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You're telling me Future Trunks could beat Dabura on his

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You're telling me Future Trunks could beat Dabura on his own? FUCKING BULLSHIT. How do they get away with pulling this shit out of their ass?
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>>143336178
Trunks was stronger than Vegeta at the end of the Cell Games.

The real question is what exactly is going to be Whis and Beerus's point in this arc
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>>143336432
>The real question is what exactly is going to be Whis and Beerus's point in this arc

Comedic relief
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>>143336178
God this series attracts so many retards.
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>>143336178
Gohan defeated Dabura and he was weaker than he was in Cell saga. So Trunks defeating Dabura and Babidi wasn't really unrealistic.
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Why is Toei so fucking shit?
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>>143336178
It literally said that he followed the kai's plan and succeeded.

not only that, he is not retarded enough to play around like goku and vegeta
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>>143336178

Goku specifically states that Trunks can go SSJ2

Despite the animators fucking up both Trunks and Goku's hair when they actually transform
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>>143336806
>why
Next to no regard for QC
Shittiest deadlines in the industry
Underpays the worst
Bad pipeline organization
No communication with the animators
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Was super saiyan 3 supposed to exist?
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>>143336624
Gohan never defeat Dabura though. Their battle were more or less even until it got interrupted.
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>SSJ2 Trunks
>Dabura/Babidi

Trunks is fine, he's the one Saiyan that doesn't get all cocky and prideful. He has a couple instances of it at best. Against Frieza/Cold, which they were no match for him in any way in the first place, and as USSJ against Cell and solely because his power was greater than Cell's but he didn't realize the speed drawback.
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>>143336999
Are you retarded?
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>>143337106
Pride anon, he'll swell with pride. Like when Vegeta inevitably walks in on Trunks/Mai fucking and he has to go tell Bulma about how their son is a man now and how proud he is.
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>>143337088
He didn't defeat him but Gohan was still stronger and had the upper hand
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>>143337163
Meant to reply to this >>143337074 from the last thread, I'm retarded.
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>>143336178
He can into SSJ2 in Super.

It can only be assumed that he continued training after he got back to the future and reached SSJ2 before Babidi and Dabura showed up.

Full blown SSJ2 who hasn't been slacking like Gohan was>Dabura

Basically, there's no reason that Trunks couldn't learn to do what he saw Gohan do in the Cell games before they showed up. So there's no reason he couldn't beat Dabura.
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>>143337133
literally in the episode.
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>>143337163
>>143337199
Obligatory

Also he'd probably tell his past self to grow stronger so that he will always be able to protect her.
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>>143337106

Trunks is the smartest Saiyan of the whole DBZ Universe.

>Kills Freezer in seconds

>Kills Cold with 2 hits

>Sees the androids in Dr.Gero's basement
>Instant Masenko

>Goes back to the future
>Beats A18 with 1 ki blast in her face
>Next second puches A17 in his stomach and finishes him with a Ki blast

>Some time later Cell attacks him
>2 hits and big Ki blast to finish him
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>>143337219
See this is what happens when the hero actually listens to people, exploits weaknesses, and doesn't make his enemies stronger on purpose. Future Trunks is the best Z-fighter hands down.
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>>143337052
What?
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>>143337219
>Future Trunks killed Future Dabura
>Towa is gonna have some shenanigans in Xenoverse 2

Oh boy.

How the fuck do multiple timeline deaths even work? Is there a separate afterlife for other timelines as well? I imagine there would have to be.
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>>143336432
>The real question is what exactly is going to be Whis and Beerus's point in this arc

they seem to respect the god hierarchy, so someone that outranks them will get them to not interfere. maybe black himself.
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>>143336178

I know it was supposed to just be a little minor flashback but

>No sword fight between Trunks and Dabura
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>>143337245
>>143337163
>Bulma, you won't believe it, our son has become a young prince
>I AM THE KING OF SAIYANS NOW, OUR SON HAS TAKEN MY FORMER PLACE AS PRINCE, THE PRIDE I FEEL AT THIS VERY MOMENT
>That's nice Vegeta, now go take out the trash
>>143337249
Don't forget he tried powering up to max to finish off Perfect Cell too.
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>>143337315
Yeah what the fug man? The only two swordsmen and they fug it up.
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>>143337315
I was so excited to finally learn how trunks stopped buu that I completely overlooked this. Now am anger
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>>143337332
>Bulma, you won't believe it, our son has become a young prince
>I AM THE KING OF SAIYANS NOW, OUR SON HAS TAKEN MY FORMER PLACE AS PRINCE, THE PRIDE I FEEL AT THIS VERY MOMENT
>That's nice Vegeta, now go take out the trash
You know, part of me actually likes Vegeta having dorky moments like that. Makes him more humane.
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>>143337163
>walks in on Trunks/Mai fucking
Still can't get over this pairing. Isn't Mai like a decade older than bulma?
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>>143337219
>>143337264
Future Trunks has always been the pragmatic one who kills when he can and doesn't let his enemies powerup like goku and vegeta does.
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>>143337315
>>143337361

It was a flasback of the final moments. There's still hope the manga explains it better (like the Goku vs Hit fight).
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>>143337407
Same, imagine if Raditz and Nappa had survived. We'd have old ass grandpa Nappa talking about the good ole days and laughing at whipped Vegeta. We'd have Uncle Raditz trying to keep up with Goten and Pan and having babysitter banter with Piccolo.
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>>143337464
That might actually happen with Abridged Nappa, seeing as he's alive.
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>>143337281
Maybe this guy who has the title of God King.
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>>143336178
Dabura was not even that strong. i believe goku said he was even weaker than perfect.
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>>143337409
If you noticed, but Mai is also incredibly more childish now than she was in DB (where she was usually the more competent of the Pilaf goons and sometimes also the straight man)
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>>143337527
Power on level of Cell, but without regeneration hax.
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>>143337527
"perfect cell"
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>>143336178
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjL8YVSewPc
Because future trunks one of the few saiyans, if not the only one who actually goes for the kill when he can?

i thought that his thing.
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>>143337527
Definitely weaker, Kid Gohan ssj2 would one hit him like a Cell Junior
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>>143337515
Probably will, if they even remember that honestly. Man I'd love to see Raditz/Piccolo, Team Babysitter.

>Well you tell me how to train Saiyans then greenman
>Hey Mr. Piccolo is a great teacher, he taught me as a kid
>Why do you call him Mister nephew and not me, I am the better trainer here!
>But Mr. Piccolo taught me to be strong
>Piccolo just looks at Raditz and shakes his head in disappointment
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>>143337249
The harsh realities he has faced in his desolate future have taught him to fight to win rather than to fight for pride or fight with compassion for his opponent.

He's lived his whole life knowing that messing up and dying because you weren't giving it your all is actually the end in this circumstance. Unlike in the main timeline where the Dragon Balls render death a mere annoyance and the fighters can afford to mess around without any permanent repercussions.
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>>143337527
Vegeta was the one that said Gohan was weaker than we he fought Cell, which would imply Dabura was weaker than that.
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>>143337249
>Trunks is the smartest Saiyan of the whole DBZ Universe.

I like Trunks, but man Trunksfags are stupid.
How does the fact that Goku and Vegeta care more about getting a good fight make them stupid? Trunks just has different values to them because of the environment he grew up in.

If you want to talk about actually stupidity remember how Trunks failed completely at trying to surpass the regular Super Saiyan form. Nether Goku or Vegeta fell into this trap.

Also
>Sees the androids in Dr.Gero's basement
>Instant Masenko
Almost nuking his allies is some how smart?
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>>143337249
Trunks is a fucking badass
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>>143337409
I would argue based on my observations that getting reverted into a child may have had an affect on her mind (the other two as well).

Her personality and behaviour has become very much that of a child now, probably because her brain was reverted into a child's brain, leaving multiple key areas under-developed until she grows up again.
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>>143337675
Goku and Vegeta are better natural fighters with instinct than Trunks is. Trunks is definitely smarter in the "Don't let your opponent power up and get stronger just so you can have a good fight, who cares if they destroy Earth, we have the Dragonballs!"
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>>143337515
It won't to any noticeable degree, since people got pissed that they deviated from Nappa actually dying as it is.
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>>143337420
that oh face
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>>143337633
Or if they ever tackle Super that is.
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>>143337749
>people actually got pissed at a silly joke in an abridged series

I wish I was surprised, but I'm not.
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>>143337675
didn't future trunks literally got schooled because he is more to raw power than techniques?
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>>143337675

Vegeta and Goku have a better fighting sense but people call Trunks smart because he takes a much more practical approach to the threat at hand, he's had to watch many people die, both strangers and those very close to him.

He doesn't take a rampaging villain as a fun new challenge, he takes them serious and does everything he can to stop them.
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>>143337788
He does, as >>143337728 pointed out. Trunks only ever had to rely on raw power to survive, he never really had the chance to learn proper techniques and fighting.
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>>143337725
I wonder if loli mai's pussy reverted to being fresh
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So are we gonna start getting lanky cat food blue haired Future Trunks in video games instead?
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>>143337675

That was the only time and only because he was an amateur fighter.

To be fair he was doing what he always do: Fight with full power.

For god's sake he even tried to attack Cell when he was transforming.

God he even blasted Vegeta away when he was helping Cell to absorb 18.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fS80eaPKXs
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>>143337728
SSgrade3 was more of a common sense issue for Trunks than a lack of natural fighting instinct.


>Don't let your opponent power up and get stronger just so you can have a good fight
But Goku and Vegeta want to fight(hell it's in their blood) that doesn't make them any dumber. If all they cared about was saving the world and they still made that mistake I would see your point.

>>143337835
>he never really had the chance to learn proper techniques and fighting.
Gohan trained him anon.
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Anyone else like how goku is getting the shit beat out of him every fucking arc in Super?
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>>143337944
Gohan is a jobber
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>>143338025
Well it looks like they are gonna make Goku job to his own self
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>>143338025
He staying cocky so I'm still pretty pissed. He's no longer the good guy, he's more like an infinitely happy bastard that has everything going his way.
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>>143336711 #
>So this isn't technically aint pedophilia right?

