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ITT: MCs who had sex.

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ITT: MCs who had sex.
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>>143709535

Show me where in the anime or light novel it is implied Araragi had sex.
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The RElife guy
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>>143709535
But I thought we all agreed that it was rape.
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>>143709597
Oh boy, here we go again.
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>>143709597
anon
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>>143709608
>nep

NEED PROOFS NOW
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>>143709731
Don't worry, lesbian sex doesn't count. She's still a virgin.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuyYc0gINbU

This was playing when Guts lost his cherry
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The dude from requiem for phantom
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>>143709830
anon
he lost that a loooong time before he met Casca
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>>143709775
okay thank god
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>>143710016
If I watch this will I become more depressed?
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Crab is objectively worst girl.
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>>143709597
Tsukimonogatari.
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>>143710049
Not particularly
Aside from the design of the MC it has nothing special going for it though
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>>143710049
No, it's an incredibly enjoyable and well made anime. Nothing depressing or sad about it
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>>143710016
Kumiko!
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>>143709830
this OST seems nice. Im gonna watch this movie.
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>>143709933
he fucked the loli
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>>143709535
mankoto.jpg
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>>143710067
Crab is objectively best girl.
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>>143709639
Surprisingly enough
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>>143712041
Crab is boring and autistic.
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>25 replies
>still not the best
Let me fix that.
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>>143712106
Alright, I'll admit that she only takes second place.
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>>143709535
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>>143709710
maybe she wanted him to walk her home gently
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>>143709535
pic not related.
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>>143709535
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>>143711437
A real motherfucker.
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>>143709639
I wouldn't call rubbing his vagina against his yandere girlfriend's as sex.
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>>143711842
Precisely. This is exactly why all lesbos need to be dicked straight before all hope is lost. Luckily we have the most powerful force in the universe on our side.
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But seriously the thought of goku hacing sex seems really foreign to me I can't even imagine it.
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>>143712676
Chi Chi did all the work. She probably promised him dinner afterwards if he just lie on his back for twenty minutes
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I don't get it, all these characters just walked each other home gently, what's that got to do with sex?
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>>143712493
>>143709710
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>>143712534
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>>143709535
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>>143710049
No, it you might start feeling lesbianism
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>>143712731
he was lying
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>>143712572
>motherfucker
Someone has to teach the youth. Does rape count?
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>>143712874
No, he wasn't
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>>143712888
she's not a MC
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>>143712806
that's cheating
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>>143712920
Ah, sorry. Went off track.
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>>143712888
where's the buldge
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>>143709710
Not the guy you're talking to, but he's right.

You're looking at this from a normalfag point of view. Someone who's familiar with anime on the other hand knows that this exact line is used in the sense of a parody fairly often. Also, what I find interesting is that the same people who vehemently defend that it is 'implied' that Araragi had sex with Senjougahara are also very opposed to the idea that Araragi had sex with Karen, which is 'implied' just as much, but denied by these people due to "gross", her being "his sister", etc.

tl;dr - normalfags being normalfags
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>>143712888

I've never actually seen this without the dick.
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>>143712990
Also, it should be mentioned that we see Araragi wake up in his own bed the next morning.
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>>143709597
It's obvious... /a/ still virgin
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>>143713002
It's strange isn't it
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>>143712874
He had sex with Hitomi, anon.
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>>143712990
Karen keeps offering her virginity even after the toothbrush episode. Same with Monkey in Owari. Also, Snail stopped making fun of Araragi's virginity and Araragi mentions something about "being an adult now"
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>>143712990
just stop baiting faggot, it's no longer funny
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>>143713203
The point in >>143713029 also still stands.

If the author wanted to make a point, he could have had Araragi wake up at Senjougahara's house. That's how sex is usually implied and we've seen plenty of that in anime. He deliberately left it open to interpretation though, so it's not like there was a definitive answer.
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>>143712803
>meme center
anon...
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>>143713067
>They drew female Ranma's chin sharper than male Ranma's

Why
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>>143713258
Damn it looks so different I got confused
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>>143713284
I got that image from here years ago. At least I think I did. I know I've never been to meme center. You lose track after a million pics.
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>>143709710
weve been over this.
the translation is fucked up.

she literally says "take care of me". which can mean pretty much everything besides "i want to fuck you".
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>>143713492
>everything besides
In that situation that's exactly what that means. If they where really just walking home at the time, or just formally declaring the relationship I would agree. But she literally has him push her against a fence and is holding hands. She wanted to fuck and that's what happened. Not sure why people are arguing against it.
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>>143709535
I'm 99% certain
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>>143713571
Senjougahara is just fucking with him like she usually does. Come on anon like 90% of Bake and Nise is just banter dialogue overdubbed on powerpoint slides.
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>>143713645
MODS
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>>143713679
>Senjougahara is just fucking with him
she does a similar thing later on down the series which is pretty much "we have 10 minutes right? Let's bang out a quickie"

You're just going to have to realize they fucked, and fucked regularly.
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>>143712990
>this stale bait
Anon please we've had actual Japanese people talk about this and it's universally accepted to clearly imply sex.
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>>143712990
Araragi and Karen is presented in a completely different manner.
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>>143713818
>YOOOOO
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>>143713781
>Anon please we've had actual Japanese people talk about this
And for what reason would we take their opinions seriously?
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>>143713832
t. normalfag who doesn't like incest and thus dismisses one implication while defending the other based on "muh feelings"
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>>143709710
>the Takumi pic

Gets me every time.
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>>143712888
Somethings missing
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>>143712921
She's unfortunately a virgin, at best she's gotten to first base with the imaginary dead girl from her movie
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>>143714119
you know she has a few toys laying around.
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>>143713278
>he could have had Araragi wake up at Senjougahara's house

Oh yes, the small creaky house where her Dad is, definitely he would stay around to see her dad come in late at night after he just deflowered his daughter
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>>143713645
delete this
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>>143714170
Toys can't take your virginity! Can they...?
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>>143714226
they can for a girl. For a guy you're just losing your anal virginity.
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>>143714270
>they can for a girl
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>>143709597
Not only has he plowed crab, he also plowed his sisters, snail, bat, snake and soon best older girl Kanbaru
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>>143709535
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>>143714183
He could as well have them wake up together at a hotel room or something. The point is: anything but having Araragi come out of HIS OWN room in the morning in his underwear, which is not a good way to imply that he spent the night elsewhere.
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>>143714376
I would say at most he has definitely been lewd with the other girls. Unless you want to count some doujins, then him and monkey have a regular thing going.
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>>143714465
>love hotels aren't a thing in japan

