Orange

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>>143638533
I'm in love!

With cancer like this or ReLife getting so much attention I'm starting to believe that /a/ is legitimately full of girls and not just faggots. Disgusting.

>>143638704
>watching romance means you're a girl
What nigga

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This montage looked like shit.

>>143638765
Have fun with cross dimension cuckery.

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>>143638827
>Have fun
I will.

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Who is going to be paired with Glasses-kun?

>wants curry bun
>pretends she doesn't want curry bun because someone else might want curry bun

>given shoes too small
>endures pain rather than inconvenience someone by asking for different ones

She is literally me.

>>143639042
Would bully.

>>143638827
>cuckery
>>>/v/

>>143639042
I think both of you may be slightly retarded.

>>143638704
Want to explain how orange is cancer?

>>143639465
Are you implying that all realistic romance involves NTR

>>143639465
/v/ might be the board for you

>>143639465
>watching what you want to somehow makes you a cuck
This meme got old very quickly.

>>143639522
The crossboarder influx at the start of every season makes me want to end it all

>>143639662
It really is the best word to describe the show

>>143638533
I find them real refreshing. Reminds me of HnC

Literally a shark.

Wake me up when cuckeru dies.

>>143638704
>/a/ is full of girls

what a dream

>>143640249
You can't wake up.

>>143638704
Do you know that there's plenty of girls who love series for "males"?
For example this season Re:Zero is very popular with both the genders. So what's wrong if also males live series for "females"?

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>>143640186
>mfw Bread for Brains and cuckeru actually hit it off way better than him and main slut

>>143640348
love*

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Nice mustache.

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>>143638704
we are all little girls here didn't you know?

captcha: Bread

>>143640348
He doesn't know how many females write here. It's only they don't need to say they are females. They enjoy to talk about anime like the guys do.

Is this a high est anime?

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>>143640186

>>143640542
If you wouldn't Azusa you have low est.

I thought Kakeru was going to be the chad but it was Suwa.

She is so ugly in the anime.

Fuck just read the manga fags, only 20 chaps

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>>143638704
>I'm starting to believe that /a/ is legitimately full of girls and not just faggots
Be honest to yourself and start to realize the truth.

>>143640711
kek

Without spoiling too much, what is this show like? Relationship drama (with misunderstandings and all that stuff)? Or something more existential?

>>143639465
>female oriented romance is more realistic
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>143639465
>female oriented romance is more realisti
>orange
>naho starts to love kakeru 2 seconds after meeting him
>realistic

>>143641591
she saw his package

I'm just curious, if the older Naho has such regrets and wants the younger Naho to fall in love with Kakeru, does the older Naho not really love Suwa then? Does she regret the marriage too?

The close ups look fucking weird, It wasn't a bad opening episode though.

>>143641908
She Ctrl+Z'd her own kid.
What do you think?

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>this fucking face
They really got the "I need to go home" face for kakeru spot on.

>>143641908
Just go with different timeline/dimension.

>>143641908

Although it is true that Naho does have romantic feelings, all of them also regret not being able to save him as a friend.

>>143641908
She's a typical woman. Got older, shit out a kid she probably didn't want, full of regrets, wishes she fucked that mysterious boy back in highschool and didn't end up with her pathetic cuck boyfiend for financial security.

>>143642030
>Just go with different timeline/dimension.
What do you mean? Just because it takes place in a parallel dimension the intentions are forgivable? Naho loves Kakeru. In fact, everyone there loves. If Kakeru asked to fuck them all, they would allow. Forced as fuck.

>>143640711
Do You Want To Build a Snowman?

>female MC
FUCKING DROPPED.

>>143641991
poor kid, got retroactively aborted

>>143642462
Those fags love their friend so much they let one from the infinite dimension take a hit for their feel good pat at the back moment. Shit just works.
>forced as fuck
This shit again.No one force you to like it or read/watch it nigger.Its just not for you then.

Why is the MC voiced by Hanazawa Kana?
Fuck her, Iam dropping this.

>Suwa's dick failed to convert her

>>143641908
Naho loves Suwa but she isn't in love of Suwa.
Women can't love nice guys, at least not on female oriented media

>>143642589
It was a waste to pass Suwa's beta genes. Japan has too many betas already

>>143642553
>i like male mc because i can impersonate it so i escape the pathetic life i'm going through

kill yourself

>>143639007
Saku and Azusa bicker like an old married couple so I'd guess Azusa/Saku is a possibility while Takako is best girl in the series

>>143643105
at least I'm not pathetic enough to unironically enjoy cartoon romance stories aimed at ugly japanese teenage girls

>>143642724
>Its just not for you then
Don't use this lazy argument. It seems forced for two reasons:
>1
because it ignores the conflicts of the characters (Naho is married to Suwa, they have a child, which means that she loves her husband, then she would think of a way to save Kakeru that did not involve romance, otherwise she would have other regrets)
>2
because after receiving the letters the characters start to care about Kakeru as if they were childhood friends or something, when in fact they just met.

I like bakery girl as well.

>>143643105
>i like female mc because i can impersonate it so i escape the pathetic life i'm going through
kill yourself

>>143638533
What anime is this again?