It's not pedophilia.

Because:

1.Trunks is shocked here to find a loli version of his Mai still safe and sound. Whatever feelings he has for Mai, he has them with the Mai of his timeline

2.Yeah, Current Mai is chronologically 42, but by all means phisycally and mentally, a child. So her and Kid Trunks is not pedo

Anyway, this is indeed an odd yet interesting pairing, that's how Tori rolls.

I mean, I'm still whathefucking with Towa and Mira.
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>>143337876
>That was the only time

>Sees the androids in Dr.Gero's basement
>Instant Masenko
Almost nuking his allies is some how smart?

Pic related

>he was an amateur fighter.
Really? You reaching.
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>>143337944
And when he started training Trunks he himself was pretty much just a teenager that was forced to fight for his life, not a master and teacher.
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>>143337675
Where the fuck do you get scans this good for the manga? I can't find anything that isn't ass after the Frieza saga.
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>>143336520
hello retard
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>>143337944
>that doesn't make them any dumber.

>"We could wish shenron to tell us where's Dr.Gero's basement"
>"NO!!! I WANT A GOOD FIGHT AGAINST THE ANDROIDS THIS SUPER SAIYAN FROM THE FUTURE SAID THAT WILL KILL EVERYBODY!"


>"IF I WAS PERFECT I WOULD RAPE YOU IN SECONDS!"
>"Well, go absorb the other android, I will wait"


>"Arf arf arf arf, well Son Goku, now that you surrender...who will fight against me?"
>"My 9 years old son Gohan will fight you....but EAT THIS FUCKING SENZU BEAN SO MY WHOLE COMBAT WAS FUCKING POINTLESS"


Goku and Vegeta are literally retarded.
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>mfw they openly discuss Vegeta being the one who kills BLack
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>>143338157
just like golden frieza amirite
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>>143336178
>Kais think Goten is the chosen one like gohan in current timeline
>Take him away from hell hole earth to live a pampered life full of Kai stuff and training, consideres himself a kai instead of a human/saiyan
>He comes to earth to face Dabura but Trunks already killed him
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>143338096

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Dragon Ball (Akira Toriyama)
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https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=643757

>>143338084
How does this negate the fact that Gohan trained him? Also he had a year to train after wards as well.
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Hercule will save the day as usual
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>>143338157
At this point Vegeta admitted Goku's superiority and claimed to respect him like 2 or 3 times, him returning to rivalry and being a dick is getting old.
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>>143338207
>Hercule

Who?
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>>143338083
>two androids fucked up his whole world
>another one that could possibly be as strong as them
>oh shit I better wait for them to activate it.

Not a smart move indeed for Trunks just to do something like that, but it was more of him panicking at the prospect of more androids.
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>>143338157

>Goku does it again
>They make a scene at the end of it with vegeta screaming "Can't I get to do anything!?" and everyone laughs and the camera pans off into the distance
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>>143338222
Mr satan kun sama chan des you weeb
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>>143338061
He got his ass kicked by
-Beerus
-Golden Freiza
-Hit
-Future himself

Hes also lost the first three of those fights aswell.

Who wants to bet he loses against Black in the end also?
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>>143337518
Just when is the fuck is this guy going to appear?
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>>143338061

That's clearly what will happen when retarded Goku fights Black in normal stance. Black has nothing to do against SSBlue.
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>>143338207
>>143338207

Hades will impede his plans.
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>>143338136
And? All your points only show their lust for battle. Were you expecting them to be Superman or something?
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>>143338206
>How does this negate the fact that Gohan trained him?
That he can't teach well, Trunks got the basics and few techniques, but he had no actual good master that would make a good fighter out of him, teach him how to read opponents, measure his own capabilities and so on.
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>>143338252
>Goku jobs to himself
>Cell was part Goku
>Goku jobbed to Cell
>Gohan killed Cell
T-There's still hope, right? RIGHT?!
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>>143337351
I mean
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>>143338061

This is gonna be before SSJB

Black will get spanked and retreat in 51, it's pretty obvious
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>>143338309

No, I'm only saying those things wouldn't happen if Trunks was the one in charge. He sees an enemy, he kills it. He doesn't wait so he can power up or he can activate more enemies.

Pretty sure Cold had 2 more transformations but Trunks killed him before he could blink.
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>>143336806
>Saying Toey is shit
>Posts a Bones anime
Nigger have you been keeping up with Boku no Hero Academia lately? Because that shit has fucking QUALITY moments every episode that are almost DBS level of crap.

But well on the other side there IS parts that look like the vid you posted sometimes at least, probably made by the same animators that worked on scenes like that
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>>143337857
That would imply she wasn't an ever-virgin.
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>>143338333

Why doesn't Beerus just energy ball him to death or something?
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>>143338418

>Beerus
>Caring about something
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>>143338312
>That he can't teach well, Trunks got the basics and few techniques
Super Saiyan,Masenko and he was able to kill Frieza in seconds. Seems like Gohan did a good job to me.
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>>143338157
If they let Vegeta kill Black then I would 100% hard.

But that is too good to be true.
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>>143338418
he doesn't give a shit unless Black threatens his food supply
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>>143338427

If Goku Black kills Goku, he will then kill off all the other z fighters
then earth
Earth houses delicious food

There he cares now.
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What if this is the Gohan/Trunks arc part II?

Gohan and Trunks train and defeat him together, maybe fusion.
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>>143338456

>Goku gets to beat purple clone Vegeta

>Goku also gets to beat black clone Goku

I just know this is gonna happen
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>>143338393
>Posts a Bones anime
Still better than anything in DBS
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>>143338393
I hate how retards like you have distorted the meaning of QUALITY.
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Black may be slightly stronger than goku ssj3, shouldn't goku ssjb stomp black?
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>>143338556
I hate buzzwords in general.
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>>143338542
>hero academia
>better than anything
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>>143338542
Did you even fucking read my post you absolute autistic faggot?

>there IS parts that look like the vid you posted sometimes at least, probably made by the same animators that worked on scenes like that

Posting the best looking scene on the whole anime just proves that but you should also acknowledge that there is some shit looking scenes a lof ot times
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>>143338583

>Powerful fighter than can give him the rush he has been looking for since he fought purple
>People want him to go full power and crush his opponent.

What would be the point in having a fight if it ends that quickly?
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>>143338583
i am confused.

Is Future Trunks referring that base form Black is above ssj3 tier.

Then if he transforms then what would his power be?
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Is this Black's backstory?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Egb4paCoPM&t=1m15s
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>>143338616
Yes, it's better than DBS
Well anything is better than DBS
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>>143338621

Having a fight about skill and not pure power level?
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>>143337219
This is what happens when someone actually cares about saving people instead of being a dumb nigger only wanting to fight
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>>143338291

>they fight next episode
>Black has the upper hand until half the episode
>last half Goku goes SSG
>Black flees
>couple of filler epis
>Black's identity and history epi
>Black achieve super sayan
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>>143338456
when it happens
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>>143338620
>probably made by the same animators that worked on scenes like that
Well you're wrong.

https://sakuga.yshi.org/post?tags=my_hero_academia+
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>>143338663
so no one is going to point out the fact that chichi has the green potara earrings?

confirmed: black = chichi x goten
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>>143338666
>still comes to the threads every week
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>>143338747
>black punishes every saiyan who didnt study and instead trained
you might be onto something
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>>143338699
I honestly doubt black with go SS

the way he has talked so far, he isn't a Sayin.
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>>143338647
he's mystic goten, same way that mystic Gohan was as strong as SSJ3 Goku without transforming.
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>>143338747

Those are silver and green

Black has gold and green

Are there any pictures with chichi having gold and green?
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>>143338699
Black will achieve an exclusive form known as SSJ White. That sound like the kind of stuff Toriyama finds funny
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Who wants it to be related to ChiChi forcing Goten to study?

He finds some lovecraftian shit in a book and BOOM + future shenanigans = Black
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>>143338838
Black always refers to Trunks as "You saiyans"... "Today's the day I finally kill you, Saiyan!"...

Chichi refers to goku, vegeta and her kids as saiyans, etc.

Maybe she's finally done putting up with their shit. Just sayian...
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>>143339017

I'm just pointing out the difference in their earrings is all

At least from that picture
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>>143338853

>next enemy will have white hair

Maybe Black's earring is from a kai he killed, then that green kai will see Black, take out one of his earrings and fuse with him.
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>all these dubfags calling it mystic instead of ultimate itt
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Post the sexy cat gods.
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>>143339144
>weeb thinking his opinion matters
Also, mystic sounds cooler.
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>>143338258
He's already here

he's fused with Black


Note that black can go Super Sayian White
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>>143339175

There is nothing mystiic about gohan in that form, so it just sounds stupid.
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>>143336432
He never stopped training and Dabura was as strong as Cell, so SS2 could probably beat him.
As for Whies and Beerus, they are always comedic relief
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Anyone find the whole Beerus and Whis being stupefied by how amazing Earth food to be an ass pull?

Other planets probably have just as tasty food as them but we are expected to believe that normal convenience like sausages, noodles and cake is the most amazing tasting food in the universe? Really?
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>>143336432
>The real question is what exactly is going to be Whis and Beerus's point in this arc
The same thing they did during the Revival of f and U7VsU6 arc, nothing.

Its not their jobs to do anything, and Beerus will only keep Bulma alive so she can give him food.

He literally doesn't care what happens to Earth.
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>>143338248
>Using the original name is for weebs.
>Calling others weebs on /a/
worst bait
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Trunks isn't that smart. He just watched Vegeta let Imperfect Cell do his thing until it was too late. Chances are, he's just going to watch Goku get his ass beat, then try to assist when it's too late. Instead of stabbing Black in the back while he's preoccupied with fighting Goku.
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>>143339380
>Implying Trunks attacks would do anything to Black even when Black is fighting Goku.
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>>143339370
We're on American 2chan, faggot. Deal with ti.
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>>143339366
>He doesn't care about what happens to Earth
He just wished Earth back in another universe because it's fucking GOAT
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>>143339409
*it
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>>143339357
>ass pull
Retard pls
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>>143339380

This idiot. Why would he help Goku fight Black? He knows from past experience that Goku fights on his own and so Trunks will not interfere. Did you not hear Vegeta grill him about no having pride? What pride is there to surprise attack an opponent fighting someone 1v1.
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>>143339428
He wished earth back for U6 because he likes his brother and wanted Champa to own him a favor, which will likely come into play during the 12 universes tournament.
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>>143339357
It's just a running gag turned into a plot point.
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>>143336178

This episode had some QUALITY again.

