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Is there a better couple? I think not.

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Is there a better couple? I think not.
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Maximum hetero.
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>>143200227

FTFY
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>>143200227

There definitely is a better couple.
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You know it's true.
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>>143200816
Haha, what a cuck.
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Even after death they remained OTP.
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>>143200854
Damn it man it's been a hundred fucking years, put a ring on that finger already.
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Fuck Gonzo.
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Get on my level.
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>>143200816
I really feel bad for her.
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Furryxhuman are best, prove me wrong.

Oh wait, you can't.
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>>143200227
Even if you don't want to admit it, you know it's true.
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>>143200968
You don't have to, it's her fault for being gay.
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>>143200979
Clothes are better though.
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Soon.
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How bout this one, OP?
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>>143201174
Space penis is even better.
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>>143201039
She was destined to be gay. The universe literally cannot accept a world where people can move on.

Even alternate Tomoyos are gay for Sakura just like Syaoran is the son of his and Sakuras clone reincarnations.

Even if they marry a guy they'll always love that person more. Like Kohane and Doumeki both love Watanuki more than each other.
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>>143201414
>She was destined to be gay
I'm pretty sure all characters in the Sakuraverse are bisexual by default.

>>143200923
Marriage is the first step toward divorce. This is why incest is the purest form of love.
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While not a couple in the modern sense, contextually speaking they were closer to eachother as partners and allies than many examples of lovers you'll find. Stayed by eachother's side for countless thousands of years selflessly helping and protecting eachother against everything the universe could throw at them despite having no biological inclination to do so. A real shame they can't feel love.
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>>143201567
The universe wants her to be gay for Sakura in every universe where she exists. Hell someone not dying at the exact moment their supposed to raised as a zombie fucks up reality.
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>>143200227
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>>143200979
I need to finish reading this. Thanks for the reminder.
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>>143201174
Mein nigger
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>>143200227
Delete this. Sakura is made for faceless old men only.
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>>143200761
>lesbians actually believe this
They should all be burned at the stake.
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>>143200227
I want to rape sakura in front of syoaran and then kill her.
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>>143200816
Why are Sakura and CLAMP such fucking cunts?
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>>143200816
Syaoran is better so who cares
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>>143201567
You posted mine.
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>>143200227
I still prefer these idiots
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>>143200227
Solid choice, but Sakura and Syaoran's relationship isn't quite as good as pic related.
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>>143200816
I wonder if Tomoyo kept being a secret lesbian or did like her mother and married someone
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>>143210303
I kinda wish for the third option where she dates Mei for a bit. I'm not sure if it works out, but hey, now Tomoyo's a not-so-secret lesbian and she can explore other options.
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>>143210303
I pity the poor sod who wound up as her beard (is there an equivalent lesbian term? Fuck if I know.) since you know she'd just spend all her spare time in her home theater, shlicking to her home videos of Sakura.
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I'm in love with Tomoyo

But she's lesbian
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My OTP for life.
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>>143210303
What is the deal with her father whenever someone mentions her father she is always vague about it.
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>>143210303
Is Tomoyo actually a lesbian though? I remember Clamp said Syaoran and Sakura's sex didn't matter they'd always end up falling in love with each other.

I'd think Tomoyo is the same way, she's happy so long as Sakura's happy so she'd be fine marrying some dude. Or she could just stalk around in the dark with a video camera for the rest of her life, that seems to make her happy too.
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>>143200761
I agree. A shota/loli romance in grade school is super great.
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>>143201414
>The universe literally cannot accept a world where people can move on.
I mean, Sakura moved on from Yukito. Syaoran did too, but I forgot what makes him move away from Yukito.
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>>143200227

They are cute but not an actual couple until now. Shaoran confessed at the end of the show and Sakura expended two movies figuring if he liked him or not.
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>>143210991
>Syaoran did too, but I forgot what makes him move away from Yukito.
Wasn't it less that he had an actual romantic sentiment towards him, and more that he felt a pull towards Yue?

