere
>Utaha - yandere
>Megumi - kuudere
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>>144599339
Does he even know her parents? I know Megumi meets his at some point.
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>>144599514
He met her parents in V8, and in V10 he begged Megumi's older brother for deals on the tickets for the training camp.
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>>144599588
Megumi has siblings?
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>>144599834
Yes. She also has an older sister.
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>>144599956
>Kato onee-san

My dick demands more of her. Maybe if Maruto writes one Megumi side story.
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>>144599588

Is Megumi really have older brother? Because if it's true then there are some inconsistencies, because she says at manga ch 10 that she only have older sister
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>>144599453
Volumes 1-7
>Izumi - genki

Volumes 8+
>Izumi - yandere

Volumes 1+
>Michiru - slut
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>>144600325
It was her brother-in-law.
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>>144600487
I'm smelling family drama already.
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>>144600253
If Maruto really just wanted to drag out the story to end at the same time as the anime does he should have just done a Megumi onee-san volume.
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>>144600538
Megumi's family already thinks of Tomoya as Megumi's boyfriend.
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>>144600785
>everyone around Tomoya and Megumi except Eriri and Utaha considers them a couple

What is Maruto trying to do here?
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>>144601000
Maybe at some point they come to the realization that they're already a couple without really realizing it. That would be a pretty refreshing and realistic romantic development for anime standards.
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>>144601000
To make the Eriri ending more sweet. Notice how the volume covers are going in reverse order. It starts with Megumi and ends with Eriri.
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>>144601213
>sweet
Don't you mean cruel?
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>>144601768
Considering how it seems like Maruto is doing everything he can to sink his LNs, I wouldn't be surprised if he really is trying to piss off his fandom.
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>>144601904
Fans who are familiar with his other series should expect something like this though.
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>>144601097
More like boring.
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>>144602203
Still, it'd result in a deluge of one star reviews. Think of something like Shomin Sample's ending.
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>>144602304
The journey and not the destination, etc.
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>>144602398
You need balls of steel letting the the less liked character win
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>>144602852
I think he might actually hate writing LNs. Everyone calls the prose shit and the only reason it's still going is because of the anime.

>most anime exist to promote the LNs
>this LN exists to promote the anime
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>>144603423
I doubt S2 is going to sell even half of what S1 did though.
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this shit is almost as dumb as nisekoi so blonde is going to win, but the cousin is the best girl like tsugumi was
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>>144603503
Yahari maintained 10K+ sales even after two years. I think Saekano can manage it, especially if they up the Megumi pandering.
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>>144602398
>Shomin Sample

Most rage-worthy harem ending since Ichigo 100%.
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I know the WA2 comparisons can generate suspicions, but Maruto already said he is going to avoid with Megumi what happened to Setsuna.
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>>144603557
Iroha was pretty much the reason Yahari S2 still did well.
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>>144603538
Eriri is the Onodera of this series. MC will move from her to another.
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>>144594817
why megumi asked him about his feeling about Utaha and she told him to confess and Megumi knows/thinks that Tomoya loves Utaha too.???
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>>144604616
Megumi likes to tease Tomoya. She knows he author-zoned her.
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>>144595827
Aggressive-at-love heroines tend to lose. Nips seem to hate it when a girl takes the initiative, so nothing happens until the MC does.
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>>144604193
I hope that's mean that she won't fall in love at all.
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>>144604304
Tomoya's love for Eriri is more genuine than Raku's love for Onodera.
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>>144605063
>Nips seem to hate it when a girl takes the initiative
There are some cases where that doesn't happen.
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>>144605349
I think Tomoya is just mentally ill.
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>>144605117
I'm hoping she utterly rejects him, and he gets with Eriri. And then Eriri fucks things up again and causes a true split.
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Which is her best hat?
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>>144608296
THE hat, of course.
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>>144608296
I liked that outfit.
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>>144606798
Loving any other girl at this point would make him mentally ill. Eriri is really the most logical choice at the moment given their history and build up of tension Tomoya has with Eriri for years.
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>>144609205
You would need to be mentally ill to be fixated on some generic tsundere for so long.
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Izumi is the mentally ill one. Didn't you guys read the full summary of vol.10? She's yandere crazy. Looks like she attacked even Megumi for inviting Eriri over.
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>>144608296
>>144609007
Megumi in sundress when?
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>>144609799
Because?
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>>144605448
Slut.
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>>144610129
Don't you have a thread to spam in Lishafag?
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>>144609922
It can't be helped. Eriri drove her insane since the start.
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Despite all the fanservice in this series, I find strange that the MC is barely involved in perverted antics like seeing the girls naked or falling on their tits.
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>>144610221
>obvious tongue-in-cheek use of slut meme that most fans use, especially Lishafags on their own girl as a joke
Why are you so so touchy and starting fights for no good reason?
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>>144609205
Tomoya has a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome. Yes, they could easily get together and despite how much Eriri hurts him he'll keep loving her. I think he loves her more the more she hurts him.
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>>144610691
She raised him up good as a masochist bitchboy
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>>144609991
Why would you pick a generic tsundere when there are hundreds of them to choose from?
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>>144611408
Name 5 that are just like Eriri in looks and dual personality.
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>>144604193
Setsuna lost so hard it hurts. He will avoid that?