Speaking of, the narrative always makes Araragi's town sound like it should be out in the country somewhere.
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>>143709535

It was pretty vague but I'm pretty sure they imply that he got some. You have to read between the lines.
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>>143713645
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>>143713645
Does Azuma have the balls for an Usagi Drop ending?
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>>143714553
makoto only walked them home gently
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>>143714763

At the very least he got some head.
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>>143714276
Do crabs feel pain?
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>>143713571
>Not sure why people are arguing against it.
Because they can't stand the thought of their pure, virgin waifu getting plowed by Araragi-san.
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>>143714820

Not after you cut off their head.
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>>143714820
umm yes...
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>>143714855
I'm obviously asking if the cutting hurts them
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>>143714829
Don't know why. I think it's cool. It's so rare for an anime to actually follow through with people's relationships. Then again, this is Japan.
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>>143714820
Crabs are pretty much insects, so no.
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In the first episode no less
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>>143714575
really?
really?
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>>143714743
He wouldn't dare.
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>>143714918
I decided to look it up.
Cephilapods feel pain and stress.

Think about it next time you go cutting heads off
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Does it count if you get raped by yourself?
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>>143714829
I dropped Monogatari because he lost his virginity. Can't self-insert into a nonvirgin.
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>>143714918
>Crabs are pretty much insects
>failing highschool bioligy harder than i did
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>>143714518
Japan makes any place that isn't the size of a large city seem like Hickville for some reason
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If any of you remember this
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well, her boyfriend at least.
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The MC with the most game.
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>>143713898
Better than listening to the shitposting of a random anon.
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>>143713938
I like incest but the toothbrush scene was clearly intended as a comedic scene while 'walk me home gently' was completely serious. Not to mention the lead up to that scene was implying sex and of course the entire "Crab had a problem having sex with Araragi due to past trauma, past trauma that was directly dealt with during the arc" thing going on.

Completely different situations.
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This girl
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>Raoh have a son but kenshirou not
So...ken is...Virgin??
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>>143713166
Who?
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>>143715421
but how can we tell if they're shitposting?

>>143715557
Houkago Play newfag
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>>143715490
Again: your argument is based on 'muh feelings'. Implications are not solid evidence.
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>>143715421
Opposed to the rambling of a retarded weeaboo who thinks a Japanese person couldn't be wrong?
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;)
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>>143709535
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>>143715704
Oh look, the same joke twice.

see >>143713645

an learn to read the thread next time
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>>143712995
Thought I was the only one who watched this
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>>143715762
I saw it already
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>>143714893
Yeah, I see it as really sweet, and I bet a lot of others do as well. But some waifufriends just get too attached to 2D girls and become obsessed with the idea of their purity compared to 3D girls. When even their fantasy world goes against their desires, they refuse to accept it.
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>>143715653
what about the ramblings of some purity fag that refuses to accept that two people in a relationship would have casual sex?
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>>143715614
I don't think I ever said anything about solid evidence, just that the implications of Crab and Araragi having sex fit a lot better and make a lot more sense than anything involving him and Karen.

And this is completely ignoring the fact that it was confirmed that Karen and Araragi didn't have sex.
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How pathetic do you have to be to watch anime where the MC has sex with women?
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>>143713258
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EVERY DAY
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>>143713258
I miss the old artstyle so much
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The purest
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>>143716063
Again: this is purely about implications not being solid evidence. I'm merely saying that it is implied that Araragi and Karen had sex. What happens later is something I don't know or care about because I haven't watched anything Monogatari related past the second season because the first two were shit already.

>>143715985
Or maybe I'm just a reasonable person who isn't a shipping normalfag.
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>>143716242
And I'm stating that Araragi and Crab having sex is a much stronger implication than him and Karen.

Not all implications are equal.

Araragi and Karen is lightly implied in a comedic scene (and later confirmed to not have happened)

Araragi and Crab is heavily implied in a serious scene and not only is there no evidence to the contrary, the entire story actually makes less sense if they didn't fuck.

Surely you can see the difference.
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>>143709597
18 months later and this still happens?
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>>143716393
Tomato
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>>143716328
>Araragi and Crab is heavily implied in a serious scene and not only is there no evidence to the contrary
Again: the line chosen is often used in anime to induce misunderstandings in a comedic sense (e.g. to embarrass the main character). Araragi having gotten used to Senjougahara's way with words may have not reacted to it as strongly, but her words should still be treated with care.

And there is >>143713029. We see Araragi wake up at home, leaving his room in his underwear.

If the author wanted to imply that they had sex, he could have shown them together in bed. This is what's usually done - this would be a heavy implication. The fact that he deliberately chose to not 'heavily' imply it makes it not heavily implied.
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>>143714575
If you can't recognize the MC who fucked every girl in his show, just fuck off.
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Look, let's just say Araragi fucked everyone and be done with it.
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>>143714952
If there's no penis involved then you are still a virgin.
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>>143716562
that's what toys are for.
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>>143716188
Was going to post that but I couldn't find the chapter in time, oh well.
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God, this part killed me.
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>>143709535
Rin
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>>143716492
>the line chosen is often used in anime to induce misunderstandings in a comedic sense
Please indicate when this line is used to create comedic misunderstandings in other anime. I've been watching anime for over a decade and I realy can't recall a single time when this has happened. If it's really as common as you're claiming then you'll have no problem coming up with at least a few examples.

>he could have shown them together in bed
That goes beyond "heavy implications" that goes into "confirmed" territory. Just because it's not implied as heavily as you'd like doesn't make it not heavily implied.

You're also ignoring how them having sex makes complete sense within the context of their relationship and Senjougaharas arc as a character. Them not having sex then makes less sense than them having sex.
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>>143716393
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>>143716594
Are you implying that I lost my virginity with my donkey plushie?
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>>143716802
well, if you lost your hymen(implying you're girl) then yes.

