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>This is your date tonight
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Daily reminder that 7 is the best Macross and you should stop posting in these threads until watching it.
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epic retarded OP
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Did anyone realize that Mirage's Birthday was on November 2nd, and Freyja's on the 3rd. Yet no one realized it, and even Hayate dragged her along to the mall on her Birthday to find a present for Freyja's Birthday. Poor Mirage.
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First for best Jenius not those two shit we see in main series .
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>>144408690
What the fuck anon, her birthday is in February.
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Mirage will win.
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>>144408690
This make the bullying into new level.
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>>144408690
It's in february you dumb fuck
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I want Kaname to be happy.
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>>144408726
The Wiki says November 2nd. The Wiki could be wrong though. It also explains why she was acting weird when they told her to help with the suprise party.
http://macross.wikia.com/wiki/Mirage_Farina_Jenius
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>>144408690
>2月11日
February 11
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When you think about it, Delta might as well be the best looking Macross TV series.

SDF was really good when it was good, but it was awful most of the time and its worst is basically meme material. 7 was stock footage half of the time. Frontier had really ugly character designs and even during the "good" moments like Seikon Hikou animation moved like garbage.
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>>144408816
Sounds like they switched month and day which each other.
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>>144408856
>Frontier had really ugly character designs
More like shit animation,color.
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>>144408568
Too bad she's a lesbo.
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>>144408856
>Frontier had really ugly character designs
Take that back
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>>144408856
>frontier
>ugly
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WOW SHE WANT THAT GOD DICK NOW
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>>144408944
Unironically, Sheryl is the purest and most perfect heroine from the franchise.
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>>144408921
That's the best part!
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>>144408944
Sheryl looked good on the movies but she had a manface half the time in the series.
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>>144408925
>>144408944
Frontierfags have the worst taste as usual.
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>>144408816
Fucking hell, if this was real it could explain why she cried. Everyone forgot her birthday and her crush dragging her around to find a present for another girl. The new level of suffering.
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>>144408967
What that means in windfaggots terms? Letting people touch their runes is a mating call?
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>>144408856
7 didn't look that bad besides the stock footage
F had lots of QUALITY though and bad animation
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>>144408944
Even looking at the shots in the show, Mikumo looks better than Sherly depicted in official art.
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>>144408944
check' and perfection
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GOD BLESS YOU
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>>144409059
If there're no one around she would take out her clothes and push Hayate down.
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>>144409120
Do people really find that face or those awful hips attractive?
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>>144408921
>She
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I can tell the moment when mirage shed tears is when she knows that she could not be with hayate anymore nor be like frejya. She knows her own weaknesses on not being a capable pilot, no fold receptors like frejya, not being able express the emotions that she has been holding back, not being able to sing to resonate with hayate. All these things that she lacks is shown eeveywhere for the past episodes. She is envy towards hayate and frejya because the both of them is like perfect combo in her eyes. From that scene onwards, she finally realized that she had feelings for hayate despite knowing that she will definitely lose.

My dear frejya shippers, i'm just sharing my rational thoughts towards mirage's character overall and how it affect that tearing scene in the end. I have no intention of making her winner of the triangle.
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>>144409093
All action scenes in 7 look like trash save a few ones late in the series. The stock footage transformations etc in 7 actually look better. Its the rather cheap static fighter getting hit by a stream by yellow bright eggs type of fighting that 7 had the most of
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>>144409120
>posting one of Sheryl's worst pics
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>>144409159
He truly has a ugly face, indeed.
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>>144409159
>>144409238
Wrong. All of Sheryl is perfect.
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>>144408967
that scene was erotic as fuck
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>>144409203
>fanfiction.net
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>>144409120
>>144409238
Being 100% honest here, if I didnt know Sheryl I would say its a man in both pics.
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What will you say when a crying Freyja asks Mirage to take good care of Hayate, because she herself would not be able to live long enough to do so?
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>>144409308
Is this a Sheryl thread now?
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I liked Minmei more than Misa.
I liked Ranka more than Sherly.
I like Freyja more than whatshername.

What do I win?
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>>144409374
to appreciate NTR
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>>144409374
You'll never win anything.
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>>144409374

the consolation prize.
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>>144409374
Probably scorn. I won't scorn you for the last one though. I like her more too though.
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>>144409374
The bad taste award
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>>144409374
the same thing Messi won
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>>144409374
>I liked Minmei more than Misa
To be honest I thought like you too, I mean Misa did nothing except crying and suffering because she want the D.
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>>144409353
Aruran thread
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>>144408805
You don't have what it takes to make her happy.
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>>144409598
Being filled with Var dick isn't the same as being happy
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>GOD BLESS YOU
she will die in the next 15 years.
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>>144409598
Messercuck, pls.
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>>144409579
Ranka was a cutie t bh
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>>144409598
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>>144409652
One of the best things about Delta is that Frontier received another boost of popularity and Ranka got lots of new fanart for her birthday. I expect the same will happen with Sheryl.

And of course other installments did get some more fanart, 7 especially so.
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>>144409634
We already know what will happen.
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>>144409374
My admiration
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>>144409774
Windermears can't reproduce outside their race.
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>>144409579
This ship already crashed and burn.
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>>144409634
FUCK YOU
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>>144409823
I hope so.
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>>144408568
Reirei Kawaii~
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>>144409774
When will they release this song? Silly songs like this or the carrot song in Frontier are great.
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>>144409882
What's up with her creepy laugh?
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>>144409114
Exactly, and Mikumo has one swimsuit official art and it completely blows away all of Sheryl's slutty and overexposed official arts.
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>>144410041
They're all so cute
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>>144409960
UHIHIHI
>>144410041
How does her swimsuit work?
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>>144409238
Sheryl is literally a failed Mikumo 2.0

Even in her offical arts, her face looks manly and ugly, while Mikumo's face is always elegant in the animation.
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>>144410041
This image would be better without the ugly loser in the middle.
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>>144410135
Shinpi
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>>144408831
Nothing to gorigori about/10. Also what will fan reacted if we get MIA ending again?
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You already can hear a clean version in the soundtrack disc.
>Kurage Ondo
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>>144409652
Risa Ebata made me want to fuck her.
>>144410165
Please don't bullying Zents.
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>>144410198
It could be the perfect cliffhanger for us to want to go watch the movie.
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>>144410149
shit eyes
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>>144409374
>I liked Minmei more than X
How is it possible to have taste this shit.
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>shipping wars had finally ended.

Time to take my leave. Adios
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>suddenly massive shipping episode
I was hoping they would be just friends, their relationship was really nice.
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>>144410901
We will see how mirage is going to do for the next few episodes.
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>>144410041
fuck off. Sheryl is perfection incarnated.
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>>144410666
She was pretty alright in DYRL
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Freyja will be brought back to Windermere next week right?
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>>144411055
Perfect? Ugly eyelashes, ugly face, and right boob bigger than left
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>>144411055
>Perfection
Yeah, no. His face is very ugly.
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>>144410573
What a shitty piece of ranka/sherylfag. Check their ugly eyelashes before you pull shit from your ass about the Goddesses selling point.

The dusty Cinderella, and busted fairy can't compete. Mikumo's eyes are her selling point
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>>144409956
Why do you live under the rock?
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>>144410041
You understand Mikumo is an imittation of Sheryl to bring the massive Frontier fans, right?
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>>144411055
Sheryl is literally a try hard pre-mikumo 2.0 that looked grloruious because she was competing with female Guld
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>>144410041
Original > clone
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Sheryl was an alright character, but the reason she caused such a lasting impression was Ranka being so bad it made her look a million times better in comparison.
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>>144411577
Back to school with you.
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>>144411837
Nah, Sheryl is a 12/10 woman, regardless of shitty Ranka around or not.
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>>144409956
It's on the first soundtrack retard.
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>>144410376
I wish Ebata would draw eroge again.
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>>144408667
I hated Basara and Mylene, the way they acted, and how their arcs turned out. If you're gonna shitpost at least pick something worth watching.
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Sheryl a shit. She's manlier than the male main character.

Ranka's worst sin was making her look good.
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>>144412024
What eroge has she drawn?

>>144412166
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>faggots who don't love both Mikumo and Sheryl
just go to the recent battle harem thread and argue which girl would you fuck
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>>144412223
I would peg him
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Between Alto, Keith and Bogue who would make the prettiest girl?
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Greatest Love Story Ever Told
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Bogue, definitely.
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>>144412338
Bogue's sisters must be gorgeous. Three of them dead because of fucking NUNS. Fuck NUNS, seriously.
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>>144412338
>Alto
ara ara

>Keith
kuudere

>Bogue
shitty tsundere

i choose alto
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>>144412579
At least they are dying like flies. It's not enough to pay for their crimes but its better than nothing.
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Mikumo and Sheryl are best girls of their series. They should meet each other. Who would be the bigger diva?

Sheryl acts bitch, and Mikumo acts entitled. This is probably why their personalities are similar, but in different ways.

Sheryl was a poor orphan trash, who got rich after grace. Because it's "new" money she's haughty and more aggressive.

