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Otoyomegatari

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>You will never be a muslim in 18th century Central Asia

Why does it hurt so badly?
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>>143489553
Mongolians weren't usually muslim. Most, at that point in time, they were Tibetian Buddhists. Even now there are very few in the population that are Muslim.

On another note, Amir is waifu material.
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>>143490305
These characters are Tajik, they're predominately Muslim
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>muslim
are you just gonna forget tengrism and zoroastrianism?
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>>143489553
19th century anon, 19th. Get ready to embrace your inner slav.
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>>143489553
>You will never be a muslim
Thank fucking god.
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>>143490305
they aren't Mongolian you fucking dip.
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>>143490434
Tajik islam is probably distinct from standard sunni islam, iranian/sufi influence most likely.
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>>143490434
tajiks are not turks, they are iranians.
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>>143489553
Islam would be so much more fun if it was about young boys marrying older women. /ss/ everyday.
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>>143489553
Is this a comfy manga with a happy story?
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>>143490580
Muh negroman
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>>143491144
Same fucking brown bastard
Who give a fuck
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>>143491196
it's like the comfiest manga of all time.
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>you will never fuck Amira in front of Karluk and make him a cuck
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How does Mori-Sensei do it? Literally every woman in the series is perfect.
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...brehs
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>>143491295
YKK would like to have a word with you.
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>>143489553
>you will never be a muslim
GOOD
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>>143491649
>Post-apocolyptic android shit versus pastoral muslim shit

bot suck
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>>143491568
Karluk is in for one hell of a night when he finally consumates their marriage.
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>>143491295
Yeah, it's extremely comfy.
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>>143489553
Because you aren't going to be Prussian and get hype for the Frederick the Great ride.
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>>143491568
T H I C K
H C
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H C
T H I C K
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is this after owari
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>>143493389
that is a fucking skeleton
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>>143493418
you just like fatass don't you
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>>143493473
I like muscle girls. I don't need to like chubby girls to see that is not thicc.
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>>143489553
>You will never be a muslim
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>>143489553
>You will never be a German in 18th century Prussia
Hold me, lads
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>>143493499
That's not a fucking skeleton either.
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>>143493592
Closer to that than thicc
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>>143493499
>thicc

Do you have dysgraphia?
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>>143493418
Seems nice and healthy to me.
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>>143493506
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>>143493592
She isn't THICC, but she certainly isn't a skeleton either. She is the perfect definition of health.
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>>143493634
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>>143490985
They are Sunni
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>>143493418
t. african
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>>143490434
> According to a 2009 U.S. State Department release, the population of Tajikistan is 98% Muslim, (approximately 95% Sunni and 3% Shia)
Why are you so butthurt towards islam that you need to flimsily justify reading cartoons with muslim characters.

>b-but they are a different kind of islam so it's alright guys, r-right?
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>>143493799
So where are the homosexuals in Otoyomegatari?
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>>143493885
In Afghanistan
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>>143493799
>Various scholars have recorded the Zoroastrian, Buddhist, and Aryan pre-Islamic heritage of the Tajik people. Early temples for fire worship have been found in Balkh and Bactria and excavations in present-day Tajikistan and Uzbekistan show remnants of Zoroastrian fire temples.
Fucking muzzies, why must they ruin everything?
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>>143493936
That's how religion is, rome and by extention europe was also ruined after embracing (((Christianity)))

>that feel no worshipping Mars to help you secure victory against the barbarian hordes of the east
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>>143493997
>worshipping Mars
Get out loser, that pantheon is old and busted
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>>143494038
The undefeatable sun not so undefeatable after being molested by the Visigoths
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>>143494106
Out. OUT!!!
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>>143491764
>tfw no older qt wife for crazy /ss/ marital sex
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>>143490833
They are not Mongolian but anon could be forgiven for thinking so since the plot so far has basically been a rip off of the life story of Mandukhai Khatun and her husband Dayan Khan who Mandukhai adopted at age 7 when she was 19 and then married 12 years later after he became the Great Khan.
Why the author felt the need to move the story 500 years in time and 2000 miles west I have no idea. The real story is fascinating enough.
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>>143496107
Did it have a happy ending?
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>>143495405
>arranged marriage between a young boy and a beautiful teenage girl
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>>143490305
>Mongolians weren't usually muslim.
True, and neither were the Eskimos, nor the Australians.
I fail to see what any of those three have to do with Otoyomegatari though.
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>>143496107
>They are not Mongolian but anon could be forgiven for thinking so
Only if he is American and therefore has a clinical lack of whichever hormone is responsible for realizing there is more than three stereotypical cultures in the world at any given time.
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>>143496227
Yes, very. Dayan Khan was the last surviving male heir in direct line from Chengis Khan. Mandukhai, saved him, raised him, trained him to be a warrior, helped him form a coalition that elected him great khan, then had 9 children with him.
Mandukhai was herself descended from Chengis Khan, she was a third or fourth cousin to Dayan Khan..
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>>143496385
And you don't know enough history to recognize the story is a copy.
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>When you're supposed to be a good muslim but tengri makes them dancing boiis so pretty

