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>He is not hitting on me so that must not be him
Not surprised the slut would think that.

>Southwestern coast of whole cake
>Seducing woods
Trap or not? Thats where pudding told them to meet her
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>mfw patiently waiting for Sanji and Nami to kiss
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Pudding is ugly as fuck.
Atleast change her personality.
Either make her more pretty or get rid of her ASAP.
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>>143652794
She is definitely lying. She didn't show up and the forest or whoever made the clones knew the strawhats where there looking for Sanji.
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Oda is not trying to make Pudding seem suspicious and Carrot seem pure and innocent only to reverse their roles later!

Nope! Carrot is not a traitor!

Nope!
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I guess my biggest issue post timeskip is that events like these woods before would be something that they have to think about and a crewmember would have to use their unique talent in a way that is explained to the reader. Early One Piece had lots of that sort of thing. All of Usopp's fights, most of Enies Lobby. Now Nami will just vaguely navigate them out with her new world navigation powers or they'll meet a new character with an awful design who will help them. There's no real tension. Even Usopp doesn't have his methodical style anymore, it's just a bag of seeds with the exact plot plant needed for the situation. Please end soon
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How many more episodes will the filler Arc last?
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>>143656734

Did you forget about the evil jello on her shoulder?
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>>143657200
twenty
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>It's a dragon jobbing episode
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Carrot is not a traitor who just acts nice and actually has a vivre card to lead Jack to the Straw Hat!

Nope!

Nope! Nope!
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>>143657468
so are all women in one piece part of the longleg tribe?
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>>143657111
>I guess my biggest issue post timeskip is that events like these woods before would be something that they have to think about and a crewmember would have to use their unique talent in a way that is explained to the reader.

That's rather uncommon, Strawhats get lost all the time and get unlost by sheer dumb luck. Happened exploring Little Garden, Skypeia, Thriller Bark, Saboady, and the suckers who got stuck following Luffy in Alabasta, Lily Amazon and Impel Down.

>Now Nami will just vaguely navigate them out with her new world navigation powers or they'll meet a new character with an awful design who will help them.

Nami doesn't have any navigation powers outside of the ocean, she's just as helpless on land. And the local guide showing people around the place is not a new theme.

>Even Usopp doesn't have his methodical style anymore, it's just a bag of seeds with the exact plot plant needed for the situation.

Technically, it was always a plot blog. You never had any idea what Usopp was carrying in there, he suddenly whips out something he will never use again like a ball full of cockroaches against Perona. If Oda wants Usopp to lose, he will still lose like against Trebol or win with something out of the magic bag.
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>>143657895

Oda really is doing good job trying to make Pudding look suspicious. I wonder when he makes the real traitor seem suspicious...
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>>143657895
>left-to-right
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>meme the idea that Vegapunk is Chopper 500 years ahead from another timeline as a joke
>now start to genuinely want it to be real as how Chopper gets his 'The Fifth' arc
I mean, the one trope Oda hasn't touched yet is time travel, so maybe eventually.
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>>143657200
The filler is movie related, and in the past all movie related fillers lasted about 2-4 episodes... This one seems like it will go on for a bit longer, I'm guessing around 6 or 7 episodes total.
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>>143657111
I don't know why you're comparing being lost in a forest to major fights. It's more comparable to being lost in Thriller Bark, which was also tensionless.

Besides, this is a manga where the good guys win 90% of the time and people almost never die. The only arcs with any tension were the War saga.
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>>143657662
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>>143657111
Usopp vs Sugar was pretty good, but he really hasn't actually had a 1v1 since the time skip yet aside from Daruma... But that fight sucked mainly because Daruma wasn't a threat.

I see what you're saying and agree partially.
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>>143657468
If anything I think Bellamy's vivre card is gonna fall into the wrong hands because Bellamy has never done a single right thing in his life
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>>143658715

Take that back.
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>>143658482
>It's a shonen and I know they will survive therefore tension cannot be built
okay.
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>>143658779
ok sorry, Bellamy's mom
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>>143658791
Honestly I just enjoy One Piece for the sheer joy of adventure that Oda seems to have that never leaves his manga. We're on an island made of candy after being on a giant elephant island and before that was Spainland. It's a fun manga where bad guys are bastards and it's fun seeing their shit kicked in. It's internally consistent, and everything feels written with purpose. It's just a treat to read every week
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>>143658779
Nigga, you really need a better reaction image cause you are posting that shit for everything.
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>>143658361
>Chopper gets his 'The Fifth' arc
>'The Fifth' arc
I've seen this term used before. Theo only Fifth I know is the one from SG-1. Please elaborate.
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>Big Mom goes on frequent rampages with actual casualties
>Somehow the country, populated by people from all over the world with different opinions and beliefs, is okay with it
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>>143659633
She has the whole country by the balls. You try talking shit to her face when showing the littlest bit of fear in front of a giant despot with a short temper is a 100% sure way to die.
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>>143659577
Most Strawhats get a numbered chapter when they joined. Or rejoined. Zoro was the First. Nami the Second, etc. I believe Chopper and Robin are the only two who hasn't gotten a numbered chapter.
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>>143659633
>one of the 4 Strongest Pirates alive makes a ruckus in her own territory
>people remain quiet
Gee, I fucking wonder why.
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>>143659995

A tyrant with a reputation to match wouldn't have been able to gather that kind of demographics.

It's silly that people treat her country like a paradise and willingly congregate there.

It will probably he revealed that she doesnt actually kill people with her age taking ability or whatever the fuck it is.
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>First half of the grand line: A paradise
>New World:Fucking horrible
>Jobbers left and right in the new world
>hell

no.
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>>143659894
oda forgot
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>>143652794
>>143656734
>>143657895
Why the forest and not anything between the island she was on and where they are now?

She sent them to island where they want to go, they'd have run int trouble anywhere anyways
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>>143660386

It's the same with Grand Line.

Hyped it up as the craziest thing ever and yet it's full of shitters or regular civilians surviving just fine. Entirely kingdoms with no strong warriors somehow existing no problem.
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>>143660386
Pre-timeskip Strawhats would have been wrecked by the New World

Doflmaingo was a somewhat challenging opponent, and I'm sure they'll struggle against Big Mom and Kaido and their respective crews

I'm just curious to see what Kaido's going to do since he wants a big war and since he may soon have knowledge that Big Mom unknowingly possesses Poseidon
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>>143660527
>Pre-timeskip Strawhats would have been wrecked by the New World
The other supernova crews seem to have managed fine.
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>>143660450
Remember that shit? How hyped the Grand Line was? Remember how people said it was the pirates grave yard that no one came back from and it was a big deal that Zeff and Krieg made it out?

Thanks Oda.
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>>143660657
I'd like to see what happens when non-jobber Strawhats fight the other Supernovas, I'd imagine they'd crush most of them
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>>143660738
Yeah Krieg would have been fine if he didn't run into a bored Mihawk
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>>143660444
because it was a trap?
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>>143660527
How? Doffy was only on the radar because of Law. The Strawhats wouldn't have fought Doffy 2 years ago. Would they be able to finish the New World as quickly as Paradise? Definitely not. Does that they'll get completely wrecked? Absolutely not. Everyone else survived just fine.
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>>143660386
Well, the jobbers think it's hell, at least.
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>>143660657
>Kidd, Killer, Hawkins, and Apoo, and X Drake become Kaido's bitch
>Capone is Big Mam's bitch
>Bonney in hiding
>Urouge hiding out in sky islands
Yeah they're doing alright
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>>143660924
>Everyone else survived just fine.
Except for Bonney's crew.
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>>143660657
>bonney instantly wrecked by blackbeard and captured by marines
>drake serves kaido now
>bege serves big mom now
>urouge got wrecked and is healing up on a sky island
>kid has one arm less
>law didn't even go until like a year later
sure, the monster trio might've survived somehow but the rest of crew could've died like moria's
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>>143660988
Could be worse.
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>>143661034
Yea, cause having 12 big hairy dudes with you while stealing pizza is a good idea.
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>>143660892
Well if they were guaranteed to run into trouble anywhere she sure did them a great favour
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>>143660924
>spreading your asscheeks to "the man" is doing well for yourself

Yeah Strawhats were never going to do that, so Big Mom, Kaido, and maybe Blackbeard would have come to crush them much sooner, and then if they were lucky enough to survive the first attack, they'd have to run and hide under Shanks to survive any further, which is something Luffy would not like doing
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>>143661067
Not if you're aiming to be pirate king.
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>>143660527
>I'm just curious to see what Kaido's going to do since he wants a big war
He doesn't want a big war, he wants a total, world-wide war. He's suicidal, but since he can't off himself, he turned to omnicide instead.
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>>143660924
everyone else probably didn't go on the island with the overpowered logia
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>>143659633
Honestly it seems like this affliction is something that Big Only has only started suffering from fairly recently. People, even her own kids, seem pretty shocked and horrified at how she's acting.
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>Well if
holy shit dude
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>>143661180
That's why I'm guessing Kaido would go for Poseidon

If he got his hands on that, he could wreck anyone in the One Piece world and cause a shitload of chaos and destruction

Obviously the Marines and the Yonko wouldn't appreciate that, especially Big Mom who would consider Poseidon "hers" because it's in her territory, even if she didn't know about it
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>>143661298
So the big takedown order is
>Big Mam
>Kaido
>WG takes down Shanks or Revolutionary Army
>Blackbeard, WG, Revolutionary Army/Shanks + Strawhat Fleet 3 Way Battle Royale over Raftel
And then Luffy becomes Pirate King
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>>143661573
>a "trap"
>Big Mom has large territories with numerous allies
>group is clueless on how to proceed

>gives them a secret, direct route to the main island somehow avoiding any confrontation

>the "trap" is some living trees, creatures and "illusions"

The hell kind of a trap is that

>in an extremely dangerous place I'll show them exactly where to go and get them there very fast which is by far the biggest obstacle, but some tricky forest there will be their undoing!
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>>143661113
Do you really think that if she really had 12 big hairy dudes with her she would have to steal pizzas one slice at a time and by skulking around, instead of just taking over the pizzeria? She got rekt by Blackbeard and miraculously escaped Akainu after an unspecified amount of time. She has no crew to speak of.
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>>143661692
the kind that oda writes
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>>143661681
I always thought that Big Mom and Kaido would go down first, then in the ensuing power vacuum Blackbeard would go for the final take-down on Shanks, making Blackbeard the de facto King of the Pirates until he or Luffy found One Piece
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>>143661692
>somehow avoiding any confrontation
They didn't though. Fuck.
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>>143661803
I actually don't think Luffy will straight up fight Big Mom. He'll humiliate her and get some victory but Kaido will be the first Yonko he actually beats so it'll be as big a deal as when he beat Crocodile. Blackbeard is definitely gonna make a power play but the WG needs to be dealt with in some way. It's just a toss up of whether WG or Blackbeard are the final villains
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>>143661180
>Surely i'll die fighting in this war
>Survives
>Fuck
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>>143661692
the ants think about the ants!
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>>143661985
>He'll humiliate her and get some victory
if he leaves this arc on bad terms with big mom, he'll be getting a few "presents" soon
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>>143660657
Two years in the New World and they've done the same amount of progress as the SH done in a few weeks
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>>143661692
>Everyone complains arcs take to long.
>Everyone complains some arcs are heavily convoluted.
>Not everything has to be convoluted and sometimes things can be that simple.
>Bad story writing is doing the same thing over and over, switching things up from convoluted to simple is a good thing.

