Macross Delta

>>143423253
GORIGORI ATTACK

NEVAH BE SATISFIED

Which Walkure would you attack?

>>143423356
I would analyze mikumo

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>>143423356
>picking one

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Man this week has just been great

Mid-season climax, album leak, new episode titles. Next they're probably going to announce some new VF models

>>143423433
i want to cum on Mikumo's vagina bones

MIRAGEFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

Anonymous Sun 26 Jun 2016 22:57:37 No.143336504
＞ファッキングキャットガールが殺された

ファックユーエンディング、ファックユーーー

I wonder if this guy actually posts here.

>>143423381
would you rather deduce her vagina or induce her ass?
For science

>>143423484
Translate it, weebs.

I keep liking Freya less and less the more she is shoved down my throat. Why does she get all the attention and noone else gets any? It's a fucking miracle kanamesa got this much exposure without freyja butting in.

MOU HITORIBOCHI JA NAI

>>143423573
You contradicted yourself in your own post.

Also can you just admit you want Mirage to get more screentime?

Reina DYRL when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnqAvJ4BU2Q

>>143423573
When will you stop shitposting and join us in enjoying the good music Delta bestowed upon us today?

13 episodes in, still no "watashi no kare wa piloto"

>>143423652
in all fairness to nao touyama, her version is solid

>>143423573
Main Heroine status.

>>143423664
13 episodes in and nobody has been seen with a boyfriend.

>>143423573
Control your rune, shitposter

>>143423664
Hopefully we'll never see it. I'm so sick of it already. Same with Do You Remember Love. There are plenty of other good songs from SDF and 7, I would rather see them.

Freyja's DYRL in the auditions was superb though, I would love to see the full song released, but not in the show itself.

>>143423664
>Singing a 60 year old pop song

>>143423664
We'll probably hear it from Freyja's mp3 player somehow. Though what I'd really like to hear is planet dance or dynamite explosion coming from it

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Man, this is the best Macros has been since the good old days of 7.

FLAC when?

Please Miragefags, stop saying Hayate and Freyja take all the spotlights, you guys keep saying this for last 2 threads, yes we get it's not about triangle, you guys just want her shines for once.

The show still have 13 episodes left, there is no way staff will waste her, her moment will eventually happen, don't worry.

>>143423664
None of the pilots is a boyfriend.

>>143423831
Lynn Minmay's songs are held with a sort of quasi-religious reverence in the Macross universe though.

>>143423320
I wanna know what are the effects on a hybrid human/windemerean's lifespan. Or maybe the rune just doesn't give a shit and drains you altogether.

>>143423751
>Same with Do You Remember Love
Ay nigga no. That's too iconic to just pretend "Oh I'm so sick of it"

>>143423751
>Do You Remember Love

There's no escaping that one.

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Freyja and Reina's pose is too lewd.
Also Kaname has the best legs

>>143423863
now all we need is an episode entirely compose of reused animation and we are all set

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>The random audio glitch at the very end of Walkure Attack 05:11

RUINED

How could it leak so early?

>>143423975
Do we know that they're genetically compatible? I mean all Protoculture derived species have similar genetics but the Zolan prove that they can't all interbreed freely. I'd be willing to be the Ragnan's are another one that is incompatible with humans and Zentradi.

A rune seems like an incredibly complex organ, that might preclude general compatibility.

>>143423977
>>143424009
I wish Love Drifts Away became the iconic song of Macross, instead of Kawamori fellating DYRL's Minmay and her song over and over again.

>>143424060
Oh fuck, everything here is making me hard

>>143424086
I don't hear it, are you able to feel the wind?

>>143424133
>instead of Kawamori fellating DYRL's Minmay and her song over and over again.
Maybe it's because it's the song of the franchise in the most iconic entry of the franchise and

>>143424081
Bad animation is basically a hallmark of Macross.

>>143423253
I want to hear Kumokumo sing all of Furefure's songs.

>>143424086
I haven't gotten there yet... I really hope I can't hear it because once I hear it I'll never be able to not hear it again and we're probably not getting a better release for awhile.

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>>143423900
>there is no way staff will waste her

>>143424086
There's nothing there. Check your headphones.

Aside from the ED, what's the best song? Haven't listened yet, but I'm hoping the rest of Unknown Cosmic Movement is as good as the intro.

>>143423526
Be nice you fucking faggot.

>>143424394
AXIA. Ikenai Borderline.

>>143424379
That's the love interest of a side character. There has never been anything to her to waste at all.

>>143424394
Ikenai Borderline, Walkure Attack!, Bokura no Senjou (though I'd rather have the a Freyja version than the whole group from the album)

>>143424379
They wasted her the moment they decided it would be funny if she turned into a loli when she micronized.

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m-muh brother!

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>>143424496
>>143424585

>duet of mikumo and freyja in the last chorus

>>143423607
Simplon

>>143424667
This Pika's my Rune.

>>143423900
Nice falseflaging miragefag but she will never be relevant
deal with it

>>143424667
>still doing the gangsign
sasuga

>>143424379
She is a) a side character and b) I think they did the best with what they needed to, even though I wish some more time was given to her and Michel's relationship

It would have been refreshing if the white knight would have died and someone else picked up his robes. Oh well, not that I'd expect anything but the proven formula from a Macross.

>>143424394
WOW WOW WOWOWOW is the best song desu

>>143424585
>though I'd rather have the a Freyja version

How I feel about half of these songs.

>>143424394
the most hype would be walkure attack!