>>143643285
>Implying you need to love someone for getting married
Asians don't even see marriage as the culmination of love, for them it's just a social contract. Besides, it's not like Naho hates Suwa, she likes him but he's too nice and stable so he doesn't make her panties wet. It's blatant wish-fulfillment for females, have your cake and eat it.

>>143643422
NTR: The Animation

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>>143643422
One More Day

This show has very beautiful backgrounds. I didn't read the manga so here's my guess what's about to come.

The reason why Kakeru ditched school is because he has a terminally ill disease. Naho falls in love him, and vice versa, but they can't be together because of his disease. Love triangle ensues, drama, etc. You can already tell this show is going to be filled with FEELS.

This is a shot in the dark, but maybe Kakeru find out there's a surgery that can 100% cure him, but his family can't afford it, and Naho tries to help him financially but can't she's too busy with school and her parents find out and forbid her from helping him.

>>143643560
He is just sad faggot. And this isn't even spoiler the first thing he do in this show is him being sad.

>>143643560
Nah, do yourself a favour by not getting spoiled but then you will be missing some speculah weekly. If any that is.

>>143643653

It's why I wished this wasn't a manga adaptation.

>>143643443
That's why is forced, my dear: if the author did not intend to make Naho truly love Suwa, why bother turn them a couple? It makes her look like a selfish bitch.

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>>143643422
LEMON-LIME

>>143643560
Let's just read the 22 chapters, anon.

>>143643560
In terms of plot your deduction is wrong, but in terms of essence is perfect.

After watching the first episode, I can already tell that this anime will emotionally destroy me. Not sure if I want to do this to myself. Talking to people who've read the manga also doesn't give me much confidence. The ending of the first ep almost made me cry.

>>143643734
The target audience are too busy fawning over Kakeru to consider that Naho might be a bitch. Besides, they're actively rooting for Kakeru/Naho. Even Suwa gives his approval so that make it OK somehow

>>143638533

What's wrong with her teeth? Is the a vampire?

>>143643870
are you on your period?

>>143643958

No. Stories always affect me a lot. Even happy stories make me sad. Even the last episode of DBZ made me cry.

>>143639465
>Realistic
>Time travel

>>143643870

There's really nothing to cry about in Orange. It's not a tear jerker, it's just a really mediocre story. I don't understand /a/'s hardon for this manga.

>>143644039

Can't get any more realistic.

>>143644099
Modern shoujo is so fucking abysmal that adding a time travel plot looks like a huge innovation

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>>143638533
I agree, OP.

>>143644011

Full blown crying, or just tearing up? I tear up at a lot of stuff too, but I've never really cried because of an anime.

>>143643488
Dont remind me about this shit, man.

Remind me why did that faggot kill himself again? Was it actually reasonable, or just teenage angst?

>>143644195
the sci-fi is not a huge thing in orange. the romance cliches are still there.

>>143641908
I swear it's like nobody read the manga.
Older Naho loves Suwa, she says that even if Kakeru was alive with them she would still love Suwa.

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>>143644099
>implying
You're just not a little girl at heart.
Takano is crying and so am I.

>>143644333
Bullied in his previous high school. His mother killed herself. Depression. Self-doubt. He felt he had nobody. Again, depression.

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>>143644244
But it's basically the same shit

>character can't move on and become an adult
>retread into a memory from his youth (aunt May, Kakeru)
>there's a child involved
>MJ/Suwa love the MC so much they have to accept s/he will never really move on and go along with the supernatural cucking
>the past win over the future

>>143644333
tfts

What is with /a/ fetish for gals recently?

>>143643285
1. The one married is in the future alternate dimension, they are just sending pointers on saving kakeru to one that in the younger one. Since the future alternate dimension only had the information until the reunion and grandma visit, they know that both people like each other and play it on that to at least stabilize kakeru probably. Its not like there wont be any conflict later on.Hell kakeru, might do it again since timeline branches and shit when information changed. If anything need to be definite, is to show kakeru can stand alone, who knows what will happen next to him.
2. If I'm getting some future letters detailing sad shit that would be happening to person I just know but would be around most of the time, I would try to help.

So, I dont see this as forced and if you see this as forced then ok anon.

>>143643870
My eyes did get copious amount of dirt, no tears though.

>>143644506

I'm rather sensible and tear up at alot of stuff, but Orange just didn't do it for me. I'm not saying it's a bad manga, it's just nothing special. /a/ praises it like there's no tommorow, that's the thing that iirritates.

>>143644379
Sounds like the author trying to shut up any possible criticism. Having your cake and eat it

>>143644596

Huh? Esl here, what the hell does that mean?

Will the adaption cover the entire manga?

>>143644736

It's just 22(?) chapters. There's no reason not to.

>>143643877
>Even Suwa gives his approval so that make it OK somehow
>Hey, there's this girl I love since always, my dream is/was to marry her and live happily ever after. but of course I will give up all this for someone I just met/who died ten years ago.

This manga should be called Banana.

>>143644333
Very reasonable, but I think /a/ will have a hard time relating to it.