Why does anyone think this is a bad thing?
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>>143661692
Big Mom wants her enemies close, anon. She knows he is in her territory and she is probably planning something big to do to him, be it related to the tea party or not.
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Can't wait till Luffy uses Gear First; who knows what it could be.

Probably a monkey god.
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I had an Idea for a pirate
anyone wanna hear it?
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>>143662904
Absolutely; we all love original characters here and we won't steal them.
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>>143662085
Why? It's not like he didn't go to a Tea Party or anything. Big Mom already showed that she's kinda on board with the whole "Pirate = Free" deal. The Strawhats left on bad terms in FI too. And she did the reasonable thing and said she'd direct her gaze towards the SHs.
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An hour of Oda drawing. Strangely captivating.

http://www.bilibili.com/video/av3196462/
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When will Big Mom open the Tamate Box?
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>>143662933
okay
His name is Lawrence "Noose Neck" Longfellow
He was an average new world Pirate that stayed behind to hold off the Marines while his crew escaped after they stole a huge supply of gold.
He was hung from a tree for his crimes, but for some reason he didn't die.
the figured if they just left him he'd eventually starve to death, so they left him hanging.
Weeks passed and he only survived by eating birds that tried to peck his tongue out.
eventually, his body stretched to the point where he could get free of his noose leaving him freakishly tall with a super long neck.
his trick is that he uses Kami-e and the stretchiness of his body to coil around his opponents and suffocate/strangle them
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>>143653242
I know it's a troll, but why?
Seeing Nami or Robin kiss a crewmate would be like watching your girlfriend make out with a retard.
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>>143663509
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>>143663515
Not trolling.
Also Sanji does not look at Nami like a sister. Only Luffy sees her that way.
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>>143660431
>oda
>forgetting anything
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>>143663592
what?
with all the weird ass ways people have mutated in the series a guy stretching after being hung isn't really that far fetched?
remember the guy who sat in a treasure chest so long that his body literally fused with it, that's a lot weirder.
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>>143663163
thank you for linking this, I enjoyed watching it.
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>>143661799
No he doesn't. comparing this so called trap to Doffy trap laid out are different. Doffy traps were way more elaborate and made actual sense compared to this
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>>143661573
Your whole argument is based on a if
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>>143661985
With two of the Yonko defeated I figure the chaos would keep the WG very distracted.
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>>143663739
Gaimon is weird, yea, but that doesn't make Long Noose Jackson over there any better. Especially with the damn surviving on crows, magical survival of being hung and suffocating people with his langy neck shit.
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>>143659577
Strawhats get a numbered chapter everytime they join the Strawhats, or have a moment where they put aside some part of their behavior to rejoin proper. Zoro, Sanji, Franky and Brook all got theirs when they joined, but Nami only got hers at the end of the Arlong arc, and Usopp only got his at the end of the Water 7 Saga. The only two who haven't yet are Robin and Chopper. Robin hadn't got hers after Water 7, so it's assumed hers will come after we have a proper Revolutionary saga. Chopper though, it's really hard to say what will make him have his crew placement crisis. My guess though is he'll remind them that he never actually affirmed to go with them, just sort of silently came along after Luffy said 'shut up, let's go'.

I think it will be about his devil fruit. Unlike the others he doesn't really have a people of his own. He's not a human though he acts like one. He's not a minkmen though he looks like one. He's just a reindeer, and his intelligence is all because of his fruit. So what is really him, and what's the fruit? Robin, Luffy, Brook, their devil fruits are a part of them, but they aren't their sapience or intelligence. Really all Chopper is is a beast with a mind given to him by a fruit. There's some serious existential depression to unpackage from that.
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>>143664116
this is the universe where Ace's mom held him in for a few extra months to hide him from the World Government.
biology don't mean shit bruv.
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>>143663991

>>143657895
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>>143663957
and your point? the strawhats are still stuck in a deadly forest on the coast that pudding told directed them to.
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>>143664165
And also, Chopper's bounty is definitely going to be a plot point. Remember when Sanji's face not being seen in bounties was a joke and then it became a plot point? Think of how much Chopper idolized Hiriluk's vision, and especially with pirates. How can it feel to grow up on believing in the freedom of pirates and then discovering, after years at sea, you've got a category that has you at the lowest ranking possible? It's got to sting him in more than just a comical way, to find you're the worst out of a profession of millions, at least to one form of ranking?
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>>143663509
that'd be a scary guy to fight.
but it'd be pretty funny to see him try and fight Luffy
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>>143661692
Anon that's because this trap laid out is all head canon.
Why is a yonko setting something up as petty as a trap in her own territory? Definitely when she had the element of surprise and could have easily killed them by now? Why would she need her daughter to lead them there instead of just sinking there ship in the middle of the ocean? So pudding knew that the SH was on her island and would eat her cafe? Oh and she apparently gets told great detail about sanji but is only allowed to see his wanted poster. She can accurately guess that sanji would actually love to marry her but wants to return to his crew. Instead of sending a whole crew in the forest to kill the strawhats they just send one white rabbit, who's quick to attack and give his self away. And there's even more nonsense where that came from
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>>143664223
Nigga, I'm just saying that it's weird. Yea, weird shit hppens in one Piece but it's still weird shit. It's okay. I'm not shitting on your OC. Everying is fine.
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>>143664537
honestly he'd probably see it as a boon because it allows him to get away with a lot more stuff.
It's awesome when a Pirate fucks the Marines over by breaking the rules of their system, but using their own system against them to fuck them over is even more awesome!
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>>143664476
>your point
Why would oda give doffy a great trap and yet give a yonko a flunky trap that looks like it wouldn't even work.plus she never said to go into some woods
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These are the questions to ask yourself to determine whether or not Pudding was lying and set a trap for the Strawhats.

>Did Pudding tell the Strawhats to meet on the southwest coast?
yes.
>Are the Strawhats currently on the southwest coast?
yes
>Have the Strawhats faced danger since docking on the southwest coast?
yes..
>Was Pudding on the southwest coast with Sanji as promised?
no.
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>>143664822
>was pudding and sanji on the south coast
Yes
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>>143664784
>Why would oda give doffy a great trap
He didn't. It failed.
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>>143664776
If it was he hasn't really shown he's seen it that way. He reacted in shock and despair when he saw how low his first bounty was.
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>>143664702
>Human Noose Technique!
>Shishishi, this guy's pretty funny!
>>143664772
Alright.
Also, I was wondering if I should have him searching for his old crew or building a new one of his own.
thoughts?
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>>143664859
Oh so they do have their cook back. I must have misread the chapter. See I thought they were lured into the Seducing Woods by look-alikes.
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>>143661803
>Luffy defeats Big Mom
>Leaves the Charlotte family in charge so that there's no power vacuum
>No one outside of Totland learns about Big Mom being taken down
>Luffy didn't even want to rule anything anyhow
>SHs go to Wano
>They defeat Kaido with the help of the samurai, Minks, remnants of the Whitebeard Pirates, Moriah and whoever Killer found to help his husbando
>Whitebeard Jr. arc
>after a brief fight Luffy convinces him to disregard his mom and go after what he wants - which is Blackbeard
>with a full set of crewmates, Luffy finds Shanks
>They fight, Shanks said they would in chapter 1 so they do
>After being beaten, Shanks swears loyalty to Luffy and unveils the fourth Road Poneglyph
>The two crews go to Raftel
>Blackbeard follows them
>they land on Raftel, find the One Piece and the Real Poneglyph
>Robin reads it, the crews learn about all the shit that the World Government did during the Void Century
>shit ain't tight, yo
>BB attacks, takes them by surprise
>Manages to beat them and takes them to Mariejois, crashing the Reverie to announce his becoming the Pirate King
>The execution of the SHs and the Red-Hairs is televised
>EVERYBODY EVER SHOWS UP
>All the named Navy people are there to protect MJ, as are the Impel Down staff, to watch the prisoners
>Whatever's left of the Shichibukai
>All the representatives of Strawhat-friendly countries are there already
>Fucking Wapol is there, trying to fuck over Sakura Kingdom, but whatever
>The Revolutionaries come in (Sabo needs to take on Stelly, that cunt)
>Straw Hat Grand Fleet (Leo must learn that Mansherry is just playing tsundere eventually)
>Law and his crew
>Zounisha and the Minks
>The Kujas, the New Kamas
>Weevil, I guess
>Laboon circumnavigates through half the world to save Luffy and Brook, because he won't fucking let the World Government make those two break both their promises at the same time
>Rayleigh make some calls and puts the band back together
>FUCKING ORO JACKSON OUT OF NOWHERE
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>>143665043
>They manage to save the prisoners
>Luffy finally gets to beat Magellan
>Luffy punches BB so hard he vomits out the rest of the Whitebears, who were in his Black Hole the whole time
>Or maybe it's Bonney, let's give her some closure
>Either way, the Whitebeards are all together again, for the most part
>Luffy grabs the mike, gives it to Robin
>She tells everybody in the world about what WG did
>drops the mike
>that causes a rift in the Navy
>the ones still loyal under Akainu now have to fight thier brothers, led by the Fujitora, Garp, Smoker and Coby, who's probably gonna be a Rear Admiral at that point
>Law steals this super-hidden Mariejois treasure Doffy mentioned
>It'll become plot relevant in some way, iunno
>Anyways, Luffy finally gets to beat Akainu, as well
>but he probably gets hit hard
>Law sacrifices his life to do that OP OP thing Doffy wanted him to do, and saves Luffy
>Luffy tells everyone to run from MJ, and then crashes it into Fishman Island
>it's okay though, Shirahoshi ordered the Neptunians to evacuate FI and take them all on board Noah
>Monkey D. Luffy, the Captain of the Straw Hat Pirates, toppled the World Government, creating a new era in geopolitics
>Everyone agrees he's the Pirate King
>The Navy gets reformed and decides to create a new way of classifying pirates
>they create a separate category for adventurers who only want to follow their dreams, like Pirate King Luffy and his buddies
>Meanwhile, after witnessing firsthand what "Candy Lover" Chopper really can do, someone in the bounty poster department raises his bounty from the partly sum he has to several hundred million Beli
>After he finishes the poster, he's reminded that SHs are "the good ones", so he throws the poster away
>Luffy and the crew go back to Foosha Village
>Luffy leaves a huge pile of treasure in front of Makino's bar to settle his tab
>The epilogue shows the SHs visiting all the places they have been to, to leave the readers with warm and fuzzy feelings.
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>>143665043
>>They defeat Kaido with the help of the samurai, Minks, remnants of the Whitebeard Pirates, Moriah and whoever Killer found to help his husbando

As if it would be that quick. First they have to deal with the Shogun that is ruling Wano. Kaido is somewhere else drinking booze
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>>143664915
I say new crew cause having some OC guy be under some no name crew is a waste of character. Eh, ye, his old crew got their money and they retired cause New World was tough. Bam. So have Noose Mcgee find some new guys that survived executions in weird/lucky ways. Luffy can relate to that.
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>>143660101
What else do you expect them to do? Live on a supposed happy island full food or be food for kaido and god knows what else out there? She would be the least evil if you don't want to get dicked in the grand line
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>>143664822
The wood is alive, and pudding is supposed to be a resident. You would think the island wouldn't attack pudding herself, therefore making the bimbo think it is safe for everyone
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>>143665238
Sweet!
I'll call them the Noose Neck pirates!
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>>143665337
>You would think the island wouldn't attack pudding herself
Why?
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>>143664862
>it failed
Ok and look why it failed. 1) viola still wasn't loyal. If she was sanji would have died 100% 2) he didn't anticipate sabo joining the tournament. Jesus would have got ace devil fruit at least then since luffy would have left 3) he didn't expect jola to be stupid enough to fall for a obvious lie or that ship crew would have all been dead. 4) he didn't expect sugar to fall for a shitty gag/asspull. If not for that then luffy and law would have dead.

