Schwarzesmarken / Total Eclipse / Muv Luv

>>143950564
Iris goddamn Dina

>>143950564
Iris.

>>143950564
Bea-hime.

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>>143950564
beato

Posting best girls.

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I'd rather have them both. Preferably while they are both wearing their swimsuits.

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beatrix hair is pure rage to draw.

>>143951753
Nice trace, though I agree with that statement.

>>143951839
trying too get familiar with the tool so i can make some rule34.

>NTRing whore
>mass murdering cunt
Both shit girls.

>>143953044
>mass murdering cunt
Her victims were mostly deserting TSF pilots. And they deserved it for running away from the fight while humanity faces annihilation.
>NTRing whore
no comment. you are retarded.

>>143952988
Do it my man, the more drawfags we get in these threads the better.

>>143953044
And who is a good girl in your opinion then?

>>143951753
It's why she doesn't get very much art despite being the second most popular girl.

>>143951753
It's nice!

Now give her twintails

>>143953295
Suzy.

>>143953357
You will now be known as the eternal Suzyfag, whose bait people keep falling for.

>>143953486
>Silvie-Gretel
Cute.

>>143953486
I want to mistreat this slave.

>>143950564

whynotboth.gif

Swirl!

If not an option, chocolate.

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>>143950564

How often does Beatrix cook for Jurgen? Didn't she cook for him when he returned from the East?

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>>143953486
>>143953541
>>143953521

well she did pass out in a burning flakturm.

I want to headpat her and hold her hand.

Then I would show her the inherent flaws in a centrally planned economy and force her to accept capitalism as the most efficient and humane economic model.

>>143954050
2lewd4me.

>>143953956
Didn't she send weekly packages with cakes, cookies and so forth? It would make sense that one of the first things she'd do for him when he gets leave is to cook for him.

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>>143954050
>capitalism

to gulag with you.

>>143954050
I'd say the totalitarianism is the worst part of a communist system. Absolute state control of the economy is a close second. Capitalism is about maximizing profit. It's a force of neutrality. Unfettered, it can be good or evil, humane or inhumane, and ethical or unethical depending on legal constraints, public scrutiny, or individual actors. It is not a good thing by itself, even if it is the model that works best in 9/10 cases.

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Stupid hair. i will probably ruin the face with hair.

fuck off with your samefagging

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>>143954551
>>143954551

think about it like actual hair. she has her bangs, yes, then she has her sideburns pulled back and probably a sort of ponytail holding the rest of it together in the back.

>>143955060

fake troll still bumping the thread. Hi.

>>143953486
Milf Gretel is cute, but it's still Gretel.

I don't see how this can be fixed.

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>>143955137
i hate hair. will try to fix later. it should look better with colors. next up are feet nipples and vag.

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>>143956447

I want to jizz in her hair while she is asleep.

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Is she autistic?

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>>143956447
You're not doing her in her fortified suit?

Come on, at least an elegant blouse?

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>>143958417

no, she's a 15 year old girl.

that said she'll learn the error of her ways. If not with her brain, then with her body.

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>>143958570
No. Nude first. At the moment i'm just mostly testing shit out and learning. Literally started to try to draw/trace around 6 hours ago.

Irisdina is a terrible person who never helped anyone if it didn't benefit her.

Are all the SW BD's released by now? Are they split in four volumes?

>>143959427
Six volumes, of which four are out.

>>143959463

Thanks senpai. Do you happen to know when the last volume will be released?

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>>143959334

That's ok, it means you can fuck her in the butt without feeling bad about it later

>>143959613
The only way I'm touching this AIDS-filled slut is with my fists against her face. Repeatedly.

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>tfw no Yugoslavia front VN

>>143959587
No idea. But googling it will probably tell you.

Lise is gross.

Brazilians are all latent homosexuals.

>>143961544
>latent

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>>143959613
Irisdina has a cute ass, Beatrix presumably has a sexy one.

>>143961844
They both have very punchable faces and AIDS because they're dumb whores

What are these threads for? Age never has any news and aren't working on anything and the crap anime is over.

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>>143962002
But both of them carry sidearms. They'll shoot you if you're a threat.

You will get killed without a fight as I'm pretty sure guns are banned in all favelas.

>>143962121
http://store.steampowered.com/app/449830/

Martyrs releases in a couple of months as well.

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I want to protect that smile!

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Sumika is for

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>>143963145
fixing!

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>>143963145
stomping

>>143963145
Marriage.

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>>143963126
Good man.

>>143963145
Marrying Takeru since both Brats deserve each other.

>>143963245

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Fucking Beatrix gently in a sex swing so you don't break her hip because she has osteoporosis from all the kids she popped out.

Kissing Beatrix after she takes her bridge out and darting your tongue in and out of the gaps where she's missing teeth.

Rubbing cocoa butter into Beatrix's stretchmarks in an ultimately pointless attempt to give her the taught, lean tummy of her youth.

Massaging Beatrix's feet and putting new moleskin on her bunions to keep her from getting blisters.

Buying depends for Beatrix because pushing a dozen babies out of her vagina did a number on her bladder and urethra and left her incontinent.

