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Black Goku got BTFO'd by a regular Super Saiyan Goku wew

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Black Goku got BTFO'd by a regular Super Saiyan Goku

wew
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>>143628848
He was ssj2 you putz
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>>143628848
Surprisingly realistic, no Beerus around to train him into god levels.
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Super Saiyan strength is completely dependent on your base form strength. Goku's is waaaay higher than Trunks so it's fine
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Is Trunks the weakest SSJ2 level?
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>>143629695
Gohan is
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>>143628908
Black isn't even a Saiyan, he told Goku it was an honor to fight him in that body, he's basically a Ginyu on steroids
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>>143630051
but how did he get goku's body? goku died in the original time line and by the looks of it, black's body has heart problems too. I haven't seen the sub yet, so I can only guess
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>>143630191
Dumb writing, probably.
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>>143629695

Is Trunks even SSJ2? I thought he could only get up to the super muscle but low-speed SSJ1.5 version.
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>>143630243
>dumb writing
>Cell's time machine isn't so impressive
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>>143630286
Are you literally dumb or did you miss the last episode?
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>>143630286
In Cell saga. Trunks, unlike Gohan, kept training. He managed to beat Dabura.
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>>143630191
No one said it's Ginyu
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>>143628895
Does that make it any better?
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>>143630444
obviously it's not ginyu but some time god. still the question is to be answered.
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>>143628848
>goku and black just fucking with each other at a stalemate.
>woops i gotta go now!
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>>143630526
he's been sucked back to the future. did you switch off your brain while watching?
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>>143629723
>implying he can even turn SS2 anymore
wew lad
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>>143628848
No he didn't. He was sucked back. Have you actually seen the episode.
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>>143630623
>not switching your brain off while watching super
While i agree that anon is retarded for missing such basic info, it's alot easier to enjoy while not thinking about it too much.
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YOKA DANCE

WHEN IS GOHAN GOING TO DO FUCKING ANYTHING JESUS CHRIST
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I agree with anons saying it was largely because Black was being sucked back to the future, Marty.

But I actually prefer the idea Black was losing, and like Goku, he's going to heal up, level up, and wreck when he comes back.
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>>143630623
I meant it as he had to leave. Neither goku or Black were really trying.
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>black in base form manages to matched ssj2 goku
>all those remarks how the pain and fightstyle is getting engraved in his body
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>Have a chance to make a decent storyline about a Goku who wasn't raised by a kind grandpa. Or a Goten who's plagued by loss, cuts his hair and ends up looking like his father using his name

>Cop out and go the safe pussy route we've seen a thousand times of 'muh alien in muh body'.

Fuck this series, again.
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if you seriously thought black was going to be a threat, you were being stupid.

let's assume he was capable of taking on and even overpowering a super saiyan blue goku. there's still vegeta, beerus, and whis.

and while they both claim they'd rather die, fusion will always be a viable option.

unless black gets a powerup that allows him to just completely wreck the gods or lock them away somewhere, he will just be a minor speedbump at best. that's the direction super has taken the series.

idiots will say something like claiming only dbzfags will hate this, but the point is not even the original DB was this devoid of tension. yes, it was primarily a comedy, but it accomplsihed this without shitty forced pilaf gang scenes awkwardly jammed into otherwise emotional moments. it didn't have to use product placement out the ass where it didn't belong. yeah, goku essentially remained unchallenged by villains... until Tao showed up. Things got plenty serious back then and it was better that way. Super is so fucking boring as it is right now because it keeps ending the same.

"lul we are so silly this is so stupid hey we are having fun. oh no this guy who acts like he's a serious villain shows up. let's pretend this guy can actually hurt us for like 3 episodes and then just swiftly deal with him. ok now that we've done that, let's spend 4 episodes showing goku and vegeta eating featured japanese food with beerus and whis. oh and ed, edd, and eddy are trying to scam bulma for her jawbreakers yet again. SO SILLEH! XDXDXD"

fucking cancer. save for the shitty dancing brothers, GT was better than this and its insulting that anyone would suggest otherwise.
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>>143628848
Does any of the time travel actually make sense? I'm assuming this goes by multiverse theory right? But Whis seems to act as though it isn't multiverse. Is it just bad writing in the end?
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>>143631498
This series gave up it's potential years ago.
Did you really think that you were getting something better than GT? Don't let the Superfriend's hype betray you.
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>>143631745
>there's still vegeta, beerus, and whis.
I really don't like Beerus and Whis.

As long as they're around and still that much more stronger than everyone else, there's not going to be any tension in the series.
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>>143631922
I don't like Beerus because everyone has no problems with being friends with him even though he's a petty genocidal asshole ("It's his job" isn't an excuse). They should hate him, he's a monster.
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goku black is much better than goku
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>>143631922
if black WAS strong enough to destroy them all then and there (minus whis/beerus) the two gods wouldn't have stood up and fought him, they've made that perfectly clear multiple times that they couldnt give a toss about the Earth.
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>>143631922
black seems to know beerus and wasn't shitting himself like frieza

That is something

Though goku playing along with him probably just made him stronger
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Black didn't even transform yet

Nigga is almost mystic tier in base form
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>>143632082
>Mystic is stronger than ssj3
>Base black got fucked by a playing around ssj2 goku
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I just want more Android 18 damnit
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>>143632128
he is getting there by being a masochist
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>>143632128
With the training he's done SSJ2 goku would be stronger than Mystic/.
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Will the Supreme Kai of Time show up?
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Why are all of Goku Black's fans cuckold fetishists? IDK why but they constantly act like Goku Black is african american.
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>villain who gets stronger every time he feels pain
>starts out relatively weak
>WOW WHAT A PUSSY VILLAIN AND THAT GUY IS SUPPOSED TO BE A THREAT??

Why are DB fags such absolute retards?
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>>143632276

Irony of all ironies, Black Goku does have a darker tone of skin compared to the actual Goku.

You can actually notice this when they exchange punches through their hands, unless he's just like that due to not bathing.
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Son Goku easily could have vaporized that Black if he felt like it.

But Goku is a retard as usual and just basically sparred with Black a bit.
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Well, it's sealed now pretty much.

Neither Son-Goku nor Vegeta will defeat this guy.
Not because they cannot do it, but probably Beerus and Whis won't allow it.
It would cause too much trouble with the time stuff.

I bet 2 coins that Trunks is gonna train and also tap into God powers, travels back and defeat Black.

Only way
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>villain who gets stronger every time he feels pain
>Villain who gets stronger with each minute passing

Reminds me of someone.
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literally best pure saiyan dad

how can one compete?
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>>143632561
so vegeta is keit ai ?
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>>143632561

Has Vegeta gotten the most character development over the series? Isn't the Buu Saga basically "Vegeta has a mid-life crisis"?
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>>143632679
>Vegeta has a mid-life crisis
>Probably not even 1/3 of his life passed
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>>143632679
from enemy to an asshole to a mid level asshole with a son to a slightly asshole who slightly cares for his son to a asshole family man.

yeah he have a lot of deveopment
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>Gets more powerful with every hit, like he has some kind of zenkai on steriods ability
>Black states this outright
>Goku still doesn't go godmode and kill him as fast as possible

This won't end well.
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Anyone else surprised that the didn't make a filler episode of finding the old time machine?
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>>143630380
Speaking of which, there should be another time-machine in the future too.
Because

A, Future Trunks time machine that's smoldering hot like ASHLEY from ME1.
B, Cell's time machine from the, well, aborted timeline, and
C, Future Trunks' dopplergänger timemachine, the one his timeline's Cell wanted to use.

If that isn't the case, i'm fucking surprised Bulma from the future didn't think of including THE TIME MACHINE DESIGNS in the fucking notes.

Oh well, it's anime, and it's DB. It's toriyama related, so it's fucking pointless anyway.

>>143630243
Have to agree here.