His plan was actually a good one and had all the right stuff, he just didn't expect the unexpected. While this BM trap is just stupid and makes absolutely no sense
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>>143664822
I believe that Pudding is lying, but I have to say that Nami herself said that they were late for the meeting, tho.

Let's wait and see what's going to happen.... In two weeks. rest well, oda ;_;
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>>143664932
Oh you did misread, because luffy said they were there.
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>>143665484
Because that's big mom daughter on her fucking mom island. The creatures in the forest doesn't even look particularly intelligent as seen with the big ass croco, that for some reason stopped attacking them
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>>143665495
>While this BM trap is just stupid and makes absolutely no sense
kek okay
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>>143665575
Ah and the SHs met with them then, right?
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>>143665596
>send them to a trap for no reason instead of just killing him
>send them to a not so deadly forest
>send one subordinate to kill them all
Plus what if they had just listened to nami and went back to the shore to wait? Then what? Would that mean her whole plan was BTFO?
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>>143665554
They were a few minutes late yet Luffy still manages to see them

So Pudding and Sanji disappear and lure the SHs into the woods because they weren't on time?
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>>143665664
They were late, a lot of things could have happened. Oda wouldn't just throw that out there for no reason
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How many days are we away from the Wedding? Two days?

Since they spent one day sailing to Whole Cake Island, I assume we are actually only one day away, so shit is about to get started and Big Mom has everything under control, with Jimbe having to deal with the dart board and the SHs lost in the woods

Oh god
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>>143665716
>what if
i don't know. what if?
>>143661573
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>>143665764

>>143665733
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>>143665448
Or the Noose Naysayers

I don't even know if "naysayer" works in this context.
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>>143665778
>dart board
And here I thought it was some kinda Wheel of Torture kinda thing. I mean, they even call it a "roulette".
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>>143665794
ok then explain how pudding knows so much about sanji if she never met him.
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>>143665921
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>>143665840
alot of things could have happened. They could have ran off since they were being chased, we still have yet to see the pudding clone that was there in that case. Oh but let me guess "she's not needed" is that your excuse
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>>143666115
>They could have ran off since they were being chased
Sanji looks like he's really being chased.
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>>143665904
I think it is just a mistranslation since it looks nothing like a proper roulette
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>>143666115
> Oh but let me guess "she's not needed" is that your excuse
No but it's Oda's.
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>>143665976
Oh yeah you're right because I totally see that he's a chef, a gentleman, a smoker, and would marry her but can't since he wants to go back to his crew.
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>>143665921
How does Big Mom know everything about everyone?
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>>143665554
Hopefully Vizanon delivers tomorrow. Niggerstream was awful this week
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>>143666253
That sanji isn't with a pudding now is he
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Do you think Oda make shit up as the manga go along, or he has all the stories and characters stories already set in stone?

Because for some reason, i just can't see this sekrit assassin sanji family happening unless it is to pad up arcs. I know there was foreshadowing with the wanted posters, but it wasn't like some of the other strawhats had unique ones made for just comedy sake.
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>>143666352
>a smoker
nigger are you blind?

>Your fiance is chef of the Strawhat Pirates, Sanji Vinsmoke

>would marry her but can't since he wants to go back to his crew.
We've been over this faggot. She only said that after his crew shows up to save him.
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>>143666367
She's a yonko but that has nothing to do with my question. Show how does pudding know sanji personality and hobbies?
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>>143666429
....???
So are you saying that Sanji alone is luring his friends into the forest?
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>>143666266
Didn't Viz say roulette too? Maybe it's Oda just picking an English word that sounded kinda right.
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>>143666491
>She's a yonko but that has nothing to do with my question
It absolutely does. That yonko told her daughter about her fiance.
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>>143666352
>want to marry you but I can't
They know he is a womanizer and would marry any pretty girl. They also know he would chose his friends over any random pretty girl.


Is not rocket science anon.
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>>143666491
If only Pudding and Big Mom were related in some way, we could make the conjecture that Pudding knew that stuff because Big Mom told her.
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>>143666491
>Mother talks to Daughter about future husband
WOAAAHHHH, MY FUCKING MIND IS BLOWN, DUUUUDE

Come on now.
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Did we forget how completely out of character it is for Sanji to reject a woman? The crew even seemed shocked that that happened.

Hell, even in Dressrosa when Viola was seducing him he was already practicing his goodbye to Nami and Robin.

Literally everything Pudding describes about him could be derived from the wanted poster.

Curly eyebrows, heart shaped eyes, black legs? (Which is the title on his wanted poster above all things.)
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>>143666458
>your fiancé is the chef of the strawhats
>she only said that after she met the crew

Anon You're basically giving off "ifs" . You don't know if BM told her sanji was a chef and you're basically saying "what if she put it together that he would marry her but rather go back to his crew since they came for him." You don't have proof of this besides your head canon so you can deny the obvious and explain your theory. Plus oh let me guess BM told her that sanji was a gentleman also.
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>>143666729
They are supposed to have grown up out of their "flaws" post time skip. That's why he got sent to a tranny island
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>>143666549
>what if BM her: the post
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>>143667102
*Told her
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>>143666729
Sanji has learned that the mission is more important than the woman. By going on the journey with his friends he is likely to find a new woman regardless.

It applies to real life as well, like a stupid person dropping out of high school to support his girlfriend. Then he's surprised when she dumps him later due to him being a loser with no education or job.
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>>143667003
>Anon You're basically giving off "ifs"
Okay since a mom discussing details of marriage with her daughter is too much for you, let's stick to what we know.

>Pudding said to meet on the southwest coast and gave them a route to reach the coast without being seen,
>Pudding and Sanji are seen then mysteriously disappear and the SHs are lured into the deadly forest by Sanji.
>Big Mom subordinate happened to be in the forest and tried to kill Nami.
>The forest is sentient and intends to keep the SHs in there until they die.
>Pudding is nowhere to be seen

She did not deliver the Sanji to the Strawhats as promised. The Strawhats are now lost in a deadly forest after following directions that Pudding gave them.
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>>143666432
A bit of both.
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>>143666504
>Real Sanji and Pudding are in the forest
>Clone Sanji is messing with Luffy
Are you really struggling to grasp at that alternative? It's not really that far fetched
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>>143666634
You're acting like BM has to talk to her about her fiancé. BM clearly isn't your normal mother and I doubt she honestly cares if you want to marry the person or not. So stop making it seem like it's a for sure thing BM talked to her about him. Unless I skipped a chapter where they hand a conversation
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>>143667037
Nigga, what? They're supposed to be stronger. That's literally it.

Luffy is still an idiot who loves met to unhealthy degress
Zoro is still an alcoholic, broken GPS, smug marimo
Usopp is still a coward that yells at shit
Nami is still a money hungry bitch
Sanji is still an ultimate pussy chaser
Chopper still can't take compliments, gets scared easily
Robin is still shit at drawings.
Franky is still a pervert
Brook is still a pervy grandpa.

But they all got strong. That was the entire point.
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>>143667383
Speed reader confirmed
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>>143667288
You're forgetting
>Some force is capable of cloning people (Luffy)

We do not know if Pudding tricked them so that's a what if. Another what if is that Pudding was unable to make it to the shore and the Pudding and Sanji seen so far are clones.
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>>143667037
Not really their major character flaws are still there and in Sanji's case it's probably even more apparent. He didn't see a woman in 2 years and that made him even more desperate.
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>>143667358
See this anon gets it
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>>143667358
>It's not really that far fetched
>>>
and do you know what's less far fetched?
The Strawhats were lured into the Seducing Woods from the getgo.
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>>143667438
As someone who regularly uses the term where it actually applies. Please do not besmirch it by throwing it at any situation where you made a claim you cannot defend.
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>>143667288
Why did it try to kill Nami?
Is it because Sanji said he wouldn't marry her because he loves Nami? Is that why they are trying to get rid of Nami?
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>>143667463
>We do not know if Pudding tricked them so that's a what if
So someone else must have known the Strawhats were headed to the southwest coast to pick up Sanji. Which means that Pudding snitched.
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>>143667507
I don't care about your shit flinging argument. The poster I replied to was incapable of comprehending the point the other anon was making when it seemed obvious to me. I was only taking the chance to call the poster a retard.

When the chapter in question had two Luffy's confronting each other, it's baffling that someone seems to think the Sanji we saw was the real one without even acknowledging the other possibilities.
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>>143667553
But it does apply because to you because your definition of character development involves characters getting stronger in a fight. Pay more attention to the dialogue post timeskip and you'll see plenty of development.

Luffy is treated more like a captain.
Usopp is more true to himself (hence why he developed haki).

etc etc
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>>143667566
Might be just an edgy bunny desu
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>>143667486
>Pudding says to meet on southwest coast
>Is not aware of Seducing Woods
>Gets trapped along with the SHs despite every effort to deliver Sanji safely
>Some third party has been following Pudding to know of her plans with Sanji on the southwest coast
>Random third party lures SHs into forest, completely unrelated from Pudding's instructions

come the fuck on.
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>>143667288
> a mother can't discuss wedding details with her daughter
My thing is you literally have no proof of them having a conversation besides you're own logic of "this should happen" or "what if this happened". You're acting like it's impossible that big mom wouldn't talk to her daughter about the wedding.

And if we're going off facts from what we read and not our head logic then.
>pudding saved luffy and co
>she gave them a map to the island so they wouldn't be caught or blown out the water
> she met sanji and he said the exact same thing he told Vito
> her and sanji both was waiting at the shore but then something caused them to disappear
>the woods are called seducing woods
> she never said anything about going into the woods
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>>143667633
So you are making a random point, unrelated to the context of the topic?
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>>143667601
>Pudding heads to coast
>Others pick up on it and cut her off
or
>Pudding heads to coast
>gets delayed because she's supposed to bring the groom as well which could easily draw attention
>others notice SHs and plan accordingly

I'm not saying it's impossible for Pudding to be a traitor, but it's just as easy to say she's not. She is a daughter of Big Mom, was travelling through her territory, has special attention paid to her as a soon to be bride, and promised to bring Sanji there when he's probably not just sitting around in the middle of nowhere. Plenty could have happened to lead to others being aware that the SHs were going to touch down on the shore line.

Everything regarding the forest itself is also thrown out since we know for sure that clone shenanigans are afoot. Nothing is certain.
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>>143667822
>You're acting like it's impossible that big mom wouldn't talk to her daughter about the wedding.
....do I really have to explain how retarded you sound
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>>143667822
>she didn't say don't go in the woods
She didn't say shit about it that's the problem.. She could've said becareful don't go in those woods. They will trap you. She didn't mention shit though
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>>143667645
>you
Anon is not one person new friend. I saw you calling some a speedreader, followed the chain, and saw no real reason to accuse someone of being a speed reader when you were the one who made too tall a claim to be satisfied.
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>>143655078
>Pudding is ugly as fuck.

