While the Berserk movies are still an abomination, looking back

Studio overpromised, underdelivered and its too late to cancel it. Maybe they'll fix things when bd's come out and it'll sell merch regardless.

>>143682737
>they were doing the CGI right
No. They were doing it better, not right.

Movies had some traditional animated parts which actually looked decent sometimes, but direction and all of it was pretty much soulless + terrible CGI.

Only that old slideshow had some of manga atmosphere.

This new series is just pure diarrhea in every way, I only wait for that one Susumu Hirasawa song which will be out later.

>>143682961
>>143682737
I think the CGI in the movies is underrated.
CGI in anime will almost always look jarring and uncanny if it's not incredibly well done (it's easier if they do mecha)
https://youtu.be/n55QVlBoDxI?t=115
Camera angles and cinematography certainly helps in making the action look cooler. Take the tower scene when they rescue Griffith as an example, looks great.

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>>143682737
>they were doing the CGI right
Nah that would be Square Enix.

>>143683237
Dont people just go "that looks fake and unrealistic and shitty" when they watch that. Is it purely aimed at kids?

>>143683237
Berserk would be completely shit if it was animated like this. The stylistic designs in the movies was literally fine, the GCI was subtle enough that it didn't scream for attention like a retarded ADHD child. The new series is soulless bullshit purely designed in a way that detracts from the substance of the plot to show off how amazing and futuristic the animation is, despite being complete shit.

The movies really show their good point when made into a proper MAD video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J_YRkOaSpQ

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>>143683256
Well the series is called "Final Fantasy" so it's kind of dumb for anyone to expect it to be realistic.

>>143683343
pretty sure he's talking about how dynamic it looks.

The new Berserk game is already proving a more realistic style works very well.

>>143682914
>They'll fix it in the BD guise
animefags still being this delusional

>>143682737
>CGI allows for more interesting camera work
You have no idea what you're talking about. The wonky cameras that move everywhere is a major problem of why things look so bad and is often just used to hide poor animation.

>>143682737
What is that thing shes holding?

>>143683535
Probably more refering to that you can use any angle without much effort with 3dcg, not that the nips take much advantage of it in anime though

How come Japanese vidya have great animations while Japanese anime with cgi is like babbys first animation?

>>143683882

Japanese vidya make money.

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>bitching about cgi
Yeah.. I want to see you try to anime this scene, and then 343 more volumes of obnoxiously detailed alike scenes. Try to animate Falconia for 10 seconds, let me know how that works out.

>>143683981
Just do stills with shaky effect and more detailed animation when zoomed in

>>143684080
>Just do stills with shaky effect and more detailed animation when zoomed in
I've seen hentai that tries to pull this shit off, it's so disgusting it's impossible to fap to it.

>>143682914
Theres no fixing that mate

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>>143683981
>Maria the Witch
https://youtu.be/ZVcTzyO3U70?t=25s

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>>143682737
CGI looks best in action scenes. But having it in conversations and scenes where characters just walk around looks pretty bad most of the time.

>>143684212
The battle scenes were pretty good in that

I honestly think it looks alright

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>>143684212
>show something that's nowhere even close to the level of magnitude and detail in Berserk
>one scene literally only shows the spear heads because shit would be too difficult to animate every single soldier
>the animation looks ass
thanks for proving my point

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>>143683237
>everyone jumping and spinning around like weightless ballerinas
>swords look like they have no weight or impact
>half the processing power is used to animate the gaytastic hairstyles
Look at yourself in the mirror when you walk, and move around. you will notice you actually move like the 2016 berserk cgi you despise so much, not like that square enix shit for children

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>>143684328
one more example, just to beat on a dead horse

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>>143684080
This. Berserk '97 had glorious stills. Stills are timeless, whereas Berserk 2016 already looks outdated. It's like a prerendered cutscene from a PS2 game.

>>143684080
Lol
This is what will happen

>>143683535
>is often just used to hide poor animation
I would rather poor animation be hidden than having it staring me right in the face.

>>143683981
This is why you make movies instead of shitty cheap TV anime

>>143684777
http://imgur.com/a/pzNbD glorious

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>>143684777
Lets be sincere here, even the TV series falls short and those stills look shit compared to the manga. I won't even pick on the animation because it's the same thing. We all need to accept this simple truth:

The technology to make a true quality Berserk fluid animation that stays true to the original work, simply doesn't exist yet.

As for myself, I think it's the greatest story ever told, and it makes shit like GoT look like a children's fairy tale, so I'm just glad people are at least trying to adapt it to modern media, and trying to animate it, which is of itself, a monumental task. Perhaps in the future when CGI gets better people will get a worthy adaption, and I will probably be dead by then, but for now, this is all we can get and I'm thankful for it.

you convinced me /a/. i'm finally picking up the manga. having watched the '97 anime, is it okay to skip the Golden Age arc in the manga or am i missing out on something worthwhile?

