So which anime has worse cgi, Sidonia or Berserk?

>>144268646
Sidonia looked bad at times and good at others, the new Berserk anime has been a consistent level of shit

>>144268646
Berserk. It's actually shocking how bad the cgi is

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Berserk, because sidonia worked with its CGI, and had some cool looking scenes. It captured Nihei's style in a way that hand drawn couldn't.

Berserk has no idea what its doing with its CGI and is a mishmash of shitty CGI and almost decent hand drawn animation.

berserk is pure shit, sidonia's battle scenes were works of art

Apergio of blue see.

Waifus can't be CGI.

>>144268646
In the past 5 years, has there been a worse looking anime than berserk? Its literally shocking how horrible it looks, i thought it was just the cg but the rape horse scene showed their 2d animation is even worse. Queenbee hentai looks better than this shit

Sidonia was ok. Berserk is just bad on another level.

>>144269413
wasnt god eater pretty bad?

clangserk

>>144269033
The movies are looking pretty good right about now.

I can't believe Berserk is being made unironically
I had low expectations but I kept going what the fuck aloud repeatedly during the last episode
I couldn't even finish it after the rape horse scene

That shit looked worse than early PS2 games

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>>144268646
Berserk, Sidonia looked strange but at least the 3D for the mechs (which are hard to draw/keep on model) it made sense. Berserk 2016 has strange choices for what should be 3D, which is just about everything except for a few stills and maybe 3 seconds of animation. For things like carts and background characters sure it's not like they would have any distinct features anyway but for absolutely everything it's terrible.

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>>144269601
Sidonia was definitely a mixed bag. Most of the scenes with characters looked like something out of artificial academy, but all the battle scenes looked cool as shit

>>144268646
sidonia had pretty backgrounds and the characters looked fine when they werent moving to much.

Berserk. I'm going to post this every week until Berserk stops having horrible animation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go2FYOhipiE

>>144269413
Anohana?

>>144268646
if you dont like it, just keep waching sailor moon you fa ggets

>>144268646
Sidonia is 10 times better

>>144270084
Sailor Moon's animation is pretty bad too though

>>144269509
God Eater looked good.

>>144268646
Aside from the shitty frame rate and clunky animations, Sidonia was pretty good.

There isn't a single redeemable point in this new Berserk.

>>144268646
Sidonia's character scenes were bad, but the space combat scenes made really good use of CG

>>144269592
>The movies are looking pretty good right about now.
Better comparatively but definitely not good.

>>144270208
this.

and even if they were bad, they weren't horrendously bad like Berserk's

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>>144270267
true, but still, I'd prefer the animation we saw in the movies over this fucking shit

>>144268646

Berserk
Its just shit

>>144270267
It looked fine to me, especially that third movie.

>>144269413
I'm trying hard to try and prove you wrong but I can't.
I wanna say ninja slayer or inferno cop, but those choices were intentional

>>144270208
Sidonia and Berserk have the same sound director.

The sound directing in Sidonia was fukin amazing.

In berserk, it's really bad.

>>144270361
That's from some phone game right? They couldn't possibly see this and thought it was ok? Right?

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>>144268646

>>144270476
pupa?

I don't think there's even a debate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiZJkYg4n1E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDIcQrEhrLM

Sidonia has the benefit of having mecha and rather well done CG mecha at that so even if the humans looked a little weird, it gets by because the CG on the mecha didn't look like shit. Berserk is just a mistake

>>144270640
you're shitting me, the sound was my favorite part of sidonia. All the noises during the mech fights legitimately gave me an erection.

>>144270725
I barely remember what it looked like, but I think the problem with that one was its story wasn't it?

Kingdom S1 was atrocious.

>>144270676
The teeth, just look at the teeth. This looks like a game from the 90's.

>>144268646
Berserk CGI is a lot, lot worse.

Sidonia actually actually had some good looking scenes(spacebattles, backgrounds)

Berserk finds new ways to look awful every episode.

>>144270662
It's not even worst looking scene in new Berserk anime.

>>144270792
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=979
>Fate/Zero (TV) : Sound Director
>Fate/Zero (TV 2) : Sound Director
>Knights of Sidonia: Battle for Planet Nine (TV) : Sound Director
>>>Berserk (TV 2016) : Sound Director

The one without clang and early PS2 graphics

>>144269509
What, it's literally cgi done right, but hand drawn will be always better

>>144271186
you know the funny thing is that the berserk ps2 game actually looked better than the new anime

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Sidonia was interesting enough for me to ignore the CGI so I wasn't fazed.

>>144271286
What're you implying? that Berserk isn't interesting?