>>143423607
>Also can you just admit you want Mirage to get more screentime?

It's not just Miragefags complaining about Freyja at this point. It's anyone who wanted the pilots in general to be relevant

>>143424394
Bokuro no Senjou is my favorite.
Moero Moero~

>>143424394
Cosmic Movement is great and it has this cute "1, 2, 3, 4!" part later.

>>143424394
Walkure Attack! obviously.

>>143424901
>pilots
>relevant

Nigga this is an idols series

>>143424883
For me it's mostly Bokura no Senjou because I started really liking the song due to the performance in episode 3.

Then again I wouldn't mind seeing them just blow up the album releases symphogear style and release at least one single with two or three songs done solo per Walkure member.

>>143424667

Idolsluts

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>>143424901
Who cares about them? This show is all about Freyja. Delta pilots were not even in original promo art.

Where's a webm of that macross drop that reminds of the adama maneuver, I need it guys, shit was too hype

>>143424956
No it's an IDOL series. Freyja is the only Walkure who matters.

>>143424956

Idol music CDS and waifu figurines for the moe crowd, model kits for the mecha crowd

Freyja singing Angel Voice with a choir of Mercats when?

Kaname Giraffe Blues single when?

All this falseflagging

>>143424776
How the fuck do you get your hands like that?

>>143424956
>>143425035
If the fights aren't going to matter they may as well not waste screen time on them and just have things settled with sing offs. [spoilers]Hell I'd still watch it.[/spoiler]

>>143425043
>>143425074
Idols sale more stuff
cry some more

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that WO~OWOW

Damn the ED version of this album is great.

I really need to see lyrics for Jiritikku Beginner

All those japanese noise words there's too many of them

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I don't like this album version of Rune Pika. Original with just Freyja sounds much better.

>>143425156
All the lyrics is included on the album. just wait for FLAC release since they include the full scan of the album.

>>143425145
Fights matter because Hayate needs been buffed up by Freyja and that means more idol time

>>143425132
The fuck

>>143425184
>Not liking the WOWOWOW choir
The worst taste

>>143423863
Really anon, this is not Frontier's levels of bad, but it's right there, everyone jobs hard, Messer gets rekt, then out of the blue thanks to magic idoru newtypes Hayate that doesn't do jackshit as a pilot gets ultra newtype against the blonde guy who was from the beginning a Windermere Newtyp and wins? really? it was shounens of level bad.

>>143425274
The only thing jobbing here is this opinion and your attempt at a post

>>143425145
>If the fights aren't going to matter
The fights do matter. The pilots aren't the most important people and they very rarely are aside from the main one and the secondary one which still applies here

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WINDNIGGER GENOCIDE WHEN?

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>>143425035
>no Master Herman in the promo
Flag?

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Jiri Jiri~

>>143424394
Love! Halation The War (w/ Freyja)

>>143425315
If people really think this is something good, then macross is totally finished, the last good thing that came from this is 7.

>>143425274
You are thinking too hard in terms of power levels when this is about bonds

>Hayate that doesn't do jackshit as a pilot
And now you're just lying. He's as good as the rest of the Knights. Keith is just already on a far higher level

>>143425336
He's not a pretty boy.

>>143425336
No Cassim either.

>>143425336
No Cassim either

Neither of them are pretty boys

>>143425093
never

>>143425349
bye

>>143425328
Can't come soon enough.

>>143425361
Is he really that good or for some weird reason we never see anyone doing something even when they are a Elite Squadron?, we don't see Arad fighting at all and he never shows up to help at all, Chuck and Mirage suck only because Kawamori is always focusing in Hayate doing everything even when he shouldn't be doings so.

Theory: the reason Delta never gets any kills is because design team considers generic Windmerians a pain to design due to their runes all having unique placement. Thus they never rotate anyone unimportant into Keith's team.

Evidence: even though we've seen nameless Windmereans shot down on a few occasions we've never had an in cockpit shot of any of them, except Ghoula who was characterized a bit to make Hayate's first kill a bit more impactful. Contrast this with Spacey pilots who we frequently get face shots of right before they explode or as they get varred.

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>>143425341

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>>143425440
That's the spirit, we are going to send them back to the stone age

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What are all of Freyja's quirky phrases, and what do they mean?

HOINA = ?
GORIGORI = ?

>>143425448
>Is he really that good or for some weird reason we never see anyone doing something
The only one we really never see doing anything is Arad. Hayate very frequently teams up with the others. And they focus on him because, you know, he is the main character. And what do you mean "When he shouldn't be doing so", when they focus on him it's when he's trying to protect Walkure or getting into his own 1v1

>even when they are a Elite Squadron?
Delta is very much not an elite squadron. They aren't like SMS which is made of the best of the best, they were just a private security group that got tossed into an impossible situation

>>143425184
agree

Is Mikumo's hair a giant rune?

>>143425524
Gorigori is her ultimate attack

>>143425336
That's a really early promtional art where the focus was the idol group, vs ikemen group. It's only got visual design down for the idols and the pretty boy knights, as well as Kawamori clearly designed the mechas. This is what he used to pitch the show for sponsors, and then the concept evolved from there as he also had to take in things like a love triangle on the demand of sponsors etc.

Herman and then Cassim likely came to be once the Windermere side was fleshed out and expanded on. It in itself isn't a death flag, but he has them in spades already.

>>143425184
Well the full version of Freyja was already released. Go find it online and listen to than instead.

>>143425524
Whatever GG feels like subbing it as

>>143423831
I'm sure people will still be singing Beatles songs in ten years.