His mom kills himself because of him. Last thing he told her was to leave him alone and stop ruining his life. The day he kills himself he finds his mom's phone, and it has an unsent text message where she says sorry and explains why she did all the things she did. In the end it was all for Kakeru. Add that on top of all the depression he's been feeling, he just decides to end it all. I really like my mom so Orange hurt like a bitch.

>>143644572

That's really no reason to kill yourself, apart from the mother bit perhaps. I really don't get suicide.

>>143644728
>tfts
Thanks for the spoiler

>>143644837
Soap opera tier

>>143644379
>she says that even if Kakeru was alive with them she would still love Suwa.
Bill Clinton also said he did not have sexual relations with Monica. Actions speak louder than words, anon. And the whole time, Naho acts as if she was still in love with Cuckeru.

>>143644694
What? I'm sorry but manga authors don't go around worrying about getting accused of NTR or whatever. There's no criticism anyway, everybody understands why things ended the way they did.

>>143644920

Don't mention it~

>>143644945
This isn't real life, characters don't have hidden motives unless it's actually explained. Takano's manga are very straightforward.

You mean the during the adult scenes? Yes, everybody loves Kakeru, not just Naho, and they feel extremely guilty for not saving him. That's what you're seeing. Older Naho doesn't feel romantic love.

They're basically the cool kids in class, aren't they? The noisy bunch the loner MC observes from afar.

>>143645147
Nope. Suwa is kinda popular among younger girls and in the soccer club with Kakeru, but that's about it.

People who hang out with Hagita could never be cool anyway.

>>143645294
Softball ace seems popular

>>143645294
Really popular people can hang out with anybody without caring about their own popularity.

>>143645294
What's wrong with Hagita?

>>143645398
Naho? The MC? Not at all.

>>143645518
Okay let me rephrase it. If Hagita hangs out with you, you couldn't possible be popular.

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>>143645585
He's ダサい as fuck, could never be popular.
But he's still the best character in the show.

Is this Glaslip done right?

Why "Orange"?

>>143645889
Because Citrus is already taken by superior manga, which is superio yuri version of YahariOre without Hachiman with Yukinon and Yuigahama lusting after eachother as non bloodrelated sisters

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>>143645889
I think nobody really knows but I've always thought it was because of this. It's right near the end.

>>143645982
>yurishit
>superior to anything
That garbage has just as much melodrama as any shoujo. It's completely by the books except the brooding male the MC lusts after is a girl instead.

The issue with the "letter from the future" is that person writing it actually doesnt "know future". They know their own choices and outcomes, but they dont and cant know results if they did different choices.

For example, in this episode, when she decided to join the baseball game - she could have missed the hit and experienced regret of having their team lost because of her.

Making different choice is by no means making "good choice", regret or not - especially considering the butterfly effect of how it affects future.

>>143638704
>I'm starting to believe that /a/ is legitimately full of girls
You don't fucking say. Are you not a little girl?

Also, theres no NTR in the show since Kakeru dies of medical condition and she marries the other guy after his death.

>>143644643
1. If she wanted to marry his and have a child, there would be the possibility of those memories get lost. There would be the chance of the child no longer exist. If you really love someone, you would not like that to happen. So, it's not a simple decision, but the manga makes seem like it is.

2. Help is one thing, to love unconditionally is another. This requires time. But they were already sacrificing themselves for Kakeru few days after meeting him.

Pan chan is best girl.

>>143644011
>Even the last episode of DBZ made me cry.
Fuck you, DBZ was always pretty sad. Just because people didn't die forever didn't mean that it wasn't emotional. When Vegeta blew himself up to try and defeat Buu, I cried for 30 minutes straight. And I was 17 at the time.

>>143645130
>Older Naho doesn't feel romantic love.
Just read the letter. Suwa send pics of his family to the past. Naho sends tips on how to date with Kakeru.

>>143646633
No, just read the manga.

>>143646327
Sure, but she knew they would've lost anyway because of her friend, so why not try for herself

>>143646494
him (Suwa), not his*

Serious question, is this NTR?

Suwa best boy but kill those who sympathize with him because "muh cuck"

>>143646918
No.

>>143644892
Well, if it seems like your mom actually killed herself because of you, then that's some pretty heavy guilty alone.

>>143646494
1. Infinite dimensions magic by the author, its not like the theory is well defined and strictly followed in that the future must be rewritten and therefore lost because the past has been changed, the future dimension might be upgraded into its own original dimension. In short, I just take it Suwa family is still intact in the future and others might take it as a future destroyed.


2.With the current info they got and the kakeru they had acting like he is now, they gotta get into gear fast since taking too much time would only make kakeru drifts away in his depression.

>>143646698
Then why did she not sent any photo of her family? Why the notes in her letter are all focused on romantic things? Why instead of removing Ueda she did not send tips on how to save Kakeru with the help of Ueda?

>>143647369
Because they didn't want to? That doesn't mean she doesn't love it.
The notes in the letter are things to do in order to save Kakeru, they are based on what she wrote when she was in highschool. The one who wrote it was basically younger Naho, she just corrected them to receive a positive outcome.
Because Ueda was awful and not part of their group? Do you see her 10 years in the future with them? No.

