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Holy shit there's still more to this? How controversial

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Holy shit there's still more to this? How controversial was this ending?

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-07-07/kumamiko-manga-creator-apologizes-for-anime-ending/.104063
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>>143847026
sudoku watch
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>The official Kumamiko anime website also made a post clarifying that the anime received approval from the original creator

lel and the author said he (she I think, actually) wasn't involved in it.
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>>143847026
How did it end?
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Kuma miko~

damage control~
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>>143847123
They are in full damage control mode.
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>>143847204
Badly.
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>>143847204
Perfectly.
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Does this mean there's less to blame on Sugiura now?
I'm tired of all the bullying he's getting.
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Episode 8 was the best
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Am I the only one who liked the bullying?
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>>143847026
I'm glad i dropped this shit around episode 4
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>director and head screenwriters were literally-whos who had only worked on one anime before this; Bottom Biting Bug

Nothing of value was lost. These jokers will be laughed out of the industry.
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anime original ending, not even once
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>>143847204
mind break.
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>>143847598
Please no, Sugiura is going to work on a big project next season and he was really excited about it.
Fucking Kuma Miko.
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>>143847663
I really really hope this encourages more studios to stop doing anime original ends
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>>143847735
>big project

He's doing the spinoff to Touken Ranbu, AKA Kancolle for girls.

Nothing of value.
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>>143847228
Bullshit. It is quite obvious the author knew about it, and the raging fans purposefully misinterpreted/outright lied about what she had said just to justify their hate-boner. This shit happened before during the whole Kokoro Connect incident involving Eri Kitamura. People outright lied then, so quite frankly, the fact that the only supposed 'proof' that people have now is a single tweet is outright laughable.
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>>143847820
Anime original endings wouldn't be so bad if yhe weren't just so thematically different and nonsensical 99% of the time
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>>143847204
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Should I watch it for the sake of cringe, /a/?
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>>143847944
Yes.
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>>143847839
It's still a big project. Lots of hype and money behind it.

Actually I hope it ends up being good so this incident gets forgotten.
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>>143847026
I can see the author getting pulled into the company office and gettting a typical speech

"Ah you said all stuff but yet the animation staff worked hard to create an anime based on your works. Isn't it unfair to place blame on people who were just adapting your story" etc
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Why are people upset about the ending?
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>>143847204
Natsu got the mindbreak bad end.
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>>143847204
Just another Yoshio mindbreak, went a bit too far
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>>143847204
The bear ruined everything
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>>143847919
Bullshit, the author did make a post on his blog saying that he received the script mfor the final ep but decided not to review it because he trusted the writers not to fuck up, but he deleted it immediately when shit started to hit the fan. Unfortunately for him it was archived, so now him suddenly going "oh yeah I was totally involved in the writing for the last episode, please buy the BDs" just reeks of gunpoint damage control.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-06-23/kumamiko-creator-remarks-on-cruel-comment-in-final-episode-script/.103547

http://web.archive.org/web/20160621153234/http://masmeyoshimoto.tumblr.com/
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>>143848142
It was shit and undermied the entire show
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>>143848362
How can an ending undermine a show that's 100% episodic in structure?
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>mfw I still didn't finish kuma miko because of Chyuu

RYUUK, HURRY YOUR SHIT UP
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>>143848142
Because it's almost as bad as actual bullying
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>>143848391
It fucks up the entire character arc that was presented through and goes against he message of the show.
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>>143848430
Literally worse than Hiryuu
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>>143848555
What exactly was the message of the show though?
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>>143848555
>character arc that was presented through
You mean all of the rest of the show where we see her fear of the city become increasingly more intense culminating in the last episode where she just flips out? Seems pretty consistent to me.

>goes against he message of the show
What message?
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>>143848596
Giving girls traumatic experiences is hilarious, according to the manga's author
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>>143848683
They're right, you know.
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>>143848683
I mean most young boys/girls have traumatic experiences, and a good amount of the time the situation could be funny to others watching.
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>>143848756
I don't know what's funny about a girl being afraid of being stoned and then refusing to go anywhere near the city because of it
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>>143848683
Bless him.
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So it went from "I had no say it the matter because they're professionals and I trusted their judgement" to "It's all my fault"? Seems like a bit of a strange turn..
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>>143848683
I want to bully Machi
I want to see her driven before me etc etc
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>>143847942
Should've crossed out the "for a while" because that implies there's still hope
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>>143848756
The problem is that they don't really frame it as funny, they just keep throwing Machi into increasingly traumatic experiences until she finally breaks and gives up her dream
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>>143848926
Just like real life young idols
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>>143848891
Hey, those BDs aren't gonna sell themselves
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>>143848891
They did write the manga, but I don't think the staff really liked it
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Strangely i don't enjoy NTR but I very much enjoy Kuma MIko mind broken girl ending very much
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>>143849005
Don't see what NTR has anything to do with the Kuma Miko ending
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>>143848926
That's why the show is great. If you don't enjoy Machi bullying you can't enjoy the show. If you do, you can't not enjoy it unless you get caught up in some silly shit like "the ending ruined the whole show because it didn't go like I thought it would".
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>>143848891
I really doubt an author would risk not checking the sole anime original episode of their show just because "they're pros I'm not".
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>>143848904
Please, if they ever felt like doing a second season they could easily have Machi waking up the next morning and going "You know what? I changed my mind, I still want to go to the city." and have another 12 episodes of Miko bullying.
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>>143849005
I don't think you know what NTR means anon.
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Stupid chink chongs don't deserve anime this good, they can't into dark humour
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>>143848971

Of course, but the damage is already done. Going into damage control weeks later when nobody cares anymore is not going to change the opinion of the average otaku, especially when the reception was so negative towards the end. The mangaka at least had the ace in the hole of "Hey, wasn't my fault w" but now they're basically pinning the blame on themselves now too, essentially shitting on themselves.
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>>143849101
>"the ending ruined the whole show because it didn't go like I thought it would".
More like "what did this girl do to deserve any of this"
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>>143849005
Dumb /a/ poster
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>>143849268
See, that would put you in the category of those who don't enjoy the Machi bullying so you wouldn't even qualify for the rest of the post.
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Losers would have liked it if it went full madoka and reversed its edginess at the end only to add it back in a movie
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what i don't understand is why didn't yoshio or natsu told her that no one was actually throwing anything at her and they just kept quiet about it
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>>143849101
I did like the bullying at the beginning when it was indeed framed as comedic, the problem is that it just kept escalating and becoming more and more mean-spirited, and no the ending didn't ruin the show for me because I stopped giving a fuck about it after the supermarket ep, when it was clear the writers stopped giving a fuck
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>>143848002
She aced the Shimamura one, at least.
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>>143849376
She's just a kid. Kids cry about a lot of shit all of the time. They don't have to entertain her every little whining.
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>>143849101
The bullying was funny when it was light teasing and more like poking fun at Machi's naivete but then you get things like Hibiki's introduction being pushing her face into a wall for no reason and then it just starts getting a little bit too crazy from there
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>>143849432
It was comedic till the end, you just lost sight of it. Your silly shit was expecting some plot or development.
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>>143849263
They are trying to get some goodwill back from the core audience by making it look like the mangaka gave them his seal of approval.
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>>143849268
Life isn't far anon, life doesn't care if your a little girl.
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>the author have to come out and apologize for the anime ending