Reminder to by the album!
Because delta squad needs all the money they can to fight the wind cucks

>>143425349
>>143425274
How do you deal with the cognitive dissonance that comes with thinking 7 was good while finding magic song powered Hayate beating genius level pilots bad?

This isn't even close to the level of ridiculous that 7 had. Basara literally stopped a beam more powerful than Macross cannon with his song energy coming from his mouth. I'm not saying I didn't love every single second of it, mind you.

>>143425524
Gorigori is definitely a nonsense word

>>143425612
When was the last time you saw a 14 year old singing a Beatles song?

Why didn't they make Mikumo a love interest?

>>143425524
Hoina or Haina, is an affirmative.
Gorigori is kinda like deculture.
Gori singular seems to be 'very'

>>143425678
Because no one would be able to compete?

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>>143425678

She's one of those idolsluts that sleeps with a ton of groupies, and it's not important enough to even show on screen.

>>143425634
The think anon is that 7 never crossed the "I beat you because of music AT PILOTING", that's why Gamlin was there, to make his part as a pilot, here Hayate doesn't do any of that, his pendant does his job and the girls boost him to insane levels.

>>143425678
because she's an autistic jellyfish

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Will Mikumo take the shota-prince cherry?

>>143425678
So that autists like you could come ask this.

>>143425741
I want to cum on his crown

>>143425524
Ap'Ju. I count it because it's cute when Freyja does it.

>>143425678
There's 13 episodes left, we can only hope.

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>>143425564
>Gori Gori!
>RUNE PIKA BEAAAAAAAAAM!

>Nordic influenced race
>not cause Var outbreaks by this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6-krHfdmGg

>>143425678
Because they already did that in Frontier.

>>143425562
nuh those are tentacles
She spends her free time raping virgins

>>143425562
She's a birdman.

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What's going to save Freyja from WindAIDS?

>>143424394
Bokura no Senjou is so good.

Ikenai Borderline (with Freyja) on the other hand is quite bad compared to the album single version.

>>143425997
Love.

>>143425997
Mikumo's tentacles

>>143425724
>The think anon is that 7 never crossed the "I beat you because of music AT PILOTING" that's why Gamlin was there,
Because 7 and Delta are different shows with different methods. Delta never crossed the "everybody in the entire world fucking loves the main pilot" line either

>to make his part as a pilot,
Gamlin did not actually do anything as a pilot of note for a very long time. The majority of his time was being overshadowed by Basara and this was basically his entire role until he accepted the holy Basara in his heart

>here Hayate doesn't do any of that, his pendant does his job and the girls boost him to insane levels.
No, Freyja, specifically her boosts him to insane levels because that's what the show is about, their bonds. We know that Hayate cannot beat Keith on his own right now because of it but when he is with Freyja he can stand up to him because that's what the story is going for. It's different but it fits with Macross themes..

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>>143425627
Fuck Delta. I'll buy Keith's manga and Keith's Draken, though. Windermere (and Keith) a best.

>>143425678
Do you think Mikumo is the kind of person who would give a shit about romance?

>>143426116
>Windermere (and Keith) a best.
Hahahahahahahaha

>>143425035
Remember when we thought that the idols were the pilots?

>>143426014
I liked it better with Freyja, it mixes well with mikumo's voice.

>>143426171
Have a pity (you).

>>143426116
Kit of Keith's Draken with Ghosts WHEN?!

>>143424394
Cosmic Movement's still my favorite, but I'm really digging Neo Stream, especially considering I completely forgot the song existed until today.

Where does all the bitterness about Frontier TV come from? I don't remember it that as being particularly bad.

>>143426246
>ghosts
it's lil' drakens

Anyone else happy the Windermere stuff resembles the protoculture junk from Zero? Cool continuity.

>>143426271
You should rewatch it.

>>143426289
It's Protoculture stuff

>>143426276
Yeah but they're not piloted. Just because the body is different doesn't mean it isn't ghost technology.

>>143426276
They might as well be Ghosts, they serve the same function and we haven't even heard them called Lil' Drakens in the show

>>143426405
there's a neutral word: drones
Ghost refers to NUNS line of such drones. Just like valkyries refer to the NUNS line of variable fighters you wouldn't use 'valkyrie' about Draken

>>143426497
Alright. DRONES.
When are we seeing a kit of Keith's Draken with DRONES?

>>143425724
The main theme of 7 was the stupidity of firing missiles. So we got overpowered enemies that no available weapon can defeat, and Basara's song energy became a shield, a weapon in a way, and a means of comminication with Protodeviln.

The main theme of Delta seems to be teamwork and bonding, as other people have pointed out in the thread. So we have Freyja's song becoming a way of riding the wind for Hayate. It's not really "beating Keith at piloting", Hayate is still a worse pilot than Keith in general. It's more like a symbolic shadow of the themes casted onto the plot of the anime. Much like Basara's song energy beam coming from his mouth.

I mean, I honestly don't really see why this is such a problem. We had people waking up from coma or being cured of mindwashing thanks to Basara's music, hell, one of Delta's main plot points is very much similar. We had the whole Spiritia levels rising due to music, Spiritia being the life force of humans. So we know music can effect the mental state of humans to a great, perhaps ridiculous degree in Macross, which is partly true even in real life. So why is a person being better at piloting for a limited time such a stretch?

And no, Freyja's influence on Hayate doesn't mean piloting takes a backseat, just that Hayate becomes a better pilot thanks to having fun and being in a much more free-spirited mental state thanks to her bond with Freyja and fold quartz.