>Hey, i just arrived in the time machine, let's LEAVE IT OUT IN THE FUKCING OPEN WHERE EVEN PILAF COULD STEAL IT.

Riight.
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>>143632770
don't forget he has a thing for making his powers perfect just like cell
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>>143632726

Wasn't he in his late 30s? Shit, Goku dies at like 64.
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>>143632432
Goku's skin gets lighter when he turns super saiyn
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>>143632726
Vegeta totally forgot about the whole immortality thing didn't he?
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>>143632895
>>143632726
Nope, according to Super, and what we've known before, is that Saiyan lifespans are pretty much triple/double of an average one.

He didn't have a mid-life crisis, he had a pre-matured crisis. Consdier that he was going to through his own saiyan-emo years while fighting Goku and such. Then matured, and had that crisis in the Buu saga. He turned 18/25 depending on how you want to look at it mentally/psychically.
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>>143632974
>Nope, according to Super, and what we've known before, is that Saiyan lifespans are pretty much triple/double of an average one.

Not according to Toriyama. Goku dies in his 60s in DBO, which is supposed to be canon.
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>>143632932
I don't think he actually wants to never die anymore. He's seen the afterlife and knows that it's nice. He knows that he and Goku will both go there one day and that they're rivalry will go on forever. That's what he wants.
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>>143633019
>which is supposed to be canon

But it isn't and we all know that
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>>143632932
He died twice, and it's not too fucking bad, Goku got better too. Why would he need immortality, when someone else is going to just cop out his death?

>>143632839
Pls no Golden Cell, he'd look like a grown up Golden Armor megaman.

>>143632916
>>143632432
Apparently Goku black can't turn Super Saiyan. This also plays into the !Goku aspect, and his darker skin can arguably because of his inhabitor. Or not bathing(Ew, shouldn't he have a beard like Vegeta and Goku did after long training periods?)


It's clear that whoever is using Goku's body is a body snatcher.
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>>143633019
That means he's a couple years away from dying in Super.
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>>143632932
>Vegeta totally forgot about the whole immortality thing didn't he?
nope, but toriyama totally did
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>>143633074

Not even close. He's 30ish years off.
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>>143632625
No, Vegeta is KyoAni.
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>>143631498
>Goku who wasn't raised by a kind grandpa. Or a Goten who's plagued by loss,
Both shit ideas. God this fanbase has nothing but shit ideas for the series.
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>>143630508
Well Super Saiyan 2 is around twice the power of a Super Saiyan last time i checked, So yeah it kinda does.
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>>143633107
>Vegeta is the CEO of Kyoani

Too perfect
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>>143633103
Plus 20 years of time chamber training.
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Is he gonna get train by his daddy and become beyond a super saiyan?

That way when Beerus comes to his earth. He will be ready.
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>>143633197

Wut.
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>>143632561
That was really touching to me
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>>143632538
I'm surprised the anime hasn't just used Broly given how bafflingly popular he is
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>>143632561
His only competition is Goku, one of the worst dads in Shonen. That's not saying much.
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>>143633283

If broly was a chick, would it change anything?

It would be a decent female villain.
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>>143633316
Shout out to best dad in dragon ball
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>>143633383
thanks doc
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>>143633377
It would only change the sex appeal.
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>>143633417

Do you have that pic of donald with a boner with a rainbow spiral on it?

I kinda need it.
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>>143631990
That's exactly why I don't like them
They're so involved with Goku and Vegeta via training and Beerus being a brat and loving GOOD FOOD, hanging out with the cast and other bullshit, but then as soon as trouble comes along, you can just have them say "WELL, WE'RE GODS, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING, GO CLEAN UP YOUR OWN MESS!"

If they're not going to help out the cast, then don't make them so involved, especially for silly shit like GOOD FOOD
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so did she remembered she have comic relief powers?

Don't tell me arale is gonna show up and beat the shit out of beerus soon
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>>143633557

I actually forgot that the last 2-3 episodes, from trunks transporting back to the past to that scene, have occurred in like one half hour.
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>>143632082
So Black is going to Garou his way to the top?
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>goku jobs it up instead of killing black immediately
>he gets drawn back to the future
>destroys the timemachine
Some real shit writing going on. Feels like every cheap fetch quest in a kMMO.
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>>143633456
Mid fuck you whisper Kakarot in her ear. She enters a primal rage state and completely destroys your pelvis. You just have to get over her screaming another guy's name.
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>>143632082
Why are they all just watching? Why don't they run a gank squad on Blackoku?
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>>143633624
the pain makes him stronger so yeah
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>>143633624
Black shows up after 4 months of training as a super saiyan.
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>>143633692
That would be rude.
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>>143633316
>Retards are still trying to spam this meme
Please stop projecting your abandonment issues on to DB, Amerifat.
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>>143633703
Evil Goku looks so much cooler than the "real" one
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>gives him hope
>kills it
>gives him hope
>repeat
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>>143633806
Yes, Goku will fight to protect his children (not that Goku needs much convincing for fighting). But at everything else about being a parent, he's pretty bad, abandoning his family for long periods of time.
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>>143633845
I GET KNOCKED DOWN
BUT I GET UP AGAIN
AND THEN I GET KNOCKED DOWN AGAIN
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>>143633810
the black clothes and the non retarded goku look made him cool
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>>143633889
>But at everything else about being a parent
Wrong.

>abandoning his family for long periods of time.
He was dead retard and both times he died saving Gohan's live.
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>>143633994
He could have come back to life if he wanted to, but he refused.
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>>143633969
>not being angry all the time=retarded look
Wew retards a plenty in this thread
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>>143633994

What are they talking about?
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>>143634080
>He could have come back to life if he wanted to,
No he couldn't dumbass.
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>>143634093
>being smug is now called angry
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>>143631101
>Strange ki appears out of no where.
>Piccolo and Krillin show up.
>Gohan is no where to be found.

Lets face it, hes been written out. Just like Goten.
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>>143634153
Reread the Manga. At the end of the Cell Saga, everyone is being brought back by the Dragon Balls, but Goku refuses to come back and stays in Otherworld.
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>>143631101
I don't care about Gohan. I just want to see 18 do something and her and Trunks to have an awkward team-up.
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I saw Vegeta at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.

He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.

The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.

When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
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>>143634153

He could have. Dende's balls are different than Kami's. He fixes that very shit.
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>>143634204
>Reread the Manga.
Take your own advice idiot you can't make the same wish twice. Goku was already revived in the Saiyan arc kys faggot.
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>>143633383

>During Cell games
>Piccolo calls out Goku for being a shit dad and never understanding that Gohan doesn't like to fight like he does

I kek'd
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>>143630191
It is possible to get to other world
Or he just took on gokus body to taunt trunks
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>>143631745
nice post, captain hindsight
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>Black Goku is literally a walking corpse being controlled by some mysterious fag

Wew lad we Walking dead now
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>>143634284
They weren't the same Dragon Balls, it's how Krillin and co. got to come back to life after the Freeza saga.
I wish I had the page showing Goku refusing to come back to show it to you.
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cute
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Guess Trunks time line still got the chance of cute little Sayian Babys.
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>>143634311
Piccolo and Piccolofags confirmed for stupid hypocrites
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>>143634093
This is how black people think. It's the same with the whole "Future Trunks would be disappointed in Gohan, even though he's actually stronger that Future Gohan and is living a good life".
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>>143634421

Piccolo is using tough love

Goku legitimately did not understand his son until Majin Buu saga
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>>143634390
>They weren't the same Dragon Balls, it's how Krillin and co. got to come back to life after the Freeza saga.
Why are DB threads filled with faggots who don't remember shit about the series and state their bullshit as fact?
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>>143634204
Not who you replied to, but here is the page
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>>143634455
>This is how black people think
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>Gotenfags write a completely nonsensical fanfiction with absolutely nothing to back it up and gets surprised and angry when it gets proven false

This fanbase is the gift that keeps on giving.
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>>143634631
See what I mean?
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>>143634563
>Goku legitimately did not understand his son

