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Still waiting for the subs
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>>143710932
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>making another thread after the last one died before reaching the bump limit
What are you doing.
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is macross always setup the same way?
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>>143711260
Yes.
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Freyja >>> Mirage
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>>143710932
Cute Mirage is best girl

>>143711123
Spot the windnigger
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>>143711260
No
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>>143711616
Sasuga best girl.
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>>143710932
Is that a red head elf?

Picked up
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>>143711123
Stay vegetable Shirokishi

>>143711260
Pretty much yeah, idol + nice songs + mecha jet + missiles + love triangle

>>143711678
No, She's not even the best girl in the series.
pic related
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>>143711739
Just a lewd space elf
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>>143711616
Freyja is totally best girl in series. Gori Gori is where it's at
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Keith -Sheryll 2.0
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>>143711616
I can't stand genki girls
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>>143712061
Pantsu episode soon?
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So one of the number in ending scene is Freyja's, how about another one?
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>>143712138
>I hate everything that is good

Why live?
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>>143711739
>picking show because of Mirage
You will regret it.
Just look at >>143711616 and change your mind while you can.
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>>143712138
What I understood from your post: I hate my life and wish to become even more miserable
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>>143712686
No. Let them start the show bcs of Mirage and then watch them slowly but surely switch to the Freyja side bc that's where the good of Macross Delta really is
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MIRAGEFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>143710932
>>143711010
Delicious elf
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>>143712138
>Freyerfags still deny this

Macross Delta: Do you Remember White Album?
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>>143711010
>we'll never see Mirage's angry ear twitch again
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>>143711616
>Freya Wion
More like Freya Liost
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>>143713078
Freya No Win
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Just saw Netflix is going to stream Kuromukuro. Could they be the ones to save Macross from HG?
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>>143712686
Hey if I pick it up for the elf and it turns out there's a better girl I'm not gonna complain.
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I'm starting to slowly dislike Freyja with every new episode because I feel like they are pushing that she is the perfect girl way too hard lately.
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>>143713438
Please watch it and then tell us your favorite girl
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>>143713600
Give the loser all of the focus and screentime
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Take a shot of tequila every time Hayate yells "Freyja!" followed by Mirage yelling "Hayate!"
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>>143713629
Alright I'll shitpost about my favourite girl in a couple days
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[DeadFish] Macross Delta - 14 [720p][AAC].mp4
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>>143713600
It's can't be help. Kawamori always suck main girl's dick, just like what he do to Sheryl in Sayonara no tsubasa.
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>>143714163
Dohohoho.
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>>143713762
Are you trying to kill me?
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Bogue will win the Freyjabowl with Hermans blessing
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Ending is pure Freyja/Hayate shipping. Will it had alternative endings for Mirage?
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>>143713177
>Freya No Win

Wion
I Won

Sorry, loser second heroines who can't top polls can't apply.
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>>143714613
>not Second son-kun
>>143714875
Maybe
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Hayate in Messer Seigfried and Bogue in Keith Draken fight over Freyja. Roid orders Knights to capture Freyja
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>>143715067
Stop this meme. Bogue is not involved in triangle.
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>>143715190
He will. He is one of the multiple triangles in the show
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>>143713600
Same.

She had the best combination as quirky/genki/clumsy girl in episode 1.

Now she is turning too flawless and fawned over for my liking.
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>>143715067
>>143715267
>>143715190
Roid is more interested on Freyja than Bogue. They even had their VA fight over her in the GGRadio he was a guest.
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>>143713600
Are they really? I only really got that from episodes 8 and 13.
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>>143713600
>Still pushing this again
Just because she quickly get up on her feet doesn't mean she's perfect. You just don't like her.
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>>143711616
>That transition
Our girl is growing up ;_;
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>>143711616
Use the latest version.
>>143716294
She's act more mature lately. I'm so proud.
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SUBS WHERE REEEEEEE
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>>143716459
Under water now.
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>>143716563
link?
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>>143714459
Also take a shot of tequila every time Mirage gasps when she sees Hayate and Freyja interact.
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>>143713600

I agree for now but there's still a lot of time left and Freyja hasn't really addressed some of her bigger issues like whether she's really okay with being a tool used to subdue her own people or would she become the new wind singer if Roid suggests she could end the war and help Windermere by singing. I doubt they're going to end the show without giving her some kind of difficult decision to make regarding her race. I look at these last few episodes as them letting the other characters (and the plot) catch up to Hayate and Freyja in terms of development because those two dominated the first 8 or so episodes.
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>>143717113
Since episode 10. I don't know what they want to implying.
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>Mirage's body rubbing all over Hayate
>He doesn't even blush or react to it
>Freyja simply sings
>Hayate comments all the time about how her singing makes him feel so good and he basically orgasms and has out-of-body experiences where he "feels the wind"

It isn't even a contest.
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>>143718215
Nah, he only loves her songs for now.
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>>143717680
Episode 16 should address her life expectancy insecurities. "Hesitant Birthday". She should be turning 15 which is the halfway point of the 30 years life expectancy for windermereans. I can't imagine even the happiest and YOLO-est person to not worry about it or not to be a bit resentful of their circumstances. Nobody wants to die when they have so many dreams like Freyja does. Specially now that she's made friends, found her resolve, found someone she likes, and realizing her dream of singing alongside walkure.
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>>143718331
being freyja is suffering
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I laugh at people saying that Freyja is too perfect. Really bitch? This girl is destined to die at 30 and you think she's got it all figured out and working for her?! That's fucked up. IMO Freyja's the one that's got it worst of the whole Delta cast. Kawamori really fucked her over.
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>>143718331

Mikumo gets revealed to be a jellyfish that has lived for centuries, and she'll determine that she's lived along enough life and will give up the remainder of her life to Freyja so that she can now lead Walkure towards the future, with Kaname being her older sister/mentor figure.
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>>143718522
I would kiss the ground Mikumo walks on if she's able to help Freyja with her life expectancy. I've actually been rolling it around in my head that Mikumo might be some Protoculture/priestess/guardian thing so maybe she could pull off a feat like that. I just want Freyja to live.
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just watch raws
i gave up waiting for doki because im never touching gg's releases
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>>143718456
are you the guy that keeps complaining about nunsfags?
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>>143718774
No. Wrong anon.
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>>143718774
NUNS and NUNSfags genocide when?
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>>143718326
Boy, there are four more singers and he only loves hers.
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>>143718331
I think "hesitant" because some people around her might be really feel bad celebrating it.
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My personal recommendation is to rewatch Delta since the beginning and pay attention to Hayate's and Freyja's mannerisms when they're interacting. They mimic each other/react the same way at the same time that it's actually really fucking scary how in sync they are. I did this and was like WTF
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>>143719248
They're brother and sister, same father and different moms.
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>>143718995
>last episode, Delta and Windermere join forces against NUNS
>NUNS BTFO
>NUNSfags commit sudoku
What a glorious day it will be.
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>>143719280
Sit your incestuous ass down
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>>143719248
They are soulmates. As Plato stated

>According to Greek mythology, humans were originally created with four arms, four legs and a head with two faces. Fearing their power, Zeus split them into two separate parts, condemning them to spend their lives in search of their other halves.

>...and when one of them meets the other half, the actual half of himself, whether he be a lover of youth or a lover of another sort, the pair are lost in an amazement of love and friendship and intimacy and one will not be out of the other's sight, as I may say, even for a moment...
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>>143718215
Same thing happened in SDF. Hikaru was barely aware of Misa until pretty well into the series.
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Whats the best Delta song and why it's AXIA?
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>>143719902
Well I didn't exactly want to say soul ates bcs of how corny that mightve sound. But I do agree that they complement each other in ways that other people are incapable of doing. For example that resonance thing. If all five of the Walkure are capable of producing fold receptors how come Hayate only resonates with freyja? Also, it's been heavily implied that Mikumo has higher fold receptor values than Freyja so logically, shouldn't she also be able to resonate with Hayate if it was just about fold receptors? There's the thing. A resonance is when two "souls" are in sync and accept each other in their barest state.

I don't care if Miragefags disagree. You just can't freaking deny that Hayate and Freyja are way too in sync and connected to one another. And it doesn't even have to be a romantic resolution. Love comes in many forms.
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>>143720149
>they turned Mirage into Misa
imokaywiththis.jpeg
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>>143720477
You want Mirage to become a useless melodrama bitch?
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>>143720149
Yeah. Except that Hikaru and Minmay was never going to work because they had very different goals and were too different which is what ultimately led Hikaru to Misa. Whereas Freyja and Hayate have the same mindset, goals and inspire each other in what the other lacks.
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>>143720516
>implying she hasn't been that all along
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>>143718697
With the amount of immense foreshadowing they are doing with Mikumo being protective of Freyja, it's hard to believe she won't be apart of reviving or rebirthing Freyja. Ikenai Borderline talks about death and rebirth, and in the album version, Freyja and Mikumo sings those lines together.
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>>143721141
2deep4me desu senpai
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NUNsfags think One World Government is a good thing too. They think aliens is an ok reason to forcefully unite the earth. They seem to believe in Star Trek Utopian BS.
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>>143720868
At least she not useless, she rescue Freyja in episode 13.
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>>143720149
Because Misa was going to fuck Global until well into the series, anon. Did you not know she was a forced love interest and the real love triangle was Kaifun-Minmay-Hikaru (with Hikaru losing)?
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>>143720329
>You just can't freaking deny that Hayate and Freyja are way too in sync and connected to one another.