What, did you shove it up your vag or something?
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>>143716840
Hymens don't have anything to do with virginity aside from the fact that a large number of virgins have hymens.
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>>143716901
tell that to the donkey
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>>143716703
>I've been watching anime for over a decade and I realy can't recall a single time when this has happened.
A decade is not that much and and you clearly haven't been paying attention then because the expression is common as hell in eromanga and found its way into anime too, often in a comedic sense. I'm certain Hestia said it to Bell in some context in Danmachi to name a recent example, but I'm not going to spend my time looking for the right episode now. Perhaps I'll do it later for a future thread though.

>That goes beyond "heavy implications" that goes into "confirmed" territory.
No, that is still an implication.

>Just because it's not implied as heavily as you'd like doesn't make it not heavily implied.
Yes, it is. Because calling it 'heavily' implied is rhetoric on your side to give your singular opinion credibility that it doesn't have.

>You're also ignoring how them having sex makes complete sense within the context of their relationship
Which is again an opinion based on nothing but your interpretation. It is nothing that is logically implied in a definitive sense.
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>>143716285
He only had sex once.
After Fllay died he was so traumatized him and Lacus didn't even sleep in the same bed.
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>>143716840
>hymen
The hymen have nothing to do with if you are a virgin or not.
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>>143712990
>this thread again
Anon, why do you care so much that they fucked? They did, and that's that. There's nothing more to it.
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>>143717047
>>143716901
How do they not?
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>>143717062
Or maybe they did not. Why do you care so much for everyone to share your shipping fantasies?
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>>143715508
You sunnuva bitch!
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>>143709535
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>>143716537
Why don't people just let this into their hearts?
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>>143715089
As a non-virgin, I'm kinda the opposite. I'm bored of virgin protagonists.

Just let the characters have sex, damn it. There are so many narrative avenues sexual relationships allow in stories, and most of anime is just utterly devoid of the entire design space.
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>>143717090
>shipping fantasies
>they're literally canonically gf and bf
>shipping
>fantasies
sage
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>>143716934
That Hestia and Bell example is in a completely different context and clearly comedic, really not comparable to the scene with Araragi and Crab. It's really not as common as you'd like to think.

We can argue over what "heavily implied" means all night. I'm going to point out that a solid 90+% of the people that watch that scene assume they fucked and leave it at that. If you think you're a special snowflake for thinking otherwise that's fine but don't act like that means anything.

>Senjougahara talks to Araragi about how she can't have sex with him due to past trauma
>Entire lead up to the climax of the Karen Bee arc has Senjougahara mentioning how she's going to deal with her past trauma
>Past trauma is dealt with
>She immediately makes a remark about them sleeping together
>Said past trauma is never again mentioned at all during any point of the series
But surely that doesn't fit into the story right?

If your point is that "Hey there's no 100% definitive proof that they had sex" then I agree with you but at some point you're going to have to accept that a 99% chance is as good as confirmed when it comes to discussion.
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>>143709535
Shinobu should have raped his shota self.
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>>143712534
He fucked every one of his students. Truly a hero.
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>>143717085
Because girls can be born without hymens, hymens can be torn without sex being involved, hymens naturally fade away over time and girls can have sex and not have their hymens broken. Hell hymens can even be restored via surgery.

They are closely related but certainly not 100% related.
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>>143717295
>hymens can be torn without sex being involved

This is why anime is better than real life.
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>>143715289
Right in the feels.
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>>143712534
>>143712816
The luckiest harem owner.
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>>143717330
It happens in 2D too. Not nearly as often but it does happen.
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>>143713645
oh boy, a public banning!
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>>143712770
what? did this happen in the manga? the fuck? last i checked she wasn't even dere for him, just tsuntsun
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>>143717388
What, in shoujoshit?
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>>143717421
>
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>>143717219
>That Hestia and Bell example is in a completely different context and clearly comedic, really not comparable to the scene with Araragi and Crab.
Again: that's your interpretation of the scene.

>I'm going to point out that a solid 90+% of the people that watch that scene assume they fucked and leave it at that.
A percentage pulled straight out of your ass.

>at some point you're going to have to accept that a 99% chance is as good as confirmed
Now it's 99% already? The point is that what you're doing is arbitrarily attribute a likelihood to an extrapolation of your own interpretation of what's happening, which is utterly meaningless and as good as any other interpretation.

In the end, you'll have to live with not everyone sharing your view on that matter. It's not like we can do much about it. When Trump wins the elections, when the day of the rope comes and the degenerates strung up high and the ovens fired up again things might be different, but until then we can only agree to disagree.
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>>143717243
you beat me to it
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>>143717412
Probably, I was talking about hentai though. I've read more than a few where the girl remarks how "She's broken her hymen with toys/through exercise/whatever so the guy doesn't have to be gentle."

And that's not even bringing up all the times when the girl doesn't bleed despite it being her first time.
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>>143714820
No.
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>>143717493
>tfw hes plowing both his daughter and the mother
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>>143717538
well, step-daughter, but yes
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>>143717421
True ;)
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>>143717234
Did she?
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>>143717529
They do faggot
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>>143717482
>which is utterly meaningless and as good as any other interpretation.
That's wrong though, interpretations backed up by solid trains of thought and elements of the story make way more sense and are much more easily accepted than random head canon bullshit people make up out of no where.

You seem to be under the impression that there's either confirmed or implied. Where in reality, the "implied" part is a huge range.
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>>143717649
They can do faggot but they can't feel pain.
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>>143717706
Yes they do, fuck off
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>>143713645
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>>143717745
I don't trust your words.
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>>143717796
You should. He's a crab.
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>MC has sex
Dropped
If I wanted to watch normalfag drivel I'd turn on the television
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>>143709597
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>>143717796
Look it up, they show stress when you hurt them and try to protect themselves afterwards, the indicators of feeling pain.
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This pure creature.
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>>143717657
>You seem to be under the impression that there's either confirmed or implied. Where in reality, the "implied" part is a huge range.
Factually there is either confirmed or implied. In that regard anything that isn't confirmed is possibly by definition. However, there are most certainly heavy and less heavy implications. I've named an example of a heavy implication. A visual hint what they may have had sex that is common in fictional media and was deliberately avoided here, i.e. them waking up together. In fact, we saw Araragi wake up alone at home. What you've been doing however, is attribute 'heavy' meaning to your own interpretations and extrapolative fantasies based on them backed by nothing than what you regard 'common sense' (i.e. plain normalfaggotry).
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>>143717745
>>143717796
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=do+crabs+feel+pain
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>>143717889
I get vegan laced virtue signalling articles. Anyone any different?
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>>143717846
This.
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>>143717647
You tell me.
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>>143717885
>backed by nothing than what you regard 'common sense'
I've given you an extremely easy to follow train of thought completely supported by events in the story and also supported by the fact that there is not a single actual event that would support the "they didn't have sex" argument, I'm not sure how you can possibly consider "Araragi and Senjougahara have had sex" to be anything other than all but confirmed AKA heavily implied.

