Dragonball Super Manga chapter 14 is out

>>144356663
Except

> Piccolo vs Frost
> Vegeta v Magetta
> Goku v Hit

were all better in the anime

>>144356957
This.

>>144356957
I prefer both Piccolo vs Frost and Vegeta vs Magetta in the manga. Piccolo vs Frost in the anime was just odd - with everyone saying that Piccolo was weaker than Frost while Piccolo blocked Frost's attacks with a single hand and his antenna beams were enough to neutralize Frost's attacks.

Vegeta vs Mageta - I was just annoyed by the anime's attempt to add drama to a joke battle where Vegeta was heavily holding back. I guess if you enjoy the drama it's fine, but one can't help but think that he could have finished that in a second by using SSJB in the anime.

Goku vs Hit in the anime was better though.

>>144355839
>http://blog.yuncomics.com/archives/1729043
That's not the complete chapter, is it? No ending message at the end and the pages seem to be skipped if you follow the numbers.

...are...we just getting the first 3 pages storytimed?

>>144355839
Is that bra? Wtf is The fat lady saying?

>>144357360
That's loli Bulma, she's saying if she had died as a child Vegeta wouldn't marry her and thus Trunks wouldn't exist

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>>144357083
Piccolo v Frost (manga) treated Piccolo like fodder.

At least the anime made it seem like he had a chance until Frost cheated.

>>144357409
Why does she feel the need to explain that?

>>144357531
Probably as a lazy way to introduce the audience to alternate realities since this is the gist of this arc

>>144355839
>http://blog.yuncomics.com/archives/1729043
>>144357327
nope it's not skipped any page, just missing few at the end.

>>144356062
T-TORIYAMA!!!!

>>144358078
>T-TOYBLE!!

Fix'd that for you

>>144355839
As always the Manga is better than the Anime. Fucking Toei why can't you do anything right?

>>144357469
He should be "fodder" if they're facing someone who could face current base Goku though, even if he was tired. He still managed to make the battle drag on and give him problems.

The anime was just nonsense, with the characters saying that he was weak, but then Piccolo somehow doing better than Frost, but in spite of that still refused to attack him directly and charging the Makankosappo like an idiot even though he should be able to win without it.

>>144358293

See:
>>144356957

>>144358306
Piccolo just does raw Makankossapos once he got strong enough to not need to charge it. He does a full open palmed one against Nappa in the manga.

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>>144358306
> The anime was just nonsense, with the characters saying that he was weak, but then Piccolo somehow doing better than Frost

That only means they underestimated Piccolo.

The anime version of that fight treated Piccolo better, and actually felt like a fight. The manga version was quick and boring.

>>144358722
>Piccolo having trouble with a Zarbon-level enemy
>Not a joke

Lol

>>144358790
Did they mean in strength or in rank?

>>144358722
>That only means they underestimated Piccolo.
If they were underestimating Piccolo, why didn't he just drop the charging bit and kick the crap out of Frost? The whole battle flow doesn't make sense, since the way Piccolo stops Frosts' attacks only works if he's stronger than Frost, but Piccolo's strategy seems to be made around the idea that he's weaker than Frost

And if he's stronger than Frost how the hell did he get to almost god level out of nowhere?

>>144358582
Vegeta Vs Magetta was just him flying all over the place with bad animation

Picollo Vs Frost ok i'll give you that

Gokus Vs Hit same as the first, lame animation except for those 10 seconds. And the asspull was terrible.

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>>144356957
No they weren't, everything has been better in the manga by a lot, especially Hit vs. Goku, since there was no asinine "HEH, I NEVER TRIED TO GET STRONGER BEFORE SO I GUESS I WILL. OKAY I'M STRONGER NOW GG EZ"

>>144358790
The line didn't reference strength directly, and Shisami wasn't even supposed to be part of Freeza's army at that point in Toriyama's script. Blame the stupid director who cut Shisami's story from the script and jammed him into Tagoma's introduction senselessly.

>>144358930
The tournament fights in general were mostly poor and not well thought out. Hit's fight made little sense, and in the anime there were even some crazy direction/continuity errors like during Goku's huge Kamehameha.

>>144359003
>Toriyama's a good boy he dindu nuffin

I don't care who's to blame, the result is the result.

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>>144358790
> Piccolo having trouble with a Zarbon-level enemy

Sorbet mentioned to Freeza, right after his initial revival, that Tagoma and Shisami rivaled Zarbon and Dodoria "at their peaks" (whatever that means...maybe that they used to be much stronger than they were in Namek?)

THEN Freeza and his men trained, so Shisami got a lot stronger since Sorbet made that comment.