>>144271167
I did a quick search, and not IMDB nor MAL have him listed as working on Berserk. So I dunno, maybe he is, maybe he is not.

I am more surprised that Shiro Sagisu is doing the music, and with the fact that it sounds pretty bad. He is known to have so-so tracks, but after his work on Rebuilds I would have assumed the ost would be better.

>>144268646
You guys are retarded. Who cares how the anime looks. This wasn't created for people who did not follow the Berserk manga.

Those of us watching it now will enjoy it for what it is. I'm just happy some people cared enough to provide me with something. Seeing these fights animated brings back memories.

Anyone who doesn't appreciate this for what it is are not true Berserk fans.

>>144271443
>BaitFish.jpg

>>144271443
I reread berserk once a year, and even I had to drop this shit. I'm actually wondering who the new anime was made for, cause it feels like a slap in the face to the fans.

>>144271562
>who the new anime was made for,
new readers

>>144271327
No I'm saying Sidonia was interesting enough for me to ignore the ugly CGI, I'm not watching Beserk.

>>144268646
???sidonia had amazing cg

>>144271562
ill take anything berserk related, even if its SFM garbage. Bad CGI Berserk is better than No Berserk.

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>>144271719
>mfw studio fow can produce better looking animation than Berserk

>>144271719
"Better than nothing" -Inafune.

I don't know. What is the purpose of the new anime?

>>144271719
No it isn't at all

The biggest problem problem with Berserk 2016 is that it doesn't have the the same atmosphere as the the Berserk Manga.
The original anime also had a pretty low budge and crappy animation at times, but it captured the atmosphere of the series perfectly, it really felt like a Berserk.

This new adaptation is just a joke in every aspect.

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>>144271818

>>144268646
Berserk has bad visual and meh sound, Sidonia has good at times visual and fucking great sound.

>your green hair waifu grew a dick

>>144271915
>is that it doesn't have the the same atmosphere as the the Berserk Manga.
^This.

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why can't cgi anime look like this?

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why the fuck they don't put nipples?

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>>144268646
Having to drop Berserk just cause you can't take it anymore.

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Ill literally buy the blu-rays if they nail this scene, which they probably wont but a man can hope.

>>144272020

They're there, you can see the outline of them against the ground in a few shots. Probably will be in the Blu Ray release.

>>144272030
Pussy

>>144272048
I don't know how to tell you this, but they skipped that entire arc
they went straight to the second eclipse arc

>>144272048
THere is no LOST CHILDREN. Why can't understand?

>>144272048
HHAHAH lel sorry to tell you, but...

Berserk Berserk Berserk

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>>144272135
>new berserk anime announced
>actually takes place after the golden age
>get completely hyped for the lost children arc
>they skip it

>>144271998
Video Game animators have way more experience in animating in 3D and those victory scenes that are very brief compared to a 25 minute long episode

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>>144272094
This episode was just the last straw man i mean really.

>>144272192
Lost Children arc is too edgy. It can't be done, at least as a TV series.

>>144268969

This.

CGI Anime is always criticised, at some time quite unfairly - there has been decent progress, and recent full-length shows like Ajin and Bubuki are shaky and look weird at times, but show a clear sign that this technique has potential to be a worthy alternative to hand-drawn craft at times.

Berserk just shits all over that, it's embarrassing and frankly a bit insulting, they're suggesting this is the best they can do when it isn't.

Why they're doing a fucking fantasy anime in 3D is a mystery too, it makes sense to use CGI where modern settings with vehicles or SCI-FI mecha shows are involved, not in fucking Berserk which is so grounded in hand-drawn art and environments, and even its' own traditional pre-digital anime that for many was their first exposure to it.

It's an absolute joke.

You know I though the CLANG was just a meme but I actually got around to watching it and there is CLANG LITERALLY FUCKING EVERYWHERE.

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Sidonia worked out better since it's sci-fi/mecha setting works fantastic with CGI. If Berserk wanted to go the CGI route and look good, it needed a lot more budget.

>>144272253
>implying dogs don't clang irl

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>>144272030
I don't think I can go through with it man. One episode in and I want to kill myself

>>144268646
Sidonia, but Berserk is more disappointing due to how great the manga art is.

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>>144271998
At least post Storm games grandpa, Guilty Gear is old.

>>144272456
you're probably thinking about the movies
the newest anime has cgi that makes sidonia look like a masterpiece

>>144272470
Why don't studios planning on doing this cgi shit hire videogame animators?

>>144272548
Because Video game animators are always super busy since the medium they are in isn't fucking dead.

>>144272470
>a real-time 3D animation is better than a 3D pre-rendered animation
Are we living in the bizarro world?

