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Haifuri saved the season!!

>>143421320
you mean JoJo moeshitfag

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>>143421389
>jojo
>not moe

>>143421389
kill yourself /v/

>>143421320
Kill yourself /u/

Oh boy here we go again.

>>143421240
>Ship Girls Not Kancolle Edition
There are no shipgirls in Haifuri, stop calling it that.

>>143421472
I just copy pasta'ed the last thread. I wanted to make a comparison with the estimate sales.

>>143421414
>hes doesn't like my shitty moe so hes from /v/

>>143421240
>*6,672 Ship Girls Not Kancolle Edition

Why do you make up retarded descriptions for shows you didn't watch? Kancolle and Haifuri have barely anything in common except WW2 ship names.

>>143421472
You are right, it's GuP but shit

Anne Happy BTFO. Sansha Sanyou confirmed for better show.

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>>143421240
>*6,880 Kabaneri
>*9.7k Kabenari

>*6,672 Ship Girls Not Kancolle Edition
Season 2 when

>>143421652
Sansha Sanyou is going to get BTFO next week as well unfortunately. Might sell 300-400 discs more but that's hardly a success.

I like the show but those annoying orbiter characters are uninteresting and annoying. Particularly that stupid shotashit and her groupie and the blue haired brat.

>sakamoto, shounen maid, and tanaka that low
Why

>>143421240
i hope Rezero will beat Kabaneri.

>>143421695
In a fictional universe where they didn't fuck it up and all the GuP fans buy it.

>>143421652
Lament, man. All the SoLs this season are going to have mediocre if not plain bad sales. ;_;

>>143421510
There was substantial trolling for sure with people inflating the estimates by repeatedly cancelling and reordering on Amazon. Stalker can't keep track of stuff like that.
Then there's also people who really didn't like Vivaneri.

>>143421240
*7,968 00/13　Jojo Part 4
*6,880 00/03　Kabaneri
*6,672 00/06　Ship Girls Not Kancolle Edition
*6,346 00/09　Re: Zero
*5,940 00/06　Bungo-Stray-Dogs
*2,826 00/06　Bakuon!!
*2,593 00/06　Flying Witch
*2,126 00/05　SUPER LOVERS
*1,849 00/06　Netogenoyome
*1,809 00/02　Kuma Miko
*1,508 01/06　Kiznaiver
*1,424 04/04　Ninja Slayer 2016 Edition
**,748 00/07　Tanaka-kun
**,578 03/03　DJ Flash Animation

I find it a little more informative like this.

Not that anyone will care and will shitpost anyway.

>>143421742
a lot of chinese trolled about Kabaneri.

>>143421715
Japanese having no taste
as always

>>143421715
Because they are:
>Sakamoto
Bad one-trick-pony show that got old before the first episode was over, and it has awful production values.

>tanaka
Unfunny fujoshit bait.

>shounen maid
Unfunnier, fujoshit trash.

>>143421715
>fujo and not even funny
>fujoshit
>fujoshi

hmm i wonder why

>>143421819
>>143421998
>shounen maid
>fujoshit

Kabaneri got highly estimated

Holy shit, those Kabaneri estimates vs real sales. Did people really start cancelling their preorders after all that shit they pulled with Biba in the end?

>>143422147
No? It was always going to be overestimated due to its price and the surge of preorders.

>bungou somewhat selling
Suprised.

Where's luluco?

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>>143421240
>*5,940 Bungo-Stray-Dogs
>*2,826 Bakuon!!
Wow that's a sharp line.

>**,578 DJ Flash Animation
Tonkatsu DJ? With barely a peep on Stalker? AOTS!

>>143422251
In the trash where it belongs.

>>143422251
In the future.
2016/09/14

>>143421240
>*6,880 Kabaneri
Jesus.

To compare with GC's first week, BD(DVD) was 7,164(2,878)

>>143421715
>>143421819
Yeah no, there's a simpler explanation. All three of them are manga adaptations.

Also Sakamoto as a manga ended so there wasn't really much of an audience there

>>143422147
You think someone braindead enough to buy Kabaneri would care about the Biba shit? They probably loved it.

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>>143421240
>Below 1,540 (No data)
>Anne Happy

>>143421240
>*1,424 Ninja Slayer 2016 Edition
Is that supposed to be Luluco? Because that comparison couldn't be further off then.

>>143422411
I am not sure but Ninja Slayer did get a new edition, I think,

Where's my hero academia?

>>143422395
In the trash where it belongs.

>>143421725
It will beat that trainwreck in two weeks.

>>143421240
>Jojo bombing
Part 5 never

>>143422444
On sale tomorrow.

>>143422447
Meant to quote >>143422444

>>143421755
what does 00 mean?

>>143422411
No. Luluco doesn't come out until September

>>143422444
Expected to do 3 - 4k next week

How does it feel when Spring have maximum 1 series that pass 10k average this year? (and it'ss Macross delta)

>>143422471
First is not bombing.

>>143422497
kek

>>143422507
Like three gangsters cornered me in an alley, beat the shit out of me, stole my stuff, then forced me to suck their cocks and then raped my ass until it bled and then pissed on me and walked away laughing.

>>143422497
Well that kinda sucks atleast the manga is doing ok

>>143422507
Is it even particularly common for more than one or two Spring shows to pass 10k average

>>143422745
Spring is like one of the stronger seasons.