>>143633994
Holy shit Piccolofags are retarded.
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>>143634673

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aDcWucKFjA

Look how shocked Goku is

Get mad that I'm right fag
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>>143634563
>Goku legitimately did not understand his son
So do a lot of fathers.
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Y donde esta Gohan?
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>>143634771
>Ignoring the facts
Piccolofags everyone. Get his non existence dick out of your mouth retard.
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future gohan was only trained by piccolo
main timeline gohan had the shitty influence of goku and look how that turned out
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Yamcha would have been a good father.
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>>143634883
>Rich
>Intelligent
>still strong as fuck
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>>143634883
>future gohan was only trained by piccolo
Died in a puddle.
>main timeline gohan had the shitty influence of goku
Saved the Earth from Cell, married with a child and achieved his childhood dream of being scholar
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So how will Trunks power up to become relevant? He needs to, doesn't he
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>>143634932
>infant daughter is stronger than him
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>>143634932
Don't forget the wicked sense of humor.
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>>143634973

And look how much of a skinny nerd he is

Gohan basically got one shot by Frieza. One death beam and he was halfway on death's row.
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>>143634989
Still his daughter
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>>143634973
Why is Videl so petite?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJN9up_LLF8

Am I the only one who likes the new ED but finds it weird how they'd use the most lighthearted song so far for the "darkest" arc?
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>>143634973
Did they ever explain why Future Gohan was wrecked hard despite training for 13 straight years? Main timline Gohan only trained for a year and surpassed the Androids.
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>>143635050
They have to trick the censors somehow.
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>>143634973
The gains goblin really did a number on him.
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>>143635085
Get some common sense and maybe you will figure it out
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>>143635150
Holy shit. He has toothpicks for arms.
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>>143635085

Wasn't it because Gohan or anybody else knows the limits of a Super Saiyan so they didn't ascended to 2nd Grade?
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>>143635180
The food?
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>>143635085
fucking retard, Gohan had nobody good to train with
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>>143635085
he could have win if he have his two arms and did not got ganged up by the androids, plus he didn't know that he can ascend beyond a normal saiyan.
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>>143633146

Uh, 4 times.
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>black getting rekt by whitey
Nothing new.
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>Gohanfags STILL think their character is relevant

Face it, even Pilaf has gotten twice as much screen time than Gohan ever will throughout the entirety of Super.
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I don't even surprised. At this point noone can't beat Goku. He's a god already.
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>>143635245
Remind me, how has Vegeta trained all these years?
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The sausages are RIGHT THERE. Are Beerus and Whis blind?
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Wait, how did Black recognize Vegeta if Vegeta was long dead in FT timeline?
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>>143635294
black liked the beating at least. that slut
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>>143635322
with Whis and Goku.
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>>143635351
same thing could be asked why does he know beerus
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>>143635351
Because he's Cell in Goku's body.
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>>143630191
He stole Future Goku's corpse and reanimated it.
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>>143635351
Vegeta is deified, the clans tell tales of him
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>>143632679
Yes.
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the time machine literally did nothing wrong.

Fucking niggers never breaking things
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>>143635436
If Black really is a walking dead goku I wonder why he looks so different?
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>>143634631
nigger detected
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Let me get this straight, Black ""absorbed"" SSJ2 Goku's fighting technique and power into himself? So when Goku eventually goes SSJB and fights him he'll become as strong as that?
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>>143628848
>knows Beerus
>not freaked out by him chilling with Goku and the others
>knows Vegeta, who died decades ago in his time line
>can barely keep up with SSJ Goku
>happy that he is alone on a dead future earth
what the fuck is going on
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>>143635413
Why would Cell know a God of Destruction?
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Why was Black happy that Trunks was gone from the future timeline if he can easily kick his ass? Wasn't the whole point was that he wanted to kill him?
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>>143635794
Becuase he has Frieza's DNA and so does Frieza.
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>>143635794
>(戦闘力無限大!! セルという名の破壊神誕生; lit. "Infinite attack power! A God of Destruction called Cell is born")
Because he is one.
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>>143635338
they're just the peeled off condoms
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>>143635815
it means that future earth is now him and no pesky warrior to stop his fun
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>>143635838
>Cell has infinite attack power
>still loses

Explain this, atheists.
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>>143635914
Gohan went beyond infinity.
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>>143635824
I don't think that is how dna works.
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>>143635914
He has infinite attack power but can't access all of it at the same time :^)
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>>143635968
It is in Dragon Ball, which is why Cell knows all those moves. IT FITS
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>>143635724
>the last hope is gone
>he can literally fuck with future earth and make it as his training ground
OF course he would be happy
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>>143635947

>Most of the cards printed from that arc ended up shit

A shame really, it's not like it would of been that broken compared to the shit out these days.
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>>143635914
nevermind that, how about a scientist from earth being able to construct a creature more powerful than frieza
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>>143636040
He was a very good scientist.
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Think Black Goku fucked Chichi?
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>>143636058
yeah, too bad he was apparently a retard during the red ribbon saga
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>>143636068
I really wouldn't be surprised if he actually killed her. Seems like the thing he would do for shit and giggles.
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>>143633692
welcome to the main fucking issue with dbz.
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>>143632932
To be frank, I wouldn't give a fuck about dying either if I 100% knew there was a confirmed legit afterlife where I get to keep my personality and memories.
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>>143635295

Gohan will be the one to go super Saiyan white against ultra perfect cell jr
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>>143634418
Does getting cucked by your future self really count as getting cucked?
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>>143636148
>Gohan unlocks a new ultimate power up to face off against Legendary Platinum Cell
>gets destroyed one episode later because he gets cocky
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I hope we get to see what happened to future Pilaf and Shuu.
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>>143633383
best dad AND best granpa, don't forget about that.
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>>143636110
>personality and memories.
Speaking of that, i wonder if we have multiple realities of ourselves? Hie would someone you know on earth be suddenly forgotten in the afterlife if they went to hell?
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Kid trunks is going through some existential crisis
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>>143636240
>Hie
Wut?
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>>143636004
>woohoo now I've got this dead and empty mud ball all for myself
If he wanted a training ground he could have picked any random planet in the galaxy. Also, why would Trunks be the 'last hope'? The guy is dozens of leagues below Beerus and other DB Super characters who should all be fine in his timeline.
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>>143632128

Isn't Base Goku on a whole another level than Mystic Gohan, or even Super Boo at his strongest after absorbing the God Ki during his second fight with Beerus?
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>>143636040

I actually never thought it was that weird that a human could make an android stronger than freiza. There is a lot of technology on earth that isn't found anywhere else in the universe (capsules, sensu beans, delicious food. Also if you think about it no matter how strong you are it would still hurt to punch a big metal object.
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>>143636358
He is. Same with Vegeta after he unlocked Super Cyan.

SSJ3 Gotenks (a fusion) literally couldn't lay a hand on base form Vegeta.

Base form Veggie and Goku are incredibly overpowered now.
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>>143636358
considering base Vegeta's stomping of ssj3 Gotenks, yes
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>>143636345
well he did say that he fucked up a lot of planets along the way and is using the current plant to 'perfect' his powers.

probably his gonna move into another planet after his done with it.
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>>143636424
>>143636396
>SSJ3 Gotenks (a fusion) literally couldn't lay a hand on base form Vegeta.

Wasn't aware of that. That anon's post was nonsensical then, or even stupid if he actually watches Super.
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>it's a goku and vegeta powerups their enemy till they get outclass arc
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>>143636576
RoF is going to be forever relevant with how Goku and Vegeta don't destroy their enemies when given the chance and just let them snowball out of their league.
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>>143636576
black confirmed for abusing zenkai boost to get stronger
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>>143636576
S-So Gohan will show up to get them out of this mess again, right? RIGHT?!
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>>143632561
Future trunks got one hell of surprise from that
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since when did the anime originals start?
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>>143636828
as in not movie? ep 28
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>>143635914
He lowered his ki
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>>143633112

You have literally goku with red and blue hair and a Goku that is black, and a golden frieza.