There are other ways to heavily imply sexual relations other than "Look they woke up in the same bed together" that's amateur shit right there.
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Are you two still arguing? Get a fucking room and just suck each others dicks already jesus.
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>>143718183
I tell you she hadn't.
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>>143718206
To be honest I'm not even sure what we're arguing about anymore. He seems to be quite mad over the fact that most people think Araragi and Crab had sex.
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>>143718186
What you subhuman don't get is that this is not matter of being unable to derive the conclusions, it's a matter of disagreeing with the premises upon which they are built, i.e. what you regard 'common sense'.

>I'm not sure how you can possibly consider "Araragi and Senjougahara have had sex" to be anything other than all but confirmed AKA heavily implied.
It may have something to do with you being a racially inferior retard. I've told you what would be a heavy implication and I've told you that there is evidence to the contrary - most precisely the deliberate choice to not use a heavy implication. But also Araragi waking up alone at home on the next morning, leaving his room in his underwear.
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>>143718295
and don't use me for your fucking argument.


They did fuck though.
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>>143718295
Everything will be okay. Hey, walk him home gently tonight, alright?
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>>143718295
>most people
It says a lot when your argument requires others to agree with you.
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>>143718332
>being this mad

stay pressed jamal
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>>143718408
It says a lot when you can't stop sucking big fat elephant cock.
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>>143718431
>being this told

Looks like you're out of arguments then.
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>>143716537
>thinking doujins are cannon
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>>143718506
Pretty Neighbor is canon. Why can't others?
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>>143718332
>resorting to ad hominem as a last hope

You have gone full meme now.
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>>143718506
Araragi + the girls, always cannon. It's almost happened in the show itself
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>>143716242
>what happens later in the series doesn't matter because I didn't finish it
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>>143716537
See, the essential problem is that you're dealing with shippers here. They ship Araragi and Crab and try to make their headcanon canon, which is why it is so important to them that Araragi had sex with Crab and crab alone. Anything that questions that will be met with fierce resistance.

If you thought the supposed 'purityfags' who don't share their narrative were the crazy ones here you're in for a surprise. It's not like they are the ones starting these threads after all.
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>>143718332
First of all pic related.

Secondly Araragi waking up alone isn't evidence to the contrary. I don't know how you think it is. Like I said there are other ways to heavily imply sex besides "HEY LOOK THEY'RE IN BED TOGETHER GET IT LOL."

It's implied through the actual story, via character development and an entire arc as well as a very clear phrase (that only one person doesn't seem to accept.)

That's decent writing, I'm not sure what our problem with it is.
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>>143718595
If you can't see the argument it's because of your own retardation. The insult merely points out the obvious: that you are a subhuman.

I recommend you to read the first line of the post again and give it a bit more thought. If you then still can't understand it, then we might as well end the argument here because you're incapable of seeing reason.
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>>143709597
How about Shinobu Mail? Gahara literally tells him on the phone "I'll be waiting for you in my birthday suit".
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>>143718609
>Araragi and Crab having sex
Makes sense in the context of the story. Makes less sense that they didn't fuck.

>Araragi and everyone else
Complete head canon not supported by anything else and in some cases explicit confirmed to have not happened.

But surely only shipperfags think they fucked.
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Got CLANGED up the tailpipe
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>>143718332
Jesus christ let it go already faggot. You win you're the most autistic one here.

Nobody gives a shit if Crab or Araragi had sex or not in Nise that's a dead horse..

Because either argument is blown out of the water since they totally fucked in tsuki. And I don't even think crab is best girl, and It's still pretty clear Araragi cheats on her regardless.
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They're also one of the best couples and probably the best team as well.
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>>143718627
>It's implied through the actual story, via character development
Again: that's your own personal interpretation of what's happening.
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>>143718682
That's just your interpretation anon, unless they're shown naked in bed together, it doesn't count.
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>>143718741
That's just your interpretation that those words don't mean they banged, in fact it definitely counts.
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>>143718691
>Makes sense in the context of the story. Makes less sense that they didn't fuck.
Makes sense to you, but not necessarily everyone else because not everyone shares your shipping fantasies.
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>>143715685
>filename
Depends on how you feel about statutory, but more generally, the Othello game they play beforehand foreshadows that she doesn't realize what's going to happen and gets cornered. So arguably yes. Good pic tho
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Two of them had it.
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>>143718736
Yes and why is that a problem? My interpretation makes sense and is generally accepted by the community.

Why does it have to be a specific type of implication to be accepted by you. Being shown in bed together or leaving the others house in the morning still means you have to interpret it as sex because there are plenty of times when that doesn't mean sex.
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>>143718716
>Because either argument is blown out of the water since they totally fucked in tsuki.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with the argument and is otherwise completely unrelated.
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>>143713781
>actual Japanese people
sorry I'm only going to accept the opinion of a verfied sex expert with a doctorate telling me they had sex before I can believe this is true
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>>143718609
There's nothing to ship faggot. That ship already sailed years ago. Why the fuck are you such a stubborn faggot? You fucking mule. Your mother was raped by a fucking hippo you disgusting faggot.
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>>143718797
Yes and no one has ever claimed otherwise.

I actually don't know what your problem is right now.
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>>143718846
>Yes and why is that a problem?
It's not a problem at all, as long as you don't assume that your personal interpretation was the actual truth.