This is beyond pathetic. Even I can draw better than that!
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>>143339357
Who knows, maybe salt doesn't exist in tons of other planets.
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>next episode is Goku getting Blacked

Man, Goku gets his ass beaten a lot in Super.
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>>143336178

Haven's seen the episode yet, so pardon my ignorance:

Wouldn't have trunks have been like 8 during the Buu saga? Did they explain this?

However, if it was years after he came back for some reason, he had plenty of time to become strong enough, just like gohan did during the cell saga, and just like goku and vegeta did during the timeskip before the buu saga.

It wouldn't even register on the list of places where power levels aren't consistant.
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>>143339497

They even fucked up the SSJ2 hair which pissed off my inner and outer autist

Judging by the preview, the animation is way better in episode 50 though
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>>143339547
He uses ki blasts to destroy the spit, look at it closely before you shitpost
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>>143336432
>The real question is what exactly is going to be Whis and Beerus's point in this arc

Sitting back and watching peasants pretend they're strong. I'd love to see Black Goku go after Beerus and failing miserably.
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>>143339529
>Wouldn't have trunks have been like 8 during the Buu saga? Did they explain this?
Babadi and Dabura came later then they did in the Prime timeline
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>>143339547

Nigga is clearly using Ki to block it

Just look at the OP's picture
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>>143339581
Nah Black can't beat Goku and the gang

Each enemy has been approaching Beerus's level with Hit and Goku x20 actually frightening Beerus and Champa.

So Beerus and Whis have to do something this round
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>>143339529
With Gohan not only dead, but unable to reach Super Saiyan 2, it took way longer for Babidi to find a suitable source of energy to awaken Buu. With no Vegeta to get Majin'd, Trunks was able to beat him fairly quickly and avoid the entire ordeal.
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Will Piccolo ever be relevant again? Or is he just Goku's replacement for all the husband stuff that Goku should be doing in the first place?
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>>143339357

Earthlings are already shit fighters compared to pretty much most of the villains. Do you not want Earth to be good at doing anything?
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>>143339014
>ChiChi forcing Goten to study is the reason Goten snapped and became Black
You might be on point here.
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>>143339655
his probably gonna be supervising Future Trunks and Gohan training.
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>>143339655
Piccolo killed Goku, raised his kid, is now raising his kid's kid, and reconciled with his old god self.

He has already done everything he wanted in life, so he's pretty much done.
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>>143339749
^This

Just let Piccolo sit around and enjoy life.
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>>143339655

I have a tiny hope because he's Tori's favorite character.

Perhaps he will turn into a Super Namekian God Super Namekian.
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>>143339781
>Let everyone who's not Goku enjoy the peaceful life.

But that makes for a really boring show.
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>>143339801
>Tori's favorite character.
Wrong that's Jaco.
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>>143339831
>Implying its just Goku, and not Vageta also.
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>>143339838
Good taste
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>>143339838

He said it in an interview but I think that was long before he came up with Jaco.
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>>143337755

Checked
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>>143337755
>>143337788
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Being angry about Dragonball is a really big sign that you should grow up
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>Black introduces himself to Trunks as 'Son Goku'
>Black "destroyed a number of planets and civilizations" before coming to Earth
>Says he's killing all Earthlings for the "sake of justice"
>Black has slightly different eyes and a lighter build than Goku
I think it has to be more than just some random impersonating Goku for shits and giggles, and considering the seemingly inconsequential physical differences between the two, I think it's more than someone possessing Goku's body. He was already causing destruction through the universe before he came to Earth, so destroying Earth/the Saiyans wasn't his primary objective: he could've easily just destroyed the planet and been done with it, but that he's gone down to systematically kill everyone makes it seem like there's something more personal about it to him. He also knows the Kamehameha, and since it's not a move Future Trunks really ever uses, I'm thinking he must've seen it before he came to Future Earth.
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>>143339655
>Basically raises Gohan
>Goes shopping with Chi Chi and runs errands for her
>Babysits Pan to the point where he knows every single detail about her likes and dislikes.

The only member of the Son family he hasn't really interacted with in a while is Goten. But other than that, he's already the Father of the family in all but name.

By this point, if he had reproductive organs I think Chi Chi would be carrying his offspring inside her. Goku's lucky that he's an asexual plant. Not that I think he would care too much if that were to happen anyway.
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Vegeta: "YOU TURNED YOUR BACK? WHERE IS YOUR PRIDE AS A SAIYAN TRUNKS!!?"

Vegeta you are unbelievable. The same guy who said sensu beans were a crutch for a weak but used it multiple times. The same guy who stolen Goku's kills and killed defenseless opponent. The same guy who knocked out Goku when he was going to give you a sensu bean.

The walking hypocrite wants to talk about pride to his son? Fuck outta here faggot.
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>>143339948
Holy shit, I've just noticed that Chichi has Piccolo on a tight leash. I think she might be the most dangerous woman in the universe. Got Goku and Piccolo on call.
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>>143339781
This. Guy is finally grown tired of staring into the wilderness and at rocks and decided to be a "family man" even though its not his family.
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>>143339948
>Polyamorous relationship with a genderfluid asexual
SO PROGRESIVE
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how did the f trunks create an alternate timeline the first time he came to the past in dbz? Shouldnt time travel only change the future itself without creating a whole different universe? Like when in todays episode the rabbit with his bleached friend showed that if you change something in the past it may affect future dramatically. E.g. trunks comes back to the past to warn about cell or black, therefore everyone makes sure they wouldnt even exist in the future anymore, defeating the cause of trunks coming back to them.
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>>143339938
It might be interesting if Black were some divine punishment for a race using time travel, but that doesn't explain it taking on Goku's appearance. It's also a bit odd that Whis cites the butterfly effect when talking about the dangers of time travel when Bulma's time machine pops up alternate timelines instead.
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http://www.viz.com/read/chapters/digital/dragon-ball-super-chapter-1/4197?read=1
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>>143336432
peanut gallery
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>>143340093

>rabbit with his bleached friend

49 episodes in and doesn't know the names of two prominent characters.

You might legitimately be retarded, not even joking.
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>>143336178
Not to mention why Babidi and Dabura were on Earth in the first place. They only showed up in Goku and friends' universe timeline because there were multiple strong saiyans on the planet and not just Trunks. And Trunks alone wouldn't have enough energy to revive Majin Buu.
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>>143339948
>if he had reproductive organs

Makes me wonder if he's going to eventually "give birth" to a child? Namekians live much longer than humans or saiyans, but they aren't immortal.
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>>143340192
Not really, no.
It was implied they were there for a long time.
When the two stooges drained Gohan's energy, Babidi assumed they drained it from a ton of people
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>>143340093
It's the cheapest way to avoid time-travelling paradoxes.
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>>143338456
>that quality drawing of vegtas face
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>>143340093
Its explained in Xenoverse that the time machine has a flaw where it created alternate timelines when it goes back into the past, thus keeping each of the exiting timelines separate.

There were like 4 separate timelines during the Cell arc.
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>>143340102
There are some big hints about a serious dimensional punch going on.

>Whis casually mentioning the Omni King already destroyed 6 universes
>Whis explaining the dangers of time travel and why even gods don't dare to do it
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>>143339357
That's the entire point. Its a gag. All other planets have shit food. Champa and Beerus had fucking competitions about finding the best food. Some ultra super mega rare delicacy Champa found was just a large chicken egg.
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>>143339202

>God fused with a witch from thousands of years ago performs a magic ritual for 24h straight
>Literally just walks around and then sits reading porn/falling asleep
>Makes Gohan the strongest character instantly
>Not mystical

Anon pls
>
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I'm eager to see what role Beerus is going to play in this arc. I don't think Black will be anywhere near his strength though, as some anons are trying to suggest. I see him acting like he did in RoF, just sitting back and taking a neutral position. At least until Black does something to draw the attention of Zeno.
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>>143339749
I want him to reconcile with demon king piccolo in hell, and get put on god level.
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>>143340311
Isn't the typical sci-fi setting? Scientists playing with forces they don't understand and can't control?
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>>143337675
>How does the fact that Goku and Vegeta care more about getting a good fight make them stupid?
Because it gets people killed every time. EVERY TIME. Future Trunks' timeline is what happes when Z Fighters are left to their own devices, heart virus or no. The earth would be a wasteland under their protection if not for the dragon balls
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>>143339977
He only starts talking like that after Trunks reveals that Black killed Future Bulma, then shuts up about it when he thinks Future Bulma was asking him to kill Black. I think it's another "MY BULMA" thing, where he was more upset that Trunks didn't protect or avenge her (or at least die trying). When he inevitably faces off with Black (whether or not he wins), I'm sure he'll talk about how he's going to avenge his wife, or Black will say something about killing Bulma that 'triggers' Vegeta.
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Kinda mad how they're not mentioning that Future trunks isn't actually from the future, but from an alternate timeline, which is also the future.
They should really call him Alt-F4 trunks, with Alternate referring to a different timeline, F referring to future, and 4 referring to how many different time lines there are now mentioned, God dammit trunks..
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>>143339977
Vegeta is a space samurai. Once a samurai, always a samurai, even after the Meiji Restauration.
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>>143339998
goku no piccolo
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Look at that expression full of pride for his son. Goku will never have one.
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>>143339749
>raised his kid
>raised his kid's kid
Didn't know he was into NTR.
What a cuck he is. DAMN
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>>143336178
Who killed him in our timeline? Remember that trunks was stronger than vegeta.
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>>143340690

Forgetting about when Gohan transformed into a SSJ for the first time

Forgetting about SSJ2 Gohan kicking the shit out of Cell

Forgetting about when he turned into Mystic Gohan.
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>>143340732
>my wife's son
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>>143340219

I don't think he can give birth because King Piccolo made him a warrior race. I might be wrong.
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>>143340631
Well, he is from the future, just not the future of the timeline the series takes place in.

