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>kkhh- kkh- kh- hhhk- kkkkkkhh- kh- k- hhkk-
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>we have to wait a full week for the Mai-centric episode
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>>143648508
I try to tune this out.
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Why does Black know Vegeta is?

Baby confirmed?
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>>143651096
Unless Trunks introduced himself, Black knows who Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, and Trunks are.

All we know is Black is not a kaioshin, according to Beerus.
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>>143651301
>Black is not a kaioshin, according to Beerus

Could be an alien or artificial creation or something.
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>>143651301

I'm still thinking he's Ultimate Goten, who has been bodyswapped/taken over by something or someone.
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>>143648508
>Americans never got the kkh khh khh in the "awesome" dub
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>yfw Black is actually majin buu
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>>143654671
That's literally impossible in that timeline
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>new enemy is literally evil Son Gacku

Looks like DB literally hit rock bottom
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>>143654772
you're right, i'm sorry
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>>143654856
We already had that years ago with Turles.
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>>143648508
Translator's Note: "kkhh- kkh- kh- hhhk- kkkkkkhh- kh- k- hhkk-" means "eerr- ehr- eh- hhhr- hhhhhhheehr- r- eerr-"
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What does that nigga mean by "perfect", does he not aware that perfection already existed before?
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>>143648508
>kkhh- kkh- kh- hhhk- kkkkkkhh
lets just hope he doesn't make those sounds when he's sleeping
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>>143655146
>yfw Black is actually Cell
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Does Future Trunks know about Krillin having a child with Android 18?
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>>143655340
yes, he sliced the disgusting abomination in half
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>>143653237
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>>143655147
DELETE THIS.
Future Mai is pure, she doesn't feel that way for Future Trunks.
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>>143657158
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>>143655147

>>143657158
Goku Black really needs to take you for a ride anon

>>143657323
at least it's not something lewd like hand holding
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>>143657504
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>>143650845

At least now we have something to live for.
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Do you think anyone watching Dragon Ball back in the day thought "one day, this girl is gonna fuck Bulma's kid"
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>>143658253
This is weird. She must be some 10 years older than Bulma
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>>143658253

Never, and I've been watching DB since the original back in the 90s so my first exposure to it was the original saga against Pilaf.

Mai has always been my favorite girl, and Trunks has always been my favorite character (I even cosplayed as him when I was younger back in the 90s). This is a dream come true.
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>>143658253
I still can't believe she finally got her name in an episode title... love it though. But still. Never imagined it happening
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>>143658393
She is actually around the same age in Dragon Ball, isn't she? The makeup is the only thing that makes her look much older, but the makeup is noncanon.
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When are they going to make broly cannon?
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>>143658393
Only 3 years, surprisingly enough.
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>>143655146
>more
>perfect
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>>143658253
My, this character is fucking old.
Kind of weird she was absent for the entirety of Z. Makes me apreciate Super a bit more.
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>>143658393
>>143658507
>>143658584
Mai herself says she is 41 during BoG
So. She was apparently younger than she looked in DB
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>>143658866
>Mai herself says she is 41 during BoG
She could be lying about her age, like Bulma.
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>>143658429
>poop on stick
pottery
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>>143659033
True. But unlike Bulma. Loli Mai doesn't really seem have a reason to do that. Could of just said she was 12 and nobody would doubt her

I guess they can get away with it considering Mai's age was never given besides here , I believe
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Since Bulma and Chichi complain that they're old why don't they wish for youth from the dragon balls?
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>>143658429
>>143659339
Mai channeling her inner Arale
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>>143655302
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>>143659410
>Loli Mai doesn't really seem have a reason to do that
That's because she was too used to being an adult
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>>143658710
Perfecter?
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>>143659636
This looks so beautiful.
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>>143659944
>tfw you're not the perfectest
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>>143657666
even that artist knows the true lewdness of hand holding
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>>143659502
who knows? maybe too proud to do that?
Or perhaps it would be too awkward for them?
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Anyone else having problems with pafu subs? Like u cant see the subs in vlc?
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>>143661809
>vlc
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>>143653043

>ultimate goten

There is no such thing. There is only Ultimate Gohan.
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Black is just a kaio who got the Dragón Balls and wished for the best warrior fighter body and that was Goku's
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>>143657323
>*penis*
>*
So he's not actually saying "penis", but he's making penis sounds?
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>Dragon Balls can cure old age
>Can't bring a guy back from the dead just because he died of disease
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>>143663170
Are you referring to Goku?

Dragonballs can't bring back someone from the dead more than once.
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>>143663342
Namek's can.
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>>143659954
That's because he's perfect
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>>143651301
Are you retarded? He just said originally there was no kaioshin that looked like Goku. He didnt say BLack Goku wasnt a Kaioshin
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>>143663044
he gets the point across regardless
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>>143658253
I didn't but I'm super okay with it
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fuck you people i can't wait for next week
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>>143664568
>i can't wait for next week
Same. It would be nice of they give F Mai a little bit more backstory
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>>143658253
Nah, I didn't even think she was gonna reappear ever. I was so mad about GT and gave up on it and relied merely on doujins and hopes that fanartists would occasionally remember her. Then BoG happened and at first I was like "LOLI Mai? ...I guess I'll take what I can get, at least they remembered her..." but then I actually watched it and saw how adorable her scenes with Trunks were.

Clearly I never cared about Trunks/Pan because I didn't like GT in the first place, so it was even easier to get into Trunks/Mai.
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>>143665063
I think that there was some scan with timeline recently. Can somebody find it?
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>>143665525
here you go
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>yfw Xenoverse and Dragon Ball Online are made canon by Super
>yfw GT and all the movie villains are canonically alternate timelines
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>>143665063
KEKED
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>>143665063
Oh, Black will be filling in on all her backstory allright...
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>MFW Black is Frieza
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>>143653043

Black said he was fighting "using Goku's body". He's not Goku or Goten.
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I really like the new ending.

Am I gay?
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>>143658429

>Talking about "the mangaka" and "shonen Jump"

My gosh. It's like a totally diferent manga.
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>>143665639

Ching chong ping pong
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>>143658866
what the fuck? Why is Trunks hair blue here?
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>>143666666

check em
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>>143667151
That's Bulma
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Reminder that this nigga invented the ability of flight on earth
If it weren't for Master Shen none of the main cast would've survived the Saiyan Saga
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>Gohan right now is about the same age as when Future Gohan died

Future Trunks reaction to Gohan?
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>>143667524
Everyone is expecting Trunks to be disappointed, but realistically Trunks would not give even the slightest shit about Gohan's fighting ability and would be overjoyed to see him alive and with a family of his own.
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>>143667524
Future Gohan died a virgin. I'm sure he'd trade places in an instant.
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YFW BLACK IS An entirely new villain with no relation to any previous characters
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>>143667524
Gohan's still much stronger than Piccolo as SS1. Can he not become SS2 or is he just rusty?

idk if he can beat the current Future Trunks though
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>>143667687
I still don't understand how his skills went down so drastically in such a short period of time.
In-fact, it seems like everybody's did except for Goku and Vegeta
Why did Krillin have a problem with Frieza grunts?
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>>143667509
If Flight is a technique that requires training, dedication, and understanding, how is Pan able to do it at as a toddler?
is it muh hidden potential?
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>>143665639
>>143667083
just a recap of what we know, ending with Trunks coming back now on the far left.

Mai entry: Turned into kids by DBs, Trunks' girlfriend. Was at Bulma's Bday party.

No big reveals or anything apparently
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>>143667781
Gohan probably tried teaching her as a joke like he did Videl, but she actually learned (but will never show it in front of her parents)
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>>143667803

Of all the reasons that would keep me watching this QUALITY ridden anime with writing so bad it could only be expected of Toriyama, I would have never in a million years have guessed it was because a minor gag-character from Dragon Ball hooking up with a useless jobber I never expected to see again after the Cell saga would be so goddamn adorable.
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>Bra/bulla is actually Trunks and Mai's daughter

>Bulma's family adopted her because the future is no place to raise a child
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>>143667524
>>143667576
>would be overjoyed to see him alive and with a family of his own.
think so too.

Trunks will probably also understand gohan wanting to return to his training. Trunks couldn't protect his mom and Mai. Just like gohan couldn't protect his family
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>>143667576
Future Gohan couldn't even beat Androids 17/18.

Present Gohan would impress Trunks regardless.
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>>143668114
Present Gohan could barely beat Captain Ginyu. Present Gohan is a miserable failure that not only forgot how to mystic form, but also can barely remember how to super sayain.
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>>143668086
>Just like gohan couldn't protect his family
Who cares since your dad is a literal god now?

They will be safe either way...Gohan can do whatever he wants
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>>143668164
>can barely remember how to super sayain.

He hasn't transformed into SS since the early Buu saga, since he got Mystic. He was just rusty, but he can still transform SS2 probably...

Either way, he's still much stronger than Piccolo; who's already stronger than 17. So Present Gohan is obviously stronger than F. Gohan from that alone
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>>143667975
>I would have never in a million years have guessed it was because a minor gag-character from Dragon Ball hooking up with a useless jobber I never expected to see again after the Cell saga would be so goddamn adorable.

Strange how these things go sometimes.
Not complaining though
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>>143668164
>could barely beat Captain Ginyu
filler
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Android 18 needs some screentime.
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>>143659636
Why didn't you protect his smile?
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>>143668492
I'm not a perfect person.
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>>143668399
>Android 18 needs some screentime.