2015 Spring vol 1 sale:

Sales Title
60,465 Uta no Prince-sama Maji Love Revolutions
35,917 Fate/stay night Unlimited Blade Works Part II
22,116 Kekkai Sensen
13,754 Yahari Ore no Seishun Love Come wa Machigatteiru. Zoku
10,295 Hibike! Euphonium
9,862 Show By Rock!!
9,488 Gintama°
7,130 Hello!! Kin-iro Mosaic

Top 2016 Spring vol 1 sale:
>>143421240


What happened?

>>143422821
they need to make more sequels

WITfags on suicide watch.

>>143422745
2013
83,683 SNK
65,465 UtaPri LOVE2000%
40,915 Yamato 2199
20,840 Oreimo 2
18,801 Railgun S
15,031 Hataraku Maou-sama
13,567 SNAFU

2014
116,266 Love Live 2
35,159 Haikyuu
13,999 Jojo Part 3
13,290 Mahouka
12,996 GochiUsa
11,394 Mekaku City Actors
10,573 NGNL

2015
60,350 UtaPri Love Revolutions
35,548 UBW 2
22,208 Kekkai Sensen
13,495 SNAFU 2
10,120 Hibike

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>**,748 Tanaka-kun
WHAT.


>Japs eating Kabaneri up.
Oh my god are you fucking serious, This has to be the worst shit taste Japan has ever had.

>>143422932
2016 We have Konosuba and what? GuP (again)?

Anime is dying.

>>143423016
GuP is a movie. Koyomimonogatari will sell like 20K but yeah that's about it.

>>143423016
People are obviously saving this year for Love Live and fall seasons which have some of the most hyped series this year.

>>143423054
ONA is not TV show though. It's more like OVA. So it doesn't count

Anime is unironically in need of saving.

>>143422821
>35,917 Fate/stay night Unlimited Blade Works Part II
Amazing how quickly everyone forgot this shitty adaptation

>>143423070
There's a Love live every year

>>143423070
>saving
this is not a thing. Anime is dying.

>>143423103
KyoAni noticed and will soon save it again, don't worry.

>>143422971
>Japs eating Kabaneri up.
Kabaneri was always going to "sell"

However, it's doing pretty bad considering expectations. Like, this is absolutely not an example of Japan eating something up

>>143423116
It's a box sale, so it's actually about 10k each vol

>>143423161
Even though there are more shows than ever and people have been spending more money than ever? Ok anime is dying ;_;

>>143422507
I don't know, other shows are looking pretty healthy.

>>143422497
>estimations

Didnt you retards learn anything?

>>143423211
only those are selling. They will die too in 2/3 years.

>>143422507
>and it'ss Macross delta
Just like Kabaneri right?

How do we save anime?

>>143423211
>Even though there are more shows than ever
Because the industry was going well in 2013-2014, that leads to an increase of making anime

Anime is short term, it's dying now until something saves it

>>143422821
Are those overall sales or just first week?

Because most the shows right now will obv add more sales.

>>143423273
Kyoto Animation

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>>143423273

>>143423289
KyoAni?

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>>143423256

>>143423273
Pay for it?

>>143423256
Kabaneri showed clear signs of dropping as much as like two weeks ago. Delta has only been rising

>>143423300
Only Re zero may pass 10k at this point though

>>143423342
>Delta has only been rising
Kek

Japan's Yearly Blu-ray & CD Rankings for 2016 (First Half)

Blu-ray
*1.　224,057　Love Live! The School Idol Movie Limited Special Edition
*2.　181,487　Girls und Panzer der Film Special Edition
*3.　*48,273　Osomatsu-san Vol.1 Limited Edition
*4.　*38,571　Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin Vol.3
*5.　*36,762　Osomatsu-san Vol.2 Limited Edition
*6.　*30,232　Osomatsu-san Vol.3 Limited Edition
*7.　*27,660　Kokoro ga Sakebitagatterunda. Limited Edition
*8.　*27,427　Osomatsu-san Vol.4 Limited Edition
*9.　*25,549　Owarimonogatari Vol.1 "Ougi Formula" Limited Edition
10.　*25,174　Owarimonogatari Vol.2 "Sodachi Riddle" Limited Edition

11.　*24,696　Owarimonogatari Vol.3 "Sodachi Lost" Limited Edition
12.　*24,090　Owarimonogatari Vol.5 "Shinobu Mail" Part 1 Limited Edition
13.　*23,713　Owarimonogatari Vol.5 "Shinobu Mail" Part 2 Limited Edition
14.　*23,634　Osomatsu-san Vol.5 Limited Edition
15.　*21,721　Persona 3 the Movie 3: Falling Down Limited Edition
16.　*20,950　Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio: Ars Nova Cadenza Limited Special Edition
17.　*20,365　Code Geass: Boukoku no Akito Final - Itoshiki Monotachi e Limited Edition
18.　*16,677　Aria The Animation Blu-ray BOX
19.　*16,502　Bakemono no Ko
20.　*14,799　Digimon Adventure tri.1: Saikai

21.　*14,690　Bakemono no Ko Special Edition
22.　*14,498　ARIA The NATURAL Blu-ray BOX
23.　*13,578　Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?? Vol.1 Limited Edition
24.　*13,084　The iDOLM@STER Cinderella Girls Vol.9 Limited Edition
(cut-off 13,084)

Only new IPs are movies. TV anime is indeed in the shitter. I blame online streaming services. They don't stop piracy, they just make normies stop buying physical releases.