Future Trunks when Gohan was killed probably had the same age as Trunks during the epilogue.
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>>143340765
Stop living in the past
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>>143336178
Why is whis bitching about not traveling back in time when he was doing it during Frieza's resurrection? What a hypocrite.
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>>143340732
So Goku cucked Piccolo with Chi-Chi?
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>>143340767
piccolo a cuck
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>>143339801
>Perhaps he will turn into a Super Namekian God Super Namekian.
I want him to bring back Evil King Piccolo just to forcibly absorb him and go true nameless namekian. It's the only way I can see him getting near their level now
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>>143337219
Trunks so based. Only fucking Saiyan who trains to make sure he is always prepared to instantly kill bad guys when they show up.

Other Saiyans just want to spar with villains or not train at all
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>>143340850
a simple do over.
It's a repeat not a change
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>>143340759
Buu killed Dabura.
Gohan's fight with him was interrupted but they were more or less even. And Gohan is stated to be less powerful than during the Cell Games.
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>>143340759
majin bu killed dabura
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>>143340951
Teen gohan wasn't a jobber but every other iteration of him was
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>>143340560
>Because it gets people killed every time.
Really? Because Goku sparing Vegeta saved they're asses on Namek. Same with Piccolo when Raditz came along.

>Future Trunks' timeline is what happes when Z Fighters are left to their own devices,
How exactly?
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>>143340850
Whis is the only one who can do it right and his limit is one minute, without creating alternative timelines or causing a butterfly effect, despite he's the most powerful being on the universe
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>>143340850
He does say that controlling time is the territory of the Gods. While Whis is not a god himself I guess he's considered to be on the same league.
Also the 3 minutes time rewind Whis does and going years in the past and creating alternate timelines like Bulma's Time Machine does are probably different things.
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>>143337432
the fight between goku and hit in the manga was rushed as hell
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>>143339998
>Got Goku and Piccolo on call

Mostly Piccolo, since Goku tends to just instant transmission out of there whenever something mildly interesting is happening.
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>>143341022
mangafags BTFO
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>>143337409
I feel the same anon but in /a/, there're a lot of scum who fap on loli so they don't care just like japaneses
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>>143341018
Yes he is. He's more of a god than Beerus is. Beerus doesn't even know the language of the gods.
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Predictions that wont happen cause Toei is too dumb

>Wiss and Bills are talking about how someone can screw the timelines when traveling in time.
>Probably they will focus on timelines repercutions.
>Black and Green Kaio are defeated, but screw the timelines before they die
> Future Trunks sacrifices himself using the time machine in order to mend the timelines since he already lost everything in his timeline.

I guess best saiyan cant have nice things after all.
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Wrong age Trunks, wrong age
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>>143341231
Just the right age, actually.
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Why is the "Black" guy always the villain?
It's not fair. SUCH RACISM
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>>143339998
Bulma regularly shit talks two deities and can get them to overlook pretty much anything by giving them Baskin Robbins or some shit.
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>>143339357
Old Namek didn't have sea water. Beerus/Whis probably just have never tasted salt.
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>>143339977
He didn't understand the situation
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>>143341231

Yea, she's too old
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>>143340494
There was a video game where he did that to fight Buu.
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>>143341195
I dont get it why you fucks want FT to sacrifice himself to mend the timeline.
There are a lot of timelines/possibilities. There is fucking nothing to fix.

>>143341267
Post Supreme Kaio of time plz
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>>143341286
every woman in this show is a cunt except mai.
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>>143340850
Because he said time travel is a god-only thing. While Whis may not be "a god", he is in the domain of them. Also he's the only one who can do it right without creating alternate universes, unlike Trunks
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>>143340992
>Really? Because Goku sparing Vegeta saved they're asses on Namek.
After vegeta killed a good chunk of the world's population, sure

>Same with Piccolo when Raditz came along.
Possibly the only exception, but even then that was someone Goku spared during Dragonball and not DBZ and it led piccolo to kill himself for gohan leading to the namek saga
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>>143341195
>Future Trunks teams up with the supreme kai of time in order to fix the timelines
>Xenoverse is now canon
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>>143341351
I can do that, but why?
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>>143341231
Pls. You know F.Trunk will just encourage his past self to hit that even faster.
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>>143337268

Just consider them separate dimensions. In that respect they would indeed have their own afterlife. All trunks needs to do is get Goku to come to the future. Find the new namek homeworld and have them wish everyone back to life on FTrunks earth
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>>143341387
Didn't some future trunks concept/key art for this arc have him wearing a sweater that's identical to what his Xenoverse self wears under his jacket?
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>>143341212
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>>143341195
Nah too dark for DB

I imagine Goku will defeat Black

Black will retreat and become even stronger

>>143341231
The arc will end with Trunks in prison

also Whis is a bit of a hypocrite talking about how timetravel is bad
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>>143341471
he is not black
okay?
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>>143341405
Good, now do any of you fucks got that doujin of her? I was posted somewhere last week but im too lazy andd dumb to find it.
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>>143341270
>Staff Officer Black
>Black Star Dragon Balls
>Black Goku

you might be right
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>>143341511
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>>143341511
>He's not black
>Steals someone's power and image
Fooled me
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>>143341513
I don't know anything about a doujin, aside from the one short thing with TrunksxTowa where she was hardly involved.
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>>143341471
>also Whis is a bit of a hypocrite talking about how timetravel is bad
>>143341366
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>>143341366
but there are only 12 universes checkmate KYS
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>>143341378
>After vegeta killed a good chunk of the world's population, sure
That was Nappa and how does that change the fact that Vegeta's presences on Namek helped them a lot? Thus destroying you're argument.

>Possibly the only exception
No, try reading the sentence that came before it.

>Dragonball and not DBZ
Oh God not one of these, it's the same fucking series.
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>>143341617
But alternate universes are perfect as it does not screw the future. If anything Whis's time travel is the most worrisome
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>>143341387
>o no something in the timelines messed up
>the whole universe of time is doomed
>there's only one guy who can save it
>it's pic related
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>bad guy is black
nice job toriyama
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I wonder whats going to happen to Future Trunks world? According to what he said, there are very few people even alive in his timeline anymore since Black killed off most of them. I guess we can expect some shenanigans with the dragon balls.l
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BRACCKU
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>>143341716
>you're
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>>143340690
I always wanted that moment in Z, but at least happened in Super.
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>>143341717
Letting Gohan get to ssj2 level lead to the revival of Buu, which lead to Earth getting destroyed.

Besides, no one enforces time laws in dbs. Jaco isn't gonna do shit about it. Zeno didn't do shit to Whis when he did it. No one gave a fuck that Hit was making the universes die 0.1 faster each time he punches someone.
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>>143341951
your*

Better now?
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>>143341195
>Bills
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>>143341934
Super should have been set in Future Trunks world. He would have been the perfect MC with the depression and facing extinction in the face of impossible odds without dragonballs
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>>143340823
Is Trunks training, I mean the son he raised not the son Gohan raised? Is his daughter training? Because Gohan pretty much raised a well mannered kid that is stronger that everyone at her age.
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I'm absolutely sure at this point that Black is an agent of the Gods sent to destroy Trunks' timeline because of the butterfly effect Whis mentionned. Having someone in a time machine running around is probably too dangerous to let happen.
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I cant see black being stronger than SSJG

How will he beat Goku?
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>>143341751
are you sure it's not going to be the one and only undying broly over here
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>>143337876
>>143337675
Trunks is the best because he literally has no one to train or spar with him. Main timeline get gods to train and spar with each other.

Trunks had to learn to get to ss2 on his own. Everyone else gets everything going easy as fuck compared to trunks.

All he and the entire earth has is him. Just trunks. He is through first and last line of denfese.
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>>143342021
Go read Akame ga kill.
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>>143342081
He will turn into black smoke and go into Goku's lungs and suffocate him.
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>>143342063
Braccku

say it right please
it's a joke Evil Goku = Braccku
Tori is a genius
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>>143342081
He will escape and return when he's stronger
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>>143342123
nice buzzword
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>>143341717
Isnt creating more alternate universes worst than correcting ONE timeline?

>>143342019
I think Beerus was dubbed as Bills in the BoG movie for americunts and latincunts. Didnt see the movie yet

>>143341195
this fucker keep posting this crap every single time. Why do mods allow this shit. FT wont mend anything you tg fag. Shove that MTG lore in your disgusting ass.
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>>143342123
been there done that. I just can't get enough of torture and dead characters
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>>143342088
Oh shit, that Broly was actually pretty cleverly done.
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>>143342092
>he literally has no one to train or spar with him
He trained with a Kai.
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>>143342063
Then why not just blow up the planet? Black spent a year chasing Trunks trying to kill him specifically
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>>143342169
Depends if the multiverse is limited in space or if timelines can cross
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>>143342169
there's only 12 alternate universes
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>>143342169
Only latin dub, but in that place that kinda makes sense, on the part of pronnouncing Beerus' name.
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This story arc is fucking Chrono Cross bullshit. It's gonna have some dumb "time travel is bad and has consequences mmkay" message and Future Trunks will be at fault for all his troubles
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>>143342260
he did was he had to in order to survive.
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>>143342081
Goku is going to fight him at SSJ2, then when he is strong enough Goku is going to keep powering up until Black is at Super Cyan level. No need to thanks Goku.
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>>143342202
Black is evil Goku but he's still Goku. He wanted a good fight.
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>>143336432
they are gonna get involved as soon as its clear a kaio-shin is involved in this arc. for now they are just comedic relief and exposition.
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>>143342021
>you'll never see how Future Trunks and Mai met
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>>143342325
then black will kill goku and vegeta and blow up the planet and whis will say "ops, lets redo this so goku can kill him in time" and then he does a do over and restores everything to normal
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>>143338291
I think you guys are thinking about this the wrong way. Black is fighting ss2 and possibly more in his base form without a transformation.