Holy shit, didn't pick up this show, now im extremely interested.
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It's like people have never heard of the word schadenfreude.
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>>143849537
Is that some philosopher?
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>>143849475
>but then you get things like Hibiki's introduction being pushing her face into a wall for no reason and then it just starts getting a little bit too crazy from there
The whole point of the show is pushing the bullying further and further. Establishing some arbitrary limit to what is okay and what's too much is fagottry beyond all boundaries. The only limit should be "we legally can't show this on TV". Anything lower would be the writers pussyig out.
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>ITT
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>>143849522
Don't be. It's just people overblowing shit on the internet as usual.
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>>143847123
In the mangaka's blogpost she thanked the anime staff for their hard work but that she didn't like Yoshio's dialogue in the final episode and regreted not reading the episode script for it. Not that she hated the adaptation overall or wasn't involved at all. Just that she trusted the studio and approved it without reading it.
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Just look at that guilt on his face, he knows what he has done
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They should have just put a trigger warning at the beginning of every episode.
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Any numbers on the blue ray sales?
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>>143849537
/a/ is full of chink ESLs, so it's not surprising.
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>>143848683
It gives me a boner.
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>>143849490
How was any of pic related comedic?
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>>143848891
Not really.
>Also, regarding the final episode's script, I participated in the composition meeting, and when we asked what to do for the final episode, I proposed something like, "How about going to Sendai? Then Machi gets into an accident, Natsu hurries by car to save her, they get back together at the climax of the story, and it ends." If there are people who feel uncomfortable with corresponding sections, it's my responsibility. I am sorry.
Sure, it says "I was at the meetings, I'm sorry" but it doesn't contradict anything said previously.

There's no mention of the author approving of Yoshio's sacrifice speech or Machi's delusions and regression.
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>>143849867
>>143849537
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>Author makes a post about not liking certain aspects of the end and apologizes for not reading the script.
>Post quickly taken down. Most likely at the publisher's orders because you can't shit talk something your a part of like that in the business world.
>A couple weeks later a blog post goes up praising the series even over the manga and that she was totally involved.
>This goes up around the same time as the studio's statement.

Yes, this was totally sincere and not scripted at all.
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>>143849867
Haha it's funny because she's getting her head bashed against the fence
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>BDs come out, 1-9 are same as usual, 10-12 are brand new episodes as an apology. Script taken straight from the manga (or mangaka) with a happy ending for Machi.

Suddenly everyone would love the series again.
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>>143849699
>but that she didn't like Yoshio's dialogue in the final episode
So, basically, the author wasn't against the ending itself, but simply didn't like Yoshio's dialogue? Oh wow, so it's basically people over-reacting and deliberately misinterpreting other people's words for their hateboner?

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>>143849867
Because she makes cute noises when she gets hurt
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>>143849897
>>143849537
schadenfreude isn't >>143849867
It's more like laughing at tragic yet funny stuff, like a quadruple amputee with a 'get well soon' card on their desk.
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>>143849867
That scene was one of my favorites, you can suck my balls.
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>>143850040
>tragic yet funny stuff
So Kuma Miko.

>quadruple amputee with a 'get well soon' card
/a/ will cry about bullying all the same.
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There's literally nothing wrong with the ending and bullying the miko.
Also, best anime of the season.
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>>143849946
Machi didn't have a happy end in the manga. She has a nightmare about Sendai being terrible and temporarily gives up wanting to go and the series continues from there while exploring the village more before getting back to Machi's modern ignorance. She still gives up, but its just not do to believing her own hallucinations and didn't screw up the tone of the end scene by fucking up the end joke and making her seem retarded.
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>>143848142
Machi's happiness differs from viewers' idea of happiness
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>>143850048
Sorry had to go get my fedora so I could tip it to you
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>>143849792
○くまみこ 【BOX全2巻】
巻数 初動 発売日
01巻 1,809 16.06.24 ※くまぼっくす
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>>143849958
The usual ANN clickbait
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>>143850193
It's on 2K as of this week.
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>>143850157
Sorry if I'm not a faggot who gets offended by a drawing of a girl getting bullied.
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>>143850098
>So Kuma Miko.
assuming you enjoy japanese'''''humour'''''
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>>143850248
>offended
>>>/v/
>>>/pol/
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>>143847026
The author is a girl who's easily bullied into submission, there was a stream where her editor told her to shut the fuck up.
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>>143850240
Where's the data?
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My wife Machi is so cute.
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>>143847204
With a joke that probably sounded funnier in their heads than it actually ended up being
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>>143850434
So Kumamiko is an autobiography? So does that all but confirm Machi ends up being a citygirl in the end?
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These faggots. The ending was hilarious.
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>>143848142
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>>143847924
I don't understand why they just don't go with something from the manga just out of laziness in the first place
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>>143850513
It confirms that this will be the author's only work. The last chapter will be painted red to symbolize Machi's suicide, as the author kills herself.
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>>143850217
It wasn't even clickbait, people legitimately didn't like the ending and Yoshio's faux pas and the author just said how he agreed that Yoshio's comment was uncalled for.
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>>143847204
It was one of those comedy animes that suddenly becomes fucking dark for no reason.
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Soiya music when?

Natsu should have let be free.
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Kuma Miko fucked up in a couple places. Mostly in that the manga makes the bullying scenes very brief, with the humor focused more on Machi's ignorance than the actual bullying. The anime fucked this up by focusing on the bullying itself and dragging the scenes out.

They also swapped the order of Hibiki's appearance for some reason. Originally Machi has her mall freakout over her clothes first, which prompts Yoshio to ask Hibiki to take her shopping for new clothes. This showed that Yoshio actually does care about how Machi feels. The anime swapped these events, removing this characterization for Yoshio. I guess they wanted to shill the clothing brand earlier or something.
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>>143849475
>pushing her face into a wall for no reason
Given what happens later on with the delusions part of me is questioning whether or not this actually happened in the first place now
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>>143850438
>86 30 **,270 *,**2,079 **2 くまみこ 壱 -くまぼっくす-【Blu-ray】

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4656856971?pid=93395198239&see_lz=1#93395198239
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>>143850532
They were receiving funding from Sendai and had to shill it. So they wrote an original ending where they actually go to Sendai.
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>>143849170
>sole anime original
The hot spring episode was also original, eh?
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>>143850885
There were three anime original episodes overall.
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Anime ending was fine. A little too truthy for sensitive people perhaps
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Kuma miko vs Berserk (anime-2016)
Which one is better?
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>>143848142

we're not assholes
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>>143850123

I thought the manga was still ongoing?
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>>143849800
>ESLs not having a better grasp on burgerspeak
lmao
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>>143851052
It is.

>and the series continues from there while exploring the village more before getting back to Machi's modern ignorance.
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>>143851038
Kuma Miko has been all around funnier just for the damage control by the studio.
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>>143851086
hreo ;0 I rike sushi <3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HICffpLBpHM
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Even emergence didn't cause this much butthurt. Fuck off normies, end yourselves if your can't fap to a little girl getting abused.
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>>143847026
I honestly don't see what the big deal was. As someone who actually had agoraphobia, you don't just come out of it by being shoved onto a stage, that makes it worse.