>>144607146
Best outcome from all the bullshit. Somehow I can see how an ending without any romantic relationship would be played by Maruto. I mean, it was about their circle and their game, but not about romance itself.

Actually I'm fine with any ending but Eriri's. She deserves to lose.
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>>144609922
>Izumi is the mentally ill one
Everyone is.
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>>144610691
How does Stockholm Syndrome apply? Do you even know what that mean?

To simplify it, Eriri is the first girl Tomoya loved that got away, the girl he shared childhood memories with that has a special place in his heart. They say absence makes the heart grow fonder, and then when you add all the squabble that contributes to potential sexually tension/frustration, the attraction grows and keeps growing.
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>>144611527
>Setsuna lost so hard it hurts. He will avoid that?
Probably. He says that unlike a VN, a LN only can have one ending, and he can't mess around.
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>>144611640
Some anons told Setsuna route ends with her winning the MC's bowl after some trio and I believe them.

>Not a trio
>A 5-some with Izumi too
I'm diamonds.
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>>144611489
Can't actually think of 5, not because the traits but because none of them actually betrayed the MCs in other series.

I still like Eririr's thighs tho.
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>>144611489
Adding looks is cheating.

>Chitoge
>Naru
>Kyou
>Chidori
>Tomoyo
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>>144611621
He has girls literally throwing themselves at him and he still favors the tsundere? He has to be mentally ill.
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>>144611994
Guys like girls who are hard to get.
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>>144611621
Other than Eriri not being bad at the start, it pretty much definies their relationship. She's self-absorbed and acts abruptly, hurting him more than once and he still forgives her and loves her.
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>>144611883
Handicap then. Betray doesn't need to be a perquisite.