>>143423332
Good luck with Phantom world, losing to half of harem shows in its season

>>143422147
Kabaneri went from challenging SNK sales number to tanking to fractale level in a span of 3eps. 3eps rule literally kill the sales for train titans.

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>>143423336
>>143423256

>>143423402
>I blame online streaming services.
and Piracy.

TV Anime Global Mean Average Sales from 2000 to 2016

Bones - 6,584
Gainax - 6,483
KyoAni - 23,362
Madhouse - 3,231
PA Works - 8,837
Production IG/WIT - 7,834/14,876
UFOTABLE - 18,968
Sunrise - 16,661
SHAFT - 14,718
Trigger - 4,819

Global Mean Average Sales from IG in the past 5 years - 8,781

Global Mean Average Sales from KyoAni in the past 5 years - 12,528

Global Mean Average Sales from SHAFT in the past 5 years - 21,431

Global Mean Average Sales from Ufotable in the past 5 years - 35,858

>>143423457
>piracy didn't exist in 2011 - 2014

lmao

>>143423429
>rising
>that drop in the middle of the week

>>143423391
Okay then, we'll use your insight. How well do you think Delta will do on the first week next month

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-05-26/director-hideaki-anno-laments-over-anime-decline/.88557
Japan's Anime is heading towards a decline. The director of famous anime "Neon Genesis Evangelion", Mr. Hideaki Anno (55), defends this opinion.

Mr. Anno, approaching his 55th birthday, held an interview with RIA Novosti on May 22nd.

Mr. Anno said that Japan's anime has passed its peak, that it has lost its light, and that it was on its way to a decline. After completely losing its light, he opined, it would likely begin a new resurgence.

According to Mr. Anno, the modern anime production system is only barely managing to function, and that it's only a matter of time before it crumbles. In any case, from what he sees, he thinks that it would likely not even last twenty years, and even argues that after about 5 years, the anime industry will be unable to continue in the state it is in now. As it starts to lack in funding and human resources, the situation will be such that, in Japan, it will no longer be viable to continue creating anime [I may have messed up on this sentence. Would appreciate if anyone could verify].

However, Mr. Anno does not think that this will mean an end to anime as an artistic form of film. He points out the possibility of the centres of anime production moving to other areas of Asia with good conditions.

According to Mr. Anno's prediction, things like anime will definitely continue to exist across the world, but the demise to Japan being the heart of anime in the world is swiftly approaching.


>MFW HE WAS RIGHT

>>143423481
>from 2000 to 2016
>17 year gap
why

>>143421240
What's with the Haifuri shills spamming their shit in Stalker threads? Is it Aniplex trying their best to market it down everyone's throat?

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>*2,826 Bakuon!!
The dream is dead.

>>143423402
>I blame online streaming services. They don't stop piracy, they just make normies stop buying physical releases.
But it's clearly working as a monetary thing or they wouldn't keep giving licenses to streaming services both in America and Japan

>>143423504
>How well do you think Delta will do on the first week next month
Not 10k at this rate anf there's slways the chance of it being overestimated as well

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>>143423524
>>MFW HE WAS RIGHT
forgot the pic FUCK

>>143423524
That hack has been saying anime is will die soon for decades, don't believe his lies. Truth of the matter is that some of the best selling shows ever have been produced in this decade alone.

>>143423532
>What's with the Haifuri shills spamming their shit in Stalker threads?
Trying to pretend it's more popular than it is

>>143423529
2000 is when sales data started getting more accurate to properly record

>>143423524

Well, the anime industry basically relies on donations from its audience to survive. Not really sustainable in the long term.

>>143423580
But Haifuri was voted as /a/'s personal AOTS.

>There are people trusting stalking seriously
You suppose to look at its rank, not its point. If a series have high rank at the start of the season (top 200), but low rank at the end (still top 200), that means it will be overestimated by at least 20%

>>143423597
No, it wasn't.

>>143423524
It's probably true.

He's still a hack fraud though

>>143423624
Reifag pls

>>143423604
>You suppose to look at its rank, not its point
Do you think we can properly shitpost if we did stalking properly?

Or if anybody knew how to stalk properly

>>143423597
No

>>143423617
>>143423681
/v/ pls

Does this finally mean that stalker threads are irrelevant and shit.

>>143423016
Monogatari Movies. The total sales of all movies without question will break 200k. Leaving GuP in the dust.

>>143423699
I'll keep making Stalker threads to shittalk your favorite show Anon, don't worry about it.

>>143423704
First movie will barely break 50k.

>>143423740
Well whatever. I guess I'll keep on shitposting as well.

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>>143423524
>but the demise to Japan being the heart of anime in the world is swiftly approaching.

>>143422444
>>143422497
>>143422633
Why does that matter? Its a shounen daytime anime and its getting a second season anyways

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>>143423704
>Needs 4 movies to beat GuP.
What the fuck happened to Monogatari? I thought Kizu was so hyped it would beat even Love Live in sales with each release.

>>143423840
Came too late when all the hype over Monogatari has mostly died out.