Mikumo has an elegant aura and demeanor, which indicates that she is used to things coming to her easily.
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>>144412338
Bogue. He has the prettiest hair and I like tsunderes.
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>>144411915
Actually someone did. 5/5
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>>144412702
But this is her best outfit
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>>144412223
So far only the Love Fetish series. She goes by the aliases of Sai Tamako and Ehime Mikan.
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Who wore it better?
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>>144412824
This is her best moment with the one where she run in the stairs.
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>>144412876
How long before we see most of Bogue's family blown into pieces, and Keith going from genki and moe to a cold dick?
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>>144412824
No, this one is.
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>>144413000
I give it two or three more chapters in the manga. Also, I'm sure we'll get Keith's full backstory in the anime and I will be surprised if they don't tell us how Bogue's family died since it seems to be an important piece of his character.
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>>144412985
I've never liked Kaname's or Reina's Walkure outfits. They seem so... Mediocre.

I like Mikumo's the best. Then Freyja's and then Makina's.
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Has anyone noticed the big push in Mikumo merchandise and advertisement lately? It's as if now that they accomplished their job with Freyja, it's time to move onto Mikumo.

Is there how for Mirage now?
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What are the chances Macross delta is getting a movie?
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>>144413130
>Mirage
Who?
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>>144410041

Her hips are like a deflated tire, unwholesome and infertile.
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>>144413139
I guess it depends on how it does in sales from now on. Also how well received the TV series ending is.
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>>144408568
I'll pass
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>>144413117
I feel like, if they removed those ugly sleeves on Reina's hands and legs, along with the dumb headphones, her outfit would look much better
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>>144413117
The probably designed the outfits in this order:
Freyja -> Mikumo -> Makina

>Damn, we still have two more to do. Lets just do some bs
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>>144413130
It's not like they're throwing Freyja away. Freyja is still the biggest money earner. They're simply bringing Mikumo to the front because the plot is finally bringing light to her shinpiness and you gotta get the coins.
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>>144408690
wtf I hate Hayte now
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>>144413233
The way the show keeps treating Mirage, not so good.

But there is plenty of time yet, 2 more weeks should be good enough to decide if it's worth it.
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For the last time idiots. MIRAGE'S BIRTHDAY IN FEBRUARY 11TH, NOT NOVEMBER 2ND.

Read goddammit.
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>>144413224
And the award for biggest, bullshit post goes to you. Congrats anon, you're a certified shit head.
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>>144413412

She also has a flat ass.
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>>144413117
Kaname has the best Walkure outfit though.
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As for best Walkure uniform (the blue and red ones) I like them in this order

1. Freyja
2. Makina
3. Mikumo
4. Kaname
5. Reina
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Walkure Attack is still doing strong on Oricon. At this rate it should do better or at least on par with the frontier albums.

Can't wait for Blu-ray to do good too. It's kinda sad how people compare frontier and delta sales. Anime sold a lot back then, and the industry isn't doing so hot. The fact that delta is getting close to frontier figures is amazing.

Don't underestimate the power of the two female heroines of Delta - Freyja and Mikumo will make money
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>>144413584
Mikumo
Kaname
Freyja
Makina
Reina
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>>144413584
Which blue and red ones?
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>>144413600
>At this rate it should do better or at least on par with the frontier albums.
1st frontier Album sold 186+K
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>>144413584
1. Mikumo
2. Reina
3. Freya
4. Makina
5. Kaname
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Did anyone ever upload the ost?
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>>144413650
After it's success. Which was due to the hype after the good ending, along with movie hype. Wait until Delta is finished
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>>144413600
>two female heroines of Delta - Freyja and Mikumo will make money
The 2nd heroine is supposed to be Mirage.
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>>144413646
These ones. Their standard uniforms.
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>>144413738
>The 2nd heroine is supposed to be Mirage.

Well it sure doesn't feel like it, does it?
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>>144413600
>>144413650
189,202 actually
Pic related is the track. Also, Frontier 1st album didn't have a lottery ticket.
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>>144413650
Sheryl gave them carry.
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>>144413855
1st of Album of Delta did better in the 1st week.
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>browsing youtube
>find this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss9q2OZRjag
Fuuuuck it's been so long
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>>144413650
The first Frontier album sold 72k in its first week while the first Walkure album sold 78k.

I say Delta is doing very well.
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>>144413738
Not that girl but really? I thought she had a minor role like Chuck or bridge bunnies. I'm new to Macross and didn't realize that. Mikumo just has more presence. How does she relate to the show? I feel like you can take her out and nothing would have changed. She's literally not involved in the plot
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>This entire thread
Next time, just put Macross instead of Macross delta in the title.
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>>144413782
>garterbelt
>vagina bones showing
You can tell who the two sluts are.
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Is it enough to download Walküre Attack or should I get anything else?
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>>144414044
Buy it faggot.
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>>144413855
Exactly! Delta is doing really good, especially at the pivotal point the anime industry is in. Things just aren't selling anymore. Especially with torrents, which didn't really exist for Frontier
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>>144414044
90% of /a/ bought the album. We support the industry because we don't want anime to die out. You should too, or stick to american cartoons
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>>144413996
What does delta anyway? The official title of the show is Macross Freyja.
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>>144413990
The thing is that Mirage is considered a "main character" because she's part of the triangle. Plot wise she has had no impact whatsoever as of yet.
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>>144413996
>tfw deltababby
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>>144414165
>>144413990
There is 10 episodes left. Misa in SDF got develloped later in the show. We still don't know about Lady M who is supposed to be Mirage's mother.
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>>144414165
>The official title of the show is Macross Freyja.

You mean it ends earlier than the other macross series and loses in popularity?
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>>144414236
>We still don't know about Lady M who is supposed to be Mirage's mother.

You mean you want Mirage to become relevant by riding on mommy's coattails?
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>>144413701
>[160622] TVアニメ「マクロスΔ」オリジナルサウンドトラック1 [MP3]
>[160706] TVアニメ「マクロスΔ」ワルキューレ 1stアルバム「Walküre Attack!」[MP3]

pick your poison
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>>144414147
>90% of /a/ bought the album. We support the industry because we don't want anime to die out.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH AH AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAJA AJAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HB AHB AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH AH HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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>>144414358
>>144414078
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>>144414236
Lady M will be revealed in the last episode as a pure fanservice cameo.
>Final battle
>Delta and Elysium are fighting against some giant protoculture shit as their last enemy
>They are outnumbered. It seems they are going to lose
>"Multiple defold signals detected!"
>Huge feet folds in
>Ernest: "Too you long enough, Lady M"
>We see <insert character from previous Macross> as commander of Chaos fleet
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>>144414335
you can bait better
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>>144414491
Huge fleet*

I'm sure it will be something extremely similar to the scene in the end of Frontier movies. Kawamori loves to re-use the same stuff.
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>>144414491
Lady M is lady kawaMori
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>>144414351
giant Ranka was best Macross moment
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>>144413650
186k after MONTHS bro.
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>>144414094
>Things just aren't selling anymore
Shut up with this bullshit, things are selling better these days than ever.

There are 4 times the amount of top selling series than there were before 2000, and only 1/3 of those are between 2000 and 2007. There's more flops because the volume of late night shows is huge but there are an insane amount of best selling series.
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>>144413396
>Mirage
Nah it'll depend on Freyja and Mikumo. Besides the episode actually make Nips like Mirage for once.
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>>144413855
As if people are going to buy the 1st album of Walkure for a lottery ticket when there are only 200 available slots for the raffle ticket.
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Psycho eyes.
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>>144409374
Pain and sorrow as it should be for having shit taste.
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>>144414975
Mirage is being mistreated, as many other chars in favor of Freyja. that's something they have to address or face consequences.
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>>144408967
That whole expression says
>Hayate, let us bang into each other and confirm our uncovered love, our super big bang will breathe life into a new genesis
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>>144415303
>Mirage is being mistreated, as many other chars in favor of Freyja. that's something they have to address or face consequences.
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if protoculture is ancient aliens, how come they have elf ears and how come we don't?
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>>144415303
Freyja is becoming cancer, they truly have to improve the pacing and distribution.

Waiting until the movies like they did to try in Frontier to fix Ranka it's one of the worst outcomes.
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Frontier was decided in episode 18, right?
When Alto was running under the rain to find Sheryl.

Is this going to be 25 episodes as well? I keep reading from 24 to 30.
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>>144415954
26
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>>144415954
It's gonna end on a cliffhanger with an announcement for a second season.
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>>144415303
>they're paying more attention to the MC than the side characters!
>this is an outrage
Yeah, no. The writing's fine. The only problem with Mirage is her lack of non-romance growth, the sooner she loses the triangle and moves on the better.
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>>144416135
Have they ever done that before?

Delta's big plot looks kind of simpleton, we only care about it because of Mikumo.
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>>144416135
Satelight already has announced two seasons of Symphogear and another Kawamori's project. There won't be second season of Delta.
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>>144416191
If you can't even hint the problems with the pacing and focus distribution there is no point in explaining them to you.
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>>144415303
How many times have you posted? Because I swear it's mostly you doing this.
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>>144414147
Not him but I'm in the third world now and food has an higher priority over chinese cartoons anon.
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>>144409137
With her innate Windermere strength, even if people were around, she would have rape Hayate then and there, and no one could stop her.
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>>144416252
Kek he can't even come up with an argument.

