Weekly Shonen Jump Issue 33 ToC

>>144109805
Color me surprised

>Takuan to Batsu
>Mononofu

Will they survive if Bleach and Nisekoi are ending?

>>144109926
Jump editors have confirmed Bleach is ending in less than 10 weeks. Nisekoi looks even sooner. Yes, it will clear up some room, but they had better shape up before the new batch of serializations start up.

>>144109805
Saiki has been drifting toward the bottom for a few weeks right before the anime started. How ironic.

>>144109805
>Kimetsu no Yaiba
Fuck yeah
>Takuan to Batsu
Fuck no

I wonder why Batsu is doing so bad, seems pretty good from the couple of chapters that I've read.

>Butthurt Academia shonenfags

>>144109926
I have no idea how Mononofu is still going with its low rankings and unrecorded sales. Plenty of WSJ manga that actually sold anything have been cut quicker.

>>144109805
Buttsu and Monoautism are done.

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>>144109805
I'm just glad Kimetsu is doing well. It had me worried there with the sales but I think it might survive after all.

>>144109805
>Black clover rank higher than Hero academy

What the fuck happened???

>>144111020
It has ranked higher than BnHA before.
Its not really a surprise anymore

>Black Clover still in the top 5

Has been out of the top 5 in literal months. I dig it.

>>144112354
hasn't*

I still laugh at those who said SnS would be cancelled 50 chapters ago

>>144109805
>Takuan to Batsu
FUCK NO. Please survive.

What the actual fuck

Ghost tit #1?

I think that Bleach and Nisekoi are ending within the next two months, that might save both of Mononofu and Takuan to Batsu for next time's cutting board. There's room for new series without cutting both of them.

>>144113477
It's first volume sold over twice as much as most the other recent series.

>>144113022
I laugh at the people who said, Kimetsu No Yaiba would get axed just because of its first few average ranks...

>>144109805
Lot of anons say there's a sea change occurring in Jump. Bleach, Gintama, Toriko, and Nisekoi are all in their last stretch. The popular freshman series, except Black Clover, are only successful in the rankings but have sub-100k sales. Are those sales just something Jump will accept?

Anyone know if Haikyuu, Saiki, Soma, or World Trigger are close to their natural ends? If not, by 2017 they'll be the old guard, not counting Kochikame, OP and HxH.

>>144113630
Takuan and Batsu suffered the opposite fate. Average ranks upon arrival that then dipped to the bottom.

>>144113517
If both Bleach and Nisekoi end before the next set of new series, there will be three open slots for new series, and if Jump follows their recent trend they'll only introduce two new series, although it's possible they'll introduce three to fill all the open slots. Either way, nothing needs to be cancelled, so I doubt we'll see any newer series go for probably another half a year or so.

>>144113841
Saiki is a gag manga.
Soma and WT still have things to do.

>>144113551
It took 4 weeks to reach 70k. The first week was 29k.

>Ghost Tits first
good

>>144113517
They should end all 4 of them and start 4 new series. This shogi shit will never sell

>>144113930
It probably would have sold more during the first week. They kept reprinting it.

>>144113930
29k is still more than most new series 1st volumes, which also all dropped off the ranking, where as Yuuna continued to sell enough to reach 70k.

>>144113841
I can see WT ending by the end if next year, maybe not entirely naturally, but Ashihara has health issues and it doesn't have much growth potential now that the anime is done.

Don't follow Saiki but as a gag manga, how can you tell if the author wants to end it?

>>144112354

Its been fairly competitive between the two. Though I am a bit surprised with BNHA, isn't the rankings based on 7-8 weeks ago? We were in the middle of a major climax with the Big bad, I'd figure it would have ranked easily #1 or #2

>>144113841
>Haikyuu
It's about 60% done if the author only shows MCs first year. In the current arc they are preparing for nationals
>Soma
About 50-60%
>WT
Could easily be 400 chapters long with the New World-ish arc

I think none of them will end before 2019

Yaiba is a battle shounen, I'm not surprised the editors place it high with Clover and Heroaca. I hope more people will buy it now

>>144114047
In addition to the health problems and anime end, World Trigger ranks in the bottom more often than not these days. Reminds me of Toriko's situation.

If Jump is forcing Shimabukuro to rush to the end, I'm sure Ashihara will get the same treatment in a year or so.

>>144114476
I fucking hope they don't rush World Trigger to the end. It's one of my favorites.

>>144114423
With Bleach, Gintama, and Toriko ending soon, Jump will be relatively light on battle manga. That small void should help Kimetsu no Yaiba.

I don't read it but maybe Takuan and Batsu can shift to action and take advantage too.

>>144109805
>Yuuna at #1

The power of tank nipples is unstoppable. Tosh should appeal to JUMP to get an edge back.

funny how Mononofu went from having its highest ranks like 12-15 issues ago to now being almost worth considering cancellation.

So the rankings are based off 8 weeks ago? Does that mean 7 or 8 chapters ago?

Looks like Kimetsu is safe from early cancellation.

>>144109805
Good to see Yuna and Black Clover at the top
Kimetsu beating MHA? now thats unexpected

>ecchi manga on top
What the fuck, I thought jump readers were embarrassed to vote ecchi manga. Is it any good? I'm a gay man but ecchi manga with easy harem and big boobs always turn me on, dunno why, should I jump in?

I'm digging Kimetsu No Yaiba so far, it's a very non-Jump series (is kinda giving me a Sunday vibe actually) but it's good.

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New Jump shit when?

I want some new adventure manga.

>>144115345
It's an old source this though. It's from Oda's QA and Bakuman, but nowadays Jump reader mostly vote online, so it should have speed up the process at least of a couple of weeks.

>>144115968
Black Clover and Yaiba?

>>144116033
Any solid number? I'll take a guess.

Maybe is time for Jump to change the strategy.

Let the series grow a little and no burn and axe every new series that fast.

>>144115898
>I'm a gay man but ecchi manga with easy harem and big boobs always turn me on, dunno why, should I jump in?
No you're a bisexual man.

>>144116168
They kind of already do this. Over half of their newer manga sell less than 100k. But a lot of them still do well in the rankings, so they've kept them around. Hinomaru Zumo sells less than 50k but is considered a success.

