Can someone please explain the appeal of this show to me? For a show that is so beloved by so many, it's so generic and uninteresting.
I literally just finished the entire thing. Also why did the final battle of the Chimera Ant saga suddenly turn to constant narration and take like 20 episode for one hour of time to pass? Best arc my ass, it was slow as molasses.
Going from one generic style to another is still generic. I just heard over and over people gushing over this show and how it was so much better than other shonen shows when it's the exact same bullshit.
I was actually having fun during the first arc until it revealed the whole "lol there's actually this superpower thing called Nen that everyone has and that clown guy actually has a power level of 6000000 XDDDD". Can't we have a nice adventure show without getting into power level bullshit and uncontrolled power creep? That would be nice
>I can't enjoy a show without waifus
This is how fucking pathetic you haters are, can't you watch a single show without wanting to masturbate to the characters?
>Also why did the final battle of the Chimera Ant saga suddenly turn to constant narration and take like 20 episode for one hour of time to pass?
Because that's how it was in the manga.
Fucking disgusting. At this point Togashi should have just written a fucking book. Clearly he has difficulty telling a story through art and has to overly rely on dialogue and narration.
Where's that autistic CAfag who constantly dumps manga pages and uses ad-hominems to hide his butthurt?
> hurrr foreshadowing
whatever those hints supposedly were, they were just done so you could go "wooow, it was hinted at after all!" in retrospect. nobody sane would ever expect something like nen without knowing about it beforehand.
this is why foreshadowing is cancer. it's done deliberately so that no one can get a twist before it actually happens, and once it actually happens, kneejerkers can wack off to the 'foreshadowing'.
>Clearly this person has monstrous skill and dexterity. The precision needed to kill by throwing a playing card shows the gap in experience between this character and our hero.
>lol jk just magic
>generic and uninteresting
Wew lad, the only way you could have made a more empty and meaningless criticism would be by calling it overrated
Because you're watching a trash adaptation, read the manga
I don't see how Hisoka being able to kill someone with playing cards is evidence that Nen was foreshadowed. You could apply the same logic to Gon or Killua, who regularly commit superhuman feats far before Nen is introduced. Togashi isn't some godlike writer and not everything is foreshadowing.
What I hate more than anything isn't the boring tropes. It isn't the overly-expositional narration. It isn't even the art scribblish art. What I hate more than anything is the Goddamn boring story where every setup to every arc is graced with a terrible anticlimax before moving on.
Every single arc has arguably good buildup to the finale, but there's never any damn payoff. It's like Togashi gets bored with his own settings and rushes the end so he can start a new one. It's pathetic.
No shit. That doesn't make any less garbage. In fact, lazily scribbling in exactly what a character is thinking over multiple paragraphs blotting out any illustration is the worst possible way to convey this point.
chop your dick off nigger
oh boy oh boy, let me ask you a question:1999 or 2011?
>posting scans that were redrawn 13 years ago
I know you weren't born yet back then but that's still no excuse.
>the only good payoff/climax is some epik fight between the MC and the big bad
I thought you tried to complain about tropes
>the worst possible way to convey this point
It's very efficient at conveying how much is going through his head through this short amount of time and consistent with Welfin's character whose main trait is overthinking the shit out of everything
Am i being baited or are you this much of a pseudo intellectual?
Yeah, dipshit. He changed his face around and used pins to hold it in place. It was creepy and unsettling.
At least until you find out later that they're magic pins that use magic to alter your face if you have a high enough power level.
>Yeah, dipshit. He changed his face around and used pins to hold it in place. It was creepy and unsettling.
And it was fucking IMPOSSIBLE because people's faces don't fucking work that way without magic.
Where did you even get that from? Abilities don't equate to powerlevels you dumb memer, just like the opposite is also true
At this point all you're complaining about is because it has a power system without making a coherent argument why you don't like it
lol i showed this to a female friend whos generic af, typical FB girl and that. She said the same thing as you loooool, you pretty much share mems on FB about relationships, dogs and wanting cuddles
You know what's lame?
People complaining about how a power works in certain manga/anime. We question this work like crazy but moeshit never questioned how it works. Moeshitters are ruining manga/anime.
But pseudo-intellectuals hate the CA arc because it has narration. They also generally claim the Yorkshin arc is the best in the series and one of the best in manga in general.
>boy who wants to find his father
>boy who wants to find his purpose besides killing people
>boy who wants to find out who killed his clan
>boy who wants to help people be cured of diseases
>all have a common goal and never forget what they want in life
Tell me one thing that's generic about this anime.
I'm not gonna defend Togashi's storytelling style, but that page in particular is just niggastream being shit at translating. Viz's translation has a little more than half as many words.
Oh my god Chimera arc is so fucking FRUSTRATING.
I literally just watched a whole episode of Welkin and Ikalgo who probably aren't even relevant towards the end talk about stupid shit and Ikalgo finally not being a bitch.
Does this really need a full episodes dedicated towards it.
>Welkin and Ikalgo who probably aren't even relevant towards the end
Welkin is probably the most important character.
Well I am an idiot then, I guess I won't post until I finish it.
I just had to get that off because HxH cock teases so much with fights and then you get episodes like this.
>Well I am an idiot then
About time you figured this out.
LOL at all the speedwatcher fags saying nen is bullshut & wasn't foreshadow. They missed the part where Hisoka turn a guy's arm into flower pedals because they don't fucking pay attention to the episodes.
I'm sure that there are some 2011fags who actually believe this.
>why would madhouse do (stupid shit)?