Please...as if post-RoSaT training (Cell Saga), post Buu Saga Piccolo would have trouble with Zarbon/Dodoria

>>144358930
They underestimated him, but not to the point where Piccolo would be completely outclassed by Frost.

In the manga, Piccolo was completely outclassed. The anime gave him some spotlight which I can appreciate.

>>144359546
>THEN Freeza and his men trained, so Shisami got a lot stronger since Sorbet made that comment.
What so Shisami was also a freezer bullshit "lol 4 months because I never trained in my life" enemy?

The manga art actually looks pretty competent and it feels like Toriyama didn't lose his old-school aesthetic sense; why are people watching the anime and endlessly bitching about how it looks instead of reading the manga?

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>>144358965
Vegeta v Magetta felt like an actual fight in the anime

The manga just made it into a quick gag.

>>144359830
It's not even drawn by tori. Also the manga is just a TL;DR version and is way behind the anime anyway

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>>144358976
Goku v Hit was much better

> felt more tense
> no bs ritual-less SSG
> had SSB Kaioken
> explained why Goku wouldn't combine Kaioken + SS this whole time

In the manga, it was more or less just another regular battle

>>144359911
Who's drawing it then? It looks pretty good.

>>144360090
>>144359911
Nevermind I'm a lazy shit https://www.mangaupdates.com/authors.html?id=19720

>only draws Dragonball stuff

welp

>>144359704
No.

Shisami started off from an unspecified point (Zarbon/Dodoria "at their peak") to training with Freeza and his men...which in the anime made Tagoma much stronger.

Regardless, Piccolo was stronger anyway...Piccolo told Gohan "he had him".

>>144359874
>Vegeta v Magetta felt like an actual fight in the anime
I don't think it's a positive though. They drag on a battle where Vegeta was heavily holding back for two episodes in spite of it clearly being a big joke considering its ending?

>>144359830
It's not drawn by Toriyama,it's drawn by Toyotarō but Toriyama says he's the best person to imitate his art.

>>144360090
Toyble is drawing it. Author of a Dragon Ball AF doujin. He's using Toriyama's notes, just like Toei is.

>>144359830
Would you prefer to read a book or the sparknotes version of it?

The manga was introduced as basically an ad for the anime, and to hype it.

>>144359874
>>144358965
That does not look like bad animation

I think Super is a visual downgrade from the 80s/90s stuff but for totally different reasons than what people claim. The lines look like they're drawn with... whatever program they're using's equivalent of the Flash line tool which makes everything look stiff and removes any variety in line thickness; the colors are also really garish and feel like a misunderstanding of the old anime's aesthetic which was actually a great example of the 80s "everyone in Japan loves Moebius" look.

I remember when I was 13 and DBZ was my go-to example of "bad cheap looking anime" but in retrospect the art direction was pretty fucking ace compared to every recent popular shonen anime I can think of that isn't Mob Psycho:

https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/16889/animated-dragon_ball_series-dragon_ball_z-effects-

https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/17336/animated-artist_unknown-dragon_ball_series-dragon_

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>>144355839
>>144357409
>Kid Trunks' teacher follows up with a lesson on "parallel worlds". It's kinda morbid... To explain the theory, she says a boy (A-kun) wants to take rice bean cakes back to his younger mother, but she chokes on them and dies in the "parallel world". So now there would be a timeline where his mother doesn't exist and the boy isn't born. However the original mother and child remain fine. That lesson was from a college textbook that she had on accident though...they were supposed to be doing math. So, everyone, what's 10-3=?

doesn't he have a great teacher?

>>144360260
We all know it's actually Garland...wherever they are...

>>144360459
That's true. I love Hero Academia and especially the art in the manga but fuck. The lighting, the color direction, a lot of it is REALLY bad sometimes. Like during action scenes everything gets kinda muted and muddy looking for some reason. Or the early scene where Bakugou tells the MC to kill himself and it's a happy bright sunny day with lighthearted music.

>>144360486
I want to plow that teacher.

>>144355839
I like that Jaco and Tights are there. I want Future Trunks to meet his aunt.

>>144355839
It would be nice if shit is translated (or at least kept in original moonrunes) than in dog-eating runes

At least I can read somewhat read moonrunes

>>144362261
you go anon

>>144357083
I think Toyotaro fucked up most of the battles in the tournament except Gokuvs Botamo, Goku vs Frost and Vegeta vs Cabbe

>>144355839
Holy shit why is Mai so badass

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>>144366322
Those were the only fights that were better in the manga.

The rest were better in the anime

>>144360349
the last few sentences says all.

>>144366795
This picture shows the reason I actually like kid Trunks a lot more than adult Trunks.

>>144366770

Mai and Shu have always had habilities and usually did all of Pilaf's dirty work.