I wanna see her kick ass again

I wanna see her put that infinite stamina/ki to good use
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>>143668164
Captain Ginyu was in the body of a guy who trained with a rapidly growing Frieza. Post-Training Tagoma could've been on Buu's level for all we know.
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tired of goku saying show me your true power all the time. he is getting arrogant i think
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>>143655302

He is Black Perfect Cell and has absorbed the powers of a bunch of people including ever Kaio, Beerus and Whis.

Ultimate God Gohan will eventually have to kill him.
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>>143668389
Super is filler confirmed
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>>143668802
He's not arrogant he's just stupid and challenge hungry
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>>143648508
>that moment when Trunks gets fed up with all his failures and just mounts loli Mai
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>>143668978
>DBS's first two sagas used the movies as the source material
>Ginyu wasn't in said source material

Tagoma-Ginyu was filler
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>>143668802
This shit has been going on for the entire series. Trunks is the ONLY CHARACTER with literally any common sense at all. Not even Gohan, he even went nuts and tried to keep Cell alive.
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Finally the Ending isn't shitty anymore
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>>143668612
>I wanna see her put that infinite stamina/ki to good use
This never made even the slightest semblance of sense to me, even when I was a little kid. So they don't need to breath/don't suffer muscle tearing? Okay, so what? There's no such thing as infinite energy. They're robots, which means they run on fucking batteries, or really any form of energy source, the exact type is irrelevant. And stuff like 17's barrier must take a decent amount of juice. Machines are not any more immune to running out of power than living beings. Machines break down from extreme use like muscle tears from overwork.

The androids' "abilities" are fucking stupid.
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Is Xenoverse good? last chance to get it 75% off on Steam on these sales
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>>143667975
I was never much of a shipping faggot, but this pairing is just too cute.
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>>143669224
>They're robots, which means they run on fucking batteries, or really any form of energy source

Actually they're cyborgs, not androids.

Te
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>>143669312
>Te...
They have human in them too
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>>143668802
Only tired of it now? I started facepalming pretty much every time Goku stepped up to fight after Freiza.

He just goes out of his way to set himself up to lose. Or holds back/loses on purpose because hey, let's have my teenage son and even younger son try fighting a planet-busting monster. What could possibly go wrong letting Fat Buu get away?

Goku is the worst character in DBZ. Hell, Freiza's the only main villain he's ever beaten without EXTENSIVE help.
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>>143655146
Anyone think he's clutching his chest because of the heart virus and NOT because of the body shots he took from Goku?
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>Trunks' reaction to Vegeta actually being a decent husband/father

At least we got that one answered now
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>>143669312
>>143669361
And? I'm aware that by the actual definitions of the words they're cyborgs, but they're always called androids. What's your point? Them having more human in them just makes their "infinite stamina" even more ridiculous.
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>>143648508
I hate the shitty jap dub so much

>HEEH HEEH
>HEEH HEEEEEH

I thought this lady was old, how isn't she in an old folks home already
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>>143669417
Why do you even watch dragon ball then?
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>>143662753
getting goku's heart diseased body.
gjdesu
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>>143658253
>some retarded autist looked at future trunks and said 14 years ago:
>you know who this trunks guy would be good with? that mai from the pilaf gang
>everyone laughed at him and called him retarded
>his face when
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>>143669227
Do you like Dragon Ball? Then yes.
Do you not? Then no.
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>>143662753
this
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>>143669510
Jab > English.
English voice actors would never fit Goku, they lack the innocence that is part of his character.
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>>143669494
>trying to explain man-main android/cyborgs that can easily kill the emperor of the universe and destroy planets like it's nothing

i dunno man
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>>143669514
For everyone else? The MC doesn't decide the show.
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>>143669658
>man-main
man-made* shit so high
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>>143667781
Terrible fucking writing.

Gohan had his bouts of hidden power, sure, but they were mostly just brute force, and only when he was panicked.
Pan in DBZ could fly at age 4, but she was training with Goku. She'd have been taught how to do it.

But no, Super just went and made it so she could do it before she could literally know not to shit herself. and she wasn't even scared. She just flew into the atmosphere carrying 3 more people because fuck logic it's cute or something.

And the saddest part is Superfags WILL DEFEND THIS.
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>>143669704
Then why don't you just fume about it on your own and fuck off. Nobody cares about your opinion when you watch dragon ball while hating the mc.
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>>143669658
>man-main android/cyborgs
>Te
Go home anon, you're drunk.
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>>143668802
Goku is so absurdly powerful compared to most of his opponents that he always had the habit of starting out slow to enjoy his fights. He has pretty much always been like that except when he has to be serious or he's in a do or die situation. He's addicted to fighting but if he maxed out his power from the start, most of his fights would end quickly. This can be traced all the way back to the original DB really.
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>>143669758
Well apparently you care since you felt the need to reply. And again, why does not liking an MC mean I can't like the show? I never really liked Ed much but I still enjoyed FMAB.
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>>143669648

What innocence retard? The guy uses violence to solve his problems always, his English dub fits the role of a kind hearted warrior. I bet you don't even know Vegeta didn't originally sound like he had a corndog down his throat either until Kai came along.

Do you just repeat shit people say on /a/?
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>>143669704
>complains about Goku letting people power up
>posts Vegeta, who was single handedly responsible for the Cell arc
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>>143668612
Haha no, she's a woman. Women can't do shit unless they're villains.
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>>143669730
Obviously quarter Saiyans have more innate talent than half and full saiyans.
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>>143669730
So what? Pan has more potential than Gohan ever did.

Age 4 Gohan couldn't do shit and was a whiny pissbaby

Age 4 Pan was already competing against adults, and even gave Teen Goten a hard time
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>>143669224
You're seriously complaining about power supply issues in a universe with time travel technology where some human scientist can make cyborgs hundreds of times stronger than the goddamn emperor of the universe?
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>>143669809
These are the same weeb twats that will eat any shit that comes out of Toei's ass. I remember when Toei was actually good and DB didn't over do their VA.

The money and fame ironically killed DB.
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>>143669842
Goddamn, Gokufags are easily triggered. I never said Vegeta was a perfectly logical ideal hero. Because he's not, because that would be fucking boring. He has serious ego problems. He's actually a character, not just a retard.

You idiots probably think Goku's a model father.
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>>143669912
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Buu used to be stronger than Beerus.
They should an alternate timeline/universe thing where Buu killed Beerus millions of years ago and became God of Destruction
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>>143669853
>>143669896
Fuck your potential, you imbecile. It's not a matter of potential, fucking videl can fly and she's a fraction of the power Gohan had when he was 4. It's not a technique that takes power, it's a technique that takes KNOWLEDGE, and Pan is a baby who doesn't even know not to shit herself. That's why it's dumb. It's like she was magically doing highschool math because her power level potential was high.
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>>143669996
Your worst cherrypicking is about as bad as super normally is, and super never ever looks as good as >>143669912
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmU9e67EfmI

I can't wait for FUNi to fix this show partially.
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>>143669997
>Buu used to be stronger than Beerus.
Do you say that because he wasn't called in to immediately defeat Buu?
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>>143667781
Epigenetics
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>>143669896
>Age 4 Gohan couldn't do shit and was a whiny pissbaby
That's factually incorrect. Keep baiting though.
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>>143670098
Maybe he means this.
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>>143669912
>>143670083
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Do you think mai and trunks have already kissed?
place your bets /a/utists.
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>>143670131
If goku had been allowed to bond with gohan like he was allowed to bond with pan, Gohan might not have ended up such a loser and he'd probably have been as strong as pan when he was 4.

Thanks, chichi.
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>>143670010
What if that's the reason why Gohan is so dang smart? What if he's boosting his IQ with ki?
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>>143669996

>can pick a few scenes and backgrounds out of a 300 episode series
>Super has that kind of shit 15 times in each episode

Please do not try to have this discussion again. Super has shitty animation and it's not ever going to improve.
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>>143669912
>>143669996
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>>143670148
You know damn well this isn't a fight you can win, anon.
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>>143670135
Oh shit, I forgot about this but yeah that's cool.
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>>143670131
unless he got angry, that's it

Then he'd be stronger than Raditz, who was already stronger than Goku
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>>143669996
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>>143670093
How much you wanna bet "Black Goku" will become "Dark Goku"?
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>>143670182
Gohan knocked up this. He did just fine in life.
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Super apologists are sad.
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>>143670194
>What if that's the reason why Gohan is so dang smart?
You what? He's not a genius or anything, he's just got decent booksmarts because he does little else but study. He's nowhere close to actual geniuses like Bulma or Gero, probably not even as smart as Pilaf. His legacy is literally "Ki for Dummies".
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>>143670010
Calm down, autismo. Pan flying was clearly meant as a joke, not something to be taken seriously.
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>>143670304
what if he reverts to goku level intelligence when fighting because he's no longer boosting his IQ with ki
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>>143670246
Not saying DBS animation was better than DBZ

I don't think this digital shit can ever compare to old style animation. Just saying Toei was perfect back then like people seem to believe they were

>>143670203
Actually it has improved this arc. And last arc did better than the movie-retellings. But it can still be better...
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>>143670148
Let's do it. I BTFO of some faggot last time.
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>>143670321
You can't just try to justify super's bad writing as jokes anon, and pan flying was not funny at all.
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>>143667576
DYEL gohan is probably still stronger than future gohan was when he died to the androids of all things.
>future gohan's weakness was foreshadowing
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>>143670353
>Actually it has improved this arc. And last arc did better than the movie-retellings
Has it? I haven't seen any decent animation so far and everyone's off model most of the time. Sure, I haven't seen anything quite as bad as the movie retellings, but I'm expecting some webm material any time now.
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>>143670291
I always that black Goku was a pretty dumb translation knowing English uses dark to describe evil more than black.