What happens when this nigga starts learn learning to transform. Remember if he is goku, or worst if he's actually gotten, he will be learning how to transform extremely easy after seeing it
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>>143342202
Extra suffering potentiel, if I had to guess. Black seemed to make sure Trunks gets mentally crushed.
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wait
wait

wait
WAIT A FUCKING SECOND

WHY KAIOSHIN WANTED TO FREE MAJINBUU IF THEY COULD HAVE KILLED BABIBI FIRST?
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>>143337518

You understand that "God King" was someone who mistranslated "Kaioshin", right?

"Kaioshin" means "World King God".

There's nothing new happening here. It simply says that this character looks like a Kaioshin.
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>>143342452
What?
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>>143342392
On the contrary, I think we very much will. Probably episode 51
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If Black is an agent/god sent to punish trunks for messing with time travel then why is he so surprised from Trunks disappears and when he finds him in another timeline?
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>>143342493
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>>143342452
Stop typing like a fool, also the Kaioshin didn't want to free Buu.
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>>143342169
Sry, but i just cant report him for posting. It may be annoying, but the idea of FT mending the timelines sounds interesting.
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>>143342547

He knew it wouldn't be enough to free Buu on its own
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>>143342493
I think he's asking why Supreme Kai's plan involved letting Babidi get the energy to release Buu in the first place. In which case I agree it was a fucking retarded "plan".
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>>143342521
He has a time ring and he probably didn't know about the machine and expected trunks to travel through time in other ways, or maybe he doesn't know who created the extra time travel shit and is just a janitor to destroy the planet
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>>143340951

>Gohan weaker than the cell games

Really? When did they say that?
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>>143339470
You really believe that? He is just tsun for his brother
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>>143342547
He wanted to find Babidi's space ship to destroy Buu's eggs.
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A lot of the future shit isn't adding up.
Wouldn't the Earth have been destroyed regardless by the time any of this happened due to Beerus looking for the SSJ God, coming to the planet and not finding it would lead to him just nuking the place.
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>>143341471
>also Whis is a bit of a hypocrite talking about how timetravel is bad

Time Travel is bad when mortals do it.
Whis is a divine being, he can do whatever he wants.
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so what kind of power up do you want to see for Mirai Trunk?

>SSJ3
>SSJB
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>>143342620
Remember the Fast and Furious scandal? Pretty much that. Turns ou tlife imitates art.
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>>143342685
No Goku no Super Saiyan God
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>>143342521
He probably doesn't know the specifics of how he time travels, or is probably just executing orders. For all we know, Green Kai told him "Look, there's this saiyan guy here, go fuck him up, here's a ring if you want to make sure you don't lose him." and he answered "Ok."
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>>143342702
Super Cyan, SSJ3 is just plain ugly.
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>>143342682
>to destroy Buu's eggs
Kaioshins are really retards
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>>143342516
>>143342392
What is the point of seeing that when she is dead? It is just rubbing salt in the wound.
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>>143342697
On top of that, Whis only went back a few minutes. Trunks almost went 2 decades.
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>>143342685
Beerus is still sleeping
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>>143342452
>>143342547
>>143342620
>>143342673
So many idiots that need to reread the series.
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>>143342790
And Whis's time travel powers are actually legit, unlike Future Trunks who can only create alternate timelines with his "time machine".
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>>143342721
Goku got Beerus's attention in the first place because he defeated Frieza, which still happened in the Future timeline.
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>>143342773
To cheer him up, maybe to tell him to be strong and protect Earth because at the end all of his friends and family are going to wait for him in the afterlife, and how everyone is so proud of him. Maybe FGohan and FBulma are going to talk with him as well.
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>>143342838
I honestly don't get why DB threads has so many idiots like that. It is not like DB is even some complex series or anything.
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>>143342773
Character developement, Trunks accepting it and telling his past self to always protect Mai no matter what. Like he gives him a modified version of what Bulma told him, just with Mai as the subject.

Also never discount the fact that they will manage to get some Dragon Balls in his timeline, like give him a fucking space ship to get to Namek or something.
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>>143342909
yeah it contradicts itself every episode.
Inconsistent as fuck
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>>143339370
There is a difference between a fan of japanese shit and weeaboos.
Guess you already knew that though, shitposter.
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>>143342890
>Maybe FGohan and FBulma are going to talk with him as well.

How are they going to do that? It is impossible, he isn't even in the right timeline for that to happen. Future Trunks should just stay in the main timeline, his timeline is fucked beyond repair at this point.
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>>143342838
>>143342909
>hey gohan, let them suck your energy, we must find majinbuu


>in the future
>Trunks I'm Kaioshin, God of life and of my balls Babibi is coming to suck your energy, kill him
explain this
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How to Fix Future Trunks Timeline:

>Tell Goku to teach Trunks the Instant Transmission Technique

>Go to Kaioshin place to find where is New Namek

>Go to New Namek and ask Porunga to revive everyone in Earth, even Vegeta & friends

>Return to Earth

>????

>PROFIT
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>>143342956
>every episode.
Are you retarded? I said READ you fool.

>>143338206
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reminder that goku is going to job to nigger and then whis will violate the rules of time and space to give him a second chance
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>>143342773
Feels episode

Also, like he said, so we can see how they met
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>>143342928
I hope this means Kid Trunks is going to mature and train, I mean it looks like Toei dropped the ball with Goten.
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I wish Goten would just punch Chi Chi in the face or something or just fly off. Bitch is really starting to get annoying.
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>>143341356
>videl
>Launch
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>>143343062
goku can't teleport in places where there isn't somebody that he knows
why would trunks?
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>>143343078
Black is goten
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>>143343050
Different timelines so things play out differently.
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He can turn SSJ2, so yes. I don't see the issue. Gohan SSJ2 was on par with Dabura after 7 years without training.
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>>143342849
I'm starting to think Whis could go back further if he wanted to. Going back only a few minutes prevents timeline splits, and makes it far less likely that other gods will notice.
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>>143340993
I still don't understand why whis is so much stronger than beerus but acts like his slave. What exactly is whis?
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>>143336178
How is this hard to understand?
Gohan, weaker than against Cell, was strong enough to beat him, he just didn't take Dabura seriously.
Trunks, who was the third strongest z fighter in the Cell games, had 3 years after that to prep for Cell, clearly trained and increased power. We also know Trunks reached SS2.

Why is it surprising. Trunks wasn't THAT much weaker than Goku during the cell games, and in 7 years Goku went from SS to SS3
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>>143343093
literal who's right now
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>>143343030
If FMai can, why not FGohan and FBulma? Goku could stop being a prick and ask King Kai to let them talk with FTrunks.
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>>143342956
That doesn't make it complex. If anything people should be accustomed to inconsistency by now and roll with it.
I'm really tired of the Frodo infestation in every thread asking the same questions for the nth time.
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>>143343088
>Starting to.
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>>143342558
useless janitor
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>>143343146
>We also know Trunks reached SS2
?
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>>143343113
I bet Kaioshins are so retarded in the future, just like in the regular timeline, that probably they gave Braccku the potara earring
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>>143343224
he did it today you bitch
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>>143343154
Oh boy, when did FMai even speak with FTrunks as a ghost? We don't know what is going to happen in Episode 51, it could be just FTrunks remembering his time together with her.
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>>143343050
Are you stupid? We don't know how exactly FT's version went.

>hey gohan, let them suck your energy, we must find majinbuu
Yeah how were they going to find Buu genius?


>>143343062
Oh God, rewatch the start of RoF(movie)
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>>143340774
Well, he did fuse with kami
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>>143343050

Having just one good fighter (Trunks) It's different than having at least 10, maybe because of that.
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>>143343276
you really needed to find Buu in the first place?
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>>143343188
While she was always annoying, she seemed to have calmed down with the studying shit until last episode. Not it's like Gohan all over again. Probably worse because unlike Gohan, Goten has shown zero interest in being a bookworm.
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>>143340993
>he's the most powerful being on the universe

Where does Omni King come from though? Does he live in one of the universes or is there another realm just for him? Was that ever explained?
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>>143340219
He has eternal Youth thanks to King Piccolo. That's why he's an adult at the end of Dragon Ball despite being only 4.
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>>143337249
>Trunks is the only character aside of Goku who gets to kill main villains

>>143343250
His time ring is a Kai artifact too according to ep. 50 leaks.
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>>143343320
I haven't watched dragonball. what is the backstory of piccolo and kami and king piccolo?
and warrior race and all that?
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>>143343109
If Goten is Black and he was raised by Chi Chi in the woods, because she is too salty about Saiyan then he ends in Green Kaoishin's hands which make him dislike Saiyans and humans it would be fucking pottery. Chi Chi is the true villain of DB.
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>>143343224

Did you even watch the episode?
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>>143342956
>Inconsistent as fuck
Not really, most of the "Inconsistencies" are idiots that don't remember shit.
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i actually want Black to be Goten now
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>>143343350
>His time ring is a Kai artifact too according to ep. 50 leaks.
WOW
JUST WOW
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>>143343368
They're whatever toriyama wants them to be at the time.

But Piccolo is technically the reincarnation of King Piccolo, so he's affected by the eternal youth wish that King Piccolo made during Dragon Ball.
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>>143340192
Buu was hidden there, they said that. The Kai's never did anything because they feared disturbing him could set him free.

Also, Babidi could have drained people elsewhere first before coming there, and only needed a bit left from Trunks, or Trunks could have done it entirely himself

Also, they state that Gohan before getting weaker could have mopped the floor with Dabura, so a SSJ2 Trunks totally would have, especially if he fought like that
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>>143343303
Yes, unless you're saying they should have just nuked the Earth and called it a day.
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>>143343428
but isn't he the nameless namekian right now because he absorbed kami?
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>>143343304
The seed of the studying shit (for Goten anyway) was planted in the first episode of Super. ChiChi talks about sending Goten to more expensive schools after getting the prize money.