>>144116317
But anon I don't like real girls. I've always ever been with boys. When I see a girl IRL, no matter how hot she is, I never have those kind of feeling. It's only 2D girls I fap to.

>>144116402
Bakuman explained this clearly. The main Jump aim is selling Jump. They want to sell the magazine first, that's why the rankings are so important. Meanwhile, we western have a distorted perception of how a volume must sell to be considered a success because the holy trinity doped the sales, but in reality just cracking the Oricon means that your manga is a good success. There are tons of volume released in japan every day (for christ sake there are something like more of a hundred of magazines), selling around 50k is already considered a success. Jump axes manga when they don't bring readers to Jump anymore, volume sales matter almost zero. How many veteran manga with great sales have we seen being forced to end quickly just because the rankings weren't good anymore? Mago, Bleach, Toriko.. Jump cares about Jump, volumes sales are already a success, there is no other magazine where every series always crack the Oricon.

>>144116168
They've definitely been doing this recently though. Both introducing less series and axing series less quickly. I don't remember exactly how long it's been, but when was the last time they even axed a series? That shitty baseball manga? It used to be we'd see at least one or two go every time they introduced a new batch of series.

>>144109805
>Takuan to Batsu
Crap. Unless it pulls out a small miracle it's fucked.

>Yuragi-sou
this disgusts me

>>144116719
Buddy Strike was the last manga they axed, and yeah it was a while ago.

AssClass ended properly.

>>144116796
Both Kimetsu and Samon have pulled crazy turn arounds in their rankings so it's not impossible.

>>144114476
people for god's sake

You don't sell millions of copies and get canceled. It'd be retarded. At some point the ranks don't matter. That's how stuff like Bleach and Toriko lived for longer than you'd think would be normal given their lower rankings. Nisekoi too. They sell.

>>144116649
>How many veteran manga with great sales have we seen being forced to end quickly just because the rankings weren't good anymore?
>Bleach
it begins

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Surprised MHA isnt top.

>Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san is 1st
>Kimetsu no Yaiba 3rd

NEW BLOOD

>>144116895
I do worry though because while I quite like Takuan and Batsu, I can't really see what might suddenly make it more well-regarded.

Samon had a hard shift from how it initially worked. As for Kimetsu...not actually quite sure what happened there. Well that's why I consider it a little miraculous if you recover like that.

>>144117635
I liked Takuan and Batsu too, so I'd be sad for it to go as well. I'm hoping for that miraculous turn around.

Also, I never really understood what people said about Samon getting magically better after the first couple chapters. Most of the manga still seems to be humor derived from Samon being a dick. Was it just the introduction of more characters?

>>144117708
Samon became more sympathetic, more characters were added, and it became much less "Samon-kun is an Asshole".

If it had stayed exactly like the first few chapters it would have totally been axed.

>>144109805
So
1-Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
2-Black Clover
3-Kimetsu no Yaiba
4-Boku no Hero Academia
5-Haikyuu!!
6-Gintama
7-Samon-kun wa Summoner
8-Toriko
9-Saiki Kusuo no Psi-nan
10-Nisekoi
11-Bleach
12-Kochikame
13-Takuan to Batsu
14-Mononofu
15-Isobe Isobee Monogatari

Takuan no batsu looks ready to get axed, shame.

>>144110989
Probably because it's about Shogi, they need to fill some quotas.

which one is the new TLR?

>>144117802
Yuragi Yuna

>>144117751
Doesn't make sense, they haven't had staple board-games manga since, what? Hikaru no Go? Was that even Jump? Never read it.

I really don't understand why Mononofu lives, but if anything since it ranks even lower than Takuan and Batsu that just makes me more hopeful.

Maybe Jump really did change philosophy and isn't trying to cut things down in 20 chapters.

>>144117825
While I don't understand why it's survived this long, Mononofu's probably next to get axed, and with all these long running series ending, I doubt we'll see more than one, if that, cancelled when they introduce the next set of new series.

>>144117825
Mononofu is this year's Kagamigami

>>144117996
"Thing that survives a bit longer than you expected, but still dies"?

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Japan will defend this.

>>144118035
I wish this series hadn't been born.

Perfectly fucking generic.

Well, at least it doesn't make me furious like Nisekoi does.

>>144118031
Yeah, Kagami was even worse though. Editor's ruined it with shounen cliches

>>144118076
It would have been a very nice, weird detective story. The battle manga elements were dull indeed.

Interesting

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Why aren't you reading Tanjiro's Bizzare Adventure?

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>>144118198
I wish Jump still crazy covers with all the mangaka on it.

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Why is Black Clover Sooo good ?

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>>144118603
Because of Yami and sluts

>>144116526
You are straight in denial

>>144118603
it's not, fuck off

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>>144118752
>that swimsuit that digs a little bit into the skin.
that always gets my engine running.

>>144118902
It's called skindentation.

>>144117254
The moment the manga confirmed All Might wasn't gonna die and everybody was safe, simply injured was when it lost most of the interest. Everyone wants everyone to live, but after the sigh of relief it's obviously gonna lose all the hype and interest since the aftermath isn't anything special.

MHA usually does a good job of spinning a twist on cliches, but the way they dealt with the last arc was just same old same old from the rest of the series so far. Even if you enjoy it, I highly doubt it's memorable enough to hit rank 1.

Not when ghost tits is willing to show the goods.

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>>144118826
But it is anon.

When is HxH returning.

>>144119438
Speak for yourself, that was the most hype the manga has been and people loved it.

>>144119547
>and people loved it

The rankings say otherwise.

>>144119525
If we don't hear anything before DQXI comes out, don't expect anything until 2018.

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>>144119438
I thought it handled it well.
Killing off all might was unnecessary and its was more of cliche to do so since p much everybody was calling for his death.

Both AFO and All Might are still alive.
The torches have been passed on but they're still playing a role. In glad desu since fags were already calling it like the death of Jiraiya.

>>144119525
next year

>>144119566
The rankings don't say anything. It happened like 4 chapters ago.

Also BnHA is ranking highly even if you were right, so, what?

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>>144119566
> Rank 4)

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>>144119626
>next year

>>144114124
>Haikyuu!!
>60% done
No way, those nationals will take years to complete. Especially because teams like Nekoma will probably get focused on as well.