The whole ending is about Freyja and Hayate not being in sync, so there's Hayate's journey to fucking giant Freyja and harmonizes again. Pay attention, there's their fold waves resonating in spiral around his Valk. Whoever Hayate fucks, Freyja will be always be the most important person.
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>>143721141
They did say it'll be about a mother's love too. Does Mikumo sees Frey Frey as her daughteru?
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>>143721811
Not to undervalue Mirage's efforts in rescuing Freyja but what kind of Vice captain says to the Rookie to take care of the big Boss pilot who singlehandedly killed their most skilled fighter (messer) and then proceeds to just fly around for the rest of the fight while watching hayate do what she should at least be trying to help do?
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>>143720226
Bokura no Senjou and Neo Stream are up there. They sure know how to build up the hype with the latter, even with how silly the Engrish is.

Full ED 2 when?
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>>143722099
Maybe she's Freyja's daughteru.
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>>143722060
Yeah. Here's my take on it actually that I posted on another forum. A few hours afterwards, I saw someone say something along the same lines here on 4chan so I was happy to realize I wasn't delusional on my theory
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>>143722557
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>>143722601
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>>143722151
That was really shitty, specially when she was surprised Hayate started to fly differently.
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>>143722642
That's what I got from the Ed sequence :)
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>>143722601
I didn't notice that until you mentioned it. Sasuga Kawakawa.
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>>143722642
>>143722601

It's Hayate's journey to Freyja. We know. Mirage is there as their witness. It gives me the feel they'll disappear together while Mirage would mutter "kireeiii."
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>>143722099
No there has been some talk that one of the VA's slipped and mentioned Mikumo is Freyja daughter. Check the archives
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>>143722601
>>143722642

How can Mirage compete? They got a full fucking ending about their relationship while all Mirage did about her 'team up' with Hayate is a shitty short shot on the first OP.
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What if Hayate's necklace is a red herring?
It's fold quartz, but he doesn't actually need it and it's just a sentimental thing for him. What if he gives it to Mirage so that she can feel the wind?
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>>143722099
naaa wind singer sucesor
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>>143722642
>>143722689
The only thing skeptical about the last part is why Walkure as a hold and not Freyja? Perhaps the fold jamming thing NUN was talking about will not only affect Heinz but also Walkure, leaving them without support. Which would explain the "Scattering on Stage" episode.
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>>143722601
>>143722642
Wasn't very impressed with the ED visuals but if this is accurate, it's nice that parts of it have a whole lot of meaning behind them.
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Before Mirage could develop on the romantic front, I think she should focus on figuring out what it is that she actually wants to do and work on it. Yeah she wants to be a better pilot but I think she's applying her efforts in a wrong manner. It's like Hayate days, fly by your heart. Cheesy but true. If your heart isn't in it, you're gonna fail. Give Mirage some justice and develop her as a proper character IMO the romantic triangle is just tarnishing how great she could've been if she was instead focusing on her pilot skills and improving along with overcoming her inferiority complex.
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First ED was about Freyja waiting for Hayate, second one is Hayate flying to Freyja.
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>>143722974

>Wasn't very impressed with the ED visuals

>>143698312
>>143698810
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>>143723207
Now this is deculture. I have to echo those sentiments, it's a different story when that information is taken into consideration.
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>>143723207
I liked the animation from the get go (the song not so much but it's grown on me). Then again it could just be bcs I'm a huge slut for pretty colors.
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Freyja winning the bowl will be groundbreaking. Ripples will be felt across Macross fandom. Do it, Kawamori.
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>>143721800
>They think aliens is an ok reason to forcefully unite the earth.

An extinction level threat is perhaps the only good reason to forcefully unite the earth.
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>>143723440
>groundbreaking
How?
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>>143722986

I think they're going to play it like planning and tactics is what she is going to be able to put her heart into. She won't get gud at piloting, instead she'll get gud at commanding and be able to help delta squad in that way.
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>>143723508
It'll be the first time the loli heroine counterpart won.
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>>143723517
Basically embracing Kaname's advice.
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>>143723445
not even Independence Day had the Earth united. There was an alliance though.
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>>143723508
Outsiders and normalfags believed that Macross triangle is all about Mature/Tsundere older woman win the bowl.
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Star Trek brainwashed an entire generation that United Earth is wonderful thing.
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>>143723561

Exactly. And like Kaname she'll probably get one scene where she's needed on the battlefield and hopefully she'll come through instead of getting someone (probably Chuck) killed.
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>>143722772
If Mikumo turns out to be Freyja's daughter that's some Sailor moon/tuxedo mask being chibiusas parents in the future and chibiusa coming to them in the present reference. So since Mikumo doesn't seem to have a Rune that would mean that if she is indeed Freyja's daughter, Freyja had her with a human (?) Maybe a human whom she has a strong resonance with. I doubt the Freyja-mama route tho.
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>>143723517
She's an amazing pilot, she just can't think on her feet.
If the manual says she should do X in a situation, she'll do X no matter what. If her opponent reacts differently than how the manual lays things out, she doesn't know what to do.
She doesn't need to get good at piloting, she just needs to work on how she responds to stress and learn to improvise.
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I would love it if Mirage would follow in Kaname's footsteps and become a tactical leader instead of the Ace. Perhaps Mirage's main role is to be the supporting role that pushes everyone else forward. Not everything is about always being in the front with the most credit.
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>>143723440
Ever the older girl won!

Riot! Riot!
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>>143723679
But Earth Federations/Governments are always useless, dumb or evil in mecha anime.
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>>143723873
apparently long time Macross fans couldn't take a hint.
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wont we get HayaMira team up like in the OP?
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>>143723975
Just wait, it would be hard because Delta theme is about singer-pilot teamwork the only think we can do is wait.
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>>143723975
I was just for the OP like Keith in Battroid mode vs Messer in Battroid mode.
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>>143724013
Mirage will piggy back on Hayate and Freyjas wind. Syncing all 3
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Mirage is cuter than Freyja when embarrassed.
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>>143724084
Bogue is getting some of that Wind too.
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>>143724120
Yeah, Freyja act more mature lately while Mirage is acting more girly.
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>>143724120
That's becauae mirage is a child and freyja is an old hag
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>>143716423
Far right second from bottom is a perfect reaction image.
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>some of the scene in opening still not happen yet
>meaningless look ED implying so many fucking things
What the fuck Kawamori?
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>>143720226
>DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI DOKI
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>>143723679
>Star Trek brainwashed an entire generation that United Earth is wonderful thing.

The NUNSfags in this thread behave nothing like someone who was brainwashed by Star Trek, they're more like Humanity Fuck Yeah thread posters.
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>>143723561
But Kaname renewed her determination to shine as a singer after Messer died.
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Fucking gg need to get their dumb asses out of some normalfag con and get to subbing my chinese cartoons so we can shitpost about freyja and mirage more
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>>143722601
>>143722642
Damn. Freyjaflag strong.
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nyaa is down, can't check for subs
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>>143724697
We know that Mirage can live without flying from jellyfish festival unlike Kaname, who the whole life has dreamed to be an idol.
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>>143724754
Just check gg's page?
It's not out either way
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>>143724754
It's back up.

How long does it take to recover from AX?
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>>143724889
Depends on whether or not there was a MLP event there.
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I'd love it if Mirage impulsively asked Hayate for help, and they took a couple of episodes showing them coming together with the aim of bringing out her intuitive side. Maybe they could them be a team like Max and Milia were.

I could see that kind of thing happening. But, it all depends on how the story moves. If it continues to favor Freyja, then no. No to any other couples forming either.
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subs when
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Windermerians are fags, Freyja excluded.
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>>143718995
>>143719287
>oh noes, bunch of shady politicians is conducting "evil" experiments in backwater sector of the galaxy
>lets glass the Earth!

Literally Zeonshit.
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>>143724927
>it all depends on how the story moves. If it continues to favor Freyja, then no. No to any other couples forming either.

The thing is that is very likely going to be what happens because Kawamori's main heroine favoritism has and likely will always be way too strong

I don't think Kawamori has ever been interested in doing proper love triangles and SDF triangle was more of a byproduct of how anime was produced back in the 80s.
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>>143725494
He can do mad turn and make polyamorous ending
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>>143723679
Federation was preceded by Third World War and literal police state.
UN was preceded by discovery of alien space ship, and unification wars, where Anti-UN were hardly the good guys.
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>>143724241
ED is about shit that is happening and was already hinted by the VA.

Hayate needs Freyja to function. Story is about pilot resonating with idol. Mirage is a third wheel.
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>>143724927
Did you nigger see the ending? The story is about Hayate and Freyja. Mirage is just some random girl who will witness everything >>143722601
>>143722642
>>143722689


>muh max and milia

Max and Milia are ALL fucking about interspecies romance of two opposing sides of the war. This meaningless battle couple shit isn't even acknowledged by Kawamori was the meat of it. Freyja and Hayate relationship was compared to theirs by fucking Mirage.
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>>143725996
The backers aren't going to be happy if there's not a significant triangle in the show. Think back on the other macross shows. There's always some kind of back and forth play within the triangle. That's what the backers demand. So, guess what?