central asian problems yo
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>>143491568
>>143493715
There's no way the marriage was not consumed. How can a 12 years old boy's cock resist the presence of such a semen demon ?
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I will bump this thread with Prokudin-Gorsky 1911 colour footage.
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>>143496411
>9 children
>from age 31

Goddamn. Fair play to her. She must have been beautiful.
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>>143496836
It hasnt. Not yet. She is eager though and they slept nude together.
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>>143497173
man if i was him i would hit that all day long
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>>143497257
Probably late bloomer. There was even a small comic where she is playing with his hair while he is sleeping with a caption she wished he would grow up faster. He is in for some wild nights.
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>>143497039 >>143497123 >>143497373 >>143497412 >>143497457
Nobody expect the early 20th century could be this colorful.
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>>143497173
>slept nude together

When was that already ?
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>>143497491
lurk Prokudin-Gorsky. He made many color photos of Russian Empire.
Pic. Group of Russian kids near Belozersk.
>mfw most of then will probably get starved in revolution and Stalin's purge
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>>143489553
That's 19th century Central Asia

>>143496385
>europoors
>knowing anything
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>>143497582
As far as I posted kids, try to guess the ethnicity of those children.
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>>143497582
I know, dude make RGB photo and die before he could see those photos in color.
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>>143497643
Protip: they are neither uzbek or any other turks, nor tajiks.
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>>143497467
Here's that panel you mentioned. Looks like she's waiting for him to mature a little.
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>>143497665
>die before he could see those photos in color
not true. I heard somewhere that he managed to show them to the last russian emperor
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any real mohammads that actually faps to this?
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>>143497772
A muslim reporting in, sometimes I do when looking at those lines and pattern, too bad the recent scans are mostly low-res.
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>>143497863
>fapping to pictures
isn't it supposed to be haram?
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>>143497716
>such a beautiful, intricate pattern
>smashed all to shit around the corners
Physically painful to look at. Tell me where this picture was taken, I'll go get tiles and mortar.
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>>143497940
No no, it's only a picture if it depicts a person or object. Geometric patterns are halal.
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>>143489553
If I could get a cute wife that will love me just by turning muslim, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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>>143497940
Is that supposed to stop us?
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>>143497981
>you will never be a rich muslim that has a waifu that entices other women to join your harem
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should i post more photos?
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>>143491144
Some Iranian girls can be qt as fuck. Shame what Islam and foreign meddling did to their country.
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whatever...
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>>143496836

consummated, not consumed.
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>>143498227
Blame the Saudi brand of puritanical Islam.
Those two-faced fuckers are more than happy to use their money and global influence to fuck over everyone else. Oh, what's that, you're an Ahmadi? You want to spread peace and tolerance? Fuck you heretic, infidel, you die.
Fucking wahabis.
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>>143493997
Rome was able to survive another 1000 years because of Christianity

And Roman religion is not as popular as you think it was during those times

Literally folktales tier
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Well, that all I've got on today.
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Only anime and manga can make Muslims desirable.
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>>143491262
Iranians are Indo-European
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>>143497539
Chapter 3
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>>143498891
Thanks for the dump, these pictures are really interesting.
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>>143497673
Jews or Armenians?
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>>143498722
Rome survived another thousand years because of its Army and in spite of Christianity.
From the time of Augustus Rome was a army with a country attached.
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>>143499001
HARAM
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>>143499162
>jews
This. Originally that photo calls "A group of jewish boys with teacher".
OK, and here is one more photo. Just look at these colors, how impressive they are.
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>>143499001
This.