Knowing it was your baby batter that did all that to her body.

Dyeing my hair red, putting on a Stasi uniform and trying to talk to Lise just to see how quickly she snaps out of PTSD

>>143963677

Ketchup and Theo had the same hair color though. If you're white, you have blue eyes, so dying your hair red will just make Lise fuck you until your ball sack drops off.

>>143963627
Anon, Beatrix is a born breeding Machine, she'll remain a very healthy MILF even after popping out 20 kids.

>>143963755
Then, change fo plans. I would need blue-colored eye-lenses.

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>>143953486
>short hair
mfw

but at least is a new fan art

>>143963627
The fuck you gonna do with all those kids man? Yo ass better have a job or else you'll be a male dependa living off of Beato's military paycheck.

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After spending the whole evening drinking heavily, Anett wakes up in your bed. What happens?

>>143951211
Posting
>>143959812
suffering
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEAXIoBPhBQ

>>143964003
We had a good time at the club?

We got drunk and talked into the morning because I found her last night sobbing, about to shoot up, and told her there was a better way?

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>>143963846

She'll see right through them. Just like you won't when they eventually make you go blind. Luckily for me, this is the only time when being a redhead comes in handy. Also serious injuries because we don't really feel pain. It's more of a "Gee, I wish this would stop." instead of an "Oh God, Oh, God, Make it stop! Make it stop! Oh please, God! Make it stop!"

Except that one time I got an anal fistula. that shit hurts.

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>>143963960

gonna put them all in the Washington State Air National guard, aka WANG.

basically, the Air National Guard is never going to leave CONUS because of the threat of domestic unrest, and they still get all the neat goodies that come with being a TSF pilot. They might even get to kill lesser human beings than Americans, or if they're lucky, traitorous Americans, which are a treat to kill.

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Who /NVA/ here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWC_fcr6V-0

>>143964299
>Guard
What's it like not being in the real Air Force?
At least you're not the reservists.

Irisdina deserves to marry an abusive drunk who would beat her every day until she cries

>>143964567
So, someone like her dad?

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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE

>>143964595
Worse.
She's a scumbag, and deserves to marry a scumbag too.

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>>143964299
>Chairforce version of the National Guard.
Goddamn, so you guys are like the POGest of the POGs.

>>143964567

That's a lie, I'm not abusive abnormal she'd only cry because she decided to marry me and her self respect has been irreversibly shattered by that decision.

>>143964444

All the benefits of active duty without being deployed to Thule or raking gravel.

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Even if she is a secondary, Gretel will always be the main heroine of my heart

>>143964717
You guys are okay but often way too civilianized for my tastes. Y'all don't even stand when officers walk into a room.
>raking gravel
You're thinking of Army or Marine infantry battalions, not even cops get assigned this crap without getting it as extra duty for fucking up.

>>143964903
I want to hit her nose with a newspaper.

>>143964115
>Except that one time I got an anal fistula. that shit hurts.
don't ever get a urethral swab

Protestants are a crime against nature and God.

>>143965232
Looks like the Catholic indoctrination is still strong in Hueland.

Protestants are heretics and Catholics are satanists.

>>143965232
t.Ferdinand II

>>143965344
But Irisdina is a spawn of Satan.

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>>143965344

>>143965436
She's converted to Lutheranism, that makes her a heretic, dickbreath.

>>143965517
That's not the point.
The point is that she's a disgusting abomination against everything good. Even Axmann is not that bad.

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>>143965631
>Do you really believe that? If she really sold out her family, you'd expect her to do other, worse things as well. But since that day she's fought proudly and nobly on the battlefield.
Episode 2 of the anime says this.

You're literally lower on the rung than an animeonly, how does that feel?

>>143965871
That doesn't change the face that she's still a scumbag just like Lise, Inghilde and Beatrix.
She deserves to die way more slowly and painfully.

To those who have completed TE -

Who were the guys with the submarine during the Guadeloupe arc? Did they dump Yuuya and Yui on the island on purpose? Who were the soldiers in the jungle and who came to "pick them up"?

And lastly, how is the Master involved?

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People still fall for the eternal Suzyfag's bait.

>>143966103
He's not even a Suzyfag. He's underneath animeonlies.

What would that make him? Braindead?

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don't be harsh on him

autism is very prevalent among favela monkeys

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i'm getting better at this. Beato head will go on that lewd body

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>>143966353

>>143966140
>He's not even a Suzyfag
Its a nickname, see >>143953357 & >>143953411.

>What would that make him? Braindead?
I believe he does it because it amuses him, but Braindead is a good alternative interpretation.

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So which version is the best?

>>143966493
None because short hair

>>143966442
>Its a nickname
I see where you came up with that now, but he's still underneath animeonlies.

That means he probably doesn't comprehend even Suzy.

>>143965871
So does that mean that Iris really isn't responsible for Jurgen's death?

>>143966594
She pulled the trigger, there's no escaping that.

The real focus should be on the factors that lead to that and ultimately required it.

>>143966594
It means we don't know. She probably was responsible in some way but not willingly-

>>143966594
It could also mean that she truly regrets her actions, which is more in line with the final lines they gave her in the anime.