Just because we haven't seen this yet doesn't mean it's not coming. Have a little faith.
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>>143724927
>Freyja is needed.
>Hayate needs Freyja
>Hayate cannot do anything without Freyja

From VA's mouths. Mirage is a third wheel here. Freyja will always be there.
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>>143726144
Look at Kawamori's triangles from his past few shows and you'll realize that all of them have been one sided as hell while the third point is shafted hard. The sponsors want a triangle and Kawamori technically gives them one in a fuck you kind of way.
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>>143726144
VA words
ED
The show itself
Interview
Kawamori always favors one girl in the "triangle"
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>>143726144
>There's always some kind of back and forth play within the triangle.

Are you stupid? 7 triangle was nonexistent. Plus was a trainwreck. Zero involved a 9 years old who obviously wasn't real competition. Frontier was the only "aggressive" triangle. This triangle is called a pale/faint one, it's not supposed to be a soapy one.
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>>143726144
What? They just wanted a triangle, Kawamori delivered one he calls a "pale triangle." But his hero and heroine were decided since the draft about pairs of pilots and singers.
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SUBS FUCKING WHERE REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>143712138
>I am misserable and my life sucks so fuck everything nice.

Heads up anon, the way out of depression is manning up and enjoying things and NOT feeding the demon. If that doesn't work for you then pic related is the final stop.
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>>143726593
Don't get mad at GG
get mad at Macek
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>>143720226
Axia has the emotional impact of Messer both in the song itself and in the context we as viewer/listerner saw/heared it.

My favorite is neo stream though. I've loved it sicne that episode it first played in (8?)
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Japanese speculations:
Roid - Loki
Keith - Baldr
Heinz - Höðr (Bard's blind brother that was tricked by Loki into killing his brother)
Hayate - Heimdallr (once regained Freyja's treasured possession Brísingamen while doing battle in the shape of a seal with Loki. Heimdallr and Loki are foretold to kill one another during the events of Ragnarök.)
Ernest - Thor
Messer - Víðarr (the silent god)
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>>143726885
>Bard's
*Baldr's
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>>143726885

>Ernest - Thor

Don't do this to me. I already have the worst case of blue balls from wanting to see Ernie fuck up some shit while macronized.
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>>143727086
He was pretty great in the last couple of episodes. I want some more of that shit in the future.
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>>143726144
A triangle doesn't have to be a close horse race to be a triangle. Mutual attraction between two people (who havent yet become a couple) and a third wheel who has feelings for one of them. One person liking another who likes another who is clueless is another. Or any other variation.
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Let's decide this. Freyja or Mirage

http://pollit.me/305
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Got Kawamori to sign my DECALtured sieg. Shame I couldn't get a pic/vid of him.
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>>143727695
I'm so fucking jelly.
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>>143727695
Congratulations!
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>>143727695
You piece of shit
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>>143727590
A vote for Bogue is a vote to end waifuwars.
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>>143727590
Was it rape?
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>>143727695
Neat.
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>>143727590
Bogue best girl.
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>>143728388
>>143728410
The arts look bad.
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>>143728494
Yeah, those look pretty cheap and nasty.
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>>143728410

>tfw no beach episode
>tfw no MakiRei taking an embarrassed Mirage swimsuit shopping
>tfw no fully clothed Mikumo in the ocean just to maintain shimpi

My life is hollow.
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>>143728599
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>>143728732
Pics like this make me want to proclaim Mirage as best girl. If only the series followed the style of pics like this...

Anyway, I like this kind of art.
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>>143728773
You have to accept that Zents are for bullying.
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>>143729019
I like to think of them as space elves. They're fun that way.
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>>143723583
Seriously nigger?
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>>143729443
They are space orcs.
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>>143729443
>>143729691
The men are orcs, the women are elves
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>>143726144
Ah yes I remember the deep and complex love triangles that went into both parties romantic feelings that was 7 and Zero.
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>>143729813
It makes a lot of sense that the two sexes were originally at war with each other. Orcs and Elves seem to hit it off like that. Moar!
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>>143729826
It's like people after Frontier can't think of a triangle as anything other than the shitshow of a triangle that it had. The shows you mentioned had them triangles too, just like every other macross has had one, buy none of them has been quite like the others.
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>>143729899
They were never at war though. That's a provably uncanon part of DYRL
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>>143729813
Women aren't elves. Their ears aren't even that pointy. Zolans have pointy ears.
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>>143719902
What if Freyja was subconsciously brainwashing Hayate with her singing?
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>>143730048
>he thinks meltrans aren't space elves
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>>143730048
My guess is that Mirage's dad is Zolan or part Zolan to explain her ears like Klan and Michel (both had Zolan blood in them).

>>143730063
Sounds like a retarded theory made by Mirage landwhales who have watched too many soap operas.
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>>143730156
No, they aren't. Zolans are. Klan was also a Hybrid Zolan. That's how she got those very pointy ears - it's a trait of Zolans, not Meltran (they are barely curved).
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Can we get a dogfight going?
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>>143710932
i can't stop listening to that ed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo4mLVeEz0g
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>>143729813
>>143729899
They're both orcs fighting something else. The sexes just lived apart.
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>58,103 Macross Δ OP/ED "Ichido dake no Koi nara / Rune ga Pika tto Hikattara" by Walküre (Mikumo Δ JUNNA, Freyja Δ Minori Suzuki, Kaname Δ Kiyono Yasuno, Makina Δ Nozomi Nishida, Reina Δ Nao Touyama)

>5,584 Macross Δ OST 1 by Saeko Suzuko,TOMISIR, Mina Kubota
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>>143730519
I hope the album does well when it releases tomorrow even though it's been leaked a week ahead
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>>143730712
I already ordered it. Walkure and their great songs deserve more love and money.
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>>143730519

The OST is really good. Heinz' song is especially great. Shame it doesn't really sell.
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>>143730841
blew too much money on the BD's. That's my excuse anyway.
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>>143730906
It wasn't really going to by comparison. Frontiers had crazy sales because aside from singles, they didn't really do any vocal albums until much later, stick the vocal songs on the soundtracks.

I do like the OST, but only a handful are really memorable to me. Nothing's bad though
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>>143730712
I'm not really worried about the album. Worried about the blurays though.
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>>143710932
Blame it on AX. Translation's been done on time as long as I can see on twitter
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>>143730963
Well it's not gonna pull Frontier numbers, but I don't think anyone expected it to. Still a bit over two weeks before the first one releases
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>>143731022
Kanno is love Kanno is life.
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>>143731022
I really hoped it would be on the 15k-20k range but it doesn't look like they will sell more than 15k. Well, Walkure's album will sell like pancakes anyways.
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>>143725580
This mad man always do what he want. He always suck main girl's dick such as Mikono and Sheryl. He also give no shit about second heroine like Zessica. Being Zessica is suffering.;_;
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>>143730325
>junna
>15 years old
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>no subs
>go to bed
>wake up
>no subs
>go to bed
>wake up
>no subs

When will it stop ;_;
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This Mirage service was amazing.
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>>143730179
>My guess is that Mirage's dad is Zolan or part Zolan to explain her ears like Klan and Michel (both had Zolan blood in them).

Zolan are marsupials and according to that background radio drama from the OVA can't breed with humans (presumably by extension Zentradi) because of it.
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>>143731993
I wasn't talking about Junna (who is 16 years old btw), I was asking for the current wings.io room
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>>143732191
Old rooms are unjoinable. Here's a new one.

http://wings.io/#1wdw
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>>143732191
it was directed to >>143730356
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I want to take Junnas virginity
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Hot damn SHERURU you're good

Also this game had the longest reign of me as King so far, but I'm nowhere near the skill I want to have

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM SPACE
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Anyone meet with Kawamori at AX?
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>>143732634

>15-year-old girl
>virgin

kek.
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>>143732778
Anyone got a transcript of the Kawamori panel from AX?
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>>143732877
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>>143732951
WE WUZ KYUNGS N SHIT
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>>143732951
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>>143733006
What happens if you unplug Freyja? Does her rune stop shining?
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>>143733018
it will be very painful
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>>143732951
>>143733006
>ywn never take a picture with Kawamori-sama
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>>143732951
Why didn't those green hairs punch him in the face?
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>>143726694
One day you'll come to understand and accept that Robotech is the salvation of Macross, as it was intended to be, and that your hate should be focused on the pathetic manchild that can't break free of his demented idol paradigm. All he does is change character names and release the same series over and over again. When you realize this, and come to understand the pure contempt Kawamori has for you and your needs, we at Harmony Gold will still be here to deliver what Kawamori is incapable of: proper military science fiction, where wars are fought with steel and blood, not with skirts and songs.
t. Carl Macek, the Invid Flower of Life

P.S. - Considering how gg has failed every week to deliver subtitles in a timely manner, just consider that we could have dubbed the series in the same amount of time. It could have been a better world, a Robotech world.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np0gCP-YNpQ
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Can Freyja really compete with Blushed Mirage?
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>>143733157
There won't be a macross delta movie
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>>143733195
>Can Freyja really compete with Mirage?