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>>144113022

>>144109805
So the ghost harem is the new hot thing in town?
What does it offer that other haremshit doesnt?

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>>144119525
Next week in manga magazine

>>144119764
Nipples.

>>144119699
>ranking below Kimetsu no Yaiba

>>144119764
nothing

but that;s exactly why it's here; there's no other plain and unremarkable fanservice series in the magazine

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>>144120115
Got me there anon

>>144119438
>>144117254
The chapters don't even cover it

>>144119547
You clearly weren't on /a/ during the aftermath then. It was literally 1/10th or less than the fake spoilers week about Mt Lady dying.

>>144109805
>Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
>Black Clover
>Kimetsu no Yaiba

Editor manipulation at it again

>>144120643
I'm here for all the spoilers and chapters.

>>144120643
Thank god the archive exists so we can see you're full of shit

>>144119620
I never said it wasn't handled well. I was referring to the aftermath not being handled well, because it's cliche and there's no twist other than the generic "people are more forgiving and positive than you'd think!" which has been ongoing since the very first chapter. It was fresh for the first 30-50 chapters sure, but it's no longer special enough to monopolize the top spot.

>>144120643
>>144119438
>>144117254
You dumbasses do realize that chapter 91 wasn't ranked right?

>>144120697
Go link it then retard. Can you even count properly and figure out how many threads were made during fake spoilers week? Prove to everyone here you know how to use archives.

>>144120666
keep telling yourself that, M80.

>>144120731
It's even worse then, cause that means it was in a more exciting period.

>>144120777
You're grasping hard for them straws

>>144120777
Chapter 91 wasn't ranked because there was a color page retard. At least learn how the TOC works before spouting shit

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>>144120730

>>144120666
Its funny because you can look at the chapters being ranked and see that the editors fucked with it.

>>144120666
>Editor manipulation
Yuuna was the one punch man chapter and KnY was one of the Muzan chapters

>>144121229
And Black Clover?

>>144121249
is always high

>>144121249
Black Clover hasn't been out of the top 5 for months, because it's fun and exciting.

>>144121255
>>144121275
>editor manipulation

>Ghost tits
Yeah, you can clearly tell those academiafags are 13 year old kids. Might as well call BHA as Naruto 2.0

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>>144121229
>Yuuna was the one punch man chapter
Eh...alright
>>144121229
>KnY was one of the Muzan chapters
Alright that's editor manipulation
>>144121255
>>144121275
>because it's fun and exciting.
Work on your bait next time

>>144121353
Then Heroaca is editor manipulation too. Two can play at this game. Even if it was manipulation, what's wrong with advertising new series?

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>>144121414

>>144121421
ratings say otherwise about black clover
face it
the nips like black clover better than academia

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>>144121421
>implying it's bait

pic related is (you)

>>144121421
>Alright that's editor manipulation
What why? People like the villain

>>144121434
>Then Heroaca is editor manipulation too.
Heroaca has never left the top 5 since its debut and its first volume sales went through 3 reprints. BC started out near the bottom and it isn't until recently that it started occupying the top 5 and there's nothing in the story that has changed.

>>144121481
>>144121485
>ratings say otherwise about black clover
Sup editor-san
>>144121498
Those chapters weren't good.

>>144121505
yet now its lower than yaiba
goes to show the last arc was not liked by the nips

>>144120829
Color pages are ranked

>>144121414
Anon, do you know what kind of magazine SJW is? Do you also go into a Chinese restaurant to loudly exclaim that they sell Chinese cuisines?

>>144121570
Found the retard

>Anime has crappy ratings (even lower than freaking Gundam IBO)
>Sales are not well either
>Beaten by an ecchi harem in the rankings
BHA is dying kek

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>>144120730
>I was referring to the aftermath not being handled well, because it's cliche and there's no twist

The fact that All Might still survive alone was enough of a twist and it went opposite of everyone expectation. Don't know why keep calling it cliche, him dying would had been more cliche. You're also ignoring all the death flags All Might still have on him despite not being the symbol of peace anymore and the ominous line "You lost the perfect moment to die".

>>144121554
You're a really bad troll

>>144121505
>Black Clover started out near the bottom
>now is consistently high ranking
>it's not possible that Black Clover has improved in quality, hence why readers like it, hence why it ranks high
>it must be editor manipulation

Wew. Lad.

>>144119438
Right, as if no other Jump series played safe.

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>>144121623
>Getting a second season
>Sales are much better than expected
>lol rankings

How triggered are you?

>>144121552
i wonder if butthurt academia fags will drop the editor act(which they accuse without proof) when the manga is ranked so low that jump has to cancel it

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>>144121623
>5.3mill copies in print
>Merchandising has been very good

Its time to die

>>144121591
I mean, you call BHA as it is and yet call Yuragi as Ghost tits.

>>144121552
I liked them and most people did. Your taste is just garbage

>>144121643
>stating facts is trolling

sure thing academia fag
but ya might wanna say that to the nips that voted it below yaiba

>>144121729
Yes, and? Is this your first time seeing silly fan nicknames?

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>>144121554
Or maybe Yaiba had a good chapter that deserve it high ranking.

I bet you don't even read Yaiba.

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How can Deku compete ?

>>144121702
Not that I agree with that retard but

>Sales are much better than expected

is not true. If anything, the boost in sales was lower than expected.

Of course it still sells really well.

>>144121790
I thought the anti magic swords were blunt as fuck. How can he cut anyone with such an unsharp weapon?

>>144121790
I'm ready for beast dude to die, but I wanted Yami to be the one to do it.

>>144121702
>was planned as a split season from the start.
>1 year to wait for "second" season.
>Sales of the manga were great but the anime is produced by toho animation. Which means they're relying on disc sales and it failed their expectations.
>lol rankings indeed.

How triggered are you?

>>144121678
>it's not possible that Black Clover has improved in quality
It hasn't. About the only improvement is the introduction of Yami. Its still derivative as shit

>>144121804
>If anything, the boost in sales was lower than expected.
Then what was the expectations?

>>144121845
It has objectively improved a great deal since chapter 23.