Or something like that.
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Wait, who are these? Reverse image search using SauceNao only leads to hetalia fanart.
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>>143200854
These two as well.
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>>143210380
>she dates Mei for a bit
Mei is straight, m8
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>>143211111
I was gonna say that a man could dream, but those quints shut me right the hell down.
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>>143211018
Yeah, there's barely any show of their relationship now that they're an actual fucking couple who's dating each other.

I hope the Clear Card Chapter will show more Sakura/Syaoran dating, I have been waiting years for that.
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>>143200854
Agreed.
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>>143211234
Are they actually married yet? None of the VIVID's "Oh I just call them my mothers, they're not married" shit. Lots of the fanbase loves this gay shit, why not make them official
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>>143211316
They marriage was teased for a long time when Nanoha StrikerS was airing, but they didn't make it official until the first chapter of the Nanoha Vivid manga came out, that was a long time ago.
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>>143211316
The fanbase loves it. The actors love it. The director loves it. Everyone except for some disgruntled side-project writers love it.

I just go with the one doujinshi where it turns out Fate just can't settle for anything less than perfect so it keeps getting put off, and leave it at that.
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>>143211523
That sounds adorable. I need to read it.
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>>143211523
People usually speculate they married around 19 and are renewing their vows at least once a year judging by the huge amount of wedding artworks with different dresses. They must have married between the end of StrikerS and the start Vivid for the change with Vivio's adoption makes sense too.
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>>143211675
Just search through the Non-H NanoFate stuff on SadPanda, you'll find it quick enough I'm sure.
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>>143211799
>103 results in English
And that's not even half of the stuff that gets posted on dynasty scans.
I don't think that will be a very quick search.
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>>143211523
>>143211234
Disgusting, one of the reason I'll never watch this.
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>>143211799
>>143211889

103 results? I fap to that many doujins in a single night! This should be a cinch.
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I remember the CLAMPs mentioning in an interview that Sakura and Syaoran are fated lover and will always fall in love no matter what. Not even gender. Sakura would fall in love for the little wolf even if he was a girl.

Would you have wished to see a alt universe where Sakura and Syaoran were a lesbian couple?
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>>143212729
>Would you have wished to see a alt universe where Sakura and Syaoran were a lesbian couple?
I'd read that What-If.
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>>143212729
That doesn't stop Sakura from being an insensitive bitch.
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>>143212729
I think it would be a cute one-shot, but I'm already so invested in what already exists that it would take one hell of a good one-shot for me to want more.
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>>143212851
She's not an insensitive bitch if she doesn't return Tomoyo's feelings. That just means she's not really into Tomoyo. It happens.
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>>143212913
See >>143200816

Insensitive and dense.
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>>143212851
>>143212913
Or just the fact that she can't comprehend her Best Friend/Whatever-degree-of-cousin having a homosexual attraction to her.

She's not insensitive because it never crosses her mind. Just oblivious.
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>>143213016
>it never crosses her mind
That's what makes it insensitive.
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>>143212729
>Would you have wished to see a alt universe where Sakura and Syaoran were a lesbian couple?
I'd wish to see a setting where Tomoyo, the only person who was 100% faithful to their feelings of love for the whole series, to win the girl she likes.
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>>143213060
Not the anon you answered, but insensitivity implies that she knows about Tomoyo's feelings and just doesn't care. Sakura just doesn't know.

>>143213093
I would definitely read that.
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>>143213093
Sakura loves Syaoran in every universe though. Why do people still keep treating Tomoyo like she lost? SakuraxSyaoran is her super OTP, she's super stoked for it.
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>>143213148
>insensitivity implies that she knows
It actually doesn't.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/insensitive
>Not aware of or able to respond to something:
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>>143213093
There's always fanfic. It's hard to get someone when the will of the universe ships that person with someone else.
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>>143213488
You're dumb.
>she's super stoked for it
>>143200816
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>>143213488
This. Tomoyo even willingly helped SxS to happen.
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>>143213625
Because she's a better person than you.
She wants the person she loves to be happy, that doesn't somehow exclude her from losing romantically.
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>>143213555
How would Tomoyo feel if an integral part of her waifu's character was rewritten to force her waifu to love her? If you have to fundamentally change someone so they'll love you back would that really be happiness?
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>>143213527
From the same link
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/insensitive