No one will ever know
That wasn't foreshadowing, it was terrible censorship and didn't foreshadow shit, Hisoka is never seen being able to do anything like that
Personally, I think it's more a complaint because it started off as a show without all that power level bullshit, only to have it shoved in 30 episodes in; when nearly all action anime has it, it was so refreshing to have a show that simply didn't.
what power level bullshit? heavens arena is tactical fights , yorkshin has almost no fights, greed island is a card game, chimera ants whole message of human cruelty shits on the concept of power levels, election is a political thriller and dc arc has one fight so far between two antagonists that was completely tactical. are you high?
Why would you expect that? Gon's business with Hisoka was done as soon as he punchedhim in the face and gave his tag back. Not to mention the series is still ongoing
>people on this board actually defend Tell, Don't Show: The Anime
HxH makes Dexter look like The Wire.
Not him, but every time a new arc starts Gon and Killua have to power up in some way in order to compete. This is explicitly shown when Killua goes back the hunter exam after training in Greed Island; he's not even in the same ballpark as he was the year before. That's bog standard power-level story progression. I would agree with you that HxH has all those other qualities and that they make it worth reading, but the fact is power levels are clearly a major factor in the story.
>calling HxH an anime
Confirmed for meme spouting retard.
Also i will never understand this meme, the narration is almost exclusively used for giving a neutral opinion like when it was saying Pitou was telling the truth and Youpi was being sincere. Scenes like the Netero and Zeno walking in on Meruem and Komugi or the Gon/Pitou confrontations are great exemples of this "show don't tell" meme you retards like to spout.
>but every time a new arc starts Gon and Killua have to power up in some way in order to compete
But they never manage to really compete.
They train to open the doors to the Zoldyck estate but get bitchslapped by buttlers.
They learn Nen in Heaven's Arena but Gon loses to Hisoka and they never reach the top of the arena.
They're completely outclassed by the phantom troupe.
They keep training in G.I. but they're objectively weaker than the top dogs like Razor or Genthru.
They get their ass handed by ants and have to train to be of any use, yet the top threat gets nuked, not defeated because of their training.
Training matters when there's fighting to be had. But in no way would I call it a "major factor".
I don't see your point. You're trying to argue against power levels, right?
I honestly don't see where you're coming from. Perhaps we each have a different understanding of what "power levels" are. They clearly get a lot stronger than they would have if they hadn't trained. I'm not the kind of reader that rigidly assigns their power in terms of tiers, it's really just a storytelling tool to show their progress. And when the times they ultimately lose, that has little bearing on whether or not they're stronger than they were before, it just means there are still stronger people out there. It's like saying you suck at chess because you can't beat Bobby Fischer even though you qualified for nationals and a year ago you didn't even know the rules.
They got stronger after learning nen, is that what qualifies as power levels to you?
I guess real life has powerlevels too because i'm sure some guy who learned karate would easily kick my ass.
Ah, okay. I'm not trying to say it's bullshit, just that there are plenty of matchups in HxH that come down to sheer terms of power which could be interpreted as power levels.
>I guess real life has powerlevels too because i'm sure some guy who learned karate would easily kick my ass.
That was my understanding of power levels, yes. That in a fair fight someone can beat you simply by being stronger. Nevermind that fair fights rarely happen, the point is that being stronger is a significant advantage in these kinds of stories.
So let me get this straight, according to you, powerlevels are when there is someone more proficient at fighting than someone else?
What series exactly doesn't have powerlevels then? Because according to this definition any story where every character isn't exactly as strong as the other is powerlevels. Even as i said real life has powerlevels according to you.
And what's the limit on what you consider "being stronger"? Would an army being better trained and equipped than an insurgency constitute as powerlevels?
Genuinely trying to understand you here.
I've always thought of power levels in terms of raw strength. Tactics, experience, luck, etc. are all separate factors. It's still very vague, and it doesn't help that it's namesake in Dragon Ball was also poorly defined, but I'm more interested in its narrative applications so I don't mind. People who take power levels seriously (God forbid) would probably disagree with me, though.
I can't think of any battle series that don't have power levels in some way. Growing stronger is usually the theme of these stories so that implies the presence of power levels. I would say, however, that there are plenty of series where power levels are present but don't matter that much. Jojo always immediately comes to mind for two reasons: 1) Almost every ability can be fatal if used in correctly and each ability is unique enough that they can't be beaten in the same way. 2) Power ups are relatively rare compared to other manga so the disparity in power between major characters is never insurmountably large. I remember thinking Medaka Box also did the same thing pretty well.
SoL is actually interesting and less generic, why even make anything with a plot it's so retarded. Saying muh story is a gay excuse for not wanting to watch ecchi, admit it. Haven't you had enough of this fantasy and story time bullshit when you were 12? Grow up retards.
Do any of you people actually know how to argue your points? There are maybe two legitimate criticism points made in this thread and the rest is just drive-by shitposting that makes me question the ages of the posters in this thread. This could have been a good interesting thread if /a/ wasn't plagued by braindead memers.
Also the "Show, don't tell" complaint is quickly becoming a carelessly regurgitated idea in regards to shows that are exposition heavy. Also I don't think a majority of the watchers saying it actually know how that would play out for them, as most shows with "show, don't tell" writing usually flies over the common viewers' heads.
Yes, the CA is horribly slow, and yes, the exposition should have been trimmed down. I'm not using this as a defense for the show, but maybe it was a bit necessary, as certain key scenes benefitted from the narration while others were severely bogged down by it. Take for example the Stairs scene at the beginning of the Palace Invasion, if there was no narrator a lot of details would have been missed by viewers, like why did everyone but Gon stopped. Was the audience just suppose to figure out that the characters were dreading the possibility of Knuckle and Meleon getting killed by Dragon Dive from their bpdy language? If Togashi wanted to write in them just thinking that he could have yet he didn't, and it worked in some parts but blew the execution(mainly in the anime) in others.