>>143647272
The point is: feelings are not a simple thing, but the author seems to ignore this to build her perfect fable. Naho fell in love with Kakeru even before reading the entire letter.

Is this gonna be the sad anime of this season, it seems like it.

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>>143644592
>MJ/Suwa love the MC so much they have to accept s/he will never really move on and go along with the supernatural cucking
This is by far worse than Boku dake.

It's natural for people to think Naho is still in love with Kakeru because the writing is superficial. The entire manga plays out more like a pure romantic drama. It's just "muh Kakeru this, muh Kakeru that" and nothing else.

>>143638533
I agree.

I'm 90% that it'll fall apart but for now rangaacutie

>>143644592
>>143648484
but in the case of suwa, he is not sad about it. because he loves kakeru too.

i think i'm the only one who thinks that the story would be much better without kakeru. terrible character.

>>143648996
Except without Kakeru there's no Orange. The whole story centers around him.

>>143640426
ahahaha

>>143649120
yeah, and that's the problem. the other characters are just his bitches. in fact, what makes him so great? just being sad is not a reason. he's just boring.

>>143649283
Because he's the weak ass suicidal one. On a side note I agree he's worst boy, last book soiled that because we actually could see what was going on in his head.

>>143648484
Suwa is good enough that he can be happy and find a great waifu without the dumb shit MC. Kakeru is literally useless and would fall apart and an hero without dead fish pussy.

>>143649283
Exactly, Kakeru doesn't do anything but be sad about his mom and try to kill himself.

>>143649188
>>143649283
Chill with the samfagging.

>>143647119
So he needs therapy not kiss and hugs.

>>143649466
Japan thinks therapy is SHAMEFUR DISPUREI senpai, I'm being serious. Why do you think people kill themselfs all the time there?

>>143649283
They're his friends, I'm sorry if you can't identify with their feelings of wanting to save someone they love.
Honestly if feels like you're just watching something that's not meant for you. If you can't see why someone would want to help a person they like and why one would feel sad about loosing the only parent they had, then just try something else. You're just not going to like this.

>>143649466
His grandma tries but Kakeru says no.

>>143649550
The question is WHY they're friends. They go home with him once, get letters, and for the rest of the time he acts like a completely hopeless bitch that shows no reason why they might like him except that he's polite.

Orange would be a completely different story if they knew Kakeru before he became suicidal so the story wasn't
>WE GOTTA SAVE THIS PURE BOY WHO IS SO SAD, NAHO WANTS THE DICK

>>143649684
Yeah, i just don't get this shit, Naho is in it just for the Kakeru dick. How i am supposed to give a fuck about it then?

>>143649684
THIS

>>143649684
Did you actually read this or are you just repeating what you heard? Kakeru does exactly the opposite, he hides his sadness from them and tries to get along and be cheerful. You only know he's sad because the others know he's sad.

You don't need much reason for wanting to become friends with somebody. You just need to like them, and after spending some time with him that's how they all feel.

>>143649684
Youre one stone cold autist anon.

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>>143638533
>KanaHana in not 1, but 2 new main character roles this season
Speaking of time shenanigans, I feel like I've just been thrown back at least 3 years.

>>143638774
Music was also shit.

>>143649684
This is why you've never had any friends.

>>143650133
What's the other show?

>>143650176
Rewrite

>>143649879
I did read it. There is never any development that shows why they might be friends other than the sports festival. Kakeru is obviously horribly depressed and doesn't try to let them close to him.

The fact that they don't know jack shit about him before they embark on their EPIC quest to "save" him only makes it worse. Orange is a terrible depiction of friendship and how suicide and depression affects it. It's about a grand mission to "save" someone without any awareness of who they are as a person, and then somehow getting close along the way. The only character who remotely seems like they genuinely want to be friends with and help Kakeru is Suwa, but who really knows how he's feeling when MC's actions are completely different from her narrated thoughts and obsession with her microactions causing him to jump off a fucking bridge.

>>143650139
keep projecting my man

>>143646918
yes time travel NTR the letter from the future is going to make the girl cuck her future husband

>>143650239
But-But he used a med kit on her feet dude, that's like pure love can't you see it?

>>143649879
Plot convenience is a more plausible explanation. Caring for someone suffering is easy, but true friendship needs time to grow.
>>143649949
(Not him but) You're easily emotionally manipulated anon.

>>143650279
That's fine, but people arguing that Orange somehow has good character development outside of Suwa is absolutely awful.

If there is a single plot point that can't be summed up with
>oh no I made Kakeru's day slightly worse now he's gonna DIE
I will watch this trainwreck of an anime all the way through

>>143650239
There doesn't need to be any, they simply like him as a person at first and as it moves on learn to love him even more.
The whole point of the story if that they don't know him. Because they don't know him they don't realize how hurt he is and mess up. The story is about fixing those mistakes. People naturally want to help others, if they can do it and have something encouraging them to they will do so.

>>143650365
>but people arguing that Orange somehow has good character development outside of Suwa is absolutely awful
Literally nobody is doing that.