>Showing or feeling no concern for others' feelings

That's the very first definition, anon. Now, granted, my original point that insensitivity implies that she knows,was off, but Sakura is totally concerned for the feelings that she knows Tomoyo has. It just so happens that Tomoyo cares about Sakura being happy above being with Sakura herself.
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>>143213590
What are you even saying? Tomoyo is literally saying Sakura's happiness makes her the happiest? She didn't leave this scene and start crying in a ball like you seem to think.
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>yuricucks are mad because a girl is straight
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>>143213733
I would. I would take sakura's love no matter the form.
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>>143213690
This makes me think about the salty fanfic writers that turn Syoran into a douche to justify breaking up their relationship when in reality Syaoran would react almost the same as Tomoyo. Had Tomoyo won he would be sad for a while but ultimateky happy for them because of how much he values Sakura's hapiness and well being as also how high his opinion and trust in Tomoyo are. Remember he nit only was willing to put his life on the line for Sakura numerous times but also how he was willing to actually forfeit his chances with her whe he felt he was being selfish for approaching her when she was dealing with her feelings for Yukito (until, surprise, surprise, Tomoyo encouraged him to go on). And at the end was happy just with making his feelings for her clear.

There's a reason Tomoyo picked him. He's a pretty fine choice for a couple.
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>ITT: Anons talking about how perfect and nice kids can be to each other, while grumbling about how awful their lives are in comparison
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>>143210445
My bro! RubyxSaphire is the best pokespe ship.
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>>143213755
But that's the thing, she makes to effort to actually understand Tomoya or her feelings. Thus why she is insensitive. Ignorance is never an excuse.

>>143213830
>feelings are only what people visibly express
Not really. Or do you honestly think he is happy that she will never have her feelings requited.

>>143213962
No, not that she's straight, nor mad. Just that it's ban writing, and Tomoyo is literally forced through the plot itself to be alone forever.
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>>143213985
>reading fics
You don't really belong on /a/.

Also, yeah the reason she picked him is because the plot demanded it. CLAMP always puts down yuri relationships.

Syoran and Sakura both lusted after multiple other people. Tomoyo is the only one who was truly faithful 100% to her feelings. If Syoran was shallow and unfaithful once, he's more than likely to do it again.
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>>143206274
Why would you want this?
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>>143214073
What more effort could Sakura have really made? Do you want her to just outright ask Tomoyo if she has a crush on her? I like SakuraxTomoyo as much as the next guy, but if Tomoyo actually went out of her way to hook her up with Syaoran because she thinks they would make a happy couple and her happiness is contingent on Sakura's happiness, then that is a selfless love. People may not always verbalize their emotions, but actions speak just as, if not more, loudly than words.
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>>143213733
>force [...] to love
This is literally EXACTLY what the story does for Syoran and Sakura.
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>>143214073
>Ignorance is never an excuse.
More Inexperience rather than ignorance. Sakura always tries to figure the feelings of the people she cares for but is a really poor judge on the romance departament because she have the viewpoint of an average 10 year old girl. It's pointed sometimes that Tomoyo is pretty mature for her age and express her feelings accirdingly. No wonder it flies over the head of a naive little girl like Sakura (not even her more mature and experienced friends like Rika or Chiharu are aware of it, Syaoran kinda grasped it in Season 3).
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>>143214185
>because the plot demanded it
Well yeah, it's what happen to every fictional character in every work of fiction ever.
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>>143214073
You're not Tomoyo anon, stop trying to self insert as her. She is happy even if her feelings aren't requited. She's not suffering, that's just how she is.
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>>143214288
Pretty much anything. She could have actually thought about a lot of the things Tomoyo said. Not written them off. Like the multiple times Tomoyo said she loves Sakura. Plus dozens of other these scenes that strongly express her feelings.