>>144611933
>Chitoge
Nothing alike except for having blonde hair.
>Naru
>Kyou
>Chidori
How are any of them similar to Eriri at all?
>Tomoyo
Only juxtaposition similarity of closet otaku and closet chuuni. And small chests.
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>>144612177
Usually because that girl has something positive to merit it. Eriri has none of that, she's not as nice as Megumi or even Utaha.
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>>144612319
>none
You're a hater.
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>>144611489
Nagi
Mikoto
Chitoge
Kirino
Lilicia
Mio
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>>144611527
I'm hoping for an Eriri bad end. Tomoya gets together with Eriri, she does something again to push him away and break his heart, they split up and because he's a fucking idiot, tries to get back together with Eriri. Repeat cycle.
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>>144612316
Honestly, I just typed in whatever tsundere's name came to mind. They still seem pretty similar. Especially Tomoyo.
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>>144611408
Every time I see someone complain about an archetype for being generic, I have to wonder if that person is still too new to anime and have yet to be desensitized to the truth. The truth being the realization all longtime and high powerlevel fans eventually will reach--that is consuming things you like and seeking it out to appease one's fetishes on a daily basis is endgame.
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>>144612319
Opinion. I guess I can easily say Megumi and Utaha aren't as interesting and cute then, so that there must be no positive merit in chasing after those two.
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>>144612423
What good traits does Eriri have that put her above Megumi and Utaha?
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>>144612541
I'm all hears if you can explain how that's the case then. Tomoyo is the only one that's remotely similar, but she's missing a few key obvious traits and circumstances to create Eriri's personality.
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>>144612639
Why bother? You see nothing and cannot conceive any, so you're just going to dismiss them and disagree.
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>>144612499
I can see this happening. Tomoya is really fucked up in the head.
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>>144612682
>hears
ears*
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>>144612867
>she starts fucking other men for "research"
>"It's all Tomoya's fault he can't please me!"
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>Eriri is the true heroine of the story
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>>144613019
I'll throw money at Maruto if Eriri wins. It'll be greatest upset ever. The tears will be delicious.
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>>144613019
>Eriri is actually the boring girlfriend because Otaku's no longer find tsunderes exciting.
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>>144613136
Eriri is too inept to seize her advantage in the romantic race.
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>>144613136
If she wins, she'll throw it away. She always figures out how to ruin things in the most heartbreaking of ways.
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>>144612499
>>144612991
Desperate logic like this makes me wonder whether or not Megumifags are mentally ill.
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>>144613225
>>144613267
Oh god, your tears will be seriously delicious.
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>>144613136
>4 volumes have passed
>Megumi hasn't progressed at all
>Eriri keeps getting ahead

It's looking increasingly likely.
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>>144613282
Eriri haters are just clutching to bait reactions. Maruto said he isn't going to do another WS2 scenario. Whatever end, it's going to end on a happy note.
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>>144613312
What tears? I'm already ready for an open end.
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>>144604870
Or maybe Megumi likes to tease Tomoya she know he love her -_-
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>>144613312
But Megumi never loved Tomoya and never will. I'm not delusional you know.
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>>144613558
Enough with this lie.
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>>144613019
>Utaha is the true heroine of the story
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>>144612193
Seriously, look up Stockholm Syndrome and try to define their relationship using it. You can't so stop trying so hard.

Eriri is no more self-absorbed than Tomoya. They're both selfish, stubborn, and quarrel with each other. Eriri is arguably actually a bit more considerate in her own way since she has made decisions that hurts her too because it's what's best for Tomoya and herself. Tomoya has a soft spot for Eriri as an old flame that never faded away, but he holds onto grudges so there are things that still need to be worked. Being that, you can't even say he forgives her completely, much less imply he doesn't know faults when he sees them. The antic turned squabble Tomoya and Eriri got into in volume 10 reinforces this.
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>>144613019
>>144614153
How come Maruto hates Megumi?
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>>144614153
Utaha will forever be the 2nd place of every Saekano fans that are not Lelouch or reddit
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>>144614395
Megumi just gets the covers of the best volumes. Maruto doesn't whore her out.
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>>144613558
Serious lie is serious. Even dense Tomoya has picked up on the sarcasm and hinted jealousy in Megumi.
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>>144614395
Maruto's favorite archetypes are tsundere and kuudere. He intended the main girl to be the worst girl because he was under the impression that in LNs, side heroines are the best girls, but that backfired.
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>>144614337
Do you think hostages forgive completely their captors when this happens as well? They only sympathize with them and earn their trust. Eriri is the hurting side of the relationship, she's hurt as well but due to her own choices, Tomoya is on the receiving end. If this was a normal relationship, Tomoya would have forgotten about Eriri since she abandoned him as a child. His feelings would have waned out. Or he would have come to genuinely dislike her after she joined Akane. But they instead come off stronger each time.
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>>144614495
>>144613951
See
>>144553554
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>>144614795
>comparing them to hostages and captors when that's not how their relationship started nor is that how it is now
Since you're not going to take this seriously and only want to prolong baiting with circular logic then I won't take you seriously either.
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>>144614875
Heard you the first time. You're overthinking it and looking at something that isn't there. That doesn't explain why Megumi was jealous and acts sarcastic, which was done in no way to push Tomoya onto Eriri's route.
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>>144615111
That's not how it started but that's how Tomoya's feelings are stronger than ever despite everything.
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