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What's the verdict on the first episode?
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>>143642944
I have no idea what's going on. Where's my adventuresexual bro and his gay spirit? Where are the ruins? Where's the adventure?
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>First episode
It's called episode 00 though. Alisha isn't even part of the show.
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>>143642944
Alisha a shit.
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>>143643118
Next week.
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Not enough ruins nerds.
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About as good as the game.
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>it's another thinly veiled 'this game is shit/overdone waifufag showdown' thread
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So should we keep discussing how Baba wrecked everything?
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>>143643155
>In the back with Rose's VA.
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>>143642944
Man, the overhead shot of the city made we want to play sexy fire emblem again.
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>>143643164
Best boys will save us from the waifufagging.
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>>143643155
Baba pls go
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>>143643204
Alishia a shit. Don't care enough about Kayanon.
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>>143643201
Yes

>Being hyped as anniversary tales
>only sold less than 350k in it's first week, xillia sold 550k, even xillia 2 sold more than 450k in it's first week
>second week sales drop, the biggest sales drop ever in tales franchise, 94% more drop
>the most return game to the store ratio ever for tales franchise, it's also the most returned game for all games in japan for 2015 (you can buy it for 100 yen, roughly 1$ on amazon japan store)
>The most hated tales of ever, japan really rage, angry, disappointed, and disgusted about this game, outburst at 2ch, yaraon, 2chan, NND and other outlets, spamming countless insult, harrasment, and hatred. Namco had to release the DLC of alisha for free because of that (and scrap other scenario DLC, because the rage is only getting bigger)
>The lowest rating tales of ever in amazon jp (probably the lowest rating game in japan of 2015)
>Have a whole wikipedia dedicated for it's shortcomings
>Death threat and harrasment to fujishima (rose and sorey character designer) so much that he had to delete his twitter
>Death threat to hideo baba and his family, harrasment and an attempt of murder? (it's reported that he got a packet containing some sulfur/acid adressed to him), so much that he become afraid and paranoid, he never appear on public again since his last interview for zestiria in april, which he got heavy backlash regarding alishia situation
>At his last interview baba is quoted saying "The Zestiria team that worked days and months throughout the past three years were truly heartbroken by all of this.・
>Terrorism threat at tales festival, the tales fes is guarded by a batallion of army and police, with baba nowhere on sight, he's not even there to announce new tales of berseria (baba usually the one who announce the new tales)
>Voice actress of rose doing dogeza and apologized for the fans and quoted saying "please let me join the tales family too", which only further enrages the fans
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Threadly reminder fuck Baba
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>>143643300
Zestiria was the sacrifice. We now have a better producer for Tales games. >>143643156
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>>143643284
>>143643300
>Good part of the threads are likely going to be about why Baba is trash
I'm okay with this because he is trash.
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>>143643161

you called?
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Crunchyroll rips when?
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>>143643284
Berseria will be his redemption. How can you not love a main character who is voiced Rina Sato?
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Do you think baba will show up at this year tales festival?

i've read it on /v/ that the tales fes this year will also be heavy guarded, just like last year, because it appears there's another threat this year too
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>>143643414

Baba has fuck all to do with berseria
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>>143643367
The more people that know the better. Tales was always had a couple unlikable characters but Rose is just fucking awful. Knowing it's due to him forcing her just grates me the wrong way.
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>>143643414
Baba isn't involved with Berseria and they have been very clear about that.
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>>143643439
He probably won't appear anymore. It's too risky.
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>>143643464
Good then
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>>143643402
It's on Funimation
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Heroine waifu next week.
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Alisha is still boring.
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Soon.
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>>143643284
Holy shit, I only knew about Baba causing the Alisha rage, but this? This is borderline war.
Are Japanese Otaku really like this? I never knew they could actually get shit done,it's like a paramilitary or terrorist hivemind.
I hope berseria can save them though, it would suck if the Tales franchise died because of one man's dick
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>>143643580
I can't get enough of that waist. The character design had a stroke of genius.
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>>143643612
>Are Japanese Otaku really like this? I never knew they could actually get shit done,it's like a paramilitary or terrorist hivemind.
Yes, it's not the first time angry fan send sulfur/acid to people they hate. They can go very far with death threats as well.
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Did they show the first two episodes at AX or how come people have been leaking the ED already?
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Great visual, lame story.

Can't Ufotable hire someone with actual writing skill?
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>>143643637
>Character design
I meant character designer.
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>>143643612
Well they didn't even polish the the game and then they put out an illegal update that made the final boss unplayable.
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>>143643674
Honestly I'm not to familiar with Otaku outrage aside from this and what happened to Gainax back during Evangelion's production
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>>143643693
I want to go drinking with Dezel and Zaveid.
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>>143643637
He was placed with the girls in the gacha too. Bamco knows what they're doing.
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>>143643414
He has no opportunity for redemption, the company probably hates him as much or even more than the fans.
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http://tokrin.com/archives/50878033.html
Best boy won, as expected, but why people like Sorey so much?
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>>143643475
>Zestiria was supposed to be the most harem oriented tales game, with Zorey being the good guy mc, Mikleo is the trap/friend that many harems have, Alisha was supposed to be the pink/red haired main heroine, Lailah is the guiding spirit of zorey which pull the harem together, Edna is the token loli who teases the MC and the group, Rose was supposed to be the airhead adventurer who always want to slash and dice enemies (aka your regular tomboy), then you have other guys who are the usual enemy/friends of the MC helping in the party.
And it ended as a BL game.
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>>143643776
He's cute and voiced by a popular VA.
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>>143643730
I'm aware of the Kakyuusei 2 incident which took years, but did eventually lead to the company shutting down.
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>>143643414
Baba's not working on Berseria.
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>>143643693

yes
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>>143643637
How many more lewds will he generate?
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>>143643738
want to go drinking with Edna
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>>143643874
A countless amount.
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>>143643782
It'd be funny and sad if people actually believe this.
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>>143643918
Now that's uncanny.
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>>143643904
I have this burning feeling in my chest.

Can Seraphs get pregnant? This is important.
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>>143643637
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>>143643284

That wasn't the question the OP asked and aren't people tired of this fucking topic already?
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>>143643693
>>143643859
are there more of these
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>>143644028

At this rate might as well avoid more /v/ tier threads for this show cause that's what people are going to be talking about more than anything
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>>143643776
Because he's loved by best boy. Also he's the only other good character, albeit an extremely simple one.
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>>143644065
Thank you, ufotable.
The opening had lot of Sorey/Mikleo scenes.
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>>143643991
Yes. See >>143644005
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>>143644083
Who's this mob character? She's cute.
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>>143644034
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>>143643782
Thank baba and rose for that, the game would had minor complains about the gameplay and story if they actually went with their original idea and didn't shit all over alisha, zorey and the rest of the cast to circlejerk rose.
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>>143644135
That's not their child, it's Mikleo when he was a kid.
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>>143643284

So why would they make an anime of this?
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Haven't paid attention since the game came out, are the waifufags still butthurt?
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>>143644028
The controversy is more known than the game itself, you're always going to have people come in with what they heard about the controversy, and people responding to that.
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>>143643580
Not soon enough.
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>>143644142
Rose
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>>143644083
Alisa's body have nothing on velvet
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>>143644142
Someone who got cucked very hard.
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>>143644191
Probably planned before the game's release.
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>>143644156
>Thank baba and rose for that
Really? And you people say Baba and Rose were cancer
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>>143644199
>Defending Baba

If you honestly think that the problem with Zestiria was about waifus then you probably didn't play much Tales games yet.
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>>143644155
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>>143644241
Rose isn't even the heroine.
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I'm midway the game and I am enjoying it, even if I didn't get to see alysha anymore, is it that bad? Sure the battle system isn't the best, I am really liking the characters.
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>Bunch of new anime original content
>all of it is Alisha suffering
For what reason?
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>>143644227
Oh ho.
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>>143643859
Cute!
Are there any leaks of the tip-toe or soemthing like that of Edna a nip mentioned?
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>>143644191
Of course to promote the new game, and it's why they put velvet in the anime, even though berseria supposed to be 1000 years before zestiria
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>>143644191
They had very big plans for Zestiria before it was released since it was the 30th anniversary.
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How many episodes are planned for this?
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>>143644275
They understand the fans very well.
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>>143644004
>Rose first
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>>143644229
Why are you posting a pig? Here's a body worth looking at.
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>>143644191
To fix the story in some way probably while at the same time promote the new game.
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>>143644199
It's not just the waifufags. Most tales series fans are still mad. The game itself is awful. The battle system is bad, the camera angles gives you a headache, and many more faults
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>>143644319
>Vagina bones
Why is this allowed?
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>Velvet is in the OP