No by lightyears.
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>>143725490
>nuking a planet, killing their own soldiers and innocent civilians
>"evil"
More like EVIL.
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>>143733195
Can Mirage and Freyja compete with Hayate's denseness?
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>>143713298
>Could they be the ones to save Macross from HG?
probably not
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>>143730712
I would so but it if the price want killing me and I wasn't already planning on buying BD1
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>>143733242
You don't seriously believe that do you?
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>>143733242
I wonder what they will do in movie if the triangle is already resolve.
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>>143734468
They won't resolve it or not make it official or some shit
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>>143712025
when did that scene on the bottom happen
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>>143732276
>K-kaname-san

Oh no, I shot her down
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>>143734230
>>143734468
Next yeart it's going to be Symphogear and that new 2-cour anme.
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>>143734495
last ep didnt you watch the raws
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>>143734495
They're trying to fix the island system. Mirage is going full blushed and Hayate is shouting "MUH SKY!!!".
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>>143734701
why is hayate not on the side of the windniggers already his midset is totally that of a windnigger
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>>143734739
I'm confused too. He was a jobber in episode 1 and after riding Valkyrie he became a windfag.
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>>143728388
>>143728410
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>>143710932
Haven't watched it in a while. So is she in the triangle now or what? Still nowhere to be found as usual?
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DELTA FOUR
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>>143734930
There's no triangle, Freyja got btfo
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>>143734956
>Freyja got btfo
Wut

So who's winning?
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>>143734992
The wind.
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>>143735014
Why the fuck am I not surprised.
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>>143734992
Don't listen to them anon, at this point Freyja NOT winning would be the plot twist of the season.
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>>143734992
Stop and think what you just asked
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>>143734956
B-but that spoon-feed scene thought.
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>>143735061
Also those "Freyja!" and "Hayateee".
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>>143735235
This looked like a Kawamori scene to me. Think about it. He went out of the way to storyboard this one scene for this episode.
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>>143735056
Well I'm not seeing it in the show.

Mirage hasn't had a moment like Freyja with Hayate.
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I'm utterly convinced in the victory of the girl i root for. I feel no need to persuade anyone else to my way of thinking, and we know turning the thread into shipping wars never goes well. Wish others would follow my lead.
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IF MIRAGE DOESN'T WIN, WE RIOT
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>>143735333
>We
you and...?
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>>143735285
What kind of Kawamori scene you talking about?
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>>143735056
Is the kid with the green shirt Heero from Gundam Wing, or am I retarded?
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>>143735360
me
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How is it in an episode where Mirage presses her tits against Hayate's naked back, that HayaFre still came out looking stronger?
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god damn it Kaname, you are one of the most annoying players

I hope you enjoyed eating my beamspam

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM SPACE
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>>143735494
HayaMira would be strong if Hayate blushed but he only shouting "I will bring the sky back!".
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>>143735235
I'm getting tired of the shouting each other's names.
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>>143735494
Because Hayate had zero reaction to the entire thing.
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>>143735395
That's Basara
>>143735494
Because people take Hayate and Freyja's platonic friendship as romantic.
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>>143735478
Thats still 1 man
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>>143735576
>implying that is me

hah
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>>143735561
They're calling each other name since episode 4. I never get tired of that thought, it's kinda hilarious and I'm a shipper.
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>>143735494
>that HayaFre still came out looking stronger?
Seriously these shippingidiots are getting ridiculous. Every single thing you type is only there to bait some guy from the oposite side to bite in a dumb as hell shipping war.

Are you dumb shits only capable of speaking in memes and baiting? I get that even the dumb people need to have something that gives them a sense of accomplishment, but how can there be so many of you?
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>>143735576
I'm anonymous, it says so in the name, and apperantly we are legion. so that means there is more of us
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>>143735574
>friendship
Yeah it's friendship for nonshipper. But they have a really good relationship even it's not a romantic things.Just like when Hayate go peeking Freyja in episode 11. It's not a really obvious romantic feeling but it's show that Hayate's caring about Freyja.
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>>143735758
There's zero romance there though, none at all.
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>>143735787
Yeah, because he didn't give any romantic vibe to any of them.
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WINDNIGGER GENOCIDE SOON
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>>143735787
Why would they put all of that scene in then? It's a relationship developing , there're also Mirage and Hayate's scene that lead to their relationship developing too.
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>Lady M loves Hayate Immelman
Sasuga Mad man. He planned this 30 years ago.
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>>143735235
You think if I were to make a compilation video of them calling each other's name. I would have enough to make one?
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>>143736373
I remember one from niconico like way back when ep 8 aired.
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>>143736370
HOLYSHIT
>>143736373
Like this one? http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28914245 Just do it anon we need an update
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Where are my _subs?
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I wonder, from a narative point of view, what they are going to do with Mirage. While I don't really care about who wins (come on they are both great, Mirage is cute as hell and it is impossible to not like Freya) I find it kind of strange that the writers put in a scene like this but not make it have any impact at all. Neither Mirage nor Hayate developed from this. The scene itself would therefore seem like a waste. One could argue that it was just there for "fun" or as some of the Freyashippers would say to show "how useless Mirage is", but lets be realistic here.
No matter what the story is doing, Mirage is sold as a main character and part of the triangle and they are not advancing her story by doing this. Why would they waste time here without developing characters? Is this scene actually just there to give Mirage more screen time and show that she is awkward around Hayate? Maybe the writers are now going to spend more time on Mirage since they spent so much time on Freya in the first half? If so then they are doing a poor job by spending screen time on characters without it serving to further develop them. I get the feeling they don’t really know where to go with Mirage as a character. She’s obviously the weakest developed love interest and her character has not (or barely) advanced over the first half of the series. Either the series is going to push her more tot he forefront in the coming half or she is going to orbit around the Freya-Hayate ship and exist only as a third person to fill up the triangle.

What wories me is the fact that even Freya with her well developed relation to Hayate is not advancing past this “slightly flirting” stage. Her relation with him has been so strong since the earliest episodes. It can’t stay this way for much longer without developing.

I feel that the next couple of episodes are really going to be telling us a lot about where these relationships are going. If neither actually develops why might get the dreaded wind ending.
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>>143737245
I don't even know how to describe Mirages personality without mentioning things she does
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>>143737245
I'm getting to the point that Mirage exists just to be the third point on the triangle and that they won't ever give her serious development on the same level as Hayate and Freyja because they seem to be refusing letting Freyja share the spotlight.

I also think that they just like fucking with people's expectations of the triangle since 14 summary was pretty much just huge bait. Characters being trapped together may be one of the bigger loser flags in the franchise, but it could have served as time to give Mirage some characterization while also fleshing out her relationship with Hayate, but instead we essentially got a fanservice scene with some music in the background and like you said doesn't really do anything for either Hayate or Mirage.
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>>143737245
With her character arc, I kinda want to see her branch out from her 'be an ace pilot to make grandpa/grandma/mom proud' attitude - especially since it doesn't look like she "can" step into the ace role, what with Hayate having Freyjabuffs till episode 22 and all.

Maybe her logical side, while weighing down her piloting, will make her good at planning tactics? Then her sudden promotion might be a chance for her to explore this side of her skillset.

Also I kinda want her to live up to the Jenius legacy by getting together with one of the windies if she loses the triangle - but that's probably a pipe dream lol
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>>143737245
>>143737698
They will do nothing, she is a background character an spectator
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>>143737245
Mirage = Zessica/Kagura/Himiko/Ranka
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>>143737245
>Mirage is sold as a main character and part of the triangle

I want this meme to end

>>143737698
Maybe they could make her like Werner Molders even up to dying in an air crash in which he was a passenger.
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>>143737882
Ranka lost the triangle hard, but at the very least she was still getting focus and development. Mirage is totally on her way to becoming another Zessica if they don't changing her direction soon.
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>>143738000
>>Mirage is sold as a main character and part of the triangle
>I want this meme to end
Says the meme
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NEVER BE SATISFIED, HUMAN DESIRES ARE LIMITLESS
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>>143738123
My desire for subs is limitless indeed
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>>143738123
THE PERFECTION
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You gotta be fucking kidding me, STILL no subs?
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>>143738382
Give gg a break, they probably have hell of a hangover after AX
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>>143738123
THERE'S A FREEDOM IN GALAXY
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>>143734992
>>143735014
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>>143738106
The show has proved that Mirage is not a main character and much less a love interest
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>>143738123
Humanity's Potential is Infinite!
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>>143738123
my human desires for mikumo are limitless, if you know what I mean
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>>143738734
People like you really can't read or pay atention to what you are watching. There is a difference between what is happening in the story on screen and what the show as an item is doing. From the art work to the OP it's always been a Freya-Hayate-Mirage trianglemacross thing.

That the story as it has been told so far does not put all characters on even footing does not change the fact that the product itself is actually sold as such.