So is it physical strength then? Because it was shown pretty often to be a minor factor, the obvious exemple being Uvo or Chrollo completely shitting on Hisoka despite being physically much weaker. Even Meruem won against Netero because he was smart enough to notice a minuscule pattern in his attacks.
Also in JoJo there are stands that are objectively stronger than others so that would constitute to powerlevels according to your definition. Same goes for Medaka Box. And i find it strange that you compare nen users to non-nen users for HxH but don't do the same with stand users and regular people for JoJo.
But as you stated they are mostly irrelevant, and the reasons you gave for JoJo also apply to HxH. Even when they are facing stronger enemies like Genthru they win through elaborating a strategy or tricking them, and that's when they fight at all. Gon actually got weaker after the CA arc so that also goes against what you were saying.
>introduce Kakin and DC
>develop the MCs and their relationship, causing them to separate and change their motivations
>give more background and world building regarding the Hunter association
>kill off one of the most important characters in the series, directly causing the events of the two following arcs
It's probably the most important arc in the series with the exam, i will never understand this meme
Why do we have to write a thesis paper on why the CA arc was trash when some of us watched it and thought " Damn, this shit is trash."
Every ep that wasn't 116, 126, 131 or the final eps of the arc. But I guess that was mainly because they wanted to get their best animation directors for the iconic parts, so pacing had to take the blows. >>144412115
Yeah, well the entire argument is moot at this point.
I wasn't talking about the anime, i was asking what scenes you thought suffered because of the narration. I agree the anime shat the bed in the invasion with the all the fucking slow pans of feet with flute music even though i would say episode 111 is also pretty great.
>the notion of someone doing both is literally impossible
Actually, I watched the series first and later read the manga, hense the "still ( keyword) found it boring as hell."
Context clues are your friend, retard.
>introduce Kakin and DC
Something that could have been done without so much filler.
>develop the MCs and their relationship, causing them to separate and change their motivations
Holy crap, Killua needle in the eye was one of the most bullshitting things in the whole series. They could have leave his problems as a psychological thing which he would have get rid off over time and actual character development, but no, magic needle on the eye. And no, Gon fucking things up and then just apologizing for the hundred time is not character development, and even if there was any kind of development it went to the shitter after Kite surprisingly survived and he got resurrected by Killua fairy godparent. The changes you are talking about are from the Election arc, not the CA arc.
>give more background and world building regarding the Hunter association
>kill off one of the most important characters in the series, directly causing the events of the two following arcs
You mean Netero, one character that nobody ever gave a shit about and was introduced just to die and give foot the next arc? Yeah, just what i'm saying, the whole CA arc was meaningless and pointless, just a filler arc like any other in Naruto or Bleach.
Wow I fucked up that post
I just finished the Heaven's Arena arc (I think, Gon just gave Hisoka his tag back and then left the arena) Is the next arc much better? Killua's family arc and this arc weren't very enjoyable, I honestly enjoyed the Hunter Exam a lot more.
Looks like a girl to me senpai
>there are no cute girls in Hunter x Hunter
Pic related, best girl
If it's in the original source material (manga), and it furthers the story, it's not filler. Chimera ant arc is overly drawn out, no doubt, but it equally part of the story line as greed island, or the zoldyck mini arc.
>Something that could have been done without so much filler.
You can say that literally about any fucking event you dipshit, read a synopsis if other things happening that are specific to an arc in particular trigger your ADHD this bad.
It was psychological, the only thing the needle did was prevent him from moving past it. It still was a character development moment regardless of how you feel about the execution.
>Gon fucking things up and then just apologizing for the hundred time
Can you paint a broader stroke with your greasy fingers you fucking autist? At this point you're not even trying to argue a point, you're trying to damage control. There was literally no other event where Gon acted the way he did in CA.
It did it before that and served to introduce temp hunters and the fact there was some fuckery behind the scenes, hinting at Pariston. You probably missed that because you're an autistic speedreader though.
>You mean Netero
Yes Netero, the guy in charge of the thing that is literally the title of the series. He is one of the most important characters even if you don't care about him.
You are literally retarded, you might as well call Yorkshin a filler arc you dumb fuck.
Not even memeing but consider killing yourself.
why are most threads on /a/ bait threads?
>backpedalling this hard
I'm talking about your original post. You just quoted your last post you fucking retard.
You never talked about reading in that first post, you only mentioned watching it.
>Even when they are facing stronger enemies like Genthru they win through elaborating a strategy or tricking them, and that's when they fight at all.
That's kind of my point, though. In order to even get to the point where they could challenge Genthru Gon and Killua had to train their asses off until they were multiple times stronger than before, yet still weaker than their enemy. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, just that in the universe of the story they wouldn't have stood a chance had they not trained at all. Training clearly factored into their victory, therefore strength is clearly a factor in their universe.
>And i find it strange that you compare nen users to non-nen users for HxH but don't do the same with stand users and regular people for JoJo.
> how dare you not mention that you mention watching AND reading HxH REEEEEEEE!!!
I binged the entire manga like a week ago. I enjoyed it. I don't think I'd ever do myself the disservice of ever watching a shounen again, though.
My only real criticism is about how harshly Gon took Kite's death. I saw that nigga on like 50 pages tops - no where near enough time to actually care for him. If it was Killua that got killed I could understand Gon's reaction and his choices, but didn't Kite just save Gon from a bear once and then had a fireside chat with him?
Also the "We're in a game lol" arc was kinda boring until the end. Pretty boring, actually.