Fuck now I need to watch this
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>>143644229
Isn't that just brunette Milla
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>>143644368
I want to lick his body.
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>>143644325
25 episodes.
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>>143643204
They're friends in real life.
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>>143644274
Tales was never a good game so yeah, the problems are the waifus.
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>>143644407
A slutty and sexy milla
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>>143644407
Jude and Milla's child.
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>>143642944
FLOW does it again.
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Are they completely changing the story or something? Because Alisha definitely didn't meet Lunarre, Rose, and Symonne before Sorey did in the game.
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>>143644368
2sexy4me
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Judging from the 1st episode, do you need to play the vidya to watch this series and not be completely confused as to what the hell is going on?
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>>143644455
>Tales was never a good game

For you.
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>>143644199
Extremely.
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>>143644283
>>143644241
>>143643782
Mikleo is the heroine; I thought that was pretty obvious
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>>143644264
The Nips found leftover assets of Sorey being more proactive in the game data, so Nips believe that Sorey's story was also altered to make Rose necessary.
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>>143643523
Fuck off with that shit. Give me Daisuki.
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>>143644470
They can't fix the gameplay and other issues, but they can try to fix the story.
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>890mb
That's a big anime.
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>>143642944
It's shit. Like Alisha.
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>>143642944
>Alisha best girl
Mikleo > loli > The rest
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>>143644470
Yes, so expect the pointy nipple witch from berseria to appear in anime
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>HS is ripping Funi instead of Daisuki
I wish I know how to rip it myself.
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>>143644617
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>>143644407
Velvet is actually based on Milla due to her popularity.
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>>143644617
>>143644661
Her design is just a rip off Teepo.
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>>143644642
Fucking hell.
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>>143644528
Believe what you want but can't change the fact Rose is the heroine and Sorey love interest.
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>all these comments about Velvet in the OP
>everyone forgot Eizen's in it too
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>>143642944
Rose > Lailah > Edna > Zaveid > Alisha > Sorey > Meebo > Dezel
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>>143644887
fuggg
gud catch anon :^))))
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>>143644882
Rose stayed pure for Baba. She died a virgin and without children.
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I like how still nobody is actually discussing the episode like it never happened and it's just another typical Tales thread rehash
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>>143644882
>>143644912
Now this is delusion. Truly, waifufags should be burned alive at the stake.
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I seriously hope they change up some of the dialogue in episode 3 (episode 2 was basically a redux of the tutorial dungeon and how Alisha ended up in it) because the game dialogue is WAY too happy go lucky for someone who just watched her friends all die in front of her a few hours earlier.

Anime Alisha might end up becoming a hellion if the suffering train doesn't stop.
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>>143644617
>pointy nipple witch
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>>143644887
Is he?
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>>143643284
Was it really that bad? Why did the fan rage that much?
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>assassin can't hit a stationary target

WOW
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>>143644959
Nothing happened, just Alisha suffering.
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>>143644959
It may as well have not happened. It was primarly about a dud character that nobody cares about. Wait until there's an episode with good characters in it.
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>>143644882
Rose's love interest is Alisha.
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>>143644998
Read the last thread.
>hint it's not waifufagging.
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>>143643284
>>only sold less than 350k in it's first week, xillia sold 550k, even xillia 2 sold more than 450k in it's first week
That tells more about Xillia than Zesty, though.
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>>143644998
I should create a pastebin.
Check the previous thread. >>143624274
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>>143644882
>Sorey love interest
Nah, that bromance scene confirmed Mikleo X Sorey is the OTP
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So they are going to connect Zestaria to Berseria? The opening made it look like Sorey is Arturius and Velvet is that generations calamity. But I don't think that's right.
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>>143644981
>Alisha ends up hellionizing in the anime
>Rose saves and purifies her
>Sayaka x Kyoko 2.0 happens
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>>143645039
>wait until there's an episode with good characters in it

Should I just drop this show then?
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Hype for this scene.
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>>143644985
>>143644229
>>143644319
>vagina bones

I think we have a new trend
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>>143645090
Yeah they'll be connected but we don't how yet.
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https://youtu.be/kMZD46WGPN0
why are they silent at 0:21, what did that girl do to them?
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>>143645052
The other way around.
Alisha lust over Rose
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>>143645110
If you're not in it for the homo OTP then I don't see what reason you'd have to watch it.
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>>143645107
Do you want ufotable to burn too?
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>>143644821
I wonder if someone can ask them to rip it from Daisuki.

I remember HS ripped Luck & Logic from Funi at first then they did v2 from Daisuki.
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>>143645117
>One pure waifu between two guys
Why is this allowed?
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>>143645144
Cause she's just a mob.
>>143645173
Then go ahead, my friend.
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>>143643284
But he's sorry! Please forgive him, enraged fans!
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>>143645125
>new
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So Mikleo wins? I thought that Alisha would win.
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>>143645117
>Sorey's penisbones
>Zaveid feet hiding his boner
>MIkleo perfect skin
Those fucker knew what they were doing.
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>>143645013

Everyone has bad days.
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>>143645168
Why not just watch reruns of Legend of the Blue Wolves?

It'd be a better use of your time.
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>>143645206
Don't worry, Zaveid doesn't have the brainpower to recognize a babe when he sees one.
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>>143645171
They're already pushing the pairing so fucking hard with all the changes they're making, fuck them.

It's obvious that it's just a ploy to pair the two girls so they can pander to the Sorey and Mikleo fan girls since they ALSO added a ton of bait material for them.
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>>143645251
>I thought that Alisha would win.
Anyone did a version of this featuring Rose?

I feel like we'll need one for this ride.
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>>143645251
Of course he wins. The game ends with them holding hands together in some ruins.
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>>143645208
Just noticed BudLightSubs is out so I guess I will get that instead.
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>>143645218
No. Fuck you Baba.
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>>143645366

so did this come from MAL or Reddit
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>>143645068
There is footage of Berseria gameplay and it will have the same shitty combat/item system of zestiria but you don't see everybody bitching about it right? because the problem it is waifufags.
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>>143642944
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FUCKING HARDSUBS
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>>143645366
>This is what passes for a heroine? Ugh, kill me now.

She is not the heroine. The heroine is actually a boy
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>>143645366
You got this from Redzit? Okay, now take it back to Redzit and never post it here again.
>Our system thinks your post is spam
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>>143645279
Because vanilla childhood friendship is my favorite kind of love.
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>>143645435
Except it's not the same. If you've been following the updates they made a lot of changes.
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>>143645435
But they will use the same engine as Xillia. So the movement wont be sluggish as fuck
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>>143645366
Play the game
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>>143645435
Except the combat of Zestiria was shit and if Berseria is exactly the same with no refinement then people will complain.
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>>143642944
NIPS HATE IT
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>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25456770
Hideo BABA dead or alive [MAD] video on niconico douga apparently have been deleted, anyone still have it?
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I just loaded this up with no prior knowledge of anything at all.