>>144272548
$$$$
shit's expensive yo, and I guarantee that that Naruto game had a bigger budget than the entire season of Berserk

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>>144271998
god I love how CGI can look when done right,it makes things look so fluid.
Just imagine what would happen if one of these studios like the guys who make Guilty gear decided to create an anime.

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3D/2D mixes work.

>>144272714
that series was surprisingly great, especially considering the premise

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When you can't tell it's CG, that's the best.

>>144272798
I'm sorry but this scene isn't the best example,you can tell when the camera pans around the models a bit while they're still and the shading looks to "clean".
It doesn't look bad though but you can still easily tell it's CG

>>144271348
Shiro Sagisu's work has been shit ever since he spent years working on Bleach and the Rebuilds had pretty sub-par OSTs compared to NGE and EoE.

>>144268646
Sidonia's CGI worked for several reasons.

1. It actually suited Nihei's artstyle and the show's atmosphere.
2. Polygon was actually trying to make it look great. The scenery of Sidonia as well as the fight scenes look great.
3. They don't flip flop between 2D and 3D like Berserk does. They pick one and stick with it.

Berserk's CGI is complete irredeemable shit that doesn't suit Miura's style at all, and the constant flip flopping between 2D and 3D is painfully jarring.

>>144272798
>When you can't tell what the fuck is going on

>>144272094
No that's a dog

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People complain about Berserk's use of CGI, as though the 2D would have been much better.

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>>144272874
It was more impressive three years ago.

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Did you guys forget about this one which looked pretty fucking fantastic?

>>144272918
Also this.

>>144272979
>people who have seen Berserk 2016 after having read the manga probably look like this by now
That's fucking meta

>>144272993
probably,I didn't really start looking at CG until 2014 though and that was only due to sidonia and Fafner.

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Hasn't Polygon done character scenes better since Sidonia S2 into Ajin?

>>144268969
Yep.

Personally, I have never minded poor animation from any medium. I heard everyone complaining about Berserk's CGI a few months ago, but just thought it wad /a/utists being /a/ustist. Never watched the preview.

Jesus Christ it's bad. I am not some huge Berserk fan or anything, but I love the original anime, movies, and what I've read.

How did this happen????

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>>144273098
This is CGI gone bad. You can do crazy shit but nothing looks real. Shit is just flying around like they're not using thruster powered machines. Sidonia did this sometimes like here with the limbo BS.

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>>144273222
>Shit is just flying around like they're not using thruster powered machines
to be fair Macross' overtechnology has gotten to a point where physics has almost been disregarded

>>144272979

That's why Berserk 2016 is even worse than anticipated, the 2D is also dogshit, even the stuff in the OP which would usually be where you'd dump a lot of budget..

The Berserk movies had gorgeous 2D to offset the janky 3D.

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>>144273342
Might as well be flying in giant cubes.

>>144273342
>physics has almost been disregarded
Post that picture. You know the one.

>>144273342
Don't try to cover for shit choreography.

>>144273429
I'm sorry but I have no idea what you're referencing

>>144268646
berserk is bad as fuck, but I laugh my ass off with all the "clang clang" every shit he hits makes the same noise.
rocks, corpeses, living humans. wood, walls. horses.

>>144272192
Lost Children would be terrible for introducing the world and characters to newcomers. It's Guts at his absolute edgiest and I can only imagine what kind of CGI abomination the elves and their queen would become.

>>144272250
The problem is they are using 3DCG to emulate 2D in the hopes they can cut costs while tricking fat, otaku into thinking it is the same 2D they know and love. The fatal flaw in this plan is that this has never, ever once worked in Japan or in the west. 3DCG consistently looks like PS2 graphics.

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>>144268646
Ajin looks better.

BLAME! will look better

>>144273822
best girl

>>144273822
>BLAME! will look better
its getting an anime?

>>144273177
Yeah, Ajin was pretty good. It looked weird sometimes, but everything else was pretty well-executed. I wish it had a higher framerate

Still excited for S2

>>144271186
Early PS2 games looked good because they didn't actively try to look terrible. Berserk 2016 CGI is (relatively) low-poly discolored and poorly executed. It's not just some weird movement amongst 2D, it looks entirely different because they didn't even try to get the colors to match. Do you really need CGI for the entire horse? Just do the tongue ffs. I can't even watch this series anymore because I am at awe at how terrible this is.

It's worse than a PS1 game cutscene by a large margin. FF7 came out two decades ago and its cutscenes look better than this
>>144272548
They are working other projects and even if they were free, would cost much more than some mediocre animator with some CGI experience.