>>143966493
Long hair version, what kind of question is that
also, nice clothes it really fits her well

>>143966657
>Whoreisdina
>capable of remorse
Pick one. We all know sociopaths don't know what remorse and regret are.

>>143966493
The one where she has more burns and no glasses.

Reminder Suzy is actual sociopath.

Reminder that Suzy is a name that has lineage from Hebrew.

The Jews are to blame for SM.

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>>143954050
>accept capitalism as the most efficient
Don't let the Stasi catch you saying that

>>143967076
what is her family name? Goldstein?

>>143967407
it's Axmann

>>143967432
Axmann is a Jewish surname as well.

Russian Revolution, WW2, and now this.

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>But lack of quality and detail,this anime will become a piece of advertisement for LN and VN only.

The Chinks really don't like this anime for some reason.

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>>143967996
Beatrix was right

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>>143967996
They are mostly Beatofags and Lisefags. And though fun to watch, I didn't enjoy Watanabe's character butchery either.

Also: BEATRIX DID NOTHING WRONG! Well actually plenty, but not the things they usually blame her for.

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something feels wrong and i don't know what. HALP!

>>143968357
You've come too far to stop now.

>>143968383
Pfffft, he's barely scraping the surface

>>143968357
I think its the fact that the posture implies that she is facing you, and the face isn't. Or the tits, there are a few lines missing, but shading can fix that, once its in colour.

>>143968472
>I think its the fact that the posture implies that she is facing you, and the face isn't.
It's not that bad if you asked me, it should work out if the eyes are focused on the viewer.

>>143964717

>same as ACDU
>no TRICARE unless activated for over 31 days or you buy TRS
>RESRET instead of regular retirement unless you somehow accrue 20+ years ACDU time

Yeah, nah, that's wrong. And that's the tip of the iceberg there.

>>143968782
>, it should work out if the eyes are focused on the viewer.

True. But now that I think about it adding some expression to the face wouldn't harm it either.

>>143966493

>search turns up nothing

Uncensored sauce? Or does it even exist?

>>143969491
It's already uploaded on pixiv

>>143951211
Kouki, is that you?

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>>143951628
Good taste.

>>143969640

Is it new? I was browsing the Schwarzesmarken tag on there three days ago and didn't see it.

>>143969836
Ugly hookers.

>>143969854
Yes, brand new

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>>143968472
>>143968782
is it better like this?

>>143969971
Neither are bad. Just pick the one you prefer, just remember to add some focus on the viewer.

>>143969062
Hey, it's only fair since he doesn't get fucked by Big Blue constantly.

>>143969971
Yes. Definitely, Yes.

>>143969971
How long do you think it'll take for you to finish?

Punching all blondes for being shit girls!

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Impregnating all blondes for being best girls among best girls!

>>143970905
Brunettes > Blondes. The darker the hair the better.

>>143970762
very long. I'm doing this for the first time and i'm learning as i go.

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>>143970905

>>143971163
Does the darker hair go better with your dark soul?

How many punches to the face should Irisdina receive for being such a shit girl?

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>>143971163
Blondes = Brunettes.

Some girls are more equal than others. I won't deny that some brunettes/dark hair girls are among the top echelon.

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>>143971163

>>143966594
We will never know for sure until BiS covers that.

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>>143971403
Redheads >>> everyone else.

>>143971527
Lise please

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>>143971527
Even Theo disagrees with you.

>>143971873
>blonde Beatrix
Everytime.

>>143971873
Theo is kinda retarded so best not take his opinions seriously.

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>>143971948
So by your own admission redheads aren't better than everyone else.

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>>143971921
Are you blind? That's clearly just Lise with her hair down.

Would Katia make a good pet, as long as you keep her out of politics?

>>143971921
>Beatrix
Anon...

>>143971921
At least you got the squad right.

>>143972011
Hair color doesn't mean shit alone without a good personality, while I prefer redheads, there aren't all that much good redheads.

>>143972079
>>143972117
>>143972147
No bully. How big are Lise's boobs?

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Define "big" in muv luv universe?

>>143972323
Notably large for her small frame.

>>143972323
As big as Theo wants them to be. And getting bigger all the time.

>>143972374
If RL Sweden didn't turn into the hottest cuckspot on the planet, would more women like this exist?

I want Anette to beat me up.
I'd even provoke her with Inghild jokes.

>>143965631
you're selectively determining which particular instances 'matter', which shows that in fact you have no idea nor care about what evil actually is

>>143972773
A blonde cunt like Irisdina, who by the way deserves to be chopped into little pieces with an axe starting with her legs so she doesn't die quickly and fed to pigs, is evil.

>>143972899
Why you are so analdevastated about Iris?

>>143972899
nothing in that reply did anything to address what I said

>>143972974
>>143973046
Its bait anon. Its always the same guy, and he has been at it the whole day.