It was surprisingly down to Earth, if anything.
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>>143851248
>normies
>>>/r9k/
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>People being this butthurt that other people thought the ending was bad.
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>>143851614
It was bland. But this whole being upset is just everyone being sjw suddenly, after the whole season was about the happy sexualization and bullying of Machi. Even that fucking line about the sacrifice was mentioned in the first episode.
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>sjw
>normie
>offended
I'm starting to notice a trend with people defending the anime ending
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>>143847026
Kek
This mayn't be this funny
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>>143851937
You're only just now noticing? It's been the same couple of people in almost every thread.
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Man, I feel bad for the MC's VA. This was her first important role, so I hope the negativity doesn't affect her in the long run
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>>143849505
>They are trying to get some goodwill back from the core audience by making it look like the mangaka gave them his seal of approval.
That doesn't work on the internet. Especially since the people they are trying to fool already read the deleted blog post. The only people who would be fooled by it are the normal people who have never watched the show and would never have bought the DVDs anyway.
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>>143852098
Why would it? None of it was her fault, shes just a VA. She was great throughout.
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>>143852220
>Why would it?
is this your first anime "controversy"
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>>143847026
Studio went anime original for the last couple episodes yet still chose to actually end with the manga chapter where Machi gives up on going to the city (For now). They also dragged out and amped up the bullying and Machi's anxiety which killed the humor and ruins the tone of the ending making it come across as a darker/more depressing scene than it was in the manga. Also, fuck them for fucking up the Amazon joke.

Honestly in my opinion the Director was the real problem but honestly this whole thing would have blown over and been forgotten quickly but the writer fucked up and started deleting his social media accounts and an IP address that just so coincidentally happened to be from the writers area just happened to try to delete the series from his wiki page coincidentally at the same time as he was deleting social media accounts. This drew all the attention to him and escalated everything.
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It was obviously terrible but it's not like the anime suddenly dropped in the last episode, the entire Idol thing was drawn out and awful.
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>>143852238
She hasn't really been brought up much at all in this. She's probably safe. It's the writer and studio in general who may have trouble in the future as most of the attention is centered around them.
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>>143847204
Unfortunate commentary about how a good amount of Japan still doesn't give a fuck about mental disorders.
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B-But the ending was pretty decent
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>>143852272
>an IP address that just so coincidentally happened to be from the writers area just happened to try to delete the series from his wiki page coincidentally at the same time as he was deleting social media accounts
(((Pure coincidence)))
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>>143851248
>Even emergence didn't cause this much butthurt.
Because its ending didn't come out of left field.
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>this much controversy and butthurt and career ruining because manchildren were offended by the ending of their cartoon
nips are so fucking weird sometimes
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Machi doing Kyary Pamyu Pamyu routines when?
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>>143852724
The entire butthurt over the same thing that was in the show for the whole time is more of a surprise. The retards just change their minds after the last episode. Only the retarded fanbase is at fault here.
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>>143852909
>The retards
Who?
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>>143852909
>Only the retarded fanbase is at fault here.
The same fanbase who was the main source of this show's income? The same fanbase who they are dependent on for success?
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What were the Nico ratings for the last episode?
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>>143853015
The same fanbase that celebrated the bullying and sexualization of Machi for three months, doing naked edits of screenshots, then suddenly going assblasted mode when the last episode aired. Hypocrisy.
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>>143852732
>nips
nips weren't the ones that had sent pictures of their penises to a VA. nips are nowhere near as butthurt as 4chan gets when it comes to their anime
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>>143853148
>The same fanbase that celebrated the bullying and sexualization of Machi for three months, doing naked edits of screenshots, then suddenly going assblasted mode when the last episode aired. Hypocrisy.
You can insult them all you want, that still wouldn't convince them to pay the studio money.

You remind me of Miyamoto complaining that Japanese audiences are not entertained by his games lately. That he blames the gamers for not buying his game titles.
That shit doesn't work, you are suppose to appeal to your customers, if the customers are not interested, it is not the customer's fault.
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>>143853153
>nips weren't the ones that had sent pictures of their penises to a VA. nips are nowhere near as butthurt as 4chan gets when it comes to their anime
The Nico ratings showed that there was plenty of anger in Japan.
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>>143847026
Welp, guess I'll watch this.
This season's shit anyway.
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>>143853217
The problem is that they liked it at first, then changed their minds for a reason that they liked the show for earlier. Makes no fucking sense. It's like gundamfags wouldn't buy the latest show because robots fight in it.
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>>143853395
It's almost as if the mood of the show changed through its run and people didn't like the direction it was taking
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>>143853217
This is what we're dealing with, gentlemen. Assblasted otakus that not only want the industry to appeal more and more to them but legitimately justifies online rioting over some 30 minutes of their time and threats to the careers of people they refuse to give money to.
Anime is no longer a place for even the slightest of form of free creative expression. Everything must pander to the customer alone.

I don't give a shit if they're Japanese or not but this shit will ruin any artform anywhere. If that's what the "majority" of /a/ wants, then /a/ is more than brain-dead.
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>>143853395
Nip interest in the series actually began to drop off around the department store shilling episode and then started plummeting with the commercial episode. The last episode was really just the last straw.
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>>143853314
That's really bad. Did that beat out Valverave's final episode?
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>>143853467
>You need support things you thought were awful in order to preserve creative freedom.

With the way the industry works that would just tell them to make more of what you didn't like. They already work to cater to their audiences tastes. They're a business interested in making money.
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>>143853467
The anime industry is nothing but pandering.
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>>143853395
Thing is, showing her encountering adversity and coming back is good.
Showing her being attacked over and over and whimpering back, not so good.
Showing her going to the city and losing, never to return... you may as well have hit her with a truck.
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>>143853531
>That's really bad. Did that beat out Valverave's final episode?
61.% for Valverave ending, so VVV wins for being worse.
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>>143853681
She actually won, but her autism caused her to freak out. Machi is to blame, everyone else didn't do anything wrong.
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>>143850596
>>143852441
that's pretty great, what's so bad about that.
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>>143853467
>Anime is no longer a place for even the slightest of form of free creative expression. Everything must pander to the customer alone.
Since when was it EVER about creative expression? You are talking out of your ass. Underground artists don't get to have 2.5million USD to make a 1 cour anime.
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Was it really that bad?
How dark is it?

From what I gather I feel like she just decides to not go in to the city because shes autismo, but that seems like it could be played off fine.
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>>143853774
She didn't win. She won a special award for her performance.
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>>143848683
I thought that was the anime staff's fault.
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>>143853806
>From what I gather I feel like she just decides to not go in to the city because shes autismo, but that seems like it could be played off fine.
She had actual hallucinations. She was suffering from medically defined delirium.
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I really enjoyed this show up until the last episode. I didn't find the ending as offensive as others but I did feel like it took it too far. If there had been an OVA or a final episode where she decided not to give up on going to the city then I really don't think I would have had an issue with it, in fact I was waiting until the very last second for a scene of her changing her mind again. It almost felt like the show was missing an episode once I finished it. Still if you disregard the final episode and look at the show all together it was still a 7/10, very cute and funny.
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>>143853806
It wasn't MEANT to be dark, but they really dropped the ball and fucked up the tone by extending the bullying scenes, Yoshio's comments, and other small alterations. They were trying to make it another gag but it really doesn't come across that way.
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>>143853875
The bullying was fun.
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>>143853827
I mean she didn't lose, people liked her.
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>>143853806
>Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of her nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. She had won the victory over herself. She loved Kumade village.
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>>143853610
>You need to threaten people's careers when things deviate slightly from how it works
From the way the fans are reacting, that's the message the studio will get, I'll place money on it. Even if you didn't like it, it still is not justification for online riots, is it?

>>143853805
All art forms, no matter how money-grubbing, have a degree of creative freedom. Even bloody Hollywood has it. Look at your own ass before you shit on others.