The pacing isn't perfect but progress happens every episode. The side characters are just that. The screen time rightfully goes into developing the MCs.
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>>144415493
Wooww anon. Tone down the lewd a bit will ya? You're going to blow your one shot at love all over the place.
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Who
>Gori Gori
here?
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Favorite Walkure character designs from top to bottom?

1. Mikumo
2. Freyja
3. Makina
4. Kaname
5. Reina
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Is Hayate gonna stop teasing her about her rune now that he's sexually aware of it? ;_;

Or is he gonna start masturbating to it? Fantasize about stroking it, licking it, taking it in his mouth, sucking on it while listening to her lewd moans?
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>>144416465
Rune Pika Beaaaaam!
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>>144416503
Jesus christ anon. This is Macross not Boku No Pico.
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I'm sorry but did Mirage already lose?
etc.

No seriously, this is just the first time Hayate has seen Freyja as a possible romantic partner, it's not like he's fallen in love. At least we don't have the confirmation yet.
Hopefully she dies of cancer or something by the end and make space for best girl.
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>>144416465
Gross middle aged washed up cake.
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>>144416474
Mikumo
Freyja
Reina but her costume's not that good
Kaname
power gap
Makina please lose the fucking pigtails and bunny hairband holy shit
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>>144416465
HOINA!
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>>144416252
>problems with focus distribution
I don't see any. We have 2 main characters: Hayate and Freyja and they get majority of focus. Then we have shitton of secondary characters and obviously they can't get the same amount of screen time as our two main characters. If you want to complain about Delta because it has too many secondary characters than it's just your shitty opinion. Delta still handles its side characters better than for example Frontier. We got Messer x Kaname story, we have established and well developed personality for Keith, we learn a little bit more about Mikumo's mysterious personality with every episode. Makina and Reina are more than just /u/ bait too. Also we are probably going to have Arad's NUNS backstory and probably some Bogue drama. Yes, there are still some characters who didn't get much development like Chuck, chinese twins, Ernest, bridge bunnies and Mirage. But who cares about them?
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>>144416567
It's not like he just opened to the possibility of liking her though. He always paid way too much attention to her and fagged hardcore about her songs. And this ep he didn't just blush but stared fondly for a long time and had a cliche snowball fight and sighed her name in wonder at the end. That's more than just a flag.
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>>144416792
Yeah, this is the possible turning point.
Possible, mind you.
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>>144416559
My dick needs runesex doujins anon. Hayate making her cum from her rune. Fingering her casually in public while she tries to control herself. Their resonance making them feel each other's orgasms.
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>>144408704
my nigga
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>>144416191
This. Freyja is the lead character and Mirage is there because the sponsors wanted a pseudo triangle.
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Remember when AMV's were a thing? I found this really cute one of HayaFre that's very fitting to their relationship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgUXJ03AnmY
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Post ITT only if your waifu is a virgin maiden pure as white snow.
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>>144417133
>>144416191
Oh boy how much will it hurt when Hayate and Mirage will end up together, I can't even imagine.
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>>144408690
This is seriously fucked up. And nobody cared about Mikumo's birthday either while Freyja gets special treatment from everyone.
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>>144417492
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>>144417465
Were you trying to make a new thread?
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>>144408690
>Did anyone realize that Mirage's Birthday was on November 2nd, and Freyja's on the 3rd. Yet no one realized it, and even Hayate dragged her along to the mall on her Birthday to find a present for Freyja's Birthday. Poor Mirage.

Mirage's birthday is February 11th, not November 2nd.

Just because of this post now there's a bunch of idiots on this thread who won't shut up about MUH POOR MIRAGE FUCK U HAYATE
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>>144417547
Did you read the thread?
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>>144417547
See >>144408726 >>144408879 >>144413400
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>>144417492
Eh not really. It'll be an asspull after he ignored her and Freyjafagged this ard for this long though.
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>>144418104
>blogposter
>frogposter
>animes

Do us all a favor and end it now.
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>>144418104
It's never too late to start going outside and meet new people, dumb frogposter.
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>>144418104
>>tfw 25 and never been in love

Don't worry, you're not missing out on much. Being in love sucks. Well, only when your relationship goes downhill. Hang in there buddy.

Go watch some hentai
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Hayate will found something about his father in the next episode? What's wrong with him in the preview of the next episode?
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>>144418104
Man that sucks, you should kill yourself
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>>144419117
Either he finds out about his father or something happens to Freyja.
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>>144419117
Probably found out his dad nuked the windies.
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>>144419117
Probably found out about the windies.

Next ep is "scattering onstage" right? Maybe we'll finally get some Shinpi plot. We'll have Walkure testing the ruins to see if they can also use them, just like Mikumo suggested.
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>>144418104
>tfw i acted just like mirage on high school when i fell in love
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>>144419117
He finds out that Mirage has to win his bowl because Freyja beat Mirage too early and he's going to be stuck with a girl he isn't in love with because memes.
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>>144419719
>He finds out that Mirage has to win his bowl because Freyja beat Mirage too early and he's going to be stuck with a girl he isn't in love with because memes.

kek, now i understand his expression of despair
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Wright nuking the Windies practically confirms HayaFre end. It's the obstacle they have to overcome now that romance has started, and goes with the theme of understanding overcoming war bla bla bla.
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>>144419907
MAX AND MILIA.
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music in Frontier > music in Delta

aside from that and the cancer-tier shitty noise-filled OP1, I have no real significant complaints about Delta so far

>>144418104
you're only 5 years out from joining the wizard's club; don't worry, we have beer and chili fries!
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>>144419922
>tfw Hayate and Freyja were the Max and Milia all along, just like Mirage implied
Topnotch trolling
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Mirage cucked by her own grandparents starting the two species at war becoming a couple and leading to an understanding end
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>>144419986
I like Delta's music but I want songs with more impact and passion.
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I want to protect Mirage smile
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>not married by 12~ you are considered a cake
>meaning 6-8 years old is probably the norm

Windermere is basically a pedophile paradise.
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>>144420504
My guess is they get married around 11-13 ish and then start reproducing around 15-16
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>>144419878
> not wanting to bang sexy space elf in her sexy space suit
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>>144421019
it's because she doesnt have that lewd rune that lights up pink and sets the atmosphere like japanese love hotels with their lighting do
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>>144408568
How can Mirage even compete?
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>>144421150
Freyja throwing up the internationally known sign that her Hoina is ready
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>>144420421
GOOD LUCK WITH THAT

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>144421212
Don't stare at it!
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>>144419719
>he's going to be stuck with a girl he isn't in love with because memes

Looks like Minmeifags are still butthurt 30 years later
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So now that Hayate has upped his Freyjafagness levels to over 9000, will we get him taking notice of Freyja's Walkure costumes being slightly revealing?
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>>144421281
who are we kidding? the flirting is on bro. you know Freyja's gonna be flaunting that rune at Hayate every single chance she gets
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>>144416335
Inverse rape... I WANNA SE THAT SHIT.
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>>144421404
Doujins when?

>>144421375
I can't wait. The hype is real.
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>>144421212
>Freyja throwing up

This is my fetish.
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>>144421442
>Oh im sorry Hayate let me lean over you to reach that thing over there
>Oh sorry, I accidentally brushed my rune against your cheeks
>Does that GoriGori your HonNi, Hayate?
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Freyja saying how she only has half of her life left saddened me immensely.
Dying so young must be the worst fucking thing. No wonder all the Windermereans went full Zeon.
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>>144420553
Why do they have a need to marry sooner than starting the reproduction (making a family)? It doesn't really make sense, unless they want to ensure that every person has a partner ready to go when they are in age.
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>>144421609
I see it more as them having a set partner and then reproducing a bit later on. You can't really expect a 11-12 year old to have a child and care for it. Seems a bit more viable to do that when they're around 15-16.
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>>144408568
best girl everyone else can fuck off
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>>144408921
>skinship with a close friend
>must be a lesbo
stop it
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>>144416263
Once
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>>144417492
I don't think sponsors can decide that. Or they shouldn't at least.
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>>144416263
>>144416740
He's isn't in the wrong you know, don't make bullshit with a famous envelope and expect to break records in preorders and shit. Making memes and fanarts isn't the same as making a good product that should sell for years to come.
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been Mirage is suffering
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where is the preorder
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>>144420227
That's because they aren't pushing/utilizing JUNNA's vocals to it's limit. Delta needs some really good composers and it's lit
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>>144422029
His complaints are retarded. Just because Mirage is the loser in the triangle and a supporting character doesn't mean bad writing. She serves her purpose and is sympathetic while doing so, however the story is more focused on other things like the two MCs, resonance, war and a protoculture mystery, and isn't half-bad at it.
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>>144416474
1. Freyja
2. Kaname
3. Reina
4. Mikumo
5. Makina

I don't dislike any of them though. I just like them in that order. Also, Reina's Walkure costume sucks.
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>>144422471
Yeah, I need someone to use her well like Yoko Kanno did to May'n.
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This is the green dress that Freyja is wearing in the preview for the next episode. As you can see, I'm excited for a few good reasons.
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>>144416474
1. Mikumo
2. Reina
3. Freyja
4. Makina
5. Kaname

I like all of Walkure. Makina and especially Kaname are just really generic
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>>144421303
>dat damage control
Miragefags are so desperate.
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>>144422638
I'm excited too, and even though Mikumo is my favorite idk how I feel about the blue, or maybe it's her hairstyle for that costume that throws it off?

