Danganronpa Despair Arc

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Best girl

Left is pretty fucking hot.

Has Persona MC fucked her?

>144444444

>>144449850
Have u vote alredy for worst character?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10792673/r

>>144451022
He's the P4MC, of course he did

>>144449850
The fat guy in despair that somehow became skinny in future.

>>144452534
>Koameda got votes at all
who the fuck is voting in these things

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Naegi-kun

>>144450964
What's her power in her eyes?

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Mastermind Tier:
Junko Enoshima

Smarter than you Tier:
Nagito Komaeda, Kyouko Kirigiri, Mukuro Ikusaba, Chiaki Nanami, Chihiro Fujisaki

Literally "You" Tier:
Makoto Naegi, Hajime Hinata

Smarter than average Tier:
Byakuya Togami, Byakuya Togami, Genocider Jack, Gundham Tanaka

Average Tier:
Fuyuhiko Kuzuryuu, Touko Fukawa, Peko Pekoyama, Sakura Oogami, Celestia Ludenburg, Mahiru Koizumi, Sonia Nervermind, Hiyoko Saionji

Stupid Tier:
Kazuichi Souda, Mikan Tsumiki, Hifumi Yamada, Ishimaru Kiyotaka, Ibuki Mioda,

Retarded Tier:
Leon Kuwata, Sayaka Maizono, Teruteru Hanamura, Nekomaru Nidai, Mondo Oowada,

Nigger Tier:
Aoi Asahina, Yasuhiro Hagakure, Akane Owari

Characters are ranked in their tier in a descending order

>>144453944
more than half the cast from sdr2 were literally retarded. This is why the trials were harder than dr1.

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>>144453944
>best girl
>average tier
kill yourself

>>144453944
You listed byakuya twice.

>>144453944
>Literally "You" Tier:
What does that even mean?

>>144449850
w-why they keep killing waifus..? Asahinaaa

>>144454699
>This is why the trials were harder than dr1
good joke

>>144453944
>literally you
>not Hagakure

>>144453944
I'd put Hajime over Naegi and probably bump Sayaka onto average if only by her being able to deceive Naegi.

>>144453944
>anybody from dangling grandpas in any other tier than retarded
do I need to remind you of the first case?

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HOPE X FUTURE

I will never remember all these new fucker's names, except the one's that stick out.
Ryota is the cute fucboi
Bandai is the pure afroman
Sakakura is the trash
Gekkougahara is handicap
Persona is persona
And the rest I'm not even going to try

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>>144453944
But weedman IS the mastemrind, tho

>>144456033
>not remembering best bro The Great Gozu

>>144456033
i just call them
1. animator guy
2. gigga nigga
3. boxer guy
4. usami
5. pissed katana guy

I only remember Great Gozu because its short

>>144450964
Why does she wear the mask?

>>144454699
It was more because the PC needed to sometimes guess really, you couldn't see in some cases who really was the culprit in the trials.

Teruteru's trial for example i only discovered it was him in the middle of the trial after noticing he wasn't inside the party room.

And in mikan's trial although i really was suspecting of her i was also suspecting of Gundham because he could have used his hamsters to mess with the insides of the place of the death's.

>DR1
>Resident local prick is Togami
>Treats everyone like shit, but in a cool way
>Not hypocritical, go getter, alpha.
>Careful and precise with his douchebaggery

>DR3
>Resident total prick is Sakakura
>His only defining feature is that he's a violent fuckface
>Massive hypocrite and careless jackass
>No real redeeming features that make him fun to watch

Whatever happened to making assholes that we can admire in some way?

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>>144449850
Reminder Sayaka fuck Leon in hell and she never cared about Naegi.

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>more Ibuki tomorrow
Oh boy

I'm glad the horrendous voice nigger is dead.

>>144456267
Who do we slaughter if she gets no screentime?

>>144454699
The trials were harder because the new mechanics sucked. They made Hangman's Gambit worse, introduced the PTA thing that I still don't really understand despite having finished the game and generally made it mechanically worse.

>>144456229
The cool thing about Togami was that he was a bored rich boy.
He took things into his own hands, which was cool.

>>144456164
I don't think you have to guess at any point, you just have to remember things from the Investigation period that weren't written down as truth bullets. In DR2 I figured out pretty much every case when the game asked me to pick a suspect, and in DR1 I figured the murderer out way before the game asked me to, so I much prefered 2's trials.

>>144452534
>Hiyoko isn't on the poll

>>144456229
>Careful and precise with his douchebaggery

he literally desecrate Chichiro body and frame Toko risking his and eeveryone elses safety if they voted her or him off, just becuase "muh test"

He was a moron.

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>>144456267
I hope they don't start with the despair right away, I want some more SoL shit before it starts going down

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>>144456267
They should just call her FUN: the character.

>>144456229
>admiring Togami.

Togami messing up Chihiro's body was unforgivable.
I'm still wondering why they'd forgotten that he just did that, just to make "the trial funny".
He's a fucking douchebag

>>144456267
Oh god no. I hope she's mostly background.

>>144456335
I didn't figure out Mikan in the third trial. Everything was pointing out at Kazuichi and that he
A) tampered with the cameras
B) lied about not having a record function on them
C) had acess to the spying equipment that he used to spy on Sonia (and thus was aware that Hiyoko would go to the music avenue)

Mikan really didn't made sense to me

>>144456293
Mikan.

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>>144456470
I thought Kazuichi was going to be the killer for three trials, but then he survives until the end.

>>144456470
I thought Kazuichi was the culprit in three separate trials. In chapter 1 because I thought him messing with the fusebox and fucking the lights made sense and he was trying to pin the blame on Peko for shirking guard duty. In chapter 3 basically what you said. In chapter 4, especially, the way he was gunning for Hinata as the traitor and being a lot more abrasive, the elevator/clock fuckery, etc, it all pointed to him and Gundam felt like he came out of left field.

Not sure if I'm retarded, or I really just didn't like his character and kept finding reasons to make him out to be the culprit.

i forgot, was the impostor in the episode?

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>>144456544
I thought he was going to be one of the victims

>>144456377
>>144456347
It was funny as fuck you guys, everyone was scared and despairing and he just made lemonade fron lemons and made a cocky mislead to actually make it more entertaining
It's a game, it made the trial much better

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Wich boy would be the best girl?