>My interpretation makes sense and is generally accepted by the community.
What 'community'? We're all anonymous here and you have no way to quantify anything definitively. In that regard a numbers argument - as retarded as the attempt is in the first place - isn't going to hold.
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>>143718797
Literally twenty people here think that they banged. you're the only one that doesn't perceive it that way.

Now that this shit fest is over and dealt with, let's debate about whether or not other characters banged or not.

On a somewhat related note 8/10 trolling, you got everybody to reply.
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>all this arguing
Crab rocked Araragis nob. There's nothing to discuss.
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>>143718907
You sound like an angry shipper there who's mad about people questioning his ship.
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>>143718926
Anon I've never once said that Araragi and Crab fucking is actual truth.

All I've ever said is that it's heavily implied. And if that phrase still triggers you, let's just say that it's implied much heavier than any other potential sex act in the series.
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>>143709933
I got mad at that part, it was fucking not necessary and edgy.
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>>143719000
No, not really.
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Guys, I think he thinks he can be the next ebin clueless anon pasta if he keeps arguing.
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>>143719005
said the angry shipper calling others subhuman
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>>143718934
And literal 55 people think they didn't. 59 think you're a faggot. Also, you should consider that anonymous boards make it hard to quantify opinions and that numbers mean very little when it comes to such things in the first place.
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>>143715508
I liked manga more than the anime. Is there everything ok with me, /a/? I feel like day by day, i'm slowly drowning into endlessly deep lake of perversion and degeneracy. And i like it
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>>143719082
He's not even arguing that they didn't fuck.

He's literally spent hours arguing that "It's not implied in the correct way for me to accept people discussing them having sex as if it was fact."
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>>143719008
>let's just say that it's implied much heavier than any other potential sex act in the series.
Which is again your personal opinion on the matter. I'm even agreeing with you that one could see it as an implication, but there are also arguments favouring different points of view neither necessarily 'heavier' than the other. Especially due to the fact that an actual heavy implication was deliberately avoided.
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>>143719096
Maybe you should try not to give it away then.
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>>143719133
I'm arguing that it was deliberately not heavily implied (I'm not questioning the implication itself) which makes different interpretations reasonably viable. That's really all I'm saying.

If the author wanted to make it non-ambiguous he could have done so.
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>>143719232
Despite all the close encounters, I really don't think Rito has fucked anyone yet.

Now, the Tsugumomo guy
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>>143719275
You certainly went full autismo.
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>>143717847
quality
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>>143719119
Pretty sure you're the only one who thinks they didnt fuck, friend. That being said i'm enjoying the arguement you guys are having so continue
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>>143719380
And you certainly went full subhuman.
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>>143719230
>Especially due to the fact that an actual heavy implication was deliberately avoided.
You keep saying this like it's some kind of point or even an accurate statement.

Why do they have to use your specific definition of "heavy implication?" I've already explained to you many, many times how it was implied that they had sex. And your response every time has been "well that's your interpretation" and then you immediately bring up this "Waking up in bed together" implication like it's this golden standard that must be adhered to for implied sex to be counted.

Yet that implication is also "up yo your own interpretation."

If anything in the realm of anime, that isn't even a heavy implication since there are many examples of people waking up in bed together and them not having fucked. It's almost a cliche at this point.
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>>143709597
Also no one mentioned the hentai thatwas released as a exta on the bluray of him fucking main bitch
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>>143719417
What I think is not important. Important is whether my position is sound. And again: numbers don't matter here.
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>>143719275
judging by this thread you gave your best try
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>>143717047
confirmed for microdick
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>>143719232
He's too much of a bitch to have touched anybody.
>>143719417
Somebody better be taking screen shots of this shit.
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>>143719427
And you certainly went full subhuman.
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Sex episode was actually really sweet, too
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>>143719450
>You keep saying this like it's some kind of point or even an accurate statement.
Because it is.

>Why do they have to use your specific definition of "heavy implication?" I've already explained to you many, many times how it was implied that they had sex. And your response every time has been "well that's your interpretation"
Because it is. You essentially tell me how you feel about the characters and what you believe characterises them and why, based on your opinion on these characters, it makes a lot of sense that they had sex.

And while I find all of that really interesting, it's still just a singular point of view to me, as good as any other.

>then you immediately bring up this "Waking up in bed together" implication like it's this golden standard that must be adhered to for implied sex to be counted.
It's an example of a heavy implication - certainly heavier than what you consider a heavy implication, so maybe there's something wrong with your scale?

>Yet that implication is also "up yo your own interpretation."
It is. But you would you agree that it's a heavy implication or are you questioning that?

>If anything in the realm of anime, that isn't even a heavy implication since there are many examples of people waking up in bed together and them not having fucked. It's almost a cliche at this point.
Indeed. And in the same sense one could treat what we were presented in the show.
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>>143719230
I'll probably regret getting in between an autist in the middle of a discussion, but Araragi having sex with crab is heavily implied.

When crab gave him chocolates for Valentine's Day it's implied that they've been fucking for a while.
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>>143719544
It's the 4th, if you arnt already drunk then what are you doing? Drink up friend
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>this thread

Stop baiting that "walk home gently" autist already for fuck's sake
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>>143719652
I've told you earlier that I don't care about what happens later in the series because I never bothered watching past Nisemonogatari. I'm merely questioning whether it was heavily implied at that point or not, what happens later does not concern me and I don't care about it either because it's generic haremshit which some people seem to be under the impression that it was actually good.
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>>143719695
I got work in the morning. And I'm out of drink.
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>>143719735
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>>143719637
At this point all we're arguing about is what "heavy implication" means and I'm over that nonsense.

I'm going to continue to claim that it is heavily implied that they had sex and you can can continue to claim that it was merely just implied.

Good night.
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>>143719355
Did the tsugumomo MC do that? I dropped because there weren't any hard ecchi in the first volume.
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>>143719735
>it ain't me starts playing
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>they didn't have sex
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>>143719802
>I dropped because there weren't any hard ecchi in the first volume.
Boy did you make a mistake.
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>>143718682
>taking bantergahara literally
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>>143719695
We need to be as drunk as our founding fathers on this glorious day
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>>143719799
>I'm going to continue to claim that it is heavily implied that they had sex
And yet you were unable to refute my point that the given example of a 'heavy' implication (e.g. them being seen waking up together) would be a lot 'heavier' than what you regard a 'heavy' implication giving that attribute a whole lot less 'weight'.