>>144273626
The one with Physica's grave

>>144274032
fuck I don't think I have it

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>>144273888
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDA1bUkotIk

>>144274194
Same sound director as Berserk 2016 by the way.

>>144274194
this looks incredible,almost on par with the game scenes that were posted,all the japs need to do is realize they can't do this at 24 fps and have it turn out well

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>>144272701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgE1Yynulx0

>>144274194
Absolutely no way in hell they're gonna pull this off

Gantz:0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZB_2_Nw0JE

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Berserk without a doubt

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Let's all stop talking about Sidonia's sometimes-good CGI and start talking about Sidonia's killer sound design.
Pretty much anything having to do with the main display on the bridge sounded awesome.

>>144274445
It's gonna be a movie or series or movies. They can do it.

>>144274194
I'm not sure just how interesting Blame would even be as an anime. He literally walks for centuries in scenery porn, but that's about it. Focusing only on the plot could take a lot of the atmosphere out and leave it as an action flick.

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>>144268646
Were the people that made Sidonia the same people that did this show?

>>144274194
>>144274252
>>144274298
That's not from the movie.

That's just the BD special from Sidonia.

>>144274567
Best of all, they nailed the "no sound in space" thing quite well mostly with all the sub-bass.
I pity all of you plebs watching with apple buds or laptop speakers.

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2D blended with 3D is best when done right.

>>144274746
>implying it's not the teaser.

>>144274194
That looks damn good. Actually happy about the CGI now. Hopefully the whole movie will be that quality though.

>>144270002
Wait is this why that autistic faggot hasn't posted anything in months? Is D+ releasing content on a secondary account?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iyY8A7MYNc

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>video games do anime CG better than anime

>>144270676
This can't be real, can it?

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>>144275300

>>144274746
It is in the TV anime as well.

>>144272304
that looks pretty good

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>>144275882
I saw teets.

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>>144275621
fucking shitty anime

But I really liked Sidonia's aesthetics?
It changed my mind about CGI anime, only to be completely disappointed again with Berserk.

>>144271443
>>144271598
>>144271719

Right, so if someone served you shit on a plate you'd eat it regardless. Good for you but people who actually care about a fucking Berserk anime will give a critical opinion so they do it better. If you want to be delusional and accept anything regardless of quality then it just shows you are just a fucking weeaboo.

>>144276233
Well if you're up for it you could always start fafner,although it doesn't start using CGI until the movie

>>144276270
>If you want to be delusional and accept anything regardless of quality then it just shows you are just a fucking weeaboo.
It's shit and so? I want to watch it anyways if you don't want to then just fuck off.

>>144271998
>The eye isn't a static texture, and you can see the reflection dots moving as she moves her head/expression
>At least three levels of shading
>Hair actually moves like it was animated (and timed) rather than just being left to a physics engine
>Overall crisp
>Dat blush
The animators probably more manual work for this 1 second clip than the berserk anime has in an entire scene.

>>144275932
>>144275967
Wait, what? I dont remember these scenes.

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>>144270925
it looks worse than n64 or ps1 games.

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>>144276656
Recap movie.

Good luck finding subs for it.

POST SIDONIA WEBUMS WITH SOUND DAMN IT, I WANT TO MASTURBATE TO IT!

Can we just show this to every single 3D "animator" working on this shitting show?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E&t=11m25s

>>144271719
Pretty sure a shitty SFM animator stealing models from a PS2 game would do better than this.

>>144274482
Why does she have a beard

>>144272798
Uh, back when that aired there was a minor shitstorm about the shitty cg in that fight.

>>144270084
But isn't that why people have been bitching about sailor moon aswell?

>>144268646
Berserk is the winner of shit CGI. Sidonia at least was somewhat worth watching.

>>144274194
I tried reading the manga but the scans I found all look very shitty and I don't think I can appreciate it that way, I mean the whole thing is based around the environments.

I hope Polygon adapts it properly.

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The only really glaringly bad CGI in Sidonia was the mammy bear. Berserk is just terrible start to finish. I really hope they just cancel this fucking shit before all the episodes are done.

>>144278172
This guy is a goldmine for good 3D animation ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E&t=11m25s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E&t=30m16s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E&t=31m59s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E&t=33m57s

>>144279062
Nihei is gonna reveal it at SDCC, isn't he?

>>144279871
I assume so

> To honor the rerelease of his groundbreaking work Blame! Nihei will sit down with his publishers Vertical and Kodansha for an interview, followed by a Q&A session with his many international fans.

>>144278172
>>144279766
I already told you to stop posting GG, it's old and busted.

Berserk has the shittiest anime in the world.