I agree, the whole things sucks, especially when you see Goten wants in on the fun and adventure. However, it seems like this arc has no purpose for Goten. They'll use any lame excuse they can to keep him out. For all the studying demands ChiChi has, why wasn't Goten in that scene with the tutor?
>>
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>>143343496
No. The fuck are you even talking about?
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>>143343506
Goten is a fusion character only they hate him
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>>143343526
give me something to talk about
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>>143336178
If I remember well according to goku Dabura had a similar power level to perfect cell
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>>143343368
King Piccolo is the evil side of Kami. Kami separated on his youth to become the guardian of Earth because the previous guardian didn't like his bad side. So later King Piccolo terrorized Earth and was sealed in a jar by the Turtle Hermit's master with the Evil Containment Wave. Later on he escaped and was defeated by Kid Goku. When dying he spat an Egg that became Piccolo Jr. (our Piccolo). Goku beat Piccolo after growing up in a Tournament in the end of DB.

He sort of is a reincarnation of King Piccolo, but he has a different personality and is stronger.
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>>143343487
what?
In the future Buu's egg is still somewhere forgotten and since Babidi is dead nobody can free him
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>>143343530
that scene is so NGE
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>>143343611
cool thanks.
DB seems like a cool series, should I watch it?
I am DBZ and DBS only.
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>>143343506
>Goten in that scene with the tutor

I actually wondered this as well. By this point in the series, aren't Bulma and Chi Chi friends? Surely Bulma wouldn't have said no to Goten, especially since she accepted the Pilaf gang.

I'm probably just looking into it too much. It is Dragonball after all, and the whole Chi Chi being an overbearing mom is a gag. Even if it's a shitty one.
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Loli Kai soon
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>>143343276

>rewatch the start of the RoF movie

Why? It doesnt say anything about Instant Transmission.
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>>143343685
Why have you not watched it already?
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>>143342199
Kai are weak as fuck compared to ss1
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>>143343685
DB is ok. It's more light hearted and jokes in the early part, later on it takes a more serious tone that is more like DBZ.
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>>143343250
That's just Goten with Chichi's earring.
Notice how she wasn't wearing them in most episodes until this arc.
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>>143343622
Yeah and where was Babidi in the present timeline? With fucking Buu you pleb.
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>>143343685
the reason why people still don't watch the original GOAT Dragon ball is beyond me
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Waifufags get yo ass ready you're waifus gonna be BLACKED.
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>>143343733
Because only DBZ aired on my TV.

>>143343750
okay
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>>143342370
Yeah. Trunks even said that black kept slowly powering up just like Goku has done in every fight he's been in since at least frieza or nappa
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>>143343720
>White haired nerd is the canon Time Kai
>Loli Kai will be replaced by his dumb ass for every video game following that
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>>143343758
but babidi needed energy so...BAM
Kill him

but no, in the present they had to ''''kill''' Buu
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>>143343787
I wonder that shotacons & barafags, especially the daddyloving crowd, think of Goku.
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>>143339357
>Other planets probably have just as tasty food as them
Every other single planet we've seen seems to be savage/primitive or super advanced. In the former, surviving the day is more important than what food tastes like. In the latter they probably care more about efficiency and eat some sort of nutrient paste. With all the planet trade shit going on, most earth-like planets have likely fallen, if there's any at all to begin with.

The only way another planet would have tastier food is if it was a planet that had been focused on tasty food even longer than earth.
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>>143336178
That Dabura looks like a guy in a suit. Like one of those sports mascots.
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>>143343730
You fool, I'm talking about reviving someone after a year has past.

>>143343739
>SS1 is a set powerlevel
>I don't remember the Majin arc
Damn this thread is shit.
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>>143339450
>Trunks beheads Black while he's busy fighting Goku.
>"Trunks you fool! How dare you ruin a saiyan's fight!"
>"Hey dad remember that time Gohan was fighting Cell and you interfered...twice?"
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>>143342685
If Goku is dead then there is no sag. If no ssg then no premonition about him. If no dream about ssg then beerus has no reason to wake up in this Era
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>>143343929
>"hey dad remember when you could have removed cell the the surface of the earth and let him get stronger instead?"
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>>143343840
>Kill him
What do you think they were trying to do dumbass? They need to find him first.
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What bugs you the most about the DB universe?

For me it's Goku being send back to earth with his body in the Buu arc.

Think about it for a moment. No magic balls were used to bring him back. The gods just did him a solid. That means that these entities have the power to restore you infinitely. In other words, Goku could be killed by a strong foe a billion times and they could just keep re-creating his body. Which begs the question: why don't the gods just do this all the time when the universe is threatened?
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>>143336178
I wonder if Dabura's sister will ever appear in Super?
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>>143343898
>With all the planet trade shit going on, most earth-like planets have likely fallen, if there's any at all to begin with.
Freiza had what? over 400 plants himself?

Not to mention how many King Cold likely had.
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>>143344020
Kill babidi They should have killed babidi
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>>143336178
Dabura looks depressed while he's spitting
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>>143343720
It's seeming more likely every episode. The Kais will eventually take notice and this is when she busts Future Trunks messing with timelines and gets him to work for her. Also Future Trunks pretty much lost everything at this point, there isn't all that much point in going back to the future.
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>>143344046
Not canon.
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>>143344036
>why don't the gods just do this all the time when the universe is threatened?
>when the universe is threatened so hard that a Kai is willing to give up their life
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>>143344059
They didn't know where Babidi was.
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>>143339380
Trunks trying to help out Goku while he's fighting Black would be like Krillin trying to help Goku while he was fighting final form Frieza
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>>143344036
Goku gave so many speeches about it too.
They were about to bring him back after cell but he told them he wanted to stay up there.
He said "this is their world, I can't interfere"
all that bullshit out the window. Goku is dead and supposed to watch from the clouds, now and forever
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>>143344059
Holy shit you're retarded kys
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>>143344036
In my opinion Gods in DB are either children or retards
except for Kaio
>>143344106
they should have waited him
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>>143344103

No Kai had to give up his life in order to bring back Goku initially (when he still had the halo over his head).
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>>143344122
Krillin could cut Frieza to pieces if he used his destructo disk but he doesn't use it. He could have killed nappa with it and vegeta and every villain except maybe cell and buu
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>>143344122
future Trunks should be able to fuse with Gohan now that he is weaker.
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Not going for the kill when it's stated black powers up every fight.
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>>143343924

Then why did Freeza got revived after Being dead for 7 years?
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>>143341366
nah senpai, whis was also punished by the gods for using time travel, he was punished by being forced to clean cat god litter for eternity, why do you think he wants vegeta to become the next god of destruction so bad?
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>>143344036
Are you taking about when he was restored back to life? That was because Old Kai gave his life for Goku's.

Unless you mean when they sent him back to Earth for one day. But even that had restrictions.
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>>143344180
How many Kai's are there

Cardinal directions kai

Grand kai
Supreme kai
elder kai
Kai of time
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>>143344193
>initially
He was allowed a day back because he was a good guy. Whatever energy used to keep him there was almost used up by SSJ3.
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>>143344285
grand kai isn't canon
kai of time is bullshit and not canon
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>>143341195
>Has to sacrifice himself to mend timelines
That just sounds so fucking cliche and worthless. DB stands on not being too serious, that entire premise is so fucking overly dramatic.
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>>143344322
I actually liked Grand Kai
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>>143338456
Is his name Goku? No? Then he gets to job.
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>>143344036
Toriyama did a full turn. Buu saga was all about the new generation taking over the responsibilities. This is all Goku talked about too, and he was fine with it. Then suddenly Goku and Vegeta are asspulled back to life to fight Kid Buu.
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>>143336178
>Dabura is strong
???
Gohan at his worst defeated him. And Trunks can go ssj2 too.
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>>143344243
Because Freeza is a fucking alien mutant that's hard to kill and the healing chamber.
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>>143344285
There are
-4 Normal Kai who watch over the directional quadrants of the mortal realm.
-1 Grand Kai who rules over the normal Kai.
-4 Directional Supreme Kai who watch over the mortal and afterlife.
-1 Grand Supreme Kai who rules over them.

-Various other Kai with no ruler ship who exist on the Kai world until one of the various normal KAi die, then one of them takes over that Kais position.
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>>143344310
Wasn't it Baba Yaga's magic?
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>>143341347

She's old enough to be his grandmother
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>>143336432
>The real question is what exactly is going to be Whis and Beerus's point in this arc

I bet there will be some epic food jokes lol. he was gonna destroy the world but the food is too good hahah that one got me good XD
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>>143344322
>grand kai isn't canon
Actually, Grand Kai is canon, as he is mentioned in the manga.

All the shit we see in the TV show about his appearance is filler and non-canon, but there is a Grand KAi position in actual canon
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>>143343924
OK nigga Frieza level. If kaiser are so strong why didn't they kill frieza or buu? Kais are weak as shit even if they are stringer than frieza that a still too weak for someone near cell level or stronger
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>>143344414
Which kept SSJ3 from being too much of a power hog.
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>>143344272

I mean when they send him back for one day. He could fight Majin Vegeta just fine in his "dead" body.

What if this Goku (with the halo) was "killed"? I don't see a reason why it should matter at all. His body was already atomized so it shouldn't be a problem for Halo Goku just to re-appear.
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>>143344376
>Toriyama did a full turn. Buu saga was all about the new generation taking over the responsibilities
Wrong
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Why wouldn't he be able to defeat Dabura?

He was an SSJ2, and Gohan did it.
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>>143344475
>I don't see a reason why it should matter at all.
Die again after being dead & you're super dead.
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>>143344524
haha black is a nigger
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>>143344236
Trunks actually might be too strong for him
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>>143344442
>I don't remember the Majin arc
>why didn't they kill frieza
Because he was working for Beerus you fool.
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>>143343136
A criminal to the gods, hes a slave to beerus as punishment, and he fears Zeno erasing him in case he doesnt fullfill his punishment.

didnt you see how beerus kept going about blowing up planets and whis always looks bothered to it?
Whis it a time traveling kaio from another universe who got punished into a life of servitude.
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>>143344517
Die after being super dead and youre super dead 2; then 3; then god; then super god; then super dead god kaioken times 20
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>>143344099
My dick says she is.