>>144121785
oh meaning black clover had a better chapter than academia aswell
and since you have no proof of editor

>>144121843
>was planned as a split season from the start.
I love this meme
>1 year to wait for "second" season.
And?
>but the anime is produced by toho animation. Which means they're relying on disc sales and it failed their expectations.
What were their expectations?
>lol rankings indeed.
You won't be here next week then

>>144121881
It hasn't.

>>144121965
yeah it actually has

>>144121937
if it was successful then it would have gotten a boost in manga sales like opm but it couldn't cause it was not that good and just a poor man's opm

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>>144121925
This is bottom tier trolling anon.

>>144121881
>>144121982
>NiggerClover fags kept claiming that its gotten better
>Went through the manga in one sitting
>Its still fucking shit

Trying to get people to come into your dead threads eh?

>>144121991
If you think BNHA isn't "Sky High: the manga" than you're in denial.

It's well written but it's also horribly unoriginal.

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>>144121987
>>144121987
>if it was successful then it would have gotten a boost in manga sales like opm
My Hero Academia around 300k and right now 500k -> 200k people increase
One Punch Man around 500k and right now around 700k -> 200k people increase

>>144122028
>implying I give half a shit if /a/ likes Black Clover or not
>implying /a/ has good taste at all

If anything, I like that Black Clover is unpopular here, because every time I even mention you faggots get so triggered, and that shit is so fun for me.

>fanbase wars
WSJ threads in a nutshell

>>144122071
it was not 500k before the anime

>>144122115
It was

>>144121925
>Why are you so triggered
But I'm not? My post says otherwise, in fact. If anything you're the one who seems bothered with the ghost tits name (which wasn't even started by me)? You can call hero acad whatever you want... which again, is part of the point of the post you replied to. I didn't start any silly nicknames. If you come up with some other names that happens to catch on, then that's what other people will keep calling it.

Seriously, mate, is this your first time on /a/? People come up with silly names all the time. Some caught on, some didn't. You're looking for quarrels that don't exist.

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>First post mentioning bnha is a post saying their butthurt when no one mentioned bnha
You faggots are actively seeking them out now.

>>144120829
Did chapter 90 rank?

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>>144122030
Still looking for the shool in the sky my dude

>>144122093

Irrelevant fags trying to be relevant.
Literally every thread.

>>144122168
I don't know who are worse: BNHA fags or the fags that feel the need to argue with them.

Probably BNHA fags.

>>144122115
Last volume release before the anime
>One-Punch Man 9 485,440

>>144122195
>implying I don't keep bringing up Black Clover because it triggers the niggers

>>144122071
some volumes of opm managed a million or close to it,has academia done anything similar?

>>144122184
Yes. Last week

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>>144122199
Everyone else is actively trying to start shit for no reason so I'll go with the latter.

>People literally incapable of enjoying good rankings without trying to be smug about it

>>144122262
>some volumes of opm managed a million or close to it
24. One Punch-man #9 (26,589 / 652,937)
25. One Punch-man #8 (25,993 / 729,193)
26. One Punch-man #5 (25,794 / 767,967)
27. One Punch-man #4 (25,699 / 797,499)
28. One Punch-man #6 (25,353 / 749,018)
29. One Punch-man #7 (25,058 / 752,274)
30. One Punch-man #3 (24,819 / 820,585)
31. One Punch-man #1 (24,609 / 941,605)
33. One Punch-man #2 (24,319 / 872,257)

Also OPM has been out longer

>>144122291
>Black Clover ranks higher than BNHA
>BNHA fags immediately either express disbelief or start making excuses
>BNHA fags call Black Clover shit
>Black Clover fags are smug for defending their manga

okay.

>>144121925
You seem to be the one who is triggered though. Original post has >>144121414 being pissy that one title getting a stupid nickname while the other didn't get stupid nickname and somehow the logic is that it must be one work's fan being angry. What kind of logic is that?

Oh, and people have been making the Naruto 2.0 jab at Boku Hero.

>>144109805
I'm just glad Sesuji wo Pin! to is nowhere near the bottom.

It is the manga that gives me the most joy. Too bad scanlation is dropped.

>>144122333
>BNHA fags
I love how you automatically assume its BNHAfags doing this when the majority of /a/ hates BC

>>144122353
didn't kishi make art depicting bnha as the next naruto?

>>144122199
The anime or manga is irrelevant. I don't know why, but some people seem to have fun inciting petty squabbles. Just look at the stalker/sales threads. BnHA is just another title that gets shitposted, that's all.

>>144122397
yet only bnha fags get triggered when they see black clover above their manga

>>144122195
It really is every thread
>thing is higher than other thing
>YES OTHER THINGFAGS BTFO
>yeah well volume sales/anime/popularity/shitflinging
Repeat until thread dies
Oh and people wondering why some comedy ranks so well/has slow scans

>>144122333
>2016
>still trying this hard to start fanbase wars
Why can't you fags just stick to your stalker threads?

>Read and Enjoy both BNHA and BC
>fags have to argue in every thread instead of being happy at the success

/a/.

/a/ never changes.

>>144109805
>Gintama still this high

One piece aside (because seems like it'll stay 1-2 regardless of whatever oda shits on the pages), i'm surprised Gintama is still so strong and more than that, stable. It never dipped below 12, and for the most part moves between 6 to 8

>you are only allowed to be a fan of one similar type of work and not another!
>the idea that you might like both works because of their similarity is impossible!
>if you don't like this one, you must be a fan of the other one!

I sincerely hope some of you are just trolling and trying to have a giggle out of this, because otherwise, you guys have a really warped (and sad) view of things since you have to go the distance to stop yourself from enjoying something else that is similar to a thing you already enjoy. That and wasting time being angry about it when you could have been enjoying something else.

>>144122538
But that's the beauty of it. /a/ drama is better than just about any reality TV or soap operas. I love it most when I enjoy shows of two divisive fanbases since I get to enjoy two shows AND get a good drama out of the threads. Euphonium vs Kekkai Sensen threads were hilarious in its sheer lunacy.

>>144109805
I'm glad for Kimetsu, I really like it so far.

>>144118063

The only nice thing is the main character isn't a useless piece of garbage like most harem guys. There's actually a reason for these girls to fall for him, he's strong as fuck.

It's a comfy Ecchi, not really much to be angry about.

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>>144121965
Jump sure has changed

>>144122926
misquote

>>144122926
Toriko's desperate push still makes me laugh.