>>143972974
Because she's everything I hate. She's a blonde, a religious person and a protestant, has shit unlikable personality and is extremely ugly, even as a kid/teen

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>>143973267

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>>143971790
>The two most prominent men in her life aside from her father have the same blood red shade of hair
>One she loves unconditionally above all else
>The other she hates with every fiber of her being.
Lise doesn't judge or base her taste on physical traits. She falls in love with the person behind the facade. Even if they're a loner anti-social orphan that acts abrasive to drive everyone away out of fear of being hurt.

>>143973267
>She's a blonde
You have bad taste.
>a religious person
Nothing wrong with Christians.
>a protestant
Depends on the denomination.
>has shit unlikable personality
You haven't seen any of the material.
>and is extremely ugly
You have bad taste.
>even as a kid/teen
aka, "I looked at the BiS images people post and that's it!"

Can you make a coherent thought without looking like a blatant equator monkey?

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>>143973524
What's supposed to be likable about her? The closest to a good deed was talking a Polish slut out of committing suicide, and even that is arguable because no one sane would care about one less useless Pole on Earth.

>>143973684
>What's supposed to be likable about her?
You don't understand nor do you want to. If its been this long after the anime has finished and you're still unironically wondering this then I really can't help you.
>The closest to a good deed was talking a Polish slut out of committing suicide, and even that is arguable because no one sane would care about one less useless Pole on Earth.
And if you killed yourself that would be one less useless favela monkey stealing oxygen.

>>143973783
She was a complete cunt in anime, though.
So was the Pole slut. In fact, Irisdina would've been way more likable if she encouraged the Pole to kill herself.

>>143973929
>She was a complete cunt in anime, though.
Like I just finished saying, I really can't help you.

It's really not within my control to force you not to selectively ignore the multitude of dumps and posters explaining why the anime is so bad and why the characters are not bond villains.

We should really talk about your eagerness to be willfully ignorant.

>>143974125
I doubt LN/VN are all that different when it comes to characterizations.
Lise, Anett and the Pole are still dumb bitches who instead of sucking it up are being annoying.
Irisdina and Beatrix are still cunts.

The only truly likable SM character is Axmann, but for some reason he's a villain even though he's done nothing that's not expected from a military officer and we're supposed to believe he's bad because Lise is a whiny bitch.

The eternal Suzyfag strikes again. Its the third time in this thread alone and people still fall for his bait. I don't know if I should laugh or cry.

>>143974318
>I doubt LN/VN are all that different when it comes to characterizations.
I can safely ignore the rest of your post solely on this, since you're factually incorrect. There's no easy way to say it, you're just objectively wrong in every meaning those words have in the English language.

It all circles back to what I was saying about you, don't you see? You selectively ignored the last sentence of my post.

Why are you choosing to remain ignorant?

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>>143967996
>>143968064
>>143968192
Before she was everyone's waifu, she was nobody's.

>>143974657
Baito de gozaru!

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>>143974657
Fixed

>>143974657
>threads during anime being aired
>>143974771
>threads after anime was over
FTFY.
I remember all the Lise/Beato bashing when the anime was on.

>>143974850
>I remember all the Lise/Beato bashing when the anime was on.
Most fun was lise bashing.

>>143974850
>I remember all the Lise/Beato bashing when the anime was on.
That would be due to the Katiafags.

Don't you wonder where they all went?

>>143974318
>only truly likable SM character is Axmann

you do know that they took Beatrix's charisma away and gave it to Axmann in the anime do you? Thats why so many anime-onlies like him. in the LN he is cruel and sadistic and rules through fear and terror.

>>143958417
No, but clearly she doesn't like beer.

>>143974924
Dropped their seasonal waifu and run off

>>143974741
>beatrix adds de gozaru to everything she says
How much does she improve?

>>143975002
>he is cruel and sadistic and rules through fear and terror.
Nothing wrong with that. It makes sense for an officer. I know that Lise had to bash some rebel kids' brains in in LN, and her being upset by that doesn't make any sense.

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will finish the hair next. should i make tits larger?

>>143975240
>I know that Lise had to bash some rebel kids' brains in in LN, and her being upset by that doesn't make any sense.
>This entire lack of understanding for the Human conscious
Here I thought you didn't reply to my question because you were trying your hand at improving but it seems you've quickly slipped back. Are you taking medication for that, little BR? Could be the eyes. Or the brain. Judging from how you don't understand what the horrors of war can do to children, probably both.

>>143975261
a bit bigger I think. it isn't stated but she's probably a full E-cup

>>143975318
Why are you so obsessed with "fixing" him? You can't cure retarded.

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>>143975103
>seasonal waifu

>>143975397
Because I don't work on Sundays and I'm bored.

If you want me to stop I'll make it a strong consideration to do so.

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>>143975261
Only a bit bigger, Beatrix does look better with slightly smaller tits than the VN version.

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>>143975538
Carnelian-drawn boobs are what should be adhered to.

>>143975437
Why do you think they all left, save for the occasional one who shitposts?

I think most of the SM girls are shit, especially compared to the trilogy girls, where Tama is the only shit.

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>>143975589
In most of the other official art, her breasts are smaller.

It's funny because the VN downsized most of the cast's breast, except Beatrix, who still retains her fat tats. While there was competition in the LN, in the VN, Beatrix is the undisputed titty queen of SM.