>>143423698
Fuck off, Aniplex shill. There were a ton of fantastic SoL shows this season that each stood out. Flying Witch, Sansha Sanyou, and Anne Happy in particular were all great and each one approached the SoL genre in a different way that made them stand out. What did Haifuri do? Have meaningless battleship pandering with almost no actual fights or anything of that sort. It deserves its flop. Don't you tell me that it selling this much means it isn't a flop, you know as well as I do that your Aniplex masters were hoping for it to rival or even crush GuP. It won't even get a movie.

>>143422444
In the "we got a Season 2" club

>>143423794
we never laugh at Boku no hero in stalker thread.
Only the show's fans come in, ask a few questions, then start crying

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>>143421240
>*2,826 Bakuon!!
Honestly i was expecting it to completely flop because of japans shit taste. good to see that it did okay

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>>143423698
Are you that same faggot who kept calling people who don't like SoL anime crossboarders from /v/ in that bait thread about Pandora being Winter AOTS?

>>143423888
>same faggot

Most of /a/ does that because people who hate on SoL clearly don't belong here.

So is anime finally dead?

>>143423945
>implying it was ever alive

>>143423340
Tell you what, NIPs start doing ''offical'' subs for those of us who don't know moon runes and ill start buying anime.

>>143422821
>1st week of v1 vs cumulative sales of v1

You're just being retarded.

>>143423904
People who hate on SoL are mostly oldfags who got bored of the genre long ago. People who still like SoL are just posturing newfags trying to fit in

>>143423840
The same thing that happens to all LNs when they take too long to deliver. Not enough people care

>>143424012
Au contraire, oldfags were those who watched shounen or hetshit stuff like FSN (DEEN), Toradora or Monogatari and then grew up and realized anime does its best when it's slice of life as there's no way to fuck it up.

>>143423945
Don't worry, Little Witch Academia 2 will save it!

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>>143423860
japan have shit taste when it come to moe things, haifuri's plot literality shit, only the ending was good

>>143424049
>hetshit
Can you just go somewhere else?

>>143424049
>Au contraire
Go away frogs

>>143424049
It's very easy to fuck up SoL, which is why most of it is boring and forgettable. I see you dislike hetshit too however so I cannot argue with you further. We yurifags need to stick together.

>>143421240
>Gakusen Toshi Asterisk 2nd Season
Suck ANNiplex

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>>143424012
>all this post

How delusional newfag.

Your "oldfags" are in /m/ or mostly dead.
SoL has always been accepted and liked in /a/, people who disagree with this are from /co/ or /v/, who likes shounen and edgy anime, and as you can see in their respective threads; they arrogantly impose their shit taste.

Now fuck off.

>>143424049
This is correct.

>>143424012
This isn't.

>>143424108
Fuck off to reddit if you don't like it.

>>143424141
>boring and forgettable

Maybe for people with ADHD like oyu.

>>143423524
>Mr. Anno said that Japan's anime has passed its peak, that it has lost its light

If only he could kept sight of what he's doing.

>>143423492
But every other anime being a 12-episode ad for LN/manga is happening a lot more than before. Maybe that's part of it. (Yes, I know it's not new, it's just reaching epic proportions.)

>>143424332
He can't. Evangelion is a best seller even if it's shit.

>>143424223
>having standards = having ADHD
When will this meme end?

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>>143423524
>Mr. Anno said that Japan's anime has passed its peak, that it has lost its light, and that it was on its way to a decline. After completely losing its light, he opined, it would likely begin a new resurgence.
Does that mean he's going to release another Eva re-re-re-reboot soon?

So which anime this season is considered deconstruction of its genre?

>>143424160
>admitting that you're not an oldfag
SoLfags everyone

>>143424389
this

>>143424386
>>>>>you
>>>>>>>standards

lmao

>>143424049
>hetshit
Opinion disregarded
>>>/u/
Kill yourself sc/u/m.

>>143424411
Space Patrol Luluco

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>>143424389
>it's a fujowhale post

>>143424424
>lmao
moefags everyone

>>143424452
Yes, everyone on /a/ is a moefag, fuck off to /v/ now.

>>143421707
Fuck you. Every character in Sansha Sanyou is perfect.

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>>143424411
Kuma Miko kind of deconstructed the moe genre.

Well, actually, more like DEstructed it.

From today's rankings, only re:zero (6) and stray dogs (8) are still charting for the top 10. Sad.

>>143424389
>2
Fuck off retarded whale. I want fujoshits like you to get genocided.

>>143424518
I was thinking of asking on /q/ to permaban fujos but I need support.

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>>143422395
>master1200

>>143424547
Worth the 150 pixels.

>>143424411
Luluco
Kuma miko
Re zero
Mayoiga

nothing else

>>143424389
Both yurifags and you fujoshit are cancer, now fuck off to your own board, fucking retard.

>Bungou selling that much

The show is trash but cute guys will always sell I guess

Anime dying?

>>143424634
The first episode was like 20min of sakuga.

>>143424166
>Fuck off to reddit if you don't like it.
Fuck off to t/u/mblr if you like it.

>>143424707
Get banned.

>>143424560
>150 pixels
1282x1071 minus 1200x1003 is not 150 pixels. It's actually more than 10% of the pixel count of the original size picture.

>*2,126 SUPER LOVERS
>It's getting a second season

I can't help but find it funny to see this sort of result from a gay pedo pseudo-incest slice of life show.