Loving the top notch animation already.
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>>143645588
Aren't lots of the ratings recently around 60-70?
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>>143645562
They hyped up Zestaria by saying that it would have he CC system, then proceeded to give us stiffness with shitty camera.
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>>143645366

Nice pasta faggot, now fuck off with your pathetic shitposting.
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>>143645641
>Aren't lots of the ratings recently around 60-70?
no, anything in the 1000 sales tier or lower will nab a 60, generally nips are pretty liberal with their opinion, 80% positive is pretty common for a first episode even of a shit series. Anything that breaks the 5000 unit sold line typically will rate in the mid to high 90s for pretty much it's whole run.
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>>143645641
Not really, it's usually always high around 80% and up since nicofags have low standards.
For the most recent one here's HXH preairing nico rating
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Can I watch it if I haven't played the game ? Are 13 episodes enough to adapt the full game ?
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>>143644959
>I like how still nobody is actually discussing the episode like it never happened

Nobody cares about Alisha, that's why.
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>>143645618
Looks incredibly bad in that shot.
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>>143645712
>>143645499
>>143645406

not a pasta, but nice samefag. you that assblasted about me correctly ripping that moronic first episode appart?
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>>143645758
I care about her failures and suffering.
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>>143643341
Yeah, everything I've heard and seen about Beseria has been purely positive. Looks pretty amazing for a prequel to one of the most disappointing Tales ever.

Love how the new producer wasn't afraid to take a risk, isn't this the first Tales with a FeMC? Heck, if there's a romance (and there looks like there will be a /ss/ relationship between Laphicet and Velvet if what they say and do in the trailers mean anything), it's a very uncommon dynamic.

Protagonist isn't a moralfag either, but, at the same time, I don't think she's an edgemaster. Think the same level of complexity as Yuri. Far better than the flattest character in the franchise yet, Sorey.

Looking forward to it, I'll probably even buy it.
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>>143645790
>he thinks we samefagged!
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>>143645717
What did Berserk have?
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>>143645285
Wow they're not even subtle with how fucking gay the MC is, that's amazing
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>>143645595
What is it about?
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>>143645790

Fuck off already newfag, nobody cares about your shitty opinions anyway.
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>>143645371
>male love interest grows a ponytail

Tell me this is canon
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>>143645999
It is, in the post credits scene of the game Mikleo has a pony tail
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>>143645915
>MY HATE
>MY REVENGE
>ARTORIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS
>complex character
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>>143645999
It is. At the end of the game, after centuries have passed, Mikleo is the only one to wait for Sorey. In the video he appears with the ponytail and wearing more white clothes. Of course he wins the Soreybowl.
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>>143645999
Yup. There's a timeskip at the very end and Mikleo grows glorious long hair.
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>>143645915
>isn't this the first Tales with a FeMC?
It's the second one. Though Milla had to share her spot with Jude.
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>>143645999
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBp5qKuV2hI
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>>143645978
Baba went missing after the zestiria fiasco, so they made a dead or alive warrant for him, and it went viral in nips land

i honestly think baba should just kill himself, faggot enabler like him are honestly creepy and disgusting
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>>143645999
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>>143645999
Yep he grows out his hair while waiting 700 years for the MC to wake up.
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>>143646138
purest waifu
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>>143646138
what happened to the other bitches?
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>>143645915
>Tales of makes an otome shit game
>Wow such risk and transgression
Pic related, what Berseria is going for and the female otaku demographic they want to catch on, it is so fucking obvious.
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>>143645588
The episode it's completely about Alisha, of course it's going to have low ratings.

Anyway, as you can see here: https://youtu.be/kMZD46WGPN0

The fujos will buy the shit out of this. I expected this to sell around 15-20K.
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Why can't Mikleo be girl instead?
She'd be the most perfect tales waifu
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Jesus christ, Funimation.

How stupid are you?
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>>143646228
Mikleo is the only one to show up in the epilogue.
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>>143646271
He's more pure because he's a boy.
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>>143646228
Dead due to old age
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>>143645562

the combat wasn't really the problem,

it was the super shitty AI on the NPC characters.

Especially on some of the tougher fights, they have two options, run away and stand still until the boss comes up and 1-shots them with a super long animation charge attack, or they suicide-dash in and get eaten alive.

Not to say that the combat wasn't shit, because it clearly was, but it wasn't THAT bad all things considered.
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>>143646119
Fag enabling is Baba's greatest achievement, and the best thing in any of the tales games. The only things he did wrong relate to Rose and gameplay.
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>>143646228
Humans are long ded.
Edna couldn't give enough fucks.
Zaveid was imprisoned for indecent exposure after humanity regained its ability to see spirits.
Lailah died from acute pneumonia.
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>>143646281
Which one is the HS rip?
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>>143646281
they're both wrong. it's Ancient Angelic Records, not celestial records or Seraphic Records, and who the fuck cares about placenames?
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>>143646281
>same sentences can be translated in different ways
is English the only language you know you cuck?
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>>143646271
Because girls are trash. Only boys are capable of being pure and worth loving.
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>>143646338
Funi
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>>143646326
>Lailah died from acute pneumonia.
Fuck you
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>>143646293
How about this Rose slut?
Is she implied to die pure waiting for Sorey too?
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>>143646271
Because hetshit is completely disgusting and absolutely not pure.
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>>143646326
Low blow.
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>>143646359
Celestial Record is the localized game term. Daisuki subs is keeping with that, unlike Funimation.
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>>143646410
>Is she implied to die pure waiting for Sorey too?
She atleast fucked Alisha
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>>143645366
>muh lgbtqxrz otp wasn't in episode 1 so it's shit
kill yourself familia
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>>143646326
>Lailah died from acute pneumonia.
I bet you thought that was funny don't you?
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>>143646047
>>143646070
>>143646077
>>143646090
>>143646136
>>143646138
yesssssssssssssss

Fuck it, I'm playing this game
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>>143646326
>Lailah died from acute pneumonia
every fucking thread
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>>143646234
>Otome
>What Berseria is going for and the female otaku demographic they want to catch on, it is so fucking obvious.
hahahaha your denial is really funny
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>>143646580
>implying Bamco gives a fuck about overseas landwhale prudes
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>>143646580

>thinks japan has SJW's

they're not fucking retards

http://nichegamer.com/2016/03/01/japanese-representative-refutes-un-suggestion-to-ban-media-depicting-sexual-violence/


Now fuck off back to /v/
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>>143646637
>>143646659
>http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/04/22/tales-of-berseria-velvets-outfit-wont-be-censored-producer-thinks-fans-want-the-original-experience/

>“I promise. Velvet’s costume will surely be the same in the western version. The design of that costume is created by Mutsumi Inomata, and she created that costume based on the character’s concept and setting, and on the storyline.

>I believe that those who support the Tales Of series like to have exactly the same content as the Japanese version. We believe it’s ideal and the best option to bring exactly the same game experience and design to the western countries. I promise that Velvet is still Velvet in the western version.”

HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>143646580
To be honest I feel velvet outfit is just to bait male audience to buy the game for her. Otherwise, It seems more like a shojo setting.
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>>143646553
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>>143645588
Completely understandable once you read >>143643284
Not even if it was a masterpice would it get good reviews.
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>>143646734
Yeah except for the fact that slut witch exists too.
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I liked the game's OP better
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>>143646234
That's not bad at all though, that's the manliest anime you will ever see.
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I hope Zesteria fucking made it clear to the Tales teams that the fucking CC system does not work well with that fucking shitty 3rd person view they had in Graces.

It's just remarkable that they fuck up so bad. Tales characters are supposed to be fun, and the combat is what makes fans stay since every Tales story is essentially the same recycled shit since they have yet to top Phantasia's story. I hope this anime sucks, and that everyone watching gets cancer. An utter insult to the fanbase.
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>>143646119
Zestiria romance was just the culmination of everything Tales is
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>>143646734
>Shojo setting
>muh Revenge
>muh family murder
>skimpily dressed protagonist
yes they went for shojo settings, it just happen the mc is a slutty one, not to mention we will get her outfit where we can see her sideboobs and underboobs at the same time, genius!!
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>>143646844
GOTTA BE WHITE
I"M GOING TO SHIT THE BED
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>>143646832
It's common to see the femc with their female friend or yuri bait character, just like sorey have mikleo.
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>>143646659
>>143646580
I don't hate Velvet costume because it shows skin, I hate it because it looks fucking retarded.
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>>143646250
Isnt this suppose to sell like 30k though?
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>>143646939
It's a good thing baba has been getting rid of, happy times ahead

the new producer sounds like a cool bro
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t3xnJTJmkE

>Velvet is similar to Milla, is it just a coincidence? Fukaya: Milla was very important in the process of Velvet's creation, because Milla is one of most beloved characer of the series, not only in Japan, but even in Europe and North America. So no, it was not a coincidence, and it was very difficult to create a character like Milla.
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>The anime will change the ending, making it an alisha ending
How mad will you be?
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>>143646986
Except the yuri bait character is not-Rose.
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>>143647054

it would be an improvement.