What happens is that their comic relief powers prevented them to be badass.

>>144355839
I just found out that this is only first half of the chapter, the next will come later probably. they didn't get the whole thing yet looks like.

>>144369108
It's probably gonna end with Black showing his face

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>>144369200

Guys, what if the next F. Trunks flashback is him proposing to Mai, before the blackening started?

>>144369200
I also think so.
>Black: Today is the day when you ll stop breathing
>end

>>144369108
It's not supposed to be out until the 21st of July apparently. Looks like someone was hastily sneaking out pages at work.

Just wondering now how well Toyotaro can write the romance.

>>144369787
>Today
>Next Month
Eh same thing

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>>144369786
I can see that happening.

>>144369874
not today but I expect very soon, in a few days.

>>144369200
him blasting Mai and revealing himself will be the chapter end.

>>144369941
And the one in the episode after that has Mai tell him she's pregnant. But it's obvious she lost it due to Black's reign of terror.

>>144369941

Sauce please?

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>>144369786
>>144370014

>>144370363
http://ruf1ohn1tram.tumblr.com/tagged/Trunks-x-Mai

>>144370507
by TFS

>>144370014
>implying her saiyan fetus didn't protect her

>>144370603
Thanks, man.

Kinda refreshing to see some Tumblrfags that are not complaining over this ship.

>>144370615
It couldn't help it. It's just perfect for reactions.

>We don't see it in the manga version, but future Bluma still died in the process of charging the time machine. She and Trunks were going to activate a solar generator, but I don't know if the time machine is electric or if that was to produce whatever the fuel is. Regardless, the time machine is charged enough for a one way trip, just like the anime.

>The manga has Jaco specifically remind everyone that time travel splits the timeline to create a "parallel world". He brings it up because he heard from Tights that Bluma was doing "dangerous" research and wanted to remind her time travel is a crime. Bluma says most of her research now is beauty based. The "other stuff" is for the future, which they won't need if peace continues.

>Kid Trunks' teacher follows up with a lesson on "parallel worlds". It's kinda morbid... To explain the theory, she says a boy (A-kun) wants to take rice bean cakes back to his younger mother, but she chokes on them and dies in the "parallel world". So now there would be a timeline where his mother doesn't exist and the boy isn't born. However the original mother and child remain fine. That lesson was from a college textbook that she had on accident though...they were supposed to be doing math. So, everyone, what's 10-3=?

>Bluma asks Whis about when he reversed time with Freeza, wondering if there's a "parallel world" where the tyrant still lives. Whis says that's not changing the past, but simply "redoing". After using it, the "time base" switches out so it can't be used again for a while. (Don't ask what that is. No idea.)

>>144370658
I can only hope. F Trunks needs at least one thing to go right for him in that shitshow that is his life.

>>144371252
>not even a scene of Bulma getting BLACKED in the manga version
Why do people defend this piece of garbage Toyble fanfiction again?

Even Toriyama himself confirmed that he told Toyble to make up his own shit to make it different from his original script. This makes Toyble's adaptation a literal fanfiction.

>>144371327
>Even Toriyama himself confirmed that he told Toyble to make up his own shit to make it different from his original script.
The implication of Toriyama suggesting that Toyotaro should add more original material in the interview is that he was actually sticking too close to the outline - which likely explains why some scenes are very detailed and others are very rushed.

Either way, everything still passes by Toriyama, page by page, before final art and publication.

>>144371461
He stopped being faithful 10 chapters ago when Toriyama told him to do his own shit.
It's why everything in the manga is inferior to the anime so far.

>>144371327
The scene with Mai afterwards was way better.

>>144371517
>The scene with Mai afterwards was way better.
But it's pretty much identical to the anime, the Mai scene I mean. So what the fuck are you on about?

>>144371496
>He stopped being faithful 10 chapters ago when Toriyama told him to do his own shit.

Nah. There are still many scenes with shared dialogue between the anime and manga, and the manga so far hasn't added stuff that just dig holes in Toriyama's outline unlike the anime (like Gohan and Piccolo's training or introducing a big power up for Goku only to have to make it unusable right afterwards).

>>144371655
The actual execution of the scene.

>>144361676
>Like during action scenes everything gets kinda muted and muddy looking for some reason.
Epilepsy prevention, should be removed in the BDs

>>144371655
The consoling hug

>>144371073
It's a pretty popular pairing right now, so even some fujoshits/tumblrfags like it.

>>144360258
>holding back
>bad

well it IS a tournament meaning that going all out in every single fight would be retarded

>>144367284
not really, that's as ambiguous as it gets

>>144372988
This. Only Pan and Gotenfags are being assblasted about it.