Don't forget that we have only seen half the series and that none of us know what the writers grand scheme is. The story is far from over and character development is only now starting for some characters. You don't have all plotlines up and running in the first half already. Same goes for character development.
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>Hayate needs Freyja in order to do his best
>Hayate and Mirage have sex
>Freyja needs to be involved or he can't keep it up
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>>143738958
>Implying that Hayate will fuck anything that's not Wind, Sky, Freyja's song and Mercat.
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>>143738928
Reminder that Sheryl took the spotlight in the second half.
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>>143739062
They have roleplay sex.
Mirage dresses up like a cloud.
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>>143738958
Now I wonder which Macross girls and guys would fuck girls and guys from other seasons.
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>>143738928
You are the one that isn't paying attention. The sponsors wanted a triangle an Kawamori give them one but he does not give a fuck about it, he is clearly showing his preference for Freyja and turned Mirage into Zessica 2.0

>Don't forget that we have only seen half the series and that none of us know what the writers grand scheme is
Yes we know, it's the same formula since SDF Macross
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>>143735061
There're some nips talking about this scene. They said that Hayate feel a bit jealous when Freyja asked about Chuck. Delusional nip shippers are so insane.
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He's doing it wrong.
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>>143739551
>The sponsors wanted a triangle an Kawamori give them one but he does not give a fuck about it

Stop hiding behind some quote some anon picked up somewhere. Use your own brain to come to an actually conclusion based on arguments that are not some badly translated and out of context quote.

It does not change the fact that what I stated was that the PRODUCT is sold as such. if the actual execution of the show is a weak and shallow version of that concept (or as you seem to think a non existent version) it does not change the fact that the product IS sold as such.

>>143739551
>Yes we know, it's the same formula since SDF Macross
You've only seen half the product and thus don't know what is going to happen.
>>
Despite my previous post the show actually has options to turn this into viable plot devices. If they aren't going to advance Freya's relationship then they will have to use her "early lead" in a different way.

The thing is, and I've argued this point here before, Freya doesn't need Hayate for her storyline to develop. Her road to becoming part of Walküre and achieving her dreams is her main storyline. It's her singing that's important to her development (you just know her singing will be the key to whatever gimmic will be the end battle) when she saves the universe. She can achieve her ending point without Hayate (he will ofcourse play a huge roll in it, but he isn't needed romanticly). In other words Hayate is only a bonus for her.

Mirage on the other hand has no grand storyline. She can only develop as a person and for that she needs someone else in her life to change her. Her character arc/development actually needs Hayate for it to achieve anything at all.

It's hinted that Hayate without Freya is handicapped, so he WILL be without Freya in the future. From a narative point of view they might have pushed Freya so hard in the first half so that Hayate (and the viewer) have an incentive to go after her when they get seperated in the future (she gets kidnapped/leaves?). Hayate will strugle to do this because he is now powerless. In the seccond half the show brings Mirage more to the fore so that when Freya leaves the stage and when Hayate is suddenly powerless it will be Mirage that picks him up. Giving Mirage more screentime to make her stand out more here in the middle, but develop her in the last 1/3 of the show to push their relationship would then feel more natural. Afterall Hayate would only start noticing her in a romantic way at that point so she would only then need to develop.

Like I said, the next few episodes will determine which way the wind will blow.
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>>143739716
They don't give a shit, they just wanted to nuke the ruins.
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>>143738928
Agree. Honestly, Hayate so far has shown no romantic feelings for either and is oblivious to the fact that his actions can be pretty bold and flirty. It can still go both ways.

What I wonder is what would happen if Hayate and Mirage kept getting closer? Would his resonance with Freyja falter? Or would Freyja's resolve falter?
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>>143739716
This anon >>143740065 is probably right. Seems to me they weren't interested in the conflict itself, but only in the ruins.
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>>143740080
>Or would Freyja's resolve falter?
I wonder about that too. It would make for a plot point in such a scenario where she has to find her own resolve.

What means more, her crush or her dream of singing? Wasn't that also Minmay's dilema?
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>>143739942
So far the love triangle is a scam,bravo Kawamori

>You've only seen half the product and thus don't know what is going to happen
Yes we do, why do you think that we have a bingo about it
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>>143740080
>What I wonder is what would happen if Hayate and Mirage kept getting closer

Nothing because it will never happen
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>>143740329
>why do you think that we have a bingo about it
For the same reason that there are archetypes and ever recurring scenarios in everything ever made. There are some elements that are always a part of the story because it is Macross, that does not change the fact that the general story and storytelling can and will change.

If one thing is the same that does not mean that everything is the same.
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I'm Freyjafag and I don't give a shit about Mirage. She gets little to no development? So does Chuck and Arad. I don't care. I appreciate she is in the show to create at least some illusion of "competition", but that's it. She still gives fuel for shipping wars in these threads and I actually enjoy them.

I love Freyja and I love she gets a lots of focus. I like Hayate and I like he gets a lot of focus too. I love their interactions and development. Delta is great and and my very few complains have nothing to do with romance.

If you're unhappy with love triangle you just picked a wrong girl. Be wise next time. Don't chose your favourite girl based on "older girl wins", "space elf" or other stupid memes. Just listen to your heart. Freyja was the true miracle of this universe from episode 1.
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>>143740047
What about Mikumo. You need to analyze her role in the show. Why does it seem like she's being pushed as one of the main characters. Most people don't follow the macross tropes, or keep up with /a/ often recognize her as the third main character over Mirage, or 4th main character period. Is it just because she's Kawamori's favorite and self insert?

What's even weirder is the fact that even though the say the main triangle is faint, the VA's are spinning the heads of the audience while not giving actual hints to the plot or clue. None of them talk about Mikumo, and if you ask a question about her they just say to watch. I think they are using the love thing as a bait to distract people from the bigger picture. It's clear that this triangle is faint.
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>>143739942
Why is it always people who have a super strong conception of what the show SHOULD be like that are always bitching and calling it weak and shallow.
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>>143740247
It was also Ranka's. Ranka's dilemma was that she started singing for herself and everyone else but then she sang only for Alto and it backfired when he didn't return her feelings. Also, she wasn't properly facing her relationship with the Vajra and not following what her instinct told her, that killing Vajra like that was wrong (I can understand why, though). In the end she faces the Vajra issue, sings for everyone and saves the galaxy along Sheryl. It's just that I wonder if they are going to this with Freyja too. Since the director said this triangle would be more "feel good" I can see Freyja accepting it and then resonating with Hayate again in the next episode.

Plus, I think Freyja still has to face the fact that she's going against her own people and her own planet. She kind of did in episode 8 when she said she was going to bring peace through singing, but the fact is that Windermere may be fucked because of that black hole and no one knows the culprit and some of her countrymen are still very much hurt and not willing to let it go. What I mean is that there are still issues there to face before singing to bring peace for everyone.
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>>143740536
delusional miragefag, that's why
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We will only get peace when we burn the Windermere into cinders
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>>143740536
I'm not sure if you are referring to me (the guy you quoted) or to the other anon, but in my case I don't thing it's weak and shallow myself.

I have faith that Delta is better written then people give it credit for and that the seccond half is critical to the story and the development.
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>>143740712
>i-it's going to get better on the second half guis

ok
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>You need to analyze her role in the show. Why does it seem like she's being pushed as one of the main characters.

I'll state upfront that this is again a matter of what the show is telling. Fact remains that the main three, as sold, are Freya-Hayate-Mirage.

I do however believe that Mikumo is just as importan for a very different reason. As last episode hinted she has a much larger role to play and she might, as people have guessed since the beginning, turn out to be the "big bad" (I'm not sure she'll be evil, but I get the feeling she'll have a role similar to Sara's from Zero).
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>>143740787
That's not what I said anon.

I ment that we've only seen half the story and that you can't judge the overall story without knowing the seccond half.

I personally like what I've been fed so far.
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>>143740712
might have misquoted. But I think Delta so far has had at least 4 10/10 episodes, the plot has progressed quickly, and we've had several character arcs. I like what we've already seen and think that is well written. Yes it can go either way and how well it is written overall will obviously depend a lot on the ending. But I'm not feeling these frustrations some people have.
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>>143740969
Yes I can because its the same cliches for 30 years
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>>143741009
Anon you are taking the things I'm typing out of context. I was refering to my own judgement. The one you misinterpreted.

But let's not pretend this is an argument. all you've come to say is the thing you just said:

>its the same cliches for 30 years
It sums up your grievances and stance on the matter perfectly.
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>>143740587

Her desire to sing for peace might be something Roid uses to try to make her the new wind singer. I think there's enough overlap between their goals that she might go that route if he gets a chance to convince her. That could easily be the point where Hayate loses her. Could be a nice parallel to Hikaru-Minmay with Roid being Kaifun.
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>>143740129
Well, from the NUG point of view, Windermere are the Zulu, or the Boers at best, while they are the almighty British Empire.
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>>143741276
>SDF comparing
Anything but this.
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Why did the people have to abandon the ENTIRE PLANET just because that one settlement was displaced by Windermeres and nukes?

I mean, it's a planet. There's whole continents they could have relocated to.
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>>143716423
Column 7 is one of the best.
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>>143740525
>What's even weirder is the fact that even though the say the main triangle is faint, the VA's are spinning the heads of the audience while not giving actual hints to the plot or clue. None of them talk about Mikumo, and if you ask a question about her they just say to watch. I think they are using the love thing as a bait to distract people from the bigger picture.