What the fuck are you smoking?
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>>143667847
>>Others pick up on it and cut her off
>>gets delayed because she's supposed to bring the groom as well which could easily draw attention
>others notice SHs and plan accordingly

or, and just follow me here,

Pudding successfully lured the SHs into the Seducing Woods.
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>>143667833
>random point
>unrelated to the context
You shouldn't use words you don't understand anon. My point was not at random and completely in context, I'm just not concerned with arguing beyond the confines of the post I replied to. Reread the post you replied to if you're still confused.
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>>143667999
She is, when you compare her to Hancock,Robin,Bonney,Baby 5, Vivi. I can go on all night.
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Carrot is the true traitor
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>>143668013
>"I'm not saying it's impossible for Pudding to be a traitor, but it's just as easy to say she's not."

Look autismo, I know it's hard to follow conversations, but you need to take the time to actually process what you're reading before you make a retard out of your self. You might as well be throwing a tantrum since I already made it clear that I consider it a possibility. Your post is literally worthless as anything but a show of your own stupidity/lack of reading comprehension.
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>>143667645
Nigger, I never claimed that the Strawhats didn't get any character development. But the phrase "They are supposed to have grown up out of their "flaws" post time skip" is objectively false. The flaws are still there and still blatant. But that is what makes those chracters them. If Luffy was smart and all serious he wouldn't be Luffy any more. If Usopp was fearless and unbeatable, if Sanji wasn't thirsting for girls, if Zoro wasn't lost 24/7, etc. The point of the fucking timeskip wasn't to get rid of those. That was my point. And I call all those "flaws" because you characterise Sanji's horniness as one.
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>>143668096
Don't forget Praline, Shirahoshi, Tashigi and Kalifa
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>>143667760
Or
>she knows how the seducing woods work and aren't worried about them
>she didn't tell the SH about it since They wouldn't have a need of going into them.
>rabbit guy is hot on her and sanji trail and since the SH are late they just have no choice but to run
> the place is called seducing woods. As in they're seducing.
We can clearly see by the last page that they killed before. So it wouldn't be surprising if the woods their selves lured luffy and co in. Now tell me that isn't plausible at all
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>>143668096
>Hancock

Yeah, I agree on this one.

>Robin

Yeah, no.

>Bonney

I agree on this one as well

>Baby 5

Hell no.

>Vivi

Ir you are taking Vivi post-time skip, then maybe.

Anyway, the is point is that you say she is ugly, which obviously isn't true at all m8.
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>>143668056
>Sanji and Pudding are being chased

>Pic of Sanji lounging

>That sanji isn't with a pudding now is he

>So are you saying that Sanji alone is luring his friends into the forest?

>Real Sanji and Pudding are in the forest
>Clone Sanji is messing with Luffy
>it's not farfetched

>and do you know what's less far fetched? The Strawhats were lured into the Seducing Woods from the getgo.

>I don't care about your shit flinging argument.

So you are just asserting the possibility of Sanji having a clone messing with Luffy while the real Sanji is trapped in the forest as well? Okay...
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>>143668194
>>143668096
Lads, come on. Just because she isn't 10/10 doesn't mean she's ugly. She's at least 7.5 or above. Ugly should be 5 or below.
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Pudding will marry Sanji and join the Strawhats
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>>143665896
how about the Long Hanging Pirates?
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>>143667914
It's BM, the same person pudding said her kids knew she only wanted them for her own gain. The same person who killed her own son and has yet to show a ounce of remorse. So for BM just to say " youre marrying vinsmoke boy" and that be the end of it isn't crazy at all. You just want to find a logical excuse for your "if"
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>>143668317
>implying Big Mom will let her
>Implying daddy Vinsmoke and Sanji's siblings will let him do the same
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>>143668260
>>she knows how the seducing woods work and aren't worried about them
>>she didn't tell the SH about it since They wouldn't have a need of going into them.
>> the place is called seducing woods. As in they're seducing.

>this place on the southwest coast is very dangerous and will try to lure anyone in if they are not careful.
>i dont need to warn the SHs about that
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>>143668378
it fits with the noose theme and their captain being long!
ACCEPTED!
plus I like the Innuendo!
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>>143668152
you are very smart and present yourself in a calm and collected fashion
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>>143668260
Except she did have to tell them because she knew they would get seduced in there. You just don't leave that kind of information out. It's too dangerous, unless you want them to go in the forest.
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>>143668479
>Implying they won't run away together
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>>143668317
No
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>>143668454
>So for BM just to say " youre marrying vinsmoke boy" and that be the end of it isn't crazy at all

>you're marrying sanji vinsmoke, chef of the strawhat pirates
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>>143668536
I bet the Marines will call that executioner "Loose Hanging" Lawrence.
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I think an Anon brought this point up in the last thread. It was that Laboon should know that Brook is still alive/coming to meet him since Crocus could have shown off brooks new wanted poster or newspapers articles.

I was just thinking, what if Crocus has seen the papers/posters and has decided not to tell Laboon? Not in a bad way, but a "Let it be a surprise way"?
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>>143668486
>let me warn them that they could be lured into the seducing woods despite the fact that they're just suppose to be picking sanji up from the shore with me there

Like I said no need.
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>>143668267
>>143668275
Ugh yes she is ugly when there are literally 10/10 in this manga. Fuck off.
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>>143668631
>I bet the Marines will call that executioner
do you mean "I bet the Marines will call him "Loose Hanging" Lawrence"?
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>>143668635
It'd be cool, I guess?

Not entirely sure what you want us to say. I'd be crying at the reunion either way so it makes no difference to me,
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>>143668673
>Like I said no need.
So are the Strawhats trapped in the Seducing Woods right now?
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>>143668536
>His Crew won't shut up about how "Long" he is
>Everyone takes it the wrong way until he shows up in his 15 foot tall glory
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>>143668724
No, cause the executioners knot/noose wasn't tight enough.
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>>143668553
Why would she tell them when she would be there with them? She just didn't anticipate getting chased.
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>>143668827
>She just didn't anticipate getting chased.
Who is chasing her?
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>>143668728
Just seeing what everyone else thinks. But yeah, Either way there's gonna be tears when those two meet again.
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>>143668825
ah, that makes sense
the "Lawrence" at the end threw me off!
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>>143668790
>are they trapped
Yeah, but pudding and sanji could be too
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>>143668930
>Yeah, but pudding and sanji could be too
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>>143668548
Was what I said at all wrong?
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>>143668856
The rabbit guy and that's why he could be in the woods
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>>143668965
>Pudding could be a traitor but she could also not

You've made a neutral claim. You're no more wrong than you are correct.
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>>143668617
>you're marrying sanji vinsmoke, chef of the SH
citation? If you don't have one you're basically claiming a "If" as proof.
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>>143668984
>Pudding could be good
>Pudding could have left out info Seducing Woods for good reasons
>Pudding and Sanji disappearing and luring the SHs into the forest could be good reasons
>Rabbit guy that attacked Nami could be looking for Pudding and Sanji

or and just follow me here
Pudding could have successfully lured the Strawhats into the Seducing Woods.
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>>143668272
The context was Sanji and Pudding actually being in the forest. The poster I replied to assumed that the Sanji in the pic he linked was the real Sanji. I mocked him for making such a post for a chapter involving doppelgangers. Did I really have to spell it out for you three times? That's pathetic.
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>>143668957
>they couldn't be
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>>143669194
I was using your argument format there...
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>>143668930
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>>143669202
>could have left out the seducing woods for good reason
Where did I claim it was a good reason? I just said I wasn't needed

>pudding successfully lured them into the forest
ok if it proves she didn't and she's not lying will you admit that you're autistic for thinking this?
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>>143669059
Yes, and the poster I replied to had the impression that I did not when I made it blatantly clear in the first sentence of my post. Like I said, I'm not wrong in mocking the post in question.

If we want to go further back into the reply chain, the posts I were replying to were not neutral and were instead on the side of Pudding being a traitor. I was pointing out that it was flawed thinking through my neutral stance.

I'm glad that you took your first step, but you seemed to have stopped there instead of catching up completely. Feel free to re read the posts, since having to spoonfeed only requires more effort from both parties.
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>>143669207
>The poster I replied to assumed that the Sanji in the pic he linked was the real Sanji

You're an idiot for assuming that. This is why I said your point was unrelated. I've been arguing under the premise that Pudding set a trap for the Strawhats and led them into the forest via doppelgangers.

For you to come in and assert that the real Sanji could be out there in the forest as well is nonsense in that context.
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>>143669425
>Yes, and the poster I replied to had the impression that I did not
This is not true. I just reasserted the claim I have been making since the beginning.
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>>143669408
when will you let up? The Strawhats are in the Seducing after following the instructions Pudding gave them.

Pudding promised to bring Sanji to southwest coast. Pudding failed on that promise. Pudding lied.
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>>143669239
>Pudding doesn' know about the Seducing Woods
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>>143669464

>>143666115
>poster claims that the real Sanji is in danger

>>143666253
>reply with a pic of a different character with a file name "Sanjiindanger"
>with the text being "Sanji look like he's really being chased"

>>143666429
>reply is anon making a point that the person in the pic is not Sanji

>>143666504
>pic poster replies with "So are you saying that Sanji alone is luring his friends into the forest?" which in the context of the prior post implies that pic poster believes Sanji in pic to be real Sanji

>>143667358
>makes clear that the pic is entirely irrelevant to what anon was saying

>>143667486
>acknowledges that pic poster was miscomprehending as well and that the point I was making was the point he was making

This is now the fourth time I had to break this down for you. You can backpedal all you want. The picture posted was entirely irrelevant to >>143666115
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>>143669552
So explain to me the purpose of
>>143668013
when the first sentence of
>>143667847
Is a shortened version of what >>143668013
bothered to post. Tell me why you felt the need to reassert a claim in reply to a post that already made that exact claim. Like I said in, >>143668152 reasserting your claim was worthless because I already acknowledged and accepted it. If you can actually show where the value in that post is, feel free to prove me wrong. All you did was reply with >>143668548
which is basically "u mad?"
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>>143669844
>The picture posted was entirely irrelevant to >>143666115

then i guess that's where i was wrong.
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>>143669972
>Tell me why you felt the need to reassert a claim in reply to a post that already made that exact claim.
By reasserting my claim, I was disregarding the other end of your neutral statement.
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>>143669985
And only after being told that in
>>143666429
>>143667358
>>143667486
>>143667633
>>143668056
>>143669207
>>143669844

It took you awhile, but you finally made it to Grade Three reading comprehension.
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>>143670085
are you super proud of yourself now?
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>>143670045
>I was disregarding part of your statement by acknowledging a point you already stated was irrelevant