>>143685425
There is some important backstory missing from the anime and things are just generally more fleshed out. Just start from the beginning.

>>143685585

alighty then. here i go.

rip exam period

>>143682914
FIX!?
how could you fucking fix this?

Never read or watched anything berserk but I gotta ask

Why do they always go with 3D for this series

>>143683237
Sorry, it looks like shit

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>>143682737
Slightly off-topic, but:
>see Berserk anime coming out
>hyped as fuck, liked older stuff, plus got heavily into Souls, which obviously grasped inspiration from Berserk
>never look up a PV because busy and shit, always glance over the notion
>watch the anime
>fucking horrified

>watch Tales of Zestiria last night
>recent game-anime I've watched have been shit, expect little, like Berserk, don't read up or watch PVs because lazy faggot
>mfw this shit

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i want to fuck this elf

>>143684660
good thing the chapters in which miura goes from dark and gloomy to mass number of picture details still lie ahead

>>143687003
i guess to avoid using still pictures

Praying for decent merchandise after this shitstorm is over

I still seriously can't believe that they skipped the Count arc (Guardians of Desire). It would have at least helped new viewers know who the God Hand were, especially Femto/Griffith. And the fight scene between him and the Count would have definitely been a good show.

>>143688648
by "him," I mean Guts

>>143683184
MAPPA does a good job with CGI in general. IN Bahamut or Garo for example.

>>143687934
Wait, shouldn't a rope like that be a lot bigger?

>>143682737
This is what the new anime looks like?

Really?

>>143688866
It's twine maybe

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>>143689909
>This is what the new anime looks like?

>>143688814
Garo's fight looked incredible, the choreography are almost perfect, on of my favourite anime. Also the CGI blend perfectly with the 2d background. I'd take CGI like that any day (I'm talking about the first season, haven't watched the second).
>tfw OVA sub never
>tfw still no Divine Flame BD

>>143685250
It does exist. It would be really fucking expensive.

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How could this happen? How is this even possible?

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>>143690605
>Approaching Teekyuu spinoff numbers

>>143690184
ugh

>>143682737
Actually, once everything is modeled and rigged properly, you animate an hour of CGI in 3 hours real time.

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>>143684242
While I liked Maria the virgin witch the fight scenes had their issues.
Them background characters

Still far better than the Berserk anime though.

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>>143683237
Sorry, did you meant to say Guilty Gear Xrd?

>>143691540
That's pretty good though

>that guy who buckles down between shots from getting bonked on the head but still hasn't given up

What a trooper

>>143690605
>MAL hates it
Should I like it then?

>>143688814
Shame the second Garo anime looked so much worse
And even then it still looks better than Berserk

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>>143690184
I wouldn't mind it as much if they had limited the CGI to action scenes, but it's fucking everywhere.

They didn't even bother to do a trace over of it.
It's disgusting.

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>>143682737
>and scenes with lots of characters all looking consistently the same quality.
copy-paste characters, sure. if you actually want them to look and move like distinct characters that takes more work.

>>143683237
not anime

>>143683535
CGI can be used to do more dynamic camera work. of course it can also be abused.

>>143691457
First of all, "once you have everything modeled" is a huge omission, since you have to consider the scene setup too. Secondly, that assumes a lot of automation. Which will look like shit. Many things are tweaked manually. So you're essentially saying "once you've done 80% of the work, you're still slower than realtime". And that's just human labor. You still need to render the shit. And then if someone wants fixes about details you need to redo them.

>>143683981
That's the only excusable usage of CGI I can see.

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>>143683981
draw 5 frames of the battle. loop them. pan over the whole thing. that's how it was done in ye olde days.

>>143683882
Because 3D animators can actually get steady work in vidya games, and often actually have the time/money to do shit like mocap

>>143691769
wait for it.

>>143691635
I don't even think he's hitting him after the closeup.

Like I said, I liked the anime and only really noticed flaws like this in retrospect.
Though mostly I liked all the stuff that was tangential to the main plot but that ended up forming an interesting contrast anyway.

>>143691769
>Name
Of the anime?
It's in my post.

The best descriptor of the character though is definitely dirty frenchman.
I'm just the worst at names.

>>143691833
If you look at the quality of the animation in this series, you'll see just how much automation was involved.

Hand drawn animation is easily more difficult and man power intensive.

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>>143688648
>after
you should have ordered last year

>>143691833
>>143692189
Also, you can do 1 scene setup and get 6 minutes of animation out of it without doing anything.

>>143692189
We were talking about good CG. Automated CG looks like horseshit, as we see.

>>143692304
2D anime recycles layers too.

>school club anime
>shots switch between 3 perspectives of the same room over and over again
>characters barely move

It's not like CG has a monopoly on cost-cutting measures.

>>143691833
While you are slower than real time, you're light years ahead in comparison to hand drawn animation.

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>>143683237
Nah that would be Blizzard
https://youtu.be/cPRRupAM4DI?t=180

>>143692429
The only issue with saying "3 perspectives of 1 room is major cost-cutting!" is that you have to create the same room 3 different times.