>>143423524

>He points out the possibility of the centres of anime production moving to other areas of Asia with good conditions.

So which country will it be?
My guess is for China, they will only produce crap but they got hundred of millions kids as potential customers.

>>143423524
A lot of crap.

>>143424634
Forced animation is a dumb meme but I think it might actually be accurate in the case of Sansha Sanyou.

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>>143424723

>>143421240
>*6,880 Kabaneri
>*5,940 Bungo-Stray-Dogs
>*2,826 Bakuon!!
>*2,593 Flying Witch
>*2,126 SUPER LOVERS

The fuck is all this bullshit?

>>143424810
I know right, except Flying witch, everything else should be much lower.

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>>143424723
>Get banned.

Haifuri had no reason to be as good as it was.

Kind of wish they had let some of the cast die though, but I guess that doesn't really fit the tone of the show. Would have made things more dramatic though.

I mean could you imagine an episode when they push a coffin out into the ocean?

>>143424634
That looks good, it's not realistic but looks fun and hyper, they were most likely going for that. Go back to watching SHAFT garbage or western cartoons if you don't like animation.

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>>143424848
>Haifuri had no reason to be as good as it was.

>>143423273
Remove BDs

>>143424634
>forced animation
Why is this a phrase? Why are you still breathing?

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>>143424848
>Haifuri had no reason to be as good as it was.

>>143423304
Phantom world

>>143424987
First flop in a decade, while most other studios have one flop every other season.

>>143421240
>*2,593 Flying Witch
hoped flying witch sold a little better

>>143421240
I thought anything below 10k was just average, and anything below 5k was mediocre, and anything below 2k was just the wall of shame.

>>143425047

10k: Bscore
5k: C score
2k: E score

D is enough to pass a test right?

>>143425047
Global average is usually around 2k-3k.

>>143425047

Anything above 5k is already above average

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>>143425032
I think we all did, its not even like the otaku money was spread thin there was nothing else memorable airing this season.

>>143423524
Mr. /a/nno is a hack and has been spouting this shit for quite a while now.

Throw enough shit in the wall, one day it sticks. Well, there it is, he's right >now

>>143424848
>Haifuri had no reason to be as good as it was.
Because it wasn't

>>143425032
It's the worst anime ever made, I'm surprised it even sold something, but that's because it already had a well established market of people that would buy anything as long is a SoL.

>>143423402

There's something of a power gap between Bandai Visual then Aniplex then everyone else's releases

>>143424012
>projecting

>>143423420

It never went anywhere remotely close to Titan but cool story I guess

>>143423524

People just yelled about him and I defended him cause I could kind of see the signs of what he was getting at pretry clearly eveb back in 2014. Boy do the angry retards defending the anime industry look kind of stupid right now

>>143423580

That's been happening in Japan too. Even Yaraon commenters have been making fun of how the shows staff and producers act like it's the hit of the century. Its cocksure bullshit even by Aniplex standards rivaled maybe only by how they handled Aldnoah Zero. Similar early sales trend too...worse even

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>>143425554
>Defending that hack
You are literally the most retarded person on this thread.

>>143423840

>Believing in Aniplex shill marketing

Man the movie was struggling at the box office even when they tried to bribe fans with 4 weeks of Isins special benefits novels on the weekend. Imagine if it didn't have those. I think it charted at the ox office for like 2 weeks and then just died.

>>143425554
You're the only one who looks stupid. The anime industry is fine. Best sellers ever are from this decade alone, there are more shows coming out than ever and people spend more. Fucking newfags like yourself are expecting several 50k+ sellers every season, that doesn't happen.

>>143425554
>disk sales
>entire anime industry

The industry is shifting towards streaming and will be stronger than ever because of it.
ReLIFE has already streamed it's entire season before it even aired on TV.

Anime BD and DVD has always been for the fanboys who will buy such high prices and that won't change.

ANNO BTFO

>>143424511

Yeah I noticed that. Not too surprised. I love that GuP Der Film is back in the top 5 yet again too in its 5th week.

>>143425711
Why does Monogatari garbage sell so many discs then? Bakemonogatari sold like 100k+ total including rereleases. It can't be just shilling.

>Kiznaiver only barely beating a fucking 7-minute short
Highlight of the whole list, really. Okada should be fucking ashamed of herself, but I'm sure that by this point that women has no sense of shame or basic human decency.

>>143421240
>Below 1,540 (No data):
>Gakusen Toshi Asterisk 2nd Season
>Hundred

Is the battle harem genre, dare I say it, dead?

>>143425047

10K is fucking amazing for late night TV anime market sales but would be shit for virtually any other media on the planet. Hell even 7K with an event ticket is considered respectable in this market. Thing with late night anime is it went through a bubble period from about 2007-2013 that is finally starting to burst. Its going to really suck for anyone that didn't do a lot of proper franchise building and went too hard into light novels and such

>>143425850
Hope so, hopefully anime adaptations of light novels go with it in the future.

>>143425850

Outside IS was it ever alive?

>>143425667

I'll defend that particular argument because it's pretty much what's happening. I don't particularly care who it's from or what angry shitposters on the internet think about him and his work either way

>>143425748

No were not we're expecting the industry not to hedge so much on crazy marketing schemes and releasing constant crap with event ticketd thinking it's a good way to grow and sustain a market and fanbases good will. Don't be stupid and make up crazy arguments that aren't even being made. Oh wait right /a/ home of goddamn angry morons

>>143425995
You lost kid, just give up.