There is nothing this series has to offer or salvage creatively, even simple ideas like that anon are better than this.
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>>143634399
So how often do you think Mai fucked the dog and Pilaf

I mean she was in her 60's at least and they were the only 2 around her
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>>143636828
Episode 28 but there as some anime-original material before the BoG arc started in the anime and some more between BoG and RoF arcs of the anime.
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>>143636883
thanks
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>>143637047

Mai has no idea what sex even is. She's so pure she probably still thinks that Storks bring babies.
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>>143637047
Mai was 40 (2 years older than Bulma).
And never, she's pure.
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dragon ball super is still on?! it's not over after that cat thing??
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>>143637066
>>143636883
is it still QUALITY?
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Decided to clear out my backlog of some of the DB games I haven't played, this game had really good models for PS2 standards. Budokai 2 and 3 have better shading but the models definitely got downgraded as far as polycount and animation smoothness goes.

Gotta play this, Budokai 3 (only played 2 and Infinite World aka 3.5), Burst Limit, Raging Blast games, and Shin Budokai games.
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>>143637148
I know, right? It's ridiculous
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>>143637188
Tournament arc was overall better but still had plenty of QUALITY moments.
This new arc is a major improvement however.

>>143637148
Go back to sleeping under a rock and kill yourself.
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>tfw you can see armor pieces flying
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLNx6rEwLTk

IT'S OOOOOOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER FRIEZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>143637302
I really like the soundtrack in this game.
Reminds me of DB Kai, is it the same composer?
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>>143636193
>>143633383
piccolo is gohan's big brother at most being only 4-5 years older than gohan
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>>143637221
oh shit, now i have something to watch.
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>>143637188

It's Toei. Nothing they make is free from QUALITY.
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>>143634399
they dont fucking mess around
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>>143637366
Yes and yes almost all the songs in the game are also plagiarized.
He does have goid taste, because all the songs are goat.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FZZeOh2DL7M
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k_iRB_kQswQ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=myyrKwA7Sko
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>>143636155
that's even worse
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>>143637470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8xglSAE4zc&list=PLC61CBD3C0E2463A0&index=32

This track especially is DB Kai as fuck. And not everything is plagiarized I believe, Yamamoto did compose good chunk of the music himself, it's just he also stole a lot in addition to that.
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so next episode is flashback while then next episode is Future trunks and Gohan interacting right?
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>>143637604
It is real shame that he isn't allowed to do any soundtrackscanymore, because the ost really made the game for me as a kid.
The game is also why I am a dbzfag in the firstplace.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=PLC61CBD3C0E2463A0&v=bjWKHsDhHQA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DxzMI7JGkk0
Dem solos
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>>143637795
Yeah I actually had to use a patch to restore the original music to the HD Collection, since in case you don't know HD Collection music is censored.
God bless CFW.
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>>143637677
no, next episode is future mai somehow talking to Ftrunks in the past
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>>143637917
As if, it looked more like Trunks will tell everyone about Mai since Vegeta remarks in shock on Loli Mai being his waifu in the Future.

Future Mai seems to run into Black if the preview is anything to go by.
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Exactly how was a piece of OST plagerized?
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Black is a creature that hijacked alternate Goku's corpse.
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>>143637980
>piece
He literally 1:1 stole famous songs.

https://youtu.be/PXBM7tJQ1V4?t=1m27s
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They keep going on about time traveling being a crime, I bet Trunks fucked something up.
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>>143638081
No shit, Whis is the Chekhov's Gun of Super.

DBO and Xenoverse also explicitly said Time Travel is a crime.
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Since Goku and Vegeta both are faggots for their own reasons:

They should just do the SSG ritual with Future Trunks instead of Pan, train him in Time Chamber to achieve SSB and then send him into the future to annihilate Black before he becomes too strong.

The "spare the opponent until he gets too powerful" is so overdone and painful to watch.
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>>143638132
What I mean is that's probably the Kaioshin's motivation, hence Black talking about making humans pay.
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>>143638081
And yet they later promote him to head of the Time Patrol after he has nothing else to live for
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>>143638482
>they're barring him from the future timeline and killing his mom just to shill Xenoverse 2
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>>143632082
And the award for most awkward phrase taken out of contest goes to.
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>>143638723
context
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>Great Saiyanman in the ED

Is he finally going to return?
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>>143638482
that was really just a bunch of horseshit the supreme kai had used because she was lonely
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>>143637047
>Pilaf Gang
>sex

As if. They are turbo virgins.
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>>143638186
What if Black absorbs power? Or like Hit, where he can easily improves? I get the annoyance of Goku holding back, but sometimes for me it's just an act of being careful. Though i doubt that's the reason of Goku for "playing around" with his opponent, at least it makes me less annoyed when he do so.
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>>143638755
in the next next episode.

Probably as sparring partner
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>That fucking infinity-like symbol on Goku Black's ring.

Ok I am convinced they are actively dicking around now. It's either blatantly obvious we're gonna see the Time Breakers or they put that there just to troll.
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>>143638806
I read myths about goddesses kidnapping boys into becoming their fuckbois because they feel lonely
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>>143633207
>mfw his hair turns purple in God mode.
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where the fucking fuck is gohan anyway?
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>>143639050
Fucking Videl
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Seeing as that's a ring of time, we're probably going to see the Supreme Kai of Kawaii soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vHkLvkMO2o


And my body is more than ready.
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>>143639050
Wiped from the story until the meetup episode.
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>>143634421
Gohan kinda looks like Charlie Brown there.

Also, that's a bit harsh on Piccolo, I mean that's literally Piccolo the same day he met Gohan, and the same day when he was not only completely outskilled by Raditz, but also came to know he was the weakest of the Saiyan trio. He's doing what he has to do, and his logic is sound, Gohan can't become a scholar if they destroy earth. In fact, it was his bonding with Gohan AFTER this that mellowed him out a little, but at this point he's only the son of his hated rival, who also has more potential than his own.
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>>143639003
his hair looks like purple when bathed in flames
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>>143639111
I hope he trained in the meantime
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>>143632082
>That Black person's power keeps on rising!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xA0ZHEwU2Q
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>>143635510
Undoubtedly, that monologue is one of the greatest moments in Dragonball.
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>>143638019

It's insane how long he got away with it.
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>>143639372
He's been stealing since Super Butoden days on SNES.
It's literally been THAT long.
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>>143631745

I'm hoping the comment Whis makes about strength (basically power levels) not being everything means something later on.

I'm waiting for Black or that Zamasu guy to fuck up the timeline on purpose and its up to brains and not brawn to actually win. Bulma already has played a huge role, in addition to Mai being hinted to play one too. And neither of them knows how to fight.

The fact that Mai and Bulma can play such pivotal roles without doing any fighting is the best direction this series can take. It honestly should go back to its roots from DB and incorporate machine technology and magic into it again. Using the time machine and time ring (technology vs magical devices) is a nice contrast to just pure brawn overpowering anything.

I think making this comment is a bit hasty since it seems like they want to break the "power levels" problem where the series gets too boring by having characters that are way too above Vegeta or Goku and bringing divine and magical beings back with more prominence. That was particularly something the Buu saga did well, since magic made Buu a lot more fearsome.
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>>143628848
Trunks could transform to ssj2 too for some reason meaning he was training in his timeline, how he got cucked by blaku so easily again?
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>>143640250

Same reason Goku can beat SSJ2 Trunks in base form.
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>>143632810
>Hey, i just arrived in the time machine, let's LEAVE IT OUT IN THE FUKCING OPEN WHERE EVEN PILAF COULD STEAL IT.

They literally had gods and strongest people in the universe right next to it, and nobody expected black to come through time and space, it's not stupid at all.
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>>143637866
I know that is why I didn't buy the collection
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>>143640453
Why do you think people put their shit away?
To prevent things like these.