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>>144456293
Every time

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>>144456632
[FORBIDDEN ONE] Tanaka

>>144456369
>Aoi grabbing Yasuke
No wonder she's dead

>>144456632
Komaeda I guess

>>144456544
>>144456582
I actually suspected Sonia in 4 trials
In chapter 2, she's wearing a full body wetsuit when she shows up at the diner
In chapter 3, she's the one who suggests Hiyoko go to the music venue (iirc)
In chapter 4, she didn't hear the noise, and I knew Nagito wasn't the killer
In chapter 5, she was the last one to appear at the warehouse

>>144456377
Togami is certainly more forgivable than Maizono, Asahina, Leon, Yamada, Celestia and the Despairs. He's never actually harmed a hair on anyone's head.

>>144456582
Nah, unlike weedman, he was way more suspicious with his skills.


Although the fact that he crushed on Sonia was probably the main hint why could never become a murdered. It woudn't be possible for him to get away without killing her.
I had similar prbolem in DR with Celestie. I didn't suspected her becasue she made clear in her interactions that SHE DOESN"T want to to leave and instyead preferred that we get used to the place. Only after she was found "attacked" and somehow managed to take a photo of the murderer, it was kind of obvious that she's fucking around.

>>144456632
Komaeda should have been girl, makes much more sense overall.

>>144454699
>more than half the cast from sdr2 were literally retarded.
It had fewer morons in it's cast than DR1 did. Problem was that it killed off more of it's non-morons than DR1 did over the course of the game too.

>This is why the trials were harder than dr1.
Nah, the trials in DR1 were just especially weakly written. That's not me knocking DR1 as a whole, it does certain things way better than DR2 does but cases aren't one of them. The atmosphere around them, a lot of the character motives, and so on were great. The mysteries themselves were all sloppily written and in most of them the culprit was near-immediately identifiable and their actions were usually hidden badly.

>>144456470
>Mikan really didn't made sense to me
You discovered enough during the investigation alone to atleast have her as a major suspect (assuming you're not counting how pretty early on in the trial it's made bluntly obvious that the murder must've happened in the hospital, which isolates Mikan as the main suspect)

>>144456629
Not realistic, the idiot treat it like dead bodies are made out of canndy instead being trapped with a murderer. He should be shitting his pants and hoping that he isn't a next victim instead this fuckery.

>>144456795
> I didn't suspected her becasue she made clear in her interactions that SHE DOESN"T want to to leave and instyead preferred that we get used to the place. Only after she was found "attacked" and somehow managed to take a photo of the murderer, it was kind of obvious that she's fucking around.
I've never seen anyone actually be fooled by Celeste's lies before.

I actually (mostly by Ultimate Luck-Bullshit) predicted every case correctly by myself.

Although I seriously rhough Byakuya would have murdered someone JUST to create a case elaborate enough for Makoto to prove himself.

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>tfw you will never protect their smiles
Why does this series hate families so much?

>>144456632
Kazuichi would be the only one i would interact with
Rest look like traps or feminist dykes

>>144456730
Are you me? I felt the same way as you for all except in chapter 4, where I was too convinced it was Kazuichi to really suspect anyone else. By chapter 5 it was practically a joke to me where I knew she'd never be guilty despite always being suspicious.

Also, another one for chapter 2, she was oddly obsessed with serial killers.

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>>144456893
I thought Byakuya was going to get murdered at some point because a lot of people hated him.
I also thought Kyoko was going to get murdered at some point because she's too helpful.
I guess I'm just silly, though

>>144456958
>I also thought Kyoko was going to get murdered at some point
Oh, she will

>>144456730
Yeah i only suspected her in chapter 2 and 5 for the same reasons as you

>>144456229
Togami was the king of douchebags.

>>144456817
>Komaeda should have been girl
It really wouldn't have changed much about his character so it's kind of pointless.

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>>144456986
I dunno at this point. It seems kind of predictable/normal at this point for either Makoto or Kyoko to die in DR3, which is why I'm expecting neither of them will die

>>144456738
>blamed entire case on Fukawa even though he knew she's innocent
>made Sakura kill herself becasue of suspicions

He was worse than Weedman, since he only spoke nonsense instead creating a dissent between the students

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>>144457059

Would've at least made me feel a bit better about myself when I fapped to Nagito

>>144457067
>>144456986
I wonder what Togami is up to during Future Arc

>>144457059
porn though

>>144456863
He's a cocky rich kid, the Draco Malfoy of this game, he's afraid of nothing
And why should he, he's got the serial killer under his command anyway
It's very realistic for him to be like that

>>144457067
I'm thinking it'smore likely that Makoto will die, what with the 'end of both our stories' sort of talk.

"Chiaki" is clearly actually the ultimate imposter since she doesnt exist.

Ultimate animator is just legit fat in the past and didnt enter the simulation.

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>>144456164
>It was more because the PC needed to sometimes guess really
The only case across both games where at the time I felt that I had to guess was in Nagito's case - and then the game points out that I had a piece of evidence for a while now with which I could've identified the person being talked about

What I actually think the case is here is that some people prefer how DR1 makes mysteries solveable before you even start the trial for the most part
whereas some other people prefer DR2's approach where you have enough to have a list of suspects (including the actual culprit, each case in the game does enough pre-trial for this though sometimes it's well-hidden) and spend a lot of the trial discussing with the rest of the cast what the hell happened

I'm sure some people here will see it as a cop-out way to look at it given how unnecessarily confrontational you guys love being but it really is just a matter of personal preference I think.

>>144454699
DR1 trials were already easy because you could guess the murderer just by looking who got additional screentime during the chapter.

The toughest case in DR2 for me was 4 because I didn't want to believe Tanaka was the killer. 2-5 is still the most fun case though.

>>144457119
>>144457139
>porn
You make a fair point FemNagito doujins would be good.
But seriously, it probably would've just made it so there would be more shipperfags, though I do wonder if it would've changed anything significant about his character.

>>144457067
>that body still not impregnated by Naegi
Is he disgusted of her hands?

>>144457217
>"Chiaki" is clearly actually the ultimate imposter since she doesnt exist.
SHSL Imposter being disguised as someone who doesn't exist makes no sense and doesn't fit his/her character at all though.