You don't have to do that CGI.
You only have to do it once, and you can manipulate it anyway you like.

>>143683237
>>143692492
You should both fuck off back to /v/.

the only time I recall seeing 2D being integrated with CG animation in a non grating manner was the prince of Egypt.

>>143684777
>>143685051
This is 1000x better than anything from the new series. Thanks.

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>>143692607
but with CGI you need models and textures of everything. which already means drawing a bunch of shit. when drawing the room in 2D you only need to draw the objects from one side and can even ignore perspective to some extent.

It's not really clear-cut.

>>143692432
It depends on various factors. CG basically takes more up-front effort for new locations or for changing character designs for things that need manual adjustments to the models frame by frame (motion smear, face faults and all that)

If you have characters that change clothing often or a diverse cast with elaborate outfits that can mean a lot more effort in CG.

And things that radically modify the geometry of objects get more difficult CG. Complex organic structures are also more difficult. Try to do pic related in CG.

On the other hand 2D animation takes a lot more per-frame effort during when using a dynamic camera.

>>143693375
Both methods have their own variety of cost cutting techniques

Ever notice how most battles in any mecha show with CG done by Orange take place in either
>A completely flat field
>Space
>The sky
Less shit to model, less shit to texture

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Can you imagine how low the morale must be for the team working on this show right now?

>>143693503
yeah, certainly. just saying that it makes the calculation what is cheaper a lot more complicated.

and also needs some artistic skill to make the cost-cutting not too blatant. Which is why everyone sucks shaft's dick, they've turned that into an art in itself.

and berserk sucks at that

they should have used procedural trees instead of copy-paste trees for example. individual procedural trees may look stupid at times, but a whole forest of them will likely look better than a clone colony.

>>143693780
you're not safe here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiR7KYIQv9U

>>143693780
or maybey they are all on drugs

>>143682737
yes, this series gave me a newfound appreciation of the movies (even tho the director was clearly super inexperienced which showed in the horrible pacing).

>>143693780
Maybe they are laughting on it like we all here.

>>143693780
maybey they dont care
could just be another paycheck for them.

>>143692282
Wasn't really into buyfagging until now. I regret not doing so

I'm saving up in case they do release new stuff, though

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>>143682737
>they were doing the CGI right.

Absolutely.

>>143690184
TOO RATE IT'S TOO RATE~!

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>>143694098
They still have careers. Try getting a job at another studio in one of the most competitive industries there is when the biggest project you've worked on is a titanic failure.

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at least it had tentacle rape

>>143692043
That would be way better, I would ever prefer stills like in your webm to the fucking CGI.

>>143694573
Casca did a good thing by going insane, she doesn't have to see how fucking ugly the world is around her.

anime spas cas a qt

>>143694276
>They still have careers.
not after this they dont.

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>>143682914
>Maybe they'll fix things
So throw everything out and start over from scratch with a studio that's actually competent?

>>143692611
/v/ gets better CGI in general than /a/ does. How does that even happen?

>>143694912
Vidya is entirely CGI, while CGI in anime is purely experimental. Bubuki Buranki was alright though.

The biggest failing of all the anime/movies is failing to capture the beauty of the manga art. The manga is so stylish, where as the anime always end up being generic fantasy

What the Puck is wrong with the animations?

>>143685250
>nd it makes shit like GoT look like a children's fairy tale
It's funny you say that. I'm a big fan of both, and I've always seen GoT as a western, more political version of berserk. For me they both satisfy the same fictional niche

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>>143690184

>Watch the new berserk anime
>it's a CGI shitfest
>even for normal scenes there are tons of CGI shit

WHY?
H
Y
?

Is this manga worth reading? It won't turn into generic shonen shit after 5 chapters?

>>143695535
It's absolutely worth reading. It has a few shitty arcs, but the main arcs are really good. Plus it has timeless visuals.

>>143694912
video games have 100X or even 1000x the budget.

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>CLANG

>>143695770
I actually really like the sounds when he hits shit with the dragonslayer. It fits since it's literally a giant piece of metal

>>143695865
It's true.
Imagine hitting a wooden desk with that thing.

The soft body target (Colette) was too much though.

>>143696148
Yea it shouldn't have against the girl. I also hated that he threw up when he rekt her; he's done much worse many times at this point, it really wasn't characteristic of guts

>>143688814
Also, the environments and backgrounds in punch line were full CG. It actually meshed really well with the hand drawn characters and stuff.

>>143695865
>>143696148
For me, the effort should be put on the SWOOOSH. We are talking about a huge pointy metal slab coming at high speed direct to your skull.

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>>143696240
Are you serious? Read the fucking manga.