>Gon and Killua had to train their asses off until they were multiple times stronger than before
Was that a thing? I'm pretty sure the only thing Gon trained in was mastering using Gyo quickly to protect himself. If you're talking about before entering Greed Island they were complete shitters who didn't even have a hatsu, getting stronger doesn't mean much.
Though now i kind of see what you mean, but i still find it pretty silly that you talk about people being better at fighting than others as "power levels", especially when nen abilities are thrown in the mix.
You forgot that it showed humans are evil.
Hxh is a deconstruction of the shonen genre.
Hunter Exam Arc: The "contest" arc, in which several characters need to compete with each other in order to win a title. This arc examines what would actually happen in a contest filled with superhumans- the normal humans die in brutal ways, the empowered individuals run rampant and murder dozens, and Gon barely survives only because the only two people that know Nen are Hisoka and Illumi, who likes Gon enough to keep him alive for Hisoka and barely processes Gon's presence for Illumi.
Phantom Troupe Arc: The "villain squad" arc, in which the heroes face off against a group of evil villains. This arc examines what would happen if you took superpowered humans and put them in the real world- the power gap between the troupe and the mafia goons is massive, and only Kurapika, who has limited his arsenal to specifically only fight the troupe can stand a chance. Even still, Kurapika can only do so little, and most of the troupe is still alive.
Chimera Ant Arc: The "enemy army" arc, in which a large enemy force accosts the heroes, with a powerful leader. This arc in particular examines the idea of having an enemy that is significantly stronger than you- from the enemy's perspective. What is it like being devastatingly stronger than everyone else? How would something that is on another level from everything process the worth of other creatures? What would something that was meteorically stronger than everything else think when it realizes that other creatures can think just like it can? What would it constitute as strength? The Chimera Ant King is a rather somber answer to all of these questions. Even more deconstructive is that the humans actually cheat to win- upon learning that he will die and realizing no one else can stop the king, Netero detonates a nuclear bomb in his chest than eventually kills the King from radiation poisoning, rather than a straight up fight.
The reason Gon took Kite's death so harshly is because he felt guilty for it and wanted to fix it.
Kite also saved his life like 3 times and was the one to tell him about Ging, i think anyone would feel indebted to life to someone if that happened. Even if you didn't care about him Gon did.
I understand the reason Gon felt the way he did, I dislike the way the author handled the entire situation. If I saw more of Kite as a reader I most likely wouldn't have this complaint, which is why I used Killua as an example. Very prominent character with enough screen-time to develop a connection to.
Maybe it's different for those who have instead watched the series since it's literally more time spent with the characters depending on pacing, but in my case it was only a number of pages. I seriously felt more for any of the characters taking part in the castle invasion because so much more development was given to them.
The audience doesn't really need to care about Kite, you're not actually supposed to empathize so strongly with Gon. His reaction to Kite's death is portrayed as a negative thing. The more we care about Kite, the more righteous Gon seems, and the less effective the message is.
Thanks just finished rewatching CCS. Gonna start princess tutu
Doesn't even have to be straight out romance, but no female characters of interest just screams a waste of time
And 140 episodes? Hahaha. I bet you think one piece is (still) good too
Nah, but no cute girls means I'd have a tough time keeping interest for so long
Why are you still blogging in a thread about a series you're never going to watch, defending your retarded criteria for watching anime? If you don't want to watch it, don't. Jesus christ.
>Hxh is a deconstruction of the shonen genre.
I see people parroting this shit all the time despite HxH tendency to live up to troupes as often as it averts them.
>I don't know if my brain can handle watching something that long with no (straight) love interest
Jesus fuck man, the absence of shipping is one of the best aspect about HxH, shit gets accomplished all the fucking time without some stupid 'I wanna help to' loser bitch fucking it up, get some fucking dignity.
I had interest in watching it when entering the thread, and you guys just helped me lose it.
I've seen pretty images of the original anime and it's animated by Nippon animation which I love, so there's still interest in the back of my head.
Thanks, it looks lovely.
Sorry I shouldnt have made this about romance. I just want notable female characters.
I'd still say give it a chance as characters are enjoyable enough that them being female won't even matter. If it makes you feel better there are notable females in HxH but they don't show up till around the third arc.
>notable female characters
HxH has them, although the first arc or two are kind of bare. >>144415064 is right, one of the most important characters of CA arc is female.
If you can't appreciate an adventure story on its own though I can't see you liking it.
Also you have a good eye because 1999 anime > 2011 anime.
Starting at the third arc, the manga starts to get good female characters.
Might not be enough for you though, if that's all you're interested in. The current arc has a literal boat load of plot relevant female characters but it's the 8th arc(340 chapters in) and the manga is on hiatus.
>Can someone please explain the appeal of this show to me?
Is that supposed to be ironic?
>You can say that literally about any fucking event you dipshit
How? The hunter exam, Yorkshin, Greed Island, Dark Continent, everything was an important part of the series and introduced lots of important character and new mechanics to it. The whole CA arc was lengthened way too much just to become a stepping stone in the story.
It was an asspull however you call it and it had nothing to do with the CA arc, it was just an excuse to make Killua "break his limits" without making the story even larger that it was.
>sperging out and buzzwords
Gon has always acted on a whim just because and then apologized, "yeah Gon, you can fuck up all you want but don't do it again teehee", the only difference this time is that his plot armor didn't work and everything end up bad, and yet again, Gon acted on a whim without taking in count the consequences, just to end up in the same situation as always
"holy shit I fucked up, I should have died"
"We won, and literally nobody died except the old dude, so just don't do it again"
For reference why don't you re-read the whole series again?