>>143425798
Monogatari was a juggernaut series at one point, but sequel decay is a real thing. Interest has been waning progressively over the years that it's been ongoing and the ever-increasing number of volumes and episodes one must trudge through to catch up becomes a barrier of entry to new fans. It's sort of like how entry-level weebs lament needing to watch 700 episodes of one piece to catch up. There's just too much monogatari for new fans to go through, so while old fans gradually lose interest and abandon it, it's also not bringing in many new ones.

The anime has been on and off with no set or consistent schedule for 7 years now, and the LNs have so thoroughly and utterly jumped the shark that they're stuck doing interquels, the literal last resort in "I can't let go of my dead franchise" milking.

How long ago was Owarimonogatari published? Owarimonogatari, marketed as the beginning of the finale of the franchise, which then got a sequel and then just sidestepped around the whole "ending" thing to keep fucking going ad nauseum.

The publisher shot themselves in the foot by handing such an important adaptation to Shaft. They did a good job with it, but their inability to maintain a production schedule meant that instead of getting regular series that made the most of its popularity, we got sporadic ONAs and occasional mini-seasons that just cropped up whenever they managed to finish them, and a movie that could have been a major blockbuster blowout riding on the massive surging popularity of the first season, but was instead trapped in production hell for most of a decade because it was simply beyond the scope and talent of the studio responsible. They missed the boat and now the ship has sailed and the franchise is sinking.

>>143425798

That was 2009. I'm not particularly interested in the followup "but it still sells x either" bit. Its called extorting fanatics. Nisioisin has a lot of fanboys

>>143426037
>>143426090
Hah
Serves them right, glad to know monogatari is mostly dead besides the most autistic of fanboys.

>>143426031

Shit getting said at an alarming rate. Cool fine I don't really care to argue with shitposters cause I know it's a waste of time. Now fuck off already and shitpost at someone else

>>143425921
It spawned a lot of clones trying to copy its success, but after this season I don't see many of them being animated anymore.

>>143425921
dxd, date a live, sao ...

BD sales don't matter much they only matter for badly managed companies, how do you think Toei is worth $300 million? disk sales am I right?

>>143426115
I personally enjoy the fuck out of the series. The fan base on /a/ is cancer, but the show has its merits. The animation is gorgeous and the story is 10/10. My best friend irl introduced me to the series years ago because he has read every volume (he is a Japanese-American). The kizu hype should not be downplayed in Japan. It was everywhere. The issue was the time of year that the first part came out and the fact that a lot of people who had read the novels know the story and opted to just watch certain parts.

>>143423551
>Not 10k at this rate
There's always a chance of it being underestimated as well. Macross Delta's pre-orders for it's first volume surpassed Kabaneri's lead in a day.

>>143426326
>DxD
Was very popular but interest keeps getting lower. I don't know if the novels are still popular or not in nipland.
>Date a Live
Dead.
>SAO
Dying.

So since these were very popular but not anymore, the battle harem genre might actually be dying. Praise the Gods.

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>>143421240
>Below 1,540 (No data):
>Anne Happy
Fucking nips and their shit taste.

>Ninja Slayer reruns selling almost as well as Kiznaiver
Just give it a sequel already.

>>143425554
If disc sales defined the entire industry, Toei would be out of business right now

>>143426326
>>143426655
I wouldn't say SAO is a battle harem. It is more of an isekai harem.

>>143426707
The OP was just being cheeky, that listing is for Luluco.

>>143426821
Luluco isn't even out yet

>>143426326
SAO is isekai harem not battle harem

As for those other two, nobody gives a shit anymore. The only thing in this genre that had true actual success and longevity was IS and I hope that this fucking trend dies like the shitty VN adaptation spam of the 00s

>>143426707
Why giving a sequel when their new original will sell as well?

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>>143426866
>The dark ages of harem and VN adaptations are over

>>143424411
This Spring is weak as fuck

>>143427059
Have you looked at what's coming up next week for summer?

>>143426952
Ain't over yet lad. There's still a good amount of harems coming our way.

The only difference now is the fact that they aren't going to be academy battle harems anymore.

>>143426701
To be quite frankly honest, Anne Happy is just nothing special.
I do love the cutesy chibi-eyecatches, but those alone simply cannot carry an entire show. Also, trying to make that whole "tag" game so ultra-dramatic when nothing was really at stake except who has to sleep outside was just kinda meh.

>>143427734
As long as they keep selling less and less it is a matter of time. Some harems will still be made, of course, but they will be few and far in between.

>>143423300
Overall.

>>143423402
Why should Japanese normalfags want to buy hella expensive discs anyway?

>Anne Happy not even rated

Damn. I knew it was going to sell like hot fucking garbage even before the season started but it still stings when it happens. Shit makes me unhappy, man.

>>143428001
You learned nothing from the fucking show? You are supposed to be happy all the fucking time like some sort of psychopath.

>>143421389
BOOYAH

>>143421240
Is Anime really in need of saving? I see this numbers and they are ok. I think you all are just overeacting

>>143428047

Coming on too strong there lad.