>>143650239
There are people who say that orange shows one of the best representations of a depressive person.

>>143639465
>"I've never read a shoujo manga before"
nice bait

>>143650570
so they truly love a guy they know nothing about. 2 options: kakeru is an idol or they are saints.

>>143650764
>know nothing about

>>143650574
I guess I put it wrong because Kakeru isn't a bad example of someone who is depressed.

But everyone's reactions, selfish thoughts about how they're obligated to save him and belief that every minor action they perform will cause him to go over the edge is incredibly frustrating.

>>143650570
>literally nobody is doing that
I'm getting ahead of myself. Regardless for what you said earlier, I know there doesn't need to be any, but it makes the whole experience feel cheap, especially since they're too worried about creating this cloud of happiness and relief from his home life to make any of their interactions with him feel genuine. The fact that Kakeru's depression is used as a plot device for the other characters to not have any regrets about giving him valentines chocolate or giving him the opportunity to have a relationship with a girl frustrates me.

The only highlight out of Orange was that Kakeru ended up letting himself be loved rather than being healed by the power of Knights in Shining Armor.

>>143650821
>The whole point of the story if that they don't know him. Because they don't know him...

Oh shit, it took me getting halfway through the first chapter of the manga to realize that I read this a year or two ago.
I remember thinking it was pretty decent, but not amazing. Pretty sad, but a kind of heavyhandedly sad.

Anime looks pretty good though. Artstyle is a little different, but the manga was shoujo as fuck in its visuals, so this is a welcome change to me.

>>143650764
They are simply nice people who lost a friend and feel guilty because it was partially their fault and could have prevented everything.
The ones in the new world also like him and now that they have the letters it gave them a new perspective of Kakeru that deepened their feelings, but that doesn't mean they know everything about him.

It pisses me off how they try to make the daily life of middle schoolers looks so FUN!! and EXCITING!!!
No group of students at this age acts like this PERIOD.
This colorful, boisterous, ad-like depiction of school life looked so fucking forced and detached from reality I wonder if the Japanese themselves believe it or the writer suffers from severe romanticism or reality denial.

>>143650574
anyone here really think the kakeru is a faithful portrait of a depressed?

>>143638704

Bruh, /a/ has been full of autism, cancer, and faggots since like 2008. Bitches done took over and ruined not only /a/ but 4chan in general.. just lurk in the shadows... and rage quietly.

>>143638533

For some strange reason, this reminds me of NANA... remember, NANA? of course not, you guys are like 7 or 8 years old.

>>143650956
>but the manga was shoujo as fuck in its visuals
NO WAY the art effects are more moderate than most shoujo.

>>143651212
Stay away from the live action then.

>>143651346
>Bruh
>..
>...

Found you, MAL.

>>143651212
They are in high school though.

>>143651212
Didn't seem that unrealistic to me. They don't really go into detail about what their school life is like anyway.
People around me at that age had fun most of the time and no cares or worries. Seems similar enough.

>>143651023
If I received a letter saying that in the future I would be with the girl of my dreams, but had to give it up for a guy I do not even know, I would simply give up? That's why this show is far from being realistic (as many fans say), it makes the characters look like the most good people of the universe.

>>143651794
But it's not for a guy you don't know. Suwa became friends with Kakeru, he cares about him now.
And it's not just about Kakeru, giving up on Naho creates a better future for everybody.
I don't really think this is realistic though, it's still anime/manga and is idealized in more than one way to make it work.

>>143651794
>>143652167
I think it's decently realistic given that Naho wasn't even the girl of his dreams, just a girl that he liked that he happened to marry in a future timeline.

>>143651794
Or he understands that she'll be happier with the other guy, and he'd much rather make everyone happy and not dead this time around and just marry someone else?

If she's only with you because her first pick is dead, then she's not worth chasing anyway.

>>143651212
Yeah, this and Relife really keeps driving this narrative, anyone who went trough high school knows that shit was boring 90% of the time. I was a fuckin retard too, i'm better now i'm every single way i can imagine.

Orange more like Cringe

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>>143651393
I remember how you're never EVER going to get an ending for it.

I genuinely missed HanaKana.

>>143652961
nigga, have you seen prison school?

>>143653210
Sure, why?

>>143652167
How is getting cucked the best future for Suwa? if he really is okay with not ending with her and never having his daughter hes literally the worst written character of all time. Why did he even marry her in the first place?

>>143653302
nothing really. it's just another recent anime from the post peak hanakana period AND she's outdone herself in int

>>143652167
>>143652216
>>143652400
It's only been a few weeks and they have become best friends already. I don't buy this, I'm sorry. The story avoids dealing with conflicts, making the characters look like angels (I already used saints, so ...).
>I think it's decently realistic given that Naho wasn't even the girl of his dreams
He really liked her and confessed it to Kakeru.

>>143653858
It's high school, dude. You make friends at the drop of a hat, and you fall in "love" in a heartbeat.

>>143653858
You're forgetting that Suwa is a normie who is perfectly aware that there are other fish in the sea, and can probably get someone who is much less unbearable than Naho.