>>143853664
And you want more of the brain-dead adaptations it's been churning out? Something a little different shouldn't be too much, should it?
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>>143853790
Did you miss Natsu's moral dilemma and how he chooses the selfish option and then just acts like everything's peachy for the rest of that epilogue?
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>>143853939
>And you want more of the brain-dead adaptations it's been churning out?
I didn't say that. You're jumpier than the otaku you're criticizing.
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>>143853972
Yeah, I probably am. What did you say then? Any points I should take?
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>>143853806
>that seems like it could be played off fine.
Could, but didn't. Not due to oversight or anything, it seems like it was deliberately ended in a way which made it seem a terminal end.

Machi went to the city for a idol contest which she was already nervous about. Fear and panic and delirium set in and eventually, even though she managed to perform successfully, she thought people were literally throwing rocks at her.
She runs home and cries to the bear, vowing to never ever think about going outside the village ever again. She's later seen giddily happy about not having to know anything about anything, let alone Intaneto Saito who delivers packages.

Then there was that completely fucked up bit where Yoshio talks about how Machi is a sacrifice for the town, and later mentioning that he actually has had rocks thrown at him before.

The rest of the show went from "lol bullying" to "hey now", but the last ep was plain what the fuck.
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>>143854098
Picked up. Sounds good to me.
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>>143849522
I feel the same, because no matter were I look nobody actually says what was so bad about it. Other than 'minbreak hehe'.
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The ending was a deliberate fuck you to the author from the anime staff for bullying Machi in the manga. The manga makes fun of hicks and Tohoku bumpkins in the same way Hard Gay made fun of faggots.

The anime ending is delicious if you love suffering, but it was also hard love for Machi to tell the manga author to fuck off.
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>>143853939
>All art forms, no matter how money-grubbing, have a degree of creative freedom. Even bloody Hollywood has it. Look at your own ass before you shit on others.
If you want creative freedom you should look for it in an Original anime. That is not what Adaptations are for. Adaptations are the antithesis of creative freedom.
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>>143853872
No one was offended by it, if you read the thread you can see that pretty much agrees it was just a cause of over-the-line, the whole "lol offended" is just a narrative that contrarians and /v/-tier fedoras are trying to set up to deflect criticism of the show
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>>143853872
>If there had been an OVA or a final episode where she decided not to give up on going to the city then I really don't think I would have had an issue with it, in fact I was waiting until the very last second for a scene of her changing her mind again.

Yep.
I half was expecting a surprise OVA announcement or something to go "Hey she's gonna try again!". Bully her all you want, but don't end her dream.
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>>143848142
Normalfags wanted her to become a city slut.
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>>143854216
Adapting something to a completely different medium often calls for creative liberties. You can't simply do a 1-to-1 adaptation.
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>>143854411
There is taking creative liberties and then there completely changing the tone during the adaptation
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>>143850365
Kuma Miko 2: Muslim Boogaloo
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>>143848142
Western pampered kids couldn't handle some light bullying when you are supposed to laugh at her suffering.
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>>143854551
>Western pampered kids
but it's otaku in nippon
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>>143854283
Lots of people were offended by the ending, that is why it has had such a massive backlash. I'm not trying to say that that makes the ending okay just that I was not as upset about it as others. People felt offended by the behavior of characters and how they treated Miko. If people were not offended by the ending then the backlash would not have been as bad, however the ending would have seemed shitty.
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>>143854608
Or maybe, just maybe people legitimately didn't like the ending because it was shit, and stared bitching about how it was shit and the studio went overzealous witht the damage control.

Stop this "lol the only people who didn't like then ending were easily offended tumblrnormiesjwcucks" nonsense already
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Just finished it, I stopped at like episode 9 but decided to finally get around to finishing it because of the controversy (and because I don't like actually dropping anything that isn't harmeshit)
>Machi gets mindbroken by City Life and spends the rest of her life with Natsu
>Natsu continues to enable a mindbroken 14 y/o for his selfish gain
Yeah I can see why people aren't happy about it.
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>>143848472
>nobody actually bullied her for the whole episode and all the bad shit was in her head
Yeah, terrible.
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>>143853916
Pretty much this
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>>143855077
The whole town really. Not just the bear.

Kumade is fucked up
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>>143853314
>声優に罪はない
See? These guys get it.
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>Emergence will never be canonically the sequel of Kumamiko where Machi goes to the city school and gets exploited and turned into a junkie slut
Actually I'm fucking butthurt over the ending that prevented this.
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>>143853916
Is that a 1984 reference?

Nice.
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>>143850596
Reminds me of Kotoura-san, only backwards.
First episode started out ultra grimderp, then the rest of it was fun SoL shenanigans with occasional dips into darkness.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1qeD91m1Oo

Shitty ending aside, the bullying was one of the hallmarks of the show.
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Is there a darker anime than Kumamiko?
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>>143855449
I forgot how funny this was.
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>>143855412
Kumamiko doesn't even go full grimdark, the humor just starts to rely more and more in the Machi suffering until it ultimately falls flat on its face at the ending
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>>143855472
Texhnolyze
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>>143851937
There has been exactly one reference to "normies", "sjw" and "offended" in this entire fucking thread prior to you bringing it up so I have no idea what the fuck your talking about.
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>>143855492
Too bad the rest of the segment was just Machi being shit on for 10 minutes.
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Natsu was not funny at all.
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>>143855472
Tons. But there is just something really special about taking a cute little kitty cat and throwing it off a cliff into a lake watching it screach and squirm in agony. Then once it miraculously swims its way to shore, as it catches it's breathe you pet it gently and lovingly just throw it back in again, causing the cat to give up and just drown.

10/10
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>>143854474
This is why girls belong in purdah.
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>>143851937

It is, there's always that same guy mentioning the same shit every thread.

and while the bullying was pretty much the main focus I think we can safely agree it went over the line in that last episode.
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>>143855800
What line? The one that we're all supposed to share because of our common upbringing? Grow up and accept that it's not offensive to some and that those who did find it offensive are being too overreactive over it. You fags brought it upon yourselves crying the exact same thing in over 30 threads now. It's hilarious that you cry foul when we've heard the same wailing over and over again.
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>>143855021
Fuck did you even read my post? The ending was shit, of course that is true however a large portion of the negative backlash was a result of people taking offense from the final episode. The way that Miko was treated upset and OFFENDED lots of people, this can be seen in online reviews and complaints about the ending. This does not mean and in no fucking way did I even imply it meant that the ending was not shit or that the only issue was people being oversensitive. You seem like a stupid faggot who is trying to prove a point to someone when they are not even arguing against you, please improve your reading comprehension you stupid fuck.
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>>143855623
I like this scenario.
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>>143853153
Wait, what?
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>>143856519
Your new is show, tripfag
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>>143856644
Was that about the KyoAni VA who had sex with an entire band?
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>>143856684
Nope, stop being such a fucking newfag and lurk more
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>>143856684
>entire band
You tried.
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>>143847026
She ended up retarded and fucked by a bear.
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>>143856710
OH RIIIIGHT, the Kokoro Connect thingy. I almost forgot about that. Damn, how many years has it been.
>>143856728
I know, I know, except the bassist. You got the gist though.
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>>143856728
>>143856796
based bassist did nothing wrong
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>>143848683
>Giving girls traumatic experiences is hilarious
Isn't this part of Japanese culture? Like physically hurting someone is funny, yelling and hitting someone is funny and so on.
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>>143856796
>OH RIIIIGHT
>thingy
Drop dead tripfag.
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>>143856796
>>143856728

>bass always getting neglected

Fuck those plebs.
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>Controversial

In a medium where everything is so safe and sterile, I appreciate a little of risk.
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>>143857011
They're big fans of slapstick humor but they're not outright cruel. Even if the appeal was seeing Machi bullied, this was pretty damn cruel.
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>>143857057
I want to fuck a bassist.
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>>143847026
It's sad they're getting so much backlash for fucking up so bad at the very last minute.
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>>143847026
Whats the problem? It was perfect ending : "you`ll stay with us forever!"