>>143696240
It happened in the manga, though. (the throwing up part). He probably was shocked after slicing Colette in half. He was just starting his

>>143696582
I have, but it was a few years back and it completely disappeared from my memory I guess

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Why did Guts sometimes have a devil tail during Golden Age

>>143696625
his "career" as the Black Swordsman

>>143696649
It's his sword sheath. He puts the tip into the end of the "tail".

>>143696240
He's throwing up because he's wounded. It also happens in the manga. And Guts is way softer than he tries to look. That's the entire point of the Lost Children Arc.

>>143696640
Now that you didn't call me a faggot I feel bad about being rude, sorry.
But yeah. it was in the manga as well.

>>143696761
>>143696625
See >>143696640
Apparently my memory is dogshite

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>>143694912
A matter of priorities.

>tfw we'll never see animated sadguts.jpg

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>>143682737
I actually liked first episode

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>Hating CGI

>>143696814
NP anon. This wouldn't be /a/ if I didn't get insulted every time I made a mistake. I should probably re-read the manga at some point if I want to actually discuss shit in these threads

>>143696867
sayaka, go hunt some witches. the grief is tainting your judgement again.

>le berserk movies were bad meme

yeah the CGI is spotty in a few places, esp in the first one, but overall they're pretty great, stop being autistic

>>143696922
But Farnese already set all the witches and heretics on fire.

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>>143696901
looks like shit. it may pander to your fetishes, but that doesn't make it good CGI.

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When I watched the shitfest the episode one of the new anime was, I decided to rewatch the old one.

Fucking hell now I remember this feeling, the scene when they uncover Griffith's face in the cell and Guts held him while crying...

Yes, it was cheap as fuck and they cut out a lot of things like the Black Dog or the Kushan, but for now is the best animation we berserk fans have.

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Remember when CGI was good?

>>143697467
>chibis
that's cheating. imagine chibi guts.

>>143697121
The animation was so great.
I just ignored all of the cheap money saving necessities and enjoyed it.

It's not upsetting in the slightest they're skipping over the golden age arc.

I'm glad they're not touching it.

>>143682737
This doesn't even look particularly worse than most typical anime, it just animates more smoothly or 'glidey' which makes it look weird.

Most anime to this day is still nothing but the mouths moving on otherwise static characters, so hardly anything is really even being animated half of the time aside from mouths opening and closing. I really fail to see what's so much better about that aside from it's just what people are used to.

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>no specials about guts and puck cooking

>>143697776
They already touched it, and fondled it, and licked it, and gently caressed it, and molested it.

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>>143682737

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>>143682737

why didn't they put his left arm on the stocks?

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>>143682737
Well that was just the worst.
Animation was shit.
Story changes were shit.
Animation was shit.
Characterization was shit (guts is just kinda stroppy, instead of being, you know, BERSERK)
Animation was shit.
Music was shit.
Animation was shit.

Seriously could you do a worse adaption of my favorite arc of my favorite manga. Guts doesn't look anything like Guts. They shoehorn Isidro in there and don't do anything with him. They skip the snake baron arc completely (and by the looks of that stinger, the guardians of desire and Rosine arcs too) and in doing that skip some of the most iconic and important scenes in the series. You can't just skim through characterization of someone like post-eclipse Guts. It needs time, and that's what those arcs did. They cut out the snake baron, but realized they needed a big monster fight. But instead of reinstating it, they just had Guts not kill the Koka castle thugs and let them go, so we could follow them to a hanging tree, which is cursed. Not an Apostle or anything, but still hungry for Guts' guts.
Fuuuuuck. Not happy.
>>143695535
Do it. It's fucking awesome. One of my favorite series of anything of all time. All the adaptions are shit on some level, through cutting out important characters, skipping and skimming important scenes (I want to see Wyald and the black dogs *sometime*) or through shitty CG animation.

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>>143684777
>>143685051
I miss it.

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>>143697121
>the scene when they uncover Griffith's face in the cell and Guts held him while crying...
The genuine emotion of the 97 series helps me overlook most of its shortcomings.

It was low budget, but they still knew how to pace it to let the characters and their plight develop in an impactful way.

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This "limited animation" shit also needs to die.

It will never work for CGI.

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>>143698284

>>143699152
The quality it deserves, but not the one we need right now.

>endless bitchfest

You're no better than warhammer fans

>>143699688
of course berserk fans are mad its fucking terrible

>>143699688
This adaptation is objectively shit.

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>>143699688
What do you expect? You're looking at this seasons meme central.

>>143685250
>those stills look shit compared to the manga
What a fucking surprise. The TV series is still the best swordman fantasy war demon shit anime out there.

>>143698488
>They skip the snake baron arc completely
We already saw that in the TV series, I think they're just trying to cover what hasn't been done before
> (and by the looks of that stinger, the guardians of desire and Rosine arcs too)
that comes later on, you massive faggot. i like how fucks like you voice your opinion on shit then you have to apologize when people correct your unbearable faggotry.
>Well that was just the worst.
No it wasn't. You're just too used to square enix faggotry like this guy
>>143683237

>>143698426
his nose might get itchy. how's he supposed to scratch it otherwise? why are you so insensitive?