>>144269413
I haven't watched Berserk but is it worse than Ronja?

>>144268646
Berserk... it's shit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Tsgpk9JwI

>>144269818
This
>>144270676
>>144272020
>>144272048

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>>144280682

>>144275044
>Is D+ releasing content
No.

>>144280575
All of them. Not that any of them can ever do the manga justice.

>>144274194
holy shit that gun sound

get hypeeeeeeee

I've just finished the second episode of Berserk 2016.
I was actually okay with the first episode despite everything but this one was so shitty I had to open /a/ and start ranting about it, something that actually seldomly happens.
I just swallowed my typed out ~trillion words rant after cooling down a bit and realising I would bring nothing new to the table.

But I love Berserk and I'm generaly a person who tries to focus on the good sides.
Therefore my question is, should I watch the newest episode or should I just spare myself from getting angry again?

>>144281831
The woman from the last episode runs around with her titties hanging out, but they didn't animate the nipples. So yes, watch it. It's fucking hilarious.

>>144270798
There were a lot of bizarre problems with Pupa, but they mostly had to do with the management side of things. The show's budget got slashed to pieces at the last minute because one of the producers died or something, so what was intended to be a full-length body-horror show got reduced to a series of shorts with bizarrely truncated pacing, cheap animation, and for some reason really bad censorship. But I don't think it's fair to compare it to Berserk because one got unfairly shafted by outside forces and the other has no excuse besides incompetence.

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>>144269148
>>144268646

Sidonia CGI was ok and it fit the style of the manga and even better the Sci-fi setting even with the basically Black-White-Red color pallet, but Berserk is just plain bad.

Ars Nova was much better overall plus it included much more color pallet than Sidonia and Ship to Ship action in CGI is just awesome.

>>144269881
You can't accurately judge Sidonia unless you've seen the second season. The jump in visual quality they made between the two seasons is amazing.

>>144268969
Yeah, it really killed me yesterday watching the new episode...

>>144269033
What do you mean decent? The hand drawn parts are pretty damn good even compared to other anime. The opening hand drawn has some real shit segments though. If they could do the 2D parts 100% then the story changes would be tolerable.

>>144268646
>Ghost appears
>sfx: CLANG

The CG in Berserk wouldn't bother me if the pacing were better. But they're just fucking up shot length. Whoever is editing it or making directing choices doesn't have much of a sensibility.

>>144281831
If you watch it as a parody of Berserk, instead of an adaptation it's pretty good.

>>144283556
>Teekyuu director
>not going fast

>>144283658
>*CLONG* on ghosts
>Horrendoues regular animation between the cgi
>Ganon apostel full body shot looked like from a PS1/Windows 98 cutscene
>No nipples because we don't believe our material can make them casual enough, despite our efforts to make the series look as gritty as possible.

It's hilarious in a way but no thanks, I'm out.
This just hurts.

>>144283221
see
>>144272979

for amazing 2d quality n shiet.

>>144285145
It looks miles better than the CGI.

>>144275621
What in the fuck? Someone pls post some webms. I have to see how bad this is.

whats with the clang hatred? it's one of berserk's only good qualities. it doesn't redeem shit, but it's not a negative

>>144275298
The fact that it was rendered at ant sized resolution for the 3DS probably helped.

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>>144285329

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What I'd give for Studio 4C to come back. They made huge improvements in CG from the first movie, character designs, fight choreography, sound design were all great.
They would probably be laughing at the state of this show and the renewed appreciation of their work if it weren't for the fact that the likely reason that their not doing the series is the films probably put them in the financial shitter.

>>144274194
How did Killy survive? They found his body and reconstructed his brain?

>>144285885
The best part is that they improved the CGI.

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>>144285954
>survive
He didn't even die. He just continues.

>>144268646

Both an embarrassment, like comparing two different diarrhea-type shits

>>144285614
Oh, I love it when the blade hits metal, it just makes me puke if it hits ghosts and shit and they cue the same noises.

>>144285614
>Literally everything clangs
It was funny initially, but now I just want the clanging to stop.

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>tfw you hate the new series but you keep watching

>>144286257
Fucking this.

Berserk has come to the point where it is so bad that its good. I thoroughly enjoyed rape horse though.

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>>144286257
I never drop an anime, even if it's as horrendous as this new Berserk

Berserk has a better framerate but the models are horrible. Sidonia's models are better but they castrate the framerate for various reasons. I can't tell which is worse because they're both nearly unwatchable for different reasons.

millepensee (assumedly responsible for the 2D scenes) has only ever produced teekyuu and wake up girls movies, the latter of which turned out messy as hell. gemba (assumedly responsible for the CG) has worked on about 8-10 shows before, total.

is there a reason why the berserk production committee gave 2 inexperienced studios the go-ahead to work on this? am i missing something?