>>144457217
Chiaki obviously existed, she's gonna get massacred by Izuru once the despair goes down. AI Chiaki was based on Real Chiaki in an attempt to help piece back together Hinata's lost memories (assuming he was close to her before becoming Izuru, which first ep seems to already be gunning for).

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DR1
>smart
Byakuya, Kyoko, Sakura, Chihiro, Junko
>debatable
Celeste, Makoto, Genocider
>dumb
Toko, Ishimaru, Mondo, Asahina, Hifumi, Leon, Hagakure, Sayaka, Mukuro

DR2
>smart
Chiaki, Komaeda, Mahiru, Hajime, Twogami
>debatable
Sonia, Fuyuhiko, Peko, Gundam
>dumb
Kazuichi, Nekomaru, Ibuki, Mikan, Hiyoko, Akane, Teruteru

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>>144457067
That would be the smart thing to do. Deaths for the sake of more deaths is stupid unless Kiri turns evil or something
And of course they won't have the balls to kill off the main character.

>>144457302
Kirigir is one of my least fave girls and I would knock her up in that suit ten times over

>>144457318
>>144457329
Then she existed, but during a different time, or maybe in a different class.
Check your watches :^)

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>Wants to save everyone

Why is he so pure/delusional?

Just kill them Naegi,kill them all

>>144457296
Instead of having a full opposite of Junko in both gender and beliefs we would have had a HopeJunko
A lot would have changed, no Makoto Naegi Da fuckery, no treating Nagito like shit like tying him up and barely feeding him because girls are rarely treated that badly
But yeah doujins would have been insane, especially if they made her Junko-tier hot

Trial 1 was pure madness.
I expected Nagito to be the killer because he made it super obvious and i expected the first case to be a complete easy thing like in the first game.

Trial 2 took me a while and at the end the thing was just sad.

Trial 3 was fun to solve but i liked Ibuki and with Mikan going batshit insane it was kinda eh.

Trial 4 was great because it was fun to think about the funhouse architecture. And Tanaka being the big bad was a late realization and so to not easy to take as well. I visited him for his FTL because i liked reading him beyond his image.

And trial 5 was like wild ride like trial 1 but even more amazing. I was thinking the entire time that it was really a simple suicide with some message behind it that could give everyone some important clue towards the end.

>>144457171
>be trapped
>witness people getting murdered
>you have as much chances to die as them
>have your family recorded on tape getting abducted
>become a witness in one of the survivors trying to hide evidence of his crime
>lol lets have fun and work toward satisfying the maniacal mastemrind and work toward killing myself after rest of the survivors panick and suddenly vote for Naegi or Toko even though i knew it wasn't him
Would they really even believed him if he said that it was Mondo? Mondo would simply played dumb and that idiot would have killed everyone.

What if Naegi actually IS the traitor, actually WAS working with Junko, the two of them had planned her death from the start, and we've been on the biggest ruse cruise of all time?

>>144457454
>Togami shows up, sees what a mess the FF has made
>Naegi, kill them.

>>144457484
I actually suspected Peko in chapter 2 the moment she said she was swimming for 3 hours with no witness and nothing to show for it. But the rest of the pre-trial stuff kept throwing me for loops; I thought it was gonna be Chiaki at first when the game got introduced, I thought it would be Mahiru when she started acting suspicious before she wound up being the victim, I thought it was Sonia like >>144456730 and then I went full-circle back to Peko by the middle of the trial but I actually did buy into her being the serial killer, so I still came out surprised.

>>144457536
Did you ever play Heavy Rain? Because that twist here would be bullshit for the same reason it was there. You can't put us in a character's head and have them lie to us.

>>144457559
Would Naegi's inability to not follow Togami's orders overpower his Hopefagging drive?

>>144457476
>no Makoto Naegi Da fuckery
Well Kodaka could've still tried to fuck us with that, you know people would try to make sense of it in some way.
>no treating Nagito like shit like tying him up and barely feeding him because girls are rarely treated that badly
Debatable, they still could have done it but they would probably feel bad about it,
>But yeah doujins would have been insane, especially if they made her Junko-tier hot
This is the only thing were really missing out on, hope slut Nagito would be incredible. I think I've actually seen one femNagito doujin somewhere.

>>144457302
I;m starting to think that Naegi is turning into a vegetable when he is not controlled by a player.
In DR1 it take 5 weeks in school mode to have her as your girlfriend. And after all this time + 2-3 years of working with her, he still didn't even scored the first base.

>>144457605
Heavy Rain would have made more sense if they just didn't remove the paranormal aspect.

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>>144457507
They would have deserved to die if they were that stupid
>>144457536
Makoto would become my favorite character
I'd really love it if that were true, much better than "Makoto is already half Junko"

>>144457507
We don't have any idea what he saw on his DVD, though. He seemed shocked when Junko said the Togami Group went under in the final trial so it couldn't have been that.

>>144457663
Romance has no proper focus in this series, despite what shipperfags like to say, that's all it is. /a/ should be more familiar with this sorta thing than most people even.

>>144457454
He's a manlet. Being nice is his only strategy at getting laid.

>>144457579
Trial 2 had no clear suspect for me. It was clear that it wasn't Hiyoko because her running away at that time made it obvious.
Didn't think about Peko. Maybe because i never really noticed her in general or felt like paying attention to her.

Ms. Princess was only a suspect for me in trial 4 and that only for a short time because i expected the thing between her, Tanaka and Kazu to explode.

Her being suspicious in trial 5 was a non issue because the ''suicide'' got obvious very fast and her hanging around the base being related to the bombs made sense.

>>144457536
That would be retarded

But I wouldn't count out Kirigiri

>>144457654
>FemNagito x Junko doujins
It would have been glorious

>>144453944
How the fuck can you think Genocider is smarter than Toko? Toko is insanely booksmart, while Genocider is just insane

Also Kiyotaka takes pride in how learned he is, and you can't be stupid to have a talent like Souda or Mikan's


You're basing intelligence too much on personality instead of actual skills and achievements. Evident by how low you used to put Gundam.

>>144457817
Booksmart=/smart

Toko is too emotional with how she makes conclusions, while genocider actually doesn't seem too dumb when it comes to understanding situations and such.