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>>143687934
okay

>>143690184
TELL ME WHY
TELL ME WHY

>>143701083

PUT MY GRASSES ON EVERYTHING'S STILL WONG

What is the response like in Japan? Are the nips also pissed?

>>143696901
>CGI
what is that webm from

>>143682737
>characters all looking consistently the same quality
yeah, shit quality

>>143701083
TELL ME WHY THIS BLOWS

I DON'T KNOW WHY
DON'T KNOW WHY

>>143701083
AIN'T NOTHIN BUT A HEARTACHE

>>143701083
I DON'T KNOW WHY
DON'T KNOW WHY
DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'D USE CGI

>>143699958
And within a few years it will be regarded as one of the best.

It's hard to do anything new when people want nothing but nostalgia pandering rose tinted glasses. Fans never know what the fuck they want.

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>>143682737
>10k hours in mspait

>>143701784
>Where did it go wrong?

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>>143699001
>never
that seems to be a very short time span these days

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FUCK
FUCK
FUUUUUUCK
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

Why must all things i love wither and die!

Fuck.This.Faggot.Ass.Dogsucking:Piece.Of.Shit:Planet
I have very few things i truly care about.
Berserk is one of those few select things, it helped me find resolve in a rough patch, to change myself from a stinky social outcast into a /fit/izen and decent human being.
It holds a very special place in my heart, it is one of the best tales ever told in my opinion.
As we watch Guts suffer and struggle, we truly feel it, and we find strength in that we are not alone in an often cruel and unforgiving world.
>How do these fucking moe-shit producers portray this epic tale about a man and his struggle against the impossible
>CLANG

FUUUUUUCKKKK

>>143696831
Close looks fine, but once they're far it looks like shit

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>>143701996
>This shitty adaptation will probably crush any hopes for a better anime
>It's going to sell so horribly no fans will buy it
>Berserk is finished outside of the manga after this if the game doesn't sell well

>>143701083
Because Miura put the brand on all Berserk readers only the apostles drink their tears instead.

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>>143702283
ALL I WANT IS A FUCKING STUDIO TO DO THIS MASTERPIECE SOME FUCKING JUSTICE

>Is it too much too ask for SOME love from the department
>Some indication that they CARE about the source
>Some fucking respect for the og artstyle and detail
>BONG

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>we have to sit through 26 episodes and 50 threads daily of this fucking mess

>>143702283
>>143701996
I keep watching this trash in disbelief. Also, what the fuck was with the tree demon scene? Did Guts' sword turn into a fucking chainsaw? I don't remember this happening in the manga but I could be wrong.

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haven't seen a score this low on MAL for a currently airing series since... no, I don't think I've ever seen a score this low for a currently airing series.

>>143696901
I need a sauce on this.
I don't care what I have to offer in return.

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tfw you watched better animation in sunday school

>>143684777

Honestly, what the fuck happened. How could they even release this abomination and expect people to like it. I mean I guess if your animators work for fuck all, and your project costs fuck all then when it fails it doesn't matter, maybe that's why it looks so shit. At least one retard will buy the BD's and that will give them a profit.

>>143692282

Volume 14, 18 and 19 have nice suntans.

>>143701289
>>143703031
check the archive with cross-board search. no, not that one, the other one.

>>143693904

This video contains content from Victor Entertainment, Inc.. It is not available in your country.

>>143682737
It's an excuse for them to practice CGI. The director doesn't even read Berserk.

>>143703763
all you have to do is to google the title.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm26631490

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>>143702398
>26 episodes

you got to be fucking kidding me, 6 months of this?!?

Stay a while and listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1o4O2SfQ5g

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>I realize that they were doing the CGI right.

They did it, those bastards lower your standards so that you now accept those shitty animated movies as "right." Is this what we have to look forward from anime in this decade

Was this their end game?

>>143702056
Oh COME ON

Will they even fix this in the BDs?

>>143682737
I'd love if the anime looked half as good as the movies

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>>143705250
fugg man, im honestly on the brink of tears, how can one man encapsule hardship, sorrow, loneliness, longing, and tiredness so fucking well

>See Kotaku article
>"The New Berserk Anime Already Outshines The '90s Original"
>wut?
This has to be a joke: http://kotaku.com/the-new-berserk-anime-already-outshines-the-90s-origina-1782990737

>>143705525
I know in american animation there was a sort of dark ages where animation quality plummeted for several decades, I believe japan is entering such an age..

>>143706404
they used money they saved with their shitty animation to bribe reviewers lol
plus look at who wrote that article some dumb stupid bitch

need more bunny memes plox -- the thread earlier was a goldmine

>>143702056
I'm fucking depressed now

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>>143706404

clickbait, come on

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>>143706404
Sponsored Content

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"t-tell my wife i..." *CLANG*

>>143683237
Holy shit did they never study sword fights before storyboarding this crap? That's ridiculous.
Putting so much work to the bin just because the base are sloppy.