>>144122926
>Toriko, Liffy and Naruto
How mad is Ichigo?

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>Black Clover above anything
how?
how that retard even got a second chance after a horrifying hungry joker?
do nip have SUCH a shit taste they will eat something even more generic and boredom-inducing than fairy tail?

>>144122926
>bakuman, sket dance, and fucking reborn
I miss it.

>>144123037
You sound really mad.

>>144123037
just let it go man.
People like his manga, whatever he is hurting nobody.

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>>144122538
>Read and Enjoy both BNHA and BC
>BC

>>144123037
>retards still complaining that a manga that appeals to kids and teenagers, running in a magazine targeted at kids and teenagers, are actually doing well.

>>144122451
No BnHAfags are in their own threads discussing the manga they like something BC fags will never experience hence why they have to start fanbase wars with other manga to get attention.

>>144123264
Yeah see this was what I was referring to.

You're just trying to start shit for no reason.

Shame on you.

>>144118198
Huh, Haikyuu only got 2 covers until the anime was announced

>>144123326
if i remember correctly the last proper bc thread was fine until academia fags came and started ashing the bashing the manga for no reason
so its definitely you guys that get triggered
to the point seeing that bc even gets discussion about the chapters(with no mention of academia) triggers you lot

>>144123501
Nice fanfiction

>>144123501
it's no surprise. There are like 20 different academia threads per day.

academia fags are fucking fanatics.

>>144123501
And how do you know it's BnHAfags?

>>144123501
And way to prove his point

>>144123501
Really?
Why would they do that, I enjoy BNHA too but I don't see why they would have to validate why it is better than black clover.
I mean who cares as long as it doesn't get cancelled.

>>144123554
they always mention academia when they bash black clover and not just once but a number of times
its how we found out it was them

>>144123580
The first 200 posts were about BC, then it was just BnHA and Toriko shitposting

>>144123604
dunno,we were talking about asta when suddenly they appeared

>>144122353

So using stupid nicknames to the series you hate is logical and when someone disses to your preferred series it's illogical?

Will new series get an anime announcement this year?

>>144123554
considering one of the first posts in this very thread is some fag being condescending about Black Clover ranking higher than BNHA specifically...

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>People don't know what falseflaggers and shitposters are

You dumb faggots are getting duped. How literally new are you nerds?

>>144123691
Zumo and Clover are the next ones to get an anime

>>144123692
Before anyone even mentioned anything, >>144110918

>>144123501
Watch what you say!
one mod here is an academia fag and bans when someone disses the series.

>>144122364
im so sad the scanlations dropped, i can only pray an anime will come out for it

>>144123743
and then >>144111020

>>144113841
>world trigger

ill just say that shit has the potential of one piece tier scale in what it could do, that said they kind of have already illustrated what endgame is and who the villains likley are so it probably wont be as massive a scale as it could be, its still got at least 200 chapters in it if it doesnt get axed which at this point isnt happening cause its a pretty good seller

the issue of it ending might come more from the authors health than anything, hes been managable so far but short breaks have been increasing and i wouldnt be surprised if he didnt turn into the next togashi.

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>Always the same ESLfag with poor punctuation and grammar trying to start shit out of nowhere with BnHA

>>144114476
I dont think jump can afford to lose something like world trigger now, it sells extremely well and has a really loyal and large fanbase, with bleach, nisekoi, and gintama all ending this year they cant afford to lose something like world trigger.

>>144123942
Jump is screwed in the West if they don't think of something fast.

Although desu I doubt they'll care that much.

>>144121937
>I love this meme
I love it when someone is in denial.

>And?
If it's so popular then it could've gotten more episodes. Instead, it got 13 episodes. You can only do that in late night anime.

>What were their expectations?
The anime premiered in the legendary timeslot (Nichigo) in MBS. So they must've expecting good ratings and BD sales. Instead, ratings were abysmal (averaging 1.9). That's quite bad. So in ratings, it's a failure.

Normally, a Jump anime is produced by ShoPro(Shogakukan-Shueisha Production) to advertise their books. That means BD sales doesn't matter. But this is produced by Toho Animation, which mainly relies on BD sales. For a series that's constantly on top of the weekly rankings, of course it'd do the same with the BD rankings. Not exactly. The anime's BD average sales are 2,500+ copies. (In comparison, Bleach's BD sales are 12,000+ and gintama 15,000+) So, not really a failure but really, really disappointing.

tl;dr it failed to get good ratings and got mediocre sales.
It didn't live up to their expections.

>You won't be here next week then
Anything is possible. I mean, ghost tits became number 1.

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>>144124778
These detractors are really something

>>144124778
>It didn't live up to their exceptions.
That's nice. So what was their expectations?

>>144121612
prove that I'm wrong then

>>144124969
That it'd sell more than 2,500 copies.
I guess you didn't read it huh? I wasted my time and research for you.

>>144121726
>>5.3mill copies in print
5.7 now. reprints

>>144121843
>>1 year to wait for "second" season.
October 2016

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>>144124778
>If it's so popular then it could've gotten more episodes. Instead, it got 13 episodes. You can only do that in late night anime.
What the fuck kind of logic is this?
>>144124778
>legendary timeslot (Nichigo) in MBS.
Nichigo is an offspring from the previous Saturday evening timeslot that was switched in 2008. Not sure where you get "legendary" from.
>So they must've expecting good ratings and BD sales
Yeah look how well Gundam AGE did.
>Instead, ratings were abysmal (averaging 1.9).
世帯 個人　KID　TEN　　 M1　 M2　 M3　　　F1　　F2　　F3
*1.9　*1.6　*2.5　*2.0　　*1.3　*1.2　*1.0　　*2.8　*1.8　*1.6　　　01話
*2.4　*1.2　*0.5　*0.7　　*1.6　*2.7　*0.6　　*2.5　*1.2　*0.8　　　02話
*2.2　*1.3　*1.5　*3.4　　*0.5　*1.2　*0.7　　*1.7　*1.3　*1.4　　　03話
*3.1　*1.8　*2.8　*3.8　　*1.8　*1.6　*0.8　　*2.5　*3.0　*1.2　　　04話
*1.0　*0.5　*0.1　*1.3　　*0.0　*1.7　*0.5　　*0.0　*0.1　*0.5　　　05話
*2.8　*1.7　*2.5　*2.2　　*1.4　*2.8　*1.4　　*0.9　*1.1　*1.6　　　06話
*2.3　*1.3　*1.1　*3.2　　*3.9　*1.4　*1.0　　*0.8　*1.3　*0.3　　　07話
*1.7　*0.8　*0.7　*0.8　　*2.9　*0.5　*0.7　　*2.0　*0.0　*0.6　　　08話
*2.8　*1.5　*2.3　*1.0　　*2.4　*2.8　*0.4　　*1.8　*2.1　*1.0　　　09話
*2.5　*1.2　*0.9　*2.0　　*2.7　*1.7　*1.1　　*0.4　*1.1　*0.7　　　10話
*3.1　*1.8　*1.6　*2.4　　*2.5　*3.0　*0.8　　*3.2　*3.1　*0.7　　　11話
*3.2　*1.4　*0.8　*1.0　　*3.8　*1.3　*0.6　　*1.3　*1.7　*1.8　　　12話
Next time try getting more than one episode to make a point or else you'll make a mistake and claim Sengoku Basara 2 did well when it had a huge drop after the first episode.