>>143426126
Maybe you should follow your own advice first

>>143428071
No. It's just a little funny drama meme during the transition phase when the sales number are published.

In truth, the Earth continues to spin, Japan continues making anime, and we all continue watching their stuff by whatever means we do, be it by really paying streaming services, using pirate streams, using horriblesub, using other torrents, or by not watching the shows at all and just reading the threads in order to fit in when shitposting about it.

Business as usual on /a/.

>>143428071
This is actually a pretty damn mediocre season in terms of sales.
Just from these numbers alone, only 5 shows broke 5k while nothing broke 10k. There was no major juggernaut success taking up all the sales and interest, yet everything underperformed as though there had been. Just by these numbers alone it'd look like the industry is doing very poorly.

It's most likely because the movies released during this season, which aren't listed here, ate up most of those sales, but without that context, this just looks like an abysmal fiscal quarter for physical sales.

>>143428366
Aside from GuP, which movies are eating up sales? GuP is only equivalent to 1 volume per person so it doesn't explain the lack of sales alone.

>>143426952
>>The dark ages of harem and VN adaptations are over

Now comes anime adaptations of smartphone games

>>143428510
No.
NO.

>>143428505
Didn't the first monogatari movie go up for preorders. too?

So what the fuck is with the fujos taking over in 2017?

>>143426952
There are like I think 5-7 harem adaptations more in the woodwork.

But yeah, I guess they won't have the same prevalence as the ones we've had in the previous seasons.

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>>143428579
>fujos taking over
>Haifuri third with 6k sales.
??

>>143428263
oh good i don't want my japanese cartoons to dissapear

>>143423273
More moe. Even senien shows should show the moe show.

>>143424389
Someone's very, very salty here

>>143424634
This webm made me want to watch the show

>>143428866
prepare to be bored

Poor sales as expected. This season was pretty shitty.

>>143421240
>*7,968 Jojo Part 4

>People said it would sell more than all the other parts.

Man what a bunch of idiots.

>>143427734
Yeah, now we just traded shitty VN harem adaptations to shitty high school battle harem LN adaptations for shitty isekai LN harems

Wait no, things haven't gotten better at all

>>143421240
So I guess no part 5 anytime soon for JoJo since it won't even hit 10k.

>>143421998
Why do you type like an idiot, anon?

>>143423871
You got a pre-planned 2nd cour. That's entirely different!

>>143423997
Just pirate your subs. You want to save anime, not buy subs, anon. Pay attention.

>>143425047
>I thought anything below 10k was just average, and anything below 5k was mediocre, and anything below 2k was just the wall of shame.

Yeah, 90% of shows are complete failures, yet they keep making them. Do you have brain damage?

>>143422147
Nothing else in the season has sold even close to 10k either, so Kabaneri was about as overestimated as the other top shows. It wouldn't have made a big difference either way

People are happy with Jojo and yet it's getting the worst week 1 sales compared with the previous arcs.

>>143423420
Kabaneri was never even remotely on track to outsell Titan. That's a lie.

>>143430848
Is that a pun

>>143422507
Macross Delta will only pass 10k if being 2 cour gives it enough legs and the show doesn't devolve into Kawamori's weird endings.

>>143430735
This is an exaggeration.

Failure or success depends on the exact budget, not on an arbitrary number for all shows.

It's possible for shows to make a profit even at low sales numbers if they weren't expensive.

It's also going to include other sources of income as well as how much the show continues selling even in lower ranking positions that don't appear on the charts.

>>143422239
It has event ticket

>>143423420
>Kabaneri went from challenging SNK sales
No

>>143428505

GuP goes well beyond the standard light night anime fanbase. It's an extremely rare exception.

>>143424618
And male voice actors

>>143421998
>>143421819
Insecure beta faggots detected.

>>143422462
re:zeros the only trainwreck in that scenario, I just think it's great that an anime original beat light novel trash, amazing.

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>>143422239

>>143425174
Nope. Average since 2000 is 4.5k. Average in BD era is 5.5k.

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>>143424389

>>143421240
>*1,508 Kiznaiver
>*1,424 Ninja Slayer 2016 Edition

This is really sad, all that effort they put on in Kiznaiver didn't meant shit when it's almost beaten by a half-assed ironically made anime.

It does show what's happening to the industry though, people are just getting bored. The sales are low because this shit isn't as entertaining as it used to be. New trends bring new ways of entertainment and pandering. It's why some series sell ridiculously well and that hasn't changed about the industry all these years.

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>>143422239
Event ticket and heavy in store promotions by the VAs

>>143421819
>Sakamoto
I agree
>Tanaka
>more girls than guys
>fujo bait
It is AOTS
>Shounen Maid
It's not meant to be that funny, more like a heartwarming family drama with some comedy

>>143431751
If the most likely romantic pairing for the MC is another dude then it is fujoshit regardless of how many girls it has

>>143432143
The most likely pairing MC has is with cute megane girl.

>>143424634
The movement on that cat. Is it animated on one frames per sec?

>>143432221
Most of his interactions are with the blonde bishonen, who basically worships him for no reason so I wouldn't be so sure

>>143432329
Nah, Tanaka attested to his own straightness. It almost seemed like they were actually trying to build something up with him and megane, but the season ended before much really happened. If the friend ends up with anyone it'd probably be the fake delinquent girl.