Just like 4chan
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>>143848891
welcome to japanese entertainment industry

even if you fuck up if someone calls you out on it or vaguely complains he is the one that has sinned and has to go full seppuku

i can understand why they don't want to open markets and compete with the west too, they would get slaughtered and our media is ruthless towards sore losers like these
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>>143857102
I don't know what those Japanese expected from a weird seinen adaptation that aired at an 11pm slot. It's not the studio's fault that they mistook the actual appeal of this series for something else nor is it reasonable for them to smear shit over it for weeks on end if they hated it.

>>143857090
This guy has the right idea. Nothing wrong with a little spice once in a while.

>b-but they went too far.
Suck it up and just don't bother with it like a civilised adult. You don't own the series so don't get your balls twisted over it for goodness' sake.
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>>143857480
You gotta remember that besides the people in this thread acknowledging the reason for the outrage, none of us are actually getting our butts blown off. Its the nip otaku making this out to be some sort of controversy.
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>>143849867
Well, there is an entire section of hentai that focuses on female characters getting beaten up brutally. No doubt there are some sociopaths out there finds this type of shit to be funny too.
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>>143847204
Many people got triggered because Machi had a panic attack while reharsing for the idol contest and getting lost in Sendai. In the end she had a good perfomance.Being a person with a severe inferiority complex just saw the negative things in her adventure later looking comfort with the bear which has some issues with letting her go.
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>>143857553
I'm not accusing you if you're not getting your glutes exploded. If you can be calm about it, I'm happy for you. The message is addressed to the other retards and I can assure you that they exist.
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>>143848683
And he's right.
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>>143847839
>Touken Ranbu, AKA Kancolle for girls.
Is there a self insert? this is important.
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>>143854168
Basically
>entire series revolves around machi's desire to stop being a hick and go to high school in the city
>she knows comically little about the modern world
>also extremely socially anxious and has an intense bumpkin complex
>she gets traumatized repeatedly after attempts to do simple things like use a modern rice cooker or go shopping in a mall
>that's okay though because she's learning and not giving up
>all of a sudden she has to enter an idol contest in the city
>this means having to do kagura in front of a couple of hundred people she's never met before
>starts having vivid hallucinations about city people throwing rocks at her
>bails but comes back after a change in heart
>terrified, but manages to shut out the bad thoughts and get through her performance
>the second she's done the hallucinations of stoning come back in full force even though the crowd is cheering for her
>she's absolute wreck when she gets home, moreso than any other point in the show and outright gives up on her dream
>bear is like "thats okay you dont have to think about anything anymore"
>credits start playing and she's mentally regressed to the level of a 5-year-old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDQoHhSzbt0
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>>143857673
>Many people got triggered because Machi had a panic attack while reharsing for the idol contest and getting lost in Sendai
That part shouldn't be a big deal. Especially with all the stuff that happened before.
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>>143849537
I've know of it, but I usually don't find anything enjoyable about an innocent little girl getting bullied.
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>>143855623
Don't you compare cats to human women. Cats are nice and innocent and shouldn't be hurt.
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this isn't big enough yet, something else must happen
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>b-but the author said it was OK
>so the diarrhea covered shit we made is comestible
Holy shit.
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>>143850668
So she just has social anxiety and imagines everyone bullying her when they really aren't? That is just sad, not funny at all.

If they played their cards right this could have been a decent black comedy, but it's portrayed too SoL and lighthearted that it's just jarring.
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>waaaahhh stop being so mean to this completely imaginary cartoon character
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>>143851301
People were more bothered by the enabling of her phobia by saying it's okay to stay home instead of saying that everyone there was cheering for her and that how she perceived it is not what actually happened.
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>>143848566
>>143848430
Ryuk just put 05 online. If I keep pestering him hard enough, he might finish by the time Love Lab 2 comes out.
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>>143858050
I am more bothered by how she doesn't know what Internet is anymore.
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>>143857978
>Holy shit.
It's identical to what happens with Dragonball Evolution; Toriyama gave them permission to do whatever because he didn't care anymore. But then the final result was so enraging that he ended up writing Super just to get over it. The official statement is legaly true; the author gave his approval for the final product. It's just that they didn't mention that the author didn't even look at the script at all. The author did admit he is partly to blame for not having stopped it. But in the end the official statement is a meaningless paragraph that is only true in a legal sense and not true in actuality.
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This was my favorite show at the beginning of the season.
All the Machi abuse (even in the middle) left me with really bad feelings each episode, but I kept watching because of how much I liked her character initially, I just wanted it to go back to light hearted SoL with her.
But the ending made me genuinely disgusted. It didn't just ruin the show, it ruined how I felt for Machi.
I already deleted all the reaction images of her I had.
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>>143858217
I'll save more images of Machis suffering than ever to make up for you then.
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Maybe she got better, who knows. Because people rightfully thinks she is mind broken, but i'm waiting to see what route the manga takes.

Most people get over those kind of things, others need a bit of help, but the way in which Natsu was portrayed in earlier episodes seems like he will do the sane thing and enable her to go out and see the world and become an anxious city girl.
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How did the manga proceed from where the anime diverged?
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>>143858261
I don't even care anymore.
I used to be one of the few anons constantly defending her in every thread and trying to stop /a/ from sexualizing her.
But it's mo owari da, I don't care what you do with her now.
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>>143858301
Machi eventually commits suicide
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>>143858300
The ending was anime-original
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>took all CGDCfags before Anne happy aired
>shit itself magnificently, even worse than C3bu
>still sells better than Anne happy which had one of the most satisfying endings in the least few years.
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>>143858345
I miss the early episodes so much
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>>143858379
>still sells better than Anne happy which had one of the most satisfying endings in the least few years
That's because Anne Happy was too forced with its moe shit and had no sense of consistency with its physics.
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>>143857824
Wow, that's pretty fucking heavy.

What a horrible ending for such a cute girl.
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>>143858354
I'd really like to see the reactions if anything like that ever happened.
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>>143858300
>Maybe she got better, who knows. Because people rightfully thinks she is mind broken, but i'm waiting to see what route the manga takes.
In the manga she didn't go to Sendai, she only had a nightmare of having stones thrown at her. This is entirely acceptable because nightmares suck but we all have them. Changing the plot so she hallucinates being stoned while physically in Sendai, is just too much of a mental illness.
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Where did all these pussy moralfags come from?
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Did everything go over my head?
I thought all the anxiety drama was from the previous episode. It ends with Natsu coming to cheer her on and give her confidence after she already mustered the courage to actually perform in the first place.

And they win an award.

I thought all the bullying was in her head at the end, no? She just decided that she was happier in the country-side, even if it was out of delirium. Or is that the part that is getting the negative feedback?
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>>143858217
Genuinely asking. Do you agree with the people getting angry over the same thing you experienced? Do you think it's the studio's fault that you were duped that way or are you the only one to blame to have those expectations?
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The bullying was the best part of Kumamiko. This is a FACT.
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>>143858481
I only care when cute 2d girls are involved.
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>>143858481
>moralfags
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>>143858516
It was when it was done for comedic purposes, shit like the supermarket ep and the ending were just bullying for the sake off bullying
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>>143858448

Well then she will fit in the group of people who needs a bit of help, only in the anime of course.