>Normally, a Jump anime is produced by ShoPro(Shogakukan-Shueisha Production) to advertise their books. That means BD sales doesn't matter. But this is produced by Toho Animation, which mainly relies on BD sales.
Most of this is bullshit. Shuiesha is still apart of the production committee, Toho animation is mainly the distributor of the DVD/BDs, its goal is still to promote the the manga and isn't focused on sales like every fucking shounen adaptation.

>>144116906
Popularity means almost everything since jump sells 2.4 million copies a week, every series volume sales combined doesn't even come close.
Saint Seiya was selling 800K+ and got cancelled, of course there are exceptions like gag manga and kochikame which are like mascots.

>>144117751
Isobe is officially unranked so it's rank doesn't matter.

>>144114751
Rumor is that world Trigger might go to a monthly magazine since the mangaka has health problems.

>>144125234
>That it'd sell more than 2,500 copies.
Blame the Slow Bones-senpai. People dropped the series in the first episodes by lack of impact. The pacing is the total opposite of the manga.

>>144125458
>Rumor is that world Trigger might go to a monthly magazine since the mangaka has health problems.

There weren't any rumors. Now there will be.

>>144124778
>For a series that's constantly on top of the weekly rankings, of course it'd do the same with the BD rankings.
That has been proven false all the time. Naruto sure as fuck wasn't a top seller on DVD and neither was One Piece and they're the top earning franchises from Shuiesha on merch alone.
>he anime's BD average sales are 2,500+ copies. (In comparison, Bleach's BD sales are 12,000+ and gintama 15,000+)
>Bleach
>BD

Also good job neglecting the DVD sales. Combined the BnHA has sold over 5k. Not sure why you're using Bleach as an example since that shit got canned and dropped a shit load after its first season and Gintama has also dropped to barely above 5k in its latest season.

So by itself it did much better than expected since battle shounen don'[t tend to do well on DVD/BD at all (Twin Star Exorcist)

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>>144125234
>>144125499

>That it'd sell more than 2,500 copies.
>HeroAca v1 adds 347/405, total 5,447.

With that said. Where did they say they expected it to sell more than 2,500 copies.

>>144121612
you are wrong. when a series gets cover or color page it is not ranked in that particular issue, but that does not mean it will not be voted. if you look at the voting ballot, the series will still be there as an option. so, in the issue 33, hinomaru zumou is neutral in the ranking 33 because of the cp, but it is still an option to be voted.

>>144109805
kimetsu was good on the start. now is just meh

>>144125393
>What the fuck kind of logic is this?
Doing a popular jump manga with only 13 episodes airing on a primetime? How absurd.
>Nichigo is an offspring from the previous Saturday evening timeslot that was switched in 2008. Not sure where you get "legendary" from.
It sounds good? Well, point is it was based from a popular timeslot and has become pretty popular too.
>Yeah look how well Gundam AGE did.
AGE was done by Sunrise(owned by Bandai) and Level 5(makers of Youkai Watch and Inazuma Eleven games).
>List of ratings.
That was my bad then. Though it didn't appear on the Top 10 weekly animation rankings. OP was there, Arslan was there even Magi was there.
>Sengoku Basara 2
Done by CAPCOM to advertise their game.
>Shuiesha is still apart of the production committee
Well, they did publish it in their mag.
>Its goal is still to promote the the manga and ISN'T focused on sales
Now that's bullshit.

>>144109805
>BnHA vs BC
One Piece vs Naruto all over again.
Oh dear...

>>144126138
Now we wait for the equivalent of Bleach to show up and the new big 3 is here.

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When everything i like ranks high, it's because it's good.
When everything i dont does, it's editor manipulation.

>>144126230
maybe it is going to be yaiba.

>>144122924
This is basically the Shounen version for youkai shoujo of young jump

>>144125615
>>144125615
>Totaling BD and DVD

>>144125535
Sorry, was supposed to say DVD.
Twin Star is a trainwreck.

>>144125615
Well, they wouldn't pick it up so early if they're not expecting it to sell well.

>>144122924
>There's actually a reason for these girls to fall for him, he's strong as fuck.
Yeah I kinda like that too that it is reasonable for girls to fall for him.
He is strong and he can cook that is basically a super soaker right there.

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>>144122926
>you know remember toriko being pushed to everyone's throat as the next big shounen because the mangaka was friends with Oda, then proceeded to shit the bed and being rushed. meanwhile Bleach who got pushed aside, is ending naturally and Kubo dragged the last arc like for 2 years

>>144126230
The newcomers big three are probably BNH, BC and SnS with Haikyuu assuming the Slam Dunk role

>>144126856
>SnS
>big 3

No.

>>144127185
But SnS is one of the top sellers and always is top-mid in the rankings

Why are Isobee and Kochikame unranked?

>>144126230
WT

>>144126230
Big 3 = Naruto, OP, Bleach

>>144118519
>Mfw I can only recognize Araki.

>>144127874
Those days are over, grandpa. Naruto died, only to have his corpse resurrected and put on display for Boruto.

Bleach is dying. Don't fight it. It will all be over soon.