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Man i wasn't ready for this. Future Trunks had a hard life.

>>144358722
Isn't the manga a bit closer to Toriyama's overall vision?

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Korean Maifu

>>144375997
DELET THIS

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>>144375997
>>144376159
Still better than American.

>>144375997
Shoulder pads for days

>>144375231
no

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SOON.

>>144377009
If Trunks or Vegeta don't beat Black, i swear i'm gonna write so many angry post on the internet.

>>144376281

This Mai is like the fusion between her and the William sisters from Tekken.

>>144376281
That ain't Mai that's a godless abomination.

Shit, i wanted to see Toyotaro's take on Trunks SS2, guess i'll have to wait next month.

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>>144379827
At best we might get something close to this

>>144379827
I think the chapter is still missing the last pages.

Are any of the sub groups besides dragonteam worth a shit?

>>144382089
I watch the InfernoZ sub, it's Dragonball you don't really need a 1 for 1 translation.

>>144382089
PafuSubs is pretty okay. They fuck up with the translation sometimes, but it's nothing too bad. They are the fastest to come out too.

>>144366770
She stopped hanging out with Pilaf and Shu.

>>144370507
I would love if Vegeta goes this mad against Black

>>144376954
I thought he looked at Toyotaro's work before it becomes the final product though. That's more than what he does for Super I'm guessing.

>>144390572
you guessed wrong

>>144355839
It is more like dragon super duper inconsistent am i right?

>>144390688
why?

>>144356062

Fuck me I wish we saw that in the Anime.

>>144370615

And?

The only fight who was better in the anime was Hit vs Goku. It felt more intense and important.
But man, I miss Toriyama's art. Toyotaro is good but it's not his own style, he's imitating and that's a bit sad because he seems to be good.

>>144360459
This. Old school DB and anime in general were felt more alive because the lines were human made.

>>144360349
I honestly thought toriyama was the one who draws the manga, the guy imitates his style very well
the anime guys are crap

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>>144362261

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>>144393717
The manga is pretty great

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>you'll never know how an official female SSJ4 looks like

>>144355839
THE 2ND PART OF THE MANGA IS HERE
http://blog.yuncomics.com/archives/1729679

>>144358976
B-b-but muh increased time skip

>>144393717
Toriyama lost his luster. He used to be much better than this guy but no longer is.
Not that this guy is bad at all. But Toriyama was orgasmic.

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>>144369200

>>144396412
I pains me how better Trunks looks here compared to Super.

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"I just died in your arms tonight"

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Mai's pretty badass

>>144396412
today you'll take your final breath.
>just as I said about ending

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Trunks' checking Mai's shotgun

>>144396430
"now she's gone even though I hold her tight"

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>>144396523

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They were so close to leaving in the manga

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>>144396529
"oh where, oh where could my baby be? Goku Black took her away from me"

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R.I.P Maifu

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I prefer it this way

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>>144397060
No direct hit by the blast but.. nasty fall and landing. To think she actually survives this. Those comic relief powers in full effect.

>>144397269
Well the fall in the anime was worse

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>>144397816
more dramatic and better landing though

>>144397269
>>144397816
>>144399029
It's all because of that Saiyan fetus inside her

>>144399029
>Slow mo
>More dramatic

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>>144399029

>>144396430
Damn it should have been like that in the anime too.

If you still believe the Anime is better than the Manga go rot in hell

>>144402580
Kill Yourself

>the 2nd part >http://blog.yuncomics.com/archives/1729679

>>144405049
Its the truth animefag face it

>>144371252
>In order to make sure he can return to the same Parallel World he created last time, Trunks keeps the settings of the time machine the same as the last time he used it...since Bluma is no longer around to tinker with it anymore. Thus explaining why he chose to go back 17 years again.

>Trunks mentions Black has leaned the Earthling trait of ki sensing, which segues into Whis mentioning that Earthlings like to fight with ki control (something he noticed in Goku's fight with Hit). Whis notes such a thing can be an advantage, but over reliance on can be just as bad (a disadvantage).

>Same revelation about there having previously been 18 Universes. Nothing about whether the 6 missing ones were wiped out at once, over time, or whatever.

>Toyotaro works in a line about Jaco changing his spaceship to the one Toriyama designed for the anime (almost certainly because Toriyama's design wasn't done back when he started adapting the Champa Arc). It was a bribe from the Galactic King to keep the events of the Hakaishin Invitational a secret (Hit's Time Skip).

>Nothing much after that. Mai is a bit more suicidal, directly asking Black to kill her first for the sake of the distraction. Also, Black refers to Trunks by name, right off the bat. None of the just calling him "Saiyan" stuff.