To add to this >>143740858 post:

I agree. Mikumo plays a a major (potentially huge) role in the story. The last episode did hint at that and she has all the makings of being the "big bad".

They kept her well under wraps and played it of as "shinpi", but she is going to become a huge focus of the show in the future. I don't think she will be evil perse, but like Sara I feel she will instigate events that become the end game.

>>143741276
As painfull as that sounds, it COULD be done with the breadcrums laid down so far. I do feel the status quo has to change a lot for that to happen though. I'm not sure I'd be happy with this though.
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>>143741455
Because the whole planet now is under Windermerian control. Enjoy eating their apples and getting infected by Var.
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>>143741359
It's funny, because it is indeed easy to forget that this is just some backwatter conflict and that the NUG is probably making use of the conflict to further their own agenda while not even being a true part of it.
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>>143741616
Literally nothing wrong with that
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>>143740858
>As last episode hinted she has a much larger role to play and she might turn out to be the "big bad"
I hope that doesn't happen. The short flashback looked more serene and heaven-like than sinister, like she was remembering the "good times" when she had her purpose. Atleast that's my interpretation.

After seeing that part in the latest episode, I'm guessing she's some kind of a protoculture creation that was made to maintain and be the administrator of all their shit in that sector, but the protoculture was destroyed and she was left behind.
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>>143741819
>some kind of a protoculture creation
I had the same feeling but it made me think of the Birdman.
>>143741819
>I hope that doesn't happen. The short flashback looked more serene and heaven-like than sinister.
I like Mikumo so I hope for the same. I still got a bad feeling about it though.
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>>143741455
did you miss the part where they can set up a VAR control zone across 80% of the cluster?
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>>143741616
It's NUNG, not NUG.
New United Nations Government.

Also president of any planet in the sectors is a part of NUNG too because NUNG is distributed type of government.
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>>143741455

The people living there could be completely dependent on the Macross city, the rest of the planet might be unsettled.
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>>143742123
So where are they going now? Did they become the new immigration fleet searching for an empty planet to make it their new home?
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>>143742281
Unknown where they're going. But they got a new sponsor via lady M and they're next priority was finding somewhere to drop the refugees off. Reminds me of the first Macross in a way. I'm assuming they're going somewhere just outside the cluster that has an atmosphere and presumably, an existing colony
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>>143742153
Interesting thought, anyone have any guess as to how cases like Ragna are governed where colonists actually land but there's also a native population? Are there parallel governments springing from the colonists and the natives, do they attempt to integrate the two into a single system? If there's more than one are there multiple member states on the planet?
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I still don't understand why people cannot understand to sepperate NUNG and NUNS. NUNG is a decentralized government, meaning that earth has no central power anymore. NUNS however is a different story, and does have a centralized command. Why is this hard for many to grasp I'll never know.
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>>143732135
They are stated that can breed with humans by the official guide. MICHEL is part human, part zent and part zolan, same with Klan. That fucked up their micro-macro thing.
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>>143735235
Reminds me to Sayonara scene with Alto and Sheryl.
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>>143741276
But for that Roid and Freyja would need to interact more. I think, though, that Freyja getting kidnapped is almost a sure thing. Or maybe she will try to return to Windermere to investigate with the rest of Delta and Walkure.
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>>143737245
She's being sold as a "main character"? Where? Just because she's part of the main triangle doesn't mean she's stands with Hayate's and Freyja's as protagonist. She's never been introduced as that.
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>>143738928
>From the art work to the OP it's always been a Freya-Hayate-Mirage trianglemacross thing.

The ending is all about Freyja and Hayate, and most of the merch ignores Mirage unless they need her around for the triangle.
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>>143739716
Because NUNS approve what Windies are doing retard. They are using their actions to test run experiments for them. Windies will realize their bullshit was all manipulated by NUNS and join CHAOS to nuked those guys.
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>>143743184
Mirage has tons of merch, stop lying to yourself.
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Why soo much hate around this thread? Why can't we just enjoy the show and accept what others like.
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>>143743292
I dunno. Some people are frustrated. Some people are frustrated at the frustrated people venting.

I'm just enjoying the ride.
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>>143740047
Mirage doesn't need Hayate to develop, what the fuck are you talking about? While the story as hinted by the ending is about Hayate and Freyja team. Hayate's journey to measure up to Freyja as her equal. Mirage is an extra who is witnessing this happening.
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>>143743292
wheredoyouthinkyouare.tar.gz
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>>143743292
I have been doing just that. But no matter what I post or no matter how well I try to base a conclusion on arguments, shit posters and shippers jump me and tell me how wrong I am.

And then there are people like >>143743386
who seem to take that kind of behavior for granted and who think that this is the proper board culture.

A normal discussion is impossible on /a/
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>[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_14_[5D8A9FB4]
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>>143743107
>Where?
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>>143743618
why u do that?
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>>143743107
Have you seen the main official poster of delta?
http://macross.jp/
You're confusing merchandise (and Mirage barely gets any) and marketing (when advertising anime itself Mirage is almost always there).

>>143743237
>They are using their actions to test run experiments for them.
>Windies will realize their bullshit was all manipulated by NUNS and join CHAOS to nuked those guys.
The transition from 1st sentence to 2nd is so stupid it hurts. NUNS indeed use this situation for their researches. But how exactly did NUNS manipulate Windermere into declaring new war? The last episode explicitly stated that NUNS didn't want this war at all. They are just making best of this situation.
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>>143740587
Are you plain retarded? Minmay's and Ranka's storyarc are the opposite to Freyja's. For one Ranka's "love" for Alto was unreal, she didn't even ask shit about the guy until episode 21 while Freyja, just like Sheryl, was interested to talk about his life and dreams since the beginning. Minmay never loved Hikaru and just used him as an emotional crutch, if she had loved him, she would have won that. Misa was a silver medal given as compesation for this.

Freyja already HAD this storyline you fucking idiot, it was resolved in episode 8 after episodes of wondering about her people, of being called a traitor and nearly executed for it, and the reason why she sang for. Only after her storyline as songtress ended, her romantic storyline with Hayate opened (the exact episode after it). Delta story is about a pilot and a singer resonating with each others, not about two pilots learning to fly together. There's a whole FUCKING ENDING that's pushing Hayate/Freyja endgame because on this. Mirage meanwhile is given the loser role of "observer who watches this happen" like Zessica.
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>>143743618
I actually fucking checked.
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Nips keep comparing Bogue to Gavil but to me he's in essence Gigil in the body of a pretty boy.
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>>143743625
>>143743716

Yes, that shows her as part of the main triangle. Newtype magazines call MCs to Hayate and Freyja, not Mirage. Are you seriously implying she has the same importance as Freyja? Because you're deluding yourselves at this point.

There are three main posters: one with the windmemes, one with Walkure, and that one.
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>>143743491
Or you can just ignore any discussion you don't like. Hide one post and it will automatically hide all replies to it (if you have this option enabled).
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>>143743819
>Newtype magazines call MCs to Hayate and Freyja, not Mirage
That was a mistranslation or an anon pulling this out of his ass, I don't remember exactly but no Newtype magazine actually said that.
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>>143743491
>who seem to take that kind of behavior for granted and who think that this is the proper board culture.

There's just no point in expecting better from /a/, at least not in something like the Delta threads where there's a constant thread kept running regardless of if people have anything to discuss or not. It has nothing to do with what is or isn't "proper" it's simply an acknowledgement of the way things are.
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>>143743819
Advertising =/= actual product. More news at 11.
She is not main character, but she was and still is advertised as one. That's what everyone is saying for the last few hours. False/misleading advertising, it happens all the time.
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>>143743716
>But how exactly did NUNS manipulate Windermere into declaring new war?

Oh geez, maybe by bombing Windermere, destroying their ruins, opening a hole in the planet and then telling everyone in the Cluster it was the Windermere people who did that to themselves? That kind of thing would push anyone to start a war of aggression to kick them out. They are the instigators who took advantage of the Windermere's rightful upsets to make them do their dirty job.

They could have always contacted Roid and sweet talk him about being acknowledged in exchange to run this for them. He's the one stating that they would negotiate with them.
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>>143743831
>>143743885
I'd just like to have a normal and constructive argument on here for a change.
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>>143743938
>That kind of thing would push anyone to start a war of aggression to kick them out.

They already kicked them out. They are now forcibly conquering their neighbors who are content as member states of NUNG. There is really no blaming the second war on anyone but the Windmereans with the information we currently have.
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>>143743876
There's a whole magazine with Freyja and Hayate picture that states the show is about the trials and tribulations of Hayate and Freyja as they push forward despite their difficulties. Miragewho isn't even accounted.

>>143743903
She was never advertised as anything more than a triangle member, she's an important character but she's not on the level of Freyja or Hayate. She's still more important than Mikumo.
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>>143743716
>maybe by bombing Windermere, destroying their ruins, opening a hole in the planet and then telling everyone in the Cluster it was the Windermere people who did that to themselves
Source on any of that? Oh right, it's your ass.