Try again. I already covered that in >>143669425
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>>143670130
More like super disappointed that you needed me to waste that much time to get such a simple point through your head. It baffled me enough that I really needed to drive home how stupid you are. I know people can be bullheaded but you're certainly up there
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>>143670165
>Try again
uhm fuck off?
That's what I was doing regardless of what you say.
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>>143670208
wew you got me
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>>143669620
> they followed her instructions
> she told them to run into a forest
Sure they did anon. So their shouldn't be a problem if you're so sure that she's lying. All I want is for you to admit that you're autistic for thinking she is lying and luring them into traps. Once it gets proven she isn't
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>>143663648
He forgot that he had drawn Usopp's mother and said in an interview he'd never drawn a Straw Hat's parent until Robin.
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>>143670280
>Doppelgangers didn't lure the Strawhats into the forest
>Pudding was on the coast
>Strawhats have their cook and are on their Wano
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>>143670230
>That's what I was doing regardless of what you say.
What a worthless comment. No shit that's what you were trying to do. "Trying" is the operative word. I was saying that it holds no value because, if you actually read my post and understood it, you would have realized that I already shot down that argument. As I've said several times. What you were doing was meaningless. The value you put to that post was false.
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>>143670423
Pudding lied and set a trap.
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>>143666319
So are we all in agreement that Pudding's slime can mirror other people like Ditto?
Kaga Kaga no mi, maybe? Higher version if Bentham.
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>>143670376
> avoiding my questions: the post
Ok I'm done arguing because you clearly wont change your mind and acting like what you think is already set in stone. So will you or will you not admit that you're autistic if you're proven wrong?
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>>143671252
> if you're proven wrong?
I'm confused. Did the Strawhats get their cook back?
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>>143671348
You're still avoiding the question. It's a simple yes or no
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>>143671396
>Draws hard line between southwest coast and seducing forest
>Flails for any reason Pudding wouldn't mention the woods to the SHs
>Dismisses Pudding's absence and doppelgangers as 'could be something else'
>Dismisses the BM lackey in the forest trying to kill the SHs

and you accuse me of autism.
im not going to answer your baited question.
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>>143671533
Don't argue with miss fatty. She is delusional.
She will get BTFO. Pudding definitely snitched. Ugly ass hoe
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>>143671533
>you're accusing me of autism
>you must be baiting
Im not baiting. But you seem so sure that pudding is lying and lured them into a trap, then you shouldn't have a problem agreeing to it. if you're wrong and oda shows that pudding has been telling the truth and didn't set traps then you just have to post that you were autistic for even thinking she was a trader. Oh but that's right just like every other lyingfag you can't since you know there is still a chance that she really isn't s trader
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>>143671590
It's not a argument I been ended that. I just want lyingfags to admit that they are autistic once they're proven wrong. Let me guess you're going to say the same thing "oh no I can't agree to something like that because i know I'm right"
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I don't even know what is the point of discussing about Pudding so aggressively since it will take at least 3 weeks more for we to discover if she was planning to trap the SH or if she was legitemaly wanting to help them.

Chill out, guys.
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>>143672207
>takes 3 weeks to find out
Who knows, oda showed her and the vinsmokes earlier then expected
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>>143672273
I am just assuming that next chapter will be about them discovering that Sanji was an illusion and who is behind the clone Luffy and the one next would be showing what's up in the castle with Big Mom
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>>143672207
Chinese comics are serious business, anon.
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>>143672320
Yeah I can actually see that
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>>143657045
A thing to remember is that kids read this series, and Oda's always known it. If a character's a bastard, he'll let you know.
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>>143660657
The first thing you saw after Sabaody was the Supernovas in the New World, and they were all getting their asses kicked.
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I've seen 0 One Piece movies. I'm going to change that tonight. Which one should I watch first? I'm thinking about starting with movie 6. Which one do I avoid? Which ones should I watch for sure?
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>>143674406
Blackbeard seemed more or less like a nice fellow the first time we met him.
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>>143652794

THE INVINCIBLE CAPTAIN JACK
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>>143675006
He was shown off as an admirable guy, but also a suspicious one, and it took no time at all for the manga to confirm he was a ripe bastard.
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>>143674855
Watch 6 for sure; 4, Strong World and Z are good bets if you're a fan

7 has it's moments

The rest whatever, you might get a kick out of them though they're more like TV specials
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>>143660657
>the face of someone who is doing just fine in the new world
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>>143658086
>>143657468
>>143657045

IT WAS ME! IT WAS ME, LUFFY! IT WAS ME. ALL. ALONG, LUFFY! YOU ALL BOUGHT IT! YOU ALL BOUGHT IT! HOOK! LINE! AND SINKER! YOUR WHOLE CREW BOUGHT IT! EVEN MY COUNTRYMEN! EVEN MY MINK COUNTRYMEN BOUGHT IT! EVERY DAMN ONE OF YOU WERE MADE FOOLS OF!
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>>143675986
AWW SONNUVABITCH!
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>>143676033
WHAT?!
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Carrot a cute
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>>143670312
Forgetting something in an interview and forgetting something during his big story are two different things, especially when the latter has given him years to rectify any mistake, or hell make something new if he has to.
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>>143677301
I want to give her headpats
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>>143675902
>His smile and optimism: gone

I wanna know what's living on Raijin Island
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>>143658361
Vegapunk is a big guy.
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>>143677301
Sauce without the black spots? Google couldn't find it.
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>>143678818
Judging from the filename I think it's from paheal.
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>>143678818
Go search for Carrot on r34. You'll get some fun results.
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>>143663163
I just watched a man draw for an hour.

Is there more?
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>>143667037
Nami has been super nice with people in need before the timeskip, like when she helped Lola and gave her treasure.

Mom is probably like Nami. Sometimes allowing others to follow her golden rule of freedom and other times putting her own needs over those of others.

If Lola still thinks highly of mom despite ditching her crew then that means they left in good terms.
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>>143667383
How are Luffy's meat loving and Franky's perverted style supposed to be flaws?
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>There are people who think Zolo's backstory and Kunia's death wasn't sad at all
There is nothing more sad for a warrior than dying from some petty shit like stairs instead of some opponent or enemy.
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>>143652794
Is this game any good?

Are trash mobs supposed to be challenging? I'm not super familiar with this genre.
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>>143681209
The point of musou is the cathartic fun of sending hundreds of mooks flying with each of your attacks. It's not hard, but it sure is fun.
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>>143681264
I can see where you're coming from. But is there any sort of standard fighting game challenge?

Or is it just beat goons over and over again until your bloodlust is satiated?
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>>143681300
Well there are other characters that are stronger than mooks and there are bosses, but they're still pretty easy, though that depends on your character and his level. If you want fighting, go for Burning Blood.
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>>143681358
Thanks I guess I'll go for BB then.
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>>143681300
Nightmare log is pretty challenging imo
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>>143681427
Not if you use Whitebeard or Fujitora, the R1 brothers.
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>>143660738
The New World is part of the Grand Line, stupid.
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>>143660738
Grand line is crazy compared to East Blue. New World is crazy compared to paradise. It's all about comparison.
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>>143657322
That guy was VERY shifty looking. Oda isn't normally good at hiding when a character is despicable. Especially when he has an ugly mobster face, and was in the room with them when Pudding told them about it.
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Prediction for the next chapter:

The chapter opens with Luffy and Co. encountering all sorts of dangers.
Nami has to stop them from dying.
Finally expresses worry that Pudding was lying.
"Whaaaaaat, no way" from Chopper and Carrot.
Luffy tries to deny it at first but Nami convinces him of the possibility.
"Right. Well then we'll just have to fight our way to Big Mom's castle and fight out what's wrong!"
Nami punches Luffy but resigns herself to the fact she can't stop it.

Micro-flashback to just after Pudding arrives on WCI.
Pudding has a mildly worried expression but is otherwise calm.
She meets with her mother or one of the top subordinates.
"So happy for you," etc.
The preparation will take two full days.
"You will be watched at all times and you may not leave your room."
Pudding is shocked.
Panicked, she tries to make some lame excuse but is shot down immediately.
Last panel of flashback is Pudding crying.
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>>143668135
I miss Leslie Nielsen
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Why is the new intro so fucking bad?
christ
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>>143681209
It's fun and on sale on Steam for $12 right now.

>>143682000
I miss the old anime, it looks so god now.
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>>143682000
they haven't been good since hands up. The songs feel so... "generic" for lack of a better term.
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>>143672083
But she is a trader, she owns a cafe on Cocoa Island, we can assume she provides goods and/or services in exchange for money.
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What will your reaction be if jump suddenly told oda to wrap the series in just 3 volumes?
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>>143683534

Won't happen so no reaction.
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>>143683534
it's so unlikely that i can't even imagine my reaction
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>>143665043
I know you're bullshitting, but Rayleight putting the band back together and the Oro Jackson appearing in the present would be a fucking joy to behold.
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>>143683534
That would suck. Luffy and zoro will get powers up and defeat yonkou and admirals in just a few chapters.
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>>143682379
i wonder if they have their own currency in totland. Since they aren't affiliated to the wg it would make sense.

yeah the straw hats bought food in cacao island, but they could accept berry and still have their own currency.
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>>143682379
Well your right then just admit to being autistic if she isnt a traitor
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>>143681856
This is a terrible fanfic.
>they encounter all sorts of danger
>nami saves them
This is where you're story went down hill
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>>143683534
Well, it's possible if Akainu becomes the main character.

Oda said that Akainu as MC could bring One Piece to an end within a year.
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>>143683534
>Oda sensei, we don't have room in our safes for all the money One Piece is bringing in, please hurry up and finish it
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>>143682000
Zou parts are good though.
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>>143683752
I bet you won't think this is bullshit in ten years time when we finally reach this point and everything I wrote will have come true.
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>>143683534
Better question is, how would Oda do it?
>Luffy beats Big Mom
>Road Poneglyph turns out to be a teleporter
>Luffy teleports to Raftel and becomes Pirate King
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post yfw last road poneglyph is on the moon
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>>143684755
He'd try to end it but by the time that number of chapters is up we'd still probably be stuck in the seducing woods.
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>>143684073
Are you the same person that accused others of lacking basic reading comprehension skills?

I'm just here to point and laugh at the retards arguing whether "what if" is better than "could be" and your atrocious spelling of simple words.
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>>143684850
You know, you actually would need only three of the Road Poneglyphs to find Raftel, unless there's some magic bullshit we're not privy to. Let me whip out an explanation in paint, give me a sec.
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>>143684850
I want it will be in Davey Jones' Locker.

Like, the island that was going to have it got swallowed by the sea in the New World parallel to Aqua Laguna. It gives us a good time to reunion with all the people from flashbacks, explore that big sailing lore hotspot, and maybe bring back some peeps if the Revo V. WG war that's bound to happen gets too brutal. So when they find it and read it, they learn the road is to the moon, but only during special lunar periods, adding a ticking clock to their adventures for the final stretch.

I mean, I'd give the entire context to the idea I have for it, but that'd be a MASSIVE wall of text going back to the upcoming post-Yonkou arc.
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>>143684934
That implies that the center point IS Raftel, and not merely a guide TO Raftel or instructions on it. It's like how you're supposed to note ALL the Poneglyphs to get the Rio Poneglyph, where both could also just be found by blind luck if it is just navigation.

There's got to be a code or a purpose to finding all four, just finding the island shouldn't be enough. In fact, I think what would be badass is if someone found the island, and since they didn't have the data for it, they go there, and it's just an empty barren rock. So Luffy gets a splash of doubt in his face when that guy's like 'okay autist you want to find Raftel well here you go let's go there right now... see? NOTHING!!!'

And then, even as they're finding the poneglyphs and making the proper trip to Raftel, there's that nagging doubt like 'what if he's right and there's nothing there? What if this trip is pointless' that colors the future sagas, only to get blissfully relieved when they get there again, and bringing the right stuff makes the whole place come alive or something. You know, ye of little faith stuff. It's what I'd write anyway...
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>>143685075
What if it's at the core of Fishman island and to get it Luffy would need to destroy the island?
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>>143684934
Okay, so as we know, the four Road Poneglyphs point to four points in the world which then point to the location of Raftel. Cat and Dog explained as much in the Whale Tree.
Illustration no.1 is a recreation of what Oda drew when they were talking about it.