>>143426271
Too much love triangle melodrama, high school bullshit, boring antagonists and villains, bland characters other than Sheryl and Klan, Ranka...

>>143425524
>Rune run

Currently listening the album. Does Reina and Makina get to sing apart from their solo? It feels like it's all Mikumo and Freyja and maybe sometimes kaname.

Which Walkure drops the biggest and smelliest shits? Smallest and odorless?

>>143426608
Klan is the blandest and the most idiotic character in Frontier though.

>>143425678
Because it'd turn into a harem.

Sooner or later, Mirage needs to follow Freyja's wind in order to keep up

>>143426608
I dislike Frontier TV series in general, but the love triangle was the best written in the franchise and the best aspect of the show.

>>143426563
Thank you anon. I feel good to have had my autism stroked by you.

As to your question, I don't know. I'm imagine a delta upgrade to come in a not too distant future, maybe we'll see them released around the same time.

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>>143425209
?

W/a/lkure album when?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1DarWQHIjOc
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0EcOhLHlhOu
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0F93hkl17Fz

>>143426241
(you)

>>143426819
>but the love triangle was the best written in the franchise
How can you seriously believe this? What is a well-written love triangle to you?

>>143426902
(you).

COSMIC

>>143426921
(you)

>>143426956
(you)

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I want a Freyja too.

>>143426271
I like frontier but it had a major problem with the villains not having a clear motive or anything. I still don't know what Grace's problem was and spacebugs and Ranka having spacebugaids was dumb

>>143426885
I'm in if we're doing GIRI GIRI AI.

>>143426728
Biggest and smelliest: Makina/Reina. All that junk food.

>>143426916
Ranka being shat upon.

Jokes aside, it was just fun and exciting to watch in general with two wonderful young ladies in the running. I can't say the same about the love triangles in SDF, 7 or Delta.

>>143427038
>with two wonderful young ladies in the running.
>two
TV Ranka is terrible.

>>143426837
Didn't cost me anything and the potential information was worth more than me being an autist in return.
Too bad there's not even rumors about a drone-clad Draken.

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>>143426885
>The third one
>That moan

Anyone know if there's a translation out for the newest Keith prequel manga chapter? I heard it talks about some of the unfair trade agreements Windermere had with NUNS.

>>143427070
All rankas are terrible

>>143427038
If you actually liked Ranka, you must have just loved how the entire internet turned against her

>>143427070
Fuck off. Ranka's first Seikan Hikou is literally the best scene in Frontier. I like Sheryl's personality much more but she doesn't have anything comparable.

>>143427116
Yeah, it was quite funny to be honest.

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>>143427107
Check Batoto or Madokami or Kissmanga.

>>143427116
Rankafag here. I still don't really understand why people hate her desu.

>>143426994
Huh? I thought they were one of the best villains in Macross franchise.
Grace just wanted to rule the galaxy using Vajra network.
Leon wanted to become the president, land Frontier on Vajra planet and monopolize fold quartz resources.
They had different goals, but achievable through the similar means. That's why they helped each other in the beginning.

>>143427117
One good scene doesn't excuse her shittyness.

>>143427155
>A draft as a trade agreement
That does sound like a pretty shitty trade agreement. What the hell did Windermere get in return for this?

>>143427155
Ernest nuking NUN central office when?

>>143426592
>Hayate becomes a better pilot thanks to having fun and being in a much more free-spirited mental state thanks to her bond with Freyja and fold quartz
It still doesn't change the fact that Hayate is dependent on Freyja to boost his piloting skill at this point. There may come a point that Freyja singing for him won't work, she's rendered she's unable to sing, or taken out of the picture. I understand the the whole bonding and teamwork but unless Hayate takes extra measures to seriously improve himself he'll remain an inferior pilot to Messer or Keith.

>>143427169
She looks like a dog, acts like a kid, is clingy, weak, a coward, betrays her people because Alto doesn't want to give her the dick, easily jealous, pampered...

>>143427116
I didn't care who came out on top in the Frontier love triangle, but I liked Ranka as a character. I honestly don't know why she gets so much hate.

>>143427155
It makes me sad they had to face each other. You could tell they cared for each other a lot. Fuck this shitty drama. How would Ernest react knowing Gramia was killed?

>>143427155
I would hope people actually clean up my terrible grammar before they commit them to a page. And god forbid all the typo's.

Not that it matters much. I'm just saying you're getting a bum deal since I can't be arsed to check what I write.

>>143427206
It's not her fault that she was forced to be a weapon of war against enemies whose pain she felt and her dear song tinkered with into a propaganda piece, for practically half the show.

>>143427155
>he still uses that shitty font
Anon, I know you're reading this. Stop it. That font is pure unreadable cancer.

>>143427255
>trade agreement.
It's NUNS. It's military treaty, not trade agreement. Windemere (and other NUNS nations) help NUNS when someone needs it, NUNS helps Windermere when Windermere needs it.

>>143425678
Implying she won't win in the end.

>>143427255
>trade agreement
Not all treaties are trade agreement

>>143427038
> love triangles in ... 7
There was love triangle in M7? Basara was musicsexual from the start till the end with no changes whatsoever.

>>143427362
A treaty Ernest thinks is shit.

>>143427333
It's okay anon, they are just speedscans. We are grateful for what we have. As long as it's redeable I'm fine with it.

>>143427362
But what enemies did Windermere had? And wasn't most of the conflict of NUNS related to internal strife?