>>143214382
>More Inexperience rather than ignorance
One does not exclude the other. And Tomoyo may be more mature, but for Sakura to not pick up on the obvious signs in Tomoyo's behavior is really bad.
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>>143214468
More so in this situation, though. And the authors even flat out say this.

>>143214518
People who self insert ever are stupid. Also, I can guarantee you that Tomoyo would be happier if she did not have to spend her whole life alone.
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>>143214185
>You don't really belong on /a/.
Maybe but it's still fun to come around.

>CLAMP always puts down yuri relationships.
X says otherwise.

>Syoran and Sakura both lusted after multiple other people.
Yukito suddenly means "multiple other people"
>Syoran was shallow and unfaithful once, he's more than likely to do it again.
According to your logic so is Sakura.
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>>143214672
>Sakura and Syaoran is even more forced a pairing than any other
>I wish they'd fundamentally change Sakura so she'd fall in love with Tomoyo like natural
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>>143214696
X had no actual meaningful yuri relationship in it. And in all other CLAMP works the "close female friends" end up with dudes by the end.

Yeah, I already said that Tomoyo is the only one who was 100% faithful to her love. You said Syoran was "the best person for Sakura" or whatever, and I'm saying that's not correct.
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>>143214061
My comrade of elevated taste.
The main reason why I was even hyped for ORAS was because of them.
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>>143214672
I could rape tomoyo in front of sakura. That way i get to take revenge on sakura and tomoyo gets attention from sakura.
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>>143214551
>>143214672
Sakura's oblivious as hell about romance. Remember that she didn't know that even Syaoran had feelings for her until he flat out told her. Tomoyo on the other hand, is family so I imagine Sakura's first thought here is that she's just expressing familial love as opposed to a romantic one. But, let's assume that Sakura did somehow put it all together and knew that Tomoyo was in love with her. Tomoyo isn't entitled to Sakura's love. People fall in and out of love all the time and, here's the real kicker, they're all ten. Tomoyo has a whole lifetime to find someone who makes her just as happy as Sakura did. It just strikes me as weird that you assume that since she didn't get the girl at the end of the manga she spends her whole life alone and pining for Sakura. That's a bit overdramatic, no?
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>>143210445
You're a man with a refined taste
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>>143214551
>the obvious signs in Tomoyo's behavior
The only individuales who picked it were Eriol a powerful adult mage with high intelect and Syaoran a kind smart kid who spent a lotta amount of time with her while paying very close attention to the interacciona between her and Sakura. Literally nobody else shows signs of noticing Tomoyo's "obvious" behavior. Not even her mother that went through something similar.

Remember we as the audience commonly have an advantage over the cast in terms of oerception because we get all the viewpoints and private moments of sincerity from most characters.
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>>143200227
But wasnt the little kid gay ?
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>>143215017
I think the canon explanation was that he was attracted to Yue's magic, but yeah, he's probably bi.
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Yurifags are pathetic
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>>143200227

Bestest couple reporting in
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>>143214883
>Sakura's oblivious as hell about romance.
Again, ignorance is not an excuse for anything.

>People fall in and out of love all the time
Yes, and that makes them shallow.

>Tomoyo has a whole lifetime to find someone who makes her just as happy
The story flat out says this will never happen.
Did you even read this manga?

>>143214931
Are you seriously saying that any person in their right mind couldn't see how this scene >>143200816 alone is full of double meaning and messages. The looks on Tomoyo's face say a lot.
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>>143215108
>>143213962
Says the person who can't type and keeps making substance-less one line posts.
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>>143201155
What?
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>>143201222
At least someone in here has taste
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>>143214824
For someone who doesn't read fanfics you surely think like a fanfic writer. Syaoran may be flawed but he isn't the scum of the earth you're trying to sell. He tempered his character, matured as a person thought the series and proved to be a reliable considerate boy that would never force anything on anyone but will be honest with his feelings. For two people that "were unfaithful once" they got to endure two years appart while still loving each other.