>>143858499
The problem is the perception she has of the events, she is in comple denial. And the way she behaves towards Natsu in the final scenes of the episode upset some people.
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>>143858499
You got an equally valid interpretation of the events a.k.a. not valid at all because nothing really is confirmed. It's a huge irony that an apparent majority views your opinion as completely bogus while not realising that theirs is just as made up.
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>>143858504
I understand why people are angry and I think it's the studios fault for making a shitty anime that gave me bad feelings by watching it. But it's not like they betrayed or duped me, they just made a really shitty ending.
I know not everyone gets this hurt over broken attachments to 2d girls.
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>>143858301
Some stupid story about cops investigating in the sticks. Lamest part of the whole manga.
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>>143858499
It went a bit too far when Machi interpreted people being nice to her as them being fucking cunts.
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>>143858572
Every bit of bullying was the best. I sincerely couldn't believe the second-hand PTSD anons got after watching those heavy episodes, like the mall or supermaket, where Machi freaks out.
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>>143858582
>>143858591
I still don't understand quite what people are upset about. Did they want an ending where Machi actually gets a successful urban idol gig and goes to school in the city? I didn't think you would actually expect or desire that kind of conclusion after the whole series was kinda about how she gets along better and healthier with her country family. And she actually has chemistry with the delinquent neesan and the older brother figure.

She might be ignorantly and wrongfully assuming she was shunned, but it's not like Natsu or the village isn't going to bring up the trophy with her eventually, She'll find out that she actually had a successful Sendai debut and probably go through another cycle like the show in her local high school.
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>>143858639
Do you think it's right to boycott the studio's works and almost ruin the writer's career over it then?
I know not everyone gets this hurt but from the reactions on most places including /a/, it seems like most do get hurt to the point of harming others' livelihood.
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>>143858862
Also Machi's "internet saito" and ticklefight with Natsu at the end was sickeningly cute, in a good way. It's like when she's experienced other traumas before, she regresses for a while and then gets all of her mojo back.
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>>143857824
So what was the intended tone of the ending? Was it supposed to be a genuine happy ending? Or maybe comedic?
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>>143858862
Some people interpreted the scene as Machi having a total breakdown and regresing mentally a la pepe. But i'm pretty sure she was only being cute with Natsu and i as you do think she eventually get over it.
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>>143858899
>Do you think it's right to boycott the studio's works and almost ruin the writer's career over it then?
The director and writer both are inexperienced. When such people make a bomb, they get defined by them. That' just what happens with screwing up.

It is never permanent, they just had to make one good show to make up for it. But that still doesn't change the fact that they are only as good as the last show they made.
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>>143858925
Pretty much this >>143858950, although it wasn't intentional, you could easily read the ending as Machi been completely devastated by the experience and effectively the sfw equivalent of being mindbroken. The fact that Natsu previously wished to the Mountain Gods for everything to go up in flames just so he could selfishly keep Machi with him adds to the fact. All in all I think the real fault is execution, not content.
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>>143858899
>Do you think it's right to boycott the studio's works
No one ever suggested boycotting the studio. However, it is 100% legitimate to not buy DVDs of a show you don't like. Why would you pay money if you are not going to enjoy it?
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>>143851046
>we
>sjw
>no capitalization
>no punctuation

Fuck off newfag.
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>>143857824
>credits start playing and she's mentally regressed to the level of a 5-year-old
your being overdramatic, she literally reversed to the initially perceived image the audience had of her from episode one before the bullying kicked in, albeit a lot more cutesy and playful

how that is "literally 5 year old"? have you in your life seen a 5 year old? not to mention that machi isn't exactly too old herself
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>>143859004
I don't know about that. Making a bomb makes a show flop not cause riots. Of course, it's not permanent but it still shows how hypersensitive fans can be and the studio will definitely take less risks in the future, for better or worse.

>>143859031
It's fine if you aren't going to buy it, say you don't like it and go on your merry way. But the reactions I've seen have been much more blown up than that and I wouldn't be surprised if they got far more vile threats in private.
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I just hope this doesn't mean and end of Kuma Miko adaptations, or fault in the manga just because of a poorly perceived ending that isn't even bad enough to deserve such a response. I really liked the series, and really really adored Machi, and her VA.
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>>143859181
>I don't know about that. Making a bomb makes a show flop not cause riots. Of course, it's not permanent but it still shows how hypersensitive fans can be and the studio will definitely take less risks in the future, for better or worse.
Well, what kind of risk did you think they were taking with KumaMiko? Because they CERTAINLY didn't intend to make fun of a little girl's mental illness. The fact that they did do that is definitely something worth punishing for. What kind of reward are you suggesting they should earn for being edgy and psychotic due to incompetence?
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>>143859299
I don't know, if the Japanese are as sensitive as some people around here, that might be the case.
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>>143855800
>there's always that same guy
>all me

Fuck off faggot, also what is false flagging?
More that one moralfag retard spamming the word "normie" or "SJW" just to make others think the ones that liked the ending are crossboarders so fuck off.
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>>143859312
The risk was to do the whole show to begin with in an age of inoffensive fuzzy cute girls doing cute things shows dominating the market by adding a show where bullying is the focus.

How do you know it was incompetence? Their statement indicated that they knew what they were doing and their work should be taken as adhering to their intentions. Do you have anything to back your claim?
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Because i'm not sure of the definiton of bullying. I had sufferd from varying degrees of axiety and go out and talk to people might seem like torture in the end it's the only way to improve one condition. Besides no one actually mistreated Machi, everything was in her head
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oversensitive faggots ruining everything
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Bullying is wrong.
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>https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2016-06-23/kumamiko-creator-remarks-on-cruel-comment-in-final-episode-script/.103547
>In a possibly related development, Pierre Sugiura, one of the anime's writers, deleted his Twitter account and removed Kumamiko from his Facebook resume. It was also deleted from his filmography on Wikipedia by an IP address from Aichi Prefecture — where Sugiura is from.

At least they realize they messed up
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>>143859867
>the writers bully machi into submission
>the audience bullies the writers into submission
I want all this suffering to end.
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>>143858950
>Some people interpreted the scene as Machi having a total breakdown and regresing
This is my main problem with this Kumamiko outrage. Machi's "final" decision isn't set in stone because the idol arc ending was handled terrible.
When Machi mentioned that she was giving up on her city dwelling dream, I wasn't completely sure if she was joking as usual or if she was truly defeated by her inferiority complex. She has gone though this scarring shit before, sometimes teasing us about giving up, but she eventually recovers from it. And when Natsu encouraged her to stay in the village I simply thought he was being overly protective of her after this entire "Machi ran away and we can't find her" fiasco in the city.
The ending isn't satisfying at all but I really doubt the staff actually tried to make Machi a dependent potato.
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>>143849268
Sounds true to life
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>>143849268
She was criminally bulliable.
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>>143859860
And bad. There should be a new, stronger word for bullying. Like, badwrong. Or, badong.
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>>143861653
bearong
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Kuma Miko was one of the biggest disappointments of recent years.

At first, it was one of my favorites of the last season and it was quite popular on /a/. Dogakobo's third episode was just absolutely stellar. But then that delinquent blond bitch got introduced and it was all downhill from there.