>>143427297
>clingy, weak, a coward
So does Sherryl toward the end of the series

>betrays her people
She doesn't want to be a war tool and tries to end the war. Not her fault that she didn't know that his brother waa manipulated

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>>143425678
The show is only halfway over. Don't count out Kawamori's self-insert just yet.

15 決別 レゾリューション
16 ためらい バースディ
17 拡散 オンステージ
18 感覚 エマージェンス

>>143427291
It's still the mid-point of the series, there's still plenty of room for Hayate to improve.

Man, sometimes I feel that people are so used to the 13 episode format that they are rendered incapable of watching anything longer. I can't even imagine how much 7 would get shitposted if it aired now.

>>143427297
>acts like a kid

She is a kid, she's only 16 years old in the series.

>>143427362
Hey, I like the font, it looks classy like Windermere.

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What will they do with Freyja's hair and rune when she's captured?

>>143424405
It's a meme you dip

>>143427421
>A treaty Ernest thinks is shit.
I doubt it, it's a standard military pact. Ernst probably thinks that Windermere are discriminated since they are used more than other nations or something like that.

>>143427362
What Roid said about their abilities being convenient to NUNS makes me think that they may have felt used against their better interests. They seemed upset about being deployed outside their planet and if I remember right their main role is protecting the royal family, right? They seemed upset over the fact that they were being used to fight not for the defense of Windermere.

>>143427509
> Freyja
You mean Bogue

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I want to marry him and impregnate him and then raise a loving family with him.

>>143427297
>betrays her people because Alto doesn't want to give her the dick
I'm tired of this shit. Don't tell me, you thought Leon was a good guy, right?

>>143427462
15. Farewell Resolution.
16. Indecisive Birthday.
17. Diffusion On Stage.
18. Sense of Emergence (as if you're growing wings and about to fly).

>>143427473
> I can't even imagine how much 7 would get shitposted if it aired now.
PLANTED DANCE/10.

>>143427509
they'll comment her on a job well done

>>143427536
He is against it vocally, anon.

>>143427486
I don't. But let's settle things with a poll like the gentlemen we are:

http://www.strawpoll.me/10612007

This episode was amazing.

>>143427678
While the progression is pretty cool, the animation looks like shit.

>>143427612
I'm wondering if someone else grows a fold receptor with that last one

>>143427473
>I can't even imagine how much 7 would get shitposted if it aired now.
REEEEEEEE 20 episodes and nothing happens!!! this is worse than endless eight!

>>143427272
>some remote fleet on the other side of the galaxy was unfair to local niggers
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee out with the mankind! total war now!

Truly Zeon of the Macrossverse

>>143427780
It could be a long waited Mirage's episode?

>>143427869
>local niggers
They look like Aryan Master Race. NUN are backwater niggers though.

>>143427912
Why someone so irrelevant would get an episode?

>>143427912
I would be so okay with it.

>>143427869
Windermere:
Does not have Rock
Does not have Idols
Does not have giant chicks
Does not apparently have regular-sized chicks
Does not have Space Whales
Does not have haircuts
Does have creepy mind control music

Would anyone even follow them if they weren't brainwashing people?

>>143428016
Not going to happen

>>143427473
>I can't even imagine how much 7 would get shitposted if it aired now.

Are they still on Planet Dance?

>>143428033
They have cute shotas and lolis, tho'.

>>143427811
I expected to be bored in the first part of 7 after everything people here said about it. It turns out those people were the same ones who say shit like every episode of Tatami Galaxy being the same.

The only repetitive part in 7 that bothered me was the action scenes. Same stock footage over and over again, and it's not even good stock footage. And that never really changed from the beginning to the end.

I'm bothered that after 13 episodes literally nothing bad happened to Windermere

>>143428033
Why would anyone follow the NUN? They only have seedy looking ugly people in every show.

Just join SMS or Chaos.

>>143428033
Heinz's song is more beautiful than idol music.

>>143427612
If you dont read the title for ep 16 in the echoey voice from the original macross's ep previews, youre doing it wrong.

>>143428110
Their king just died retard.

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>Roid implies they are being used thanks to their fighting abilities
>They don't like having to fight for any other reason that isn't protecting Windermere

Well, these two pages reveal quite a bit. We still need to know what exactly made Gramia decide to go to war but the last page implies it'll happen soon. Also, in this chapter Heinz must be at least 2, Keith and Roid 12 and 13 respectively and Bogue 8.

>>143428110
>Bellri died
>King died
>Bogue BTFO by Hayate several times
>Keith BTFO by Hayate

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>>143428110
Soon it will happen

>>143423573
>Why does she get all the attention and noone else gets any?
Guess they have no idea what to do with the others so the solution is to distract as much as possible with gorigoris.

>>143427645
He is against usage of Windermerian forces, not treaty itself.

To be honest Knights were a little bit unreasonable. The whole point of military pact is that everyone helps everyone. If rogue Zentradi attacks one planet/fleet other planets/fleets should come to help. That's basically what happened in the end of Frontier movies. But Knights were a little bit egoistical. "Nah, we protect only our own planet. But if someone attacks us, NUNS should help us". If that was their way of thinking they should have left NUNS (which they did through the war for independence).

What Ernst probably meant is discrimination by NUNS. I.e. that Windermerian forces were used for helping more than other nations. Or that windies were used in far away operations when other allied fleets were near by. Basically it's abuse by NUNS and not by treaty itself.