Looks like you got told then.
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>>143712620
Would it be masturbation if his hand does it?
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>>143719923
Shippers take everything literally as long as it helps their ship sail.
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>>143719978
it's called The Stranger
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>>143719932
>Looks like you got told then
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>>143719842
he walked her home gently in her own home
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>>143719932
I'll give you one more reply because it's Independence Day.

>And yet you were unable to refute my point that the given example of a 'heavy' implication (e.g. them being seen waking up together) would be a lot 'heavier' than what you regard a 'heavy' implication giving that attribute a whole lot less 'weight'.
I never once said otherwise. Them waking up together is certainly a heavier implication than what actually happened. In fact I'm pretty sure I said this many posts ago. However one implication being heavier than another doesn't make the less heavy one not a heavy implication. And considering the general consensus about what happened in that scene, I think it qualifies as a heavy implication at least according to most people. If that doesn't satisfy your specific definition of "heavy implication" that's on you.

Again at this point we're just arguing semantics and that's just a waste of time. Thanks for the discussion.
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>>143720003
>shippers
Nigga it's a canon couple.
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>>143719917
She literally raped the whole village, who is the real monster?
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>>143718183
I can't believe I forgot about the threesome subtext in that chapter. It must have blended into the background of a final chapter focused on boobs out of nowhere.
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>>143720114
Don't mind him. Shippers take everything literally as long as it helps their ship sail.
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>>143719932
Congrats. Nobody Fucking cares.
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>>143713750
You could have put all the cast too
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>>143712572

Name of mom? Who's mom? What episode/ what VN?
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>>143712572
what kind of fucking lightbulbs are these guys using? Everytime I see a pic of that series it always looks like there's a 1000 watt bulb.
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>>143720093
>However one implication being heavier than another doesn't make the less heavy one not a heavy implication.
Which reduces that attribute to mere rhetoric. If we can agree that there are heavier implications than that, then clearly it's completely valid for someone to not regard it a heavy implication but a moderate or perhaps even light one.

>I think it qualifies as a heavy implication at least according to most people
'most people' is another rhetoric device. We're anonymous here and there's no way to quantify what 'most people' think. Let alone the possibility that 'most people' might as well be wrong.

>If that doesn't satisfy your specific definition of "heavy implication" that's on you.
Or maybe it's on you, due to you calling something 'heavy' to back up your point which comparatively turns out to not be that heavy after all.

>at this point we're just arguing semantics
Not exactly. I'm pointing out that most of what you consider your argument is a singular opinion embedded in rhetoric. I'm stripping it from the latter. With opinions I can live, with people who take theirs too seriously not.
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>>143720280
Not recognizing our glorious lord and savior.
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>>143720254
But OP said MC, anon
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>>143720190
Given that people argued for that long and given that you bothered to reply, you've delivered what I'd regard a heavy implication that some people do care.
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>>143714808
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>>143713029
He's obviously more tired than usual. He may not be allowed to stay at Crab's house because either his parents (or Karen and Tsukihi would tell on him) or Crab's dad doesn't want a boy over.

To me it seems like he probably went home late and slept in or woke up too early for how late he was up. Fucking your gf and then going home later that night isn't exactly a weird or uncommon thing.
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>>143713029
Not during valentines in tsukimonogatari
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>>143714991
This is the same as masturbation
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>>143717243
DELETE THIS
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>>143717243
She should have stayed a loli, she wasn't that cute as an adult
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>>143721058
they probably just did out outside, right then and there
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>>143721274
they sure look like they're having more fun than me
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>>143709535
Somehow
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>>143713645
>archive is down

the mystery remains unsolved.

so what was it
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>>143722688
Where'd her other sock go?
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>>143722688
>mangafox
>>143722817
Look at the replies and take a guess.
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And all of them too.
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>>143709535
Yamcha
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>>143716537
What's happening here?

And why top panel doesn't scream?
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>>143718332
looks like anon here cant fap unless senjogacraba is a virgin in his head-canon.

sorry to disappoint you anon, but its clear as day to most viewers that they fucked.
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Him more than her, tho.
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>>143709535
>>143709710
Friendly reminder that Araragi is only allowed to make love with Hanekawa.
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THIS POST IS A LIE
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>>143722817
yotsuba
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>>143723227
hanekawa is not the best girl though
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>>143712816
>Tfw you could sex Kanako and she'd be totally cool with it
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dropped the show at that point because i couldn't relate to the MC anymore.
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>>143719923
>girl tells her boyfriend they'll fuck
>they totally don't
Jesus Christ, if only I could harness the power of your autism, it'd be enough for an Earth or two.
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>>143718183
>It's even more fun with three people
>you will never experience that
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>>143723884
Just let him live in his own little world where they didn't fuck. They even live together after graduation, but they don't fuck.
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>>143717373
>Right in the feels.

Why? Did she bite the dust?
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>>143712731
Wait, that dream sequence when they were at the love hotel actually happened? Or was it in the light novel?
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Pretty much every character in tsugumomo other than sunao and the high schoolers
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>>143709710
>.jpg
MY FUCKING EYES
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>>143720325
this is the reply you think of
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Makoto Itou
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>>143716159
He got 2 literally perfect girls. Lucky bastard.
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>>143723780
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>>143710067
She's low mid-tier as far as Monogatari girls go, but she's not the worst.
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>>143716214
The thing that always bugs me about this is her gluing his left to her left.