Stupid "bullying" scenes that are neither cute nor funny despite what contrarian edgelords on /a/ might insist. There are cases where playful bullying is done in taste, this isn't one of them. The problem is not even the ending, that was just icing on the cake.

After the beginning episodes, it was just extremely repetitive (seriously, did they really need a "I want to go to the city" episode every fucking time, it's not chance that the third episode was easily the best) and a chore to watch. It could have been fun and heartwarming adventures of an insecure miko with her talking bear. If it was like that, like the Dogakobo's third episode especially, Kuma Miko would easily be 7-8/10. Now it's just barely a 3 and that's a shame.
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>moralfags
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>>143862173
machi version when
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>>143857824
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDQoHhSzbt0 [Embed]
>when you trigger the bad end
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>>143862126
>Dogakobo dick sucking
>cannot deal with people's different tastes on an anonymous board
Thank you for your valuable opinion. Here, have a high five. I'll give you a gold star later.
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>>143862318
>not dick sucking Dogakobo
Their episode had the best animation in the series, a great sense of energy and actually good comedic timing. That's how you make a show fun to watch. Their new show this season also seems much better than the pile of shit that was Kuma Miko.

It's not like I can't deal with people's different tastes. I just can't take them seriously when it's literally just
>lol she pulled her hair and rammed her face against a fence that's so funny fucking normie sjws not liking it schadenfreude ftw xDD

Everyone agrees Kuma Miko anime is utter garbage. Japan agrees. /a/ agrees. Even manga author agrees. Your opinion is just bottom of the barrel subhuman tier bullshit.
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The crazy thing is that if you were a kid or younger in general, and just like many different series, the ending wouldn't even register as a problem. But when you would watch it when your older you can easily see how depressing the ending really is. It's a shame that alot of people don't understand it.
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I think the buildup for Kumamiko bombing was actually built up because in the first episodes, it was charting pretty high for an SoL adaptation on Stalker. But over time it felt from being in the high 100s to like the bombing pits of the 300s and lower.

Also, why is okay for Kabaneri to underperform because elevens thought it went to shit, but when the same happens with Kumamiko, it's just Japan being "oversensitive"
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>>143862173
why does this give me a boner?

when did I become such a cruel man?
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>>143847204
She decides she wants to stay in the village after all.
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>>143862480
Schadenfreude is a legitimate form of entertainment. You seem to only notice the shitposters because you are unreasonably caught up in the rage.

I don't give a shit if ragefaggots are SJWs or Redditors or not. There's always going to be people who do not see the same way, even in Japan.
Of course, when shit goes down like this, their voice will get drowned in it or they won't bother to depict their disinterest even. I highly doubt that "everyone" agrees because those are the only people you see that have a worthy opinion as you pleasantly described mine as subhuman.
Tell me how your opinion is somehow worthy of being deemed "human" then? What makes you holier than me?

>>143862591
Because the root cause of Kabaneri "going to shit" is on perhaps a technical and mostly amoral level. Kuma Miko has technical flaws, sure, but the outrage seem to stem from the morally charged ideas of many fans to the neutral bystander. If the fans cooled down just one or two degrees, it wouldn't be branded as such.
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Kuma Miko's anime adaptation transcends the mundane original manga which contains trite humor of a hick interacting with the modern world alongside stereotypical side characters, and creates a deep look in the mirror at how putting an innocent and anxious soul into modern society shocks and hurts them.

Truly a deconstruction of our time.
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>>143862706
>deconstruction
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>>143855412
Except the first few episodes were the only good things about Kotoura-san and the rest of the show was complete ass and seemed to lose everything good the show had going for it.
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>>143847026
I still don't get the bug deal. I felt that the bullying got too intense and too sexual by episode 2. The final episode was nothing.
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>>143862173
I don't understand this implying.

I don't care about the controversy, ans couldn't care less about the bullying, bit I can't understand why there are people defending the ending.

It was legitimally bad.

The controversy, people getting pissed off from the bullying from other episodes and the author saying
>what Yoshio said was really cruel

is what caused a shit storm. But it doesn't change the fact that the ending was still bad.
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>>143862846
They are defending it because this is a public forum with people of differing opinions. As the saying goes, your taste is shit and there's nothing you can do about it.
They can defend it if they want to. /a/ is not a hivemind.
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>>143847026
Today's society are a bunch of crybabies who will bawl and bitch about anything that defies their standard of perfect ideals and "muh spirit of superation and individual fridumz!" That's it.
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>not realizing the bear is actually a demon with an intricate plan to keep her permanently isolated from the world, so she would entirely have to rely on the demon

Not sure if the plan involves breeding though.
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>>143862818
It's the same, people give the first episode too much credit. There was still some drama to be found and the scenes with the mom were well done. The only bad part was the supposed mystery at the end that lasted so long and was really obvious.
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>>143847375
>Yoshimoto Masume
>he/his
Isn't Yoshimoto a woman?
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>>143857867
You mean 3DPD
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>>143858504
>are you the only one to blame to have those expectations?
You reek of tumblr
Pleaso go
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>>143862895
Exactly, that's why I quoted that specific post.

Still, defending a shit ending just proves the shit taste anyway.
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>>143859181
>riots
What riots? Not buying shit is called being smart with your money, how is that a riot?
>>143859441
>How do you know it was incompetence? Their statement indicated that they knew what they were doing and their work should be taken as adhering to their intentions. Do you have anything to back your claim?
You really are from tumblr aren't you? Evidence is for facts not opinions, do I need evidence to dislike something?
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>>143862935
I think this whole affair is completely overblown mostly because people have too much free time to waste. Sure Machi's ending was unneeded and cruel but they didn't try to paint it as a bad thing. It's just sad that they fucked up a rather competent original climax because they didn't realize they didn't have to break Machi to keep her in the village.

The author did the right thing by apologizing, the dumb conclusion was built upon the crazy insecurities he dumped on her in the first place.
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>>143863203
>>143863298
>can't counter valid points
>calls out tumblr
What happened to this board, holy shit.

You need evidence for these claims:
>Because they CERTAINLY didn't intend to make fun of a little girl's mental illness
> What kind of reward are you suggesting they should earn for being edgy and psychotic due to incompetence

My counterargument to this was:
>Their statement indicated that they knew what they were doing and their work should be taken as adhering to their intentions
And thus I asked for evidence to back your claim.

I can respect that you dislike it and ultimately, I don't give a shit whether you did or not. Just stop being a flaming faggot.
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>>143848683
ONE OF US
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>>143863085
that wasn't supposed to be a quote, whoops
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>>143850217
ANN actually doesn't do MUCH of any clickbait. All they did was report, which is usual.
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>Season 2 is announced
>Ends with miko quitting life
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>>143850628
Underrated post.

Pretty much how I felt about the anime for a while, which is kind of why I ended up putting it down.

The manga and the anime honestly feel different.
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>>143849268
>More like "what did this girl do to deserve any of this"

What does anyone do to deserve anything?

You think bad things happen only to bad people?
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There is literally nothing wrong with the ending.

Fuck the faggots for making it a meme.
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>>143863663
But by becoming a meme, people will now remember the show for a few more months.

So perhaps it's still a positive thing, all in all.
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>The show is about bullying

>Final episode plays out with a little bit more bullying, because that's what the show is about

>"Waaah i don't want this horrible bullying!"
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>>143847026
that´s it, I´m picking this up. I don´t know what the fuck happened but I hope its worth the fuss
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Article doesn't mention that one director who removed Kumamiko from his own wiki page. Did that ever change?
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>>143864209
You don't get it. There is nothing wrong with the bullying.