>>143214883
>Tomoyo has a whole lifetime to find someone who makes her just as happy as Sakura did. It just strikes me as weird that you assume that since she didn't get the girl at the end of the manga she spends her whole life alone and pining for Sakura. That's a bit overdramatic, no?
This. I don't get why people think someone as smart, kind and likable as Tomoyo's won't be able to find hapiness later in life.
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>>143215204
Yeah, the double meaning is that the person she's talking about is Sakura, not that she's lying and is actually depressed. Tomoyo is happy.
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>>143215319
>This.
Doing this should be an instant ban. This is not reddit, you don't upvote posts.

>I don't get why people think someone as smart, kind and likable as Tomoyo's won't be able to find hapiness later in life.
Though, it's clear I'm talking to "people" haven't even read the series. Because one of the plot points is Tomoyo straight up saying she will never love anyone else. And that even hold true across the CLAMP multiverse.
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>>143215204
Just because she didn't find them doesn't mean she didn't have the chance. Though I give it to ya, I only watched the anime and it has been many a year since I've gone back. That said, your idea that falling out of love is shallow makes absolutely no sense to me. People change and at some point the person you fall in love with isn't the same person anymore or you're not the same person who fell in love with them in the first place. Or are you gonna tell me that you're still into your very first crush? But if we're gonna tie this right back to the show, why would you want Sakura to get with Tomoyo if, by your logic, she's shallow? Wouldn't it potentially hurt Tomoyo more to lose Sakura in such a way?
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>>143215204
>The story flat out says this will never happen.
Citation needed.

>The looks on Tomoyo's face say a lot.
To us. The audience.

>>143215237
>substance-less one line posts.
Like the one you posted?
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>>143215399
You can't even keep what you're talking about straight in your head. Do you even remember what you're talking about?

The first point was about Sakura and how she makes no effort to actually understand Tomoyo or her feelings.

The point was not about Tomoyo past her having romantic feelings for Sakura.
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>>143215454
>Because one of the plot points is Tomoyo straight up saying she will never love anyone else.
She's ten.

>And that even hold true across the CLAMP multiverse.
She's barely a teenager in all of those.

Until you show me an elder Tomoyo's alone still pinning for Sakura this don't hold water. Sonomi even started to blush around Fujitaka by the end.
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>>143215468
>>143215529
>makes absolutely no sense to me
Because you're a shallow person yourself.
If the feelings weren't shallow, do you really think they would go away so easily? Marriage vows have the line "till death do us part" for a reason.

>Just because she didn't find them doesn't mean she didn't have the chance.
>Citation needed.
This isn't even something that's being said for the very first time. People make note of how Tomoyo said this all the time. How new are you?

>Like the one you posted?
Nope. The post say substance, because it's pointing out what you are actually doing.
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>>143215691
>the story doesn't count because it proves my argument wrong
Why are you even here? The story gives you information for a reason. You can't say it's wrong just because you don't like it.
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>>143215555
>The first point was about Sakura and how she makes no effort to actually understand Tomoyo or her feelings.
The thing is Sakura does try to take Tomoyo's feelings in consideración to the point of straight up asking her about it but she lack the experience to realize her true feelings and Tomoyo also avoids being sincere even when given the chance on a silver plate. Say what you want about Syaoran but him getting to spit it out was probably what made the bigger difference. And it was something Tomoyo was perfectly aware of as it was her the one who told him about Sakura's outstanding innocence.

I don't get why are you so salty if Tomoyo was the one who foiled her chances with Sakura by choice.
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>>143215865
It's exactly what you're doing. The story worked hard and good to make the feelings of Sakura and Syaoran valid and you're shitting on it saying they were "forced by the plot" just because you preferred a different outcome.
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>>143216102
That is not what I'm doing in the slightest. I'm not taking anything the plot said and am claiming it's wrong. I said it's bad and poorly written, but that's not even close to the same thing as saying it's not valid even though the story says it.
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>>143216232
You contradictorio the plot calling Sakura and Syaoran shallow when their feelings and circumstances were explored in grear detail to show us the growing strenght of their bond.
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>>143215979
>salty
People who use this word are so pathetic.
I hope you realize that your whole argument is still boiling down to "ignorance is an excuse".