I really disliked how hamfisted rose was into the latter parts of the game.
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>>143646939
>No Julius
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>we could have had this for an OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfQkGqno85Q
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>>143647054
Not very. It would require the entire story to be wildly different for either girl to be relevant, so all expectations would have flown out the window long before.
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>>143647154
The story is already starting to diverge heavily.
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>>143647114

They'll use it as an insert for the cour finale like they did with This Illusion.
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>>143646250

Not happening without some kind of major game release tie-up which of course is possible with Bandai Namco. Outside of that 6-8K average is it's ceiling like for most things.
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Why do people hate on sorey? He is way too cute.
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>>143647114
Knowing Ufotable they might use it in the last episode like what they did with F/SN and This Illusion. They were perfectly happy using the game's OST in this episode, which I was glad to hear. I love Ladylake's theme.
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>>143647054
It wouldn't be the first adaptation to completely miss the point of the source material, so I wouldn't be surprised. That said, I doubt it will happen. They know where the big dollars are.
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>>143647054
I wouldn't complain, but I also wouldn't cheer.
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>>143647209
Adding filler is not heavily diverging.
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>>143646136
>Long hairs on a boy
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>>143647266
They said that they would change the story, because the game was kind of a mess. So it is perfectly possible.
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>>143647244
>Hate on Sorey
Literally no one ever
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>>143647114
Thank god we didn't get it. Disgusting.
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>Hey cool it's a thread about the new Tales anime and it's actually moving

Oh hey it's just idiots arguing the same tired shit yet again. I can't stress how little I fucking care about Hideo Baba either way at this point.
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>>143647273
What would be the best ending for you then?
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>>143647251
Velvet is such a sexy slut, and i love it
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>>143647244
Some people just can't appreciate vanilla heroes that are portrayed as good people. They need suffering, angst and moral grey areas to be satisfied.
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>>143647054
Pretty goddamn mad, SoreyxMikleo is the only acceptable ending
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>>143645716

None of what you said has any bearing on reality let alone is any sort of hard rule
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>>143644468
>>143647114
I love FLOW but I wish they kept the game OP.
NA NA NANANANA NA NA NA NA
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>>143647054
What if they make Alisha so relevant that she dies.
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>>143647295
It's not just filler if it contradicts the events of the original game.
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>>143647397
Tales franchise would die.
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>>143647325
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>>143645110

Do whatever you want. Fuck why are you asking me, make up your own damn mind
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>>143647378
Sorey is too pure for this world.
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>>143647405
If it doesn't involve the two characters who actually matter, it's irrelevant. They have a lot of room to fix the supporting cast however they want.
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>>143647342
Anything but a Rose ending.
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>>143647399
Can someone tell me why she's in the OP when she's someone from the distant past?

Also is Go Shiina the one composing for the anime? Please tell me at least his songs will be used.
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>>143647303
Yeah, but hopefully they plan to just fix the actual problems while leaving the parts that worked well alone. Removing the BL aspects would be like flushing money down the toilet, and they seem to be aware of that.
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>>143647466
What would make you cheer? You made me curious.
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>>143647394

It's not like there being a separate OP for the anime like all Tales adaptations literally ever suddenly makes the game one no longer exist
>>
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>>143647054
I doubt it will happen because UFO likes Mikleo and Sorey/Mikleo but if it does, I would just be disappointed because they changed the most important relationship of the story to please the waifufags.
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https://youtu.be/kMZD46WGPN0

With all this cheering I'm starting to wonder how many actually played Zestiria or just saw fanart of Mikleo and Sorey on tumblr and hopped on the fujo train
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>>143647251
Is that Eleanor?
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>>143647471
Because Zestiria anime is literally made to promotes her game, anything else is irrelevant
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>>143647322
This girl here >>143645915, he shouldn't take those comments seriously, it's pretty obvious it was written by a female teenager who think muh anger and rage equals "depth", and being polite and nice like sorey equals "boring".
You see a lot of those femnazis flaming in harem threads.
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>>143647471

Nobody knows yet, isn't it obvious? Why don't people watch the show and find out instead of asking the same question over and over expecting an answer that isn't going to come yet?
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>>143644470
Didn't happen in the game, but could very well happen as we didn't know much about Alisha's recent struggles prior to metting Sorey nor her relation with Lunarre.
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>>143647519
It's not like it bombed in the west, anon. Lots of fujos play jrpgs.
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>>143647520
Nah. Could be Lailah though.
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>>143647519
>Fujo
>playing a games on console or high end pc
Fujos are poor as fuck, most of them can't even afford BDs, most of those fujoshi haven't even play the game
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This actually reminds me that I still haven't started on Xillia 2 and I guess Zestiria as well.

What's the verdict on those two? Judging by this thread, I think I already know the answer for the latter.
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>>143647519
At least I am playing it now. I get the criticism but I am still enjoying it.
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>>143644199
Pretty much. And this vocal minority won't shut the fuck up despite the anime seemingly fixing the problems with the game already in this episode.
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>>143647577
It kinda bombed though, it's selling rather poorly in the west
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>>143647519

I just think they're actual fans of the franchise and game and probably don't care about stupid drama or following the narrative that /a/ shitposters think they should be. It's really not that fucking hard to comprehend at all.
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>>143647608
Play it anyway, I am enjoying it in spite of the criticism, I have to play Xillia, how good is it?
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> [BudLightSubs] Tales of Zestiria the X - 00 [720p].mkv
Daisuki rip
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I haven't watched the ep yet but skimmed the first few middle minutes of it.

I saw a whole lot of Alisha. More than the game itself.

Is Ufotable gonna cover Baba's ass or are they gonna do it their own way? Because I would really hate if they will follow Baba's fucked up narrative.
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So this is a BL anime?

The only thing I was interested in was Kayano voicing a female lead but sounds like a char she plays gets shit all over again as usual.
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>>143647642
>actual fans
>only care about shipping
>most of them never played the game
yeah nope
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>>143647054
Fujo tears will be worth it.
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>>143647684
They said in an explicit way that they are fixing all the problems of the game, basically a fuck you to Baba.
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>>143647684
>muh Baba

Fuck off.
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>>143647471
they're probably gonna jam her in as a seraphim,flashback scenes,someone's relative,maotelus, or a new role

>>143647608
From what I've heard Xillia 2's pretty solid technically just that because it uses the smae world as the first some assets get reused and that bugged people, also the story was a dark for a tales game.
But overall it seems like a solid entry,I plan on getting to it soon as well.
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>>143647634
>150,000+ on PC alone
Nope.
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>>143647491
Sorey, Meebo, and Alisha's ruins adventure ending.
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>>143647712
Who said they can't care about both? Quit trying to warp reality to suit your agenda.
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>>143647630

Are you honestly surprised?
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>>143647767
Now that is indeed better.
>>
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>>143647054
this>>143647713
I await the shitposting and massive butthurt that would occur,also because if timed right it would occur around the same time Nisekoi is expected to end.
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>>143647762

Yeah it did really well on Steam especially. People really want to construct a certain narrative around this game and franchise though so reality has no bearing in these threads. It's just a complete waste of time arguing with these shitposters
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>>143647778
Have you ever played the game? then you know why it's so hated in japan and in the west
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>>143647808
fuck yeah ufotable
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>>143647713
>>143647814
It's time to give it up. Waifufags already lost a long time ago.
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>>143647808
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>>143647808

I want her to sit on my face
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>>143647634
>>143647577
Game bombing in the firs week tells more about Xillia though than anything, though.

>>143647653
>>143647608
Xillia is a rushed piece of shit. Game "connection" areas is LITERALLY the same area recycled over and over for ALL the game. The sub-quests are poor, and the game felt very rushed, you can tell it to every corner. Costumes are also all DLC except some shitty recolor.

Xillia 2 has the most interesting plot in a Tales of since a long time, hate it, love it, it will leave an impression. Xillia 2 also recycles EVERYTHING from Xillia 1, enjoy going through these recolored canyons AGAIN.