Who the fuck knows about One Piece. I don't follow it too well so I don't know if people are fed up with Oda like they seem to be fed up with Kubo.

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>>144128018
Me to anon. He's pretty easy to recognize since he looks the same every year

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>>144122926
>Toriko

>>144127427
Kochikame is a legendary manga in Japan

Isobee is gag manga always placed in the last pages to end the magazine on a happy note

>>144126291
Nah.

For a looong time Youkai Shoujo barely even qualifies as a harem series. Most either dislike or think nothing of the MC until he proves himself slowly over time, and even then he gets two +1 in the raw chapters? at best, maybe three.

With Nisekoi ending it seems like Yuuna could be a natural replacement in the romance/harem slot. How are the volume sales?

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>>144128314
Toriko is trying to make a comeback, leave it alone.

>>144126670
>naturally
Kubo is getting axed. He dragged his feet for 4 years and all of a sudden he's finishing in less than 10 weeks? That's unnatural.

>>144118328
Sameface no Yaiba

>>144128885
Uh, Amaterasu? That can't be right.

>>144122093
Stalker threads are dead so shitposters are trying hard here

>>144127355
big 3 usually refers to jump manga or shonen jump more specifically.

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>>144125393
My dude help me understand the epsiode ratings

>>144129110
Big 3 only applies to the west.

It doesn't mean anything. Plenty enough top selling manga aren't in Jump/aren't even Shueisha (notably: SnK)

And One Piece trumps everything else so hard any comparison to it is silly and unfair.

>>144124778
>If it's so popular then it could've gotten more episodes. Instead, it got 13 episodes. You can only do that in late night anime.
It got 13 episodes because they started production before even first tankobon was out. Toho are retards

>>144128750
Nothing impressive, about 70k over 4 weeks. But it apparently had supply issues and they needed to reprint, so it definitely performed above Shueisha's expectations. Yuna's still their second highest seller from the newbies.

>>144129177
I know it is a west only thing, but usually when people in the west refer to the big 3 it is usually jump right?

>>144129336
I guess.

>>144129177
actually one punch man beat one piece in french manga sales(if you mean regarding west sales)

Jumps Big 3 sellers right now are:

One Piece
AssClass
Haikyuu

With AssClass ending Haikyuu will move up and MHA will take its place unless HxH ever comes back regularly

Looking at sales im actually amazed at how close half year Haikyuu sales are to SnK

Why is Black Clover so famous? Is just NoNaturo and SoftSauce meet Harry Potter.

>>144129414
I meant in Japan.

In the west does One Piece even sell that well? I am pretty sure in America Naruto beat it out handily.

>>144129414
I don't think one piece is nowhere as huge as it is in japan.

>>144129110
SnS is a Jump manga though

>>144129434
That's why.

It's lazy as fuck but looks nice enough and that's all you need to satisfy the majority.

Safe business decisions are safe because they work. See: Nisekoi.

>>144109805
>Where were you when the new To Love-Ru became a powerhouse in Jump?
Nisekoi has been popular for years now, hasn't it?

>>144129434
It's a cookie cutter shonen with a pretty cool setting.
After Naruto ended a huge power vacuum opened up and I guess that BC and BNHA filled that up.

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>>144129434
Thats enough for Nips.
They're fine with Bootleg Naruto.
Kind of sad since Hungry Joker, the authours previous work was so much more interesting.

>>144129496
I read it as snk sorry my bad.

>>144129451
Yeah, One Piece has gotten more popular in America recently but even 5 years ago it wasn't nearly as popular as Naruto or even Bleach. I imagine the dub being butchered by 4kids and something to do with it.

And I'm not sure about Europe but as far as I know it's always been popular there.

>>144129719
Amsterdam here.
Here the big 3 never aired in the netherlands, but I me quite a few people who watched naruto/bleach,but never watched one piece.
It was always like this.
1.naruto
2.bleach
3.one piece
that was how likely it was that people knew it or not.

>>144129451
OP is big in some Western countries. Naruto's bigger but once it ended, OP became #1 in France, Germany, and some smaller European markets. Same in Latin America, once Naruto ended, OP is #1 in Mexico and other smaller markets. And France is the biggest market for manga outside of Asia, even bigger than America.

I think MHA is going to do decently well in france going by the anime numbers

It did like 1million views on the official streaming shit there beating OPM

>>144129999
again,opm beat one piece for the number one spot in france,its no 2 now

>>144130212
not really
i read the comments of a french manga site and apparently they think academia is boring and a shitty version of opm
actual comments i mean

>>144130212
Link to the site?

>>144129474
Outside of Japan, One Piece is massive in Asia in general. The same "exotic" appeal it had in Japan had the same effect there. It's #1 in all of the East Asian territories which together dwarf the Western market.

>>144129158
It did fine. 2 is average. 3 is good,

>>144130266
Cool horseshit bro

When is the next naruto movie?

>>144129474
it is in europe

>>144130506
not horseshit butthurt academia fag
http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/actus/2016/02/16/Meilleures-ventes-manga-en-France-pour-janvier-2016

>Évidemment que je suis My Hero Academia sinon je m’abstiendrai dans parler .Les personnages de OPM sont à des années lumières de ce que propose my hero academia (qui n'a aucune originalité et qui se contente de recyclé encore une fois le nekketsu ).My hero academia a même réussi l'exploit de créer un perso encore plus chiant que sasuke en la personne de Katsuki Bakugō .Tu vas me dire il y a pire il y a black clover.Après le 1er tome de One punch Man n'est pas excellent ça devient mieux ensuite.

>>144130266
>again,opm beat one piece for the number one spot in france,its no 2 now
Source?
>>144130266
>i read the comments of a french manga site and apparently they think academia is boring and a shitty version of opm
>actual comments i mean
Source?

Now that Yaiba is save, lets discuss how the powerlevels are going to go off the rails are it is inevitable in fighting shonen

>>144130781
>one month
>in fucking January
>this means its overtaken the manga in popularity

Jesus Christ you are a fucking idiot.

>>144130781
>ribbit ribbit ribbit croak ribbit croak
wut

>>144130781
>My hero academia a même
Opinion discarded.