And you are forgetting the main point here, which is that the whole story itself is forcing certain aspects. Which is the issue that was being talked about in the first place. That because the story itself prevents it from happening, a certain character is forced into being a sandbag.
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>>143216398
>contradictorio
Learn English, please. And no, I'm not contradicting the plot. They're feelings are still shallow even if the story builds around them. Because they already showed what their true characters are like.
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>>143214911
Really it is a damn shame nobody reads it because it is pokemon.
These two are one of the cutest couple I have ever seen and it is a bummer that some anons will never know this.
the battles are also pretty nice
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>>143216651
Forgot pic
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>>143215795
Nice Ad Hominem, bro. But getting back to the point, your argument seems to boil down to, people are static and cannot change. I also notice that you've artfully dodged my questions.
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>>143210303
It's clamp, she marries some dude because lesbians need to get dicked or die, preferably both.
>>143210794
Female Syaoron and male sakura would work. Male Syaoron and male Sakura would work. Clamp would never let female syaoron and female Sakura work though.
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>>143217281
Nice lack of basic knowledge and thinking skill, bro. ad hominem does not mean what you think it does. ad hominem is an argumentative tool that means to dismiss what someone says in favor of personally attacking them. I did not dismiss anything you said, thus it's not ad hominem.

And that's not even close to what my argument boils down to. Change does not mean you inherently are shallow.
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>>143217447
>Because you're a shallow person yourself

Ah... I see that calling people shallow for not understanding your strange thoughts on relationships isn't Ad Hominem. But sure, let's move on from here and and onto your next point.

Your arguments thus far seem to go as such, and please, correct me if I'm mistaken:

>The relationship between Sakura and Syaoran is badly written because they each had a crush on someone else
>Because Tomoyo has been in love with Sakura, and only Sakura, she is entitled to Sakura's affections
>Despite being 10 and generally oblivious to love, Sakura should have picked up on Tomoyo's feelings, a feat that very few other people on the show were able to pull, and there is no excuse for Sakura not returning those feelings.
>People who have every fallen out of love with someone are shallow.

Is that about the extent of it?
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>>143216694
This is adorable. I'm gonna read this manga just to get to this point.
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>>143217744
Yes, because ad hominem does not mean "insult".

And no. You got it pretty wrong. Though, you have the parts about the same.

-The relationship between Sakura and Syaoran is shallow because they loved other people.
-Because Tomoyo has been in love with Sakura, and only Sakura, she is has feelings that are not shallow and is better for Sakura. Not to say Sakura is better for her.
-Despite being 10 Tomoyo is smart enough to act rationally and understand subtle things, which means there is not excuse for Sakura not being able to, and the story is poorly written because of that. Because understanding someone's feelings should not take god-tier magic.
-Yes. Those feelings are shallow.
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>>143218270
Alright, now that we've appropriately touched base, maybe we can start getting somewhere. Here we go.

>To both your first and last points, part of growing up and finding that right person is that you go through a few people who aren't for you. Again, I doubt that you are still into your very first crush or even the very first person you were reasonably sure you were in love with, but I'm certain that those feelings were no less valid.
>Alright, this is an interesting point. Does Tomoyo's completely unshaken love for Sakura mean that it is best for her? I'd say, not necessarily. A relationship is based on more than just unshakeable feelings, they're based on a kind of understanding that goes beyond simply being into someone. If Tomoyo's love is based on what she feels is best for Sakura and she then goes out of her way to get Sakura and Syaoran together, then it stands to reason that Tomoyo understands that Syaoran would make Sakura happier.
>People grow up at different rates. Tomoyo is acknowledged in the series as being mature for her age, Sakura, less so.
>Back to my first point.
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>>143212729
>I remember the CLAMPs mentioning in an interview that Sakura and Syaoran are fated lover and will always fall in love no matter what.

That stinks.
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>>143218578
Stop typing everything in greentext. You are so new it hurts to look at you.