>>143428146
An useless and easy replaceable character
>>143428160
>BTFO
Getting shot down and surviving isn't nearly as bad as what the NUN lost, and Messer's death
>Bellri
Irrelevant

>>143428118
Keith please.

Hayate doing an Immelman dance with the Macross Elysion and double punching the protoculture ship highjacked by the Epsilon foundation aka the central government when?

>>143427912
Mirage should just die instead.

>>143428088
I haven't seen any relevant lolis on Wind yet.

>>143428091
It's my least liked part of the franchise, but only because of its execution and all those epsides. I know what it's going for, I get the concept of 7. I like the concept even. I'm super appreciative that it expands the macross world too. But it lacks that Kawamori touch in its execution, save for some later episodes (Guy usually does concert and battle scenes). So yeah ,what usually draws me in isn't out and about much for this one as much.

>>143428205
He's the one telling the NUG shouldn't get away with this, not Gramia. What is with NUNfags retarded reading comprehension? They are even defending the ugly evil guy from last episode. Kawamori is a tree hugger, blowing up the mother earth is the worst fucking sin in his book.

>>143428250
Indeed
sadly this is the only way she can become relevant

>>143428110
This sounds like an autistic complaint. What part of you didn't think the midway finale wouldn't be the low point for the protagonists?

>>143428091
> and it's not even good stock footage.
Nope, it was good stock footage, at least animation-wise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8vXhrsZFAY

>>143428110
That nuke in ep 13 also destroyed few drakens. So Windermere lost few red shirts too.

>>143428287
I swear they could reveal the NUNS bombed the kids from the Knight School and was the one behind the nuke that wiped tons of civilians and NUNS' own forces and some would still defend them.

>>143428205
Windermere is right and NUN should fuck off. Ernest should lead glorious Zentraedi fleets to glass Earth again as a reminder how shitty they are without their Zentraedi overlords.

>>143428152
> windniggers are superior to other races vs zent fleet
Those zents were going to glass windniggers,
Not on NUNS watch

>>143428350
I'm sure those kids would mostly die. That's why they don't appear in the current show.

>>143428321
Because it's getting too one sided, Winderemere is extremely competent while Hayate is the only good pilot in the Delta Platoon

Windermereans don't have the same aura of mystery as Zentradi, Protodevln and the Vajra and aren't also very interesting

>>143428287
It's probably less NUNS-fag and more HFY mentality. Humans can do no wrong.

>>143428205
>That's basically what happened in the end of Frontier movies.

You mean when NUNS fucked up the happy ending by nuking the vajra queen and alto? What could we do without those useless shitters?

>>143428287
>reading comprehension
Did you even read my post?
I fucking explained how military pact works and what everyone's responsibilities usually are. NUNG (last letter stands for "goverment") was never even mentioned by neither Ernst or Gramia. Nowhere in my post I defended NUNS. But you're just retarded completely brain damaged windfaggot who can only scream "NUNSfags everywhere".

>>143428414
>and aren't also very interesting

Your opinion. I like then more than space orcs, shitty looking space vampires and bugs.

>>143428323
There were some awful ones too, where like, a static fighter is like on the screen, then gets shot by yellow spinning eggs, and blows up. Looked like cheap awful shit.

>>143428414
Well, considering Windermere have been sent to almost every single NUNS sortie due to their superior piloting skills, why shouldn't they be that competent?

>>143428323
The only decent part is the three seconds tranformation of Basara's Valkyrie. Even that pales in comparison to similar transformation scenes in other anime, like ZZ.

I'm not usually one for CG mechs, but introduction of CG with Frontier did wonders for Macross as far as action scenes are concerned.

>>143428479
NUNS is only the military branch of the NUG, you know. NUNS are fairly fodderized and answers to NUG.

A shitty arbitrary pact that Ernest denounces and thinks Windies shouldn't even be deployed and accuses the Spacy.

>>143428447
>fold in
>huge alien is attacking Frontier's main island with 5 million people on board
Gee, I wonder what they were supposed to do in that situation? Maybe next time SMS should have warned them that there was some faggot dancing before Vajra queen.

>>143428396
I do wonder if apart from the bomb Keith and the other knights are mad at humans in general because they lost friends and family alike during the war, kinda like Cassim. The treatment they gave to Hayate and Mirage, and notice they called them "NUNS dogs", made it seem like an eye for an eye thing.

>>143428485
>bunch of retards fighting for a hole they made themselves
>more interesting than other Macross bad guys
>>143428524
I'm okay with them being competent but not with their win streak, also casually finding a Protoculture ship is too convenient

>>143428554
So fucking what? The fact is that they fucked up a happy ending and shat on the protagonists' efforts and Brera's sacrifice by solving shit simply by firing guns. They are the baddies.

>>143428581
Morris probably died.

>>143428601
>bunch of retards fighting for a hole they made themselves
At this point in the series this has become pure bait.

>>143428601
>bunch of retards fighting for a hole they made themselves
That was obviously NUNS' doing. Did you watch the last episode, Gramia thinks is incomprehensible for people to harm their own planet/land and people.

While NUNS guy simply dropped a bomb, killed his own men and civilians without giving a flying fuck about it.

>>143428361
Earth would be a very bad planet for a Zentradi fleet to try and glass at this point.

>>143428152
Master Herman was such a bishie hunk...

>>143428601
>>bunch of retards fighting for a hole they made themselves
Do you watch the show or do you just follow memes in the threads?