>Luke ... don't fall to the black side ...
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>>143670246
Is that Inferno Cop?
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>>143670358
It was also a filler episode, so you shouldn't even give a shit about it.
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>>143670010
>he's actually this mad

just get over it. Pan has more potential than Gohan.
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>>143670416
A retarded translation on whose part? The japs literally say "gokuu blakku"
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>>143670353
>Toei was perfect
>wasn't**
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>>143670447
>Pan has more potential than Gohan.
Yet never managed to achieve SSJ. Unless her GT version doesn't count anymore.
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>>143670444
Super is not an adaptation of a manga, so every episode is exactly as canon as the rest. Nice try though.

>>143670447
"I got nothing but I'll post a funny face that'll show him."
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can't wait for the NTR doujins involving mai getting raped by black while trunks watches incapacitated in despair and rage
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>>143670416
It's not a dumb translation; it's an Engrish name.
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>>143670509
>Unless her GT version doesn't count anymore.
Of course it doesn't
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>>143670470
Japs also often use "Bitch" when they mean slut. A bad translator translates directly to bitch, a good one would use slut.
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>>143670470
Blakku is not English, in any case it is still bad.
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>>143669134
You've got it wrong, Super's changes from the movies are now canon, and anything they left out isnt
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>>143667009
You're on /a/, so you are either gay or a faggot
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>>143670509
GT is a little better than super, but it's definitely not canon.

Wish super wasn't canon either, pretty much nothing good has come of it.
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>>143670562
It's a proper name, though, and it's typically bad form to translate those.

>>143670582
They're saying Black with their shitty jap accent, you mouthbreathing retard.
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>>143670509
GT ignored Pan's potential and ruined her, but the show was retconned to hell anyway. It's non-existent at this point

Maybe now they'll give Pan what she deserves
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>>143670509
GT was never canon
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>>143670637
>It's a proper name, though, and it's typically bad form to translate those.
I suppose that's true, yeah. Or is it? I think he calls himself son goku, black is a nickname.
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>>143670640
Considering Toriyama Toei had Krililn and Roshi fighting instead of 18, I wouldn't hold my breath for pan to ever do anything at all. I doubt she'll even go past the toddler stage.
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>>143670637
So mispronouncing a word still is speaking English correctly?

Hang yourself by the doorknob weeb.
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>>143670083
That Vegeta looks cartoony as fuck, it doesn't mean it looks bad.
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>>143670624
>pretty much nothing good has come of it.
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>>143669896
That's filler, Goten got Mr. Buu in the first round.
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Guys, how much do you think it would cost to make an episode with the same amount of Quality a DBZ movie had?
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>>143669197
New ending is trash
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>>143670727
It's way off model, which means it looks bad for what it's meant to be. It would look okay if it was some other series.

>>143670752
I concede Mai is alright.
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>>143670151
>Do you think mai and trunks have already kissed?
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>>143670673
Well I guess in this case it could go either way. I'm sure most translators stuck with Black Goku because of the magazine leak or whatever it was and now they're stuck with the name unless there's a very good reason to change it.

>>143670721
Mispronouncing a word does not change what word it was meant to be, yes. Now you are able to go outside and talk to people that don't talk like news anchors (read, 99% of the world).
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>>143670795
Cheap as shit considering they use computers mostly now.
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>>143670825
sauce?

google is acting up again
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>>143670913

...ya serious? yer razzing me right?
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>Black is about even with SS2 Goku

SSB won't have a problem with him. Why is he a threat again?
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>>143670825
You know she gets fucked senseless in the next pages, right?
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>>143651301

Fixed that for you
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>>143670948
No she doesn't the demons are shamed by her purity and leave her alone.
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>>143670942
Because he'll magically be much stronger next time for reasons yet unexplained.

I have hated super so far and I'm on the fence about this arc, but I admit it's keeping me interested and it's not terribly dumb yet.
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>yfw Black's super saiyan form has white hair
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>>143670942
>Black has the power to control time with his ring

that's all he really needs to be threat
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>>143670825
I don't know anon, F Mai seems so comfortable around F Trunks, maybe he has already kissed her maybe they even fucked at least once.
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>>143670832
>Mispronouncing a word does not change what word it was meant to be, yes
...


Unbelievable level of delusion. You are a faggot. I pronounced Faggot as "wrong" by the way.
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>>143670981
Not sold on the white boots but he's pretty stylish for a DBZ character.
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>>143670408
The far away shot with the whole gang when Tronks PTSD attacks Goku is very well drawn for a lot of anime
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>>143671176
so I guess all those people from the carolinas don't eat eggs for breakfast, they eat some other thing that is only in the appalachians called ayggs.

And I guess I got my tax return in an onvelope so I should just burn it because it's not a legal envelope.
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>>143670981
His outfit kinds reminds me of the Jedi robes
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>>143671343
Clearly. What, you really thought I was going to see it your way because many people do the wrong thing?

Wrong is wrong no matter what. If you saw logic the way I do and look at it from what is factually true then you'd see where I'm coming from. English spelling is garbage, that is the only thing I will concede.

By the way, the all above that I just wrote is pronounced as: iu, ar, stil, rong
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>>143671486
I hope you get killed by a muslim in the next gay bar shooting.
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>>143671603
Anon I think he's fucking with you. I hope he is, anyway.
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>>143671665
another mental midget
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What does this image from V-Jump mean?
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>>143671685
stop that shit idiot
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Looks like Gohan will get buff again. Jump ship Gotenfags, get back to Gohanfagging
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Is Bulma too old now to show her in her panties again?
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>>143671820
no

stop
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>>143671839
>Gohan fans actually still hold out hope for the guy
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>>143671839
Why? Because Gohan's a superhero again?
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>>143671860
Her tits are sagging, so she probably has a saggy butt too.
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>>143671860
it's not that she's too old, it's that super's artstyle fucking sucks so it wouldn't be anywhere near as hot.
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>>143671934
>blaming Super

Bulma is over 40 now. She's actually pretty nice looking considering
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>>143672067
I AM blaming super, because their stick limbs and big head and no ass or thighs style is completely unappealing and has nothing to do with bulma's age. Hell, the way she's drawn she looks young as hell, it's just that the body figure is shit.
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>>143671907
>sagging
you call THAT sagging?

W E W L A D
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>>143671164
What if she's pregnant and the saiyan blooded fetus inside her protected her?
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>>143671898

He's not a toothpick anymore.
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>>143672181

I'm going to allow this, anon.
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>>143670948

This next page?
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>>143672152
>you call THAT sagging?
Every male character has been saying that in the last few episodes.
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>>143669256
>>143669312

Not going to lie; a whole episode of Trunks catching up with the crew as they share stories of what's happened would have been cool.

...Well, maybe not so much on Trunks' end.
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>>143672383
Cute
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>>143670294
She got on his dick because he could fly.

Gotta thank Piccolo for that one.
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>>143672459
>his face when they tell their happy lives
kek

being the last defender must be shit
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>>143670416

But in-Universe, they just call him that because he's wearing black clothes.

Bulma even comments on how its a stupid as fuck, lame-ass name and wonders who would have called him that, and Trunks said she did in his timeline.
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Kid trunks is on some new type of crisis
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>>143672746
And he's about to get cucked next episode. Future trunks is making sure his younger self gets used to suffering early.
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>>143651301
Some guy stole Potara earrings and has been forcing them on to everyone to get all their powers. Somehow he looks mostly like Goku, probably because it was the strongest body or because Goku looks like the exact average of all sayain traits or something.
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>>143672746
Well how would you feel if you saw your future self and learned what a misserable piece of shit he is?
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>No one thought to protect the time Machine

Christ everyone is fucking stupid.
>Oh no what do we do now?

WISH GRANTING BALLS, YOU HAVE THEM
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>>143672746
>holy shit is my life going to be this shitty?
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>>143672962

Its ok, though.

They had a spare. Complete with all the moss and shit that grew over it all those years Cell hibernated.
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Haha remember when Piccolo could summon demons haha neither do I
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>>143673009
ANd that was surprisingly clever of Bulma, but I'm still weirded out by how everyone pretends there's drama when they have wish granting balls.
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>>143673020
That's honestly just a step up from cloth beam
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>>143673020
He was just giving birth.
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>>143673043
they just recently used it remember?
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>>143673043
Bulma was always the clever one, that was what kept her relevant. Remember she build a remote to detonate the androids but Krilin had to fuck that up because he wanted to get his dick wet
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>>143673043

All things considered, maybe the Dragon couldn't fix it.

And even if he could, the Dragon was scared shitless when he saw Beerus, so maybe Beerus would have told him not to fix it, since time travel is so illegal, or whatever..
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>>143673063
>>143673078
How long has it been since he's extended his arms?
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>>143672733

Hey, goku thought it was cool.
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>>143672962
>They ask Whis to take them to Trunks timeline.
>They don't ask him to turn time 3 minutes back so they can save the time machine
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>>143673084
And? TIME MACHINE.
There's no hurry to get to the future, he can get to the exact same time he left.

But again, Dragon Ball is stupid about time travel. On a more actually worrysome note:
Trunks' time machine seems to only be able to move between his timeline and the timeline he affected, doesn't it? How would a rebuilt machine behave? Could it go to Trunk's timeline, or only to the future of the current timeline?

Now THAT's a good reason to need Cell's mossy time machine.
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>>143672181
That and her comic-relief immunity saved her.
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>>143673132
Totally worth it.