Another good example is Magi. It made want to live in that One Thousand and One Nights setting it had going on. Well at least until all that futuristic shit happened after the timeskip.
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>>143499403
Isn't that because he shot using glass film which is more durable than celluloid film?
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>>143499514
Yea, I heard about this, and instead one glass, he used 3 glasses with various colors. (red, yellow, blue, it seems)
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>>143497467
eh, i started when i was like 10. he propably gay. theres no way he doesnt have a huge erection 247. i wish they would fuck already
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>>143496107
>the story is literally a rip off despite having no geographic, time or character ressemblance except for the different in age

I don't think you know what a rip off is
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>>143500242
You can't compare your degenerate upbringin with his. Pretty sure he has never masturbated.
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>>143500450
i was pure but i was really cute so i had lots of girlfriends. became ugly later on though ;_;
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>>143500527
>became ugly later on though

Acne ?
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>>143500593
yes. it killed my self esteem.
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dat milf chapter though
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>>143500527
>i had lots of girlfriends
Degenerate.
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>>143500242
People hit puberty later back then, for starters, thanks to differences diet and some microevolutionary changes in the meantime. He's still probably five years off from his voice cracking.
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>>143500668
Same. I got rid of it now and is quite good looking but it still fucked me up
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>>143500801
That didn't prevent males to see their first battle at 12-13 during the middle ages
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>>143500713
>he didnt kiss cute girls when he was little
missing out desu>>143500801
i guess thats true. still, i wanna see more of them in general. i dont want to see yuri and twice shy couple
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>>143497039
>you will never dress like that
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>>143490305
>wearing headscarves
>they're not muslims u gaiz

Man, the denial is strong.
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>>143501827
You know christian women used to wear headscarves too right ? Nuns still do
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>>143498447
>Iran
>Saudi brand

Wat.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/01/saudi-arabia-severs-diplomatic-relations-iran-160103202137679.html
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>>143501884
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>>143501987
>only 80%
They're the 20%, it's simple.
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>>143502055
Well, whatever floats your boat.
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>>143501884
>>143490305
>Anons trying to deny some dictional charachter's faith
>This happens :
>>143501987

I usualy don't care about that shit, but having someone BTFO so hard is allways a nice thing to see.
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>>143501987
I was no implying they were christians nor denying they're probably muslims, but your argument about headscarves was not a good one
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WHERES THE NEW CHAPTER!
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>>143497863
How do you feel about intricate tiles? Do you have an entire folder of patterned backsplashes?
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>>143502499
I remember that guy.
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God I hate that pussy! He doesn't deserve her.

Animu fucking when? Emma was great, I want to experience something beautiful in motion and sound again!
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>>143503059
>pariya struggling to handle her shit
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>>143503059
I feel like it'd be too boring to be an anime. Even then, I'd be bracing for disappointment since the mangaka has such a hard on for the intricate cloth designs. I feel like it'd be way too hard to animate that.
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>>143503059
>God I hate that pussy! He doesn't deserve her

I like Smith, but I agree with this. If he had any sort of backbone, he could have taken her away from her shitty life. But he pussied out.
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>>143503566
>But he pussied out
I give him some leeway on this. He is a stranger in a strange land and right now he's already marked for death just by being British. He is very cowardly but at least he's understandable in it.
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>>143503644
This. Also the difference in culture is huge.
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>>143499001
Or stop taking the /pol/ cock and have your own opinion.
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>>143503881
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
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>>143498227
Mostly the latter.
Shit was so fucked up after the US and britain killed off their democracy for cheap oil that people rather put their lot in with radical preachers than suffer the shah any longer.
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>>143503881
>your own opinion
Look at the facts, anon.
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>>143503973
Blame all those on resource hungry globalists.

Stuff like that didn't happen in Brunei, Morocco, Tajikistan, Qatar etc etc
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>>143503644

>marked for death just by being British

Everyone should be marked for death for being British tbqh famaladindong.
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>>143504070
Sure thing Ahmed.
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>>143503973
>muslims today are exactly like the muslims back then

If that was the case we wouldn't deal with so much shit now
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>>143504197
>muslims today are exactly like the muslims back then
>If that was the case we wouldn't deal with so much shit now

Mfw this shit.
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>>143503566
At least Smith has a friend in based Ali now. Dude is pretty cool. Also I wonder if Mori will revisit Smith's romance with that girl. Every other tale ended with a pretty happy ending. But Smith's tale ended with a pretty downer ending, seeing this >>143503566 makes me feel for her even more.
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>>143504849
Since they lost all of their provisions they will probably go back in their tracks, meaning he will maybe see her again
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>>143504920
let's hope so
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>>143497150
Bomb's at B, rush through straight
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I love middle eastern architecture, it seems so relaxed and dreamy.
If only i could remove all the kebab that infest it.
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>>143499465
>Well at least until all that futuristic shit happened after the timeskip