What is wrong is the main character giving up on her hopes and dreams and living in a delusion that everything is fine, while her best friends encourage her on that. All the while pretending it's a happy ending somehow.
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>>143864209
In the final episode she was mindbroken. She abandoned her hopes and dreams, and her 'friends' were happy for her.
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>never finished the show because I stopped paying attention towards the end
>this happens
what the shit?great idea, make the MC a mind broken shut in and have her friends and family encourage it
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>>143864453
You think it's wrong apparently. Publicity agent says all's well though. I'm inclined to agree. I finally watched the ending. You were all seriously over-reacting, inexplicably trying to be like those cool Japanese otaku apparently.
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The anime was shit anyways, the joke got old 2 episodes in
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>>143864453
It's a gag series with a talking bear. The point is that everything goes back to normal and the city will come up again eventually.
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This is the first show I dropped at ep. 10.

Now I'm just waiting for asangi to put the final nail in the coffin.
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>>143847026
>ANN baits people with a news title that doesn't have anything to do with its actual content once again
When will your kind learn, OP? When will you fucking learn?
At least this incident was good enough as an example of what happens when people don't get an ending that they expect. People are far dumber than I thought.
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>>143857824
Oh nice, I haven't deleted this yet.
Such a fucking dark ending holy shit.
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So basically this anime is about anti retaliation? No one the nips are such beta fucks, because they don't retaliate back against anyone that wrongs them.
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>>143857824
>the second she's done the hallucinations of stoning come back in full force even though the crowd is cheering for her

The crowd is just faking it. You know out of being nice and all. It's like with Obongo's state of the union address to the American people. All the people in there had to clap what Obongo was saying even though ever single thing coming out of his mouth is shit.
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>>143851038
Kuma Miku was pretty good save for the ending.
Berserk is a steaming pile of shit.
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>>143864989
The anime is acutally a kind of interesting story of a girl with no social skills or street smarts, trying to get over those issues with some amateru hour exposure therapy, because she wants to go to school in Tokyo. It doesn't work out in the end and everything returns to the way it was before she wanted to go to school in Tokyo. Also along the way there's lots of fanservice and cute girl bullying.
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Kind of proves people can't handle realistic stories about trauma, everyone wants that convenient happy ending.
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>>143864972
It doesn't have the mindbreak element to it in that page but it's actually disconcerting how awful she is with tech there. Natsu is literally treating her like a retard in that last panel.
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>>143865444
When you've got a talking bear I don't know why you wouldn't have a happy ending or at least one that isn't super sad.
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>>143858950
>Some people interpreted the scene as Machi having a total breakdown and regresing mentally a la pepe
Some is understating it. Most people saw it that way. Heck, even people who only saw just that ending clip saw it that way.
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>>143864433
It was added back in almost immediately after he removed it because Wikipedia editors are very particular that way.
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It's always fun to see people getting all mad

I personally thought it was a bit too much, a new level of bullying if you ask me.

Why can't naysayers accept it? No, I don't care if she didnt go to the city, no I don't care if she never realizes her dreams

I was expecting >>143864634
and it was pretty much that with a really bad taste of reality and a heavy tone tried to pass off as comedy.
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>>143847026
Holy shit that sounds like he was obligated to say that.
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>>143847026
Didn't he originally say something like "that last line was too cruel".
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its just autism. I had no problems with the ending. It was shit but I didn't lose any sleep over it.
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I haven't even watched this yet, but saved a gajillion of reaction images of it.

Whoever made them is super good at making reaction images with transparency, big images, yet low file sizes, and, most importantly, recognizable thumbnails. If he got better at making less edgy (as in, there being blocky edges on the outside) images, he'd get the potential to become a true master artisan of reaction image craftsmanship.
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>>143847026
I liked the ending, I don't get what all this is about. I prefer Machi as a pure and innocent Miko than a city whore.
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>>143869763
Yoshio did nothing wrong and told no lies.
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>>143869837
something something Episode 8 something something
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What manga is this?

By the way, did anyone think that the OVA plot was stupid? no one followed Machi to see where she was going and what could have happened to her.
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>>143847026
Does this mean season 2 confirmed?
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>>143869898
He didn't lie about the job, and going to a local supermarket instead of a city seems like it wouldn't give her such a hard time. It was mostly Natsu being manipulative.
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Best girl probably won the idolb owl anyway.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiARsQSlzDc
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>>143847026
I like it a lot honestly.
Mind broken Machi was hilarious.
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>>143866198
She should be, her unprofessional remark literally put the writer out of work by putting all the blame on him.
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>>143870046
Oh, wow. You were actually right. She really did just jump to conclusions.
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>>143870299

Well the original comment summed it up. They're professionals and the mangaka respected the fact that they could handle the work without having to overlook every single line of dialogue. A mistake for sure but the mangaka did nothing "wrong" really. You don't really expect someone to fuck up your franchise that hard like that. I guess everyone learned a valuable lesson from it - don't trust random fucks with your work and expect it to work.
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>>143870299
> put the writer out of work by putting all the blame on him.
I wish. Faggot was working under a pseudonym.
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>anxiety attacks so bad they induce psychosis
Jesus, why doesn't anyone take her to see a psychiatrist?
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>>143871681
>Japan
>carrying about people with mental problems

pick one
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>>143870299
He was doing a fine job of that himself before the authors tumblr post by drawing attention to himself in the middle of the shitstorm by deleting his social media accounts and editing his wiki page.
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>>143871893
This is news to me, mind elaborating? I'm not sure if we're talking about Yoshimoto here.
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>>143872052
After the episode aired and the shitstorm began the head writer deleted several of his social media accounts and TOTALLY BY SHEER COINCIDENCE OBVIOUSLY an IP from his area was editing his wiki page to remove kumamiko from his list of works at the same time. Then the author made her post on tumblr where she remarked that she hated Yoshio's sacrifice line and regrets not reading the script before approving it. Look it up in the archive, the nips were going nuts over it.
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>>143872244
I've only been half paying attention to this since I've been like four episodes behind since last night, so I just might check out the archive if its got more fuckery involved then just otaku being butthurt.
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>>143871429
The writer worked on her suggestion to make them go to Sendai, and fans were already giving the writer shit for this decision. Author saying "I have no involvement" makes a great difference to how fans (especially the "anime original is always bad" fans) see things, it implies the studio disregarded the author's opinion when they didn't. Like Ninja Slayer, fans were giving Trigger shit when it turn out the way it is, but when the author said he gave the approval to animate it the way it is, all the negative remarks left.
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>>143872052

He deleted his Twitter account and removed any association of Kuma Miko from his Wikipedia page. Or at least SOMEONE from his area did, rather conveniently at the same time the Twitter account disappeared. This was at the point where people were bitching about the last episode(s) being complete shit so he just made the situation even worse by trying to 'hide'. The nips called him out on it pretty hard.
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>>143869907
>What manga is this?

Top Banana
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M-My name is M-Machi and my dream is to live in the c-city!
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>>143872365
I don't remember there being any substaintial backlash during Ninja Slayer's airing. My only complaint was that there wasn't nearly enough Yukako.
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Was the OVA any good? I just want to forget about this.
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>>143874725
I'm not sure its out yet
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It's fucking art, i hate this bunch of entitled fags thinking they have control of the show or something.
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