>>143673142
The dragon can bring people back from the dead there is no logical reason it couldn't fix an existing machine, no matter how advanced.
Beerus doesn't give a fuck either and if he does they'll just bribe him with Cup Noodleâ„¢ eat your delicious Cup Noodleâ„¢ today, best food in the universe!
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>>143669904

Remember that dr. geros androids arent even the strongests machines on earth.

Arale would absolutelly destroy namek frieza.
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>>143673168
it took Black literally 1 week to come out of that time thing
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Will Julie Franklin come back to reprise her role as Mai in the FUNimation dub?
Or is she too MILF-sounding for DBS?
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>>143651096
Could be baby, from gt
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>>143673310
>Loli with a milf voice

Kind of want.
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>>143673267
>Totally worth it.
Dunno could've saved them a whole lotta bullshit and it's not like 18 was relevant again afterwards aside from birthing Maron and letting Satan win.
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>>143673365
I mean older Mai, you dingus.
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>>143673422
>and it's not like 18 was relevant again

Like he cares while he's tapping that.
And renting her out to all his friends.
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>>143671080
That was already confirmed by some insiders.
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>>143673430
TOO LATE.
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>>143672275
>bra is actually the love child of future trunks and mai. that explains why bulma isn't pregnant yet
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So is Trunks just shit at reading ki or why didn't he feel that Mai was alive?
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>>143673508
Bad writing or Mai is a cyborg.
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>>143673456
Can't wait to see TSF doing their marriage. Henpecked husband?
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>>143673310
>tfw dub of Super is two years away
>have to wait a year for them to burn through the redoing of the movies.
>Three years until they dub this arc
>I'll be 28
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>>143648508
Anyone think Black has the heart virus? He took some shots from Goku, but he's clutching that chest an awful lot like Goku was back in the Android Saga.
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>>143670010

Yeah, potential doesn't matter in this series at all. It's not like Goku learned the kamehameha after seeing it once for 3 seconds as a child or something.
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>>143673603
Goku was like 11 years old. He had martial arts training and knew how not to shit himself more or less.
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>>143673508

I think humans ki is too weak / generic to pick up properly.
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>>143673640
That's dumb, Goku can read the chi of all his companions anywhere on earth. Trunks was right beside her.
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>>143673460
don't think it's much of a secret but better if he magically gets a tan just because
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>>143669510
>Japanese animation
>Dub

Why are DBZ threads so full of retards
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>>143673635

It's happened plenty of times throughout DBZ that heavily wounded people's ki "dissappears" even though they're not dead.
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>>143673640
>>143673666
Also Mai has to have some Ki thing going, since she used a ki-shotgun.
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>>143673746
The opposite. Heavily wounded, presumed dead people were discovered to be alive because Goku felt their faint ki.
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>>143665795
>Xeno
I know some people really don't like the idea of Xenoverse/DBO being canon, but it seems really likely. Why else would they use the time ring/demigra earring/future trunks?

Having another evil kai/makai would be weird once the guy in question appears alongside demigra in a video game.
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>>143673713
Wow, red eyes and silver hair. It's almost a pastiche of all those edgy fanfiction forms. It's missing the body hair from SSJ4.
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>>143673197
>Now THAT's a good reason to need Cell's mossy time machine.

But Cell's time machine was actually from the third timeline.

How and why they can travel along what timelines doesn't really make much sense. Guess we'll see. Maybe that fact will be hand-waved away, and they'll explain that Bulma dicks around with the machine so they can go wherever they want, or whatever, just to make it simple. Or they may have forgotten and not address it at all.

Frankly, I have to admit I'm kind of surprised they even remembered there was another time machine.

>>143673267
>The dragon can bring people back from the dead there is no logical reason it couldn't fix an existing machine, no matter how advanced.

Yeah, but in the DB universe, time travel is being built up as weird and unnatural. Assuming they hypothetically gathered the dragonballs and asked the Dragon to fix it, there may have been some dumb catch, like he could restore the machine itself, but not to the point of making it time travel.
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>>143667524
Future Gohan is fucking weak

even nerfed Gohan is still stronger...plus, he's been training since pre-u6 arc so he's probably able to maintain ssj and maybe even ssj2 at this point.
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>>143673810
Welcome to DBS' school of character design.
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>>143668164
ROF """ginyu""" was way stronger than namek saga ginyu. he was in the body of some dude who trained with frieza
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>>143673777

The opposite has also happened, yes.
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>>143673834
>Yeah, but in the DB universe, time travel is being built up as weird and unnatural.
Time travel, yes. I don't expect the dragon to be able to send them through time. But he doesn't have to send anyone through time, just fix the machine that is ALREADY THERE so it can take them through time.
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Is Yo Son Goku and his friends return canon?
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>>143673913
>The opposite has also happened, yes.
Such as? I'm willing to bet only over great distances.
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>>143673927
Yes. It takes place within the first 2 episodes of DBS
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>>143673927
Currently not. It was temporarily when the BoG movie came out, but then they removed mentioning Tarble in the show version which is the main version now.
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>>143673635

That just means Pan has that much more potential than her gramps

You know,

sort of like how vegeta had to go through a grueling quarter-life crisis and death to become a super saiyan while 7 year old brats just became super saiyans after a temper tantrum.
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>>143673979
They also removed the Trunks x Mai stuff in the movie re-telling as well.

Tarble not being mentioned again in the re-telling doesn't mean anything
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>>143673927
Of course it is. Cabba IS the Universe 6 version of Tarble after all.
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>>143674016
Fair point
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So can we say that the old epilogue of Z will be made slightly less canon and updated with a newer version at the end of Super maybe, seeing as now it would probably involve Mai (and by extension the Pilaf gang)?
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>>143674015
>That just means Pan has that much more potential than her gramps
No, anon. No it fucking doesn't, because she doesn't have the knowledge required regardless of how much potential she has.

And it's nothing like the Super Saiyans. The SS technique is incredibly simple. It would literally be less retarded for pan to have turned Super Saiyan than it was for her to fly.

And speaking of Super Saiyans, you'll note Goten couldn't fucking fly despite being one, because he lacked the knowledge of the technique.
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>>143673946

Piccolo whilst facing semi-perfect cell off the top of my head. It took quite a long time for them to figure out he still lived.
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>>143674086
Depending on how popular it gets Super could move beyond the DBZ ending
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>>143673020
Well, Cell inherited that ability. That's how the juniors were made.
>>143673156
When he fought Not-Frieza in the recent tournament.
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>>143674086
The old epilogue of DBZ is basically retconned at this point.

>>143674109
Yeah, and you know how they figured it out? As soon as Goku arrived on the scene to save Tien, he felt his ki.
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>>143674121
How far away from the Uub thing are they anyway?
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>>143674121
>we finally get the stories involving older Pan and older Uub like we deserved
Based Toriyama
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>>143674153
5 years
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When will they show 17/Lapis in Super?

Apparently he's able to fight base GT Vegeta, wonder how strong he is...
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>They use the time machine to get to Future Trunks' timeline
>Something happens and Mai and Kid trunks get stranded there
Would you like it?
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Surprisingly well done AKM on this bloke but does it shoot Ki-bullets?
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>>143674143
>The old epilogue of DBZ is basically retconned at this point.

No it's not. Nothing in Super contradicts it so far.
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>>143673713
Is that legit?
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>>143674227
Aside maybe Gohan getting back in shape even though Videl pointed out in the epilogue that Gohan wasn't the fighter he used to be and like anon above mentioned the Pilaf Gang would probably be included now in some way. No way Trunks show up with his girlfriend.
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>>143674227
>No it's not. Nothing in Super contradicts it so far.

It doesn't make terribly much sense anymore, though.
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>>143674185
Why do we need 17? He liVing the peaceful life as a park ranger
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>>143674227
Yes it is. The main point of the DBZ epilogue is Goku seeking out Uub, and the God powerups have made him completely obsolete.
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>>143674306
That's true too. Weren't they freaking out over Uub feeling exactly like Buu?
Shit wouldn't even make them sweat anymore with God level and after witnessing Beerus.
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>>143674099
>The SS technique is incredibly simple.

I'm sorry, what? Did you happen to forget Gohan's explanation to Videl about flight?

step 1: draw your KI
step 2: control it to boost yourself into the sky

Not exactly rocket science.
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>>143674400
>Not exactly rocket science.
It requires fine chi control, dumbass. Whereas going super saiyan is literally getting mad enough and nothing else. There's a reason Goten couldn't do it despite being a trained fighter and a super saiyan.
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>>143674143

Like I said -- the opposite also happens. But do remember the over half a dozen characters capable of sensing Ki who didn't sense him.
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>>143674329
>Uub is obsolete

No he's not. Kid Buu incarnate still has a lot of potential.

Also, he would be the strongest on Earth besides Goku/Vegeta. After them, there's no one else that even comes close so it makes sense for Goku to want a successor
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>>143674221
>that image and that subtitle
Heya, it's me, Goku. You're probably wondering how I got here. Well it's a long story...
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>>143674374

My guess is that only one of two things can happen for Super to ultimately make any sort of sense;

1.) They flat-out retcon or re-write the epilogue to fit in with all the new stuff

or

2.) By the end of Super something happens, and Goku and Vegeta have the God powers taken away, or they lose them, or something.

The second one would be really stupid, though. At least the first one you can explain by saying them simply didn't think they'd be making a series that takes place DURING DBZ twenty years ago.
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>>143674302
Could be easily explained with Mai was busy, etc.