I feel the same way. I miss the whole Arabian Nights feel that it used to give off. I'm not really interested in whats going on anymore. It also doesn't help that every Magi thread turns into shitfest between shippers, so it's impossible to have a decent discussion without the thread turning into tumblr.
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>>143505749
Well we tried, but artillery shells remove more than just the people

The middle east has had a pretty rough history. Also the longest history, the reason it's desert now is because it was overfarmed like 4000 years ago
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>>143499132

Dat body, unf
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>>143493763
They are Sunni + their tribal belief.
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>>143489553
>You will never be a muslim
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>you will never be tenderly held by your older wife

Seriously what's the fucking point of living, just kill me now.
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>>143508908
Amir is too perfect. Hands down one of the best waifus ever to exist. I hope we get another chapter focused on them again.
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>>143505845
I dropped it somewhere around after the hogwarts arc. After that it seemed more like a generic fighting shounen than the unique atmosphere it had before. I've started to read Sinbad's spinoff but it just isn't the same.
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I want to marry Pariya!
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>>143493799
Found the SJW terrorist sympathiser
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>>143509034

Who is Amir?
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>>143496234
She's 20 so jut barely not a teen.
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>>143509702
The name of the main girl. Although sometimes they say Amira. I'm not sure which one is correct.
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>>143508908
Amir is top tier waifu next to Gally.
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>>143497061
At that point he could've been fucking her just to have more heirs, that was really important to people of powerful families. I remember reading about an Ottoman sultan who was deeply in love with one specific concubine and wanted no other woman until his mom begged him to fuck other women and bought him two more concubines so he could produce more heirs.
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>>143499403
Pretty neat sword but how come this guy never took any photos of cute Uzbek or Kazakh girls?
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>ywn be a central asian nomad riding across the steppes with your older doting wife
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>>143509954
this manga wants me to get married doesnt it
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I'm reading the manga and buying the volumes. It'd kinda be interesting if the MC met a couple that was the opposite.

A grown man with an underage girl. But I don't think the mangaka has the balls to cover that/the editors wouldn't allow it cause of possible back lash. Especially if the guy wanted to consummate. I mean stuff like that did happen, itd be intersting to see a comfy story about that though.
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>>143508908
>>143509034
Amira and Karluk are probably my favorite fictional couple. They're adorable it warms my heart.
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>>143510568
Oh my heart.
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NTR arc when?
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>>143489553
>You will never be a muslim
>implying
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>>143493418
AMERIKA, FUCK YEAH!
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>>143510264
Oy vey, japmen. Marry and reproduce.
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>been reading up on temujit
>he lambasted the turks of the western steppe >killed every single potential ruling person
>took every potential princess for himsel
DAMN YOU MONGORIANS
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Real Life Pariya
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>>143489553
>I will never be a 18th century roach
thank god.
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>>143489553
Why would I want to be a terrorist?
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>>143499132
catch cold from wearing clothes? what?
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>>143493715
>>143493389
>>143493418
>>143493473
>>143493499
>>143493586

If we're talking about thick than Shirin is where its at.
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>>143504197
>If that was the case we wouldn't deal with so much shit now
its in their blood
2/10 u got a (you)
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Amira could have looked a fair bit like this

Pic related is a kazakh girl.
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>>143515166
You're only making my longing for a qt Kazakh girl even stronger.
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>>143515277
What surprises me most is when I typed in Kazakh girl into google, a lot of them look like a mix of Mongolian and Chinese than arabic. A surprise but fitting too considering some of the character designs for the women.
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>>143515166
Bumping with more Kazakh women.
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>>143513758
I AM IN LOVE
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>>143515326
Who the fuck said they're Arabic?
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>>143515596
Isn't the setting mostly based around the middle east/central asia?

>>143501987
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>>143516602
>they see your dick
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>>143510443
I agree, I'd love to see Mori tackle a couple like that because she's so good at working with traditional marriage in a way that deals with it on its own terms instead of incessantly trying to subvert tradition the way many creators love to do.

I guess that sort of thing might be taboo even in Japan.
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>>143517325
Taboo or not, it takes a skilled author to pull something like that. It has been seen for quite a while for a much older man with a relationship with a much younger girl as being somewhat more aggressive. There can be and was in many cases love but the balance of expectations to fantasy is tough. While it wasn't unusual to see it at all in much earlier times, I can't see the relationships being quite as cozy as Amira's situation. In contrast an older woman with a young boy is seen as more nurturing and loving if not that we really feel envious towards the guy, even today. One good example is Tommen and Margaery in Game of Thrones when she snuck into his room and seduced him. Flip that around and that would get creepy.