Americans like NUNS because they self insert:

>accuse other nations of possessing WoD
>embargos because of wounded pride of not talking shit from them anymore
>think themselves everyone's cops and law
>solves shit by killing, shooting or nuking it
>can't understand a country who doesn't want the imperalist shit they try to sell

>>143428696
I don't remember the episode but I'm pretty sure Frejya hinted that it wasn't the NUN

>>143428552
There is a distinct difference between government and military command.
In this case NUNG doesn't decide who is going to fight against that Zentradi fleet because it's not their responsibility. It's entirely NUNS decision. NUNS would just report to NUNG.

>>143428733
Uh no, she was saying she thought the NUNS did it.

>>143428414
>Hayate is the only good pilot in the Delta Platoon

Hayate is only marginally better than Chuck and Mirage, and they both have better technical skills than he does. According to informed ability Arad is the only "ace" left in Delta at this point but we never actually get to see him do anything. The only person who actually racks up any successes for Delta is Freyja and she's not even a member.

>>143428654
>Forgetting the episode on Voldor where the Voldorian diplomat accused Windemere of nuking themselves and Roid smiled instead of objecting

>>143428274
Just imagine Freyja as a loli and you're set.

>>143428601
Maybe they're right and the Protoculture did favor them? That and why is a ship on Windermere that much of a stretch, especially since this is the last stop of the Protoculture civilization?

>>143428601
>bunch of retards fighting for a hole they made themselves
Is this bait? Or are NUNfags' intelligence that low?

>>143428724
Windermere mind controls and kills civilians. Nothing they do could ever justify that.

>>143428724
Now everything makes sense.

>>143428733
Freyja stated the NUN did it. Mirage was the one who told her that shit and she looked puzzled because the King stated otherwise.

King is according to Ernest a honest and chivalrous honorfag who has his people first. He wouldn't lie. You know who was displayed lying and backstabbing? That central office guy who just lied and nuked the place to get data and fuck off.

>>143428782
One thing is what is stated and another is what is done. Hayate downed the Windemeran Ace and the others didn't.

>>143428733
What? When?
How would she know anyway, she was just a kid with an apple

>>143428609
>So what if they made a perfectly rational decision based on the information they had available to them!

Do you even read what you write?

>>143428609
You remind me those american protests regarding violence against black people
>that poor black guy was a criminal, he had a knife and he didn't want to surrender
>cops killed him and that's why they are baddies

>>143428794
Considering that NUNS had told the rest of the galaxy that Windermere had nuked themselves and no one bothered to take up Windermere's side of the story, why would he even bother to correct a single misinformed person? It would be a waste of time.

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>>143428724
>fuck these imperialists fags
>well guess we'll become the new imperialists

>>143428794
Yes, and Roid said absolutely nothing. We haven't seen those "dimmensional weapons" either.

You're retarded and you don't realize Roid was playing along so Voldor leader wouldn't cause trouble? Are you fucking autitistic? He was complying because he thought Windermere had those. Telling them "No, actually we don't" is inviting him to rebel.

Gramia, the FUCKING KING, finds unacceptable to bomb your own people. Not as posturing but as a private reaction of disgust against NUNS. Do you think that guy described as someone who would do everything to protect his people would bomb them? Or maybe is the force that actually bombed civilians and its own troops just to run an experiment, lying about their intentions and orders before fucking off? Are you this retarded?

>>143428654
>Gramia thinks is incomprehensible for people to harm their own planet/land and people.
Well, Gramia didn't give order to use the dimensional eater. There could be still hundreds of other Windermerian officers who could do that.

>>143428250
t. Freyjafags

>>143423253

Do we have translations for the song titles?

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I'm pretty sure I saw this shot in another episode.

>>143428985
This episode even reused Keith's shot from the opening. Lazy as fuck.

>>143428808
And NUNS nuked their own planet. What's your point? That when Windermere does something to win a war, it's a warcrime, but when NUNS does it, it's hard men making hard decisions?

>>143428905
NUNS tried to kill the MC of Frontier, almost kills Sheryl by the emotional shock and upset, almost kills the Vajra Queen who was innocent of all this shit too.

Are you saying they are good? Because Kawamori is using them as assholes, tools, or antagonists who get in the way of UNDERSTANDING.

>>143428724
>>accuse other nations of possessing WoD
>>embargos because of wounded pride of not talking shit from them anymore
>>think themselves everyone's cops and law
>>solves shit by killing, shooting or nuking it
>>can't understand a country who doesn't want the imperalist shit they try to sell
You've just described what we saw of Windermere

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>mfw all this windniggers apologists

>>143428856
>That central office guy who just lied and nuked the place to get data and fuck off.
He promised to nuke ruins and warned everyone. When exactly did he lie?

>>143428856
>Freyja was right all along

Another show of why Mirage is shitter. Poor Mirage.

>>143428963
They would have shown those officers by now. They haven't. Instead we have a shady organization like Epsilon and a NUNS officer bombing his own people to get data.

Requesting Bogue stock footage.gif

>>143429017
Yes. NUNS is defending, Windermerians are attacking.
If windies are so good, why do Rangnyans left planet at all? They could just fly away from nuke, but stay on planet and live happily with Windies.

>>143428961
>Calling someone autistic when you put this much effort into be mad
There's no confirmation either way, but judging by how the characters have acted, I'm leaning towards Windemere doing it to themselves.
7 years ago the king was already old by Windemerean standards at 28 and Arad said he was on the front line. Even if the king wasn't party to it, it's very possible that someone else in the chain of command did it and then blamed the NUNS.