Mai not being there is not enough to call it a retcon
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>>143674302
The only dialogue Videl has in the epilogue is lamenting that her dad gave them seats in the middle of the arena and Gohan tells her that they should have joined the tournament instead
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>>143653043
You stupid fucking CUNT PIECE OF SHIT. EVERY FUCKING THREAD YOU GOTEN THEORIESTS POST YOUR PANTS ON HEAD RETARDED FUCKING THEORY SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>143674524
Just pointed out some things that contradict it. They Gohan being not a fighter anymore, but clearly wanting to be one again in Super being the main one.
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>>143674481
>No he's not. Kid Buu incarnate still has a lot of potential.
How? Majin Buu at his strongest is an insect compared to the Gods they're fighting now. He wouldn't do shit for Goku and being Human now he's pointless. Goku no longer has any reason to abduct the somali child.

>>143674475
Over great distances. The other characters didn't even check, they were too busy with Cell. Trunks literally held her in his arms.
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>>143674481
We'll Piccolo is strong as well now too. But I do agree that maybe Goku wants an actual human to take care of earth.
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>>143674541
Who did point out he was a total fighting loser then?
I'm pretty sure someone did.
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Black is Future Ginyu
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>>143674481
>. After them, there's no one else that even comes close
Literally all any of the saiyans have to do is hold hands and sing kumbaya and they become gods way stronger than Buu.
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>>143674560
Different anon, but after future Mai not having kicked it I can believe anything.
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>>143674599
Gohan was buff in the epilogue so since Super downgraded him (mainly due to artstyle shift) Gohan wanting to get back into training would explain why he's still buff in the epilogue even though he was still a scholar
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>>143674792
>him (mainly due to artstyle shift)
No, Goku and Vegeta are still Buff. Gohan is a lanklet now.
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>>143674604
>Goku no longer has any reason to abduct the somali child.

Except for passing his knowledge and making the perfect opponent for him, which was the point of the epilogue by the way.
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Oh no no no no. This is borderline trolling now.
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>>143674851
The only way to bring Gohan out of this rut is for Cell to return.
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>>143674931
>REBIRTH OF C
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>>143674400
I think it's actually the episode right before that where Gohan learns that Goten can go SSJ but doesn't know how to fly yet.

Then again, they do show Satan and Gohan throwing Pan around like a rag doll. The fighting experience Gohan had was training with Chichi, and from the way she has Goten couriering her around in Super, Chichi can't fly and never exposed him to any need to do so. Between Buu, Recoome, and the Saibamen, it seems like anyone with a power level can figure it out if they're made to do so.
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>>143674867
>Except for passing his knowledge and making the perfect opponent for him
That's the thing, anon. Uub cannot be the perfect opponent for him anymore, because Buu is now completely outclassed by even base SSG. He's useless. In DBZ it made sense, because Buu was still the strongest enemy none of them with the exception of Mystic Gohan had any hope of beating. He had value as a hyper strong fighter that was still leagues above everyone who wasn't Gohan or SS3 Goku. Right now, Vegeta and Goku could trash MB like he was nothing, and so could probably most of the other saiyans if they did the God ritual. He's obsolete.
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>>143674992
>Between Buu, Recoome, and the Saibamen, it seems like anyone with a power level can figure it out if they're made to do so.
All of them are at least old or smart enough to not shit themseles, unlike pan. The problem isn't "Someone figured out how to fly", it's "Pan is a fucking baby who can't feasibly figure it out".
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>>143674916
>people actually think this won't lead to time breakers/demigra

This would be "frost is actually evil" levels of trolling if it ended up being someone completely unrelated.
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>>143674599
He wants to train again, but he's not going to give up on his studies.

>>143674604
There is a reason considering Uub has the most potential of them all.

I think you're underestimating a Kid Buu being
trained by Goku since childhood

>>143674618
Even at this point, Piccolo cannot compare to Kid Buu

>>143674675
Doing the SSG Ritual would only grant a temporary power-up.

According to Beerus, Goku only remembered the god ki because he's a "genius". But even still, Goku needed to train under Whis to master it.
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>>143675083
Buu don't shit. YOU a shit.
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>>143669997
The old kai is from 12 generations back
and the current kai was alive when Buu was rampaging the last time.
Which means when Beerus knew the old Kai, it was millions and millions of years ago.
By the time Buu was released against the kais, Beerus was no doubt on par with Buu, if not stronger, considering how strong he is now.
If you really think about it, Goku and Vegeta being roughly 70% as strong as Beerus in such a tiny number of years means that if they were to become actual gods (and thus, not die of old age) they would easily surpass even whis in less than a century.
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>>143675144
>There is a reason considering Uub has the most potential of them all.
Buu was a magical bubblegum being. Uub is a human. He may have high potential, but he'll never be a god or likely any stronger than Majin Buu was.

>>143675144
>Doing the SSG Ritual would only grant a temporary power-up.
Enough to fight whatever thread far more effectively than Buu could.
>According to Beerus, Goku only remembered the god ki because he's a "genius". But even still, Goku needed to train under Whis to master it.
Man, Vegeta figured it out even without a ritual. It's clearly not that hard. If gohan applies himself he can probably manage since he has so much MUH POTENTIAL.
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Realistically, Uub was there as a way to show that there was still someone powerful out there for Goku to fight.

It was meant to show that that wasn't it. That there would always be someone strong out there, so the show didn't end on the note that there was no one left for Goku to fight.

That "message"--not so much Uub's character himself--is no longer relevant with Super. Why?

Because now Goku has more strong fighters out there than EVER before.

Super has largely been built up as Goku wanting a rematch with Beerus. Also, he and Vegeta want to keep up with each other, so he still has a rival in Vegeta as a potential fight. Then, there's Hit, who he wants a rematch with, who was literally limited by rules, and wasn't even fighting at his full potential. Then, you have the Universal tournament, where there are going to be strong guys from the literal multiverse all competing against each other.

So, you have Beeris who was only using about 3/4 of his actual power against Goku when they seriously fought. You have Vegeta who isn't happy with the backseat anymore, and will stop at nothing to surpass Goku. You have Hit, who Goku wants to fight again, and wasn't even at his full potential either, and you have dozens of undisclosed guys from across the multiverse to train and fight against.

Suddenly, the reincarnation of Majin Buu doesn't exactly sound quite so exciting anymore.
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>>143674470

>there's a reason goten couldn't do it.

Didn't have enough potential to learn it as a baby.
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>>143675250
>Buu was a magical bubblegum being. Uub is a human. He may have high potential, but he'll never be a god or likely any stronger than Majin Buu was.

Even still, it's more potential than anyone else regardless

>Enough to fight whatever thread far more effectively than Buu could.

Maybe. If the boost works as a multiplier, it might not though. Also it always seems they have problems with time with fusion, and SSG doesn't seem to be any longer

>Man, Vegeta figured it out even without a ritual. It's clearly not that hard. If gohan applies himself he can probably manage since he has so much MUH POTENTIAL.

Vegeta is probably more dedicated to training than anyone else. He also had a 6 months head-start training with Whis.
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>>143675303

Oh, and on top of that, you have Goku being strung along by Beerus with the whole Monaka charade, and he thinks Monaka is the strong non-God in the universe.

Even if he isn't really, he's still supposed to be motivation to keep Goku focused and training.

Uub being the goalpost is about as useful as Monaka being the goalpost.
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>>143675195
Saiyans don't die of old age though.
And if they did, it would probably take centuries.
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>RoSaT's time limit increased to 3 years

Will Trunks use the improved RoSaT, and maybe reach SSB?
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>>143675390
No retard. He just didn't know how to do it. Stop parroting potential like a magic word.

>>143675406
>Even still, it's more potential than anyone else regardless
More than every human, sure. Not more than Gods.
>Vegeta is probably more dedicated to training than anyone else
You miss the point. It's not even that magic a transformation if some jackass can do it via training. Soon enough we'll have Super Saiyan God Bargain Sales.
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>>143675489
can you stop using acronyms
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>>143675489
It looks like his hair is normal, just standing up.

Also obtaining SSB is not as easy as just training and getting it. Whis taught Goku/Vegeta god ki and how to not make their ki "leak".

Goku used the SSG Ritual as a stepping stone, while Vegeta took personal training with Whis 6 months longer than Goku
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>>143675509
>Typing Room of Space and Time each time
>or Hyperbolic Time Chamber
>"stop using acronyms!"

Yea, no...
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>>143675506

>He just didn't know how to do it.

Much like how krillin had to learn the Kamehameha, while it was second nature to Goku.
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>>143675506
>Soon enough we'll have Super Saiyan God Bargain Sales.

See>>143675573
Also obtaining SSB is not as easy as just training and getting it. Whis taught Goku/Vegeta god ki and how to not make their ki "leak".

Goku used the SSG Ritual as a stepping stone, while Vegeta took personal training with Whis 6 months longer than Goku
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>>143675628
Both Krillin and Goku were past self-shitting age when they learned the Kamehameha, and both had extensive martial arts training. I seriously don't get how you're still comparing a talented 11 year old to a fucking baby who still lacks the mental capacity to communicate via speech or not shit itself.
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>>143675620
How about we just make acronyms for each word, because typing things out and trying to get specific points across in a way that can be understood by all is just plain stupid.
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Is there REALLY no-one above Zeno-sama?
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Does this arc take place before Revival of F?
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>>143675573
>Also obtaining SSB is not as easy as just training and getting it.
>>143675642
>Also obtaining SSB is not as easy as just training and getting it.

Vegeta did exactly just that. And Super Saiyan used to be a literally unique form. Then children had it.
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>>143675692
you know the answer to that
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>>143651096
He has goku's memories
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>>143675692
the one who created him., his grandpa and elders and the his ancestors
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>>143675692

He can destroy all the universes right?
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>>143675708

It takes place long after it.
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>>143675708

...No. Have you even been watching?
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>>143675692
Hes OP as fuck, he cant die unless he wants to die, he can end soneones existence with a thought

Final villan?
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>>143667781
>If Flight is a technique that requires training, dedication, and understandin
Have you even read this series?
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Soon, guys
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>>143675749
Yes, he can.