It could work but again, would be a hard one to tackle.
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>>143518308
Historically speaking though older men with younger women, in some cases young girls, is not that uncommon. Otoyomegatari can deal with some interesting relationships because of its historical setting and Mori's commitment to it so if there's anyone who could portray an older man with a much younger girl I think it would be Mori or someone with similar sensibilities.

Btw Leon the Professional teased a sexual undertone to the relationship between Portman and Reneau's characters and a deleted scene implied it even more. Admittedly it was removed because a test audience found it weird but that's a fairly big budget film so I don't see why a mangaka couldn't at least attempt to pull it off.
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OK, here I am again.
Did somebody asked QT's?
Turkmenistan, 1911
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OK, there is only black-white version.
Two jewish girls
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And the author of these gorgeous photos, S.M. Prokudin-Gorsky.
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>>143521304
Kind of looks like an older version of Smith from that picture. I wonder if he will eventually play a similar role in the manga?
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Yes, I forget to mention that most of these photo were made in Uzbekistan, and only three of them (near and inside yurt) in Turkmenia.
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Well, if I'm not mistaken, the manga took place in mid 19th century, as soon as these footage 60-70 years later. I don't think that camera at 1850s were able to took good quality photos (I know that at there were already some experiment with taking color photo in 1850s).
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>>143514270
moisture collects into the fabrics and let the cold pass right through
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do I need to watch katanagatari first?
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>>143522036
No start with Bake.
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>>143489553
>18th century
is it ever established what time frame this takes place?
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>>143522596
It's in the 19th century actually. The russian colonization is going on so it must be around the 50s or so
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Threadly reminder Russia will kill anyone who resists their invasion of Turkestan within all of these characters lifetime.
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>>143503566
>>143504849
>implying the local community would accept a marriage with an infidel
>implying they wouldn't honor kill her
At least the turkic peoples were traditionally quick about their executions.
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>>143523157
Well they live in rather isolated and dispersed communities where most families are fairly independent so I don't think it would that big of a deal.
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>>143523202
Rural communities are typically more traditional than urban centers, not the other way around.
It wouldn't be tolerated.
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>>143523256
A lot of those are color pictures of Imperial Russia's Turkestan, just a generation or so after when this manga takes place c1900
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>>143493997
>tfw muslims are just the new christians
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>>143523157
Well at this point if he does end up going back for her, I doubt he's going to settle down there. Especially now that her uncle or whoever that guy was is around. If it happens, he'll probably end up taking her with him.
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>>143523440
>Abrahamic religion are all same.
And water is wet.
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>>143523355
There's so many things wrong with this, I don't even know where to start. You found /a/ a few days ago, r-right?
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>>143523583
I enjoy the irony when someone makes an ass of themselves calling me wrong.
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>>143523583
>Not enjoying a little history with your manga
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>>143523256
>>143523583
>D-d-do I fit in yet?
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>>143497039
Fun fact: this dude was the last legitimate descendant of Genghis Khan to hold a royal title
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>>143523994
I've never fit in anywhere..
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>>143523256
Thanks for indexing all the pictures for easy access, fampai.
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>>143489553
>ever wanting to be a muslim

Gross.
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>>143489553
>You will never be a christian in Dark ages
Thanks god
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>>143490434
>Tajik
No they aren't..
Amir is Kazakh, and Karluk is Azerbaijani.
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>>143515685
Central Asia is Asia, breh. As in surrounded by a shitload of countries. Arabic peoples barely penetrated through Iran. The Persians actually prevented them from getting through to Central Asia. Just look at the presidents of the Central Asian countries. They don't look Caucasian or Middle Eastern.
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>>143530764
Are you sure? That's a long ways away from each other.
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Yeah there is an unusually high amount of legit CULTURE in this thread... nice,
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>>143532952

Otoyomegatari threads are easily among the most comfiest on /a/.
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>>143509954
Amir is a man's name. So the correct one would be Amira
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>>143497039
I'd follow that guy into battle without a word spoken.
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>>143497973
Your telling me Tilelover could convert to muslim?
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>>143530764
Nah, Karluk a Turkmeni

Ali, Smith's guide is an Azeri; he said he's from Tabriz
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>>143532952
It is nice. I came here from /qa/ expecting a shitshow and find myself in a comfy slideshow of early 20th century Turkmenistan.