>Oh shi, i forgot to put the bread away, now i have a block.
>Oh shi, i stepped on the fucking LEGO bricks
>Oh shi, i accidentally the time machine.

That's how things are.
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>>143633969
>>143633810
I thought it was just going to be a shitty edgefest, but somehow "Black" seems to be working out pretty well. I'm enjoying this arc so far.
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>>143632538
Man the 90s chara design was fucking perfect.

Fuck Super and its bland shit.
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The biggest problem with Super is Trunks and Mai.

I mean, Mai must be at least 45 years old or something like that, how can she and Trunks become a couple?

Fucking disgusting.
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>>143628848
Well, Black isn't using his full power yet, and that only happened because of his ring.
>by a regular Super Saiyan Goku
Weren't they on par?
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>>143632679
Vegeta's development during the Buu saga is probably one of the saga's few redeeming aspects.

I might argue Gohan got the most development throughout the whole series. I know it doesn't seem like it considering how the Buu saga dropped its promise of focusing just on him/and all this Super shit, but yeah, we literally got to watch him grow up, only other character who had that advantage was Goku and Kuririn.
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>>143633994
You're literally posting the counterargument to your argument. In this scene, Goku completely misreads his son and Gohan nearly dies because of it.

I hate the "le goku bad dad meme" too, but this is specifically an example of Goku fucking up as a father, and it's some of the best character development he gets in the series.
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>>143635914
Because Cell's infinity was a cardinal infinity and Cell was up against an ordinal infinity in terms of power.
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>>143641189
>hurr durr gib me moar stronk muscly characters liek bruly

Kill yourself.
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>>143636040
If you want to get technical, the androids and Cell were vastly inferior to Frieza, Frieza was just a lazy shit who never trained and unlocked his true potential.

Then again, with the heights Goku, Vegeta, and Frieza would later reach, means Cell should be able to do the same, if not greater... so, fuck it.
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>>143641499
Black was doing the goku habit of not going full power

he wants to have fun and get stronger
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>>143641732
>You're literally posting the counterargument to your argument
>Goku completely misreads his son
Wrong dumbass it shows that Goku knows Gohan wants to be a scholar and doesn't except him to be a carbon copy of himself like most "Gohan"fags want.
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>>143633692

Muh Honor.

Even when they were fighting Buu, Goku and Vegeta still took turns stalling until they came upw ith a solution.
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>>143636396
You need to remember that SSJ is a multiplier. Gotenks going SSJ 3 is a multiplication of a rather weak base form.
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>>143634805
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>Black fights some more maybe even with some god and becomes super powerful
>Goku has to struggle until he beats him surpassing his limits

Can't wait
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>>143641497
I think this is quite interesting though. what if you were turned into a child again? how would your psyche handle it?
at the beginning you'd act like your adult self - sure, but I guess over time you more and more accommodate to your body's age and to how people treat you and how the situations in your life need you to be.
I think you'll more and more forget how old you are and it will be like a distant memory.
but then again, toriyama probably just forgot or ignores to make the writing more easy.
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>>143635276
No.
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>>143638132
>Chekhov's Gun

Who was Chekhov?
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How hard is Goku now?
He has the Ultimate sparring partner, himself.
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>>143631956
God himself gave Beerus permission to blow up shit. You cant really fault Beerus anymore for that.

Also, the DB universe has an afterlife so its not a big deal to die.
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>>143631362
>>143631498
>>143632082
>>143632423
>>143636068
Remainder we are going to get pic related thanks to Goku for letting Black to get stronger.
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This fucks just teasing the time breakers insignia.
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>>143636155

I personally think it's an advance form of masturbation.
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>>143632423
>villain who gets stronger every time he feels pain

...Im pretty sure its just that hes learning.
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>>143635085
>>143635180
>>143635202
>>143635245
Because the plot needed it. Trunks trained alone fir one year in the time chamber and he got Buff Saiyan, strong enough to kill the androids.
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>>143636707
He is going to appear in two episodes, you fucking moron. Also kill youself.
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>>143642634
Wrong
>Get some common sense and maybe you will figure it out
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>>143637223
>Tournament arc was overall better
Superfags think this.
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>>143636332
keke

it is kinda funny seeing him go through this
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>>143635050
Beerus and Champa look really cute in it.

But Im not a fan of the song.
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>>143642221
>Gotenks
>weak base form
Nigger he on par with Super Boo.
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>>143637105
Imagine F Trunks having to give her the talk

>>143637116
41 according to Mai herself in BoG
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>>143640438
What? Trunks fought Goku in SSJ2.
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>>143642448
Google you dumb fuck
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>>143635322
It doesn't count as training "Alone" when you directly have someone much MUCH stronger than you but with all the same base potential as you to show you what's possible.
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>>143642752
his gonna go on early maturity at this point

It must really suck seeing your future self being fucked over.
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>>143642551
Who the hell are the time breakers?
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Black goku looks even more edgy than tagoma
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>>143642708
Think for a second. In the manga and anime FGohan is showed training, he is fucking ripped, FTrunks just needed one year to go Buff Saiyan abd he did it alone because Vegeta was a tsundere at the time.
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>>143642923
they are people that break time
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>>143628848
Will Gohan do something in this arc?
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>>143642923
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Time_Breakers
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>>143642800
Do you think you couldn't beat up a kid? Because that's what Gotenks is.
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>>143642923
Online, and, Xenoverse faction
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>>143630526
>collapses instantly
>s-stalemate blrargrgahgh
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>>143642856
I don't think Vegeta had someone to train with after Goku died. Because first he got his depression (I won't fight anymore) and second he only trained in his gravity room.
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>>143642992
I do think I wouldn't be able to beat up a magic fusion of two alien superhumans that could destroy the planet with one energy wave if they wanted. Yes.
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>>143642984
>Video game plots

Not canon.
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Whats the deal with Toriyhack and his love for Xenoverse.

That shit was stupid as fuck
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>>143639219
have you not been watching?

that nigga has been training since before the u6 tourney
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>>143635510
Vegeta: the original Tsun
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>>143642924
his pretty tame for being a villain

Nigga is having fun

nothing wrong with that
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>>143643046

You didn't even read my post.

He didn't train WITH Goku. But he had a power to aspire to because Goku was present.

Future Gohan didn't have a stronger power to aspire to until the androids showed up, and by then he had to fight for his life almost every day. Doesn't leave much time for training.
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>>143643054
DBO is a special case of being written by Toriyama, stay salty.
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>>143630191
>black's body has heart problems too
He doesn't. Goku just kept hitting him in the chest. Black was just too weak to shrug off his attacks.
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>>143642982
Read the sumary of the episodes, you fucktard. In two episodes.
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>>143643063
He has no love for Xenoverse, it just continues the plot he wanted to do in Dragon Ball Online.
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>>143643123
>continues
Xenoverse is a prequel to DBO plot.
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>>143637047

Even as an adult, Pilaf probably thought girls were gross.

Mai is a ridiculously naive turbo virgin.

The only member of their group who has any chance at getting laid is the dog.
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>>143643053
No, you fool. You just don't get it.
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>>143641942
As true as this is, what would happen if Cell trained for 4 days, considering Frieza bullshit training boost ability and Saiyan bullshit power levels? What if he almost died every day he trained as well?

Nothing. You cannot improve on what is already PERFECT.
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>>143643054
>inb4 this arc is a kind of prequel to Xenoverse and it made somehow canon
I would laugh at that
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>>143643090
>But he had a power to aspire to because Goku was present.
What the fuck are you talking about? Since when this fucking magic was introduced. FGohan trained since the androids appeared, that's why he got SSJ and getting your ass kicked for 13 years would give him a great amount of Zenkais.
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>>143643064
he has been training with piccolo who fought at the tournament at which gohan didn't show up because of some meeting. no word about his training ever since. and instead of looking after his daughter, gohan hat dinner with some professor dude
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>>143643190

Cell could just blow himself up and get a zenkai every time
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>>143631828
He probably doesn't know himself. Gods are prohibited from using time travel to the past. Traveling to the future doesn't really have adverse effects since it's a scenario which isn't set in stone and that's probably why kaioshin are allowed to use it.
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>>143643252
>and instead of looking after his daughter
He ditched that job to spend time with Pan and Videl.
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>>143643246
>What the fuck are you talking about? Since when this fucking magic was introduced.