Now, say we only had three Road Poneglyphs to work with. The points revealed by those are red, while the one we don't know about is black. You could still draw a line between all three on the points you know and travel from one point to another, and eventually you'd reach Raftel when you'll travel down the diagonal. Obviously the points won't create a perfect square, so there's no telling which two points would be the opposites, so you'd need to travel between all three to be sure.
I think Nami might figure it out after they have seen all three known Poneglyphs and propose to do just that, only for Luffy to object because that would be "cheating".
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>>143685230
>That implies that the center point IS Raftel
It's not necessarily the center, but the point of intersection was literally stated to be Raftel.
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>>143685236
I think the island will be destroyed with the end of the Red Line. See the whole world, as it's currently set up, is running like a giant hydroelectric power plant for whatever alien/devil/god-analogy systems the moons are running on. The currents of the Grand Line and New World, and strange phenomenon are part of this machine being powered, and Luffy will end up breaking the thing and shutting it down. In return the Red Line will get its shit wrecked and fragment into normal continents and islands, taking Fishman Island with it, while making a whole new set of continents and islands and oceans to explore, giving Luffy a whole new set of adventures for his epilogue.
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>>143685444
Well if it is, sorry for speedreading, but it still seems like a stupid thing to have a system where you don't actually need all the Poneglyphs to do. I mean, what sort of stupid system would actually give someone the answer right then and there for not doing everything? A bad system is what. I'm still convinced that you need all four Road Poneglyphs anyway to get the 'whatever' is at Raftel to work right. Dumb luck or systems of elimination should not be able to confound a quest like that.
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>>143685461
While Nami learns that her years of working on a complete map of the world were for naught.
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>>143685868
Don't worry, her beloved Sanji-kun will always be with her and complete each other dreams
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>>143685314
and how do you propose they're going to navigate along those lines? the log poses only point to islands, not points in the middle of the ocean

there'll be some trick to it
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>>143685314
>>143685314
Too drunk to make this make sense but seriously the "only 3 points or 2 points needed" bullshit is seriously starting to get to me.

Why does everyone assume it's on a 2 dimensional plane and not 3d, why does everyone assume it won't require a sky island, a moon, some underwater city, or points OUTSIDE the grand line, or if it won't require the lines of intersection to be done a certain way, won't be behind an illusion or a fucking portal or some fucking shit my god.
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>>143685868
So? Her dream would have to have had gone through every possible Grand Line/New World combination, which was how many different log pose routes there were PLUS all the new world routes. This is actually faster, just dealing with a world of compasses and variable ocean routes.

It's silly to imagine all the Strawhats will or should have their dreams completed IN the series. Some sure, but why not have dreams that compel them to keep sailing even after the manga's done?

My ideal ending is like the end of that one Romance Dawn with Luffy and his crew celebrating and sailing off to new adventures, beyond this Grand Line/One Piece mystery.
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>>143686023
>Why does everyone assume it's on a 2 dimensional plane and not 3d
Because it doesn't fucking matter. You need to mark the locations on a map, and maps are 2D.
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>>143686023
>Why does everyone assume it's on a 2 dimensional plane and not 3d
1. We were told you could draw the points on a map. (This also implies points can't be too far apart, since you brought that up.)
2. If it was 3d then you'd need more than 4 points.

Try using your fucking brain maybe?
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>Nami prevents Sanji from marrying Big Mom by marrying HER, and making Germa 66 as a sort of ally instead
>Sanji thinks it'll be all sunshine and roses now right
>except Nami's classical marriage as in it's a business proposal, as now she has to protect her royal asset from wandering eyes, and keep him from being lecherous around her, and no way is she putting out for him except for mandated children in a few years
>Sanji is now completely bitch-made to Nami, and Nami's just getting to be a richer bitch-er

>LuNafags/ZoNafags/AnyoneelseNaFags BTFO as their ships can't happen
>SaNafags BTFO as now their magical ship is a loveless marriage that only serves for comedic banter
I want it all to burn.
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>>143686515
>>143686519

Not all maps are 2D; and also it doesn't say you can draw it on a map.

The Road Poneglyphs, a set of four special red poneglyphs, each reveal a point on a map of the world once read. When all four points are deciphered, it becomes possible to discern the place at the center of these points where they all intersect, and the true path to Raftel will be made known.

It was stated they reveal a point on A MAP, this doesn't mean all points have to be on the SAME map.

Point on a map of skypeia or another island, point of fishman island or another map, points outside the grand line.

Jesus fuck speed readers bother me.
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>>143686667
>Not all maps are 2D
Care to show a map in One Piece that isn't 2D?
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>>143686667
An example was given to the user and to explain to the crew how 4 points could be arranged, not that they must or ARE arranged in that order.

And also the first point in my image still invalidates 3 points even if the other stuff wasn't valid.
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>>143686657
I can accept this.
Make it happen ODA
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>>143686697
Am I being trolled?

You know cartographers take pride in making sure FUCKING ELEVATIONS ARE A THING IN THEIR MAPS, also globes wouldn't be 3D.

For all we fucking know all 4 islands intersect in the middle of the fucking planet.

I have a feeling you might just be making some snide remark due to the manor that one piece is a manga so nothing's 3d or has depth.
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>>143686764
Globes are 3d I meant.

Accurate cartographer maps are not fucking 2 dimensional.

To be technical the paper they are drawn on is a 2d representation of a 3d replica.

You know. Draw a fucking cube.
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>>143686697
Also here's a 3d map.
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>>143686764
>elevations on a map
>somehow make a paper map 3D
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>>143687015
Yup I was being trolled.

Why the fuck do I fall for this shit.

Maps are 3D, unless they don't account for elevation.

What is a fucking topographical map.
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So if this is Alice in Wonderland arc... who's the Jabberwocky?
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>>143687035
He'll hit the board smack dab in the center
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>>143687086
Pudding
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>>143684890
> accusing others of basic reading comprehension

I don't know what you're talking about and that's a different anon. I'm just trying to see if any lyingfags are willing to admit that they were wrong if it turns out pudding isn't a traitor. But as I said you all make the same excuse up everytime. "I'm right, you're wrong so no I won't admit that." But I do get it, just in case you're wrong you dont want to have to admit to spewing out head canon for weeks now. I'm 100% sure when it's shown pudding isn't a traitor that all lyingfags will suddenly disappear and everyone will start saying how they actually believed in her the whole time
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>>143687071
You dense motherfucker.
Draw some lines on a topographical map, and then draw the same lines on an ordinary map, will there be a difference in how and where they intersect? No. Maps are made of paper. They don't have mountains sticking out of them or ocean floors as depressions.
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>>143687173
carrot and wanda a cute
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>>143687203
I rather pudding and praline
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>>143687194
You realize it says the center intersection between 4 points and shows lines as an example right even though it says once it's deciphered right?

Wanna guess what that might mean?

Regardless at least you admit maps are not 3d. Also depending on geometry used on a map, the intersection might not be accurate.

You do know greenland isn't almost as big as africa right it's actually about 1/7th the size right?

Depending on the type of geometry used, and what benefits you want to take advantage of, maps can be WIDELY inaccurate.

Like it's like you're all fucking 15 and don't know how maps actually work.

Also there is in fact ways to accurately plot intersection points on topographical maps that show a center intersection point that takes into account elevation.

You know what the worst part is? I'M GIVING IDEAS HOW IT MIGHT NOT BE AS EASY AS WHAT PEOPLE ASSUME. IT SAYS YOU NEED ALL 4, SO IF YOU CAN FIND A FLAW THAT SHOWS YOU ONLY NEED 3, YOU PROBABLY AREN'T THINKING ENOUGH.
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>>143687315
Maps are 3d. God damnit i'm a speed typer and i'm making fun of these speed readers.
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Who hype for Chopper fight here

Who hype for Nami new clima-tact shenanigans here

Who hype for Brook vs. Pedro here
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>>143652794
Is OP worth reading?
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>>143686657
This is retarded as it was stated that they have to be blood tied to BM. Stop Changing things so your SANA ship can work. Sanji won't get married and there won't be any inner crew relationships get over it.
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>>143687389
Obviously yes.
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>>143687402
Why do people even want Sanji x Nami?
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>>143687389
Yes. Avoid the anime. Don't even start it, when it starts to turn to abysmal shit it will only be more painful. The anime's only saving grace is voice acting, but you can find that shit on youtube after you read it.
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>>143687457
If you must watch the anime, watch one pace.
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>>143687448
why do people even want anyone x anyone?
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>>143687402
Sisters with Lola, so she's already connected.
I don't even care about the ship, I just want an option where all this 'truu pairring' wars gets reduced to a running gag
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>>143687483
No idea. Oda even said Sanji stinks of fish and cigarettes and smells awful. I think Nami deserves better then that.
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>>143687457
Yeah, was only planning on reading the manga.
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>>143687448
>why do people even want sanjixnami
Because namifags believe that nami needs a man and refuse to imagine her being alone or with another man by the EOS.
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>>143687448
Who knows. Oda straight up said the crew is a family and there wouldn't be any romance between them. But shipperfags will be shipperfags.
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>>143687484
>sister with Lola
That still doesn't make it by blood anon. BM won't even know nami for a whole day.

>I want all truu pairing to be turned into a gag
I don't because 1) that gives shippers their fuel 2) we have no need for it, definitely on the ship 3) just like if sanj married pudding the shipping would throw off his character.

Oda just should keep doing what he's doing and avoiding the romance all together. And by the end of series just have all of them sailing off onto another adventure
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shippers make me sick to my stomach
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>>143687752
I really hope Sanji legit marries pudding.

Honestly why not it solves all their problems at the present time. His family will be happy, big mom will be happy and like other people married it's not like they are forced to stay with big mom or their wife at all times.
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>>143687863
Honestly it crew shippers for me. I mean usoppxkaye shippers has done nothing wrong. And I even don't mind luffyxhancock
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>>143687888
it was already made clear that if he marries her

A: the Straw Hats become Big Mom's subordinates
or
B: Sanji ceases to be part of the crew while the Germa joins Big Mom
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>>143687888
>marrying pudding solves all their problems

Yeah this is true and in theory it sounds good but I don't think it would be that simple. I mean once you marry them you are apart of BM crew and I'm sure she expects things out of you. Plus by how pudding was talking and how praline acts. It's safe to say that BM daughters are some pretty loving people so sanji wouldn't be able to act how he does since I'm sure pudding would treat it as a real marriage. I mean if it was as easy as the, getting married, sanji books with his crew to never be seen again. Then this arc is almost for nothing except them getting the poneglyph. but I agree with you that I hoped they do get married just for the fact that it would stop SANAfags from being cancerous
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>>143687402
LuNafag
>>143687448
Because it will happen, might as well like it now
>>143687513
No, chopper said that and he said they all smell bad. Nami smells like fucking money that shit is nasty. Also Sanji is the only male from the crew that takes showers everyday so he is the most clean one. Fuck off tumblr atleast read the sbs if you want tot shit talk.
>>143687704
No he did not, it was a question asking him who would they be if they were a family. Also Sanji does not treat Nami like a sister, Luffy does.
>>143687888
/r/suicidewatch is that way >>>>
>>143687986
>>143688163
>Speed reading
Please reread when Pekoms literally said big mom doesn't want to make the strawhats her allies. She just wants to tie the Vinsmokes with her.
Pekoms clearly said once Sanji gets married he would no longer be part of the strawhats.
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>>143687513
>Oda even said
>lying
Why would you lie? Haha why are you trying to trick people? What's the purpose?
Chopper answer that and he said they all smell like shit.
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>>143688283
>No he did not, it was a question asking him who would they be if they were a family

That's a different one. Some asked him about romance in the Vol 4 SBS and this is how he replied.