The series also has Alvin, who is the most fuckable Tales of character to date.


Tales of Zestiria is just mediocre. It felt like the game designed didn't know how to the design a good game, you can tell this especially with the obnoxious skill system. Dungeons are also too big for their own good.
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>>143647841
Yeah, because of hypocritical waifufags like you who 'only care about shipping'.

The game has some big flaws, but it's not bad and it's certainly not hated by anybody with a cool head.
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>>143647878
And now it's time for crack shippers to have their fantasy crushed.
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>all this Alisha sufferings

My dick is so hard right now.
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>>143647829
>>143647762
Toppest kek, let's see here
on the first 2 months, it only sold 85k~ish, which is pretty low, even neptunia re:birth 1 sold 120k in it's first week

and if we're talking of the console release it's sold 58k (ps3 and ps4) on US and NA based on NPD monthly report.

so roughly about 150k in western release ( including europe, NA, US, and steam sales, physical and digital)
it's a low number considering xillia sold 200k~ish in it's first month in ps3 console only (and it's still not counting the digital download for xillia)
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>>143644470
that's not a problem, but they clearly made a mistake in this episode: both Rose and Alisha shouldn't see Lunarre mutating in Hellion because they have not that power yet.

In late game when Rose met Lunarre again, she notices how he's always been a Hellion.
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>>143643612

Picture how Western fans who barely know anything about the franchise or game and what went on in Japan last year go on and on about this stuff and now imagine that much of retarded outrage only with a chunk of psycho otaku that are actually kind of invested in this franchise beyond just shitposting for you's on the internet.
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>>143647929
SO do I skip xillia 1?
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>>143645790
Fuck off back to your containment board, fujoshit.
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>>143642944
Good, didn't liked the CG Tornado but that one skirmish was pretty good.
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>>143647945

Dude don't actually give that much of a fucking shit about your petty arguing and narrative building. Talk at someone else
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>>143647935
>fantasy
The game is gay as fuck. Nothing's going to change that.
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>>143647945
yawn
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>>143646367
Daisuki uses the game terminology and Funimation doesn't. Funimation's Danganronpa subs did the same.
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>>143647972
You need 1 for 2, so no.

But don't expect much, it's a VERY rushed game.
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>>143647729
Fuck off.
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>>143647490
>Implying fujoshit have money

>conveniently forgetting all the multiple fujoshit flops this year like Young Black Jack
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>>143647702
Not really. It's basically your typical harem-esque JRPG turned into an anime. Except there are hints that the boy wins the MC.
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Man after a fairly decent first couple hundred or so posts in the first thread this went south really goddamn fast. Guess it's time to add yet another show doomed to endless shitposting to the list. What is that like virtually everything that's aired so far this season?
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Clouds of the year.
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>>143648083
Blame waifufags
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>>143647728
Well, time will tell. They have some major fixing to do because of his fuckups.
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>>143648032

My thought exactly
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>>143648073
>YBJ
>fujoshit
>anything I don't like that has male characters is fujoshit
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>>143647930
Are you conveniently forgetting all the problem this game have: nips even made a whole wikipedia listing it's fault
>http://www52.atwiki.jp/tozsougiwiki/pages/14.html
why don't you just read this thread, it never was only about waifu >143624274
you clearly haven't played this game
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>>143648083
Blame fujo, they didn't even play the game.
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>>143647702
Yeah, it's even gayer than Seraph.
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>>143648111

It's just typical shitposters looking for more pointless arguments with people. Has nothing to do with any particular demographic, board or opinion, it's stupid fucking people being stupid fucking people. Surprise!
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>it's the wiki linking shitposter again
How nostalgic.
Report and ignore.
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>>143648094
I don't like them. Doesn't mesh well.
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>>14364808

The start of every season gets an increase in shitposting. If you weren't a newshit you would know that.
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>>143648168
Yes and no, seraph was just really gay. Sorey and mikleo is more about bro relationship than anything.
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>>143642944
Who is this semen demon? I'm assuming that she is the best girl.
So is the game worth it to play? I mean because of the size (9gb+). I can't download efficiently because third world country problems. Only played Phantasia, Eternia and Hearts R from tales series.
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>>143648153

What does that have to do with literally anything?
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I don't get it, is Velvet the Lord of Calamity this time? I thought she was the first Lord of Calamity that lived hundreds of years ago. What is she doing in the present day?
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>>143648183
>report truth I don't like
Are you a woman
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>>143648168
Back to your containment board.
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>>143648224
I live in a third world country and torrented in an hour. Come on man.
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>>143648224
>I'm assuming that she is the best girl.
>So is the game worth it to play?
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>>143648209

More like the entire season every season. I'm really not seeing a particular correlation between any specific point in a season and shitposting. It depends who is logged on and when and how much time idiots have to waste.
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>>143648137
>Fujoshit in denial as usual
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>>143643284
Frankly I don't even know why Baba is still their for Berseria, albeit I think it's just a minor role now.

Also I do remember the staff split into 2 causing rifts during production.

Also, didn't Rose's VA actually have a bf? She essentially cucked Baba out.
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>>143648224
You might enjoy it, but you need to keep your expectations restrained and avoid walls.
And that isn't best girl.
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>>143648224
>best girl
No, that's
>>143643637
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>>143648224
Yeah sure give it a shot.
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>>143648224
It's worth playing if you like Tales
>best girl
I like bullying so I guess.
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>>143648183
I don't think you understand what shitposting means.
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>>143647490
>fujo
>money
My sides
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Zesty is my 2nd least favorite tales game but i think it is potentially salvagable with some heavy rewrites. Im hoping this will do just that and not spoil berseria in any way.

I just hope rose isnt the massive mary stu she was in the game. She took so much out of the game.

>>143648182
Zestiria is a poor game its not just shitposting. People have been burned and they do need more than just this ep to reasure people this will fix the games messy storyline which drops tons of plotpoints and lore for no real reason.
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>>143648267
Probably worse than yours. I'm from flipland. That will take me like 4-6 hours for sure.
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>They're changing the entire story
Source or it didn't happen

>>143647327
They're retarded. This will likely last for a couple more weeks, at most when Alisha leaves the fucking party again.

>>143647814
Might as well give up because of how unlkely that is.
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Ah it's been so long since I've been in a Tales thread. Good to see that it still hasn't changed one bit.
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>>143648324
But anon that's a boy. I t-think.
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>>143648446
Will the waifufag tears ever stop flowing?
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Baba has never showed up in public again after the Zestiria Armageddon hasn't he?
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>>143648286
Early season always has shitposters prowling around every thread until they find their comfort zone and which shows they want to commit a full season of shitposting to. Unfortunately Tales will see shitposting all season because it's popular, but less popular shows will see the shitposting die down almost entirely after the first week or two.
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>>143648374
>the story drops tons of plotpoints and lore
I've seen this claim before but have never actually seen it proven.
Go ahead.
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>>143648525
That's what makes him the best.
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>>143648532
I don't think he has much control over the franchise either.
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>>143648529
When you bleed.
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>>143648366

I always assumed it meant just flinging shit around in every direction by just saying random incendiary bullshit and picking equally random fights with other people about who fucking cares tier subjects. It's just the act of being really fucking stupid and flooding threads with just complete garbage posts rehashing the same pointless faux outrage instead of having real discussions. I think /a/ fits the bill almost every season now personally and that it might as well be the vast majority of it's posting content. Most of this thread is now shitposting, the last thread had a bit of real discussion but then was also just flooded with typical "durr hurr hurr Baba" and "Hurr durr Alisha vs. Rose" shitposting crap from a year ago. Back then it might have been a real story worth following and paying attention too, now with the anime it's just pure grade shitposting.
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Can someone link me to the source where Ufotable is actually tring to fix Baba's fuck ups?
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>>143648525
Nips seem to think that he's like the Xillia spirits due to a Tales event and can change his gender at will. If you want you can take up their headcanon.
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>>143648689
There isn't one. Stop listening to agenda posters in this thread.
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Wasn't FUNi supposed to switch to softsubs months ago?