>>144457711
His butler is one of the captives in Danganronpa ANother. He knew that he was in danger and instead was fooling around making fictional evidence on a person that he knew didn't killed anyone. He was creating obstacles for the player for entire game. And basically led to Sakura's demise.

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Do you think she will show up in Future arc at all?
She was kind of teased in the OP a little.

Can't wait for her to appear in Despair arc though, holy fuck it is going to become a wild ride then.

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>>144457971
>Do you think she will show up in Future arc at all?
In flashbacks maybe.
I don't think we will get yet another Junko AI visit.

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I want to get off of Chiaki's wild ride

>>144458016
I can't wait for grey culprit-kun to appear, he was my favorite character

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>>144456905
She can still come back anon, we haven't made it to the end yet.

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Juzo is such an ass. He makes Mondo look like a saint in comparison.

>>144458016
As retarded as it would be, I would just love it in the final episode while everyone is trying to figure out who is controlling Monokuma, she just walks out like a smug fuck.

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>>144458040
>its Chiaki! fags
>It's Chisa! fags
>It's Bandai! fags
And recently, reddit is full of people whp say that Anahina was the traitor.
Can you all please kill yourself?

>>144457960
He forced Toko to reveal Syo, that's a pretty big thing
Imagine if Syo killed him, how do you even deal with that? He was the only one who knew, he was protecting everyone and making things interesting
And Sakura killed herself instead of helping out other people, she could have broken down any door in the school, and she was invincible against Monokumas, but she still took the easy way out, Sakurafags are the worst

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>>144458080
I hope he becomes less of a cunt later on because his design reminds me of Saejima from Yakuza.

>>144458059
I was really hoping in this week's Future half, during the calm while everyone was knocked out, we would get to see culprit-kun wandering around, but I guess they couldn't do that

>>144458123
STOP SPECULATING IN THIS MYSTERY SERIES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>144457960
I'm not arguing with you that Togami did some dumb shit, but I think it's unfair to pin Oogami's suicide entirely on him. Tensions were high with everyone, and even Kirigiri was acting like a cunt towards Naegi during the same chapter. I think she just decided it was the safest way to diffuse the situation and bring everyone back together, not just Togami.

>>144458156
He and Persona man are probably going to become much more likeable in the end, just like Byakuya.

>>144457971
>have children with her dead body
That's me.

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>>144458212
Wait for the backstory to kick in.
After a few murders the despair will set it.

This won't be about Naegi running away from two guys for 10 episodes.

>>144458155
She killed herself becasue Byakuya was talking shit and led Toko to attack Anahina. He fucked up everything and didn't deserve to live.

>>144458212
>implying both will make it to the end

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Mukuro

>>144458272
Persona will survive.
He has the power of merchandise on his side.

Boxer dying is pretty much confirmed though.

>>144449850
yes

>>144458272
I have a feeling Juzo is going to go out like a badass but Persona man is setting up to be a rival type character, he will most likely survive.

Then again, this is Danganronpa, fuck knows what will go down.

>>144458180
It's because the speculation is based on shit like similar design of their models without making any sense when it comes to motive.


We may as well play a lottery with who did it were not going to use nay eveidence to support any theory

Who else here thinks its possible that the whole Monokuma Hunter game is just an elaborate ruse to suss out whether Naegi really is a traitor or not?

>>144458321
Juzo has a figure made too. Announced the same time as Kyosuke's.

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>>144458353
>They were merely pretending

>>144449850
I think it's actually the fat animator, even though that's so plain as day it could be a red herring.

Chiaki is also probably Gekkogahara in future arc.

>>144458180
I only get mad when people speculate something with loose as shit grounds for it, and pretend they're a prophet when they throw a trillion stones into the sky and finally hitting 1 bird.
Like people who predict X character will die, like, no shit, everyone has a chance of dying, your analysis is worth jack shit.

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>Despair is only like 12/13 episodes
And they need so resolve:


>The backstory about the Ultimate Despairs
>The future of the Ultimate Despairs

With that there is not much time for SoL. Maybe one episode at best. After that the show will be about Junko and how she turned everyone into one of her minions one by one and what happend after that.

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This OP is just so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paQoC-hoQxo

Just caught up with the series.

I can't believe Asahina died. I'm pretty sad. It's interesting how they ended the episode how they did though since you have no idea how they entered the room or the status of everyone else.

And I have to wonder if Makoto's action is that he can't open doors. Would make sense as to why he stopped chasing.

>>144458123
>Browsing reddit
>Getting mad over speculation in a mystery show

>>144458470
I'm pretty sure we're also going to see the events of the video game from 2-2 go down.

>>144458484
When will we get full versions of both OPs?

>>144458238
How even, though? She was ground into fucking paste. It's already stretching it to imagine people recovered her limbs and eyeballs.

>>144458557
Junko is clearly superhuman

i hope that white hair council president man and his lackey both die early

>>144458254
Sakura could have started by knocking down the monitor room door and showing them that room
She knew what was in there but didn't do it
No wonder he was talking shit, they had a traitor who was working for Monokuma since day one, I'd be on Byakuya's side, I'm not just gonna take your word for it, give me something to make me trust you and don't call a secret meeting with people
And then Sakura killed herself instead of fighting back
Sakura was corrupted by Monokuma for another futile reason like the others killed over, no wonder Junko was laughing about it
Chiaki was a good person while still being the traitor

>>144458484
Also I love that the ED is sung by hopeman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLHgrRpv51s

>>144458552
I expect the anime to be about Junkos way to power with the epilogue moving to the island to show some or all of the comatose Despairs waking up and starting a new life.

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Did someone say... Traitor?

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>>144458484
>everything from 0:40-1:00
Holy shit, so good.

>>144456299
I swear PTA has some major input lag at least on the PC version. I made no fucking progress later on except with the focus ability where you can't miss.

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>>144458484
Full version WHEN

>>144456905
They can have swimming contests in heaven with less bombs

>>144458617
DR0 covers Junko's rise pretty neatly, so Despair Arc is probably gonna be more about the class' fall

Oh, and if that hanging Kyoko / walking Makoto thing really does happen (which I really hope it does), I'm gonna be sad as fuck if it's not dubbed over with Gourmet Race within the hour.