Alright, /a/

Devise the next big thing that will attract the buying power of the male otaku in droves that will blow the fuck out of the fujos

>>143432460
A Monogatari spinoff made by Kyoani

>>143421767
Trolled as in the ordering cancelling shtick?

>>143432460
Why would I hate fujo-money if it's just as foul-smelling and intoxicating as male hetero-otaku-money?
The future lies in omnipandering.

>>143423171
My only hope is that the series looks better in the DVDs than in the tv broadcast.

>>143423211
It's because there are more shows. Otaku money is spread too thin.

>>143432460
What's the point in BTFO fujos when they could pander both and earn more money?

>>143432550
How about a show where everyone (guys and girls) are gay and on ships?

>>143432535
>ordering cancelling shtick?
yes.

>>143432645
>>143421767
>>143432535
Thank you based China

>>143432460
Who knows? More Idolshit probably, maybe the Love Live next season.

I just hope New Game will sell well.

>>143432460
Idol Isekai, 4 girl main unit of - human, elf, fairy and angel
Many more units to follow.

>I was transported to another world and they now want me to be an idol and save the world from anti music monsters

>>143432857
>anti music monsters
Hahahaha holy shit.

I can totally see that happen.

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>>143432857
Th-that actually sounds pretty fun

>>143432857
>>143432935
Replace isekai part with mecha and you will get Macross Delta. And mecha on average attracts more buying power than isekai. Yet it still can't save anime, it will probably make ~10k average.

>>143424012
Newfag detected

>>143432966
Sounds like its fun for 3-4 episodes then it devolves into melodrama and every asspull from Ash Ketchum/YGO MCs/SAO thrown together

>>143433013
>mecha

No thanks it doesn't need all that extra drama, it would just hold it back.

>>143421240
>An original show out doing everything besides a 30 year old series with an established fanbase.

Almost did 7k, good job wit.

>>143432857
The last part sounds vaguely like show by rock.

>>143432645
Why?

Any good seller this summer besides Javlive?

>>143421240
Shit shows deserve to flop.

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That's why you deserve by giving a shit adaptation to Berserk.

>>143437168
>why
what*

>>143435702
Amanchu.

>>143435559
It's the fate of anything being aggressively marketed.

how do i read this

>>143421240
As always the best shows don't sell at all.

>>143423402
How fucking old is this data? Girls und Panzer movie is up to 210,841 copies sold per Oricon.

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>WIT/Araki-fags backpedaling

what excuse will he come up with to explain why Habanero didn't sell?

>>143437947
Can't you read?
>Blu-ray

>>143437967
Well it's not like it didn't sell, as much as I hate it, lt's not that bad for a SNK's poor man.

Now waiting for the main event, SNK S2.

>>143437168
Berserk won't get a proper adaptation until Miura stops being a lazy cunt and finishes the series. Everything in the mean time is just cheap filler.

>>143423168
>Trigger noticed and will soon save it again
ftfy

>>143421240
>*1,508 Kiznaiver

Can Okada finally stop getting work now?

>>143437561
Yeah but why did the chinese did that in particular?

>>143438101
I heard some things about people not being able to cancel their preorders if they ordered directly from aniplex. Is that true?

>>143438642
Cheap labor as usual. It's marketing trolling, not trolling for entertainment, to sweep in those who buy things because they appear to be popular.

>>143437967
>why Habanero didn't sell

Did you like drop the show at episode 8 or something? It's blatantly obvious why that anime tanked.

>>143425025
>First flop in a decade
>What is Tamako Market?
>What is Kyoukai no Kanata?
>what is Amabri?
>what is Nichijou?
Need I continue?

>>143439536
Tamako and Kyoukai were both 4-5k per volume shows. Amaburi was even higher I believe.

>>143421240
>Bungo stray dogs is a flop guise
Why do I ever listen to /a/

>>143439882
Fujos love the voice actor live events. Just wait for vol 2 sales.

>>143422147
Kabaneri will probably reach the estimates eventually, this is just first week.

Even then, it's anime original so the studio is getting much more money than they would get from an adaptation

>>143421240

>*6,880 Kabaneri
>*9.7k Kabenari

Biba was a mistake

>>143440018
Nope, Kabaneri's rank is dropping like a rock. It'll maybe get to 7K and then never rank again.

>>143440209
A huge fucking mistake. What the hell were they thinking?

>>143422932
Would Mekakushit Actors be considered a hit this year?

>>143440449
It wasn't really a hit when it aired considering it was like 3000 yen per volume.

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>*37位/*37位 (**1,357 pt) [*,*35予約] 16/06/29 三者三葉 Vol.1(初回生産限定版)(イベントチケット優先販売申込み券付き) [Blu-ray]

Well, it took until the actual day of its release, but the Sanshas finally broke into top 50 Amazon rankings.

>>143440493
At one episode per volume though.

>>143421240
>Gakusen Toshi Asterisk 2nd Season
>Anne Happy
>Hundred
Must suck for thier fans.

>*2,826 Bakuon!!
Much lower than I expected, honestly.

>>143440430
"We have absolutely no idea how to advance the plot, so lets just throw this MADMAN in here. Hey he's really crazy so it all makes sense now, right guys?"

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>>143440430
They were thinking that simply having more dumb Kabane to defeat won't make for an impactful finale. So they devised a human villain that is intelligent and sadistic to make up for it.