What are these incompetent shits doing?
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>>143648374

So what you're saying is we need to have a season or two's worth of threads rehashing these points. If people want to bitch endlessly about the show itself then it's like whatever but at least it'd be a fresh topic. The fact that we're turning this into a /v/ discussion that's already been done to fucking death, that's the full throttle shitposting. Like I get it, a lot of people didn't like the game, why are they fucking here watching the anime if it's still that big a deal instead of just moving on but for the fact that it's shitpostin' time?
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>>143644642
Daisuki is free so you can just watch it there.
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This might as well be a full CG anime.

Also are video games still following this brown is real trend?
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>>143648532
Well he's a faggot enabler, i think he's contemplating of suicide right now

>http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/05/08/japan-70-of-lgbt-pupils-bullied-in-school-30-contemplate-suicide/
>Japan: 70% of LGBT pupils bullied in school, 30% contemplate suicide
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>>143648761
I think that the only agenda posters are those who think that that Nips actually like Zestiria's story.
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>>143648761
Sure. Just (you) me back when you find the links.
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>>143648540

Okay that I will believe. That seems to reflect possible reality enough to make sense as a reason actually.
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>>143648850
My god, fuck off
>>143648855
Shouldn't you be the one doing that? Since you're claiming they exist and all.
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>>143643284
Nips need to chill the fuck out. The game had its issues, like the camera and item fusing system, but it did absolutely nothing to warrant this kind of reaction. Swapping out one shitty character for another part way through is not worth getting butthurt about, especially in a series where most of the characters are shit anyway.
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>>143643414
>character is voice by well known VA
>game is the best thing ever

You are pathetic
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>>143648842
>Downloading 720p Funi rips

Please tell me nobody else does this.
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>>143648960
not him but what's exactly wrong with that?
I thought most anime was 720p?
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>>143646271
Because that would just be unfair to the other girls.
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>>143648804
>Why are they fucking here watching the anime if it's still that big a deal instead of just moving on but for the fact that it's shitpostin' time?
Mental retardation strikes alot of people. They've probably been waiting for the anime to come out just to cry about it again, instead of waiting to see if they actually improve upon it. Too bad they're too retarded to do that.
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I don't get why everyone is complaining about Zestiria when Xilla and Xilla 2 were much worse games.
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Never played the games
Don't know what's going on but it looks amazing
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>>143646271
He would just be a shittier Raine.
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>>143649013
The keyword is Funi, same applies to Crunchyroll though.

Their 720 basically sucks dick compared to 1080p because there needs to be a difference so that streamfags justify paying for their service.

And nowadays anime is higher than 720 a lot of the time.
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>>143648924
Nah, their reaction are justified, and thanks for that, we're now free from baba's bullshit. the next tales game seems promising already
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>>143648960
are you one of those kiss anime stream fags ?
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>>143647378
That's the reason why people hate Sorey. It's because he hardly does anything even though he's the MC. He just does what the seraph tells him to do.
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>>143648923
You're talking to more than one person you know?

Common sense anon.
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>>143649050
Those were bad but they weren't worse than Zestiria

>>143649051
Don't play the most recent ones
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>>143648960
I thought it was Daisuki.
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>>143649126
Even Nips complain about that aspect of Sorey's character.
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>>143642944
>What's the verdict on the first episode?

I have absolutely no idea what is happening/10
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>>143649130
So, I take it you don't have the links then.
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So how was the episode?
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Why does she sit like that?
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I somewhat wanted Seraph-Human romance in this game. And I don't count Meebo and MC. That'd be gay and also disgusting since they're childhood friends.

Maybe MC and Lailah. In fact MC and Lailah was the only choice since Edna's like 8 years old or some shit. Sucks that nothing happened in the end though.
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>>143649100
really? That's interesting, the funny thing is I just switched to torrenting 720p this season,prior I was using 1080p but some anons told me those were just poor upscales
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>>143649302
Best looking anime of the season
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>>143649270
It's what happened before Sorey found Alisha in the ruins
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>>143649302

Overall pretty good. Alot of Alisha suffering though.
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>>143648924
>The game had its issues, like the camera and item fusing system, but it did absolutely nothing to warrant this kind of reaction
How about the weak gameplay (especially in mparison to Graces F), boring dungeons (hope you enjoy identical caves and ruins without any puzzles to break the monotony), pathetic side-quests (lol ednas brother), and the dumb gem-hunting fetch quest towards the end of the game?
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>>143649319
squatz and oats
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>>143646580
And yet this is okay
Not that I'm complaining of course but you know
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>>143649385
>mparison
comparison*
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Any chance they'll extend Eizen's side quest in the anime?
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>>143649341
Actually they are, it's just that some streaming services make the quality worse for 720p
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>>143649284
Anon, Nips hate the Zestiria story, and since Velvet is going to be in it then goes without saying they're not following Zestiria's story.

Are you really so daft?
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>>143643284
tl;dr me on what went wrong?

I only watched a video of the first half hour of the game and got bored, but it didn't look that offensive
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>>143649337
>not counting the canon pairing
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>>143648947

I'm pretty sure he just likes Rina Satou and is saying as such in a different way in relation to the character and never said anything about the game being the best thing ever. Why so triggered?
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>>143648842
Video game looks better
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>>143649444
I see,thanks for the heads up
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>>143649450
tl;dr a shitty waifu got shoved aside for another shitty waifu, then they both got shoved aside for best boy to make room for a canonically gay ending
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>>143649411
Fujoshi and their double standards, what's new?
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>>143648924
>The game had its issues, like the camera and item fusing system, but it did absolutely nothing to warrant this kind of reaction

You must be joking right? The gameplay was awful in every single way. The reaction is more than justified
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>>143649337
>childhood friend romance
>disgusting
So much shit taste.
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>>143649048

I don't doubt it for a fucking second. They probably just hadn't woken up yet or weren't near their devices for the first couple hours after it aired. I also somehow don't think seeing if the anime improves on some things from the game is a consideration here either. At this rate this is a /v/ topic though not an anime episode thread
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>>143649337
>disgusting since they're childhood friends
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>>143648073
Some fujo stuff flops, some sell. Like everything

As fa fujo stuff YBJ went, it was pretty weak anyway.
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>>143649050
Fuck off fujo
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>>143648842
Ufotable's getting pretty good with CGshit, at least they only use it for monsters and scenery

Other studios take notes
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>>143649531
master troll
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>>143649450
They're trying to pander to fujo crowd, it failed and backfired on them
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>>143649531
They are brothers though if we go by the initial settings. Everything else is just fujobait.
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>>143649531
Yes, only that, ONLY.
Perfect game otherwise right
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>>143649319
Thinking about Eizen.
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>>143649534
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>>143649534
I kinda want actually hurt this double standard whore in real life, she fucking pissed me off
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>>143649337
Homo love is the only love, and childhood friendship is the purest kind of homo love. Rethink your life.
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I don't know if it's just still lingering hangover from Canada Day celebrations but I swear reading this thread literally gave me a hangover. Like less than 12 hours and already two maxed out thread. I don't know if I can do /a/ this season if this is any sort of sign of what it's going to be like for most shows.
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>>143649536
The biggest complaints amongst the Nips is that the time wasted waifufagging should have been spent polishing the game.
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>>143649430
If ufotable knows what they're doing, they won't miss this chance.
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>>143649337
>Edna's like 8 years old
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>>143649593
It failed because the game was mediocre all hell.

Tales of has been pandering fujos since ToS/ToA (Depending who you ask)
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>>143649536
>The gameplay was awful in every single way
Please explain how, because so far nobody has.
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>>143649337
Edna is an old lady though.
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>>143649700
>not ToD at the absolute latest
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>>143649673
The biggest complain is because they remove alisha, and shitty camera, shitty story, shitty gameplay and shitty mc
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>>143649337
>Edna
>8 years old
she might as well be a super-cake
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I liked it
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>>143649730
She's my kind of old lady, if you catch my drift.
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>>143649593
It didn't fail because they make their money off of the Sorey and Mikleo merch. The only worst thing that can happen to them is them just losing some fans towards buying the game.
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>>143649743
Only in the delusional minds of Rosefags, read the last thread anon.
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>>143649740
I never saw the Destiny fujo pandering to be honest, I know Japanese girls get their panties wet at the sole mention of Leon, but meh.
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>>143649337
>only choice since Edna's like 8 years old
>implying that doesn't makes her better
Come on, next Tales game is gonna have /ss/, we can have a small dose of loli romance.
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>>143649700
>That nose
It looks ridiculous.
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>>143649593
>it failed and backfired on them
This meme again huh. Is that why they're doing it again?