I really hope someone asks Zeno who created him in the first place
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>>143675692
Probably, we're still yet to see who created all, though it is likely that it's someone on par with Zen ou
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>>143675743
I dont think anyone created him, he's always just existed, maybe reborns when bored
>>143675749
All existence. He is the one true god.
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>>143675757
Obviously not or I wouldn't be asking
Why would he go Super Sayian 3 when he could go super sayian god super sayian?
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>>143675692
he won't be able to do anything if you break his neck first
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>>143674221
I'd like it if all Black could say was HEY IT'S ME, GOKU
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>>143669817

>He thinks that innocence equals kindness

Dubbabys are so retarded..
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>>143675768
Have you?
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>>143675692
How does /a/ like Zeno's design?

In my opinion it's better than the cliche
>le wise old sage
design. Pretty cool overall.
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>>143669648
Nothing says innocent like an 80-year old transman.
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>mfw no Ginefags in this thread
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>>143675717
I meant normal training for years in the RoSat. You can't just get SSB without knowing HOW to get it.

>Then children had it.
the "tail-less generation" has it easier to become SS.

Also pic related. Even if not tail-less, Hybrids have more potential to be stronger (Gohan)
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>>143675911
>a fucking pokemon.
I don't really like his design, could've been much better like Bills' and Whis'.
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>>143675922
>You can't just get SSB without knowing HOW to get it.
You can by holding hands, but so what? Used to be you could only be a Super Saiyan if you had a pure heart.
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>>143675844
Because it's Goku.
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>>143675692
He was pretty kawaii in the new ending
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Reminder that the Demon King Piccolo arc was the pinnacle of Dragon Ball.
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>>143669953

>If you disagreed with me you are a Gokufag

How can someone by so stupid

>Triggered

Go figure.

>>>/v/
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>>143675959
The only way I see they could make Zeno's design better is if they made his character appear in a completely different anime style, make him black & white, manga-style, or something equally unusual.
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>>143675922
Revived Nappa when?
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>>143675875
I asked you first retard.
>Fifty years
>Next page Goku does it easy.
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>>143675911
Seems like he's an omnipotent toddler, maybe if he came across as less destructive. We still don't know why he destroyed six of the universes.
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>>143676082
>Goku, an already extremely talented martial artist managed the simplest Ki technique in the series

Yeah?

Said guy only figured out flying much later after training with God. And you're still gonna pretend it's simple enough for a baby to figure it out by themselves?
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>>143675999
>You can by holding hands
That's SSG, not SSB.
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>>143676145
SSG is God ki base form. SSB is God Ki SS. If you figure out God Ki you're set.
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>>143676134
>managed the simplest Ki technique in the series
Nice headcanon retard. Did you even read the page?
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>>143676134

>the simplest technique


stop confusing your shitty fanfiction with canon.
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>>143676171
>Headcanon

Name a simpler ki technique than the Kamehameha. Fucking tien could do it by seeing it once. No shit the hyper talented protagonist could do it faster than the old man who created it.
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>>143676168
Goku still needed to train with Whis to master god ki and obtain SSB.
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>>143675765
Well, he seems pretty destructive and childish.

Thing is though, he'd just blink them out immediately if they bothered him. He also liked Goku so it's not likely. Only realistic option would be to have Zarama become the big force of good and maybe help fight him.
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>>143676232
Goku already had God Ki. Whis helped him improve his control sure, but he's no saiyan, he couldn't have taught them to transform. They figured that out themselves.
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>>143676229
Show me where it was stated that it was the simplest Ki technique in the series. Fool.
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>>143667781
Because half saiyans ruined dragonball starting with gohan. Its too late now to bitch though, so might as well enjoy the bullshit.

I enjoy it
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>>143676270
Name a single simpler ki technique, dipshit.

Or hell, stop going off on a tangent and try to prove flying is simpler than the Kamehameha when literally everyone figured that one out before they figured flying out (except videl, but she was taught flying directly).
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>>143674262
The card isn't, they never have rounded numbers like that
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>>143676315
>Show me where it was stated that it was the simplest Ki technique in the series
Or give up your stupid headcanon.

>hell, stop going off on a tangent
Are you actually retarded? The point is Saiyan can pick up Ki techniques easier than most.
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>>143676401
Tien it's not a Saiyan, Piccolo also knows the Kamehameja and he is not a Saiyan
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>>143676401
>Or give up your stupid headcanon.
When you make me, moron.

>Are you actually retarded? The point is Saiyan can pick up Ki techniques easier than most.
A lot of other non saiyans figured it out very fast and even said Saiyan still took about half a decade longer to be able to fly. Therefore we can assume flying is at the very least a lot more complex than the Kamehameha, and not something a baby should be able to figure out before it figures out not to shit itself.
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>>143676298
Is she contemplating if she should bang Goku?
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>>143676454
>Piccolo also knows the Kamehameja
>When you make me, moron
Retard confirmed.
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>>143655064
That wasn't canon.
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>>143676490
She does that a few times. Frankly, she dodged a bullet.
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>>143670624
>GT is a little better than super

Now you know that's bullshit.
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>>143676525
>Still can't back up his argument so he's reduced to calling names
Sad.
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>>143676490
Always
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>>143676591
I am 100% serious and there's a large amount of people here who agree.
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>>143676454
When the fuck has Piccolo ever done the Kamehamaha?
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>>143673294
Wow! That's irresponsible as fuck. Did that end the human race?
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>>143676646
Yeah the gt spics
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>>143676591
it's obvious bait anon
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>>143676672
Looking at youtube, I'd argue more spics like Super than GT.
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>>143676646

as much of trainwreck Super is, it just feels more true to DBZ, the tone of GT feels off for some reason
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>>143676488

Flying is so complex that only genius fighter/killing machine could do it all the time.
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>>143670093
American OST was fucking garbage. Dub-baby confirmed.
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Realistically, why are you guys trying to argue about the whole flying thing?

So far in Super, continuity and character skill has pretty much been damned from the start.

And in this series, each character that shows up learns new shit faster than the last. Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't had Pan "accidentally" go Super Saiyan yet.
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>>143676703
You guys always call it bait but are never able to justify how Super is better than GT when it's equally bad at writing and worse in art, animation, music and character design.

>>143676723
That's your opinion, while it's valid I don't share it nor do I think that alone would make Super better than GT.
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>>143676646
Well furrys do exist.
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>tfw Goku black is not black
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>>143676668
she has done a lot of worse

Arale moved the planet from mars to venus once you know?

Honestly she could have beaten the shit out of frieza with three punches
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>>143676730
That's a hell of a strawman anon, but Chaotzu was part of the school that invented the technique on earth. he was also a psychic and a teen, not a baby still shitting himself. Nice try I guess?
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>>143676646
> a large amount of people here who agree.
Only unless you're talking about Brolyfags
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>>143676765
SS4's face isn't wolflike enough to appeal to furries.
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>>143676831
>also furry edgelords
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>>143669997
>>143670098
>>143670135
>>143670260
He couldn't sense Beerus's KI, that's why he thought he was weaker than Buu.
Powerlevels have long swept past Buu's most powerful form.
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>>143676755

>Is canon
>Is funnier
>It as beerus and Whis
>It as Future trunks
>Doesn't have pink fur
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>>143657158
Trunks is my husbando. He's too good for that ugly bitch.
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>>143676755

going so far into the future was GT's worse mistake (even though we got loli/teen Pan)

also kid Goku annoyed me.
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>>143676878
I don't think DBS fans should be calling others furries considering it prominently features a 2 furries as Gods.
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>>143676929


>>>> tumblr
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>>143670942
>tumblr filter gif
Fuck off!
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>>143676752

>So far in Super, continuity and character skill has pretty much been damned from the start.

Buh? More than anything, Super feels like Toriyama actually remembers evens from the past and planned shit out rather than making stuff up as he goes along. Cell's time machine this week is a great example of that.

Only the most raging autists care about power level nonsense not matching up or who can fly when they're not supposed because muh fanfic
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>>143676801
>three
Girl could stop Freeza in one.
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>>143676955
>Waifushitters being this triggered
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>>143676890
>>Is canon
Regrettably so
>>Is funnier
It's incredibly unfunny.
>>It as beerus and Whis
They're good, but they're from the movies, not Super.
>>It as Future trunks
And?
>>Doesn't have pink fur
Uhuh.
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>>143676646
>there's a large amount of people here who agree (GT is better then Super).

No. No there isn't.

As shitty as Super can be, it still feels like it belongs in the DB/DBZ timeline/universe. GT may have had it's moments (far and few between), but it never felt right. GT always felt like fanfiction written by someone who only heard of DB/DBZ third hand and come up with character designs after flipping through a Toriyama artbook for 15 minutes.

For all it's flaws, DBS is still a much more coherent continuation from DBZ and the characters act accordingly.
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>>143676929
Just use her as a self insert
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>>143670942
He was holding back and didn't Transform. Nigga was strong as Super Saiyan 2 Goku IN BASE, while holding back, and clearly abusing the Zenkai thing.

He'd force Goku into Kaioken Blue if he went Super Saiyan, but Time Ring pulled him out of the fight.
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>>143675916
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>>143676929
>>143676977
(insert witty retort here).