Which one is faster and cheaper for animating characters in CGI, motion capture or keyframing?

>>144286414
i imagine motion capture would be much cheaper provided you have the equipment already. it's one of those things that pays itself off the more you use it. you'd probably also need stunt actors or something, i don't know how they'd affect the cost

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>>144286401
No idea, especially considering Studio 4C had to produce a pilot of much better quality than this series in order to get the job
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsEiOrK3jPo

>>144286414
Mocap if your actor is a nobody. It takes less time to strap a bunch of those reference points to random actors and let them animate everything. Like that short anime this season about magical girls is mocap CG, obviously is cheap and looked terrible. Opened it up and deleted the file 10 seconds later.

>>144285885
Guts looks like my baby cousin here.

>>144269413
Kingdom is definitely way worse than Berserk.

>>144270676
Frampt?

>>144272205
Video game animators are also much better payed and would never dabble in traditional animation.

>>144272548
^

>>144272624
What's bizarro about it? Real time 30-60 fps > pre-rendered 12 fps. CGi in anime is choppy because it has to be kept at the same framerate as the cell animation.

>>144270676
This is so bad that it's actually terifying.

>>144287169
>Real time 30-60 fps > pre-rendered 12 fps
Are you retarded? Better FPS doesn't imply better animation.

>>144287380
Try rotating around a model at 12 fps you flaming faggot.

>>144273667
Lost Children is great for the rest of his development, though. You need to have that context for the rest of it to make sense.

Frankly, I never even picked the anime up when I found out about that and I'm just here to laugh at screenshots and webms of it.

>>144268646

I was cool with Sidonia. It worked for the story, and the animation was good enough. Berserk, though... fuck me.

I wasn't bothered at all by Sidonia's CGI.

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>>144275882
>>144275932
>>144275967
>Nagate never tapped the best Sight of Sidonia
Fag.

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Ok ok, I know I'm late but what the fuck is this?

Bump

Why is anime cg so choppy/framey? Like I tried watching the first episode of Sidonia and it was so bad. Why isn't it smoother?

Sidonia's was more fitting for the show.

>>144289305
Frames take time, time costs money.

even with 60 fps interpolation out the ass it looks like shit

>>144289173
We've known she won't have nipples since the trailer, man.

>>144289409
Sadly they won't be making any money until they make something that doesn't completely annihilate anyone's trust in their studio.
You don't just shit out something like Berserk and hold your hands up waiting for wads of cash.

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Just watched ep 1 of CGI fest. It's pretty fun. I actually like the changes and feel like this new version of things can work. Guts taking out his sword was great. It's all still sinking in though.

>>144289527
Yeah but I actually expected something to cover the nipples like a beam of light or shadows or something. This is actually fucking hilarious about how less they give a shit

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>>144286052
>2,244,096 hours
>93,504 days
>256 years exactly (365.25 days per year)

>>144272192
They already teased the Kushan invasion so I feel conviction has only two episodes left.

Please don't fuck up the mozgus fight Please don't fucking up the mozgus fight Please don't fuck up the mozgus fight

>>144286599
People bitch about the CGI and the cutting of scenes in the movies, but they sure as fuck improved.

>>144272020
My ex wife kept saying that the entire episode.

>>144287825
Guts is in a situation where he was the only one trying to fight a war, but he secretly wanted some help. He feels his sanity is slipping. Even now, he is stable, but he can slip into instability pretty fucking quick. Then all bets are off.

>>144268646
>sidonia
>bad
it was not arpeggio, but is leaps and bounds over Berserk

>>144293151
Censorship laws.

>>144273418
Fuck. I love this fight.

>>144269881
them models damage. one advantage is how much they can ad damage and scraps adn shit and its keeps constant. that lvl of details on hand drawn means you will have to redo every scar and scratch for every frame

>>144280243
Fuck you, leatherman, it's still the best example of 3DCG emulating a 2D anime style
The Naruto games definitely have their own style, but it's not comparable

>>144272798
People like this idiot are why we have a new Berserk that looks like this dog shit.

>>144268646
Garo

>>144293151
Did you divorce, like, just today or do you watch anime with your ex-wife? What the fuck man.

>>144293603
>not watching anime with your ex-wife and wife's son

>>144269660
Why would it be made ironically? Do you know what that word means?

>>144272548
>Why don't studios planning on doing this cgi shit hire videogame animators?
cause this ones goes into the several tenths of millions USD

>>144269509
it wasn't too bad

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>>144269148
>Waifus can't be CGI.