>>143649599
>they're brothers
Not biologically so what's your point? They were given the soulmates title in game.
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>>143649700
Nah, everyone know the actual reason why this game is so hated is because they're trying to pander fujoshit to the point of removing the main female character, anything else is just an icing on the cake
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>>143649673
The biggest complain is everything. There is a wiki for a reason. It's a trainwreck of a game full of terrible game design choices (some specifically to jew you out of your money) which would be tolerable for some people if the writing and characters were good (see Legendia) which is not the case because the script is terrible too.
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So is this anime going to be fujoshit?
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>>143649833
Fuck you, you just ruined one of my favorite Tales of fap and the only decent Yuri/Flynn douijin I have.

>>143649851
>point of removing the main female character,
You know the game co-lead, Rose, it's far more present than Mikleo as far plot goes?
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>>143649592
What is going on in this pic? Someone explain.
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>>143649730
I want to fuck that old lady.
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>>143649878
60%
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>>143649843
>They were given the soulmates title in game.
Why are people trying to argue? Even the game acknowledges then as OTP.
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>>143649843
Are you literally retarded? this anime is obviously to promotes the upcoming berseria games, trhat's why we have berseria's MC in the Opening, etc
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>>143649851
>muh ebin fujos
Alisha or Rose there or not, Mikleo's relationship with Sorey would still be the most important and he would still reunite with him in the end. You think Rose took the role of love interest from Alisha or something? Don't make me laugh.
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>>143649884
Mikleo is Sorey's "Sub Lord".
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>>143649884
Soulmates doing soulmate things.
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>>143649867
I know I just summed up the bottom line to their complaints.
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>>143649883
I'm sorry. But I'm sure Yuri/Flynn doujins aren't rare.
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>>143643126
So just like the game, then.
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>>143649337
>Edna's like 8 years old
She looks older than that.
And she's too good for a boring shit like Sorey anyway.
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>>143649994
SAVAGE
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>>143649884
Pure love.
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>>143649883
>Rose
>more presence than Mikleo plot wise
Anon...
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>>143649851
>video game and anime are only allowed to pander to me specifically!
Fuck off hypocrite.
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>>143649966
Yeah, but most them look like total shit.
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>>143643284
>>Death threat and harrasment to fujishima (rose and sorey character designer) so much that he had to delete his twitter

But Fujishima is a bro, he drew this
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>>143649913
Are you? You just said 'they pandered to the fujo crowd, and it failed and backfired on them' which couldn't be further from the truth if they're doing it AGAIN in the fucking anime.

Or are you in denial that part of this anime's appeal is towards fujoshis who buy Tales merch religiously?
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>>143650006
He's right though. She's as relevant as Sergei.
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>>143649912
And that means Sorey is gay because he is close with someone who he views as his brother?
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>>143649883
And do they care? do you know nips really disgusted by gay people to the point if you make gay people to commit suicide, it won't even be a crime?
see>>143648849

>>143649938
and that;s why this game is the most hated tales of games, i'm glad they kicked that faggot enabler after this fiasco
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>>143649994
heh
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>>143649995
How tall she is?
Her chest and her ass are completely flat so she should be prepubescent, I don't think she has looks more than 10.
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>>143649883
>Rose
>present in the plot at all
Nope.
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>>143650031
Is that Tear from ToA?
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>>143650075
145cm
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>>143650025
Mikleo was so overexaggerated in importance, the guy is barely there after the first 6 hours and the flashback at the end
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>>143642944
>Alishia being plot relevant
Nice fan fiction first episode
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>>143649713
Did you play any game of the series?Because it's a really fucking long rant.
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>>143650103
No, it's probably a character from his manga. Bamco wouldn't allow lewds from the character designers.
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>>143650062
It's fine to think of them as brotherly, but Sorey's behavior is the weak link in this interpretation because he doesn't really treat Mikleo that way unless you believe that only brothers can occasionally rib each other. That whole sequence after pulling the sword is waifufaggotry 101 from him.
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>>143650108
Now, that's strange. I suppose she could be an underdeveloped 11yo, if she has actual age at least.
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>>143650078
>>143650025
Did you actually play the game?

Rose is your second-on screen character, Mikleo gets tons of screentime in the beginning, but once Rose joins the party, he kinda fades in background like everyone else the game shift to Rose/Dezel drama. Even his temple doesn't say much about him.

Plus, it's not like the game lack of romance. Vesperia didn't have any romance either, heck one of the most popular pairing is Estelle/Rita, Namco basically married them in the PS3 version.
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>>143650112
So was Rose, the middle part of the game is mostly stop the war, and then collect the spiritual powers.
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>>143650208
>Plus, it's not like the game lack of romance necessarily means anything

HURR.*
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>>143650062
When did Sorey said in the game he views Mikleo as a brother?
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>>143649912
Waifufags aren't known for their ability to deal with reality. You could have animated sex scenes between them and there would still be deniers.
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>>143650208
>nobody believes my stupid narrative because the game obliterates it
>better claim they didn't play
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>>143650197
She isn't human so it's useless to think that hard.
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>>143650208
Rose's only presence in the plot is pretty much just her killing the Cardinal and then that side plot with Dezel that wasn't connected to anything and went no where.
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>>143650174
The game is fulled with fujobait but that doesn't necessarily take away from the character setting. Sorey wasn't raised properly as a normal human so what he may find normal would be different from what others may find normal. Mikleo and him having a close bond is obvious with or without the fujobait because he is family to him.
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Beside the beginning and the thing with Muse, Mikleo was irrelevant.
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>>143650280
I don't know, but claiming Rose isn't more important than Mikleo is fuckign retarded, once you get past his arc in the beginning, he barely does jack shit until the very ending sequence.
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>>143650048
Yes, and it failed, and now the're trying to backpedal hard with tales of berseria

the anime is already planned, it's also for tales 30th anniversary after all, and the anime is mostly for setting up the story and lore for berseria, their setting are in the same world after all
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>>143650108

No way
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>>143650261
It's in that Zestiria settings book for the game.
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>>143650112
I half agree, half disagree.

Rose has more shine than anyone in the party, besides Sorey. Mikleo, like the other Seraphs, doesn't really develop beyond his initial 'I'll be by Sorey's side'.

However Mikleo has more importance than Rose solely because the villain of the game wouldn't even exist if he weren't a sacrifice. Just leave the computer.

>>143650174
>>143650261
>people think this is 'brotherly'
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>>143650053
Sergei should have been a playable character. It really seemed like they were setting up for it but they never went there.
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>>143650280
So you haven't played the game then?
as expected of fujoshi, too poor to buy a console or high-end pc, i kinda pity you
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>>143650158
Damn. It looks a lot like Tear. Too bad.
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>>143645125
You don't know what vagina bones are.
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>>143650319
You don't even understand how fortunate you are, Rose.
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>>143649884
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>>143650349
Yes way. http://toz.tales-ch.jp/chara/edna.php
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>>143650333
But it wasn't them pandering to fujo that ruined Zestiria. In fact, that was their small cushion for when they fell. This entire thread already lists the main reason why Zestiria flopped, and fujobait was a rather small one all considering.

But don't worry, I won't reply to this level of autism again. Here's your (You)
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>>143649950
>>143649843
SHUT UP YOU GUYS

I totally hold hands and call my soulmate a 'babe' all the time it doesn't mean we're gay, we're just manly guys doing manly things together

Me and my soulmate gaze deeply into each others eyes and have canon ending together where we hold hands all the time you guys are just reading into it

I mean I totally think about blowing my bro all the time it's totally heterosexual I'm not gay and besides if they have long hair and a feminine penis then it's fine

God

>not snuggling with your brother-in-arms/soulmate
>2016
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>>143650445
ok retard
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Edna best girl.
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>>143650547
Kurata?
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Reminder that even Lailah knows the girls are irrelevant.
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>>143650448
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>>143650547
Don't forget that they sleep in the same bed together, too.
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>>143650522
>But it wasn't them pandering to fujo that ruined Zestiria. In fact, that was their small cushion for when they fell. This entire thread already lists the main reason why Zestiria flopped, and fujobait was a rather small one all considering.