>>143975589
Carnelian gradualy increased Beato's breastsize over time. But in the begining she was spot on.

>>143975642
ML suffers from getting better artists and worse writers, there is no doubting that. But I wouldn't call any girls shit. The worst are only bland and generic.

>>143975777
Nice Jurgen trips.

The image you posted doesn't really look much different than the one I did. I'd argue the fortified suit acts as a proxy push-up bra.

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Ehh, in the interest of bumping I'll post it.

Its only faces, and only 2/3 ML related, but bash away /a/. Need more criticism on my sketches to git gud anyway.

>>143976760
left is your best one here.
middle is like downs + FAS
right needs a face lift

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>>143976760
You can do it. Left needs some work on the ears and a slightly thinner neck, middle just comes off as awkward since you're trying to show a different perspective but the forehead is too large. Right is okay, but I think the face is just a tad bit misshapen for what you're trying to achieve, it's small so it makes the eyes and nose feel awkward and the jaw is a bit too square.

>>143975261
>trace edit
What's the point? When it's done it just isn't satisfying. Just learn how to draw for real.

>>143977904
This is the result of the free market intervening. The lack of Beatrix is being addressed.

>>143977904
I don't know about that. Shooping is intensely satisfying.

>>143976760
Are these drawn at a small scale? Looking at your photo/scan and the pencil marks I'm going to assume it is. Unless you really like making thick lines.

Draw at a larger scale. It gives you more freedom with controlling the curves of your sketches. You still need to break out of that stiff blocky look.

Would you watch a sitcom about Lise and Katia living together?

>>143979700
Doing what? Whats the hook?

>>143979700
No.

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This anime is so stupid. I can't get over how they changed some of the characters like Schmidt. Schmidt in the novel was a greedy dirtbag who got into his position of power by backstabbing the prior minister. He wanted to destroy East Germany with nukes when he didn't get his way. He had a very bad relationship with Beatrix, who he continually harassed, either with sexual innuendo (Schmidt molesting Beatrix and her Werewolves shows up in a lot of their fanfiction) or bringing up Irisdina and her brother, implying that Beatrix was a traitor. He called her shit like "big breasted bimbo" or "stupid whore." He also tries to martyr or poison her at times. Beatrix, likewise, didn't like him very much, blaming him for the state of the country and allowing the rebellion to fester.

In the anime, they made them friendly towards one another, to the point that Schmidt made her the second in command, and Beatrix kills him because he was an agent of the KGB.

Here's the thread over on the Chinese web:
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4660633528

>>143980339
You ever consider that your chink translations are wrong, Chinaman?

>>143980339
>friendly towards one another
I think it was just one of those things where you have to assume everything was just a facade and that they actually did want to slit each others throats. Beatrix was just waiting for the moment and she got it.

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the burns make her moe

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>>143981941

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>>143981941
and then have her guest star in Katawa Shoujo.

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>>143982013

>>143982353
You mean "Teaching Commie Feelings"

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>>143982353
Not enough crippled, better have it as a DDR verssion of Balalaika

>>143981941
>>143982013
What the hell is wrong with you anon? You're making milf Gretel cute. Gretel should never be cute.

>>143983796
>MILF
she looks like normal Gretel

Just finished episode 3. God this show is fucking cringey. The whole meeting between Irisdina and Theo in the abandoned church in particular makes about no sense if you didn't have some knowledge beforehand.

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>>143985673
Yep its pretty crap for the most part. But there is one saving grace.

>>143985826
The girls have been kind of underwhelming to be honest.

>>143985826
It really sets in stone some foreshadowing about Theo's incompetent naivety at best and tells you he's a dumb dumb who changes what he believes as soon as someone tells him to.

He truly is the perfect useful idiot.

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>>143986156
Well you're at the three episode rule anon. No one would blame you for dropping it.

>>143983934
I dunno, especially short hair, makes her look milfy. That and the dress. And she seems taller.

>>143981941
>>143982013
Silvie Gretel a cute.

>>143979685
Small? None of these drawings is more than 3cm wide. Its a side effect of trying to mantain scale when you only have a A4 to draw full bodies. But criticism taken, will see what I can do.

>>143986300
>It really sets in stone some foreshadowing about Theo's incompetent naivety at best and tells you he's a dumb dumb who changes what he believes as soon as someone tells him to.

So someone got him right, huh? Problem is most people don't interpret him that way, and it doesn't seem that the director wanted that angle.

>>143986692
Its Silvie's dress form Teaching feeling anon. Its not meant to be MILF Gretel, even if she feels MILFy to you.

>>143986300
He's also the only member of the 666th who can look someone in the eye and coldly kill them without getting more fucked up in the head.

Anime turns them all into killers though.

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>>143986855
Iris would like to have a word with you.

>>143986692
She went back to the haircut from her high school days and the dress is on spot (she don't wear warm colour clothes, save for her winter coat)
Also, she is 20 in 1983 I don't think you can grow up more much by that age

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>>143986778
>So someone got him right, huh? Problem is most people don't interpret him that way, and it doesn't seem that the director wanted that angle.
Well, he's pretty much an angsty teen who doesn't trust anyone. He's a shell, that much was obvious.