>>143638704

Because there's nothing else other than a shitty Berserk adaptation, some otome shit, keyshit, and spring leftovers.

>>143649684
That would require actual characterization and that's too much work. Also, there's the risk of making Kakeru to act like an actual depressed teenager rather than a walking fetish, what would make the female readership to hate him. See Shinji Ikari.

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>>143653974

>>143654140
Thanks man, you put everything i wanted to say in words.

>>143654252
I don't see how this is a fox and the grapes situation given that he could reach these supposed grapes and made a conscious decision not to.

>>143654140
But girls are the only ones who like Shinji, at least in Japan.

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>>143654419
Shinji is Kaworu's Ken for the Japanese landwhales.

>>143653946
Yeah, but in the manga, this "silly stuff" is what will save Kakeru.
>>143653974
And you're forgetting that he received pictures showing the beautiful future he would have next to her.

>>143654140
There are people who say Kakeru is the perfect example of a depressive person.

>>143654745
thanks for upload anon

>>143654634
Kaworu is not a character so fujoshits does not apply, but they manage to be better than Eva waifufags that fight each other, destroy shit, send Anno death threats and make gang rape doujins of Asuka and Rei. Also, monster cock alpha Shinji doujins. Eva is popular enough to have enough female fans that aren't yaoi shippers, but they mostly like Asuka, and think her and Shinji's struggles are similar.

For waifufags Shinji doesn't exist or is a completely different character.

>>143654676
Future Suwa decided that he'd like a future with Kakeru in it. Present Suwa realized what he could have, but decided a future with his friend alive was worth more than an ending where he ends up with the first girl he loved.

Suwa is a bro and a true friend. He has a wealth of options. He will find a perfectly beautiful future with a great wife that also includes Kakeru. He decided that his friendship was more important to him than Naho.

And he made the right choice, because Naho is batting depressingly under his league.

>>143653486
Because once Kakeru dies they all become distant and grow apart. He lives with regret for the rest of his life and gives up his dream of becoming a soccer player.

>>143654777
Maybe the female idea of what it's like to be depressed, i.e. surrounded by a million friends.

>>143655433
Friends and being surrounded by friends have nothing to do with whether a person is depressed or not

anyone know why there is a hungarian flag on the blackboard at the back of the classroom?

>>143655174
I just don't see how Kakeru is this important on their lives.

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>>143655433
More like the anime idea of being depressed, what say a lot about the anime fandom. They seem entitled as fuck. That would explain shit like the idol culture and pic related

>>143655433
My uncle had bazillion bucks on his bank account, fucked bitches all day, had a lot of friends and traveled a lot and yet killed himself.

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>>143655600
Just don't think so much about it. They were friends, they spent time with together, they're partially at fault for ruining his life, they feel guilt for not avoiding that.
It's just a shoujo, they just wanted to show you a heartwarming story about friendship. The more you watch it the more you'll grow to like it since all the characters are pretty nice. In the end you just don't care.

>>143655600
You don't think a friend suddenly dying on you when you're in high school has a major effect? Especially when it's from something as easily preventable as suicide.

>>143639007
read the manga
it's a story about a fag who kills himself
he ends up getting cucked anyway.

>>143655948
I lost the count of how many people died on my life, some really close. if i said i think of them that much i would be a liar. you just learn to deal with it.

so, what was the first suggestion (to don't invite the new student) about?

>>143655908
I guess you re right, maybe this mango just don't pander to the type of person i am.

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>>143656122
>maybe this mango just don't pander to the type of person i am.

>>143655908
>They're partially at fault for ruining his life
this is some stretching that they're at fault for Kakeru being at fault for his mom being at fault for being dead.

>>143656093
His mum an heroes that day

>>143656632
oh, this explain his absence from school

>>143651212
Because it's non-fiction? Because it's a fucking fantasy?

Do you really want a school setting where everyone has black hairs, studies all day, do nothing fun or creative and act realistically until their entrance exams?

You might as well watch some J/K-dramas for that. Why are you trying to seek realism in anime?

>>143657182
So you're saying that fiction only works if you romanticize it excessively?

>>143657246
Exactly, and thats why i can't relate to all this fuckin tearjerker people say this is. how can i even feel anything.

You know it's forced, because if you remove the theme suicide the whole thing collapses. "Suwa is a true bro", "the friendship is pure" and blah blah blah, but since the author don't build this friendship narratively, everything feels fake. The characters like Kakeru so much just for the sake of plot. They are like programmed robots.

>>143657440
>>143657443
sorry

>>143657440
Because the characters are nice and you'll feel sad when bad things happen to them.
If you don't like them then just move on, seeing the same complain over and over again is getting old.

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>>143652640
Savage. Over the line as well.

>>143657591
>Because the characters are nice and you'll feel sad when bad things happen to them.
It's a melodrama, then?

>>143657865
Sure, call it whatever you want.