>>143683371
What a retarded point.

This is just a plot to make us appreciate the movies right? There's no way someone could fuck up berserk this badly.

>>143701765
>>And within a few years it will be regarded as one of the best.
?

No?

When has something like that EVER happened?

>>143701765
i'll b8te

>fans never know what the fump they want

I want an adaptation that isn't 90+% clunky, awkward 3D animation with shit-tier butt rock backing all the action scenes.

I don't think this is too much to expect.

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Almost as bad as Parasyte desu

>>143697717
>chibis are cheating

Then why did chibi Puck look so horrible?

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Does anyone have a count of all the clangs in the first episode?

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>>143701222
The majority of Nips also don't like the CG from what I have read in futaba

>>143707838
>Nips have good taste
What is this witchcraft

>>143707838
what do these moonrunes say?

>>143707838
Nips from 2ch likes it.

>>143708037
>nips, mal and /a/ agree
dire times.

>>143708585
isn't that like their reddit or something?

>>143701222
>Are the nips also pissed?
it airs on the 7/08 on MBS. It will probably be well received and it will boost the manga sales.

>>143708623
>2ch
>reddit
No, you're retarded and you should end yourself.

>>143691833
What the fuck?
Since when did the Zaku have vulcans?

>>143708338
Similar shit to what has been said over here. They think the CG is unfortunate but easier to do with. They don't think the shading matches up well at some parts. They don't like the camera movement, One guy was comparing the CG to star wars the clone wars (I don't know), Others were comparing it to Kingdom and Sidonia (which they didn't seem to be to fond of either).

>>143708855
Thats just futaba though I don't really go on 2 channel

>>143708693
as in being mainstream.

>>143708855
At least Sidonia has great space combat scenes.

The character CG was dogshit but that 60fps SVP thing made it alright, Beserk is just fucking unsalvageable,

>>143708977
>At least Sidonia has great space combat scenes.
Eh, I would say sidonia's CG was just good enough to not detract from the space battles. It didn't really improve them. It's just that sidonia did enough novel things that weren't just mecha faction A vs. mecha faction B to make the combat in itself it interesting.

The gauna looked like fucking glazed putty.

>>143709184
What was the budget for Sidnoia anyway? could they have animated decent space combat without cg?

I think it will get better. The animation team is probably focusing on the more complex shit that is to come later, like the monsters and the landscapes and didn't have time to polish everything. Hopefully it will improve now that they know their limitations. This is generally par for the course for CG shows.

anyone has a webm of Schierke from the episode 01?

>>143709451
also who is her VA? She talked, right?

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The terrible CG animations were bad enough, but what the fuck is up with the noisy textures and normal maps on everything? Are they going for 90's CG nostalgia or something?

>>143709503
Saito Chiwa

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Is this the meme show of the season?

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At least UFOtable showed more sense using CGI in God Eater. There are so many studios FINALLY doing justice to manga adaptions. Bones with BnHA; WIT with Owari no Seraph/AoT; Madhouse with OPM, etc
They just do 2 chapters per one episode, copy the original artistic style and slap some music on that. Bam fucking 10/10 aoty
But no
we have studios like this or fucking Pierrot who're all like "what the fuck is art".
I mean I shouldn't be surprised, this is the same shitstain studio that ruined Terraformars

>>143709392
Did you see the trailer?

>>143710265
>Does this look like the face of mercy?

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>>143710265
Of course.

>>143709875
reminds me of dungeons and stone masonry in oblivion. everything had that slightly rough, yet shiny sheen as if it were wet.

>>143710265
If the 2nd episode continues like that, yeah

>>143710265
shaping up to be meme show of the decade

>>143682737
So I had the misfortune of watching it this morning.

Man that was absolute garbage. The CG was OK but the way the "camera" moved felt like shit. There's just too much movement for no reason. It doesn't make Guts look any cooler; it just makes it hard to see anything.

The music doesn't fit. They should have just gotten Susumu Hirasawa to do this shit.

>CLANG CLONG CLANG
just fuck my shit up already

A good Black Swordsman arc was all many fans wanted. I wouldn't say I'd rather have another Golden Age arc but if this CLANG keeps up I'm gonna fuck off.

>>143710995
>but if this CLANG keeps up I'm gonna fuck off.
don't you mean [CLANG] off?

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>>143710995
>CLANG CLONG CLANG
>just fuck my shit up already
It's a slab of metal, you stupid faggot, not your shitty little swords that make high pitch sounds

>>143702496
What about Endride?

>>143709392
dat denial

>>143709392
The first and last episodes always have the highest production values.

It's only downhill from here.

>>143711389
nigger he chopped a little girl in half and it CLANGED

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>>143686748
By redrawing every frame in the whole fucking series.

>>143710705
Do you realize that when Farnese whips Guts, it's going to involve sound effects?