>>144405361
>skipping the assassination of Bulma
>better

Nope

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>>144356062

>Mai hugs him

based Toyble

>>144405548
>>144356062
>I will never be hugged by Mai

Fuck my life.

>>144396412
Perfect

>>144405376
>Mai is a bit more suicidal, directly asking Black to kill her first for the sake of the distraction.

What the fuck.

>>144396428
he looks the same retard

>>144405929
Well, Mai knows her role is to help Trunks reach the time machine. She knows he is the one who must survive, not her. She is ready to die for the cause.
I wonder if she will survive in the manga, though. It looks like her body is close to a fire from this pic >>144397090 . Maybe she will only survive in the anime.

The manga might actually be good if it wasn't fucking 3 weeks behind every time.

The anime even had the Jelly Vegeta arc and the manga is still behind.

>>144406093
>Maybe she will only survive in the anime.

This is actually pretty important unlike the other minor changes Toyble has done (unless you count Kaioken but we're never going to see it again in the anime so whatever).

>>144406093

Still, her survival in the Anime gives Trunks a real reason to want to go back and kill Black. With his world as fucked as it is, it almost seems pointless to want to save it if there's nothing left to save. He needs that personal motivation as well.

I'm calling it right now, Black is going to be to Zamasu what Krillin was to Goku back during Roshi's training. Both were training to become Kaioshin's of U10 but Black got mad that Zamasu came in with his Gary-Stu prodigy powers and decided to go steal the time ring and go rogue.

>>144406093
>Maybe she will only survive in the anime.
that just seems like too big a change..

Maybe Trunks transforming blows her body further away or something?
I guess we'll have to wait another month to see what happens to her body.

>>144406666
That would be interesting, but why do Zamasu and Black have similar ki signatures?

Has anyone is Dragonball ever had similar ki signatures

>>144408647
Cell

>>144405548
>Yamcha/Mai
kek, what a godawful pairing

>>144408647
>>144409135
If that's the case then Zamasu not being Black or not being tied to his existence wouldn't make much sense.

>>144396120
not including this in the anime is the worst thing they did so far.

not retelling. not QUALITY. not Goku being a drooling retard and everyone else being irrelevant again. Including this could've saved so much, yet they did nothing. Fuck.

it's probably going to take the manga two or three months to reach the point where we are in the anime now, isn't it?

>>144409767
No they're did two episodes worth of the anime in this episode in chapter

>>144358976
>"HEH, I NEVER TRIED TO GET STRONGER BEFORE SO I GUESS I WILL. OKAY I'M STRONGER NOW GG EZ"
Lmao nothin personel kid

>>144390688
You're wrong you retard. We have literal proof showing that Toriyama goes over each issue correcting things before it's released.

>>144409625
>not including this in the anime is the worst thing they did so far.

I haven't read the Super manga, what is the scene in the quote about?

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>>144412564
Vegeta and Goku train together

>>144405522
it's in the next chapter, it's not skipped

>>144355839
>Black can go SSJ
What the fuck?

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>>144413480
I think that's just the wind blowing up his hair

>>144405376
>In order to make sure he can return to the same Parallel World he created last time, Trunks keeps the settings of the time machine the same as the last time he used it...since Bluma is no longer around to tinker with it anymore. Thus explaining why he chose to go back 17 years again.


So, how old does that make Future Trunks now when he's coming back?

>>144414697
He probably push a button that says to the future

>>144401008
she got some nice tiddies

>>144396459
>Laser weapon is ineffective
So it's not Goku.

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>>144415783
Well the laser weapon harmed Goku because he put his guard down, as has happened before.

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>>144414938
>she got some nice tiddies
she always had those. Mai just doesn't do much fan service aside from that DB scene with the pink nightgown. So. You don't get to see much

>>144358930
>And if he's stronger than Frost how the hell did he get to almost god level out of nowhere?
Again with your shitty fanfiction. Frost
, Cabba and Magetta weren't Buu tier, idiot.

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>>144416197

>>144360200
If Frieza's men can get at SSJ levels just by training 4 month, why do they need him in the first place? They wanted him because the rebels killed half the army.
Movie and Super depoweref Piccolo too much.

>>144375997
>>144376281
Still shit. I want a pretty girl that doesn't look artificial with all the makeup.

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>>144416657

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>>144416197
even in Trunks's fantasy. She wears a knit sweater that shows nothing. Guess that's in-character though

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>>144416778
Mai is a beauty, Trunks needs a beauty girl to make the most beautiful children in the universe.