>>144130875
no not really
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1389877&show=50

>Best selling manga of May 2016:
http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/actus/2016/06/06/Meilleures-ventes-manga-en-France-pour-mai-2016

1) Fairy Tail vol.51
2) My Hero Academia vol.1
3) My Hero Academia vol.2
4) One-Punch Man vol.2
5) A Silent Voice vol.7
6) Tokyo Ghoul RE vol.3
7) Bleach vol.68
8) One-Punch Man vol.1
9) One Piece vol.78
10) Ajin vol.5
11) Naruto vol.70
12) Attack on Titan vol.18

Superhero manga seem to be kicking a$$ over here. The third volume of OPM which was released in June had an initial print of 130k. It will soon dethrone One Piece at this pace. Boku no Hero Academia vol.2 for its part had 50k prints which should put it just under Snk currently. TG is also slowly becoming more and more popular. Seems to have good word of mouth among the late teens and early 20 somethings/ millenials (my generation).

One-Punch Man has now claimed the all time best launch of any manga in Japan beating Death Note. Platinum End stands at number 3 pushing down Boku no Hero Academia from number 5 to number 6 among all time best launches.

This year also seems to be significantly above last year in terms of overall sales. 12.4 million manga copies were sold in 2015. I can see the number climbing to 14 or even 15 million.

Good to see Samon-kun still doing fine

>>144126110
>How absurd.
Nope. Especially nowadays when securing timeslots is more and more difficult. Arslan S2 is only 8 episodes and Nanatsu is getting a 4 episode special in replacement for a second season.
>It sounds good?
Not really. It's never been a lucrative timeslot to begin with. Compared to the Saturday evening and Tokyo 9. A popular timeslot...a decade ago
>stuff
Yeah that's beside the point it flopped hard
> Though it didn't appear on the Top 10 weekly animation rankings
Threshold was high throughout the months. Arslan S2 made it to 9# but it only scored a 2.4
>stuff
Aghain doesn't change the fact that it dropped hard in ratings after the first episode
>Now that's bullshit.
Why the fuck would Shuiesha, a manga company, give a shit about disc sales?

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>>144131172
Scans are too slow

>>144131172
Seems like Samon's ranking jumps up anytime they do a rom-com chapter. I'm surprised the author hasn't made the full switch.

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>>144130988
kek

>>144131372
The english translator also does Tokyo Ghoul, that's why

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>>144132001
oh

>>144132254
And all of them translate popular stuff that more people care about

>>144130303
http://adala-news.fr/2016/05/lanime-my-hero-academia-depasse-les-1-million-de-vues-en-france/

Google translate the site or you could find a blog post on it

>>144132254
Samon almost has 40 chapters and Dagashikashi 100 chapters, they'll never catch up because of fucking ghouls

So what's the consensus on the success of a Jump anime? Does it rely on BD sales to get a 2nd season, or a sales boost in its source material? There seems to be a widespread confusion on this.

>>144135193
>sales boost in its source material
Considering that adaptations are oftentimes advertisements for source material, I would assume it's this

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>>144135193

Disc sales don't matter, even for late night anime like Nisekoi, SnS, Assassination Classroom, etc. The anime gave these series gigantic boosts, propelling them into top 15 manga sellers. Only Nisekoi did well in disc sales and even then it was only like a 6k average.

>>144135634
Are you very sure? What about the companies that fund the anime? They want their money back, no? Why would Shueisha share their profits with them?

>>144135634
AssClass got a 2nd season due to its streaming success overseas. You're not proving anything.

>>144135776

what? the anon asked if disc sales mattered to get a second season and it clearly doesn't. How are we disagreeing?

>>144135725
Disc sales don't matter for an awful lot of things. One piece disk sales are shit, yet the anime will reach a 1000 episodes. Manga sales are important as are merchandise. Often the companies funding these anime have deals or are people with significant rights to the IP.

>>144135725
Games, figures, and random ass merchandise that cover the walls of fujoshi apartments.

>>144135634
Why did SnS only get 13 episodes, then?

>>144135900
So this article is bogus, then?

https://oneofepisodes.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/translation-why-your-favorite-anime-doesnt-have-a-second-season/

>>144136004

I don't know. Nisekoi only got 13 as well. I guess since AssClass was ending they decided to do a full adaptation?

>>144136091
Well, AssClass was more successful than both SnS and Nisekoi.

>>144136076
We're talking about Jump manga here, not random late night anime. Those do rely on disk sales, merchandise and sometimes pachniko. For adaptations of popular shounen, the bump in manga sales and merchanidise due to viewership far outways poor disk sales (keep in mind most of these aren't aired in the middle of the night so the reach is far wider)

>>144136004
Because it's a good place to stop
Jump manga hardly ever get a full anime adaption anyway. Assclass and Kuroko no Basket are the most recent ones I think

>>144109805
>Bleach is ending soon
>Nisekoi is ending soon
>Toriko is ending soon
Who will inhabit the bottom now?

>>144136589
>the bump in manga sales and merchanidise due to viewership far outways poor disk sales
It's not always the same company getting profit from both of those. If one company gets all the money and the other one doesn't get anything, that other one isn't going to make more anime.

>>144116649
>Bleach
>end quickly

>>144138318
Is Toriko ending soon? Bleach, Gintama, and Nisekoi all had announcements that they were ending soon or are in the final arc or climax.

>31. Fire Punch #1 (27,792)
Better than expected

Zumo is still selling only 30k by the way, but at least it's in the top 50

So are color pages ranked? This is another confusing aspect of the TOC.

Shitflinging aside, what were the chapters that were ranked in Black Clover for the last couple issues?

Like, I could give a shit about the current arc (DESPAIRDESPAIRDESPAIR NAKAMA NAKAMA DON'T GIVE UP) but the last arc was solid gold because of Yami.

>>144135634
How the fuck does Kingdom earn that much money?

Are they selling some super merch I never heard about? And why the fuck isn't there a dynasty warriors already

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-07-13/japanese-comic-ranking-july-4-10/.104276

>>144139866
One Piece declining yet still has a commanding lead on its closest competitor. Will Film Gold reverse the downward trend at least temporarily? The last two films were like rocket boosters for the franchise.

>>144138503
Heard they needed to do reprints so it probably could have been higher. Interested to see how well volume 2 does.

Zumou is good and underappreciated.