>>144458617
That's awfully hopeful. I wouldn't expect such a happy ending.

>>144458526
posting useless "guesses" about victims, culprits and ppossible plot developments and twists is useless and annoying.

The only contructive theory so far is that

1. Traitor is the 16th person (who is not Hagakure due to him not playing)

2. They changed locations between ep 1 and ep2 due to people pointing out Kirigiri's discovery

3. The only one with a motive so far is Kanon due to having a hateboner on Future FOundatons


Rest is assuptions out of their asses wanting to hit something blindly.

>>144458749
They need to answer that atleast to complete the story.

At worst Hajime will join Makoto and say that it was impossible to bring them back to life and ends up joining the squad.

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So am I missing anything here when it comes to bracelets:

> Naegi
Don't run in the halls

> Kirigiri
Don't talk to men/Naegi

> Persona
Don't open doors

> Farmer
Don't witness violence

> Boxer
Unclear, but it does seem like it would be violence related. Possibly "Don't punch" as he's used a knife and knees since the game started, which is odd for a boxer.

> Animator
Don't allow women to be harassed (We have to assume that, Traitor aside, rules don't count when sleeping, otherwise he would be dead when Chisa died)

> Wheelchair
Don't be touched

> Blacksmith
Don't eat? Or something to do with showing romantic gestures in front of an audience.

> Weedman
Don't be in the game

> Great Gozu
Speculating big time here, but could be something like "Don't leave Naegi's side" or "Don't allow Naegi to be killed when awake", which may be the real reason he's fighting so hard to keep him alive. Might be clearer when he reacts to Aoi's death in Episode 3, but if the Masterminds main target is a final battle with Naegi, having him protected by the strongest person there seems the smartest thing to do to ensure their dream final showdown.

> Chisa
It's unknown, but it's inevitably going to end up being super important when somebody (Likely Kirigiri) bothers to go check.

> Old Man/Fedora/Candy Girl/Mask Lady/Aoi/16th Person
Hasn't been enough evidence from them so far to even guess. Is it possible that one of them is the Traitor and so their rule is "Don't kill more or less than one person during sleeping time"?

>>144458763
>1. Traitor is the 16th person (who is not Hagakure due to him not playing)
Do we even know for certain that the 16 wasn't including Hagakure? How do we know he's not a participant?

>>144458697
Honestly I just assumed I was shit at it because I probably was, but I found out afterwards the the PC port does have weird framerate issues with PTA.

>>144458801
>Weedman
>Don't be in the game
He's doing great so far

>>144458807
He's not wearing a bracelet in the intro and he was outside when shit went down. Also, "the villain is actually a hidden extra participant" was the main twist in the last ZE game, so people are throwing it out here too (which makes sense because the writers are friends and the series have similar twists).

>>144458557
Wasn't Mukuro's body all dressed up as Junko? Just saying.

Sure she would be a bit char grilled around the head area, but there would be a hole for everybody to work with. And at least at that point her chest wouldn't be as flat as her sisters.

>Weedman
Don't smoke

>>144458896
>Also, "the villain is actually a hidden extra participant" was the main twist in the last ZE game
FUCK, i thought i was safe here. I'm only just finished with 999

>>144458801
I'm going to guess Gozu's is to not allow anyone to be murdered. (Within reason of course, during sleepy time he can't do shit)
Doesn't make sense for character specific actions quite yet and someone already had one about witnessing general violence, perhaps allowing a murder is a forbidden action.

>>144458896
Never mind Zero Escape, it was the main twist in the first DanganRonpa game as well...

>>144453944
>Mukuro
>smarter than Togami

Kek

>>144458914
The killing game was televised world wide. They'd be idiots to confuse Junko and Mukuro's corpses.

>>144458807

The introduction of the rules doesn't include Hagakure's sprite.

And if they changed locations, then Monokuma was already aware that Hagakure is not only in the building but also not in the same island as the game.

>>144458943
You have a chance to stop then, you're lucky. ZTD is horrifically shit, so don't bother with the rest of the series.

>>144458914
UD knew Mukuro though, right? They could probably tell the difference. Matsuda definitely could, and Junko ragged on her sister for her disguise sucking (though that could just be Junko being a bitch).

>>144456265
Autist kun!

>>144458801
Gozu will explain that he has "don't tak your mask off" but in reality he has "don't let Naegi die before the rest" as he is the real attacker

>>144456229
Dude you must be retarded or something

>>144458156
I think that he has his own intentions in all of this. Munakata wanted Makoto punished and all but he wanted a proper trial, which got delayed only because Juzo injured the guy.

This + him getting killed by Munakata's sword in his execution visual the OP + his surname's kanji literally meaing "to defy/to oppose" makes it seem like he's probably not going to be by Munakata's side the entire time but I'm pretty sure he's not going to be on Makoto's side either.

>>144458923
RIP Weedman

Also, I'm betting that the 16th participant is hidden under the wheelchair girl's wheelchair, Acro style.

>>144458991
>>144459022

Most of them were crazy as fuck though. So you either try to fuck some fine paste, or just settle for the next best thing.

>>144459073
>Gozu starts baneposting

>>144459093
Is someone butthurt that Togami fucked your waifu?

>>144459123
Mukuro's corpse also had a bomb detonated on it. It wasn't really in a good condition either.

>>144458522
What? Naegi showed Asahina in that very episode that his action is that he can't run. Persona-kun is the one who most likely can't open doors.

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>>144456229
The only good "Rich Asshole in a Suit" in this series so far has been the Baby Gangsta

>>144456730
Same. There was more pointing to Sonia as the killer for chapter 2 than Peko imo

>>144459123
I wouldn't be surprised if it is Mukuro, tbqh. There must be a reason the hand Nagito took was Junko's left hand when Mukuro has her tattoo on her right hand. Just saying they're gonna have to explain that shit. Just saying it's Mukuro's corpse because she was dressed up like Junko isn't good enough. Gotta come up with a reason why they wouldn't know, or why they didn't notice the tattoo, etc. I'm sure it's not impossible, but the lazy way would be to just not explain it.

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>>144459201
Punished Fuyuhiko was great.