>That kind of thing would push anyone to start a war of aggression to kick them out.
Actually no. Even if it's true (highly unlikely) It's a sign of windermerian butthurt and immaturity. Civilized people would call for independent investigation on events which happened during the war.
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>>143744053
I don't think you understand shit as geopolitics. NUNG forced an embargo on them for doing something they did and lied about it. They are limited their trade with their neightbors and stationed on them.

They won't be living peacefully until those backstabbing assholes leave the cluster.
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>>143743903
>That's what everyone is saying for the last few hours
It's amazing that even though you managed to dumb the message down to that one short sentence other anons are still not understanding it.
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>>143744216
>Source on any of that? Oh right, it's your ass.

The last episode, retard.

>Civilized people would call for independent investigation on events which happened during the war.

Yeah sure, because everyone was willing to believe them, right?
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>>143744216
The last episode is painting NUNG as the final villain who is behind everything, including how the Windermere are attacking. Windermere was puppets thinking they are off the puppeteers' strings. They were right about NUNG, though.
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>>143744310
>The last episode, retard.
EOP, I assume? gg subs should be available in 5-6 hours, just wait a little. NUNS were researching protoculture tech and making some fold jamming shit 7 years ago. But it doesn't say anything about them bombing Windermere/ruins. It's still a mystery what exactly happened there.

>because everyone was willing to believe them
That's what independent investigations are for. The galaxy is huge, I'm sure there would be lots people interested in finding the truth.

>>143744383
>is painting NUNG as the final villain who is behind everything,
Just like Roid was the main villain for the first 10 episodes. They are clearly shady, but it could be another bait.
And I'm amazed that people always forget about existence of Epsilon group.
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>>143744216
>highly unlikely
Pay attention next time.
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>>143744216
Did you watch the last episode? Even without the subs and not understanding Japanese, the guy from the NUNS and his bosses are officially painted as big bads with secret council of ominous lighting, darkening colors and sinister whispering.

That and Keith's VA already stated the second part will go in a different direction from the first cour. Real "story" starts now so be ready for the changes. The Windermere fight was obviously a bait warm up subplot to open the role to Evil NUNG Guys as antagonists that are behind the scenes.
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>>143744611
>But it doesn't say anything about them bombing Windermere/ruins.

Yes, they were researching that in middle of an independent war. And in ruins that no longer exist. Do they need to spell it out to you to stop being a drooling retard? These are cartoons villains tier in presentation.
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>>143744611
Epsilon will be clearly working for those NUNG guys. And Roid is their Windermere contact. Roid is still shady. While Keith features in the ending with Mikumo. He'll awake and find out Roid sold them out and they have done as NUNG expected them and fucked off there.
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>>143743793
He's not Gigil until he sings Walkure's song before they do.
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>>143744802
>Roid
>shady
Just because a man has long silver/white hair doesn't mean he's automatically shady
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>>143744695
>are officially painted as big bads with secret council of ominous lighting
Yes, just like Roid was very ominous for the first 10 episode. You can't trust this shit.
Wait... I think I already said it just 2 posts ago.

>>143744744
>And in ruins that no longer exist
I could make at least one hundred theories to explain this outcome and they all would be equally possible considering lack of known facts. We are not even sure that there were ruins in the first place. Windermere might just have a ship instead of ruins since all other planets do not have ship.

Also, it's fucking NUNS, not NUNG.
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>>143744611
>the guy who kept saving Walkure's bacon everytime the Knights were getting the upper hand by calling them off to return to base
>main villain
???
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>>143745024
Roid never came across as shady. He's come across as the least warlike of the windermereans, someone who isn't all up in wanting vengeance and actually thinking of the future.
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>>143745034
Did you join these threads only after episode 11?
>He is recalling Knights only because he is interested in Walkure. It's a clear sign he is evil and plotting something etc etc
Shit like that was posted all the time.
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Video compilations we need:

Hayate: Freyja!
Mirage: Hayate!

Hayate: Freyja!
Freyja: Hayate!
Hayate: Freyjaaaaa!!!

Freyja: *says something*
Hayate: *responds*
Mirage: *gasps in jealousy*
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>>143743938
>>143744254
>Sieg Zeon
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>>143745102
Seriosuly? Did you all forget chapter 1 of Knights manga when Keith couldn't feel Roid's emotions trough rune? Everyone was calling Roid the final boss after that for a while.
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>>143744254
>economic sanctions justify a war of aggression

How's that Greater Brisingr Globular Cluster Co-Prosperity Sphere coming along Tojo?
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>>143745024
>We are not even sure that there were ruins in the first place
Read the manga.
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>>143745424
Because it's also stated in anime that Roid was the one finding the ship. The ruins could be the ship. Maybe Roid just didn't know at the time it's not a building but a spaceship.
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>>143745102
>His impeccable poker face
>Those constant attempts to stall Windemere's plans while claiming it was for Heinz's sake
>That interested response when Freyja's song brought down the barrier
>The suspicious death of the king followed by Roid assuming command
He's definitely up to something.
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>>143744254
>tojo did nuffin wrong
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Wait, let's assume that NUNS fucked up with ruins on Windermere and it caused huge explosion ruining everything. Then why would NUNS officer nuke ruins on Ragna if he knew about possible effect? Even if he was evil he would be still caught up in a huge explosion. But it was normal nuclear explosion without dimension eating stuff. Crater on Ragna was pretty small and without purple lightning.

The other obvious theory is that NUNS didn't blow ruins up on Windermere, but just fucked up some experiment inside of them. Still if they knew about possible terrific damage ruins can cause why would they nuke them on Ragna? Once again officer would be caught up in explosion.

Also I have no idea why I am trying to imply here.
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>>143746229
Fighting the Windermere propaganda. Carry on.
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>>143746229
They didn't drop the same kind of bomb that was dropped on Windermere. I think last episode rules out NUNS bombing the ruins, maybe. Or maybe they did bomb the ruins but with a MDE instead of a thermonuclear one. And there's always the possibility of a third party pulling the strings but as of this episode NUNS looks more evil than Epsilon.
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>>143746686
>NUNS looks more evil than Epsilon
I think it's a bait. What's even the point of introducing Epsilon in this show if they are not the bad guys? Is it just to explain how Windermerians got all the technology and weapons even though they are under embargo? They could explain it though lots of other means without involving another party.
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>>143718522
Mikumo is jellyfish mirage
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>>143726885
Lady M- Wotan
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>>143746866
Yeah, that keeps bugging me. For now I can't really defend NUNS but I wouldn't be surprised if that bomb wasn't dropped by them after all but by Epsilon.
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>>143747170
>For now
Even if they didn't drop the bomb 7 years ago they still nuked Ragna. They are scum, anon.
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>>143727590
Mikumo.
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>>143747254
I know, anon. Besides, neither Keith's manga nor Arad, Ernest or Mirage protray them in a positive way.

This could end with two bad guys like Frontier had. My guess is that Windermere is special on its own after all and NUNS didn't want to let it go for that reason just like Epsilon is now "helping" them.
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Why can't the NUNS be amoral assholes without also being snakey slimey "nobody could ever have liked my people skills enough to promote me to this rank" bastards about it?
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>>143747761
even with them being overtly slimey snakes is still not enough for some people to take the hint. Let that sink in, for a bit.
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subs when
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>>143748430
If not in the next 2-3 hours then only tomorrow.

At least we got this delay after episode 14 and not after 13.
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>>143747170
Has there ever been a member of NUNS above the rank of captain who was portrayed in a positive light?
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>>143748753
But what about being truly evil?
Well, there was Leon, but he went rogue and in the end of TV was arrested by NUNS.
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>>143748365
>>143747761
I'm surprised hey're still in power, considering people are watching the same shows in-universe I'm surprised we don't see them complain about NUNS/NUNG too often
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>>143748823
Consider how much US media portrays government elements as the villain. Despite that people with serious anti-government tendencies are a small minority. No reason to think it's not the same thing.
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>>143748823
There's no problem with NUNG anymore. They're decentralized. NUNS is a bit different, but we don't exactly know how they work either. I mean, the NUNS forces in frontier were all under the command of the president it seemed
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RECLAIM WINDERMERIAN CLAY!
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>>143728410
Reirei~ Kawaii
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>>143749594
FOR NUNS!
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>>143749594
>In Tomino's latest work the Antagonists wanted to reclaim the ground
>In Kawamori's they want to reclaim the sky
It's like poetry
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>>143750387
Now who is going to claim the sea?
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>>143750513
Anno
>Red ocean in rebuilds is actually LCL
>in 4.0 they'll rebuild humanity by reclaiming the ocean

Thus the trinity is complete
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Which one's the current wings.io room? The one posted earlier is full of weird people.
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Mirage is a faggot
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Damn. I'm really hyped and excited to listen to this new ED but i'm waiting until subs ;_;
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>>143751073
Subs never
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>>143751003
But Reina is already taken.
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I finally discovered the secret to getting good at wings, you just remove the worst song from Walküre Attack from your playlist
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I was looking at the translation for the last few pages of chapter 3 of the Keith side story, and it looks like there was a translation mistake. Earnest isn't saying, "Do you really intend for New United Nations Spacy to get away completely with their goal."
He's asking Gramia if he really intends to let the NUNS take away Windemeria's main fighting force.
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>>143738097
See the thing here is that Mirage isn't a singer so she literally by all intents and purposes cannot get that kind of focus. Hell, this isn't even the first time this has happened. Look at Zero with Mao and compare that with Sara's screentime. It's practically nothing. And when you look at 7 it's different because the main character is the main singer and the main pilot so the other end of the triangle, Gamlin, can get slight focus as well because he is also a pilot (This is why Mylene came out as the least developed of the three).