It's not a difficult concept to comprehend. Without someone to challenge your limits, you wont get stronger. Vegeta's limit has always been challenged by Goku.

Stop being retarded.

And Future Gohan achieved SSJ because of emotional trauma, not training.
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Based Bulma still has a good head on her shoulders and remembered Cell's time machine.
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If the xenoverse plot becomes canon that means that every movie villain will become canon too.
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shunshushunshus shu shushun
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>>143643315
exactly. and where's the training there? I really hope Ftrunks talks some sense into gohan and drags him into the time chamber
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>>143636396
>still can't survive a laser
They sure are strong. It's like no one is misinterpreting their base power levels.
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>>143643140
Which is a continuation technically.
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am I the only one who noticed that Gohan is back to being buff again in the ED? It's fucking happening, him and Trunks will be the ones to go to the future instead of Goku/Vegeta.
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>>143643366
They're all alternate timelines technically :^)
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>>143643366
>black goku, goku, adult goten and turles walk into a bar
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>>143643459
You are adorably deluded.
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>>143643459

Well the next episode is called gohan and future trunks
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>>143643549
No it's not.
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>>143643146
even back in DB. They were way too pure for that
The dog is no exception
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>>143643481
>Broly dies from heart attack
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>>143643366
then gt will be canon as well
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>>143643351
>It's not a difficult concept to comprehend. Without someone to challenge your limits
Except this has never happened in the series and it is your headcanon. Trunks in the Cell saga trained alone and he was far stronger than Vegeta. Vegeta during the seven years after the Cell saga trained fucking alone and he got SSJ2. Goku got SSJ3 and he trained alone.
Stop using your headcanons.
>And Future Gohan achieved SSJ because of emotional trauma, not training.
Post the page, then. Gohan needed to train for one year to get SSJ.
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When Black says strongest of the greatest warrior race, does that mean
>Goku is the strongest of all timelines
or
>Goku is the strongest only in the future timeline
There has to be a reason why he jacked Goku's body instead of someone like Future Hit
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>>143643602
>Broly goes Legendary Super Saiyan God Legendary Super Saiyan Legendary Super Saiyan Fury White God*

FTFY
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>>143643374
>and where's the training there?
Eh, I doubt they could showed him training in that episode, anon.
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>>143643616
Toriyama already said it is canon as a side story, as in alternate timeline.
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>>143643366
>Canon Broly

LETS FUCKING GO
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>>143643662
He probably just jacked Goku's body because Goku is naive and would be vulnerable to some technique like that. Can't really imagine Hit getting suckered like that.
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>>143643711
>as a side story, as in alternate timeline
Basically non-canon
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Beerus? oh you mean my house cat
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>>143643107
That doesn't answer my question though.
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>>143643791
Yeah, anon, let me use my future vision to answer you.
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>>143643790
>broly, like frieza, was born with a genetic mutation that gave him incredible strength
>broly, like freiza, never trained
>frieza with training got close to Super Saiyan Blue levels
If Broly both trained and obtained God Ki, he'd be pretty bullshit OP right?
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>>143643694
nah man, you misunderstood me. I wanted to say that gohan talked about not wanting the job so he can spend time with his family. not with training, but his family.
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>>143643790
>>143643907
LSSJ broly body couldn't contain all the power he had, thats why during the movies you see him randomly shooting out shit. God ki would just make himself explode.
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>>143643907
He dosn't have to train.

With each passing minute he gets stronger and stronger.

Like Black and Hit
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>>143643907
Zeno level i'm sure.
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>>143639210
Holy shit, Present Trunks is always in God mode, and that's why his hair is purple.

My theory is flawless.
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>>143643966
>god ki
>controled ki
>god ki so controlled you can use kaioken

You mean would make Broly OP as fuck because he was more controlled?
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Why is the manga so much better than the anime? I bursted out laughing the way the King of Cosmos speaks.
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>>143643992
>God mode
>His hair turns gold in SSj

uh oh
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>>143643922
Oh, that too. I mean if he can't go home to see daddy Piccolo he can't train. That episode was family oriented.
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>>143643907
He would be pretty OP if he trained. I think Cell would be pretty OP as well. He has the DNA of both Frieza and the Saiyans inside him doesn't her? He would be able to go Super Perfect Golden Super God.
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Why did Goku go SSJ2? Wasn't it stated that those two forms are useless now that Goku has god ki?
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With Mirai Mai still being alive.

Black is gonna go full Griffifth mode on her, just to make Trunks suffer again.
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>>143644238
You are a lazy viewer, please re watch the latest episodes and it's explained why.
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>>143644330
I haven't watched Super in a long while, and won't be catching up any time soon.
That's why I'm asking.
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>>143644238
It's just Goku being Goku. Vegeta straight up told Trunks that Goku has a bad habit of not taking his fights seriously from the start. It's probably going to bite him in the ass with this arc just like it did with RoF.
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>>143644471
Vegeta (Mr. "I purposely let Cell powerup and almost destroy the world") is not one to talk.
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>>143644409
Ok then. I'll spoonfeed.

Goku tested power levels with Trunks. So he realised that Black was on SSJ2 level. So he went SSJ2 (and maybe used less Ki too, because OP base form) to mimic Black power level. Or he would totally rekt Black and bye bye Super plot.
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>>143644563
Saiyans are just retards in general, especially full blooded ones. Frieza did nothing wrong.
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So, as someone who watched both Battle of Gods and Resurrection F a while ago, and now wants to watch the series, at what point can I start watching without missing any major information? Don't feel like watching all those episodes when they really just show the same stuff again that I already saw.

>read the manga
I don't feel like reading right now, I just want to watch something simple while semi-slumbering in bed.
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>>143644563
To be fair, back then Vegeta was a borderline villain. He even killed a random civilian during his fight with 18
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>>143644723
Watch episodes 1, 2, 18, 39, 44 and 46~.
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>>143641497

>not fucking a hot cougar

anon, why do you like suck dick this much?
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>>143644663
Fun fact: Before Toriyama joined the BoG staff, it was planned that Beerus's ki was like a virus (his name a pun to virus rather than beer) than infect with hate and violence so he cursed the saiyans and made them into mass murderers. Basically the Uchiha's curse of hatred
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>>143644581
>Or he would totally rekt Black and bye bye Super plot.
That's exactly what Future Trunks would have done if he could. Fucking Goku.
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>>143632498
>tfw his hair won't change color at all
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>>143644861
>>143644663
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>>143635475
Holy shit! Never expected Legacy of Kain in such thread.
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>>143631922
Beerus and Whis have made it pretty clear they have no intention of intervening when whatever villain decides to go after Goku and Vegeta.
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>>143642372
Sounds like Conan
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So the current most likely guess is that Black is some Kai who bodyswapped with Goku and gets stronger every time he gets his ass kicked, only even more than normal saiyans?

Wew lad, that seems like a lot. Also, if the Kai did swap bodies with Goku, how the fuck did that even happen since Future Goku died of a heart attack ages ago.
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>>143635980
underrated and reasonable response
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>>143644861
>That's exactly what Future Trunks
And Trunks would have wasted Ki, made Black stronger and then got rekted.
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The real question is why beerus didn't stop majin buu when he went on a rampage across the galaxy and kai's had to die to stop him.
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>>143634104
Gohan being stronger than Goku during the Cell Games after their time-chamber training
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>>143645034
now that you say it - yes.
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>>143645195
he was sleeping?
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Soooo
why not use the dragon balls to repair the time machine ?
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>>143645195
cat nap and if the translation was correct old kai said that he wasn't as strong as buu at the time
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>>143645257
Bad writing. I can't believe this garbage has a 8.5 rating on imdb
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>>143630191
Remember lad, Goku dies all the time and keeps his body in the Otherworld.
You know the place Kaioshin's live?