Reina's is probably going to be my favorite design for this one
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>>144422638
>garterbelt
L E W D
E
W
D
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>>144422782
>Mirage
Can we stop mentioning this name? Can we just literally treat it like an actual Mirage until she "gets good"

Whenever someone says its name, lets just ignore it. Starting with this post
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>>144408568
Reirei~
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>>144408568
She has the cutest voice by far. Her part in the new ED is unbelievably adorable.
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>>144422516
Bad writing is more than that, it's losing sight of a big scheme of a story to keep it all centered about a single character, where Mirage entire arc gets forgotten she basically has done nothing since the start, Mikumo has been reduced to 4 or 5 lines per episode only relying in shinpiness and the occasional nude she's not getting explored, and Hayate a boy without any reason to pilot and his no-kill attitude isn't even raising question among seasoned soldiers.

Beginning with the interview where Kamamori said he doesn't want to add relationships of any kind and focus in songs and battle, he should grow some balls and do what the feels inspired to do instead of cooking up poor efforts to please the sponsors.
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Do we even know Kumo's birthday?
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>>144422975
i don't think even she knows
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>>144422804
>Reina's is probably going to be my favorite design for this one

I got your back, senpai. Have this bad quality preview of Reina's outfit to help you get through the week until we get better quality closeups next ep.
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West coast
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>>144422926
>B'aww the story is centered on the MC
Are you for real? That's the point of having an MC. Anyway she's caught in the i middle of the war and other characters still have screen time and their own subplots. Did you miss all the Windermere scenes? Hayate's subplot? Mikumo's? Even Kaname and Arad have shit and they're only bit players.

>Mirage entire arc gets forgotten she basically has done nothing since the start
Supporting character, not a priority. However she'll get development in the future because there's a clear set-up for it. More of her family issues were still explored this episode.

>Mikumo has been reduced to 4 or 5 lines per episode only relying in shinpiness and the occasional nude she's not getting explored
Mikumo thinks up their counterattack strategy and her shinpiness is being revealed bit by bit every episode instead of laying it all out because that's the point of being shinpi.

>Hayate a boy without any reason to pilot and his no-kill attitude isn't even raising question among seasoned soldiers
He finds out he loves it and it feels good. He was told off by Messer for it and his attitude has changed, he shot to kill Keith.

It's not the writer's fault you aren't paying attention.
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>>144423324
You are sucking up Delta's dick too hard, it's a very flawed story.
Think we only had 2 filler episodes? Messer entire subarc of 3 episodes was filler too.
Mikhail's death in Frontier had actual impact for example, Messer died and nobody cares about him anymore among the fans or in universe.
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>>144423324
I've noticed that nobody had brought up this "bad writing, Freyja is cancer! everyone else is getting shafted because of her" until this episode which coincidentally is the episode where we got shipping development in Freyja's favor.

There was the whole "Mirage is underdeveloped" talk but it got bad after this ep.

I'm not saying this to be a bitch and I'm not taking any sides, it's just a simple observation.
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>>144423465
Kawamori said he wanted to kill Mikhail in episode 10? He had something going on with his sister iirc but it was forgotten.
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>>144423564
It's been making people sick from previous weeks but you check every new episode in case things get better and they don't.

Anyone complaining 2 months ago had no real reasons to do so,
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>>144423465
>Think we only had 2 filler episodes? Messer entire subarc of 3 episodes was filler too.
>Mikhail's death in Frontier had actual impact for example, Messer died and nobody cares about him anymore among the fans or in universe.

You gotta be kidding me. How the hell did you arrive at the conclusion that Messer's arc was a filler. It fucking wasn't. Messer's VAR problems and death served as character development for Hayate. It made him realize the implications of war and death. Messer's death was what prompted Hayate to become a better pilot and take things more seriously.
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>>144423465
Nice argument. I never said it was a great story, simply that your complaints are wrong and cited examples that proved them to be so. It's decent enough.

>Messer died and nobody cares about him anymore among the fans
From what I see that's wrong but I have no time to recheck today.
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>>144423146
I'd be crying too if I lived on the west coast.
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>>144423465
>it's a very flawed story
>makes terrible points to back that up
I agree that that story is fairly average, but you're doing a pretty shit job of arguing that stance.
>>
>Hijacking a show is bad!
>BUT IT'S OKAY WHEN SHERYL DOES IT
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>>144423465
Why did you ignore all the points he made and then go on to make more assertions? That's not how you win arguments
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>>144423749
It literally is.
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>>144423679
No, I know people had voiced a bit of concern. But after this ep everyone was screaming left and right about character's getting shafted when this episode really didn't have characters getting fucked over in screen time (Mirage). I'm just saying that there was a lot of backlash as soon as this episode came out in Freyja's favor and now people are going SHITTY WRITING HERE, SHITTY WRITING THERE.

But like I said, it's just a simple observation. We've still got 10 more episodes to go so I'm sure we'll get a bit more fleshing out of some characters.
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Anyone else feel like this show is a mile wide and an inch deep?
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>>144422638
>Kawamori
>green
Oh boy here we go
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>>144423863
Sounds like your mom.
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>>144423465
>Messer died and nobody cares about him anymore among the fans or in universe.
That's a load of bullshit. Always speak for yourself and never generalize. Messers death had an impact on many fans, which increased his fan art.

Messer was never intended to even be a significant character, just a character whose death would develop other characters.

Through his death Hayate matured, and Kaname grew as a person. So your argument is invalid.

I do agree however that Delta's writing is flawed, depending on the persons ability to comprehend. However I think it's main flaw is that it's limited with 26 episodes. Everything isn't happening in one go with an entire episode, rather everything is broken down into small hints. It all depends on the individuals ability to pay attention to detail.

I'll tell you this. Not a single dialogue in Delta is trivial. What you disregard as unneeded, is actually really impactful. From minor things like the bridge bunnies mentioning Arad and Kaname earlier in the episodes, to Roid changing his glasses and constantly focusing on Mikumo. Every bit of detail is essential
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>>144423749
Macross Sheryl
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>>144423465
>Mikhail's death in Frontier had actual impact
Mostly because Klan Klan ended up alone as a result
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>>144423749
Miragefags confirmed Rankafags
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>>144423687
Except Hayate never got better, we didn't see him making any special training, and at no actual cost he magically shot-down Keith, a guy who can eliminate a whole squadron single-hand, with "magic".

I guess Hayate can take down 2 NUNS squadrons on his own now.
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So Freyja sucks up more camera than Ranka but without getting nearly as much hate for it.

Kawamori is doing something right.
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>>144423749
Sheryl is a miracle she follows no rules
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>>144423571
He wanted to kill off Mikhail much earlier if I recall correctly.
Then again he also regretted killing Jin from Evol so early.
I think that translates to Kawamori wanting to get the dramatic death of family out as quickly as possible so it doesn't interfere with the dramatic development of the last stretch of the story. Jin dying early on the other hand was meaningless since only Yunoha interacted with him.
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>>144423863
It was important to develop that sense of scale and get the worldbuilding going with that emphasis on the different races/planets. Honestly I'd like more episodes like that cat one where they go fuck with different races for whatever reason. It looks like they're going to try shift to hammering the characters now, though having said that everyone has had some slow burning development this whole time.
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>>144423999
Freyja is Ranka 2.0
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>>144424040
Perhaps his piloting skills are still lacking a bit but you cannot deny that Messer's arc fueled Hayate to mature and take things more seriously.

As for his skills, it's been hinted at by the VA's that he'll be unable to use Freyja's power up therefore making him "useless". I'm sure that'll be the perfect opportunity for him to train harder and see more development in the skills area.
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>>144423878
Maybe I'm the only who thinks it, but the last episode of Delta it's like a big goodbye. A lot of good things are happening for Freyja. And that isn't good at all. Something really bad is gonna happen sooner than later.
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>>144423324
>Supporting character
Tell that to staff and demote her, still didn't demoted? so she's not supporting character, thanks.
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>>144424268
Still man friend? ;^)
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>>144408568
I find it slightly disturbing how neither Chuck or the other fishbros seem to give a single fuck about how their sister is missing, probably dead. Just laughing and partying who gives a shit
>>
MIRAGE A SHIT
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>>144423324
Tell me about Mikumo, how she can't take the spotlight for 5 minutes without switching to Freyja immediately. You don't seem to get how many of us are here for Mikumo and yet she's never allowed to shine until her eventual sacrifice at the last battle
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>>144424297
Nice English. Mirage isn't being pushed as an MC outside the story either.
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>>144424415
Denial. They think she's fine except for eating Var apples.
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>>144424431
Don't put this stupid page in magazine than.
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>>144424415
That's Delta in a nutshell, the land where only Freyja's stuff matters.
The sister even had a name? I feel like they said it once.
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Mirage is Zessica 2.0
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>that lewd top
I want to marry a side character
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>>144424502
Mikumo takes up more magazines than her.
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>>144423564
Freyja actually isn't cancer and I think the shipping stuff has gone to peoples head. It makes them not see the larger picture, and avoid facts. While people are claiming that Mirage is underdeveloped, she really isn't. She just develops slowly. This technique is actually a smart way to write her, and contrasts Freyja who develops quickly.