Literally the only thing that interested me about this show was Kurapika's quest for revenge. He actually used his head instead of brute force and the way he analysed situations was genuinely interesting. I also liked how his powers had clear limitations and could only be used for specific purposes, whereas those dumb kids just have boring super strength/speed.
I really couldn't care less for those two dumb kids and I ended up skipping through the show in search for more Kurapika. I eventually learned that he barely ever appears after the second arc so I dropped that shit show.
You don't deserve to read the DC arc. Also, everything you said about Kurapika also applies to Killua.
Nothing happened except the MCs meeting and failing or passing, should have cut down on the filler
Nothing happened except Kurapika changing his goals and killing two dudes, should have cut down on the filler
Nothing happened except Gon and Killua getting stronger and almost meeting Ging, should have cut down on the filler
Do you see where i'm going with this or are you too retarded?
>It was an asspull however you call it
Yeah, i mean it's not as if Illumi used needles to control people since his first appearance or anything.
>it had nothing to do with the CA arc
It had to do with Killua's cowardly ways and potentially leaving Gon behind to die, which he did anyway. It was relevant to his character and the events of the arc itself even if he did leave Gon to die in another way.
>Gon has always acted on a whim just because and then apologized
What, are you complaining because his character is consistent now? As i said, "fucking up" is a pretty broad fucking stroke, you're oversimplifying it most likely because of your severe attention disorder.
Err no. Killua has just normal super powers. He can run really really fast and punch really really hard. That's it. Perhaps he gets some other abilities later, but I didn't have the patience to wait for that. He's also just the usual "super mega prodigy" who is just amazing for the sake of being amazing, whereas Kruapika only has superpowers due to gambling everything on one specific goal. Overall, the writing of the Yorknew City arc was so much better than the garbage that came later. There was a good buildup, genuine tension and witty tactics. It made you think what the next move of the respective characters would be (i.e. other than "LET'S PUNCH REALLY HARD NOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM). The enemies were also far more threatening. I actually expected Ubogin to murder Kurapika.
What did the rest of the show consist of? Generic training arcs, an MMORPG arc that didn't even use the setting of the world in an interesting way, some overpowered bugs who got blown away by an asspull nuke and then some almighty magic kid which WOULD'VE been interesting if everybody had to obey the rules (but Killua can just bend all the rules cause he's one of the MCs).
They never talked about them as a way to defeat the King or whatever the Cell ripoff was called. If there was a plan involving a nuke to defeat him, I wouldn't have complained. But nope. The old fart just suddenly had a bomb up his ass and killed Cell with it.
That's akin to a seemingly unarmed person shooting the bad guy in the last second by pulling a gun out of his ass, a literal asspull.
>Err no. Killua has just normal super powers. He can run really really fast and punch really really hard.
Are you saying speed can't have interesting applications? Darts fight and the entire Election arc comes to mind
>He's also just the usual "super mega prodigy" who is just amazing for the sake of being amazing
He is a prodigy, but is held back by his psychological issues, thats the point
>There was a good buildup, genuine tension and witty tactics
This applies to every arc in HxH
>LET'S PUNCH REALLY HARD NOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM
This is never a thing in HxH
Just stop posting
>hey guys nukes exist
>shit i guess someone's gonna have to die to do this
>hey guys no matter what the RG does Meruem is fucked
>did i mention nukes exist?
It used something that was stated to exist volumes prior, how is that an asspull? Did you want Netero to explicitely say what he was going to do so it doesn't surprise the reader?
Yorkshin was fucking garbage and the fans are the most pretentious retards on these threads.
>barely any Troupe members get characterization
>"emperor time makes me super strong lol"
>jobbing all around
>random fucking filler of the others trying to earn money that goes nowhere
>"lol btw nen stays after death sometimes so we won't go after Kurapika"
The fights were actually LESS witty than they were in the rest of the series, no fucking wonder a retard like you thinks Gon solves things by punching stronk or that the rose was an asspull. Kill yourself.
>This is never a thing in HxH
Dude, they train so they can punch harder and then use their stronger punches to defeat stronger enemies. The amount of time this shit takes up is infuriating and this comes from somebody who normally likes mindless battle shonen. It also doesn't help that the motivation of the MC doesn't make much sense. I get that a kid wants to see his biological dad. But being this obsessed with meeting a person you've never seen before is just retarded. In fact, his shitty dad is so shitty that I as a viewer don't even care if they ever meet. In fact, I would prefer them never to meet. So why should I care about Gon or Gong or whatever the uninteresting little kid's name is? I don't. HxH main story is just horrible. It had some nice side stories but didn't do anything with them.
>they train so they can punch harder and then use their stronger punches to defeat stronger enemies
No they don't. Give examples.
>The amount of time this shit takes up is infuriating
There is one training arc in HxH
>this comes from somebody who normally likes mindless battle shonen
That explains why you dislike HxH.
>>Dude, they train so they can punch harder and then use their stronger punches to defeat stronger enemies.
Am I being rused, is this bait? I can't tell anymore, I really wish I had the strength to kill myself.
Out of all the stupid shit you typed you had to talk about Gon's motivation, where he literally says he didn't care about meeting Ging and just wanted to find him. You are clinically retarded.
I can't believe how people can defend this.
Even Narutards admit that Kaguya's appearance at the end was dumb because nothing indicated that it would or could happen. Yes, Kaguya was MENTIONED before. Simply mentioning something is not foreshadowing though. The same applies here.
The point is that it's the most anticlimactic thing ever to end a supposedly epic battle by "oh did I forget to mention that I have this deus ex machina up my sleeves? You're dead now, bye!"