>>144416959
that was definitely not a lust driven fantasy though.

the 2nd part of manga http://blog.yuncomics.com/archives/1729679

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>>144416994

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>>144416959
>>144417096
of course not. never said it was.
Just pointing out how modest Mai tends to dress

>>144417461
HNNNNGGGGGGG
Mai looks so cute with that outfit. I want to take her home.

>>144417461
Pilaf's forehead though

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>>144417461

Any decent scanlation group going to pick this up? I can't stand niggerstream.

>>144418711
http://www.mangareader.net/dragon-ball-super

>>144357469
anime piccolo was a fucking retard that charged his fucking special beam cannon the entire map instead of using ANY other attacks.

and the fact he had to charge it at all was even bullshit since he eliminated that weakness by the time the saiyans arrived.

>>144419023
>ask for non mangastream
>gives me mangastrem

t-thanks

>>144359546
>except piccolo in the cell saga was already stronger than a basic super saiyan which was stronger than frieza was until he had trained.

piccolo never stopped training/meditating, so for him to struggle with that random henchman means that the henchman should've been stronger than frieza was when they brought him back with the dragonballs. of course, if he was at such a level, he likely would've realized this since they all have fucking scouters.

>>144419199
http://m.mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball_chou/

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>>144417319

>>144408647
Super Saiyans, too. That's why Gohan thought SS Trunks was Goku when he first showed up.

>>144396412
so is that future Goten?

>>144414697
It is currently around year 780
Which means Future Trunks came from around 797
He was born 766
Plus 2 years in the Time Chamber
so he's 33.

>>144421933
No

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>>144414938
>>144416197

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>>144423576

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>>144423576
that just reminds me of pilaf's reaction to trunks in BoG

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>>144423796
>>144423576
>>144423091
>>144416197
they need to bring back the pink nightgown

>>144362261

Glad I'm not the only one.

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>>144423576
Thinking about this
>>144423656
with this face
I died

Better than the anime

>>144426681
Kill Yourself

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>>144423091
>>144424858

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>>144428280
>>144424858

>>144355839
More like "dragonball shit".

>>144417096
Yeah, it was more "I want to have a family too" than "I want to fuck that bitch" kind of fantasy.

>>144426681
this.

>>144419558
>http://m.mangafox.me/manga/dragon_ball_chou/
itćs still manga stream

>>144358930
>almost god level
>barely super saiyan 2 level

Frost was beaten easily by regular super saiyan. don't even know if that was 2 or not, still weak for today's standards

So does the manga follow the anime or the anime follow the manga?

>>144432708
None. Toriyama writes notes on how the plot should be, then both Toei and Toyotaro use his notes to make the anime and the manga. So they're just slightly different tellings of the same events.

Besides Goku, Bulma, or Trunks, is there anybody Vegeta feels an attachment to whatsoever?

>>144432933
I thought Toriyama at least observed Toyotaros manga more before it became a final product, at least reviewing the art/story before its published.

>>144417461
>knit sweater
>modest
oh boy it's lusty, Trunks was projecting his sweater fetish on his waifu

>>144433496
I bet he also gets briefed about the anime episode scripts before production

>>144433496
He does check it before it's published.

>>144432196
this.

>>144432933
>>144432708
exactly
it's two differrent stories, Toriyama send them the text, they expand it each on thier own way

>>144433496

He probably just gets more time to go through the manga because it's not in constant crunch time like any long-running anime.

Is this official or fanmade?

>>144435506
Official. It's not drawn by Toriyama though, he just makes a plot outline and oversees the storyboards.

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>>144429058
>that teddy bear

>>144435506
coloring is fanmade

>>144430652
Oh shit boys DBS BTFO

the name of OST at the begining / recap in trunks saga, anyone?

>>144438493
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZqYmj-fJPJMFs5gMHgrjNeBmj0p4NQVh

>>144439492
>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZqYmj-fJPJMFs5gMHgrjNeBmj0p4NQVh

thanks.

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>>144433617
>knit sweater
>modest
>oh boy it's lusty, Trunks was projecting his sweater fetish on his waifu

More his knit fetish. She already has a knit hat. Trunks imagines the knit sweater.
and just you wait... when this is over. He'll get her some knit pants too

>>144441345
He'll knit them himself

What do you tink happened to future
Pilaf and Shu ? It appears that she never talk about them. Witch is weird consider they are her best friends

>>144441980
Dead. Trunks also didn't recognize them.

>>144441980
Dead most likely, which is sad if you think about it.

>>144418711
Only mangastream and Viz does it. And Viz is only at issue 3.

niggastream will translate this on a weekend probably or even after.

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>>144441980
>>144442010
>>144442258
>Dead most likely, which is sad if you think about it.