The individual development of Freyja and Mirage is also beautifully written too. Mirage is a zent who has a longer life-span than humans, while Freyja is a windie who has a shorter life span than humans. Freyja has to develop quickly, while Mirage doesn't. I genuinly don't think the triangle will end up with anyone being in a relationship though.

Freyja, has the spotlight and shining glory, because her character needs it, her fans need it, the need her happy face because she has a bittersweet tragic ending coming up. The signs are all there.

Mirage needs to be developed at this slow past, and be hated now so that when she develops, the audience can actually feel and notice how much she has grown and changed at the end of the series.

This is also why Mikumo is pushed as the center of the triangle, or breaker of the triangle. Mikumo, who is the plot of Delta will cause something to occur, and either her and Freyja or just Freyja will have to transcend time and space and become a significant figure in the Macross universe.

Nobody wins in this triangle. Mikumo and Freyja will transcend, Mirage will learn to become herself and not rely on anybody love, and Hayate will learn to respect Freyja's choice and fly the skies like he loves.

You guys might not like the idea now, but the way it will be done will have you guys feeling good. It will create a feel good feeling, like that guy stated. If any of you have seen Madoka or Evangelion, you guys will understand that once it ends that way, you won't want it to end no other way.

Those triangles breaking in Mikumo's hair on first official art is there for a reason.
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Can someone tell me since when we Miragefags want her win the triangle over person development?
It's some one shitposter keep doing this since first episode, and some of you count him as whole Miragefags? the fuck?
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>people actually thought the Windies nuked themselves
Literally how the fuck did anyone ever think that, when these faggots are wind and nature obsessed hippies?
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>>144424545
Is this pasta?
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>>144424502
>people lie to sell its product
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>>144424543
No, that page is from the newest magazine.
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Who is worst Onii-chan, and why is it Keith?
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>>144424611
Yup, that's why i have rights to complain.
I won't ask for change anymore(since they should already done the last episode writing), but doesn't mean i can't say something i always want to say.
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>>144424564
he is a vocal shitposter
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>>144424545
They are spinning the story in a way where Mirage's victory in the love race is the only acceptable answer, because the only thing worse would be Mirage losing. She has not much else in her life after all.

All because they forgot to give the character and many others too a life of her own.

Sucks, right?
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>>144424427
For now enjoy her beauty and feel sad about her lack of birthday parties while feeling happy she's finally joining their get-togethers instead of standing naked on rooftops.

Unless you liked that. I can't blame you, naked Mikumo is a miracle of the universe.
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>>144408568
>>144424722
It feels good when anons save my caps
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>>144424564
>we

Fuck off.
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>>144424677
Kawamori does not care and drinks your tears
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THERE ARE STILL 10 EPISODES LEFT
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>>144408568
I need a Delta wallpaper real bad. Any anon want to spoonfeed something they like?
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>>144424545
Honestly, my biggest and only concern is that the Mikumo story line isn't a big flop. We have been literally been waiting for this shit patiently, so when it out, it better be fucking good. Freyja is suppose to do something big during episode 22, so I hope she doesn't steal the show once again. Which makes me wonder if this kumo thing will happen before or after episode 22? Will they really save Mikumo for the Delta Movies?
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>>144424721
Th only thing worse than losing is a pity win.
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>>144424415
To be fair, she is a Fish Woman. Ergo, she survived, probably. So, she must be just fine.
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Why are people outside of this site such massive NUNSfags anyway?
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>>144424427
That birthday flag was a blatant setup for some tragic outcast who never quite gels with people and will forever remain misunderstood up until her eventual sacrifice.
>I never fit in with everyone, so no one will miss me
Prepare yourselves.
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>>144424415
They can't do anything about her since she's either stuck in Ragna which is under enemy control, or dead, and he sure as shit doesn't want to believe the latter is true, or make his siblings think it
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>>144424865
>outside of this site
fuck the windniggers, my man
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>>144424837
They will give reason for her victory, and with some luck they won't feel forced.
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>>144424721
Why does a character need someone else to have something in her life? Is that really what love is? In order to be happy she has to get dick?

Mirage needs to find, and lover herself before she gets involved with anyone else.
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>>144424943
NUNSfag pls go.
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>>144411622

I like to think that because Sheryl was at her peak like 10-12 years before Delta, She would've definitely been known by Mikumo (unless she really is a magical merbeing of the protoculture) and maybe Mikumo saw her as an inspiration/idol. Or any of the walkure girls for that matter (except Freyja. She's too young).

Also

Sheryl/Ranka cameo when?

and is Sheryl is Lady M?
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>>144424795
I'm not crying though, it just give me a message that other than episode 16's writer, all other writers writing skill is really bad and i should bad list them.
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>>144424990
Too late for that after all Hayate's Freyjafagging.
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>>144423564
>I've noticed that nobody had brought up this "bad writing, Freyja is cancer! everyone else is getting shafted because of her" until this episode which coincidentally is the episode where we got shipping development in Freyja's favor.

That's not actually true, this line of argument has been going on for weeks. I first noticed it in episode 13.
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>>144425021
*black list.
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>>144424427
That's why i'm annoyed at times. Mikumo gets shown for a couple minutes, and Freyja steals the show again. It's kinda getting too much now. I hope it ended with this episode.
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>>144425054
That's the "with some luck" part.
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>>144425057
From episode 9 here.

Kawamori or one of his associates has a sickness for writing this type of un-compelling developments.
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So Macross Delta is a story about a person winning everything, getting love by everyone and a other person that lose everything, never able to get good, no one hugs her even she's sad.

Well actually it's a pretty good main theme, make you realize how real life works, i think i will pre-order the BD volume that include episode 13 and this episode.
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>>144425021
Maybe you should just stop watching?
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>>144425067
In fairness Mikumo was acting pretty haughty. She shows up late without a present and makes everyone stop doing what they're doing, starts singing the birthday song just because muh top idoru and everyone follows me. She even has to come up with some tsundere shit for why she'd even show up. I get the feeling that she's compensating for a lot of insecurities/ social ineptness with her bravado.
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>>144425173
Watching it's free. Getting valks, BDs, and figures is a different beast.
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>>144425168
Vapid genki who gets all the love and attention because they're loud while the quieter introvert who might actually be cool if you talked to them is a pretty relatable theme for us autists.
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>>144425057
>>144425067
Freyja and Hayate are just the MCs. I don't understand why people are complaining because they're acting like Mikumo/Mirage ARE the MCs too when they aren't, they're just supporting characters. Important, but still support.

It's a different thing if they're saying "so-and-so should be the MC" though. That I understand. But Delta just isn't that story, stop expecting it to be.
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>>144425173
>>144425257
The hopes of things getting better are still there every sunday.

They are just getting smaller with each iteration.
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>>144425257
Because they still didn't demoted Mirage when they already demoted Mikumo.
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>>144425168
I'm guessing you're actually Japanese and want to get your posts translated on one of those matome sites.
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>>144425320
what's this demoted shit, ESL-kun?
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マクロスフレイアの被害者

・メッサー 有能だと思った?残念フレイアちゃんの方がすごいって見せるための踏み台だよ!
・ジーナス家 ジーナスなんてもう古い!時代はフレイアちゃんですよ!歴代ファン?そんなのどうでもいいんです!
・ミラージュ メインポスター見て三角関係やると思った?残念出番なんかありません!だってフレイアちゃんは一番人気だからね!
・チャック妹 まだフレイアちゃんチャイナ服着せてないな!そうだ!こいつ殺してフレイアちゃんに看板娘やらせよう!
・美雲 シェリルポジみたいな感じにしてF層からファン釣ろう!でもフレイアより目立つと困るからミステリアスキャラにして出番はほぼ無くそう!
・カナメ 想いがこもった歌に意味ありません!フレイアちゃんのほうが才能ありますからね!
・ハヤテ こいつのキャラ空っぽにしてフレイアの力でパワーアップさせよう!フレイアちゃんなんてすごいんだ!
・フレイア ぼくのかんがえたさいきょうのしゅじんこう!みんなからだいにんきなんだ!これからもかたりつがれるでんせつのきゃらなんだよ!