It's just in Episode 2 and 3 Katia comes out of nowhere and all of a sudden the emotions he disconnected (as evidenced by refusing to fraternize with Pham and frequently stating he doesn't care about the deaths/fate of others) burst through like a busted dam as soon as Gretel says "wow really makes u think" and he meets Irisdina. It took me 15 minutes to get through the 4 minute AA meeting between the two that really came out in bad taste.

Iris is a cutie though.

>>143986778
>Teaching feeling

Aurelia is best girl

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>>143986925
Iris doesn't do it with the gusto that Theo does. In any case, putting a mortally wounded individual out of their misery is very different then killing or executing people.

>>143987066
Iris, Katia, and Gretel are the most popular for a reason.

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>>143987213

>>143987066
You seem to have a feeling for the subtle, Anon. Post your impressions on Lise and Beatrix once you are done, as you seem to pick up things that most people miss and LN/VN and /a/ ignores out of (justified) prejudice.

>>143987213
Only among animeonlies. With Iris exepted of course.

>>143987213
Iris is my favorite so far. The only girl who I hate is that one stasi chick.

>>143987317
>You seem to have a feeling for the subtle, Anon. Post your impressions on Lise and Beatrix once you are done, as you seem to pick up things that most people miss and LN/VN and /a/ ignores out of (justified) prejudice.
In Episode 4, Lise starts off as a really bad liar. She walked past the elephant in the room and willingly broke protocol when she hugged her brother, her salute just before was pretty gross as well (Funnily enough Katia saluting Kurt has been the best in the show so far). I really don't think she didn't see one of the handful of redheads present. I'll probably have a better understanding after the next 3 episodes.

>>143987820
>I'll probably have a better understanding after the next 3 episodes.
You poor child.

>>143988017
Keep on trucking is despite what they may say a psyops phrase.

Gretel somehow got more people for the "wow really makes u think" meetings and are convincing Theo that Lise is a spy. It's weird since Katia's entrance to the DDR is as Beatrix earlier said suspicious as fuck and these guys are acting like Lise appearing is somehow crazier.

>>143987820
Ah that scene. Compare the two if you feel inclined.
https://u.pomf.is/vnpgrt.mp4

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>>143987066
Hope you won't be too disappointed to learn that you're on the Katia route, not the Iris.

>>143987317
Not sure about Lise, she's obviously stasi, but Beatrix seems like an evil bitch using the alien situation to fuck with people.

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>>143987820
>her salute just before was pretty gross as well
Finally someone else noticed this.

>>143987332
>>143988533
Watanabe strikes again. But carry on anon, I can't really blame you, there is a huge difference after all between her goals being stated in the third chapter and them being thrown as throwaway lines in the last episode and all her positive traits being thrown out the window. . Keep posting.

>>143988786
>being surprised someone trained by the Stasi has a horrible salute
Like the SS were, the Stasi aren't real military, just political thugs playing soldier dress-up, of course they can't into properly rendering courtesies.

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Fuckin eh, this guy really is a useful idiot. Gets told to find out what Lise knows and instead answers her questions with implications that he knows more than he should. He then forgets what he just did and tells Katia he's going to correct the record, the mixed signals are almost palpable.

>>143988465
That would most certainly explain why he changes a lifestyle of intentionally being a prick to make people dislike him so he doesn't feel bad when they do just from meeting the daughter of a guy who tried Operation Valkyrie 2.0

Also, TOMCATS FUCK YEAH

>>143988786
Axmann gave a fucking crusty salute (even first to people like 5 ranks below him) that made me feel embarrassed. I'm not military but even I know better.

>>143988915
Those two posts you quoted aren't me. I'm trying to post an image with every reply but my internet is ass right now.

>>143980339
Gookposters should go home

>>143988786
>inbred
>wants to only be with her onii-chan
It all makes sense now.

>>143989618
They are related in the same sense you and me are related.

>>143989134
>Axmann gave a fucking crusty salute (even first to people like 5 ranks below him) that made me feel embarrassed. I'm not military but even I know better.

Axmann and the rest of the stasi are just murders, thugs, rapists and sociopaths used by the government to keep people in fear and under control. They don't care about military protocol, and would actively subvert them because they're douchebags like that.

>>143989134
Don't worry, Theo will "take care" of Lise in the best way possible.

>>143989659
>that vitriol
Is that you, eternal Suzyfag?

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>>143989659
And on top of it all they kidnap and torture little girls. Communism not even once.

>>143989659
t. Theo

But really, the Stasi been stupid evil it makes no sense with the BETA at the borders of the DDR, I mean the BETA are going to destroy everything regardless of the political affiliation
Is this a case of GRIMDARK for the sake of grimdark only?

>>143989838
Fuck Beatrix
Fuck Axmann
Fuck Schmidt

and fuck whatever hole they crawled out of

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>>143989780

>>143989912
fuck off Suzy

>>143989900
Well, Axmann and Schmidt do it for power/ideological reasons. Some of them, like Lise do it because they were brainwashed. Beatrix is the only one who's doing it because she gets her kicks from it.