Why not glue it so that it's still easy to walk afterward?
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>Nobody posted Yoh
He impregnated Anna at the age of 14
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>>143720335
>literally 5 hours of autists arguing about whether a cartoon character had sex or not
Even if you think that you're trolling, getting suckered in for that long is a failure.
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>>143716188
>>143716609

I wasn't expecting their relationship to go that far that soon.

nor was I expecting her brother watching them.
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>>143726232

I was more surprised that Hori was the one who initiated it.
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>>143717409
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>>143723893
Why bother even living?
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>>143710067
It's a good thing OP wasn't talking about Crab then

>>143717512
What other series are there where the MC losing his virginity is treated as a power-up? Baki's the only one I can think of
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you know know that keitaro must have plowed her at some point
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>>143709535
With best girl, no less.
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>>143724788
Too bad he won't remember it
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>>143714991

So can we define them as having sex or just making out? Where is the line blurred for lesbians? Putting a finger in?
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>>143717522
hahaha Rin. Way to go Saber.
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>>143725278
Yes she's not the worst girl, I actually like Senjougahara but even she pales in comparison to Shinobu/Kiss-shot. Even more so after reading Kizu.
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>>143719232
he's gotten a blowjob from Momo AT LEAST, although that was in a dream iirc, but it was Momo projecting herself into it so it still counts. he's also done just about everything possible to a girl (read: all of them) short of dicking her, so he's pretty much the foreplay lord if anything.
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This man got the best of both worlds.
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>>143729313
Woah
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>>143712770
>>143717409
She developed some feelings for him, but he's too dense to notice so that never happened. Also, that's not their real daughter.
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>>143715289
Oh, fuck you, that's not funny.
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>>143714820
Yes, that's why you generally freeze them/get them very cold so they are comatose when you either cut their heads off or throw them in boiling water.

If they get stressed, the meat is less enjoyable/less tasty. Similar to how it's best to kill mammals when they're not stressed too (beef, venison etc)
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Gintoki x hasegawa

>>143715605
Poor Giorgio
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>>143717421
>main character
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>>143717412
They mention it in Galko-chan. Girls who ride horses often break theirs.
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>>143709535
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>>143712401
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>>143719932
Casually lurking but then get to this post, you are probably the biggest piece of shit in this thread. Change your ways or enjoy perpetual virginity and failure.
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>>143716609
How awkward must it be to watch your sister get fucked her boyfriend.
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>>143716647
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Haru from Yosuga no Sora along with half the supporting cast.
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>>143731715

It's probably more likely that he just heard them.
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>>143718609

My main issues with fucking crab is what it means.

The resolution isn't 'everything is fixed'. He's going to out live her, he's got a vamp along for the ride and he's never going to settle down. All it did was open her up a little. Their relationship is entertaining to watch but sort of destructive.

She even admits to 'it could have been anyone else if they had helped me'. She's not really in it for the relationship, but the attachment to her 'savior', not a healthy resolution to a 'I almost got raped' storyline.

I agree the scene in question implies 'fuck me' and that they probably did. The iffy stuff comes from how sexual innuendo and banter laden the series is, the fact that every fucking character flirts, some go much further than others that is can blur the line when dealing with this series.

Some people just hate implications because being an implication there's that 50/50, what if, unknown about them where the situation could turn out how ever the author wants because evidence or potential resolutions can be reasoned out to have multiple results.
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>>143723893

Things could be worse: you could run out of ice cream.
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>>143723227
Whats wrong with her tits?
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>>143732903

Femanon detected, your brain's lack of 3D spatial boob visualization gave you up.
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>>143732903
Too small
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soft
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>>143732096

> He's going to outlive her

That's not confirmed, it was only Shinobu musing on what could potentially happen.

> He's never going to settle down

By the most recent point in the LN he's going to university with her, isn't he? Even if he ends up getting involved with exorcist stuff, he understands and values having a 'normal life' enough that he probably wouldn't be an exorcist exclusively as a living like Oshino does.

> It could have been anyone else if they had helped me

She also points out how abnormal Araragi wanting and being able to help her was, and how in pretty much any other circumstance she wouldn't have been cured. She makes it clear that Araragi unquestioningly helping people is one of the major reasons she likes him, and that in people, that trait is pretty fucking rare.

> Their relationship is entertaining to watch but sort of destructive

That's not Araragi and early Cat.

Crab ends up being able to ground Araragi after all of his crazy supernatural shenanigans, it's mainly because of her that he even considered that he would be able to go to university. Whatever Araragi ends up doing, it's clear that Crab is intending to be there to help him through hard times, and as it is, they get along pretty well, so I don't really doubt it.
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>>143710049
If u expect yuri you will try to kill yourself after watching this.
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>>143714276
COULD YOU GO ANY SLOWER?!
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>Hundreds of years later
Araragi, Shinobu and Hachikuji are living together doing cute things; would be sad that the others would eventually die off.

Maybe tsukihi wouldn't since shes a phoenix, and hopefully somehow karen will still be alive .

This is sad to think about
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>>143736262
hachikuji isn't alive
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>>143736262

Araragi isn't confirmed to have a longer lifespan, Shinobu only says that it's a possibility, and as it is, we don't really know how much longer Shinobu wants to live at all.

As for Tsuhiki, she still has a normal human lifespan, it's just that her 'soul' or life essence or whatever you want to call it will be born again as another child, so effectively the identity of Tsuhiki herself would be gone and she's 'dead'

And Karen is just a human so she'd be dead too.
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>>143736301
she's comes back in mayoi hell as a god
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>>143736301
I assume he's talking about after Mayoi Hell when she becomes the new snake shrine goddess
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>>143731439
you are the main character in the anime that is your life anon
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>>143736554
i'm not even the main character in my own life
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>>143732096
What we see in these threads is essentially a clash of aesthetics and values.

Most otaku consider having sex with someone akin to "sealing the deal", quite akin to traditional ideas of marriage; something that is meant to last for life. The idea of casual sex, that one would switch partners at some point, is something which from an aesthetic point of view appals them. And since *Monogatari is neither finished nor properly resolved, given the fact that the main character still gets into sexually loaded situations with other girls, they feel that the point was not yet "right".

On the other side you have normalfags who look at it from a different perspective. They can't relate to chaste characters and are glad that for once there might be a male character in this sort of show who isn't, which leads them to argue so fervently in favour of him having had sex. And just looking at this thread essentially proves that we're dealing with normalfags here (using "virgin" as an insult, citing real life experiences as reference for why certain things have to be a certain way and so on).