Keep it up /a/.
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>>143534859
Just an interesting fact: in Russian Empire azeris were called Baku Tartar
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>>143499403
Looks baller as fuck.
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>>143518308
>ill make it legal image
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>>143489553
Is the author of this married herself? I mean judging by her age she has to be but it's Japan we are talking about.
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>>143535467
I think she's still a Christmas Cake.
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>>143535522
Well that's what i was thinking about. She probably has know idea what's real marriage all about so she writes these fantasies for herself.
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>>143535585
>She probably has know idea what's real marriage all about so she writes these fantasies for herself
You're joking, right?
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>>143536207
Why? If she's single she doesn't have any first hand experience.
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>>143530764
Actually according to Mori(>>143502055) Karluk's town is populated by Uzbeks and Uyghurs.
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>>143533925
Its nice that my favorite manga has the best threads on /a/ Sometimes we get comfy discussions and sometimes we get some good history discussion. One of these threads produced some good book recommendations that I can hopefully get around to reading someday when I chew through the ones I've already checked out from the library.
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>>143535585
Its not like the romances she writes have any relation to modern marriage in Japan. Emma is about a maid in Emma and Otoyomegatari are set in the 19th century in Victorian London and Central Asia respectively. Both settings have vast differences with marriage in the modern world generally and marriage in modern Japan specifically.

The mangaka who insist on having self insert beta-kun as their main character seem more influenced by ignorance of romance, either on the part of the author or the audience or both.
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>>143538026
>The mangaka who insist on having self insert beta-kun as their main character seem more influenced by ignorance of romance

This. And that's much worse
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>>143515326
>>143515596
>>143515685
>>143532446

He must've assumed the Arabs had some sort of presence because of the spread of Islam to the region but that's a mistake. The Arabs were able to penetrate and conquer the Levant and the Maghreb and spread Islam with them but in Central Asia Islam spread more so through conversion, not conquest, via the Sufis. This is why central Asia has a much, much weaker tradition of Sharia and why they retain many of their own traditions; The Sufis were the exact opposite of the strict Sharia jurists and were not at all antagonistic towards local traditions and in fact assimilated them within an Islamic framework which made them effective at converting the peoples of Southeast and Central Asia who were beyond the reach of the Islamic empires.

When conquest did play a role it was in the opposite direction; the Central Asian steppe nomads fucking the Arab and greater Muslim world thoroughly through the Mongol conquests which eventually lead to many of them converting to religion of the conquered.
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>>143538892
>in Central Asia Islam spread more so through conversion
>not conquest
Who are the Mughals
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>>143538925
I could've worded that better. Islamic empires did reach both Central and deep into South Asia so you've got a point but Islam spread even further beyond their reach through the Sufis. A lot of the peoples of those lands were hard to convert because they were nomadic and independent making them harder to influence through a state apparatus where as the Sufis, with their emphasis on spiritual practices and their openness to local tradition, were more effective at converting those peoples.

Not to mention many were still outside the reach of these empires. Mughals didn't go far past modern day Afghanistan so this manga takes place a bit north of the northernmost parts of the Mughal Empire at its height. So the peoples of this manga, with the possible exception of the Tajik twins, don't live in lands that were part of the Muhgal Empire.
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>>143501987
I haven't read that manga, but I'd pound the hell out of Taras and Karluk. Maybe the twins, too.
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>>143491568
Maid-chan is cute, I wish she got a happy end.
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>>143539300
Whatever happened to her?
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>>143539360
gets*

I'm ESL, sorry for scaring you like that.
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>>143539476
Oh I see. I don't really remember her much but its been a while since I've read the early chapters, does she come up often?

I also noticed that she seems to be the only woman who wears a traditional hijab among the women in Karluk's village if that page is any indication.
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>>143539130
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_conquest_of_Siberia

I'm sure this added another dimension to the exact nature of the events. Namely Kuchum Khan's conversion spree.

Although it might not be geographically close enough to be relevant.
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>>143509954
>dat second to last panel
Just imagine Amira riding you in the middle of night looking like that, hair down
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>>143539762
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>>143539762
Oh god, my fucking heart.

I'll truly be a happy man.
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>>143539549
It doesn't seem to align with the setting of the manga but to be fair it s a Muslim empire of the Steppe. Wiki says its the northernmost Muslim state in recorded history, how neat. Obviously I was wrong in saying Muslim empires did not reach deep into the Steppe because that is pretty fucking deep. I still think some of my points stand though. Imposing religion on nomadic and independent peoples is a lot harder than imposing it on settled peoples who are more integrated.