How about how Zeno talked about his hunger for an opponent as strong if not stonger than him for like 5 pages, or how Netero mentioned he was past his prime and also how he wanted a strong opponent?
And we all know that James Bond has all kinds of amazing gadgets. It would still be unsatisfying and dumb if Bond pulled out a gadget to defeat the final bad guy which wasn't introduced for that specific mission and, therefore, the viewer never knew that Bond even had the damn thing.
>Simply mentioning something is not foreshadowing though.
Yes it literally is you dipshit, if you say "nukes exist" and then use one a number of chapters later it is the literal definition of foreshadowing.
>deus ex machina
Classic case of the retarded TVTropes child using words he doesn't know, there was nothing preventing Togashi from writing Meruem to not be able to get through Netero's defense or Zero Hand killing him because we had no clue of where they stood on a power scale.
Also i'm pretty sure a nuclear blast doesn't consitute as anticlimatic.
It's a fucking cheap bomb. It's nothing special in universe, it's not a super power, it's something we all know exists. It's not a deus ex machina just because it surprised you, that's the fucking point. And while it's technically an anticlimax in terms of narrative structure, the actual scene was extremely climactic and impactful.
>Yes it literally is you dipshit, if you say "nukes exist" and then use one a number of chapters later it is the literal definition of foreshadowing.
No. Foreshadowing = indicating that something will happen. Mentioning that frogs exist isn't foreshadowing that the bad guy will step on a frog, slip and break his neck in the final battle.
Introduction of the world and setting and everything?
Expansion of said world and the characters in it?
You got that right, it was the next step into Gon and Killua training, Wing just taught them the basics, it still was part of the main story though.
"So let's throw this bunch of irrelevant characters into the story and make them fight because, oh yeah, Gon got involved somehow in the mess"
Again, it was just a loooong waste of time just to introduce the whole Dark Continent part, which I hope get to see in this lifetime.
>comparing nukes to frogs
Did you type this with a straight face?
Also no, there are more ways to foreshadow something than straight up announce it. Also i'm pretty sure that would fall under exposition and not foreshadowing.
You could say the same fucking thing about the exam or Yorkshin you dumbass, they both had irrelevant characters that fought because. At least the CA arc changed the dynamics between the MCs and introduced characters to be relevant later on. Just like you could use the same "expansion of said world and the characters in it" shit for CA.
You are biased and fucking stupid.
Gon is a fucking retard, you really didn't got that form every single moment in this series? Just pretend Killua is the MC and Gon is his wacky sidekick, it enriches your HxH experience.
>there are more ways to foreshadow something than straight up announce it.
Indeed there are. Subtle hints for instance. Simply saying "oh by the way XYZ exists", however, is not a hint that something specific will happen involving XYZ.
You also need to learn what a comparison is. A comparison would be "frogs are similar to nuke". Me using an example of a random thing to explain foreshadowing to you is not a comparison to anything. It's a simple example, honey.
I got tricked into watching it too.
Some may think I'm trolling but it is literally Naruto tier anime. In fact Naruto may be better since the Chakra system is better explained and the fights are much better in Naruto
>Subtle hints for instance
Like Netero saying the CA ordeal wouldn't end without a sacrifice? Or mentioning that he and Meruem would be fighting in a nuclear weapons testing ground?
It is not only foreshadowed but foreshadowed extensively. Don't blame the series for your own incompetency
How about the fact that Netero said the area they were in is used to test WMDs? Or the fact Knov said they wouldn't be able to save Meruem? Or maybe all the heart imagery around Netero?
And yes, you literally compared tripping on a frog to getting nuked by someone prepared. Look up the definition of "comparison". If you want to argue semantics make sure you're not a complete retard.
That's some low quality bait senpai
>And yes, you literally compared tripping on a frog to getting nuked by someone prepared.
I LITREALLY did? Ok then quote me saying that there are similarities between tripping on a frog and getting nuked.
All I remember doing was using an example to illustrate my point. When people are talking about the ship of Theseus to illustrate the problem of identity, are they comparing ships to human beings? Is that what you're thinking, my intellectually degenerate friend?
>stated that nukes exist
>stated that Netero has access to any means necessary
>stated that Netero is also 100% dedicated to his mission and ready to die
If you are this stupid i genuinely think you may have some sort of brain problems. If you are just shitposting then what's the point of pretending you are retarded just so that someone on the internet can say you're stupid?
Hello, hardcore shippingtrash anon over here.
HxH has one of the most beautiful romance stories I have ever seen (yes, even comparing it with CCS) and I bawled my eyes out every time I read or rewatched it. The character development of the series is enough to satisfy any romance cravings due to its emotional points in the plot and its exploration of interpersonal relationships. There are also PLENTY of females who are unique and incredibly well written. Even sjw tumblrinas agree that HxH does an incredible job showcasing realistic females without any cliche bullshit. Trust me, it will definitely satisfy.
Oh I thought we were having a genuine conversation. Ok then let's have fun using disingenius quote mines instead.
You literally said that you are a retarded child:
>I (...) am (...) a (...) reatarded (...) child
When was it stated that there are people running around with nukes up their asses or that this was even a viable means to defeat the super mega ants?
In fact, why were they so afraid of these ants in the first place? A bomb which was said to be relatively weak and cheap completely destroys them. Defeating them should've been a cakewalk. Were they all just too greedy to afford good bombs and that's why they bothered sacrifcing all those Nen users who are absolutely worthless compared to the technology that is available in that world? Just use some long distance rockets. Nah, even that's too much effort. They die due to radiation. So just send in some exterminators with radiation suits.
Kishi was mainly inspired by Tori's work. And Togashi used to make good stuff before that abomination. Not to mention that Kishi is a pretty shitty writer himself, so I don't know what your point was to begin with.