Both sides could be right, but neither is willing to see that.
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>>143720335
I just read through all that shit. It's implied they had sex but I don't think they did because araragi is too autistic to take the hint, like someone in this thread.
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>>143736998
I don't know if you've been paying attention but araragi almost always takes the hint
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>>143736998
>araragi
>too autistic to take the hint
Have you not watched the series?
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>>143737585
>kys
Fuck off and die along with your e-celeb trash.
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Damn it's hilarious to see Monogatarifags get all worked up over their shitty self insert MC have sex in a harem. Yes, it's a fucking harem, get over it.
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>>143709639
If only that changed his personality. Nope, he still has a vagina.
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>>143737678
Why would anyone get riled up about some shitty self insert MC fucking someone aside from shitty otakus because "muh purity"?
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>>143737678
butthurt virgin spotted. stay mad pedro
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>>143737894
I dunno, why don't you ask the people in this thread?
>>143737920
Why would I be mad that Monogatari is an awful harem?
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>>143737678
>posts shinji
Your shit taste is just as bad as your shit opinion
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>>143737678
How would otakus self-insert when he's having sex? You're not making any sense.
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>>143738223
they're not inserting into anyone else
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>>143738223
Don't talk to him he's autistic or doesn't know english, or both.
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>>143738223
Otaku have generally no issues with their self-insert having sex, because Araragi was introduced as a friendless loser manlet who was handed vampire powers by the plot. Him acquiring a girlfriend and all that was achieved through the plot and developed together with the audience. It would be a lot different if Araragi was established as someone successful who was having sex from the get-go, under which premise otaku couldn't identify with him any more.
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>>143738361
That doesn't explain posts like this
>>143715089

Stop generalizing.
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>>143738361
are you an otaku?
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>>143738477
You mean obvious trollposts?

The point is that there are a million otaku oriented media out there where the protagonist loses his virginity at some point you retard. It all depends on how it's developed in the narrative.

As long as he's not some successful alpha dude from the very beginning, losers will be able to identify with him.
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>>143737678
>>143737894
>>143738223
>>143738361
>self-insert

I hate it when illiterate faggots like these misuse terms. Fuck off back to fanfiction.net with your garbage tier buzzwords.
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>>143738764
>mad at people calling out garbage writing for what it is
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>>143738650
And you're still generalizing. Plenty of losers self-insert into alpha MCs. Are people really that simple?
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>>143739126
>Plenty of losers self-insert into alpha MCs.
Not nearly as common proven by the fact that alpha MCs aren't as common. Especially if we're talking about male oriented romance.
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>>143739174
>Not nearly as common
It's common as fuck. See the amount of losers that self-insert into Don Draper and Tony Soprano on /tv/.
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>>143712572
This from the School Days anime or one of the ____ Days VN's?
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>>143739262
don draper is a beta faggot who was intimidated by joan and tony was a momma's boy. they're beta as fuck
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>>143739262
I have no idea who these people are and I don't browse /tv/. You should probably go back there.
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>>143739262
Get out.
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>>143739265
http://webmshare.com/play/WNZaD
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>>143739323
>>143739331
>insecure weebs getting mad when proven wrong

Typical.
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>>143739426
>That sound when he nuts inside her.
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>>143739456
Don't be so proud crossborderkun, we are discussing anime and manga characters not the godfather or whatever normalfags watch these days.
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>>143739262
Don is not Weiner's self-insert. That would probably be Ken Cosgrove. As for The Sopranos, I have no idea, maybe Melfi's husband?. Also, It's obvious that Nisio's self-inserts are the exorcists so I don't know why people keep calling Araragi a self-insert
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>>143739456
>Proven wrong
About what?

Jesus get out, what >>143739174 try to say was that self inserting is common, but usually is more common when the MC isn't alpha, besides you brought up /tv shit, get out.
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>>143739506
The sound of pure joy.
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>>143737844
When the fuck did she fuck?
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>>143719458
Wat
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>>143729313
The hell? What chapter does this happen?
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>>143740388
97
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>>143739815
Actually I can't think in anyone as virgin as him.
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I feel sad
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>>143717493
for a reason I wanted him to choose the queen instead of lotte.
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>Kamina died a hopeless virgin.
>Simon, and Yoko will probably die of old age before they get laid.
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>>143742680
Post more, how do they end up?
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>>143714864
no
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I´m sure that Anonymous is not a virgin. He looks so manly when he posts
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>>143709535
I have not seen his penis entering her vagoo so the have not had sex.
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>>143712990
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>>143717295
>Hell hymens can even be restored via surgery.
So i can't even be certain me waifu is a virgin by checking her hymen?
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>>143719917


>>143720124
?
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>>143719917
She's a straight up bitch in the novel
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>>143719917
When?
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>>143723135
if you look closely, you can find the D
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>>143741948
Last I heard WoG was that Simon and Nia had sex during the time-skip
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>>143744431
Nia's too retarded for that. Atleast before the proposal and by then it's already too late.
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>>143735410
Good post
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>>143736671
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>>143731727
Yeah, no.
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>>143742756
Not that guy but-
That's literally the second page before the mango ends- (The farthest they've gotten is a kiss and multiple lewd situations)
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>>143709535
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>>143744108
A lot of people are bitches in the novel. At least she finishes properly.
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>>143712572
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>>143713818
I didn't expect pico to be such a bottom.
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>>143744108
I dislike asking these questions since they may make me biased before I try it myself, but is it worth buying and reading?

I heard it got awards for Japanese SciFi.
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>>143712990
>disagreeing with an established meme
epic fail
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>>143713203
>Also, Snail stopped making fun of Araragi's virginity
How can snail making fun of Araragi's virginity be considered a recurring gag? Why would she know about Araragi's sex life to begin with?

>Araragi mentions something about "being an adult now"
[citation needed]

Not saying it doesn't exist, but your quote completely lacks context. Araragi is "becoming an adult" in a lot of ways in Monogatari.
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>>143743251
Did all of them get the fuk?
I though it was only sister and pervert.
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>>143745261
Of course
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>>143735410
Regarding the whole outliving thing, I actually have a suspicion that Shinobu might give up the rest of her power/whatever for 'gahaga at the end of the series.
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>>143736825
I don't think that's confined to anime or otaku. It's more of a common element in fiction in general. People don't wait for marriage to have sex anymore, but sex between two people who care about each other is seen as a step forward in a relationship that will eventually end in marriage.

Basically, sex is generally either a +1 relationship, or a casual "one night stand" style hookup which ain't likely to occur between characters already in a relationship. A sexual encounter between two people who are already friends, or in a questionable "will they or won't they" situation is likely to lead to some drama and decision making, again likely leading to a relationship upgrade.
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