There you have it.
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>>143676959
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>>143672812
Do you really think Toei would allow a pedo-romance in a kids show? Jesus!
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>>143677034

Now that you mention it, I do hope Mai is still Mai and she doesn't get the videl treatment.

I don't my waifu to become a soulless husk.
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>>143676930
That's your opinion anon and it's as valid as any. I'm not here to defend GT though, I don't think it's good. Just a little better than Super.

>>143676989
>No. No there isn't.
Polling /a/ revealed the split is about 60/40 of people who think GT is worse than super to people who thinks it's better than super.

>but it never felt right. GT always felt like fanfiction written by someone who only heard of DB/DBZ third hand
Really? No offense, but super feels right out of Fanfiction.Net to me with the SS God bullshit. And don't make the mistake of thinking I actually like GT, I just hate it a little less.

>For all it's flaws, DBS is still a much more coherent continuation from DBZ and the characters act accordingly.

I strongly disagree. Chichi alone regressed completely, Goku seems more retarded than ever.
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>>143677052
>Do you really think Toei would allow a pedo-romance in a kids show?

Do you realize Mai is something like 50-60 years old by now?
Her romance with trunks is already Pedo, just in the other direction.
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>>143677121
Future Trunks is the pedo for lusting over loli Mai, though. Also, he is a rapist because Mai has no such thoughts. Mai only sees him as a friend and nothing more.
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>Future Trunks decides to cuck his younger self and take loli Mai for himself
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>Polling /a/

During the movie-retellings
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>>143676810

They invented the technique on earth? I am pretty sure that Kami was alive before even Mutaito was even born. And if you want to complain about kids doing things without training you might want to include Gohan blowing a mountain before learning what ki was.

By the way you might want to tone down the sarcasm or else someone is going to think that you are from /co/
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>>143677090
>Polling /a/ revealed the split is about 60/40 of people who think GT is worse than super to people who thinks it's better than super.
This is just about the dumbest justification I've heard for claiming GT is better in any regard. Internet polls, on /a/. I can guarantee you if you put a shitposting option in, the numbers would become 80/15/5 shitposting/Super/GT.
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>>143677167
Mai was clearly lusting after his dick in the preview.
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Pic related is the "funny" side of DBSuper.

I really just come to laugh at this shit and see who Goku Blacked is.
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VOTE, FAGGOTS

http://www.strawpoll.me/10661037
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>>143677090

>Proxypoll says GT is accepted
>Threads only have a handful of GTfags circlejerking

I wonder why is that.
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>>143677203

>What's better: Dragonball AF, Super, or GT
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>>143677090
I'm not going to argue about opinion on any of the other stuff, but I did want to address this.
>Chichi alone regressed completely
Chichi got progressively worse with every arc in DBZ. So her being even more bitchy in Super is completely in line with her decline.

>Goku seems more retarded than ever.
Goku was ALWAYS dumb as fuck outside of everything but fighting. This didn't come across as much in the dub, but in the sub he's always been an imbecile.
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>>143677196
>They invented the technique on earth? I am pretty sure that Kami was alive before even Mutaito was even born

Yes? But Kami didn't teach them how to fly as far as we know (though it's possible the unnamed namekian may have inspired it). The Crane school developed it themselves.

>And if you want to complain about kids doing things without training you might want to include Gohan blowing a mountain before learning what ki was.
No, and here's why: Gohan's outbursts when he was 4 were just that, raw power. No finesse or technique required, just MUH POTENTIAL and panic. That's why it works. Pan's not only MUCH younger than Gohan was, but the technique she uses was actually far more complicated than just brute power. That's why it's dumb that she flew.
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>>143677210
She was just blushing because he probably said something embarassing to her, the dirty halfbreed.

>>143677246
Gohan is a worse joke than Monaka at this point. Even Monaka managed to be more useful twice.
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>>143677281
>Chichi got progressively worse with every arc in DBZ.
Did you just Skip the Buu saga or what?

>Goku was ALWAYS dumb as fuck outside of everything but fighting.
Goku was taught math and other general stuff by Roshi when he trained at Kame House. Goku was a dumbass sometimes, yes, but he could fucking count, before Super that is.
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>>143677090
Goku seems the same to me.
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>>143676984

I see no pink fur in that pic either. Super confirmed for superior show.
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>>143677300
>>143677246

It's a bad time for us Gohanfags
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>>143677248
>9 votes
>8 out of the 10 options have a vote

Neat
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>>143676989

speaking of feeling off-tone,
why was GT's OP/ED mostly composed of romantic J-pop songs?

(it was a great OST but it definitely felt off tone, considering there was barely any romance in the series)
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>>143675765
I'd actually like that, no matter how dumb that'd be.
We'd find out that the things said about him are true, but they are all KI-based and have a measureable powerlevel. Goku will take Beerus's seat as the God of destruction and trains for an eternity to reach Zeno's level and challenge him one day.

>>143675852
>literally God
>not existing in all timelines simultaneously
He will always be one step ahead of you. Goku would not only have to be faster than time, but he'd have to be faster than the past itself.
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>>143677248

Red Ribbon Army is pretty great m8
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>>143677327
>oceania was always at war with eastasia
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>>143677334
because the late 90s
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>>143677325
Goku was taught match, spelling, etc.. but when did he apply that shit outside of his age? You're making it seem like that kick started his ged or some shit.
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>There is people who seriously try to defend GT over Super

WHAT A WORLD WE LIVE IN
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>>143676968
Fuck, I'd love for her to have a 4-5 episode small arc or maybe even a permanent role as a friend of Goten. They're about the same powerlevel.
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>>143677358

nah, it's all about the king piccolo arc

also, DB>DBZ desu
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>>143677248
>There's actually 2 people tasteless enough to put super as the best arc

You make me sick, /a/.
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>>143677121
Don't compare something as pure as /ss/ with disgusting pedoshit.
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>>143677038
>Majin Buubs
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>>143677422

>3 now
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>>143648508
>kkhh- kkh- kh- hhhk- kkkkkkhh- kh- k- hhkk-
What did he mean by that?
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>>143677289

>but the technique she uses was actually far more complicated than just brute power.

Pure fanfic.
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>>143677422
And I was one of them, fight me fgt.
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>>143677090
I'm the complete opposite. I've actually hated GT more since Super started, not less. Because it's become so much more fresh in my mind, whereas before I had mostly forgotten about it. I've recalled all the shit it did that I hated. All the Goku Time nonsense. The rehash of old Dragon Ball episodes done worse. The Parapara shit. The annoying robot. The writers' dumb fetish shit with Pan. The writers never giving us a Super Saiyan Pan. The space lemurs. The whiny, annoying literal Baby of an antagonist. The teasing of Gotenks that never came to be. The waste of Uub as a character. The actual worst part of any Dragon Ball series, Super 17. The COMPLETE disappointments the Shadow Dragons were. The blink and you'll miss it Gogeta. The nonsense ending that left a bitter taste in my mouth.

I used to be able to put this shit behind me, but now I can't, because it keeps being brought up again and again. I'm not arguing for Super's quality. I'm mad as fuck because now I have to force myself to forget about GT's bullshit.

The best I can say about it at this point is that Dan Dan is a god tier OP.
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>>143677520
>>143648508

>ehhh kkh khh kh ehhhh
>uhhh huh huh huh
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>>143677543

What do you like about Super that is better than DBZ?
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>>143677520
"The situation frustrates me. I am at my wit's end."
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>>143677536
>Pure fanfic.
If your'e not even gonna try to argue I'll stop replying anon.
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>>143677334
original DB had romantic EDs, literally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUXe8vqdvx4
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>super getting the most votes

Dragonball is dead.
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>>143677605

original DB had the goat opening theme though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7kZVH849Eo
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>>143677650
I did it purely to spite you and prove a point.
Internet polls are shit and you're shit for trusting them.
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>>143677605
>>143677655

Dassum good Nostalgia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf4YU-sRRBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hbd1QeI1Og
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>>143677566
>What do you like about Super that is better than DBZ?

Two shiftless gods that just hang around our heroes because they've got nothing better to do.
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>>143677687
You did it because you like Super and can't stand the fact people don't agree with you about Super.

I expect it from a guy who likes the "comedy" of super.
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>>143677655

>dem basslines
>dat synth tone
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>>143677741

They're fun characters, but they basically dispel any and all tension that could be had in the series.

Then again, so does all the "humor" like the Pilaf crew.
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>>143677741
but both of them are literally what is wrong with super

With them being there. Literally no threat can be threatening.
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>>143677655
>>143677713
>>143677791
>tfw in Poland we got this trash instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjFqD3HadKE
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>>143677776
No, I did it to spite you, good sir. I voted for it to make you upset. I noticed your butthurt over Super getting votes and added one to it purely to see you get angrier.

That and to make sure you realize internet polls on 4chan cannot be trusted. I could easily give Super another couple votes. Would you like me to?
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Black has Goten's "Goku" hairstyle. It's gotta be Goten's from another timeline's body being possessed.
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>>143677833
Feel free to, but that doesn't erase the shit taste of the first 2 votes.
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>>143677741
Is that all?
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>>143677741


I will say this, as someone who's generally liked super so far: Those two were so much more interesting and likeable in the movies than in Super.

Super has gotten better about this after they've stopped recapping the movies but they still haven't managed to capture what made Beerus such a cool antagonist.

And FUCK do they overuse that fucking food gag. How can a 2 hour movie have more variety in gags for these characters than a 50 episode anime?
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>>143677833
>No, I did it to spite you, good sir.

You really did not. Why continue to lie? You know I won't fall for it.