Yeah. i really would be sad.
Perhaps that's why she went full force into the whole human resistance force stuff without caring much about losing her own life

>>144443218
Chances are they died during the cyborg reign though. What I want to know is if they have retconned Mai and Trunks into knowing each other before he went into the past the first time.

>>144421519
Puke.pjg

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>>144443283
>Chances are they died during the cyborg reign though

Perhaps. Regardless. Their death would force Mai to find a new purpose in life regardless.

Just wish we would of gotten a bit more back story on that. I guess they wouldn't want to show little Shu and Pilaf getting killed by the androids.

>What I want to know is if they have retconned Mai and Trunks into knowing each other before he went into the past the first time.

I doubt that. I still assume they just met in the year black started attacking

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>>144435662
Is it true that Toriyama is tired of dragonball so when he's tasked to do a new one he doesnt care if he makes a shitty plot?
Because i've been sensing that a lot ever since that Beerus movie

>>144443636
>I doubt that. I still assume they just met in the year black started attacking
Or in the aftermath of the cyborgs more likely

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>>144396459
>dat look on Trunks face
jesus christ

>>144443684
krillin you lucky bastard

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>>144443755
>Or in the aftermath of the cyborgs more likely
how would that be more likely?

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Blackened is the end
Winter it will send
Throwing all you see
Into obscurity

Death of Mother Earth
Never a rebirth
Evolution's end
Never will it mend, never

Fire, to begin whipping dance of the dead
Blackened is the end
To begin whipping dance of the dead
Color our world blackened

>>144370507

One of the best scenes from DBZ Abridged. Hilarious.

>>144444023
Because it was relative piece and people were rebuilding. They could have met while helping to rebuild a town. I doubt it was around the time the Blackening started, since in his fantasy he imagined a peaceful time with her and Bulma and thus would have known her well enough already to introduce her to his mother.

>>144444220
It's his voice actor that sells is.

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>>144443218
Yeah, that means besides Mai everyone from the original Dragon Ball is dead, unless Roshi, Puar and Oolong are still hiding.

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>>144444173
he can only imagine a happy ending...

>>144430652
wtf? I hate now dragon ball s

>>144444142
ow

>>144355839
why is it in korean?

>>144444379
>Roshi, Puar and Oolong still chilling at Kame House like nothing happens

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Is SSG more useless than SS3

>>144444390
>Nice rack
>Dem hips
>Modestly dressed
Why is Mai so best girl?

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Why can't they give 18/Lazuli more SoL moments?

If they're not gonna have her fight, at least give her this

>>144444717
> Why is Mai so best girl?
She has competition: 18, pre-housewife Videl, Vados

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>>144444173
Seriously now, that scene fucking killed me

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>>144421519

Did dbz have a bigger budget then super for the anime?

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The only way the next arc can 1-up the Future Trunks arc is by doing another fusion saga

>>144370615
>hating on TFS
fag

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>I was only 12 years old
>I loved Dragonball Z so much, I had all the merchandise, movies and games
>I raise my hands and give my energy to Goku every night, thanking him for saving the Earth
>”Goku is love” I say “Goku is life”
>My dad hears me and calls me a clown
>I knew he was secretly a Vegeta fan
>I call him a cunt
>He slaps me and sends me to bed
>I'm crying now and my face hurts
>I lie in bed and shudder
>I sense a massive power level coming towards me
>I feel something touch me
>It's Goku
>I'm so happy
>He whispers in my ear “I am the hope of the Universe”
>He forces me to my hands and knees with a Kaio-ken
>I'm ready
>I spread my cheeks for Goku
>He penetrates my butthole
>It hurts so much but I do it for Goku
>I feel my butt tearing as my eyes start to water
>I push against his force
>I want to please Goku
>He pushes his power even further and goes Super Saiyan
>He lets out a mighty roar as he empties his Dragon Balls and blasts his ki into my butt
>My dad walks in
>Goku looks him straight in the eye and says, “You were Saiyan?”
>Goku raises two fingers to his head and uses his Instant Transmission technique
>Goku is love, Goku is life

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>>144444286
>Because it was relative piece and people were rebuilding. They could have met while helping to rebuild a town.

Still doubt that. it just seems to me Trunks would mention them meeting before Black if they did.

>in his fantasy he imagined a peaceful time with her and Bulma and thus would have known her well enough already to introduce her to his mother.

That's just a fantasy though. Trying to imagine himself in Gohan's place.
Considering Mai and probably her resistance force was using capsule corp equipment. Bulma must likely was first introduced to Mai and co for supplies and they got to know each other better during the year

>>144444857
>Vados

Doesn't count. She is from the realm of the gods.

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>>144444975
Probably. The market is much different now than it was in the 90's, and they don't use traditional cel animation anymore.