>D: Doesn't anyone on Luffy's crew fall in love? Will there never be a romance among crew members? (Sanji is an exception in this case) I'm just wondering. from Naoko

>O: Of course they're in love... WITH ADVENTURE!
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>>143688283
>LUNAfag
>implying I actually like nami
Wew lad, that's what's wrong with all you nami shippers. You believe she's the only girl in this series apparently. If I call LUNAfags cancerous they call me a SANAfag.
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>>143687315
>Like it's like you're all fucking 15 and don't know how maps actually work.
Its even more embarrassing that you actually can post how they work but lack the brain capacity to realise what that implies with respect to the information in the manga.
>IT SAYS YOU NEED ALL 4, SO IF YOU CAN FIND A FLAW THAT SHOWS YOU ONLY NEED 3, YOU PROBABLY AREN'T THINKING ENOUGH.
You are just trying to overthink it, even if it means ignoring what we have actually been told. However, 3 being enough to find a perimeter that it lies on isn't even a contradiction to what we were told, i.e. that you need 4 to pinpoint the location.
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>>143688558
Where does it say they are all like family?
Also you don't need to ask Oda you can tell who acts like family and who doesn't.
Sanji wants to fuck Nami. Anon it's not normal to want to fuck your sister.


Luffy treats Nami like a sister
Usopp treats Nami like a friend
Zoro treats Nami like an annoying sister
Sanji treats Nami like a friend he wants to fuck
Franky treats Nami like a friend of a friend
Brook is a pervert.
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>>143688558
And someone asked him who was nami in love with on the ship and he replied that there wouldn't be any romance as this is a shonen meant for young boys
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>>143688851
Source or fuck off with your headcanon.
>I can't find it but I did see it
Nah you lying ass nigga
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>>143688283
>sanji would no longer be apart of the strawhats

Who would stop him? As I said the biggest drawback would be that BM might try to call upon you to do her a favor but besides that she's pretty much lets you do whatever you want. That then would only leave the vinsmokes which by how sanji talks he doesn't give a fuck about
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>>143688830
>Sanji wants to fuck Nami. Anon it's not normal to want to fuck your sister.

You know on which site you're on, right? I wouldn't bet against anon thinking it'd be a total normal thing.
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>>143688608
Oh look, it's the "you only need three points" fag.

Crawl back into your hole again would you?
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>>143688918
Fans Chat with Oda Sensei!" Shonen Jump (VIZ) #84. Volume 7, Issue 12

Now your turn to actually go do the research.
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>>143688608
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>>143688969
>who would stop him
Wew, I really have to explain this.

Anon what was stoping Sanji from getting out of capones body? Nami clearly said he could've gotten out if he wanted to.
He went with them because his friends were all in danger if he did not go. That's the same thing that will stop him from going back to the strawhats.
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>>143687173
>spewing out head canon for weeks now
it's not head canon that pudding has suspicious behavior
its not head canon that she failed to mention the seducing woods
its not head canon that she wasnt on the coast
its not head canon that the SHs are trapped in the woods
what IS head canon are your garbage reasons why all of that is happening.
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>>143689068
Anon he went because they told him that that BM would cut someone he loved head off if he doesn't show up to the tea party. He has shown up and if he got married what else would BM need from him really? She's only after the vinsmokes tech, and jinbe has said she gives people their freedom pretty much. She even has shown that she's willing to let jinbe go of course with a price but believes in a man having his freedom no less. So after marrying there is nothing keeping him there
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>>143688969
>>143689068
Also you say big mom would let him do whatever he wants.
Not joint another fucking crew that's not under her nigga. And Pekoms said she is only trying to join up with the Vinsmokes.
Big mom is not going to be like "hey, can you tell the strawhats to join me?"
It's as simple as "oh you got married" you not longer belong to the strawhats.
There's no talking. As soon as he gets married he will leave the strawhats. Pekoms made that very clear
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>>143689137
>she's suspicious
This is headcanon as lyingfags only see her suspicious in their eyes. Not once did any of the strawhats get a suspicious feeling about her, or raise any flags.

>it's not headcanon that she forgot to mention the seducing woods
Ok but it's head canon that she didn't mention it to them so she could lead them into a trap. Unless you have certain proof she did?

>it's not head canon she wasn't on the coast
Well that would be head canon as luffy said he saw her there. It would also be head canon to say it was a clone as you have no real proof of that either.

>it's not head canon that the strawhats are trapped
But it's head canon to say that it is because of pudding.

Now what's not head canon is how you're clearly Afraid to say that you will admit to being autistic if you're proven wrong.
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>>143663623
Who gives a shit how he looks at the girls (same with Luffy), what difference does it make. It's still gross.
Is he your fucking self-insert or something?
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>>143689654
is that all you can say?

>w-well if you're wrong you're autistic!

kek get a new brain or learn to use yours faggot
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>>143689724
How is it gross?
Maybe because that's not your ship?
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>>143666266
>proper roulette
>Wheel of Fortune game show wheel
You're an idiot
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So is the rabbit that attacked Nami still there or did it run away?
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>>143689654
So Pudding telling the SHs to meet on the southwest coast is a separate event from the Doppelgangers on the southwest coast luring the SHs into the Seducing Woods?

Also, Oda is not drawing a distinction between the southwest and the seducing woods. They are one and the same.
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>>143689903
Why is it attacking Nami? Is it because Sanji denied pudding by telling her he loves Nami?
Is that why they are trying to get rid of Nami?
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>>143689759
It's no point in arguing with lyingfags as everything will be suspicious for you and you're always right. So I'm asking for a simple request.m
>new chapter comes out
>pudding is proven to be a honest person
All you have to do after that is just admit that you're autistic for falling for your own headcanon
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>>143668689
>Telling people to fuck off while having such shit taste
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Please Oda, for the love of god, make Nami and Chopper useless in the forest so Carrot can show off.
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>>143690071
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>>143690017
Is this real? I mean having your own personal ship is fine, but to the point where you making up shit out of your personal head canon to justify your ship? That's some next level delusion.
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>>143689654
>Unless you have certain proof she did?
Well the Strawhats are currently on the southwest coast trapped in the Seducing Woods after following Pudding's directions.

> Not once did any of the strawhats get a suspicious feeling about her, or raise any flags.
you are wrong
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>>143690113
What? It's just a theory/question. Because the rabbit clearly attacked Nami.
I did not say it as statement. It was a question to discuss.
Fuck off triggered lunafaggot
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>>143686697
Have you never looked at a fucking topographic map? They're extremely common. They lay flat on the table, but show elevation and depth.
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>>143689904
>so you're telling me pudding telling them to meet on the southwest coast is a different event then the doppelgänger.

She did explain why the southwest coast was the only place they could meet. And you say oda doesn't distinguish between the two but she clearly never said anything about them having to go into some woods(which if she wanted to lead them into a trap in there she would have just told them to go into there). So yes I do believe they're separate things
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>>143686703
(you)
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>>143690031
You realize you have been saying this for weeks? You keep sliding your argument back saying, "it could be something else". That's not an argument. That's being fucking stupid.

Pudding will be shown bowing to Big Mom, thanking her for the marriage and you'll still be arguing that she's a good person.

The Strawhats are TRAPPED in a forest RIGHT NOW after listening to Pudding.


Pudding gives directions to southwest coast ----> SHs follow them ----->Pudding did not deliver Sanji to the SHs like promised ------->SHs trapped in deadly forest

I don't know if it's an extra chromosome that you have or what but this is fact. There is no arguing against this.
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>>143690360
>yeah because "going to the woods" doesn't sound suspicious
Not him but you're dumb. She didn't have to say go in to the woods because they would get lured in.
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Who gives a shit about Pudding?
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>>143690360
>. And you say oda doesn't distinguish between the two but she clearly never said anything about them having to go into some woods
Because she wanted the SHs to get trapped in the woods. Holy shit.
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>>143688918
You've been given source a million times already you dirty fucking assclown. Now fuck-off with your grotesque fucking shipfaggotry to tumblr, and play there.
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>>143690146
>they are trapped in woods after following pudding instructions

Once again this is head canon as she never once said to go into some woods. Her instructions was just to go to the coast where she would be waiting. So please so me proof

>using Pedro for your argument
Anon you're talking about a guy prone to violence even when not needed. But the strawhats their selves never was shown to think that pudding is "kinda suspicious" or showing little alerts that something might be off about her or her story. Which oda usually does for the most part when foreshadowing or dropping hints.
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>>143689785
One looks like an idiot-boy while the other looks like Mr.Pink.
Are you fucking blind?
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>>143690360
So you're pinning your whole argument of innocence on the difference of maybe 15 feet? Because the trees of the Seducing Woods aren't precisely on the coastline, Pudding never intended for the SHs to go there?

The woods can move on their own. Being told to go to the southwest coast is an obvious ploy to get the SHs trapped. And then throw in the doppelgangers that lured them and the case for innocence is slim.
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>>143690768
Sanji is one of the best looking guy in the manga. But I agree Nami is not that great.
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>>143690633
youre wrong again
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>>143690524
Only niggers do not
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>>143690633
>Once again this is head canon as she never once said to go into some woods.
you mean the woods that can move on their own and trap and confuse whoever is in it? Yeah there's no reason to mention that at all...
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>>143687389
if your are into adventure, battle shonens and a lot of worldbuilding then yes.
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>>143689903
I get the impression that
>he's fast!!
so when Carrot out maneuvered him, he took off to regather his composure. He'll be back though.
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>>143690501
>>143690779
>>143690543
>>143690946
>never bringing up the place you want to trap someone in

Anon if you want to trap someone somewhere you have to lead them into the place not just tell them to wait outside the door for you. If she was really trying to trap them she would of just told them to wait for her inside of the forest not that she would be waiting on the coast for them.

Oh look at that(pic related) even nami knows that the coast and the woods Are different . You're clearly refusing to admit that pudding didnt lead them into woods. And for why she doesn't mention talking moving trees. Why would she when she's just there to drop sanji off and leave?
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So amidst all the arguing and bullshit, I've come to inform everyone that the Viz chapter's out. I'll have it up in a little while.
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>>143691226
>If she was really trying to trap them she would of just told them to wait for her inside of the forest not that she would be waiting on the coast for them.
The southwest coast has the seducing woods. The seducing woods can move on their own. Don't try to find an arbitrary distinction between the two to suit your view.

> Why would she when she's just there to drop sanji off and leave?
How is this even an argument. This literally did not happen and the Strawhats are literally trapped in the woods right now.
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>>143691230
Hell yea
wait till next thread though
maybe all of this Pudding shit will be over by then
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>>143691230
let's guess what they''ve gone and changed this time around

i'm gonna say seducing woods becomes the forest of temptation or some shit
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>>143691226
the woods are part of the coast

let's look at it this way then - why didn't she warn them about the woods?
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>>143690871
Anon they're shocked by the statement sanji made and not by her. If they saw sanji say that they would have the exact same reaction. As they're surprise not suspicious. They aren't even questioning it, that's how little of suspicion they have about that comment
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>>143691434
What are you even trying to say with this post? Obviously that didn't happen.
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>>143691782
>They aren't even questioning it, that's how little of suspicion they have about that comment

Do....do you not see the question marks?
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>>143691835
just a guessing game
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Yo guys lets just shitpost to hit the bump limit
A nigga is tryin to read the viz dump before going to his aunties house.
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>>143691973
heh. Nice one. Smooth.
You don't get to guess around me, pal. Tch, that shit doesn't fly.
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>>143691973
I don't think they've ever changed anything written in the roman alphabet if it's the first time that thing has been named.
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>>143691351
>don't find a legit reason to distinguish the two.