>>143344441
His appearance was probably drawn by Toriyama too.
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>>143344604
Not him but none of that makes sense as Whis's sister is also an attendant to Champa
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>>143344604
Stop spouting your stupid headcanon as fact

>>143344637
>447
Fuck off
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My autism was triggered in this episode because when Goku went SS2 his hair didn't change to the correct form.
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>>143344576
What? Are you dumb?

>>143344604
Really? Source on that about whis being punished?
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>>143344634
>His appearance was probably drawn by Toriyama too.
It actually was

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Kai
>Although Grand Kai does not appear in the Dragon Ball manga, he is mentioned there. In fact, his characterization in the anime was suggested to the production staff by the manga's author Akira Toriyama himself.[1]
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>>143343050
In the present timeline, Supreme Kai knew that Babidi would use the World Tournament to harvest the energy of powerful fighters to unseal Buu. Since Babidi was using Spopovich and Yamu as his pawns, they didn't actually know where he was, so they used Gohan as bait in order to find out his location.

It's hard to say how things would've progressed in the Future timeline, but it seems unlikely that the World Tournament would have still been held. With Earth's most powerful fighters not gathered together at a single location, Babidi would have had to just go out and harvest the energy of random humans, which would've attracted the attention of Trunks and the Supreme Kai. Trunks is the only fighter on Earth with enough energy to unseal Buu/stand up to Babidi, and without the pretense of the World Tournament to hide his identity, the Supreme Kai has to approach Trunks directly and warn him about Babidi. He trains him or whatever, and somehow Trunks is able to draw out Babidi/Dabura and kill them.
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>>143344752
>Source on that about whis being punished?
Jesus you're retarded kys
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>>143336178
why is trunks so based, he gets shit done and he has ssj2, cant wait for the next episode.
too bad everyone in his world is dead ;_;/spoiler]
why is vegeta such a fucking hypocrite, he bent over ass backwards to prevent Beerus from destroying Earth, but when Trunks "runs" away to get help, he gets all holier than thou
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>>143344667
Whis sister hates her cat even more than Whis, they were probably busted together and got similar punishments
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>>143344913
SUPERSAIYAN 4 GOGETA
HUNDRED THOUSAND TIMES BIG BANG KAMEHAMEHA
POWER POWER POWER
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>>143344833
This is not /vg/ anon, a thread can last a whole hour after hitting bump limit.
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>>143344923
>ignore any posts that talk about Dragon Ball in a Dragon Ball thread
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>>143344923
>Here's a Dragonball thread, but don't discuss half the shit related to Dragnball.

Are you really that fucking retarded? And stop spamming your thread every other post you autist.
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>>143344913

Powerleves are too inconsistent to tell. My gut feeling is Blue simply because God Ki is supposed to be on an entirely different level from regular Ki. Everybody, even Goku, simply accepted that it's impossible for regular Ki users to fight Beerus. Beerus was threatening to destroy the earth, yet Goku didn't even attempt to fight him and instead tried to figure out how to get God Ki.
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you know what the show needs?
more gohan, buu and chi chi
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>>143345097
Not him, and I know its not canon, but Xenoverse implies that SS4 Gogeta is about Beeru's level.
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>>143345135
Gohan is a jobber and he probably got his jobber genes from Yamcha
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Why don't they just Krillin or someone shoot Black with a laser gun while he is distracted?

Why don't they just make Future Trunks into a Bluper Saiyan, and let him deal with Black himself?
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>>143344913
>>143344951
>>143345097
>Powerleves are too inconsistent to tell.
Are you guys retarded? Don't answer that you clearly are.
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>>143345169
>Not him, and I know its not canon, but Xenoverse implies that SS4 Gogeta is about Beeru's level.

Where does that come up? I played the whole game and don't remember that.
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>>143345169
According to toriyama even though he's inconsistent as FUCK, he says if red goku is a 5, beerus is an 8 and whis is a 16.
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>>143345223
reported for spam
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>>143344923
>>143345014
>>143345135
>>143345174

Your not even trying to be subtle. Enjoy your ban retard.
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Why is whis so fucking strong? What exactly is his title?
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>>143345298
servant
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>>143345278
>Global Rules
>7. Replying to a thread stating that you've reported or "saged" it, or another post, is also not allowed.
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>>143345351
>stop fake replying to the thread
>let people have real discussion
pick one
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>>143345298
Genie.
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Why did this happen so long after it does in the main timeline?
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>>143345291
Thank you based mods
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>>143345298
>Why is whis so fucking strong? What exactly is his title?

He is someone that Goku saves and trains in the future. The final arc of the show will have Goku save a little child Whis from being destroyed by a rampaging Beerus. Goku then offers to train the kid until he is super powerful, at which point Whis goes back in time to serve Beerus and help Goku, completing a time loop.
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>>143345351
What the fuck is "fake replying"? Just because of you, I'm going to do nothing but discuss Chi Chi, Gohan and Buu in the next thread. And there isn't shit you can do about it.
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>>143343530
>does this prove he's a good guy who is a timeline keeper and is destroying trunks world because he interfered with time?

I like it.
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If going back in timeline causes two timelines to split run next to each other, and Trunks can travel to timelines, and take people from timelines to his, why can't they go back in time 5 minutes, then 10 minutes, then 15 minutes, then 20 minutes, and so forth collecting Bluper Saiyan gokus, which they then pool in the canon timeline to BTFO any evil that would ever arise?
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>>143345298

Because he trained Gods of Destruction for a really long time (possibly eternity)?
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>>143345232
Its never directly stated, but Beerus makes comments about SS4 Gogeta's power, and Gogeta mentions he might just be able to beat Beerus with this power.
Beerus VS SS4 Goku:
B: "It's a bit different from your god form. What is that form?"
G: "It's Super Saiyan 4... Want me to show my power?"

Beerus VS SS4 Vegeta:
B: "You seem to have gotten much stronger, Vegeta. Maybe you can win now."
V: "Heh...hahaha! God of Destruction vs Super Saiyan 4. Exciting!"

Beerus VS SS4 Gogeta
B: "Hohoho! That's an amazing power! Not bad at all!"
G: "Maybe I can win against Lord Beerus now."


Whis VS SS4 Goku
W: "That form... It's wonderful! I think you'd make a perfect God of Destruction."
G: "Stop it. It's not for me."
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>>143345477

If they could only ban the guy with the dumb idea of mending timelines and cant have nice things, this thread would become paradize.
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>>143336178
>You're telling me this cartoon for 8 year olds is inconsistent?? FUCKING BULLSHIT
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>FTrunks lets everyone know how everyone in the future got BLACKED
>Goku laughs and can't wait to meet him

He never fails to amuse
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>>143337675
how come they stopped doing that thing where they just stay super saiyan all the time?
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>>143345592
Why train them if he's stronger and could just do the job himself?
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>>143345571
>If going back in timeline causes two timelines to split

Was this ever stated?

I was under the impression that there simply are different timelines and Bulma's machine jumps between them. Trunks cannot change the events in his timeline but he can still influence another timeline (which already exists parallel to his).

If he created a new timeline each time he travels, then he could never truly return to his time.
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>>143337268
There are 12 dimensions. Within these 12 dimensions are multiple semi-dimensional timelines.

Is it really that hard?
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>>143345617
>perfect God of Destruction
I wonder if they're hiring.
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>>143343595
>Dabura had a similar power level to perfect cell

that was only in the dubbed version
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>>143345688

Perhaps for the same reason we train people in the real world: there is demand and one competent person isn't enough. Whis cannot be everywhere at the same time. We don't know how many Whis equivalents there are. It was never mentioned wether Vados is his only sibling or if he has more. It's possible that all the gods of destruction in the other universes are already fully trained and don't need a Whis-equivalent.
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>>143345710

I love feet but nail polish kinda ruins them for me.
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>>143344723
same for me, but it looks like next episode will fix that problem
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>>143345758
Cell has Saiyan DNA, so he would technically be able to get a God form.

Super Saiyan Blue Cell would look like a tall Cell Jr, I guess.
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>>143345695
Ok, fine.

But still, they could go around to every timeline and just collect all the Gokus together, right?
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>>143345817
But Krillin and Piccolo can use shadow clone jutsu and SO can Tien right?
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He did nothing wrong. He just wanted to protect his friends and family. Lord Beerus killed him.

So the only reason Goku is ok with Beerus is because the people he kills aren't close to him?
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>>143346018
Yeah haha when was the last time goku cared about anything other than sparring for a while without winning a fight haha?
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>>143345571

They could also visit the Kaioshin in all the timelines and borrow their earrings. Then they can fuse a googolplex of Goku's together.
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>>143346018
Goku is fine with people killing everyone as long as he gets a good sparring partner.

Look at how many people Vegeta has killed, and Goku and him are besties. Goku also repeatidly tried to let Frieza leave, even though obviously Frieza is a genocidal maniac and would continue killing. He just wanted another fight with him.
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>>143345937
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>>143345617
>"Maybe I can win against Lord Beerus now."
That implies some doubt there. Given that (Buu saga) Vegito is as strong as Super Saiyan 4 Goku, and (hypothetical non-God tier BOG/DBS) Vegito couldn't do shit against Beerus, I doubt that Super Saiyan 4 is at all comparable to God or Blue.
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>>143346018
If Frieza was nice to Goku, he would befriend him too despite killing planets and Krillin.
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Why does Gohan, any Trunks, or Goten not get Bluper Saiyan transformations?
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>>143346141
WHY DOESN'T THEY USE IT?
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>>143346160
I thought it said Vegito was comparable to an SSJ4 without saying Goku. Then again I've received different translations from different folks.
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>>143346018
Nigga are you blind? His best buddy was a mass-murderer.
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>>143346224
Son Goku noted plenty of weak points in the technique.
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>>143346139
so basically goku is a scumbag and should be sent to hell because he's enabling villains?
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>>143346224
Piccolo used it against Frost, what is your point.
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>>143346224
why does no one follow a solar flare with a destructo disk?
why did no one bother to learn the devilmite beam?

because the plot demands it
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>>143340774
that'd be pretty short sighted if he's supposed to inherit his rulership of earth
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>>143346160
>Given that (Buu saga) Vegito is as strong as Super Saiyan 4 Goku, and (hypothetical non-God tier BOG/DBS) Vegito couldn't do shit against Beerus

Are either of those things true?