Well even Japan is calling this show "Macross Freyja" and listing how "great" she is.
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>>144425168
>>144425232
A quite realistic anime
sasuga, Kawamori
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>>144425384
But are they annoyed or happy about it?
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>>144425364
If i'm Japanese i already go Satelight's HQ to thanks them.
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>>144425168
>no one hugs her even she's sad

I will never hug Mirage

why even live?
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>>144425384
Yeah, how about keeping that shit contained back in 2ch.
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What if I hate both NUNS and windniggers?
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>>144425423
From what i see, they're mocking the staffs(mainly writer i guess).
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>>144425519
Hate the Zents too.
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>>144425519
You have to choose one side.
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>>144425384
So much for just "one /a/ shitposter"

The thing I don't get is:
- they did it with Ranka, it blew in their faces.
- they did it with Mikono, it blew in their faces.
- hey, let's do it with Freyja now...

Really, what the fuck?
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>>144425502
This. Who cares? 4chan represents all the universe and the consensus here is that Freyja is a miracle of the universe.
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>>144425609
They are gonna keep changing the formula a little bit each time until it succeeds before moving to something else.
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You people are acting like suddenly everyone and their mothers hate Freyja. The voice of a few angry people does not represent the whole fanbase. Freyja is still the fan favorite but we'll just wait till the next polls come out and see.
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>>144425725
Except those same opinions have been expressed here time and again. You do not represent all of 4chan.
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>>144425597
How could you possibly like the windniggers? They're just a bunch of overzealous retards who are blatantly going to overstep and fuck themselves. Pretty sure every windfag is just a homo who likes shotas, handsome men and undertones of BL.
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>>144425609
A few angry people is not representative of the whole fanbase. Also you cannot compare Mikono and Ranka to Freyja. They are two completely different characters with different vibes.

Stop projecting your dislike of a character onto the whole fanbase. The general public is pro-freyja and that's not changing any time soon.
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>>144425609
To be objectively honest, it's one shitposter who is probably Japanese and parroting stuff from the Macross Delta anti-threads from 2ch.
Also those complaints he posted really sound more like the complaints that angry women would make. There are problems with Delta, but a lot of those bits he copied and pasted are nonsensical.
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>>144425725
I honestly don't get how you could like freyja. She's the definition of an empty-headed genki retard with absolutely nothing going on in her head besides lusting after cock.
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>>144425833
>There are problems with Delta
Take your blasphemy elsewhere, scum
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>>144425749
>>144425833
Victory at the expense of the innocent is no victory at all
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Personally, i think one mistake is they made is they didn't bring episode 16's writer earlier, since she was Idol M@ster 2011's series composition+main writer, she know how to write a character development better than all other Macross Delta writers, if they bring her earlier, not just Freyja and Mirage, i'm sure Hayate, Mikumo and many other character would benefit from her writing.
I mean, why after this episode aired, many people in here or Japan feels sad about Mirage is because her writing right? also that Hayate&Freyja relationship development is great too.

But still there are 10/11 episodes left, i hope they will let her write few more episodes.
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>>144425759
Haters do not represent all of 4chan.
Freyjasupporters don't either.

But you know what's representative? Japanese magazine and merch polls. And those have Freyja as the most successful character of Delta. If you don't like her, that's fine. But don't talk like everyone is sick of her.
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>>144425204
I think you misinterpreted that scene. Mikumo, while flawless on stage and takes her idol career seriously, off-stage her actual personality is different. She still holds unto that alpha, and elegant persona she has, however it's clear that she is very anti-social.

Mikumo's only intrest is singing, and she doesn't care for socialization. Mikumo appearing at Freyja's birthday was a big deal, especially the other members of Walkure because it mean't Mikumo cared enough about Freyja birthday to show up.

She sang happy birthday, because her passion is singing and that's the only way she knows how to properly get her emotions across. Any emotional dialogue by Mikumo comes from her singing (another example is Messer's funeral).

Mikumo is just an introvert, I do agree that it was very tsun of her to give that reason to coming to Freyja's party when it's clear she cares. However those lines by her are very important in her backstory, which is probably why they added that.
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>>144425257
Mikumo is the third main character of Delta though. And you're forgetting she is the plot
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>>144425956
I don't really get the gripes with the lack of character development. Pretty much everyone has been slowly progressing over the course of the show. Just because there hasn't been a THIS IS THE EPISODE WHERE X CHANGES A LOT for many people doesn't mean it's not going on.
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>>144425907
The thing with episode 16 is that they really chose the worst way to deliver.
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>>144425956
16 is one of the best by Delta standards really.
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>>144426021
Which is being revealed slow, episode by episode. You can't just expect the staff to go "OK here! Laying it all out for you in the course of 20 minutes!"

Mikumo's past and plot is shrouded in mystery so it'll come slowly but surely.
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>>144425320
You're so fucking petty with the Mikumo being demoted bs. Apart from the main triangle, the supporting cast will always fluctuate depending on the amount of lines they had during that episode.

You're dumb if you haven't noticed that. If you do the average of who tops the highest the most of secondary characters i'm pretty sure kumo wins or comes a solid second
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>>144426022
Because other than Freyja and Hayate, they're lack of character development, people bring Mirage to the front is because she is the worst one, but others development also not good, episode 16 is the better one.
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>>144425384
What are they saying about shinpi and reina?
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>they think Freyja is going to win
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>>144426022
It's the same guy posting again and again who likes to reiterate the same thing over and over in broken English. I think I'm going to stop posting here until I pick up this month's chapter of Macross E and scan the interviews for that other magazine.
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>>144426124
After episode 9, Mikumo never back to no.1 of second list again.
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>>144426021
She is part of the plot, and an important one but she's not the MC, and the nature of her existence requires answers to be withheld until near the end. You don't spoil the mystery early, instead you lay out hints as time goes by.
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>>144426166
>It's the same guy posting again and again
sure it is, and he changes his IP too
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>>144425993
All good points. I actually completely agree with your interpretation of her personality, and this scene was actually one of the few where I thought she was acting straight up egoistic, probably because I got a bit falseflagged by her conversation with Kaname. I guess they just needed a reason for her to actually say that she'd never had her birthday celebrated, and that's how they decided to do it even if it was slightly out of character.
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>>144426166
4chan is own by ESL guy now, welcome to ESL board.
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>>144426164
What reasons had Alto to choose Sheryl back in Frontier ep.15? Honest now.
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>>144426114
Honestly it probably won't be revealed at the end of the series. What they will do it have her about to say something at the last few second, and then cut.

What will most likely happen is 2 Macross Delta Movies, which shorten and summarize the series with better graphics, new music etc. Then a third movie, Mikumo protoculture centered
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>>144426284
tits and ass.
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At what episode did Frontier's popularity explode? It was late into the series, I remember.
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>>144425790
Why I would support the NUNS, anyway? Those tyrans ruined the galaxy with capitalism and their universalisation ideas. Windermere was a confy place to live until the UN and their attempt of colonization destroyed the culture and the economy of that place.

The windermerians have the right to use their resources in order to preserve the life in their side of the galaxy. They're trying to protect their legacy because they know that the earthlings already tried to nuke the whole place.
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>>144426284
He was still trapped in RAAAANNNKKAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!! mode by 15.
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Hayate is so happy about making Freyja happy, even before the blushing started. They're so cute.
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>>144425958
>But don't talk like everyone is sick of her.

It's clearly not everyone, there is a significant minority who is sick of her.
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>>144426504
The most popular things always get backlash.
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>>144426504
And with good reasons.
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Freyja will win because shes only got more 15 years to live. It would be way too sad otherwise. They're not gonna bullshit their way through life expectancy, thats not gonna change.
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>>144408667
The only good thing about M7 is how the gigil arch ended up.
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>>144426624
Mikumo will liberates Windemere from their curse/fate thingy.
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>>144426624
Win whatever she want, just give me Mirage's development, then even Mirage died in ending, i'm still fine with it.
Not complaining, i know there are 10(or 11? anyone know it's 26 or 27 episode show?) more episodes to go, i will wait and see.
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>>144426690
Only 24 episodes.
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>>144426725
I believe it will be at least 25 like Macross F.
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>>144426248
Mikumo's character has actually been really unique, especially after the episode where Freyja finally had her resolve.

It's clear the writers are having a slight hard time with how to characterize her. They have to uphold the shinpi/entitled/elegant persona, while showing that she is someone who cares deep down.

She can't be too love-dovey, as it will clash with her core persona. She can't be too nice, as it will be out of character, and if they make her too harsh fans will dislike her.

That's the main issue they are trying to fix with these recent episode. The first few episodes made people dislike her because she came across as haughty, and some people still hold that against her, even though she has disproved that. So basically Mikumo has a lot of clashing personalities. She is someone who has a passion for singing, and enjoys being apart of Walkure. She accepts Chaos as her home, and adores them as her comrades. However she is an introvert, anti-social, with an entitled hime like confident persona, who is willing to jump into the battlefield and loves action.

A very hard to write set of personality traits, added with the fact that she is a secondary character, and she's shinpi so they can't go too much into it or everything is ruined.
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>>144426161
レイナ・プラウラーに脳内ハックされてしにたい

緑髪の子はレイナ・プラウラーっていうのね。
電子戦機の名前ついてる、小ネタ面白い
>>
>放送前の瀬戸ちゃん→熱望していたマクロスでヒロイン役!しかもジーナス家のキャラで嬉しい!