>>144293595
Only if you mean GnT

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>>144272048
Anon, I...

>>144289173
>>144278172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Tsgpk9JwI

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>>144273031
Angela a cute.
A CUTE!!

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>>144295376

>>144268646
Sidonia was amazing you fuck.

>>144269148
Wrong.

>>144273031
>Did you guys forget about this one
Because WHERE'S THE FUCKING SEQUEL

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>>144295851
Read the LNs

>>144286785
If you watched just the fisrt few episodes sure; Kingdom ended up being grade and improved considerably


Considerably, mind you

>>144273667
Well when i tell people they should try reading berserk i tell them to read Lost Children first.
Its detached from the story and shows everything berserk has to offer.

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>>144295762

>>144282667
>dat animated penis thing

>>144273222
What's wrong with the limbo?

>>144295923
No! I want another movie

>>144296131
He wants to duck under it, but bending backwards means his thruster would push him up

Also, shockwaves don't work like that.

>>144268646
Berserk, simply because the space mecha setting worked in favor of the artificial polished CGI look.

>>144270002
>>144275044
You talking shit about my boi demo? Well you better pipe down cause I know where your house lives.

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>>144269413
>In the past 5 years
This barely fits into your time window

>>144273667
To be fair, most of us if we got manga or first anime ep 1 first, we experience edgy Guts, who doesn't have the conflicting monologues or GA to back up.

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>>144296074

>>144274706
>tron uprising ended

It worked with 3D as being based on computer programs and character design or animation didn't suffer.

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>>144296483

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>>144272798
Here, have a better example.

>>144278491
Fuck you, I can't unsee that now.
At least it adds to the overall hilarity of this pile of shit.

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>>144272192
>mfw

Are you fucking trolling, kid?
Sidonia has like the best CGI in whole industry..
jeez, what a moron

>>144296297
He does cut his main thruster during the attitude change, but looking at it closely, it only shuts off after he's started spinning a bit. Is that all that was wrong?

>>144297272
his center of mass moves downwards, this would need downwards thrust, not just a flip

>>144297094
>sidonia
>best
acceptable, maybe. best, certainly not.

>>144296711
>zero shading
meh

Best CG
>Ufotable
>Polygon
Funny, Berserk CGI studio Gemba made CG for Macross movie.

>>144268646
Remember: no matter how badly nu-Berserk fucks up, it won't be as low as Mahou Shoujo Naria Girls.

I can't believe I mentioned Berserk and magical girls in the same sentence.

Post cute 2.5D
https://twitter.com/cii__/status/746901017363505152
>>144297996
>edgylord baiting

>>144298282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB9C3FHotLA

>>144297537
The main thruster is angled towards the cockpit, and that's also the piece that doesn't move during the spin. How are you determining his center of mass?

>>144296297
>cosmos

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>>144289173
It was either do that or have obnoxious light beams on the screen for over 80% of the episode

>>144270676
Ah, you were at my side all along.

>>144298411
>How are you determining his center of mass?
main engines must push against the center of mass, otherwise they would induce spin

>>144298360
Pretty gud.

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>>144270676

>>144299373
>those fingers

>full 3D CGI
>but very badly done
Has a new age of low budget QUALITY anime begun?

>>144274482
The weird direction/cinematography seems to be a bigger problem than the CG quality. It's like they have no idea how to convey this scene effectively, so they just fall back on wildly jerking the camera around

>>144299373
Q U A L I T Y
U
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T
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>>144299474
It won't be the same as 2D QUALITY.

Characters will not look off-model though. Its shittyness manifests in different ways. physics, shading, 90s-era game scenery, ugly as sin ground textures and things like that.

I guess we can still get clipping and layering errors.

>>144299967
The shittyness can also manifest that a model just doesn't look very good from certain perspectives. 2D can go off-model, 3D can show faults in the model.

>the new episode
>that Midland scene

The thing is the Midland scene wasn't badly done, and was a decent mix of CG and hand drawn that was better done in the Golden Age trilogy, but here was still shoddy because low budget and studio that doesn't care.

Which begs the question, why the CG? Even low budget 2d can look decent and you can accomplish a lot with stills. CG stills and inanimation are just cheap looking.

>>144300374
It was the only part that didn't make me wanna puke, still looked kinda meh but compared to full CGI shit they throw it was bearable

That one Animator Expo short about cycling had pretty nice CG
And a cute tomboy

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>>144300073

>>144300596
So they have different models for different perspectives?

>>144300780
That's how a lot of CG productions work.

>>144300596
>am I cute ~~~uguu?