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>>143989912
>Fuck Beatrix
That'd be the plan, yes.

>>143990050
That looks more like Katia.

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>>143990027
>Some of them, like Lise do it because they were brainwashed. Beatrix is the only one who's doing it because she gets her kicks from it.

>>143990112
Whatever her stated end goals, you have to admit that she really, really enjoys hurting people.

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>>143990112
At least he got the first part right.

>>143990201
It's a bit alarming that your mind can distort reality that much. Like that little girl from the Walking Dead who ended up killing her sister because she just couldn't see things for what they are.

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She has it backwards, they're just advancing in another direction.

She really is some sort of west point graduate. Doesn't everyone know incoming fire has the right of way?

>>143990540
No, she went to the Militärpolitische Hochschule Wilhelm Pieck (Military Political Academy Wilhelm Pieck)

>>143990540
>west point
You said you're not military but you sure seem to use phrases common to it. What's the deal?

>>143991060
I'm an armchair general. I'm in the middle of joining the navy, for what it's worth.

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>>143990251
She has a pretty huge grin on her face whenever she's killing other humans. Compare it to when she's fighting BETA and she looks almost bored. She gets off on other people's misery. It's abundantly clear. Sure, she might say it's for the greater good, but when you look at her behavior the other 99% of the time, you see that she's really doing all of it for herself.

>>143991126
>joining the gayest branch
For what purpose?

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>>143991126
How's this salute?

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>>143988786
Meh she's inside don't need a cover. And none of them but Walther have regulation hair because Muv-luv girls need their long flowing hair for the audience to gawk at. Chalk the poor form up to Watanabe not knowing what he's doing.

>>143991210
>it's a "animeonly tries to convince people who've read the source material or at the least spoilers" episode

>>143991210
That picture cracks me up for some reason. Seeing all that evil back to back is hilarious.

>>143991246
Not him but see the rest of my post.
>>143991294
>Meh she's inside don't need a cover.
That's the point. You don't fucking salute indoors because you don't have a cover.

>>143991512
>You don't fucking salute indoors because you don't have a cover.

Airman here. You do salute while indoors for some specific situations (like ceremonies or reporting to the commander).

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>>143991232
I live in a port. My immediate family also does as well, so it all works out.
>>143991246
Looks like the rest, trash. At the least the hand is at the eyebrow.

>>143991650
Huh, I guess some branches do have different situational protocols for that. Groundside troops certainly don't do that.

>>143991650
Yeah I see it happen all the time at quarterly awards and such. As for reporting, I've only ever seen it when you have to report in service dress, which we all know isn't a good thing.

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>>143991671
Since we're on the topic of salutes this is honestly the finest, sharpest salute I've seen in any Muv-Luv media. It's the cover that makes the difference.

>You will never call Beatrix "Betty" and play that one song by Ram Jam

>>143986778
>>143987066
It's not that simple though. You guys are too really falling for the 'he's a useful idiot' meme.

Y'all really need to read the VN. Well I guess it's not in English, so that's understandable.

>>143994357
Exactly. Theo is intelligent and matures into a great leader. He's a man of principles, willing to stand up for what he believes in even if he has to kill a family member (and in a way, he was saving her from herself when he shot her). Despite his fear, he continually puts himself in danger to protect those that matter to him. Finally, he does not show mercy to those who do not deserve it. Theo is not a "useful idiot," he is a hero that everyone should aspire to be.

>>143994629

t.Master

>>143994629
>Exactly. Theo is intelligent and matures into a great leader.
no
>He's a man of principles
hard no
>willing to stand up for what he believes in even if he has to kill a family member (and in a way, he was saving her from herself when he shot her). Despite his fear, he continually puts himself in danger to protect those that matter to him.
cognitive dissonance? his stepdad told him to protect his sister. you can't protect someone if you kill them.
>Finally, he does not show mercy to those who do not deserve it.
no
>Theo is not a "useful idiot," he is a hero that everyone should aspire to be.
he's a goy that doesn't have any beliefs, so like the weak broken man he was he latched on the first person to treat him good

if lise got to him first he probably would have joined the werewolves

>>143994776
>if lise got to him first he probably would have joined the werewolves

No. Theo hated the stasi. The only thing he wanted to do when he saw Beatrix was either run away or stab her in the gut. Later, when he found out Lise was a stasi, he basically disowned and distanced himself from her because he was so disgusted with her.

>>143994957
>No. Theo hated the stasi.
and he hated Irisdina too.
>The only thing he wanted to do when he saw Beatrix was either run away or stab her in the gut.
he either wanted to run away or fuck her. you need to remember that he strongly considered defecting when she offered
>Later, when he found out Lise was a stasi, he basically disowned and distanced himself from her because he was so disgusted with her.
or because he dropped her for another woman because like it was previously said he would latch on to the first to talk to him

he's like one of those kids who crushes on everyone but would shoot up the school if nobody talked to him

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>>143995297
>you need to remember that he strongly considered defecting when she offered
He wouldn't because of Katia. All he was thinking about was what a monster Beatrix was and how he had to protect Katia from her.