>ミラージュの活躍は?
>瀬戸「なんだろ?(何もない)」
>新人鈴木「めっちゃデレますよねw(恋愛面でも戦闘面でもフレイアしか見せ場ないから意味ねーけどな!)」

I also find Miragefags is overreacted, but maybe can't just blaming them when even Asami Seto sounds a bit disappointed from the interview.
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>>144427028
>miragefags
It's Macross fans who are displeased.
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>>144426900
>she is a secondary character
how dare you
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>>144427107
"Macross fans" is a lot lager than "Miragefags" you know.
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>>144427169
*larger
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>>144427169
And yet it's true, saying miragefags is just inaccurate.
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>>144427141
We all know she is the undisputed third main character. I just don't want to provoke miragefags
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>>144427199
So you saying Macross fans that include Miragefags feels not happy with Mirage(and maybe plus many other characters)'s writing?
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>>144409579
>8 years later
>still delusional
WHY???
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>>144427331
>tripfag
WHY???
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>miragefags literally kicking and screaming for attention because their waifu got cucked

Loving
Every
Laugh
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>>144427331
>8 years
but that's from the 2013 game where Sheryl was btfo
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Purple is the new green
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>>144427442
Quality post.
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I hope Mirage goes Griffith route.
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>>144413939
That's the most genki moment she got after that she being "ALTO-KUN" "AIMO" "OH NO HE TALK WITH SHERYL-SAN AGAIN GASP GASP"
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>>144421580
Holyfuck jesuschrist stop doing this on blue board.
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So I saw the first episode and im a bit confused. Why are the enemies weak to singing and dancing? Is this supposed to be an idol anime with mechs?
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>>144423960
They should change movie tiltle into that shit.
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>>144424154
No one can hate HOINA.
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>>144426499
Fucking cute, just look how happy they are. Snow scene was like there're only them in this world.
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UHIHIHI >>>>> HOINA > GORI GORI >> ANGATO
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>>144429210
Indeed
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>>144428574
They explained that Walkure's singing can treat those inflicted with the berserk causing VAR syndrome. Then some kind of uknowns attack and you're not supposed to know what their deal is yet
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How can Mirage and Bogue compete?
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>>144429516
>Bogue
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>>144429516
>Bogue
He already lose from the first episode.
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Mirage's impact towards fans this episode can only be justified if she gets a spot in coming top 10 best female character polls.
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>>144429331
I haven't watched any episodes of this Macross yet but Freyja honestly feels like a character who was put in the series to lose
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>>144429708
No idea about the demographics for Newtype senpai desu
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>>144429708
No, her impact towards fans are justified if said fans feel something.
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>>144429708
Talk about poll, i thought we may see "will there any impact?" in this poll first.
https://anime.dmkt-sp.jp/animestore/CP/CP00000638

But then i find out
>投票期間 2016年7月1日(金)10:00~7月15日(金)10:00
>The poll ends at July 15 10:00am, 2 days before episodes 16
Welp, not even network poll give Mirage a chance.
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>>144429726
They can still pull a "circumstances won't allow us to be together" card. Have her decide to give him up or any number of similiar variations of this, with 10 episodes left.

She clearly won the love train, but might lose to circumstances.
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>>144429708
they(we) are as likely to drop rather than to rush to buy magazines tbqh
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>>144429708
Wasn't the poll closed 5 days ago?
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>>144429726
Go watch it anon, it's great. There're so many hype episode. MC is a cool guy and a biggest Freyjafag.
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>>144429768
>No idea about the demographics for Newtype
We are already aware that Japanese fan community started voicing out their dissatisfaction towards the writers treatment towards Mirage. Even Asami seto feels disappointed (As posted by an anon >>144427028).

Of course, there will be people saying minority opinion isn't powerful enough to justify the matter. Therefore we need to have official sources such as interviews or magazines polls to further justify those claims about mirage to be true and valid and not subject to any bias
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>>144429849
Do we know when they will post the results?
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>>144429971
It's called treating your franchise with respect.

>>144430002
July 29
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>>144429971
But i think
>>144429888
is higher chance then they start voting her.
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>>144430025
Thanks. I hope Kaname is still in top 5.
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>>144408568
That's a cute boy for you.
>>
Sounds like there is not much to talk this week other than this sort of accumulated mistakes.

Predictions are not /a/ forte anyway, we rarely get anything right.
But if I was to say one, Roid and Keith are gonna become conflicted between their *love* for Heinz and their plans to destroy the humans. I think one is gonna murder the other eventually.
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>>144430096
Does Roid actually care for Heinz? Seems like he's just using him now
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>>144430132
He was concerned about him when Allahu'Akbar was introduced while Keith didn't care.

After the DE explosion and Grania's death, their roles look reversed.
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Reina and Makina are cutest couple
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>>144430263
OTP
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>>144430263
>>144430289
>Reina's presence cockblocks Makina from finding a good man to procreate using her child-bearing hips
fucking green everytime
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>>144429971
>>144430025
The butt devestation is off the charts on you
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She even let him touch her rune now. This is going too far.
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>>144430544
Isn't gonna shine anymore once she loses?
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>>144430773
It only does 4 colors
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>>144430025
>treat franchise with respect
Macross 7???
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>>144429345
Thanks anon. Seems like a silly premise but it is an anime so I guess ill give it a shot.
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>>144430773
You're talking like Hayate is the only thing Freyja have.
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>>144430887
It'd doesn't come across as silly within universe because of the longstanding lore and history of franchise. Like everything that happened in the first episode is supported by the longstanding light SF elements within the universe

Of course to us viewers though, Macross has always been silly. Transforming robots, wars stopped by a love song. It's always a fun ride, and it can get surprisingly serious as it goes along.
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Macross Delta episode 15 recap show is out bios.
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>>144431249
it was out a while ago when the put it and 14 up. They failed to impress that time.

Did you mean 16?
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>>144431328
Yea...My error there. Sry.

So what do u think about episode 16's recap show?
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>>144431415
Haven't heard it yet, it takes an hour to get through.
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>>144431470
Alright then hope I can read through everyone's comments here regarding the recap show
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>>144431415
I'm reminded of the fact that these people haven't even read the main page glossary. Or don't keep track of the information there, so whenever they're speculating
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>>144431990
That is the answer i would expect from everyone if they are actually aware about it
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>>144432220
I'm just finding them less insightfull as I've been going along. I feel i have a better grasp of all the characters, all the direction and the flow of the show than they do. I have access to information they don't bother looking up (to be fair, why would they?), and I'm getting annoyed when they start nitpicking some detail. I'm probably not gonna listen to these anymore, I enjoyed them a lot early on, but not so much lately.
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Is Mikumo's outfit new?
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>preferring small kids to this
Deep inside you you know it won't happen.
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>>144434067
Hayate sure gave a fuck about her when she had her boobs pressed against his back.
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>every single Macross anime had falseflag romance
>Freyjafags are celebrating halfway the series
You never learn.
It will only be more painful.
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>>144434269
So Misa end for Mirage?
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>>144434269
The biggest problem I have with it is that I don't really feel Hayate x Mirage at all. Yes I felt for her when she shed a tear. But they have nothing otherwise. So when the inevitable twist comes, I don't think I can get behind it unless there's some major things happening. Like truly major. And I'll still feel annoyed the baited the other ship this hard. I never felt convinced by Ranka no matter how many times I saw her Seikan Hikou scene. Here it just feels they'll switch out what should have happened for the sake of a twist.
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>>144434067
Give it time.
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>>144434269
I'm starting to have my doubts. Kawamori doesn't like to do the same thing twice and the younger girl winning would be a first. Plus, there's all the development they have put into Hayate/Freyja. The only problem for me is that I still have a hard time picturing them in a romantic relationship, maybe because their dynamics don't convince me but that's just my opinion and I can see why other people like the idea of them together.

Then on the other hand it's right that in Macross the winner usually doesn't peak so early.
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>>144434067
There are plenty of problems beyond that issue.
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>>144434269
>every single Macross anime had falseflag romance
only SDF so shut up faggot
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>>144434478
>>144434543
Remember how Sheryl's development started in the last episodes of Frontier?
Yeah.
>>144434576
>only SDF
Nah.
>Guld
>Ranka
>Minmey
They all seemed to win until finally Justice happened.
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>>144434478
In frontier, there is Michael and Klan who is pushing both Sheryl and Alto. Sheryl obviously loves Alto but Alto is a dense and ignorant fag who couldn't even realize the feelings expressed by Sheryl and Ranka.

Michael and Klan's has been a huge influence to alto in this love triangle. Heck, Michael have reminding Alto time to time about this
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>>144434629
>Ranka
>implying she have a chance
HAHAHA
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>>144408667
Reported
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>>144434576
Frontier had it too. Though it wasn't convincing. Ranka had a midseries peak with her Seikan Hikou scene. Then it all went south quickly. Yes, looking over the whole in retrospect you can say that she never had a chance.