>CRACK.wav CRACK.wav CRACK.wav CRACK.wav

Read ahead in the manga and find scenes where sound effects are important, and you'll have a spoiler guide for every meme moment in this show, because if the clanging is any indication they have exactly one clip to play for every sound.

>>143696831
THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS. FUCK MOE!

>>143711389
Dude potatoes, rabbits and unarmoured little girls don't clang when you stab them. Try it out for yourself.

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>>143710265
>>143710557
I may just have to watch it despite it being utter garbage.

>>143694155
those copy pasted facial expressions are 1000x better than current year berserk

CLANG

>>143684144
someone post the mekakucity actor tv/bd comparison.

>>143706980
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIsBELqg_3E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwCp8WyBMRw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc4ITfAZTA4

>>143708927
>4chan
>not mainstream in [current year]

OH BOY

>>143706980
someone should make a banner but with the 4chan clover thrown at the usagi

>>143711611
it clashed with the sword she was holding while it ripped her in half. do you really need to be spoonfed everything, anon?

>>143706404
>linking to "Sword Art Online is the Smartest Anime I've Seen in Years".com

Stop killing this board.

This is the saddest thread I've ever seen on Reddit, and that's saying something. Look at these apologists try and maintain their excitement.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Berserk/comments/4r86ol/did_anyone_like_the_new_anime/

>>143712467
>linking reddit at all
fuck off you piece of shit. no wonder you're such a massive faggot

>>143711909
>Dude potatoes
Take your bullshit "so funnay everything maymay CLANG! xD" crap somewhere else please

>>143712548
fine, more pleb tears for me

>>143707355
A good example is The Empire Strikes back. It was disliked by fans and critics during it's release due to pacing and the cliff hanger ending but 15+ years later, it's regarded the best Star Wars film.

>>143710265
>My ancestors are smiling upon me, anonymous, can you say the same?

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is there any really good anime currently airing that i can watch instead as a palate cleanser? i just want to pretend this didn't happen.

>>143683237
Eh, that's a very fantasy world with literal ayylien hybrids and the scene is also 8 years old. Kingsglaive is a better example of their weightier fantasy style.
http://youtu.be/nGl_2gYrfM0

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>mfw berserk is a literal Chinese cartoon

>>143695770
Actually the campy fucking pirates reminded me of Army of Darkness.

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Okay, having rewatched the episode a few times, it's not as horrendous as I thought. If you completely put out of mind the masterpiece it was adapted from, it's a decent introduction that established most things adequately. It has the right tone mostly, although Guts could really be angrier, lines like
>YOU'RE TOO DAMP TO BE USEFUL AS FIREWOOD
Really don't work unless said super brash and arrogantly, it's not a cool one-liner, it's a stupid in-the moment insult and should be treated as such.
The introduction of most of guts's new party in the first episode wasn't bad and the tree monster serves as a decent first boss. They really do need to adapt guardians of desire, and if they don't just try and skim the rest of conviction it should work out decently. When you're not taking stills every second the animation isn't that horrendous, it looks mostly fine in context.
TLDR: Still disappointing, but not the atrocity it's been meme'd to be.

>>143712913
funny how dubbing over 2D animation in a different language works fine, but dubbing over hyperreal 3D looks like a bootleg kung fu movie.

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Who saw Teekyuu and went "Man, we should get these guys to do Berserk!"?

>>143691833
sorry im a pleb, but what gundam is this?

>>143713048
Miura

>>143712850
Relife

>>143713120
That was probably the only place who would do it.

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>>143713048
Don't dis Teekyuu, it's animated much better than this berserk. Teekyuu is actually pretty nice and popular, it even had a spinoff?

>>143713048
..and then when they try the monumental task of animating something like this in a traditional anime stile, they'll fall short, because of the obnoxious detail in the original work, and you will complain about it, and shit on them too
>>143683981

>>143713046
its easier to redraw the mouth 2d and syncronize it with the dub voice.

>>143713046
>confirmation bias: the post
English is the original voice track. Note the lack of characteristic Jap mannerisms there.

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>>143712945
RIP animators

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i am shocked that this is a real frame from a real anime in 2016

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>>143713225
>its easier to redraw the mouth 2d
>>143713261
rip, no one can animate this besides Miura

>>143713300
gotta love how the trees just jut out of the flat ground, like an mmorpg circa 2004. seriously, if it was good cgi i'd have no problem, but this just looks like shit.

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>>143713206
Don't misunderstand, I adore Teekyuu, but who would think this was a good idea?
Nasuno best girl. Also best season

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Should've used the migu engine desu desu

>>143713300
>b-b-but muh detailed manga panels!

>>143683237

they move like they have no mass or weight, like the michael bay transformers movies

how could you look at that and think that looks good?

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>>143713261
>>143713318
berserk is easy to animate they said

AHAHAHAHA WTF IS THIS? are you all blind? This shit hurts my eyes, how can you watch this without laughing and being disgusted at the same time? holy shit

>>143713489
>>143713318
>>143713261
What is with all this denial?