My guess is some Kaioshin went rogue, stole the Ring of Time, done some voodoo shit with Otherworld Goku and became Blacku.
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>>143633071
>Or not bathing(Ew, shouldn't he have a beard like Vegeta and Goku did after long training periods?)
Not bathing doesn't give you a beard, faggot
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>>143645257
so the plot can move on
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>>143645257
Waste of a wish, Bulma can make a new one. Watch the episode next time faggot.
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>>143645319
But Goku got tired for one day in Earth and he had to go to the otherwold to restore his ki in the Buu saga.
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>>143633652
fuck off, god damn it, your use of the word 'job' is so goddamn annoying you fucking spic
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Reminder at a time Buu was stronger than Beerus.
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>>143633889
Glad to hear you say that. The exact same can be said about soldiers. I've always asserted that people who go into the army who also have a family are the most selfish bastards in existence.
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>>143643616
Fuck
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>>143645378
Yeah but while everyone was panicking and forgot about the cellmobile someone should've brought it up.
I mean they've basically use Shenron for everything at one point.
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>>143645257
Didnt they just use the dragonballs recently in the Beerus arc?
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>>143639102
Why does she wear high heels?
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Does anyone have a webm of Black flying after being kicked by Goku? The one where they recycled same animation three times.
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>>143645421
Don't be such an /asp/ie.
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So when does Trunks hair change colors?
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>>143639102
God I hope not.
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>>143645467
Reminder that this is most likely a translation error.
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POST YFW FUTURE MAI IS ACTUALLY NOT KILL
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>>143645620
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>>143633692
Goku and Vegeta fucking hate it when others interfere with their fights. They only fight 1v1s and since they the strongest niggas around no one is going to fuck with their rules.

This has been established since Cell Games.
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>>143645477
Goku is a retard, you can't have high expectation for a retard. He is a bad father because his mind can't understand what a father is expected to do. Everything he does he does it because that's what Chi Chi tells him to do, but at the end of the day he would prefer to be training.
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unrelated, but why do all namekians look alike when none of king piccolo's sons save for junior resembled him?
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>>143645652
This is true.

It's also easier to set up a 1-on-1 fight.
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>it's another goku plays around and lets the villain get stronger episode
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>>143632561
Dear fucking god what the fuck are you staring at Vegeta? Your son is below you.
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>>143645714
Goku is the true villain in DB.
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>>143645664
>you can't have high expectation for a retard.
That's why no one has any expectations for you anon.
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>have magic balls to summon a dinosaur
>never use them
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>>143645753

that's deep man
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>>143645714
>Everybody notices this time
>They still do jack shit about it because they ain't strong

Wew
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>>143643711
I don't recall him saying alternate timeline. He said something along the lines of "wonderful little side story."
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>>143645777
They used them to revive the people Frieza killed.
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>>143645753
How many times did milions die and planets explode because Goku just fucks around ?
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>>143645714
Are you stupid? Goku kicked his ass.
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>>143645777

Why don't they use the dragon balls to wish for another time machine? Or fix the one they lost?
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>>143645809
Namek, Goku can literally go there in a thought.
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>>143645692
Because they changed picollo to be namekian in dbz and retconned that shit in db

He was originally a demon
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>>143645862
Supreme Kai used them to be unfused.
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>>143645834
Read the thread retard
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>>143645608
Here's official
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>>143645881
But how long ago was that ? Plus with just one wish they'be back to normal in just 4 months.
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>>143645918
DELETE THIS.
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>>143634421
Piccolo was still a villain at that point.
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>>143645831
He could have killed him in one hit, but instead Black is gonna get stronger
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>>143645820
Well if it wasn't for Whis ex machina, Goku fucking around caused the destruction of the entire planet. Including the death of his wife and baby granddaughter.
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>>143645969
That actually sounds like something Goku would let happen.
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>>143645918
>Viz
Someone read the raws.
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>>143645692
They are mutants.
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>>143646013
>sexual tension
They are brother and sister.
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>>143643771
Yeah. Like Future Trunks life right? Fucking idiot.
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>>143646018
It's the only reason the series is still goign
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>>143645918
so what excuse will Super give for modern Buu being so weak?
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>>143636110
Only the strong get that, the rest are turned into moeblob spirit that get to do nothing forever.
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>>143646042
and?
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>Whoever is possessing Black Goku challenges Goku and Kakarrot stomps him without even going even further beyond

Sure is a super threatening antagonist so far.

I'm hoping he's just a manservant to the real villain at this point. I'm guessing Towa or someone that is related to DBO/Xenoverse.
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>>143645969
>He could have killed him in one hit
Source your ass

>but instead Black is gonna get stronger
Wrong the way that they described it if Goku fought with anything stronger than SS2, Black would have just improved that much more.
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>>143646079
evil kid buu was all the strength and power. All that strength and power got reincarnated as uub. Fat buu is pretty much just the fat kai
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>>143630508
shut up!
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black has the heart virus?
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>>143646139
>Source your ass
Not him, but Goku didn't even use his full power and they were pretty evenly matched at SSJ2.
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>>143645753
almost every arc starts like this
>there is some strong character that we can kill quickly with a wish/before the get to full power
>goku and vegeta
>"or.....we can let them get stronger"
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>>143634973
Holyshit, his noodle arms...
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>>143646187
Probably, wich probably means he's in future Goku's corpse... eeew
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>>143646079
I think it was mentioned that Fat Buu lost a lot of power when his evil side left him.
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>>143646187
No, he was clutching his chest because Goku punched and kicked him there. Probably indicating that Black isn't a powerful as we think he is.
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>>143646187
he somehow got a hold of goku's dead body in trunks time line and when ever he gets hit his heart virus kicks in
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>>143646139
>implying kaio-ken X10 super saiyan blue kamehameha wouldn't have killed him
It's not like Goku hasn't done this before, he doesn't care about winning a fight unless his opponent's power is close to his own.
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>>143635914
Because his defensive stats were shit. It's why he put a bunch of points in regen.
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>>143646195
>>143646268
Read the rest of post faggots.
>the way that they described it if Goku fought with anything stronger than SS2, Black would have just improved that much more.
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>>143646122
hey you never know, they might mortally wound someone with a powerlevel of infinity squared if they catch him off guard :^)
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>the heart virus makes him stronger
Remind me of that ebola guy who said his getting stronger
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>>143636332
Whenever Future Trunks is involved, there's suffering. Even for his kid self.
THIS IS WHAT THEY MEANT NEVER TO TRUST ANYONE, NOT EVEN YOURSELF!
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>>143646345
Did you miss the flashback where it showed Goku punched and kicked him in the chest?
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>>143646187
And FGoku still doesn't give a shit to help FTrunks via King Kai.
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>>143646310
>Get punched hard
>improve from some kind of zenkai effect

>Get evaporated in one blast
Good luck improving after that
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>>143636332
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>>143638901
How much will Trunks blow Mai's mind when he finally gives her a dicking?
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>>143646448
>Good luck improving after that
Tell that to Hit faggot.
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>>143645692
He's corrupted Namekian so his offspring might be corrupted but also don't forget that he's from Dragon Clan... This clan can create dragons like Shenron or Porunga, throw in corruption to the bowl and you have Daimao acting like a demon and creating a bunch of lizards without divine power that was in his good side that became Kami. It's completely logical to me.
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>>143646155
that's not I meant. I meant what's the excuse for Buu being weaker than Beerus.
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>>143646239
Does this mean people in DB bury the corpses? I thought Chi Chi for being chinese was going to burn Goku's body.
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>>143645467
Beerus sealed him in that sword?
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>>143646544
>completely logical to me
Dragonballsuper fags can make sense of anything.
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>>143646529
Not him but Hit was evenly matched with fucking SSJB while Black was around SSJ2 level you fucking faggot.
SSJB Kaioken x10 Kamehameha would murder him in an instant.
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>>143646448
>Get evaporated in one blast
>Good luck improving after that
Didn't this work for Cell?
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>>143645831
lol if goku went ssb he could've one-shot black.