ORENJI IRO NI HAYAKU
NARITAI KAJITSU
JIMI NO HIKARI WO ABITE

>>143638533
The characters designs and animation are fucking atrocious

>transfer student at the start of episode 1
>not the end

I'm confus it's like that cat on redit

Os that Kana Hanazawa I heard she sucks dicks for money

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Claiming my waifu, no steal pls

>>143660234
>dual wielding braids
So cute!

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Pls explain. The letter says he turns down the invitation in the normal course of things but he actually joins in. What the fuck.

>>143660234
>aku no hana QUALITY

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Doesn't that bitch feel any remorse about erasing her child from existence by altering Kakeru's fate? Jesus christ this is bugging me.

>>143657908
That's the exact definition of melodrama. Tragedy is bad things happening to flawed people because in some way they were looking for it. Melodrama is bad thing happening to super nice people because reasons

>>143638533
shit show, best girl
why?

>>143661482
No because it's a fucking parallel universe and she knows that.

all you autists not knowing why they're friends are the same group that eat up shit like Kiznaiver. I don't ever remember directly telling my friends they are my friends. you tell someone else you're friends with person A. you don't go up to person A and say shit like 'since we're friends, we should do this together, and this together.' it's pointless to argue real life but you don't need a motive like 'I must save the world' to feel sorry about someone. leave that garbage in Key VNs

>>143661578
How does she know that and how can she send letters back in time anyway?

>>143661840
They actually don't, it's just an attempt to make themselves feel better than ends up working.

>>143661523
Entirely arbitrary definitions that you pulled out of your ass.

>>143661523
Your definition of tragedy is Shakespearean and melodrama 'because reasons' makes you seem even stupider. neck yourself. give your family some melodrama

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>>143661211
I'm guessing it's talking about how he said no at first but then gave in.

>>143642030
The mouths are so fucking ugly holy shit, the pretty eyes just don't fit at all.

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I really hope they're not planning to leave out all the cute SD drawings Takano has. They really add a lot of charm to the story.

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>>143638533
ORANGE?

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>>143664339
Finally

Is this the series where the two boys try their hardest to out cuck one another?

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ANZU A CUTE!

The art reminds me of the first season of Terra Formars. Same studio?

>>143638774
sounds like somebody didnt "get" it lmao

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>>143645889
This is why.

Are the letters in the beginning a timeline where Kakeru stays alive letting the future selves know everything ended up fine, which is what we'll be watching?

The message "now ten years in your future" kind of threw me off which clashes with my question above, it makes it seem like Kakeru dies no matter which timeline, is this true?

When she is writing in her diary, is it the same letter that was read in the future but sent back to the past with details on how to help Kakeru?

Are there two actual timelines, or this just one loop big loop? From watching the episode, it seemed like this might be the case if it is a loop.

-She recieves a letter from the future guiding her to save Kakeru
-Falls in love with Kakeru
-Happy times
-Kakeru dies(Not sure of cause yet)
-She's ends up with Suwa in the end(does she still have feelings for Kakeru?)
-Sends letter to the past to do the same

For the romance, what can I expect;
Will the main girl have a vanilla relationship with kakeru since she fell in love, or will she sometimes doubt and want suwa causing relationship problems; similiar to kokoro connect?

>>143670265
The one you watched is the timeline where they save Kakeru from suicide.

The timeline from the letter is where kakeru dies.

It's a different timeline. Kakeru has die and she send a letter back to make sure Kakeru doesn't die. There's no loop here. She send a letter back to make sure she does something different than other timeline to prevent Kakeru's death so when her action success, the future in this timeline changes. The other timeline will still have Kakeru's death.

In this timeline main heroine will stay true to her feelings and fall in love with Kakeru. Suwa realizes Main heroine feelings and help them get together. In other timeline, main heroine is indecisive and is a pushover so she wasn't able to create happy memories with Kakeru.

>>143659104
What the fuck? The animation is objectively above average you mong

>>143661211
Where does it say that? The letter is telling her to stop him from coming like he did in the other reality, but she didn't do it.

>>143671050
It doesn't said it on the letter but he joins them walking home together in the show.

He turns down the invitation but due to pressure he still join them anyway.

>The letter is telling her to stop him from coming like he did in the other reality, but she didn't do it.

Because there was no reason why she should not let him join them other than a random letter said she shouldn't.

is this a cuck show

>>143671241
I think it goes beyond a "random letter" when it's cleary from the future. I don't really get what you're asking, anyway. In the original timeline he joins them, but the letter is telling her to not allow it for whatever reason. What's the problem here?

>>143639341
Not from /v/ and you must be new to think it started there, but that's what actually happens. She longs for the dead dick so much she changes dimensions to be with him all while shitting on who she is currently married with and has a kid. This causes two dimensions to be created where she is with each man in their own world.

>>143673510
Because she didn't read the whole letter yet. It was the first? page. She did not realize how serious the letter was. It could have easily been a prank.

I wasn't asking for anything. I'm saying there was no reason for her to stop Kakeru from joining them.

I fucking hate time travel bullshit.

>>143674344
Time travel is not the focus of the show anon.

watching this literally right now and shit so cringe so far.

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So she doesn't want to be married to the other guy and gets her 16 year old self to be with dead boy?

>>143675946
Well it's not just her decision. Her husband also want them together as well.