I think that if you want to have a truly marketable triangle in this franchise again, both entries have to be singers, the thing is that that would be essentially rehashing a previous major plot element, something Kawamori doesn't like to do
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>>143751941
That goal was to clear 2nd lt Immelman of charges of making some windnigger girl beeng happy
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>>143747761
>without also being snakey slimey "nobody could ever have liked my people skills enough to promote me to this rank" bastards about it?
There is literally nothing wrong with obvious bastard villains
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WHAT THE FUCK MORE DID YOU HAVE TO DO AFTER AX!?

I GAVE AN EXTRA DAY BECAUSE JULY 4 AND MOST OF THEM WERE PROBABLY ON THEIR WAY HOME BUT LET'S BE REAL HERE
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>>143738928
You are the one that isn't paying attention. The sponsors wanted a triangle an Kawamori give them one but he does not give a fuck about it, he is clearly showing his preference for Mirage and turned Freyja into Zessica 2.0
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>>143752274
ok
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>>143751941
oh. Well mistakes happen I guess. Good to know though
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>>143752063
I mean the point was that Earnest was saying that the NUNS wanted to create a situation where Windermeria was left defenseless. The engagement with rogue Zentradi is probably a farce.
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>>143752266
everyone is only just leaving AX today
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>>143752474
Why don't you put your trip, Jaka? We all know it's you. Are you afraid of our wrath?
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>>143752342
Fucking assholes. NUNS genocide when?
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>>143752782
jaka wasnt even rooming with us. he was at the ritz because we're not worthy or something.
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>>143752266
AX ran from Saturday to Monday this year.
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... I didn't want to be that person but I'm just gonna silently point out something from the ED that Mirage fans will not like bc I'm so sick of how delusional you all sound (and frankly idgaf)

When Hayate starts flying, Freyja and him share the same shot for about 8 seconds, then Freyja starts to fade. Mirage's face begins to appear. But as soon as Freyja fades, Hayate begins to fade as well. Hayate shares a grand total of 1 second with Mirage's drawings, except that he is "fading". After that one second, Mirage is fully in view and is waving goodbye after Hayate disappears behind Freyja.

Take that however you want. But my interpretation is that once Freyja "leaves" Hayate starts to "leave/chase after her" while Mirage is left saying goodbye and looking at where they were.

I'll post pictures of it when I get home.
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>>143753629
>is sick of "delusional" Miragefags
>is a delusional Freyjashitter
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>>143753662
Take it however you want. I don't care. I'm here for the jellyfish queen *shrugs *
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SUBS FUCKING WHEN
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If this is how it is with the pale triangle romantic shitposting I'm severely regretting not being here for the Sheryl vs Ranka one. I thrive on reading ship drama. Keeps my skin moisturized and healthy.
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>>143753983
He's probably looking at us and laughing his ass off at this point.
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>>143754075
you could always check ancient records
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>>143753629
The ending has been analyzed to death already, you've contributed nothing new just further shitposting.
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>>143754075
>I'm severely regretting not being here for the Sheryl vs Ranka one

You should be. Part of the animosity going on here is left over from Frontier eight fucking years ago.
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>>143745143
FUCK, I want this so hard, someone please make it.
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The journey to end war using songs instead of weapons which I depicted in “The Super Dimension Fortress MACROSS,” the mind control and AI losing control which I depicted in “MACROSS Plus,” the relation between human and destiny which I depicted in “The Vision of Escaflowne,” the tie between heart, body and soul which I depicted in “Aquarion” series, and the aggregate of life form and the emotional link with the earth which I depicted in “MACROSS Frontier”...
When I worked on these works, the depicted themes were pies in the air, but now they have gradually become realty in realistic shapes.
AI has been widely used in our daily life, and autonomous cars will become more common in a few years. Humanoid robots are not rare anymore, and prolonging life by using biotechnology is no longer a pipe dream.
The boundary between developed technologies and human beings is becoming obscure, and the time when we have to seek the meaning of mankind’s existence is coming before long.
What are Human Beings—?
Joy, Anger, Sorrow, Feeling, and Love. What is the power of “Emotion” that distinguishes human and machines?
What I want to depict in this work is the potential humans have. The rapid biological evolution, just like “Cambrian Explosion,” is caused by one incident. This incident turns into the genesis of a new jostle for supremacy. The influence of the evolution goes beyond biological framework and spreads to various kinds of materials and technologies. The era of massive evolution involving diverse existences, such as human, machines and biotechnologies, is coming.
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>>143755712
Who is going to survive? Human, or other existence—
The main characters who are forced to be involved with a war for existence of species grope for ways to survive by crossing the boundaries of differences in ideas and species. Since they live in such a hard time, the real potential humans have might reveal. I want to pin such hope in the story.
Organic compounds and inorganic compounds, light and darkness, life and death… The intersection of two completely opposite elements often prompts signs of new potentials. I am going to challenge to create a piece of entertainment that no one has ever seen by combining the “coolest” forefront technologies and the drive of human’s burning souls, just like how the species evolved.
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>>143752266
Don't worry I'll blow him so we can get subs faster. Taking one 4 dah team
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>>143755751
>I am going to challenge to create a piece of entertainment that no one has ever seen by combining the “coolest” forefront technologies and the drive of human’s burning souls, just like how the species evolved.
Why do people still give him money for anything but Macross?
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>>143755899
Don't lie to us. You just wants GG's d
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I think I'm starting to like Beginner now
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>>143753629
>>143753789
>idgaf
>* shrugs *
Is this what they call falseflagging?
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>>143754075
Sheryl vs Ranka was bloody and dangerous on both sides of the sea. Trust me, it may sound entertaining but it was basically two factions of fans getting mad at every second of the show for one side or another.
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>>143756144
I think that sounds pretty cool

I mean it's not like he said he was trying to surpass Gundam or create the next GiTS like certain other people
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>>143756847
>like certain other people
he did
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>>143756888
I was talking about A/Z and Guilty Crown respectively
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>>143754590
t. salty miragefag mad that people are rubbing it in
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Remove Windfags.
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>All of this discussion about how Freyja will pull a Minmay so Mirage can get her own spotlight.
Mirage will still get her own arc because she's a main character even she's not important as Freyja. Why would you hope for Freyja leaving because of "MUH FEELING and I'm worry about my peoples." melodrama? She's already have her own decision in episode 8.
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>>143757360
>Mirage will still get her own arc
I hear that every weak for 3 months. Also reminder that next episodes are:
>Ep 15: Parting Resolution
>Ep 16: Hesitant Birthday
>Ep 17: Scattering on Stage
>Ep 18: Sense Emergence
And eps 15-17 definitely don't sound like being related to Mirage.
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>>143752987
As soon as Mikumo chooses Keith as mate and adopts Heinz.

SOON.
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>>143754075
It's a pale triangle because Mirage is exclusively used as a plot device to rile Freyja up.
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>>143757598
>Ep 18: Sense Emergence

May be about her.

Or Chuck.
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>>143757360
Because they are Mirageshitters who are desperate? Freyja wrapped up her entire singing arc before she began to fall in love.
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>>143757360
The Minmay comparison thing doesn't even apply since she isn't cockteasing Hayate
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How much longer are the subs going to take, this is getting ridiculous.
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>>143710932
If I don't get subs today I will actually start learning japanese! that will show them
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>>143757942
Hayate is the one teasing instead. What a fucking slut.
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>>143757817
I hope this happens, the butthurt will be glorious.
>muh shinpi goddess who don't need no man!
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>>143758135
They are so beautiful. Kawas should do it.
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We saw Freyja realizing her feelings, but Mirage's feelings came out nowhere. Is she just a plot device?
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>>143748753
Lt. Gen Kim Kabirov, Colonel Maximilian Jenius, Colonel Aegis Focker.
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>>143758306
Now name ones without any connection to original macross.
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>>143758063
Quit yer bitchin it's not that bad.
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>>143757817
>>143758135
>>143758166
No.
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Rewatching 7 for the first time. Fucking Basara putting Hayate moves on Mylene within the first 10 minutes.
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>>143758306
Assuming naval rather than Army/Air Force captain that's only one example.
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>>143758701
Hayate = Part-Basara, part Gamlin
Freyja = Part-Basara, part Mylenne
Mirage = Part-Gamlin, part Mylenne
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>>143759199
That's actually so fucking accurate it's not even funny.
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I just find it funny that Mirage fags are depending on Freyja having to be out of the picture for Mirage to actually have a chance. That's just sad. At what point did you guys realize that you just can't win if Freyja is there so now you're crossing fingers so she leaves?
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>>143759199
Messer = Physica + Gamlin
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>>143760199
>>143760199
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I still laugh at MW debating on the competency of Johnson/Chaod and weather Valan was just doing his job fighting against Windermerean. Can people be this dense? They dont like NUNs being portrayed as villains
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