>>144456299
>They made Hangman's Gambit worse

How can they make it worse when its the IMPROVED Hangman's Gambit? :^)

>>144459270
Best Despair.

>>144458697
I equipped skills that increased focus pretty much solely for PTA so I could just fever time my way through it as quickly as possible. Sadly there was no such way to cheat Hangman.

>>144456164
yeah

it was kind of dumb how room placement wasn't a truth bullet in the funhouse case. even when it came to "choose the guy in the other luxury room" i had no idea because i totally forgot who nagito said was in those rooms. i thought it might have been important but honestly unless i wrote it down how the fuck was i supposed to remember

>>144450964
>KISSANIME

Get the fuck out and learn to steal anime properly you retard.

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>>144459240
What if they have cloned Junko?

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Why are FF members so incompetent?

>>144459395
Then they wouldn't have needed the AI back-up plan.

>>144459343
Should I be concerned about something I don't know?

>>144459343
Not a streamer, but the quality really isn't that bad.

>>144459398
Because their programming sucks

>>144459395
Better than it being her child from the future / robo junko / another ai / Monaca, but not as good as it being ghost junko / Arkham Knight Junko

>>144459398
shitty leadership desu

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>>144456632
Would you a Forbidden One?

>>144459022
VLR is definitely worth going through even if all the sequel setup went nowhere.

did anyone think nekomaru was traitor in dr2

once nagito mentioned the first three cases were similar to the first game i thought for sure he was traitor - i didn't think he killed himself but traitor seemed clear to me

i also thought akane was the murderer in chapter 2 because of the blood. thought nekomaru helped her then

>>144459201
More or less, he looks like he got Togami's paper from DR1 on chapter 2


>douchebag till exposed
>Pratically did the kill on mahiru
>knew who the killer was
>Only starts helping after chapter 2
>still tries to act like a douchebag

>>144459512
i want to breed with this breeder

>>144458943
Agreed, I know the series' have enough overlap that it might come up in discussion, but I haven't had a chance to play ZTD yet and really don't want to be spoiled just because I want to talk about DR with /a/ like old times. These threads have been pretty comfy so far so it'd be cool if ZEfags could spoil that shit.

>>144459398
I really hope that person who is behind it has some good reason and is not bascially
>Chisa, Ryota, Anahina, Kyoko, Naegi
or whatever just because Kodaka think that it would be clever to use somoene who doesn't have a reason to do it.
I want the deaths to have some significance and not have "Kyoko betrayed them and killed them becasue she's depressed now, lol" or "weedman is the mastermind since DR1 because he is actuall an ayylmao"

>>144459427

You're on /a/, how fucking new are you?

>>144459526
>still tries to act like a douchebag
He tries to maintain a tough guy persona (which no one takes seriously) but that's about it really

>>144459648
/a/ being /a/ is no reason to be elitist over something that has only marginally been true for the last few years.

>>144459332
I remembered because I finished Gundam's free times during the funhouse arc and thus visited it a lot. I didn't feel like he was really foreshadowed for the case at all, though, so when I got to that part of the trial I was like, I know who was in that room, but...what? It can't be, right?

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>>144459550

>>144458254
You clearly didn't play the chapter at all and are clearly showing your autism you fucking retard

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>>144459512
I would hold her hand.

>>144458801
>Don't talk to men/Naegi

This one is false. She addresses the entire room when they first notice the bracelets, telling everyone not to reveal their NG code. There were other men there, AND Naegi was there too.

>>144459823
>I didn't feel like he was really foreshadowed for the case at all, though
>"HAHAHA WATCH HOW I CAN ORDER MY HAMSTER TO PUSH THIS BUTTON! LOOK AT IT!"
It's there, it's just easy to not think too much about it in favor of other shit that happens.

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>>144459648
Honestly, I'm more of a /co/mrade. I'm just here because you have better DR discussions than /v/ does, and I ain't touching that /vg/ avatarfagging circlejerk.

>>144459941
Don't, its poison.

>>144460082
>implying I don't have a singularity
step up senpai

>>144459199
Oh I guess I mixed the names up. I thought Persona's first name was Makoto.

>>144460017
If she addresses the girls it's not her fault if the guys overhear. It's not like she's actually talking to them directly.

>>144460131
then do it asshole
its not like i care about you, anon.

>>144460174
I highly doubt Monokuma would let her get away with that, and I also doubt she'd be dumb enough to risk it.

>>144452791
He didn't become skinny. They are two different people. The fat one is the imposter who was Togami in Dangan Ronpa 2.

They are incapable of being themselves so they take on the identity of someone else but everyone knows they're the imposter.

>>144460342
What I want to know is why animator is so important that imposter-kun would imitate him to begin with.

>>144460396
They choose whoever they want to be and pretend to be them.

>>144460396
I don't think it was necessarily that they were important, maybe he just felt like being him.
Also didn't he turn into togami to destroy his empire from within?

>>144460417
Yes, but from the meta perspective, why would the producers make him impersonate the guy who's in the other anime, specifically? That tells me he's significant somehow.

>>144460342
I'm not sure they do know. Otherwise, wouldn't maid be looking for the actual animator in addition to the impostor? We know that impostor and animator were both in class 77

>>144460396
> Animator has strict deadlines
> "Imposter, could you cover for me at school"
> "Sure bro."
> Deadline was animating DanganRonpa 3
> Only gets poor reviews from the Remnants of Despair because the "Blood doesn't look realistic. Why is it Red?"

The killer is no one in particular rather the condition placed on their

>>144460457
Easy way to confuse the audience and make animator seem like he is part of the remnants of despair if people aren't smart enough to realise he's imposter-kun.

>>144460477
Animator was a former student. It reads former student dorms on the building when they introduce them. That's how you know.

So we're all in agreement the finale of both shows will be a stealth two-parter where some character in the Future arc will either time-travel to Despair or somehow possessing a character in it from across time in order to stop the Tragedy in advance, right?

Personally I'm hoping Weedman is the one who does it. I want to see him kill Junko.

>>144460523
>Why is it Red
But everyone refers to blood as red in the games

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>>144460523
> Only gets poor reviews from the Remnants of Despair because the "Blood doesn't look realistic. Why is it Red?"