>Kite / Reina
>Elevator girl / Cocco
> Retz (Movie)
And that's only some of the ones in the anime, not manga.
Again, i already explained to you that you didn't need to explicitely say something to foreshadow it. You even admitted subtle hints was the definition, so at this point i am convinced are you are either actually retarded or that you're not even trying anymore with your shitposting.
And the whole point of the nuke was to show the ants never stood a chance against humanity, if you are only realizing this was a major theme just now you probably do have brain problems.
Merriam-Webster defines metaphor as "an object, activity, or idea that is used as a symbol of something else". That's exactly what it is.
Then what's the point of bringing it up at all if it doesn't illustrate your argument?
OK ANON HERE WE GO
This is Machi. She's the hottest and most baddast female and #1 waifu.
I wouldn't be so harsh on YYH. Plus the stuff he came up with later is much better, Level E is great and HxH is fantastic.
Plus Kishi was clearly inspired by Togashi when he wrote his exam even if it's also obvious he was highly inspired by DB.
Komugi is the sweet booger girl who steal hearts and changes the entire CA plot into a tragic love story
this is Palm in her sweet form. But don't be fooled!
Yeah, the whole point was to undo all the compltely unnecessary hype and fear mongering that dominated the entire arc. As I said: anticlimactic as fuck.
You could also get the same point across in a much better way. The ending of Parasyte the Maxim did a far better job at this. Good foreshadowing with the garbage truck as well as the woman saying that parasytes are fragile creatures and that they are underestimating humanity. None of that in HxH. Just "hurr durr I have a bomb up my ass deal with it". And no, some remarks here and there don't excuse a completely defeated man with no arms and legs having a fucking trump card out of nowhere. It's cheap, dumb, bad writing.
Best Palm is in her mermaid form. Really one of the most outstanding female character developments and a key element in the story arc.
Naruto is superior. Even if Kishi was 100% inspired by HxH, this doesn't mean that HxH is better. A painter can get inspired by a dog turt. That doesn't mean the dog turt is art.
This is Bisky or Biscuit. The most powerful female and cutest loli. Also Gon and Killua's master
im confused, how is him having no limbs relevant? the bomb detonates when his heart stops. youre reaching also comparing parasyte's lazy environmentalism message and one dimensional villains to chimera ant FAVORABLY is fucking stupid. ca is parasyte done right.
>Naruto is superior.
>the best and only good part is a carbon copy of one of the weakest HxH arcs
Shizuku is the quiet, smart, big tits one who is both sexy and cute
Now if you prefer spoiled brats, Neon is the absolute cutest. Although I prefer 1999 Neon, she's smart and totally has the hots for the spider's danchou
Now Zazan is a monster, that's true. But she'll tickle your hidden fetish for sure
The whole point is that the ants' perspective was skewed and they knew nothing of the world. You talk about hype like some autistic child.
The nuke was extensively but subtly foreshadowed so it didn't come out of nowhere, it was done really well. It also was a logical conclusion to Meruem's existential crisis and was all around great writing, even if your asspie ass can't catch a hint to save your life.
Then 1999 Shizuku is the one for you! Just imagine that hand around your anon cock
It's relevant because that hack writer did everything in his power to indicate that the old fart had no options left and was completely defeated just to hit us with his "epic twist" of "lol I have a bomb in my ass".
I guess I'll never take any fight or otherwise dangerous situation this idiot writes seriously because every character can have whatever tool he needs in his ass. He and his idiot fans apparently think that's clever writing.
>comparing parasyte's lazy environmentalism message and one dimensional villains to chimera ant
So this is why everybody hates HxH fags. Yeah sorry if that grinds your gears, but I find your kiddy shonen show to be extremely shallow and badly written.
This is Melody. Hey, at least she has a good personality...
Now Menchi is a bossy tsundere kitchen goddess who is so sexy, but looked better in 1999 as well.
Mito-san is kind, strong and motherly.. but technically not a mother so you can still get that mommy kink
>did everything in his power to indicate that the old fart had no options left and was completely defeated
He was laughing his ass off the entire time and Knov even said that no matter what the RG did they'd be too late, they even reinforced the notion that Netero knew he would die before the fight
>because every character can have whatever tool he needs in his ass
Isn't that the entire point of prep time, to stack odds in your favor? You're not very bright anon, i wouldn't quote you as an authority on what good writing is
characters have chemistry and play off each other well
in Shonen that's a god send
Reina-Kite tho. Such beauty. Such grace. She'll punch you in the face.
Amane is so cute! Choco loli's lesbian partner
Geru is elegant, slick, and you can probably park your car in her forehead
Now Spin ended up not having that big of a role in the anime series, but she's still mega cute! just look at her nails
Here's some 1999 Eeta & Elena for your twin fetishes
Are there really people who like these dirty thugs? They're like the ghetto trashes from the HxH world
Manlet edgelord uncharismatic Hiei ripoff
Dumb alzheimer autistic girl
Human monster, the only level-headed beside the boss
Retarded beast who's put down by a novice
Killua-like haircut and wears adidas clothings, and let their killers live
Street rat who's killed taking a crap
Useless Samurai 4M EN
and pseudo charismatic gothic asshole still looking for his own identity
the only worthy ones are shota trap, manchild and mummy, hope hisoka kills them all
Alluka! Pat her head! Wanna find out if she really is a girl? Then she might ask for more than just your hand's fingernail..
Who doesn't love puppies? Cheadle is best dog girl
>complaining about powerlevels
You are a literal retard. It was made apparent throughout the whole fucking series that winning a fight depends on how creative you are with your powers. Even morel straight up states this.