>I could easily give Super another couple votes

No you cannot. That is the opposite of easy for you. Are you sure your pea brain knows to how vote spam?
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>>143677891
>And FUCK do they overuse that fucking food gag. How can a 2 hour movie have more variety in gags for these characters than a 50 episode anime?
Food placing advertisement. Literally
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>>143677891
The movie didn't have a product placement deal with Cup Noodleâ„¢ the tastiest food in the universe!
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>>143677882
That's three votes I am going to add. Or maybe they will come naturally, as others see how upset you are and vote for such a thing purely to make you more upset. Perhaps one of those two votes was purely to make you upset as well.
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>>143677289

Gohan was an spoiled kid that never trained in his life and yet he was as strong as his father a genius, experienced martial artist. On top of that he was able to fire Ki blast by instinct. And he also broke the ribs of Raditz a guy that is even stronger than Goku.

You have no problem accepting this but a baby flying is to much for you? Even if said baby is the comes from a family of natural warriors?

I get that you don't like super but to be honest I think that what Super is doing to DBZ is not different to what DBZ did to DB.
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GT had a great soundtrack though, that's something Super really needs
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>>143677248

>saiyan saga not winning

I knew yall had shit taste
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>>143677882
>Perhaps one of those two votes was purely to make you upset as well.
Second vote here and I can confirm that.
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>>143677325
Did you ever saw Goku using math in DBZ?
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>>143677926
You are quite upset, anon. Let me give Super some more.
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>>143677289
Been reading your guys' argument/discussion and I'm going to put my sense of rationality by likening it to Naruto (don't condemn, only thing i could think of off the top of my head) So if you've seen the series, they were using Shadow Clones, Fireballs, and Water Dragons since the start of the show. But didn't learn to walk on water until much much later. I feel like this relates, how even though walking on water didn't require much chakra/ki, it was the balance of chakra/ki that made it so difficult. Much like flying in DBZ. So it does seem silly.that pan would be able to fly so young. Idk that's just my opinion on it
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>>143677980
Super's opening is great, but GT's opening is just fucking amazing. Just wow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfUbqI_q0Ho
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>>143678001
...Well? Where are they?

*sigh*
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>>143677966
>Gohan was an spoiled kid that never trained in his life and yet he was as strong as his father a genius, experienced martial artist.
Stronger in RAW POWER due to MUH POTENTIAL. But no skills whatsoever. He had no control. That makes sense.
>On top of that he was able to fire Ki blast by instinct.
Not in the manga. Unless you mean after he'd been living with the dinosaurs for a while, but that just means he figured it out.
>And he also broke the ribs of Raditz a guy that is even stronger than Goku.
Yes, with RAW POWER:

>You have no problem accepting this but a baby flying is to much for you?
Yes, because as I've explained over and over, POTENTIAL can account for raw strength and power outbursts, not more complex chi control techniques like flight. Even if said baby is a saiyan, because it's still too fucking young to understand the value of not shitting itself, much less a relatively complex technique like flight.

Get it now?
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>>143677817
That's the French intro used all over Europe without any translation. We had the same in Hungary too.
Oh well, at least we made this atrocity later for DBZ. They literally sing about love and friendship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8CnPQwcj8M
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>>143678068
>*sigh*
Ah I see. You are a newfag.
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>>143678033
Super's opening is not great, and when the music popped up during the Hit fight it just diminshed it because it's a lousy song.

The GT opening is certainly fucking awesome, and so was the ending.
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>>143678116
Kek, we had a very similar one in Poland for DBZ too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2NSoW6hKR0

>tfw I'm more nostalgic for this than for the real Z opening (the Japanese one).
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>>143678144
Hush, get back to voting now.
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>>143678169
GT's openings and endings are the only great things about it.
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>>143678213
10 votes, nigga. Do you want 11?
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Future Trunks get punished by Whis by having to stay in the current timeline. He literally becomes kid trunks's older brother. Bulla completely written off. Blue haired and purple haired trunks become brothers cuz Toriyama said so.
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>>143678260
Oh it would make me so terribly mad.
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>that funny feeling when you realize Zeno-sama has been watching everything since DB episode 1 and we didn't even know he was there

Am I the only one getting shivers from this feel?
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>>143678263
>Bulla completely written off.
Bra, you subhuman.
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>>143678185
Those echoes are pretty funny.

Video related is a fanmade hungarian cover of DBZ OP1 and it's a thousand times better the shit they put on TV back in the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz7gDZ5MpR0

Did your fanbase make justice for it too later on?
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>>143678305
You sound like a homo
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>>143667524

despite the special future trunks and present gohan barely interacted iirc
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>>143678333
Yes, you fucking weirdo. And it's not like he's the first bullshit god to show up out of nowhere, he's like the fifth.
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>>143678305
Kek, can you believe we actually got this loser to waste his time rigging a fucking online poll?

Lmao I'm browsing /pol/ and youtube listening to Gohan's theme on repeat, occasionally typing smug comments here.
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>>143678263
>tfw ending of Z will be officially retconned if Bra is written off
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>>143678355
Less 12-year old banter, more voting.
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>>143678333
He's literally God. He can always observe everything. I don't know why you're so surprised by this.
And even if he doesn't pay attention for something, it makes no difference. He can always get himself out of any situation. He's omnipotent.
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>>143678367
>And it's not like he's the first bullshit god to show up out of nowhere, he's like the fifth.

Really at this point, its kind of played out and boring.
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>>143678401
I gave you three, you slut. Any more and I'll have to pay you.
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>>143678420
>He's literally God. He can always observe everything.
Pft, so could Kami.
>>
>>143678420
I'm just talking about this weird feeling I got when I started watching the first DB episode ever again, seeing young Goku who doesn't know anyone yet, that Zeno is actually there somewhere and it's going to be a wild ride until we get to see him.
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>>143678436
I knew you were just a child who couldn't harm a simple online poll. Off to bed, kiddo.
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>>143678475
>Zeno is actually the biggest Goku fanboy
>He's been watching Goku's adventures since they began
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>>143678475

the character wasn't thought of at that time. don't B autistic
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>>143678525
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>>143678475
>seeing young Goku who doesn't know anyone yet, that Zeno is actually there somewhere

So is Kami
And Kaioh-sama
And Kaiohshin
And Beerus except he's asleep but Whis can probably see too.
And yes, Zeno too.

In other words, "wow it's fucking nothing".
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>>143678534
I know he wasn't thought of at the time, but since DB, DBZ and DBS are canon, it means that he was there all the time
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>>143678525
>mfw DBS will pull a Barto on us

>>143678534
So? If he didn't interfere with any of the events and only observed them, he can always be writtne to be a fnaboy later on.
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>>143678501
You're a thirsty slut, you aren't satisfied with four people stuffing your face with their hard, throbbing votes?
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>>143674604
If Frieza can reach god level by training for several months than Buu should be able to become much stronger if he trained with Goku for years.
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>>143678679
Uub is not Buu. He's human. And so, he's useless in Super.
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>>143678069

So I was right your problem is that you want to rationalize Super from DBZ perspective.

But think about the changes that DBZ/second half of the manga introduced.

>Piccolo is now an alien instead of a demon
>Goku no longer based in Son Whukong but an alien and every other member of his race is evil
>Flying is not a levitation technique but allows everyone to move like a fighter jet
>The emblematic Nimbus and power pole are useless
>Martial arts are irrelevant and power levels and Ki blasts are all that matter
>The comedy and adventure are replaced with a more serious story

And all of this changes just keep getting worst as the story progress. But what is my point? Well if you already accepted all this ridiculous, over the top changes why not just accept the new ones too? Pan flying is ridiculous? Sure but at this point what difference it make?
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>>143678650
Oh, did you stop already? I thought you were gonna make me mad, or something.
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>>143678889
I don't think any of the shit you lifted is particularly a problem logically, stupid or contradictory, like Pan's flying is.
And you seem to agree it's stupid, so why try so hard to defend it? Is your best point really "well DBZ did sum stupid shit sometimes too"? So what?
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>>143678889
>Martial arts are irrelevant and power levels and Ki blasts are all that matter
Bad.

>The comedy and adventure are replaced with a more serious story
Good.
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>>143678987
I'm not actually that guy, nigga. I voted for RRA. I just wanted to call you a cumdump. You cumdump.
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>>143679179
Your lies do not affect me. Your time has been wasted, and I am amused.
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>>143667781
lamarckian evolution
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>>143679212
No, really, I voted RRA.

You whore.
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>>143679273

Dance, puppet.
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>>143679290
You'll have to get off my lap first.
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>>143679317
Move to my tune.
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>>143679351
You whore, you're that desperate for money? Or are you doing this for the pleasure of it?
>>
>>143651301
What? I said he has the aura of a Kaioshin, the only problem is that none of them can look like Goku, but that just suggests the obvious, aka potara fusion or something among those lines.
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>>143679421
keep dancing, puppet.
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>>143669730
What's the problem? It's not that different from Goten turning super sayan because Chichi was scolding him.
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>>143679498
You keep this up and you won't be able to walk tomorrow.
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>>143679604
It's very different. Even a baby can get mad. But a baby can't understand something more complex, like flight.
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>>143679626
Move to my tune.
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>>143679640
Tambourine and Cymbal did.
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>>143679677
Funny, but you know damn well that they were intelligent and mentally grown.
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>>143679643
I think you're delusional, nigga. Has taking it up the ass so much made your mind numb?
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>>143679704
keep dancing, puppet.
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>>143679704
>>143679643
Could you fags go ERP somewhere else?
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>>143679703
But Piccolo is Pan's grandpa
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>>143679779

No anon
>>
Anyone have a link to the theme that plays when Beerus/Whis are around? Fucking love it, but can't find it.
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