The Muslim conquerors of the Levant and Maghreb didn't even force too many people to convert so that they could collect the Jizyah(a tax on non-Muslim monotheists which was basically most of the people under Muslim rule back then) and many people who did convert to Islam under their rule probably did so to raise their status and to break into the bureaucracy and imperial structure which shut out most non-Muslims.

Its pretty clear the imperial Islamic presence is much deeper and rooted in the Middle East than in the Central Asian Steppe but I probably down played the role of empire in the spread of Islam in the Steppe. In my defense I did mention the conversion of the Mongols as part of the spread of Islam though.
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>>143539762
>You will never fuck Amira after a night of music and dance

Why even go on?
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>>143538925
Mughals were Indians not Central Asians
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>>143540238
>her hand will never slip into your pants as she smiles as you struggling to finish your music
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While the author has kept things to just nudity, I hope if or when Amira and Karluk finally make love there is a small build up or aftermath showing then together in an intimate way.
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>>143540321
Mughal emperors were direct descendants of both Genghis Khan and Timur, you can't get more Central Asian than that.
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>>143540962
WHY HAVEN'T THEY FUCKED YET
I WAS PROMISED /SS/
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>>143497705
>>143541442
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>>143540321
They were basically an offshoot of the Mongol Empire who ruled over Indians. Northwest India has a long history of being conquered by various peoples, the ruling class has ranged from Greco-Buddhist descendants of Alexander the Great's veterans who brought Buddhism to China via the Silk Road, to steppe nomads like the Kushans and Sakans, and Iranic peoples like the zoroastrian Indo-Parthians. Mughals were persianized, muslim Turco-Mongols, and Babur, their first emperor, was a descendant of Tamerlane, the second greatest Mongol warlord.
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>>143542225
>Tamerlane, the second greatest Mongol warlord.
Whose the first? Let me guess, Kublai Khan? Or Hulagu? Gimme a hint here.
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>>143542457
Kublai's like the most overrated Mongol ever. This is the dude who got his ass kicked a combined six times by the Vietnamese, the Javanese, the Japanese and a handful of kami. Even the fucking Manchu could conquer China.
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>>143539762
>that feel sandnigger and can marry 3DPD Amira
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>>143540962
I'm going to feel real cheated if these two don't have sex eventually. Heck I want the series to end with Karluk and Amira having at least two children.
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>>143544321
>"Progress enough for one day"

GODDAMIT MORI
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>>143544321
>two children

This isn't the 21th century. Eight is an absolute minimum, they have to make sure the genes are transmitted
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Exactly when in the 19th century does this take place? Anyone know? I'd like to figure out what kind of rifle Amira would like as a gift, but I need to know if its in the flintlock, caplock, or metallic cartridge eras.
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>>143544795
Just look for the battle chapters, they have russian rifles and iirc it was more of caplocks
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>>143544795
If my memory serves me correctly,
The first time the Hargals went to Karluk's village (and got ambushed), one of the villager shoots a bolt action repeatedly to the air until an elder stopped him, saying its a waste of bullets.
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>>143545053
Oh yeah you're right, it's actually pretty high century then
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>>143498891
I'm late but those photos were really interesting to look at. Thanks, anon.
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Thanks for the comfy thread anons. Helped me calm down after watching the clusterfuck that was the Berserk "anime".
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>>143498722
>Rome was able to survive another 1000 years because of Christianity
>this is what christfags believe
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>>143544795
I believe its around 1860-1870 or so
>>143545053
I don't know if Mori actually that attentive about historical small arms. There are always the possibility of her just using whatever weapons that suits the setting. Remember the WW1-ish biplane toy played by a boy at the early chapters of Emma?
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>That feel when you'll be moving soon and won't see nearly as many Jordanian- and Iranian-American girls in your area anymore

It is really hard to stay on the 3DPD road when there's all these nice, cute, ambitious girls around you. M-maybe it's for the best.
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>>143545299
how bad was it?
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>>143523256
Muslim invading your country. Next step is >>>/h/4313073
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>>143490305
Heard of Tengrism you dumb american piece of shit?
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>>143546526
Just go through the multiple Berserk threads on here right now. It wasn't even bad in a good and entertaining way. It was just straight up BAD.
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>A thread that's actually discussing stuff instead of trolling or circlejerking