Plus nowadays they outsource, treat their animators like slaves, etc

This is less of a DBS problem, and more of a Toei one. Or rather the anime industry as a whole.

#blackgokulivesmatter

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>>144445111
And she can kick your ass, and make fun of you for being chubby

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>>144444646
well no they were hiding out at sea

>>144445013
What happens if present Trunks and future Trunks fuse with the potara earrings?

>>144445475
The earrings probably wouldn't work...considering that they're both technically the same person

>>144445475
GT Trunks

Gohan will have relevance again, just like in cell saga

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>>144445696
So he'll get weaker and lose to someone like Android 17?

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>>144446035
Maybe they can introduce a "Joker" to his Great Saiyaman. Or a rival scholar...

That's the only way Gohan will be relevant. At least until he writes that Ki science book.

>>144446165
The price to pay for the time paradox

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So is the Tv special gonna be just a re airing of history of future trunks in blue or another special about before black appears?

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>>144446035

>>144447456
I'm assuming the former, but hoping for the latter

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>>144447456
I assume the first.

>>144447456
please be him fighting dabura then black appearing to fuck his shit up. would be nice as some sort of prequel.

So when did the Pilaf Gang wish for youth if Mai is a young adult again in the future trunks timeline?

>>144447729
During the timeskip before the cyborgs?

>>144447456
Hopefully SoH in better quality, Toei sucks at animating and creating original content. I can't believe they made Kyousogiga.

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>>144444679
No, because Goku took tons of hits from Beerus without being worse for wear in it while SSJ3 got taken out in two hits.

But seriously, immediately ditching it for SSB is the worst possible decision they could have made. Toriyama wanted to move away from the all "New new NEW form!" nonsense and made it even worse instead.

>>144447958
As long as they stay at SSB for a while it should be fine.

>>144448027
.yfw SSB 2 but with the extra lightning bolts and sharper hair

>>144447456
Wait there's a new TV special coming out?

>>144448217
Yes. or just a re airing of the old one

>>144448217
http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=de&rurl=translate.google.de&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http://www.db-z.com/dragon-ball-super-episode-special-trunks-futur/

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why is he so perfect bros?

>>144358306
Piccolo being near untransformed Goku isn't that ridiculous. People underestimate how fucking ridiculously good at training Piccolo is

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>>144448672
because he is doing justice

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>>144448672
>>144448750
just busy creating a utopia

>>144448855
He's not wrong

>>144448855
Why does Black's speech sound like the motivation of a Tails Gets Trolled villain?

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>>144446035
>Trunks Goku and Vegeta go to the future to fight Black
>Vegeta and Trunks fight Black while Goku mysteriously disappears
>Black kicks their asses, but before he can finish them off Goku returns, revealing he had left to go find Future New Namek, and gathered their Dragon Balls to wish back all the people killed by Black, as well as a few extras...
>Reveal that a certain someone has been training in Other World ever since he died...

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>>144445098

>>144449565
>future timeline
>no herecule's
>presumably dead.

>>144449565
I am fine with Future gohan being back

would be nice if he sees his other self being happy and he then cries like a good boy

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>>144449565

So, the manga or the anime?

>>144449982
I enjoy both, but if you're gonna watch the anima start at episode 28

>>144449982
Both, the anime is better than the manga at points and the manga is better than the anime at points.

http://www.db-z.com/dragon-ball-z-light-of-hope-2-trailer/

DBZ light of hope 2 movie

>>144450091
Take that shit to /tv/ or something.

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>>144450091
Damn finally...

Hope it's worth the wait

>>144450091
fucking HYPE

>>144397090

Did Toyotaro hire better assistants? The manga looks more detailed

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>>144449982
Manga has better art, but anime is better in general imho

The manga skips out on mostly all sol moments, no Pan episode, no SSB Kaioken, it'll most likely avoid the Gohan/Trunks episode, etc

It's like a sparknotes version of a book

...it also inexplicably made SSG into a ritual-less transformation

>>144450258
Just realized Future Bulma resembles Crono's mom and the NPC's of CT.

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>>144450046
Or better yet: Episodes 1 -2, 15-18, 28+

So you get all the new content, minus the movie re-tellings

>>144450307
Toyotaro is just better at gritty shit.

This is coming from the DBAF doujin author, and creator of "Xicor"

>>144450419
Perfect watch list

>>144450156
> triggered

>>144450156
>b-z.com/dragon-ball-z-light-of-hope-2-trailer/
you r right, but since this thread will soon close, there is no point.

>>144450307
manga was always better than anime.

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>>144423576
>>144423796
>>144424858

I just find hilarious the idea of Trunks being techinally also married/dating Pilaf and Shu just because he's dating/married Mai.