And don't even bother bringing chimera ant arc into this. It wasn't about powerlevels and if you missed the fucking point then you are retarded.
If you want to shit on powerlevels go look at fairy tail, naruto, or whatever other shonenshit you can think of.
nya~n! Pitou will actually make you fall for a generic cat girl before you even realize you're a fag now
Hina's voice was annoying but she was seriously underrated in terms of cuteness. If you got a preggo kink, she'll do as well
Just don't get attached to Ponzu for too long
If you can't stand looking at Pakunoda's face either, her tits are there for a reason! But she actually is one of the most captivating characters that will melt your heart with kindness
Announcer girl Cocco made the heaven's arena arc worth it
Cluck's character design is beautiful because everything else about her is shit
Honestly if Baise's kiss powers didn't exist, then the 2011 anime wouldn't be attracting as many killuaxgon fags as it does..
And if all the anime girls aren't enough, non-canon Retz is here for your doll loli interests
First of all I'm not complaining.
>And don't even bother bringing chimera ant arc into this. It wasn't about powerlevels and if you missed the fucking point then you are retarded.
It's about the lengths humanity will go to protect itself when it encounter a species that could easily wipe it out. How does that not involve power levels at least on a narrative level?
The amount of retardations in this thread is appalling me beyond belief. Virtually all of these "criticisms" come from people who didn't have the patience to watch the show and thus ended up misunderstanding a whole lot.
>implying that any amount of dexterity, especially in a fantasy world that tries to be realistic, would allow you to kill people with cards
>being this retarded
He still has to throw them with great accuracy and skill, nen only told us how the f those cards were strong enough to pierce human bodies to begin with.
Refer to above reply. Superhuman physical strength and speed were always implied to be just that, physical, but there is no way cards could ever be thrown and be able pierce opponents without some other unexplained element. Also, he is called "the Magician." That implies extra-physical powers are at play in this universe. Also that scene when Hisoka is letting out his bloodlust during the penultimate Hunter exam stage and clearly something supernatural is happening.
Someone else is feeling as frustrated as me as well, thank god.
Not even going to link to it
The fucking fuck is wrong with HxH threads.
It's all shit flinging retard, baiters, manga facists and shitposters. I admit to watching 2011 first, not knowing the history of the book or knowing the creator made YuYu until like the 3rd season. Loving the design of the characters, their abilities, the creatures that inhabit the world and the power system of nen, and with all the content of not only the anime of either adaptation, but the fucking thousands of panels. But no, you all have to shit on all of it due to your fucking wait for the hiatus and your self indulgence.
meant arc, just want to make sure you fags don't deviate from the point.
Because a bomb is distinctly separate to the entire concept of power levels. Same with board games, yet those things defeated the most physically and magically powerful being of the arc.
Not the anon you were replying to, but I thought about this when they introduced her as well. Merely the fact that she is a very obvious cat girl makes her appearance "generic," because cat girls and how they look and act are pretty solidly in our collective subconsciousness at this point. However, Togashi wrote her (Pitou is a girl fuck you) so well that she is worthy of our attention as a great character.
The majority of media is crap. Film, television, music, books, doesn't matter. Most of it is shit. However there's a lot of it, crazy amounts to consume, so even if only some of it's good, that's still a lot of good shit.
My point is that you can't describe it without using the words"physically and magically powerful". I'm not trying to argue that HxH has a rigid power hierarchy that dictates its storytelling, that's stupid and honestly I'm extremely thankful it doesn't. What I'm saying is that the main motivation for the events of the CA arc is that humanity considered ants a threat, the reason behind that being ants were far and away more powerful than almost all humans. In other words, ants have a higher power level than humans, and lost in spite of this. Saying that HxH doesn't have power levels at all (note:I'm not accusing you of doing this) is like denying one of its core themes, that there's more to achieving victory than seeming more powerful.
This guy gets it. It's probably not a coincidence that Meruem looks like Cell. Togashi wanted to set your expectation for what kind of character he would be, and the payoff comes when you compare Meruem's death to Cell's death.
Am I missing something here? It seems like >>144423829 is referring to you and your insistence on power level as the people who don't understand Meruem.
You're obviously just applying an overly broad definition to the term. It has a specific meaning in the context of battle shounen, and that meaning doesn't apply to CA arc.
>You're obviously just applying an overly broad definition to the term. It has a specific meaning in the context of battle shounen, and that meaning doesn't apply to CA arc.
You're probably right. Admittedly I only read all of HxH in the last couple weeks. Before this thread I wasn't aware the term was so stigmatized around these parts. I guess I'll follow the old rule and lurk moar.
Not that guy, but I've argued similar concepts, so I'll play devils advocate while being largely ignorant of the series:
Why even write it into the story? It's not needed? Who cares if it's "needed" when it's only written to be needed?
You might be onto something here.
Well your analysis is spot on, you just came to the opposite conclusion. I guess you could think of it like a comment on powerlevels in battle shounen, it does explore the idea but in the end rejects it.
>95% of this thread
He always had is own life and goals he was trying to accomplished, I don't see how kurapika putting himself before Gon's ( who did it to himself and had a billion niggas in his corner already) is edgy.
I gave up with this current arc (in the manga). It's incredibly poorly paced so far. I've just lost all interest and it's just repeating the same shit that every shonen does, introducing a bunch of new characters and dividing the focus between said characters very badly.
she can soothe my flute, if you know what I mean
Not got lie, first nine chapter of DC was flaming hot doo doo for me, (Hisoka vs Chrollo saved it with that trash ass fight) but I kinda wanna see the fall out if it means the kills are plentiful and divided evenly between protagonist and antagonist.