>or because he dropped her
He wasn't really interested in Lise to begin with.

>he's like one of those kids who crushes on everyone but would shoot up the school if nobody talked to him

That's rather unfair. Theo is one of the more moral characters in Schwarzesmarken.

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>>143994957
>he basically disowned and distanced himself from her because he was so disgusted with her.
You really do have a very low level of comprehension. He admits himself that he failed her.
She hated the Stasi too, but sold herself out so that he could have a chance at a better life while they messed her up big time. And after that he continues to make retarded choices that only make things worse.

>>143995633
>He wasn't really interested in Lise to begin with.
Now that's a straight up lie.

>that filename
I'm starting to wonder if you actually are autistic.

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>>143995819
History is doomed to repeat itself.

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>>143995819
>He admits himself that he failed her.
Honestly, Lise was the one who fucked up more. But I guess she was pretty much insane by that point, so it's difficult to really blame her. It does seem counter-productive to kill people who were nice and genuinely wanted to help you for someone who goes out of her way to fuck you and be a bitch. All this to save a person that you were trying to bring over to your side so he could be as miserable as you, and failing that, trying to murder him. She didn't even try to capture him.

>Now that's a straight up lie.
Not in the way that she was. He loved her, but it definitely wasn't romantic.

>I'm starting to wonder if you actually are autistic.
Resorting to insults now?

>>143996110
>Jurgen sacrifices so Iris can live
>Lise sacrifices so Theo can live
Pottery indeed.

>there are still animeonlies on /a/
I don't get it. This isn't /m/.

>>143996452
She was trying to capture him the whole time. It was precisely to save him from what she reasonably saw as a idiotic decision to try and fight the stasi on their turf instead of escaping while they have the chance like their parents wanted for them from the beginning. Apparently when Papa Hohenstein shouted "Protect Lise" she heard "Protect Theo" while he buckled under the pressure.

You know its possibly for more than one point of view to be right or make sense? Someone doesn't have to be objectively wrong, thats not how the world works.

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>>143996502
Love toppled the Berlin Wall. Love gave Theo the courage to obliterate the evil that festered in the heart of East Germany, and love, an emotion that was absent in both Beatrix and Axmann and one that they had attempted to purge from Germany, was what brought those two to their knees and delivered justice onto them. True love gave Jurgen the courage to give his life for Irisdina. All of them "saved in the name of true love."

Is their anything more powerful then love?

>>143996852
There's no thread up on /m/.

>>143997022
You know in the anime that she was aiming for his cockpit even though he was disabled, right?

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>>143997059
>an emotion that was absent in both Beatrix
>True love gave Jurgen the courage to give his life for Irisdina.

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>>143997120
So when he refused to surrender, she figured the only way to save him was to kill him?
That sure sounds familiar.

>>143997059
>Is their anything more powerful then love?
your shitposting

also
>Bundesadler
erry time

>>143997244
He was disabled. She could've removed his arms and legs and carried his torso unit back with her, but she did not. Instead, she tried to kill him.

>>143997192
Iris won the Jurgenbowl in the end. She was the one he gave his life for and was the last person he was with.

>>143997365
>Iris won the Jurgenbowl in the end. She was the one he gave his life for and was the last person he was with.
You're so wrong I don't even feel angry. When I read this I feel the exact same way I felt when it was announced the anime and LN were Katia's route.

Pure disappointment.

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>>143997322
And Theo could have stopped after he disabled her when he knocked out her visuals and carried her torso unit back with him, but he did not. Instead, he smashed his shield into her cockpit and then shot her.

>>143997477
Theo had way more of a reason to want her dead then she him.

>>143997427
>When I read this I feel the exact same way I felt when it was announced the anime and LN were Katia's route.

Why was that so disappointing? We all had kind of figured that out by episode 3.

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>>143997857
He was willing to kill her for the same reason she was willing to kill him, to "save them from themselves". Of course were just talking about the anime here. She would never do anything to directly harm him if she could avoid it in the LN. Theo on the other hand

>>143998144
I think in the LN, she lost to Theo because of her unwillingness to go for the kill. It's why the Japs still rank her as being better then Theo (about Walter level if not better) despite losing to him.

>>143995297
>and he hated Irisdina too.
See? He's not all that bad.

>>143999052
Haha, epic post my friend!

>>143997477
I was hard as diamonds watching her helplessly fling about gasping cutely, then I was full of rage when Theo slammed his shield into her.

>>143998144
What death was better: Lise in the LN or Lise in the anime?

Lisehealing

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>>144000536
Soon.

Wew, and the Yanks still claim that European daytime is worse for Lise and Beatrix.

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>>144002189
don't worry we euros are waking up now.

Which SM girl other than Lise deserves headpats the most?

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>>144002512
Beatrix. Alternatively, Vivi.

>>144002289
And this qt3.14 will get showered in love and affection then?

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>>144002512
beato you silly.
>>144002581
in BiS VN so that's probably never regrettably

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>>144002581
I want to save her friendship with Iris. I don't know how, but I want to try. They're very cute together.

>>144002512
All of them

>>144002799
Even Katia?