She wants to return and take action toward her first love and her husband will probably go to his dream of soccer.

When Kakeru die, the group fall apart. People went their separate ways. They both want to return and help Kakeru so there's no regrets.

>>143641180
more existential

>>143675946
Yes she does. Read the manga, watch the show, read the threads, just stop making the same question over and over again.

>>143641908
it wasn't a "i wish i had chosen him" regret, but a "i wish we could have saved him" regret

>>143676310
>>143675946
man i need to get out of this thread, i'm reading too much, I need to go into this show blind

>>143638533
okay nerd

>>143644379
seriously, the people in this thread are fucking retards

>>143675946
Yes, it's basically your average female oriented fiction. They get off on NTRing their hardworking husbandos in Japan and this is their wish fulfillment stuff. Honestly with all the japanese moviess/dramas women like with affairs/NTR you'd think Nips would think twice about marrying

>>143673642
>She did not realize how serious the letter was. It could have easily been a prank.
But she's already read enough to realise that the thing is literally predicting events as they happen. How is that not already serious?

Reminds me of that one OVA with some cunt housewife remembering an affair she had with some guy and something about his hands or whatever while looking at her child who might not even be her husband's.

When is all this stupid cuck and NTR whining going to end. Just read the fucking manga if it bothers you so much.

>>143644379
She was depressed she didn't get with another guy, is unhappy in marriage and gives her past self advice to change events preventing her child from ever being born

I call bullshit on her claim.

Just finished watching it. I'm really not sure about the faces, something seems way off. That ending reveal was a bit much, too.

Interesting premise though, but I think I may drop it. Will it just be mushy romance with the whole future diary thing?

Why would reading it change the complaints?

There's a difference between wanting to save a friend and wanting your past self to get his dick
>b-but the author put that line there so it invalidates the seriousness of their actions!

>>143638533
Even her collar button is a fricking smiley face.

>Femanons trying to defend this NTR garbage by claiming it's another dimension when no such thing is mentioned in the manga

>>143676707
>She was depressed she didn't get with another guy
>is unhappy in marriage
Literally never says this.
All she does is give herself advice on how to save Kakeru. You're twisting things to make it match your own delusions. Why are you people so obsessed with NTR.
The one who actually stopped the marriage route from happening was Suwa.

But none of this fucking matters because this is what every single one of them wanted.

>>143676903
Now you're just baiting.

>>143676957
You clearly haven't read it.

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>>143677035
Clearly, it's not like the same thing's been repeated to death for the rest of the thread.
Sorry, I just love your bait so much.

>>143676957
>But none of this fucking matters because this is what every single one of them wanted.
>I-it doesn't matter because the author whitewashed the whole thing. They all wanted it even though it doesn't make sense!

>>143677111
Yes you repeated your delusion multiple times in this thread

>>143677146
>they all wanted their friend to not die

Outrageous.

>>143677437
Clearly talking about Suwa

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>a letter from the future comes
>explains what to do
>ignore the fucking commands in it

>>143676606
I didn't watch the anime. But the only thing that predicate right was there was a new transfer student and he would sit next to her. Like that's some simple stuff, classmate can leak information like new transfer students all the time.

it's literally nothing. It's not like she read the whole letter in one go. She read a little as even progress. The 3rd predication was the don't invite him. And there was no reason to blindly follow a letter saying not to invite him.

>>143677482
Must be easy to scam you then since you follow everything at face value.

A Cuckwork Orange.

>>143677625
>read letter
>it literally predicts everything that happens
>down to the fucking letter
>GEE WHIZ THAT MUST BE JUST A COINCIDENCE
I would make a very boring protag in a time travel story because the whole thing would be wrapped up in 5 minutes flat.

>>143677717
Predicated two event happen. A new transfer student and he would sit next to her. You know how many people have access to that information? All the teachers and principal. .

Only TWO fucking events happen so calm yourself.

Nah, the only thing you end up is falling for some sort of scam.

>>143677553
>I didn't watch the anime
Why the fuck are you posting any of this shit then? That wasn't everything the letter predicted, either. Fuck off

>>143678079
Because if it follow the source material, that's all that has been predicated so far. Tell me what has also been predicted before the do not invite him then.

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Why would she not read the entire letter, but rather only the page that's relevant to her current day? Doesn't she want to get a whole picture of the events that are about to unfold?

>soon I'll make some choices that I'll regret for the rest of my life
>nah let's just jump in blind, see what happens lmao

This shit infuriates me

>>143678598
She read the whole thing already, but they're only showing us the parts relevant to each day so we don't have a scene of her just sitting there reading the entire thing on screen.

>characters are fucken ugly

DROPPED

Suwa best boy.

Not into the character design too much, despite that, the animation is pretty fluent

>>143638533
I read the manga, and I had to facepalm so freaking bad when in the last chapter they mention that their timeline might be 'painted over' and she asks 'What's the problem with that?' and neither parents say anything about their FREAKING KID right there on their arms.

Not even time traveling shenanigans can save shoujo or what the nips perceive as romantic.

muh NTR

So, do any of the others know about the letter?