Anon yes the woods are on the southwest coast of the island but it's a clear difference between the woods and the shore. You're the one trying to make them both seem as if they're one thing so you can claim that pudding basically told them to go into the woods. We know why that's the only place they could meet, we know that pudding said she would be waiting for them at the coast and not in some woods, and nami even distinguished the difference between them both and told the group to go back to the coast to wait. How much more proof do you need before you stop trying to call them the same thing?

>why is this a argument
Anon pudding seemed pretty confident in the fact that she would be there with sanji meaning that there was no need to tell them about a place where they would have no need to venture into. her telling them would mean that she for some reason believed that there was a chance that they wouldn't meet up.
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>>143692031
We hasnt download it yet though
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>>143692317
>How much more proof do you need before you stop trying to call them the same thing?
The woods not moving on their own would be a good start.

>Anon pudding seemed pretty confident in the fact that she would be there with sanji
So where is she?
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>you will never EVER lick Perona's sweaty dirty sour lolita feet after a hot summer day

;_;
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>>143684602

WHO CAN STOP HIS ABSOLUTE JUSTICE
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>>143691925
>what's a rhetorical questions
Don't act autistic. Theyre clearly not asking that as in "this is suspicious" type way but a " Oh my God that's crazy" way.
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>>143692338
ah my bad. ill read it after blowing shit up then!
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>>143692554
>Theyre clearly not asking that as in "this is suspicious" type way but a " Oh my God that's crazy" way.

what's the difference? does one need to scratch their chin to designate suspicion?
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>>143692574
Just read them on your phone.
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>>143692709
I don't have a smartphone. Just my ol' duraxt flip phone. I love it. except for it being a brick and no internet.
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>>143692460
>the woods not moving on their own
Well they're just bending in, it's not like they're Unrooting their selves and walking around. As I said it's a clear difference between the two that even nami sees but you refuse to admit it since it doesn't help your theory.

>Where is she
Who knows she was there and then she was gone. as I said she didn't expect something to wrong.
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What if reminder that no chapter this week
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>>143692528
Sabo
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why did it have to be break after this chapter of all times? Now we'll have to deal with this lying/truthfags-shit for 2 weeks
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>>143692816
Do you actually have trouble seeing? The roots are shown. The trees are walking.

>>143689904
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>>143692662
>doesn't know the difference between surprise and suspicious

Wew lad, do you need to be spoon fed? how can you not tell the difference between a suspicious reaction and a surprise reaction?
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>>143692924
There's only 1 truthfag. Only one that's argues atleast. He is wrong though
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>>143692960
Do you have trouble admitting there's a difference even when a character said so? >>143691226
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>>143670312
Yasopp was introduced before his mother though.
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>>143670312
In that case he forgot Dragon too
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>>143681209
Yes, it's fun although it'll skip some minor details in order to condense the series.

It's fun just knocking back tons of pirates or marines back, although I just finished the episode where Usopp rejoins the crew, and hopefully this game has the post-timeskip material (there's a reference to God Usopp for Usopp if you check the level screen/coin screen).
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>>143652794
last weeks chapter was so shit considering what we have had for the last couple of months
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>>143693219
>avoiding the question

the southwest coast and secuding woods are one and the same. Nami said get back to the coast after they had wandered into the forest and lost sight of the shoreline. Being on the shoreline still doesn't separate you from the forest though.

>>143691623
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>>143690071
Damn, carrot is stacked.
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>>143693053
Earlier you said anything suspicious or red flags. I showed you Pedro casting suspicion and I showed you SHs displaying red flags.

And, unsurprisingly, you dismiss both pieces of evidence.
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What's worse, being retarded or arguing with one?
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>>143693663
the latter automatically makes you the former
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Would Nami and Usopp be able to beat all the East Blue villains with their current abilities? And how would they fare against the Grande Line ones up until Crocodile?
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>>143695318
Yes for East Blue. Whiskey Peak would be a joke. Mr. 3 would be fairly difficult but Usopp could most likely defeat him. I'm sure Nmi's lightning would work wo ders too. But if it's 1v2, like Usopp vs Mr. 3 and Goldenweek then they're screwed.
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>>143695318
Ussop has a chance but nami would be raped by arlong
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>>143695679
>raped by arlong
Again? Because that already happened.
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>>143695679
Nami hold up pretty well against Kalifa. She would deep fry Arlong with her current abilities.
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>>143696009
exactly

>>143696128
I don't think so, he'd be too quick and his strength would ruin her, plus she doesn't have haki or any speed
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>>143693565
What don't you get? OK I'll explain i over for you. Them acting surprise to a statement that even sanji said his self isn't a red flag anon. How don't you get this? Are you really autistic to the point you can't tell the difference between the reactions? How nami acted in the forest was a suspicious reactions. Saying "Something doesn't feel right about this" that's a suspicious reaction.

Pedro wasn't suspicious with anything she said or did but just for the sole fact that she's BM daughter. He's the type who's always ready for the worst and is ready to resort to violence.
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>>143683534
What a stupid theoretical. It's more likely that Oda gets cancer and has to finish it up within a year or two.
>Sorry Oda, our biggest cash cow ever, we're gonna have to pull the plug on this One Piece shit you're doing
You should feel bad for being retarded.

>>143695318
Reminder that Crocodile has the worst logia
Present Usopp or Nami could easily beat pre-TS Croco-boy
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>>143693513
I see the roots moving but it still looks like they're all bending over instead of moving to the side.

And as I said there's a clear difference between the shore and the woods that Nami even mention to wait on the coast and to get out of the woods. You won't find one page where pudding tells them to go into a forest. Hell even where pudding and sanji was said to be standing isn't near the woods. You just keep trying to make it one thing
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Hey viz anon did you get them already?
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Arlong wouldn't be able to hit her if she'd use her mirages. Also, her dark clouds are extremly powerful and she only needed one two knock out a CP9 member. Current Nami would destroy Arlong.
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>>143696724
>You won't find one page where pudding tells them to go into a forest
you won't find one page where pudding tells them not to.
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>>143696785
naaaaaaaaaaaah he's too fast, and he can take a fair bit of damage, nami is the weakest strawhat by far, along with worst strawhat
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>>143696785
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Could post-ts Zoro and Sanji beat Enel?
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>>143697070
dunno about beating, but they could put up a fight now they can both use haki
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>>143696426
kalifa had soru speed and superhuman strength

still got wrecked by pre-ts nami.
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>>143689851
How is it any different from this, honestly? It's the same use, same mechanics, different "prizes". Don't be such an asshole, anon.
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>>143697202
only because she was a dumb cunt with a new devil fruit, you can think what you think, but I personally think arlong would put his fist through namis mouth throughout her arse
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>>143697299
>Kalfia is a dumb cunt
>Arlong is smrt though

Arlong is a dumb fish nigger with nothing going for him. If he's capable of killing Nami, she'd be dead already.
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>>143697401
didn't say he was smart, only reason she's not dead is because luffy
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>>143697202
That's only because she was really motivated to get revenge for her beloved Sanji-kun
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>>143697070
assuming enel is at his pre-ts level? it's hard to say.

pre-ts zoro at least was outclassed against enel in basic combat and haki wouldn't help him much against lightning blasts
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>>143684676
Underrated post
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>>143697070
Definitely. Sanji and Zoro can use CoO, have ridiculous reflexes compared to Skypiea, is quick as fuck in general, has CoA, and have more endurance. And they sure as shit have more power than Skypiea Luffy. Since Enel was a glass cannon and a single rifle made him fall, Zoro and Sanji would have a field day.
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>>143696652
>Crocodile has the worst logia
yo man what the fuck? At the very least Smoyan and Caribou has worse.
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>>143697654
>outclassed in basic combat
What? I wouldn't say that. Zoro lost, yes, but purely because of Enel's Logia powers. Enel was able to block and dodge Zoro but we all know that doesn't mean much. Enel even commented on Zoro's strength even though he's literally Arrogance incarnate.
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>>143696652
>can drain a person of their water
>sandstorms (darude intensify)
>Razor sharp
>quicksand
>able to sense anything that touches his sand
>able to turn rocks and buildings into sand

anon, is this bait?
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>Sanji refuses to marry Pudding
>Won't meet with her, shows that he's serious
>Pudding, 35th daughter, seeing all her sisters marry before her, was really looking forward to it
>Driven mad by the rejection, stalks him
>Over the next few days learns of what Sanji does, hobbies, tendencies, etc.
>Can't quite get a good look at him though
>Create clone anyways and spend all free time with it
>Mom tells Pudding that Sanji's crew is here
>notmyhusbando.jpg
>Float down on magic carpet and give them 'secret' path even though Mom already knows they're here
>Tell them I'll be waiting with Sanji
>Deadly forest instead
>Strawhats trapped, can't get out
>Sanji locked away for eternity while Pudding marries the clone (if sanji dies, clone dies)
>Big Mom still gets rights to Vinsmoke tech and power
>Pudding gets her marriage
>Perfect plan/10

It's why the Sanji mirror looks off.
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>>143698765
>that beard is so wrong and fake
Hello yonji?
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>>143698332
Smoker's is good.
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>>143698677
>left defenseless by a bucket of water, rainfall or just taking a fucking shower
and let's see
>able to sense anything that touches his sand
only helpful in a desert
>quicksand
only in a desert by detecting undergroud rivers through the sand
>sandstorms
much weaker outside deserts
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>>143698765
Did Oda seriously drew Sanji's beard like that on purpose? Because if he did not then that shit is really fucking bad. It looks like his son drew that beard.
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>>143699097
still better than half of the logias, also, nami and ussop could not beat crocodile, if he was able to take a baptism in boiling water than he could wipe the floor with them two, plus they would both shit themselves
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>>143699247
sticky sticky beats sandy sandy any day

usopp > sticky sticky
usopp > croc
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>>143699330
If crocodile was able to fight whitebeard and live, ussop would die
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>>143699399
You are asking the wrong question, grasshopper.
The real truth lies in

Would Whitebeard be able to fight Usopp and live?
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>>143699502
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>And he said those exact words! The same as Roger!
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Why does croco have such a great logia?
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>>143699892
You know Oda better come with a really good excuse as to why shanks hasn't become pirate King.
>he doesn't want to hurr hurr
shit excuse. Niggga probably too drunk to find it.
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>>143700144
Except he literally doesn't want it you fucking idiot
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>>143700110
Agreed. Niggas hating on croco boy are just mad as fuck.
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>>143700144
Are you stupid?
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>>143700254
Source? Also even if he doesn't want to he still needs an excuse as to why he doesn't want it.

The only correct answer would be because he is not the main character
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>>143700110
Because he was written during the best part of One Piece.

>One piece will never be this good again
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>>143700110
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>>143699071
it IS good but still worse than Croco boy's
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>>143700330
Shanks parties hard
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>>143700448
>>143700448
>>143700448
NEW THREAD.
VIZ SOON
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>>143700144
I'm almost sure only D. people can be pirate kings?
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>>143700144
shanks just doesn't give a shit about treasure
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>>143700372
It feels like Oda is rushing the story in the New World. At least compared to pre timeskip.
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>>143700384
So? Every logia has weaknesses. Croco's DF is still GOAT.
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>>143665117
I.. actually like that
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>>143700662
so far crocodile's is the only logia that can be disabled outright.

and since it's something as simple as water he can't even fight in the rain properly
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>>143700956
>smoker
fans
>Kizaru
mirrors
>Kuzan
fire, magma
>Caribou
soap soap fruit
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