This is nice
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>>143546670
No, rather >>>/e/1932084
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>>143544795
Pretty sure its late 19th century.
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>>143546828
guess ill watch it then, if only to see loli witch
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>>143544648
>Eight is an absolute minimum, they have to make sure the genes are transmitted
Seems a bit much, besides by the time Karluk is ready Amira would be getting up there in age. I bet they're have around five kids.
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>>143547834
5 kids is nothing. theyll have 12 kids at minimum
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>>143539300
>>143539541
That's Karluk's older sister Seleke, not a maid.
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>>143489553
>you will never have a QT loyal waifu who hunts and cooks you dinner and /ss/ with you
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>>143545492
That would be a great time. Buy that girl a Winchester M1866 Turkish pattern cavalry carbine. She will love it.
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>>143547834
How did women get through so many births without dying? I thought the mortality rate back then was pretty high.
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>>143550494

It was compared to today, but rural farmers and nomads actually had lower maternal death/infant death rates as they lived outside population centres that bred disease.
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>>143550494
~5% per pregnancy in 19th century Britain (1 in 20 chance of dying)
Infant mortality was about 20%-33% before the child turned 5
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>>143546939
See >>143533925
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>>143498722
reminder that rome only got sacked by the visigoths after they abandoned their GOAT pantheon and stuck to christianity.
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Late to that thread. Where the fuck did they get all of those blue tiles from? Was that the easiest color to make?
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Bumping with Kazakh girls.
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So why did Amira panic so much when Karluk got sick? Think she was married before or just her being overprotective?
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>>143552729
I think it was mentioned that her mother died of sickness. Also considering the time of this story, period things we see today as mild discomforts were deadly back then.
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>>143552058
At least bump with cute kazakh girls
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>>143489553
>Muslim
>showed her face in public and not getting skinned alive, stoned, and set on fire
You clearly don't live in a place where there are any muslims.
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>>143551903
lapis-lazuly?
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>>143553057
Hard to find cute ones wearing the traditional garb.
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>>143497940
Muzzie here. I fap to this all the time. And cowtits.
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>>143503059
What's going on? What answer?
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>>143553492
Traditional garb truly is the best.
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>>143554872
Yeah it looks pretty comfy. Both male and females. Can't imagine how comfy it would be to snug up together with your lover at night.
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I know the marriage was arranged but its really heart warming how much Amira cares for her husband. And kind of cute how easily she can lift him.
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>>143555870
Arranged marriages were the norm back then, anon. Well, even now they are, in most places. It's interesting how they happen to be the ones that end up with both persons being happier versus a marriage by choice, though.
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>>143555870
But it looks like the tables are starting to turn. The little shota is slowly becoming a man.
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>>143556135
Kind of makes sense. Things done on impulse, especially romance, doesn't end too well. A lot of succesful arranged marriages are done by the parents. Sure among royalty and higher class, its the wealth and status first and foremost but assuming the family is a family (grandparents and all and not just mum and dad) I can see them having a much better judge of character both for a partner and their own child than the child themselves. After all, they were the ones who are still together and made it that far.
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>>143556200
I loved doing this to my mom and dad as a kid. When I tried recently with my dad I almost threw out my back, the man's really put on some weight.
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>>143556200
>>143556431
This is so cute.
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>>143556200
He is pretty strong to be able to do that.
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>>143540371
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>>143550876
>5% per pregnancy
>.95^5 = .77
>23% chance of death before the 6th pregnancy
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>>143540371
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>>143559960

Fuck off.

>>>/pol/
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>>143559424
Those are only averages. I'd bet wealthy women had much lower mortality rates.
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>>143556200
She was really impressed by it
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>>143551263
Reminder that Rome had been sacked LONG before christianity even began
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>>143551263
The Rome the Visigoths sacked was a shadow of it´s former selve. The city hadn´t been the capital of the west for almost a century (most emperors held court in Ravenna.
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>>143555870
>>143556135
>>143556317
I like how Mori deals with arranged marriage on its own terms instead of trying to subvert it as is too common. She's able to show you how a healthy and even atypical marriage can work out with the institution of arranged amrriage
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Damn, I love Otoyomegatari threads. Even got a little history lesson in this thread too. Good shit anons.
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>>143563094
Good manga attracts good posters.
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>>143520501
Its gorsky again?
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>>143563094
She has that look of "OH FUCK I FORGOT THE WEED".
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>>143563094
Her eyes seem rather light there, almost blue.
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>>143560525
I dunno about that from what I've played of CK2
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