>>143713495
>AHAHAHAHA WTF
>>>/b/

I like it.

>>143713478
mass and weight are overrated.

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>>143684777
>It's like a prerendered cutscene from a PS2 game.
Please stop saying that. That's an insult to Berserk's actual PS2 game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdpqV7RPnTE

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>>143713522
Pssh, let him keep posting, the butthurt fans in denial are best part of this whole thing.

>>143713048
it's 3 studios, not just one. but they're all no-names, more or less.

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>>143713626
>That's an insult to Berserk's actual PS2 game.
>>>/trash/

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>>143690184
Just zero sense of weight. No weight to the sword, to Guts or to the danger of the situation.

It wasn't even that bad.

>>143713711
>it's 3 studios,
2

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>>143713318
>>143713261
>draw it larger than screen size
>color it
>pan over it, slowly
>only animate a few little things

If one guy can draw the manga a swarm of animators should be able to do at least a few spreads per episode. It's not like it has to look like this all the time.

At least for scenery it should be possible. Armies and monsters are a different story.

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>>143713489
>berserk is easy to animate they said

>>143713626
>doesn't look any better
>"I'm going to make believe it looks better, and join the maymay fun, LOL xD"
fuck off

>>143713767
2D: liden films, millepensee
3D: gemba

>>143713489
>>143713318
>>143713261
Miura is crazy

It's like CDI zelda, we just have to forget it exists and ignore any attempt of discussing it.

>>143713855
Lidens films is just the producer.

2D: Millepensee
CG: Gemba

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>>143713810
at least the surfaces of those things are textureless. a procession walking by should be feasible. like walpurgisnacht's familiar parade in meguca

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>>143713810
>berserk is easy to animate they said
>we want a 2d slideshow anime like it was the case with 1997 garbage they said

>>143693780

what do the nips think of the new anime?

>>143713894

mah boi

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IMO movie 3 had the best animation overall. They had the brilliant idea to work 2D faces into the 3D models and it worked perfectly. Characters didn't look like dolls anymore and you could actually tolerate the CG.

No idea why they aren't doing the anime like this.

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>>143713046

>>143713610
t. Energy

>>143714006
it's a movie
>more time and more budget.

fuck you guys, this is some Damn Good Anime

>>143713976
slides for the far shots
some CG might be tolerable for monster closeups. I mean CG monsters usually tend to look meh, but at least it wouldn't affect the rest.

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Not only the CGI was godawful but the camera angles, weird ass perspective effects and random elements moving in a motionless fashion made the whole thing legit nausea inducing.
Not to mention the weird up-close shots and the characters randomly appearing with transparency instead of using classic action panels.

My verdict: JUST

>>143713247
ah, so the lip and mouth animations are just bad. thank you for confirming.

>Not liking Berserk in all it's forms

GTFO fags, you're not men you're a bunch of fucking faggots, this is a fucking masterpiece and you should go back to your moeshit sols

>>143713732
>Phil
is that from hbi2k?

>>143714006
>>143714035
>Live2D Cubism.
>Available as Unity plugin
there is prepackaged software for exactly that process available.

So Berserk 2016 looks/sounds like it was rendered on a ps2 due to the studios' budget/shit choices/time constraints or whatever, which begs the question:
What studio could best do Berserk justice?

>>143713489
Why would you animate a building? That should be a painting, like >>143713802

>>143714663
you should ask, who has the money and how would you manage to recoup the investment.

>>143713985
see >>143707838

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>>143714539
Yes.

>>143714891
I remember stumbling across the BAM video and looking at his older stuff. He's the reason I read the manga in the first place.

>>143713846
the framerate is better, for one
and models don't look so uncanny and don't have that shitty shader

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>>143682737
>tfw the first time you watched Berserk and had no idea what you were getting yourself into
>tfw Zodd
>tfw the Eclipse
>tfw it was more than you could ever anticipate

>>143714663
UFOtable

>>143714698
Hollywood probably.

>>143714663
MAPPA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra47IXw7tqU

>>143684328

>Fucking horse lanes and stop signs

You really need to appreciate just how many horses there are in falconia, can you imagine a situation like in many modern countries where everyone has their own personal car if not more but with horses?

Like millions of people and horses, can you just imagine cleaning up all that horse shit? And you'd have to get all that horse chow too. Falconia would turn into India overnight.

>>143719212
And that gives a lot of jobs too the lower classes. Even in real life with in history the jobs that deal with shit often pay well compared what most people at level can get.
Like these guys https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gong_farmer
But they like they have walk around the city ALL day with long shifts just sweeping and collecting.

I put way too much thought into this... Fuck it thinking of alturnate history is fun

>>143695535
I'm expecting something big to happen in future chapters. Guts needs to cut down one of the angels to send a message or SOMETHING.

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>>143693780
>guts get turned into a cute little weak anime girl
why isn't this a thing yet