>>143428963
Windermere is a kingdom with knights' orders. They follow the King's orders and the King was the White Knight (the military leader) in those times too.

The is no dimension eater, anon. The NUNS likely just ran another experiment but fucked up a big time and ended up blowing up the ruins or causing an space rift with the explosion. Apparently, Windermere people are connected to the environment (the soil and wind, the one with the strongest connection is the wind singer) so they would never willingly harm it.

>>143428857
>Hayate downed the Windemeran Ace and the others didn't.

That was Freyja.

>>143429045
The fact that it wouldn't actually get rid of the ruins. The nuke accomplished a grand total of zero of its objective .

>>143423863
Delta is easily one of the three worst Macross shows.

>>143429153
>I'm leaning towards Windemere doing it to themselves.

You're fucking stupid. I'm done with you.

What could you achieve if you had Frejya's song buffs?

>>143429153
So you haven't been paying attention to the show at all.

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>Defending either NUNS or Windfags
>When both parties are at fault

>>143429130
>Yes. NUNS is defending,
NUNS was just running an experiment. They didn't give two fucks about the fish planet and gave it to the Windermere after they got their info.

>>143429217
not really
you can count Macross II as 3 shows tho, it's this amazing

>>143429248
I could maybe draw a little better

>>143429130
>If windies are so good, why do Rangnyans left planet at all?
Because NUNS are blowing up the ruins and something might happen to the planet.

>>143429248
Be good at something for once

>>143427869
Windermere is just a local Nazi with "muh protoculture aryan descendants" and "rightful windermerean clay"

>>143429227
You're getting real upset about a cartoon, dude.

Next time, Windermere is going to drop a colony on an UN world and claim that it's for their independence.

>>143429130
That doesn't change the fact that when NUNS does something heinous to win a war, it's considered a hard tactical decision, but when Windermere does it, it's somehow a warcrime. One side had shown to take over worlds with minimal of casualties and has largely left the civilian lives untouched. The other nuked a ruin despite knowing it can possibly blow up the planet as a side-effect.

>>143429270
Because everyone knows Windfags will join Delta to nuke some NUNS ass in the end. They are assholes but they are also victims. NUNS are just assholes.

>>143429270
NUNS were scum 7 years ago and they are still scum now. Windies only are scum now and were the victims 7 years ago.

>>143429374
>The other nuked a ruin despite knowing it can possibly blow up the planet as a side-effect.

It wasn't even to defend the planet. They took advantage of the conflict and used that excuse to experiment with the ruins. They knew it wouldn't harm Windermere's ship and were counting on those results. They killed people to get data and then left.

>>143429373
Marida did nothing wrong

>>143429045
"modified reaction warhead have small affect"

>>143429363
NUN is doing the same though but with Earthlings.

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>Walküre Attack

I can't wait for understanding to BTFO all of you faggots. If you don't feel like you'd be BTFO by understanding, then this obviously don't apply to you.

>>143429454
And let's not forget that Ragna is effectively ecologically beyond fucked as being capable of seeing the crater sized hole in the middle of an ocean world meant that dimensional weapon had drained most of the water away.

BOGUE WALKURE 6TH MEMBER WHEN

>>143429185
Rune Pika Beam isn't really a thing, anon.

Messer :_;7

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1467131805243.webm

>>143429045
Posts like this are why I'm not sure if they are shitposts and trollbait or actually made by some retard who isn't paying attention.

That guy supposedly came in orders to stop the Windermere fleet and neutralize it by destroying the ruins. However, what he was truly doing was to run an experiment to test the ruins, using that invasion as excuse. He never intended to protect Ragna and stop the Windies. He was counting on the ruins to be intact as is the Windermere's ship (all according to their scientists' predictions); he killed civilians and his own people (plus Chaos pilots), damaged the environment to collect data. After that he left, he never gave a shit about stopping the mind control, he only made it worse on purpose.

>>143429600
Hayate is no more responsible for his successes when he's buffed by Freyja than Messer's plane is responsible for the enemies Messer shot down while piloting it.

>>143429248
I'd write more codelines/minute

>>143429248
My shitposts would be things of legend.

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>>143429378
>Windfags will join Delta to nuke some NUNS ass in the end
Oh I don't doubt that. I just find some people's hate toward some cartoonic villain tier funny.

NUNS being assholes doesn't hide the fact that kazefags are contributing to the spreading of Var Syndrome and occupying other planets and brainwashing their military under the excuse of "liberation" and "we are protoculture!". Both parties are wrong here.

>>143429192
The nuke accomplished its objective. That guy just lied about his intentions. See >>143429614
It's not about incompetence. He's final villain faction tier.

>>143429746
Kazefags will be dancing at Freyja's tune soon. So all byegones will be bygones. Imagine if all of they get buffed by Freyja.

>>143429759
That's the point I was making. He asked when did he lie, and I typed out when.

>>143429800
This is totally what I expect, them getting buffed by Freyja, Heinz and the rest of Walkure and maybe buffing the rest of Chaos pilots thanks to their runes forming some sort of buffing network. Ultimate teamwork.

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>>143429800
>Mikumo buffs Bogue just for the fun of it.

>>143429614
There is a lot of speculation in your post.
How can you be sure that collecting data was his only goal? It could be only his secondary goal. And he was a little bit surprised with that protoculture thing appearing instead of ruins. He probably didn't fully believe his scientists.
He also waited until the ship was right above the nuke so he did intend to damage or even destroy it. It looks more like a double play by NUNS and not just clear abuse of situation to research protoculture.