>>144300596
>filename
lol'd

>>144272798
Me and a friend are watching KLK for the first time and I instantly noticed the shift from 2D to 3D in that scene. I mean it's not the worst CG ever but you can't tell me you wouldn't notice that.

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>>144301046
Switching between 2D and 3D whenever it's convenient seems standard now.

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Daily reminder of berserks budget

>>144301207
First they came for the mecha, and I did not speak out
Becase I was not a mecha pilot.

Then they came for the background characters, and I did not speak out
Because I was sitting comfortably in my window seat.

Then they came for the dancers, and I did not speak out
Because I was no idol.

And then they came for me. And there was nobody left to remember hand-drawn characters.

>>144269413
Aku no Hana

>>144302257
Berserk easily looks worse.
At least Aku no Hana is coherent in it's artstyle.

>>144268646

While i don't like the CGI or the animations on Berserk at this point of anime decadence i think it's the best we can hope for and be glad Berserk got an adaptation at all...

Berserk CGI is clearly worse and more annoying than Sidonia's though since they have it nailed to the space battles and mech stuff.
Berserk on the other hand uses on an arbitrary manner that just makes the animations feel odd.

>>144302690
>i think it's the best we can hope for and be glad Berserk got an adaptation at all...
No adaption instead of this would be fine by me.

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>>144302690
>be glad Berserk got an adaptation at all

IT WAS FUCKING REAL
https://youtu.be/6BjPjt7D5W4?t=58

>>144273222
Sidonia is better off because its CGI focuses on the space combat rather than the background and excels at that. (just the void of space most of the time; not hard to render.)

Berserk on the other hand; is known for its beatifically detailed illustrations that can never be translated to CGI.

Sidonia's better.
Can't believe that this the world we live in.

>>144301315
>>144268646
Why is Berserk's budget so low?

>>144270676
WHY THE FUCK DOES IT HAVE A HUMAN NOSE ????

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>>144305192
Because he had a human nose in the manga.

>>144304230
A lot of famous manga seems to get low budget anime, maybe it's because the name itself brings viewers so they don't have to try as hard.

How little integrity do jap anime studios have?
Horribly distracting barbie doll breasts, anythings better than clear view of breasts that have no nipples.
At this point I merely hope the following episodes get worse and worse so theres at least meme webms about the show, its never going to get watchable with this incompetent studio.

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So for Berserk anime we've got
1. a series without an ending
2. movies that cut out everything
3. a series with amazingly bad cg

Is there any series out there that embodies the "read the manga" mentality better than Berserk?

>>144305722
considering that literally-who studios are making it that's a good indication that their budget consists of approximately 5 cups of ramen per episode.

>>144304230
movies bombed

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>>144288576
He got CENTURIES WORTH OF BOTTLED UP LUST

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>>144298282
the gold standard

http://b.1339.cf/jpoquii.webm

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>>144299373
ONE PUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH

The camera is much closer to the 3D abominations in Berserk, so the choice is obvious.

>>144307540
Back to >>>reddit with you

Im convinced berserk will never get a good adaptation at this point

>>144268646
They are both shit with that choppy animation. Beserk takes the shit crown though.

>>144271998
>>144287169

If animators spent as much time learning how to use CGI as they do manual animation, do you think CGI would as good as normal animation?

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>>144306129
At least the old series was made by people who showed genuine care for the source material.
They may not have had much to work with in terms of budget, but they made damn sure they got across their love of the story and characters.
It's a pity that the movies and this new abomination just look like garbage shat out to keep a license under one roof the way the recent Fantastic 4 movie was.

>>144309462
it will eventually. need to raise a new generation of animators first

>>144268646
Sidonia was pretty good, if you look for a good example of cgi use watch BBK, Berserk is just garbage

>>144268646
Berserk, its all in the comparison of the source material to the anime. berserk is a level of quality that is hard to beat in the manga market and it looks god awful at almost all times even compared to other CG. Sidonia was janky but managed to look decent. Also it wasn't too bad in terms of how it looked compared to the manga as drawing humans is not the authors strong suit.

>>144307314
Fuck off, degenerate.

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Nothing wrong with Sidionia. Stop trying to find things worse than Berserk 2016. You can't. Just accept it.

>>144273031

Still makes me sick with how fucking shit it looks.

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>>144312121

>>144312315
>cheese string hair

Yamato 2199 had my favorite use of cgi, it had a couple of iffy scenes but was for the most part excellent.

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>>144280899
ok now they are ripping off disney

I rated sidonia 10/10

>>144268646
Bersek isn't even CGI bullshit anymore.
It's just pure shit.