>>144460565
I think it'll be a 2-parter, but probably not in that way. I think the killing game won't end in the last episode of Future, and will instead concluded in the final despair ep, which will see Despair kids(some or all) coming to help, and proving that they've overcome their past

>>144460565
Yeah, I'm expecting either a character will travel between the two shows or the finale of Despair will have a big reveal drop that rexontextualises the bittersweet ending of Future into a happy ending.

There's no point to seperating and then simultaneously airing them like this unless there's a direct connection between them at least at the end.

The killer is no one in particular rather the condition placed on their bracelets is that they have to kill someone or they will die.

This leads to the characters having to decide between their own life or someone else's.

>>144460523
> Animator has strict deadlines
> "Imposter, could you cover for me at school"
> "Sure bro."
I want this to be true.

>>144460701
>>144460690
Yeah, I'm expecting "Ultimate Despair saves the day" way more than I am "Weedman possesses his past self and kills Junko"

>>144458697
PTA on PC has timing issues with the audio due to how it's loaded but it sucks on Vita too.

>>144460728
>a different character gets the order every 'day'
>AI Junko set the whole thing up with Monaca's assistance so they could watch the FF fall into despair as it tore itself apart

>>144460565
>>144460690
>>144460701

So if this does happen, anyone who watches it after it's done airing is gonna be confused as shit, right?

And while I could see a two-parter with an information carryover or the despair kids coming to help the future cast, pls no time travel. If the words "Morphogenetic Fields" are said, I'm gonna kill myself.

>>144460565
I'm thinking Despair arc "Ends" two episodes early or something, and gets their twist sorted first.

Remainder of Future arc becomes Hope Arc (As Future Foundation will be beyond repair at that point, but Naegi and Persona will instead build a new Hope together), while the remaining episodes of Despair become the "New Future".

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>>144460785
>yfw the terrorist Delta saw destroying the world was Junko all along

>>144460841
I'd lose my fucking shit.

I don't even think I could get angry at ZTD anymore if that happened, I'd be laughing too fucking hard at the balls on Kodaka and Uchikoshi to care.

>>144460781
I feel like the same traitor every time rather than a rotation makes more sense given the rules of this game. And if it was a rotation, why would they fight so hard to get Naegi to kill himself or lock him up or whatever? If they'd done that, it wouldn't have mattered, because the killer can simply be someone new each time and it would have solved nothing.

Reminder that in every game the "traitor" was actually a good person and you shouldn't think the anime will be any exception.

Anyone taken a good guess at what the Great Gozu's forbidden action is?

>>144461046
The first game the traitor was dead.
The second game, everyone except Gamerfu was a traitor.

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>>144461046
I'm sure they're murdering people with the best of intentions.

>>144461046
The past 2 traitors didn't kill people, though.

>>144461106
Not really. Chiaki really was the traitor, it's just that it took the cast forever to understand that the Future Foundation was actually their ally, making the traitor good.

>>144461046
Reminder that if things in this series were going to play out with the same rules as DR1 and 2 it wouldn't be done as an anime. They're doing it differently to show that shit's going to play out different this time.

>>144449850
My waifu Chiaki is real? Time to pick up this shit.

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>>144461046
Do they have the balls to make her the traitor again?

>>144461150
>FF was their ally
FF wanted them dead. Naegi and company were their allies. Remember when Junko pretended to be him? That was when they worked that specific part out.

>>144461102
He's a minotaur, so he can't leave the building.

Much like minotaurs can't leave the labyrinth or let anyone else out.

>>144461208
not surprised Aoi died. She was always kind of a hard character to work with. She's the normal girl with a basically useless talent. Not much you can do with her from a writing perspective, she pretty much was a fully actualized character from the time she first appeared.

>>144461214
Yep, my bad.

>>144461292
But she's REALLY REALLY cute though.

>>144461208
"Sorry for not surviving longer."

So what will be the theme for DR3? We had
DR1:Hope
DR2:Future
DRAE: Friendship
DR3:???

>>144461242
I guess that would explain why he doesn't just make an exit because apparently he's strong enough to break through concrete.

>>144461351
End

>>144461106
Sakura was the actual "Traitor". Mukuro was the assistant.

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>Bandai is already dead
>so is Asahina

What a fucking waste. Why couldn't it have been someone lame like the sweets girl? And I think they should have at least waited more than two minutes to kill someone via bracelet rather than blowing their load right away.

At least I still have Gozu for now.

>>144461351
Eroticism.

>>144461373
That's my line of thinking. You can't introduce a character who can bust through concrete without imposing some rule about it.

>>144461242
Going on the Can't Run Zombie Naegi and Can't Open Doors Vampire Persona, what on earth would the monster link to "Don't see violence" be?

>>144461431
What's this monster deal, new speculation or what?

>>144461431
Wait who can't open doors?

>>144461433
Why is Izuru molesting a corpse?

>>144461373
>>144461414
They mentioned that the floors were weak because of the bombs though so maybe that isn't the case?

>>144461484
he got bored

>>144461408
>And I think they should have at least waited more than two minutes to kill someone via bracelet rather than blowing their load right away.

This is my pet peeve with those stories, when a character is killed quickly for the rest to go "See, the threats are real!"

It's such a waste of a character, especially this time as Monokuma has literally demonstrated it on one of his own Robot bodies already.

>>144461431
An Angel? Something Biblical? Jesus died for our sins.

I posted a big mythical creatures theory a few threads back, got no replies though.

Traitor could be a werewolf.

>>144457329
So you're telling me that Chihuro, the shyest mofo in the entire school, had enough human interactions with an actual person, a girl, to be able to recreate her entire personality? Ofc you could argue that he maybe saw her in the hallways or some shit, and just based her AI personality off that, but that's too far out there. Poor fucker just wanted a perfect gamer waifu, so he made one. I also call bullshit on Chisa being dead. Or existing.

>>144461484
That is his fetish.

>>144461537
>>144461431
Oh yeah, I also had Mermaid Kirigiri. Since in the little mermaid she lost her voice.

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What's she saying, /a/?
I want to monster hunt with you

>>144461478
The fact the President didn't follow them when Naegi slammed the door shut makes people theorise that his bracelet is that he can't open doors.