The only macross where falseflagging romance didn't really have any bearing whatsoever, was 7, and that didn't end with romance anywhere either.
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>>144434658
But Michael was supposed to be long gone.
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>>144434067
I don't see why people want her to win that much. Mirage is boring to be around, insecure, useless most of the time, follows Hayate everywhere and now instead of developping her skills now we see her acting girly and doki doki.
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>>144434629
>Ranka
>seemed to win
>anyone giving a fuck about the romance in Plus
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>>144434697
Maybe this is what the writer wants, who knows?
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>>144434629
> Remember how Sheryl's development started in the last episodes of Frontier?
Freyja will still have development in the upcoming episodes especially episode 22, from the event reports we got.
Of course we no nothing about Mirage's development aside from
>girlier.

And anyways, Kawamori said this Macross will be different than the others and there is a reason the logo is broken.
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The romance seems something that's just there because sponsors wanted it. There might be no resolution.
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>>144434742
>>144434543
>early celebrations
>headcanons
>trying to get in kawamoris head
good luck wit that
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>>144434697
I wished that her character is a strong Ace who inspired and make Hayate become more serious but that's a Messer's role.
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>>144434742
Now i hope that in future events, Kawamori will bring a long Mirage's seiyu into any kind of convention or press conference. I would like her to answer most of her fan's concern towards Mirage's character.
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>>144434629
>>144434658
Not sure why you two are replying to me. I feel the series is going to go exactly where you're saying where it's pointing. What I'm saying is essentially that I don't think I'll approve. All previous falseflagging romances have gone like you describe it. I just don't feel its a good idea that it will do so this time (unless they shake things up massively, but again, even if they do, I feel like this time, they baited the other side too hard and it'll just lead to resentment)

Yes peg me as a butthurt Freyjafag. That's pretty much what I am.
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Delta has been pushing aside most of supporting and some of the main cast like they are trying to make people dislike freyja on purpose and we are sick of it or beginning to get sick.
Is it too much to expect from these staff geniuses to not be a one-trick pony?
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>>144434821
Maybe, just maybe that this a bait set up by Kawamori in baiting fans to think that HayaMira will be together in the end
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>>144434863
>we
Speak for yourself.
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>>144434863
oh shut the fuck up already.
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>>144434804
Not celebrating anything, not headcanons. I say what it was said in reports and interviews.

>>144434820
It seems they are mostly focused on Walkure for now. It's their cash cow. If they bring on the seiyuu it will be interesting to see what they will say.
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>>144434863
It has become a boring pattern for sure
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Why are you guys now trying to delegitimize a possible MIrage win?
Are you that desperate?
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I remember that although in restrospect Ranka had never a chance, back then after Seikan Hikou many people were convinced she was pretty much in the lead. Then Sheryl started to become more prominent with episode 18 and by episode 22 she was the winner. I don't know if they'll do the same in Delta, but Frontier focused first on Ranka and then switched to Sheryl, and I thought it did a good job at developing the two of them. I expect more or less the same in Delta, mostly because Mirage has started to receive attention now. Also, I think she'll play a key part at cheering Hayate up when the issue of his father comes up.

I just hope that if this is bait-and-switch they will give Hayate and Mirage's relationship enough development to make it convincing and give Freyja a happy ending.
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>>144435030
Sheryl was leading at the beginning though. Mirage has... nothing.
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>>144434478
Yeah I felt bad for Mirage but I wanted her to be happy on her own, not to win. Hayate and Freyja make a better couple.
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>>144434990
Think for a minute the kind of public that Freyja appeals to and then come back,

>>144434742
>this Macross will be different than the others
Isn't this literally every single author for every single franchise premiere? (uncharted territory, never seen before, we'll experiment with this now)
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>>144434990
It's not delegitimizing it. It's pointing out that it NEEDS to legitimize itself. Maybe they can manage it during the last 10 episodes of the show. But it's a very late start, so they need to get it going if it's going to. Pronto.
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>>144434863
Making Freyja a black hole of screen time, what could go wrong?

I'm still expecting for Mikumo to do more that a random song and witty comments.
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>>144435079
I don't know man, I'm just copying his words.
He could do what the other anons said: bait hard with hayate/freyja and then switch to Mirage and make her the winner.

I took his words plus the broken logo as none will be in a relationship at the end or will try to but the other party will reject them.

I like my Hayate/Freyja more than Hayate/Mirage. And I'm fine with both, really. But so far Mirage hasn't developed as a character much less her relationship with Hayate so unless they proceed stuff till episode 22 and stop making Hayate a Freyjafag then if she wins it will definitely be an awful victory.
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>>144434990
Where do you think you are?
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>>144435185
I as of yet don't like Hayate/Mirage. I don't feel I've been given a reason to. Yes I still felt incredibly bad for Mirage when cried, but I need more than that. The show needs to show me why I should like Hayate/Mirage.
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What is with mirage in this scene?
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>>144435315
Given assurance that she will win later on
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>>144435185
When Freyja was singing and Hayate's quartz almost made him pass out really made me feel like puking.

Like are they for real trying to sell it like that? Since when Macross panders to shoujo faggets? Awful victory are the right words you nailed it.
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>>144435337
Kawamori's a shoujofag. Go watch his another show such as EVOL.
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>>144435292
It's the same with Alto/Ranka, really. She alone was quite taken by Alto, and Alto was protective of her, but they had absolutely no chemistry. So the only reason Frontier gave me to support Alto/Ranka, was that she was really into Alto. Alto/Sheryl on the other hand got quite a bit more than that. Though to be fair, a lot of it came late in the show. Which leads me back to my main argument. Delta needs to get serious about showing the merits of Hayate/Mirage if it indeed tends to go that route.
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>>144435292
That's fine. I mostly see it as a potential only if Mirage gets development. Of course I believe even if she wins, she will never reach the bond Hayate and Freyja have.

>>144435337
By awful victory I meant the Hayate/Mirage if she doesn't get development as a character first of all and then her relationship with Hayate.
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>>144435337
He wasn't passing out. It took him by surprise. He was feeling her sadness and her feelings about her homeland. Because he's wearing "stone that transmits thoughts and feelings" to quote Frontier. It's why he gets the idea to go get the snow later. The whole "Oh I got dizzy, maybe I didn't eat properly" was to reassure Mirage who he was with.
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I wish we really did finally get a macross without romance if only so that we could avoid this fucking never ending autistic arguing about it.
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>>144435607
I wished they're just friend.
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Freyjafags of now are as easy to trigger and predictable as they were when their name was Rankashitters.
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>>144435742
Seikan Hikou = God Bless You
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>>144435742
>freyjafags are easy to trigger
All I'm seeing now are miragefags crying about their waifu's irrelevance.
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>>144435742
The hilarious part is that at least on Japanese twitter a lot of Freyjafags and HayaFre shippers used to be Rankafags and Alto/Ranka shippers who claim this is revenge for what happened with Ranka.

While Alto/Sheryl, Brera/Ranka and Sheryl/Ranka shippers prefer Messer/Kaname, Bogue/Freyja, Mirage or Mikumo with Freyja and are rooting for Mirage to win the Hayatebowl.
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but I preferred it when these threads were about NUNSfags vs Windfags.
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>>144435990
Fuck no.
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>>144435990
I remember there are people complaining NUNSfags and Windfags for flooding the thread.
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>>144435949
What do they see in Mirage that could make them think she is better with Hayate? So far, it's your usual teammate/buddy relationship.
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>>144435949
>people are saying Delta is about the loser gaining a lead and then choking in the end
>Freyjafags call it shitposting
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>>144436316
Where are you reading this?
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>>144436210
Some Sheryl/Alto shippers like her better for Hayate because she's the older girl and they make a better ケンカップル or quarrel couple than Hayate and Freyja, and they don't like how the latter two feel a bit childish, from what I read.
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>>144436352
I see. Thanks.

I don't see Hayate/Freyja as childish though. It's more funny-teasing but they also have their serious moments. I guess Mirage being silent most of the time and taking her work seriously gives that feeling of maturity.
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>>144436457
I think juvenile would be a better word than childish, in retrospect.
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Quarrel couple for the win!!!
>Misa and Hikaru quarrels
>Sara and Shin quarrels
>Sheryl and Alto quarrels
>Isamu and Myung quarrels
>Mirage and Hayate quarrels
>Sylvie and Hibiki quarrels (if Macross II is included)

Why hadn't anybody thought about this?
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>>144434804
This.
>>144434709
Ranka was pushed hard.
>I didn't care therefore no one does
Nice logic.
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>>144436595
Quarrels make raunchy make-up sex
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>>144434821
You said there's no character development for Mirage. We're midway through, wait for it.
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>>144435607
>I wish we really did finally get a macross without romance
Dropped all day erriday.
Fucking disgusting, kill yourself.
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>>144436595
They're delusional, they don't wanna see what's crystal clear.
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>>144436834
>>144436834
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>>144436595
Hayate and Mirage stopped quarreling in the early half of the first cour though.
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Holyshit too many ship cancer
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