goku's a fucking dumbass
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>>143646708
yup old kai and beerus don't see eye to eye
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>>143645467
>>143645608
>>143645918
>>143646020
Can someone ask that one dude Kanzenshuu dude? Herm something?
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>>143646872
Cell was Cell, that was kinda his thing
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>>143635666
>>143634631
He isn't wrong though.
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>>143646792
Check out this fucking idiot. Even GT is better than Super. And you got viable explanation for corruption of Kami. It's clear that you have no idea about things and characters from DBZ.
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>>143633889
You're one of those tumblrfags that relate to Hope from FFXIII with your whiny 1st world problems aren't you

Get off 4chan because you don't belong
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>>143646117
It's the same as when Vegeta didn't kill Cell when he was in his second form, because he wanted to fight him at his strongest.

Or how Gohan failed to kill both Cell and Super Buu because he got too overconfident.
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>>143646848
>>143646886
>Black was around SSJ2 level
Wrong dumbass watch the episode

>SSJB Kaioken x10 Kamehameha would murder him in an instant.
Source your ass
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>>143633810
Goku said that too.
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>>143647025
>Wrong dumbass watch the episode
Why are you literally the only person who sees this differently? Ever think you might be retarded?
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>>143647025
he was LITERALLY on par with ssj2 goku....

are you seriously doubting that ssb goku would curbstomp black?
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>>143640784
I think the bigger problem here is Trunks.
>OH NO MY TIME MACHINE THAT I USED TO GO BACK IN TIME HERE IS RIGHT THERE! YOU SEE THAT BLACK? IT'S RIGHT OVER THERE
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>>143642048
How are you people still watching this shit? It looks fuck awful. The coloring is oversaturated garbage, the animation (when they bother at all) is C tier at best, and the penning on every single fucking frame looks like something that would disqualify an intern to work at a studio let alone hire and publish.
As if that weren't bad enough the "story" and writing are also trash. This is the worst cash in I may have ever seen.
I just do not get it, why are all of you watching this shit?
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what if goku fuses with black? whats the result?
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>>143644581
>So he went SSJ2 (and maybe used less Ki too, because OP base form) to mimic Black power level.
Thanks
I thought the only issues with SSJ2 and SSJ3 was the energy leak, not that they were weaker forms now?
Do those forms not get a boost from god ki? Last I remember, regular SSJ did.
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>>143646886
>people still don't understand Goku's character after hundreds of episodes

He wants good fights. Not to one-shot opponents. That's always been his driving motivation.
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>>143647089
>>143647173
Are you retards even watching DBS?
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>>143647216
I understand his character, but it's not rational at all lol

>big bad villain appear
>goku """fights""" him
>lets him get away
>villain returns even stronger than goku, and NOW it's a problem
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>>143647215
God Ki is a way of controlling Ki. If you don't control it that way its normal Ki. That is what he does.
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>>143646331
Uh Bulma already shot goku with Makarov, which has equivalent ballistics as mp5 and it didn't do shit to Goku
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If only Trunks mastered Super saiyan 3 i think that would be enough to beat black.
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I just want Garlic Jr. back without the cop out. He's literally immortal, nothing can kill him.
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>>143647305
He said maybe, and he was shocked when Vegeta said Goku wasn't even close to using his full power
Trunks doesn't know shit
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>>143647359
well I guess he didn't let his guard down back then
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>>143647418
I guess Frieza didnt let his guard down while he was dying and split into 10 pieces on Namek when it exploded either.
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>>143647334
I see, so as ki becomes harder to control is SSJ2 and SSJ3, that's just normal ki, whereas in base form and SSJ he can control it, and thus use god ki, am I correct?

I guess the new power ups will come from Goku and Vegeta getting better at controlling ki and being able to go SSJ2 and SSJ3.
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>>143647500
>being this retarded
wew
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>>143647585
Yes, the story is retarded.
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Why didn't Goku just ask King Kai or Supreme Kai for their time rings?
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>>143645692

King Piccolo was a being of pure evil.
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>>143647610
I was talking about you mate. You're retarded..
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>>143647619
Not all kais have time rings.
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>>143647757
What are you talking about, Beerus said Kais have rings.
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>>143647689
Why? Because I figured out Frieza didnt let his guard down?
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>>143647305
>implying trunks knows how powerful goku really is
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>>143647527
Don't remember where it talks about but God Ki is known for being a calm Ki.
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>>143646187
Black is part of a different time line, stole goku's body, traveled into the future, and proceeded to fuck everything that f trunks loves.
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>>143636040
he spent 20 years studying goku and friends
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Future Mai is Towa and Black Goku is Mira.

>Mai didn't get blown into dust like Bulma did from Black Goku's attack
>Gets up whenever everyone follows Black Goku to the future.

Mai was pretending to be dead all along.
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>>143647403
>>143647876
Even Goku knew he was holding back, Black didn't even care when he saw Beerus unlike Golden Frieza who is stronger than SSB Goku pre RoToS. Give it up faggots.
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>>143646094
And Whis is gay as fuck.
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>>143648133
Toriyama/toei are not that clever. Also loli Mai having the hots for mini&futureTrunks says the opposite
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>>143648236
Maybe Black doesn't know who Beerus and Whis are? Not being afraid of either of them would be suicidally stupid.
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>>143648785
He literally thought Beerus' name upon seeing him.
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>>143648785
Confirmed for not watching the episode.
Black called him "The God of Destruction Beerus"
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>>143648890
Then he must be pretty retarded.
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>>143649087
The only retards here are you and that other anon who agreed with you.
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>>143649262
No idea what you're talking about, no one agreed with me on anything, just came into the thread.

And for black to not be scared of Beerus and Whis does in fact make him a retard so far.
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>>143649371
>just came into the thread.
Sure retard.

I accept your concession.
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post pure mai
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It's a shame that the animation wasn't full bad for such a shit episode.

>Goku completely forgets the lesson he learned in RoF, resulting in his friend's only way back to the future being cut off.
>Black is completely ignorant of the powers of his own ring.
>Black is also currently weak enough that SSB would vaporize him.
>When the time machine was destroyed, people completely fucking forgot that Dragonballs exist.

The "don't give up" between Vegeta and Trunks was nice, but the rest was just shockingly retarded.
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>>143649624
That's redundant, there's no nonpure Mai.
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>>143649514
>concession

From what? I have no idea what pure talking bout about.

DBZposters sure are delusional.
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>>143649660
The fact that DBS creators remembered Cell's time machine. Who would have thought that they had this knowledge considering all this shit they kept throwing at us in previous arcs that shat all over previous series.
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>>143633019

> which is supposed to be canon.

No it isn't.
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>>143650140

Yes, that's true. I was a bit impressed they pulled that out, but they lose the credit for me by forgetting that Dragonballs exist.
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>>143643093
He came up with the basic story, he didn't flat out write it. Stop trying to make Cell-X canon fuckwit.
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>>143650291
How many times have they even used Dragonballs during Super?
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>>143645777
But DB earth already have dinosaurs in it.
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>>143650357
To ask Shenron to bring them the Super Saiyan God, to resurrect Frieza, and to resurrect Piccolo. Also Super Shenron.
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>>143650335
HAHAHAHAHAH
What the fuck is this.
OW THE EDGY.
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>>143650426
Dragon Ball online.

> I..It's canon!!
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>>143650400
They also summoned him to find Super Balls, and Beerus wished for him to leave when he was useless
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