This has also made Bandai suspicious in some peoples eyes as he made sure to carefully close the doors behind him when he came back from his search, despite not having a real need to

>>144461431
what's this about monster links?

>>144461584
But she can talk. We've been over this. She's the one who suggests not sharing the NG codes.

>>144461408
>Why couldn't it have been someone lame like the sweets girl?
She hasn't done anything yet though. She already has more going for her through her hating Kimura + that one brief conversation she & Vash the Stampede had in ep2 than what Asahina had for most of DR1 too.

>And I think they should have at least waited more than two minutes to kill someone via bracelet rather than blowing their load right away.
Agreed on that much atleast

>>144461537
Seeing as the game is literally the same ruleset as Werewolf, the Traitor being a Werewolf is the easiest comparison to make of them all really.

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I really wish we could've saved her.

>>144461610
>president
Sore wa chigau zo Kyosuke, you're not the fucking president

>>144461609
BONE THE MEAT ON

>>144461634
It's just a speculative theory that there may be some thematic reasoning behind the Bracelet rules. "Future Foundation are the monsters" basically.

>>144461641
The main theory is that she can't talk to Naegi/Men though.

In the little Mermaid she exchanges her voice for legs so she can marry a guy. It's no more a stretch than the other ideas.

>>144461674
Why?
Unless they stuck her in the Neo World Program, she would have just helped Junko kill everyone

>>144461292
Well, they found a use for her as Naegi's main method of locomotion.

>>144461691
MOTIVES OF THE COMPLEX

>>144461710
Not according to IF

>>144461655
I've only heard the game called Mafia when I've played it. But if it solidifies the connection even more I'm happy with that.

>>144461674
You can if you get the IF Switch in the "Naegi gets with Mukuro timeline"

>>144461724
He's still got based Gozu to carry him around.

>>144461744
IF required a very, very blunt deus ex machina to get Mukuro to change her views, the story doesn't try to hide this.

>>144461744
IF is a fanfic.

>>144461772
all IF required was Mukuro dodging the Spears of Gungnir and her realizing that Junko was trying to kill her

so Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair is finally on pc so i can finnally pirate it
where do i dl this shit
i mean
where do i download the fan fiction called Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair FAN FICTION VER

>>144459293
It's easy in the japanese version because the minigame uses few characters/letters.

>>144461800
Go read it again. Makoto having knowledge he couldn't feasibly have is the cornerstone of everything in that story.

>>144461793
so are DRK and UDH and they're canon

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>>144461691

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>>144461804
First you must kill yourself for hope.

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>>144461351
You already know.

>>144461525
I hated how they killed lil bro Asahina in AE literally minutes after introducing him just to show what happens if they tried to escape.

>>144461858
this guy is shit

>>144461837
You don't need Makoto regaining his memories for her to avoid the spears. It's what gets everybody to trust Mukuro at the end but if you don't need a deus ex machina for her to turn against Junko.

>>144461858
PCGames-Download.Net

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>>144461710
DR:IF implies that because she always had a thing for Naegi (which may mean his Hope is so strong he can even fix someone who calls themselves Ultimate Despair), that she was starting to become unreliable to go through with the plan, which is why Junko betrayed her.

In IF, Naegi is able to save Mukuro from the spears. Junko immediately tries to capitalise on this by pretending to be a hacker from outside trying to save them, announcing that Mukuro is Ultimate Despair and that Naegi is her accomplice, basically trying to send the 13 Hopes Peak students after the pair. As Naegi is injured, Mukuro takes it upon herself to deliver her "beloved sister the Ultimate gift of Despair by shutting down the evil plan herself" (She ends up getting help from Sakura though)

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Post your predictions for tomorrow's episode

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Junko has made me reflect and question my own morals more than anything in recent years.
I believe I have a strong sense of justice, and doing the right thing, even if you're the underdog.
But I also have an odd craving to worship and blindly follow anything Junko says, even though I know she would toss me away without much thought.

>>144461921
Nagito does crazy shit in the name of hope because Junko told him to.

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Togami finally confirmed for DR3 Mirai-Hen.

>>144461921
My asshole puckered.

>>144461938
Junko is a crazy cartoon character whose main goal is to get her rocks off on making people sad. If you feel compelled to do what she wants you are a crazy easily-influenced person.

>>144461525
I generally agree with this, but I'm glad we don't have to listen to afro-kun's voice anymore. Still, they could have waited a bit longer to kill Asahina.

>>144461921
More fun sol stuff
Also a Junko introduction and the slow turn towards despair begins

>>144461885
But he is right about this point

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>>144461973
But I'm not sure if I would actually do it, that's what I'm trying to decide on it.
Also I'm not sure if it counts as influence if I'm knowingly going through with it.

>>144461965
Is that Chiaki next to Izuru?

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Fukboi!

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>>144461921
RoD having fun
Hajime suffering
Izuru foreshadowing

>>144461965
who's right to Nanami?

>>144461858
This fucker needs to reach out to some hope.

>>144461880
Same. They kinda wasted all of the characters who were related to the DR1 cast by having them get killed instantly or not show up. Hagakure's mom was ok I guess.

>>144461921
More slice of life shit, Chisa does some good things and inspires people. Ending references either Hajime's transformation or Fedora man scouting Junko.

>>144461965
Where is Fukawa?

>>144461921
I predict that it's going to be good.

>>144461698
This is the stupidest theory I've heard for this show so far.

>>144458016
>I don't think we will get yet another Junko AI visit.
Somebody didn't play AE.

>>144461973
I'd still fuck her tbqhwyf

>>144462020
He's the traitor.

>>144459595
>Chisa
>not having a reason to do it

Son you dumb?

>>144462089
that was foreshadowing dr2's events IIRC

What time do we get new despair arc?

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What did the mangaka mean by this?

>>144462014
>black suit
>long hair
>red eyes
Looks like it

>>144462138
Did you not notice that he had two Junko AIs and only one was seen during SDR2?

>>144462089
Wasn't AE before 2 though?

>>144461893
>You don't need Makoto regaining his memories for her to avoid the spears
Mukuro was literally only saved because Makoto knew that those spears were coming.
and Mukuro only decides on a course of action at all due to what Makoto says later on when he talks about all this shit he shouldn't know.

>>144461965
>red-eyes Naegi
Oh shit