Pretty much. If Alishia was the main heroine instead of Rose, the game would still ultimately fail because of the many story/gameplay problems.
You'd just have less mad waifufags.
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>>143650448
Being Dezel's rape victim is fortunate?
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>>143650618
>Taking a screenshot out of its context
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Mikleo is a brother that could have been like a waifu to me.
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>>143650669
>rape
It's a line from the DLC.
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>>143650698
The context is she's talking about the boys. It becomes even more clear when they reveal what Zenrus's plan was all along.
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Rose was a black hole that stole agency from both Sorey and Alisha as characters.
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>>143650392
Blame the kamui mechanic, really the group needed more human characters overall.
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Any non-shit subs?
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>Every Zesty /a/ thread will be a discussion on whatever they are gay or not
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>>143650735
I wonder what's the full picture.
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>still no Senel strap
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>>143650811
>Every Zesty /a/ thread will be a thinly veiled /v/ circlejerk for people still not over how bad the game was
Ftfy
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>>143650522
>This denial
let's face it people are disgusted by fujoshit, it's the main reason why this game is hated everywhere
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>>143650280
>>143650310
but he's right though,after Mikleo's initial development in the beggining he fades away only to appear in cutscenes or skits as comedic relief or to remind the player that "oh yeah, this guy's your childhood friend"
that's fine and all but baba really shoves Rose into the second half with Lailah and Edna getting more focus too when the plot starts focusing on Sorey's decision to kill or not
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>>143650790
Yes, read the thread.
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>>143650748
I know, but having Dezel ruin her marriage, go inside her and do as he pleases with her body doesn't sound to fortunate is all.
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>>143650811
There's no need for discussion, it's already cemented as fact. The only question is when the bitter waifushitters will finally leave and take their tired rants back to /v/.
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>>143650563
These are, but not the 3 you'd quoted before.
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>>143650646
Apparently not in the anime. I am not 100% sure from the spoilers I read but Sorey visits Mikleo in his house where we see Mikleo wearing pajamas.

In the game it was left to the fan interpretation but we shall see in the anime.
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>>143650669
>you will never invade Rose's body and make her do lewd things
The guy was probably too consumed by REVENGE to even think about it
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>>143650861
That's the one thing that Nips don't complain about outside of a very small minority.
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>>143650861
>Tales of fans
>Disgusted by fujoshit
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Is this Ludger or am I being delusional?
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>>143650994
Whose belly is that?
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I'm confused. Isn't this anime supposed to just be the events of the game, in anime form? Why the fuck is the new Tales MC in the OP?
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>>143650964
>very small minority
If anything tfujoshi are the very small minority

>http://www.amazon.co.jp/product-reviews/B00O9SR9NK/ref=acr_search_hist_1?ie=
UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0

>>143650994
yep, fujoshi are only a minority after all, no wonder otaku are disgusted by zestiria
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So, should I get her fig?
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>>143651024
delusions,but I can see how you thought it was a reference considering that Ufotable animated the anime portions of Xillia
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>>143651045
This isn't Tales of Zestiria the Animation, this is Tales of Zestiria the X. Big difference.
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>>143651091
Absolutely. Do it for her.
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>>143651061
You again

Didn't you get BTFO'd last thread?
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>>143651061
>fujoshi
>small minority
>able to destroy an entire franchise's reputaiton and derail all discussion
>small minority

The onlytime I've ever seen something walk away from fujo's intact was Fafner, and that was a special case.
Otherwise they can be influential
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>>143651061
You moron, that's not what I'm saying.

Tales of had fujo pandering since forever, Luke and Guy were the gayest thing since gay came to gay town and Yuri and Flynn were not exactly straight in each other presence. And let not mention all that minor pandering, like Alvin/Jude, Spada/Luka, etc.

No one gives a fuck about it, ToZ flopped because shitons of glaring reasons like the clusterfuck of story, battle system and skill system.
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>>143651214
This thread, last thread and probably the one before that. He's just a delusional shitposter. Don't bother responding.
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>>143651091
If you want the whole party eventually, don't even think about it.

And Alter Rose when?
Judith fucking when, Alter?
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>>143651216
>>143651279
>>143651216
Stop replying to the mentally ill.
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>Game has top-tier waifus like Edna and Lailah
>You people cry because "muh alicia"

I don't get you waifufags.
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>>143651304
Rose isn't going to get a figure because nips hate her and she wears way too many clothes.
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>>143651279
>all those crack pairings
Luke and Guy were bros fuck you.
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>>143651410
> and she wears way too many clothes.

that can be easily fixed though.
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>>143651279

Luca was fucking hot. Too bad Innocence wasn't a good Tales.
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>>143651279
>Yuri and Flynn were not exactly straight in each other presence.
>like Alvin/Jude, Spada/Luka, etc.
Yeah it's more like your creepy fujo googles

all of them have female mc love interest, while zestiria remove the female mc to pander to fujoshit, no wonder it flopped, hard

>>143651214
Lel, if anything you're the one BTFO, you never play the game anyway, and only care about shipping shit

>>143651216
they sure destroy manglobe with their no sales, expect bones to be next, toppest kek
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>>143651358
I loved all the girls in sorey harem and sorey himself, but I hated how everybody become irrelevant because rose stole all their screen time.
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Is this yaoi? Or does it turn into?
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>>143651297
You almost gotta admire his dedication.
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>>143651490
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>>143651502
>Yuri
>female love interest
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>>143651358
Lailah Lailah Classifailah.

I originally thought the pact thing was bullshit and Lailah just didn't want to talk about how old she was.
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>>143651591
It's gay all the way through.
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>>143651552
Yeah, I hate when I make up things I don't like too.
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>>143651645
>What is estelle or judith
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>>143651641
Amazing.
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>>143651749
>yeah i also hate when people doen't even play the game and talk like they knew shit about it, they're not even tales fans, they only cares about cancerous shipping
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>>143651766
>complains about delusion fujos
>be delusion himself

Oh the irony
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>>143651766
>What is estelle
The girl who wants to start a family with Rita.
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>>143651693
Really? No het shit?
Nice
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>>143651749
Back to tumblr fujo.
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>>143651829
That's rich coming from sorey mikleo shipper, if anything yurijudith or yuriestelle is far more believable
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>>143651885
This does weird things to my pee pee
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>>143651873
Yup, none at all. It's definitely a refreshing change.
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>>143651885
>Dude pixiv

Good stuff.
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>>143651829
His complaints all revolve around fujos caring about shipping, despite the fact that his biggest gripe is the fact that there's a gay couple in the game. Delusion like his is best not responded to.
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>>143651920

I don't ship them though. You're as much cancer as fujos. Deal with it.
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>>143645144
Nothing, it's about how Namco treated her and the bait and switch they did.
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>>143652078
>I don't ship them though
Backpedal harder, it's good to see you're learning from tales team on how they backpedal after zestiria fiasco
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>>143651591
Fujos will tell you it's canon, others will call them brothers. It's been discussed to hell and back.

Sorey/Mikleo isn't canon but it's endgame and blows out every other pair out of the water. Like 'they have an ingame title labeling them as soulmates' tier. The anime is pushing it even harder, alongside Rose/Alisha and alot of other same sex bonding if the ED is any indication.
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>>143652078
Anon is delusional, ignore him like everyone else.
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>>143652309
Well, as long there isn't much of that wrong gay females shit and focus on the cute boys.
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>>143652309
I always saw Sorey as asexual, he didn't seem to see anyone in a romantic way.
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>>143651502
>they sure destroy manglobe
Manglobe died because they were barely releasing shows and doing niche stuff
>bones
>going defunct
are you having a stroke?
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>>143652538
This is most likely right. The staff said a romance wouldn't work for Sorey and the game's theme.
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