I mean, an angry Vegeta was able to land a couple good shots. Vegito could probably put up a decent fight with Super Saiyan God base form Goku.
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>>143346224

Do you mean the cloning technique? Because it splits their power. Goku demonstrated this in his fight against Tien.

Or do you mean Roshi's afterimage technique? That's useless against foes who can sense ki. The gang should've used it against Frieza. They also should've spammed solar flare, or create giant dust clouds to fight in. It really bugs me how they didn't properly exploit Frieza's biggest disadvantage. Would've made the fight a lot more interesting.
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>>143346358
why doesn't Krillin use destructo disk when it could have cut through every villain DBZ?
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They should find some ass pull plot reason to make Piccolo a Namekian God, and give him God powers so he can be relevant again.
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>>143346440
>It really bugs me how they didn't properly exploit Frieza's biggest disadvantage
Goku kinda did that & they Solar Flared multiple times.
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>>143346251

But only AFTER he stopped killing innocent people.
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>>143345764
Even in the manga, Goku says that Dabura's "probably about as strong" as Cell, though when he sees him fight Gohan he admits that he's way stronger than he initially thought. Goku never fought Super Perfect Cell, though, so it's possible SPC and Dabura are of a comparable level. Either way, Vegeta states that both he and Goku would have no problem with Dabura, and that had he not regressed that Gohan should've been able to easily defeat him also: if Dabura is stronger than Cell, he's not that far ahead of him.

Considering he never stopped training and that he was around Vegeta's level during the Cell saga anyway, there's nothing wrong with Trunks being strong enough to defeat Dabura. If Vegeta could do it, Trunks probably could also.
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Friendly reminder that Guldo's power is greater than Hit's. He and Krillin could've murdered Frieza eazily.
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>>143346230
At the time of that guidebook's writing, the only Super Saiyan 4 that existed was Goku. It's pretty clear that they were talking about him.

Then again GT is more inconsistent with Power Levels than Super is, Trunks is stronger than Majin Buu one moment, and can't lift bricks without going Super Saiyan the next.

>>143346382
It's literally stated in the movie and Super that fusion "again" wouldn't do jack shit against Beerus. Vegito would need a MUH BULMA moment to even come close.
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>>143346478

I know but then they went back to fighting him normally. It would've been cooler if they kept exploiting the weakness until Frieza comes up with a plan to counter the exploit.
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>>143346488
>though when he sees him fight Gohan he admits that he's way stronger than he initially thought.

I thought that was because he overestimated Gohan's strength, not underestimated Dabura. Isn't this when Vegeta makes the comment about Gohan being weaker than when he fought Cell?
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>>143346534
Guldo freezes everybody. What would he have to do? pick up freeza and put him in front of the destructo disk? or pick up the destructo disk and kill freeza with it?
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>>143346534
If only the U6 Tournament had the U6 guys be some kinda U6 Ginyu Force.
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>>143346534
too bad guldo was a moron
actually, any tactical failure like "dude why don't they use a solar flare and follow it with a destructo disk" can be explained by "because they're fucking retards"
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>>143346555
>At the time of that guidebook's writing, the only Super Saiyan 4 that existed was Goku. It's pretty clear that they were talking about him.
I'm going to question the wording. If "A SSJ4" is how it's worded then I'd like to question if this implies that Vegito is as strong as What-If Buu Saga Goku went SSJ4, in other words the Buu Saga Goku:Vegito Power ratio is Base:SSJ4, or if it truly meant Goku. I'm wondering if this referred to SSJ4 Goku specifically or the power-up SSJ4.
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>>143345758
>>143345887
Cell could become Golden Cell too, Cell had the potential to be stronger than anyone.
I always like the what if stories from games where he killed everyone on earth and spent his life traveling the universe fighting strong opponents.
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>>143346835
You want some Italian for dinner? You seem hungry for some pasta.
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>>143337675
>If you want to talk about actually stupidity remember how Trunks failed completely at trying to surpass the regular Super Saiyan form. Nether Goku or Vegeta fell into this trap.

no shit retard, they have years of fighting experience on him
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>>143346716
Super Saiyan 4 Goku in GT is what it implies based on context. Actually, the guidebook's exact wording is that Vegito's power might be even stronger than Super Saiyan 4.
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>>143346139
>>143346285
It is weird seeing Gokus downfall, in Dragon Ball he outright killed the bad guys but after King Piccolo he realized he was the strongest in the world until he met popo and kami but he out passed them and became the strongest.
It drove him mad, he had no more challenges anymore.
He killed his brother for the sake of his family but after that he realized death did not matter and his power was limitless so he let all his further enemies live in hope they come back stronger.
>Vegeta
>He tried to let Freezer go
>Same with cell, gave him a senzu bean
>Wished buu back to reincarnation.
>Tried to let Freezer go again.
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>>143346873
Yeah go ahead.
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>>143347042
>it implies based on context
So specifically Goku & not the transformation itself? Just making sure the wording is precise.
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>>143347097
Is there a even character that’s close to being as perfect as Cell? Let alone be him. And I'm not talking about Perfect Cell. I'm not talking about Super Perfect either. Hell, I'm not even talking about SSGSS Golden Cell. I’m also not talking about SSGSS Golden Cell who fused with 9001 SSGSS Golden Cell Jrs & obtained Beerus & Whis' DNA. I'm definitely NOT Talking about SSGSS Golden Cell who fused with 9001 SSGSS Golden Cell Jrs & obtained Beerus, Whis, Champa & Vados' DNA after absorbing enough Spiral Power & Getter Rays to use SSGSS Golden Tengen Toppa Getter Emperor. I'm talking about SSGSS Golden Cell who fused with an infinite number of SSGSS Golden Cell Jrs & obtained Beerus, Whis, Champam, Vados, Madara Uchiha & Ultimate Kars' DNA to obtain Requiem versions of every Stand (including but not limited to Gold Experience Requiem, Made in Heaven Requiem, The World Over Heaven Requiem & D4C Requiem) after absorbing enough Spiral Power & Getter Rays to use SSGSS Golden Tengen Toppa Getter Emperor as he pilots Elder Demonbane with Cosmic Armor, Power Cosmic, and Omega effect while he does 101 Push-ups, 101 Sit-ups, 101 Squats, 11 km run per day for over 4 months inside the sun after ingesting Kryptonian DNA (to somehow obtain infinite power from a finite source) after consuming Popeye's Spinach while riding the writer's cock to battle.
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>>143347009
Jesus you're retarded.

>>143346440
>The gang should've used it against Frieza.
Goku did reread the fight
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>>143347097
>>143347147
Keep in mind that this Cell is able to leverage Namekian regeneration and Frieza's physiology to put extremely high multipliers on the Kaioken, can produce Cell Jrs and borrow their energies to power the Genki Dama (Spirit Bomb), with full mastery of the Shunkan Ido (Instant Transmission) and able to use Shunkan Kamehameha to sneak attack opponents before they knew what hit them, can use Cho Kyoshinjutsu (Giant Form) due to his Namekian DNA and Shishin no Ken (Multi Form) together to overwhelm opponents, has Taiyoken to get the drop on any opponent that can see, and is able to spam Kikohos since Androids have infinite life energy and with Kikohos so strong that circular imprints are left on the ground.
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>>143347108
Yeah, it's a GT guidebook, when Goku was the only Super Saiyan 4 around. It COULD mean that it's talking about the transformation, but that wouldn't fit the context as well.

Vegito is stronger than Super Saiyan 4 GT Goku. Not even magic pants and eyeliner can stop the power of earrings.
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Who is stronger, SSJ3 God Blue Broly or Whis?
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>>143339589
>Babadi and Dabura came later then they did in the Prime timeline
>>143339589

FT timeline IS the prime timeline

/nitpick
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>>143338328
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>>143343506
I get the feeling they're keeping Goten away so they don't strain Nozawa's voice anymore than it needs.

It's one of the problems with having an 80 year old VA who voices 5 people.
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>>143347301
>when Goku was the only Super Saiyan 4 around
That's not very meaningful. It could be a guidebook punished before Buu talking about SSJ2 when Gohan was the only one. I'm saying if it explicitly says Goku or if it can be interpreted in different ways. If it says "a Super Saiyan 4" then it's rather open. If it says "the Super Saiyan 4" or "Goku" then it's more definite.
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>>143346534
Guldo's power doesn't actually freeze everything.

This is obvious when Vegeta chops off his head while Gohan and Krillin are supposedly frozen.
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>>143346534
Why didn't he just carry a laser pistol, and shoot people with it while they were frozen?

He could have wrecked SSJGod Goku like this.
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Future Pan When? More Note.
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>>143347519
he used a different attack to freeze gohan and krillin if I remember correctly
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>>143347519
Reread the fight.
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>>143347575
From Trunks timeline? Impossible
>Future Gohan never met Future Videl
>They never got married
>Goten was never born
>Gohan did not pass out from exhaustion when he put the tip inside Videl on their wedding night
>Goten did not wander in and finish off Videl thus creating Pan.
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>>143347514
>超サイヤ人4以上の強さかも!?
Here's the exact wording.
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>>143347550

Only if their ki shields were down the moment he froze them.
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>>143346555
>Trunks is stronger than Majin Buu one moment, and can't lift bricks without going Super Saiyan the next.
What? When was he stronger than majin buu, or are you just retarded
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>>143348193
Going by dialogue, Rildo is as strong as Buu. Goku, Pan, and Trunks finally defeat him in base.

Just a few episodes prior, Trunks couldn't lift a stack of bricks without going Super Saiyan.

Not even Super is that bad with inconsistencies.
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