No, growing up does not excuse having shallow feelings. Just because many people do have shallow feelings does not mean that it's "part of growing up". Kids eat paste when growing up, does that mean it's not something that's wrong. Of course not.
>I'd say
No one is asking what'd you say. This is about what's factual. And there is no way Syaoran, someone who has shallow feelings is better for anyone.

You missed the point entirely. And again, just because people grow up at different rates doesn't excuse Sakura acting like a retard. Also, you made the point that almost no one in the series was able to pick up on Tomoyo's feelings. Which, again, is stupid. Because that's not actually something that's hard to do.

See point one.
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>>143218270
I can't believe you really think this is how human relationships work. I hope this is bait. I'm worried for you, anon.
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>>143219092
>And there is no way Syaoran, someone who has shallow feelings is better for anyone.
Maybe for a shallow girl like Sakura? At least they're growing up at the same level.
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>>143219103
I can't believe you really think "I say you're wrong so it's fact" is how logical processing actually works. I hope this is bait. I pity you, anon.
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My ack radar is going off hard in this thread. Time to post some madoka crack shipping?
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>>143219195
Just cause more damage, they're both a negative.
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>>143219228
>madoka crack
It's safe to say Madoka is the worst thing to ever happen because it gave birth to people like you. You ruin every thread you touch.
Honestly, how fast are you trying to report posts right now. I bet it's a lot, because you think your behavior is justified.
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>>143219210
>People can't make wrong desicions and definetely can't learn from them to grow wiser.
This is how you sound. Did something happened? Why are you so strict and unforgiving? Very un-Tomoyo like.
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>>143219324
Yep. Ack is here.
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>>143219341
Because this is now about a decision. They are just inherently shallow like that.
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>>143219376
What you expect people to say to you when you go "hi, I'm going to ruin this thread"?
No really, what do you think people should be saying.
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>>143219439
Ack~
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>>143219228
>>143219376
>>143219495
What's Ack? Google comes up with nothing.
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>>143200227
Hikki X Yukino
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>>143219513
A mentally ill guy who hangs out in yuri and especially madoka threads. Nothing to really indicate that guy is ack though
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>>143219103
So, gonna throw this out there, I'm not this guy, though I am somewhat inclined to agree that this isn't how relationships work in general.

>>143219092
Alright, no greentext it is, you surly bastard.

Growing up may not necessarily excuse behavior, but it makes it understandable. In your example, we say it's wrong to eat glue, not because of a moral or philosophical standpoint. We tell you not to eat it because it's bad for the body. When kids screw up at friendship we might scold them, but we generally don't make all that much of a judgement on them as people. They have learning to do.
Also, you're really gonna try and place an objective value on FEELINGS? Those things that are inherently subjective?

Anyway, this thread is about couples and it's about time I posted another.
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>>143219495
I'll take that as you are insane, and it doesn't matter what people say, you're going to assume you're right now matter what.

>>143219513
It's literally nothing. There is one insane spammer who spams tumblr shipping nonsnse, and he calls anyone who thinks what he is doing wrong is "ack".

You can look it up in the archives.
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>>143219412
Then what's the merit in Tomoyo being with a shallow girl?
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>>143215147
Mi negro.
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>>143219568
Well, you look like the crazy one here, you just keep throwing around accusations with no proof. So you have any thing to back up what you're saying?

>>143219592
I get a lot of results for words like "back" when I look for "ack". But I do see some examples of what you are talking about. That is a lot of spam.
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Easy way to find out
>best couple coming through
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>>143219570
This isn't about morals. Strong feelings are based on something that's imaginable, not something that's moral based. Strong feelings last forever, and do not waver. Shallow feelings do.

Feelings are subjective, but you do not understand what subjective means. It sure does not mean that any feelings at all can be considered strong just because you think they are. If the husband sleeps around and cheats on his wife are his feelings strong just because he says the words "my feelings are wrong." Obviously not. It's all action and result based. You have to prove your feelings are strong. Sakura and Syaoran have shown through their actions that theirs are not.

>>143219605
I never said there was.
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>>143219807
>only one person in the world can take issue with me shitposting
Solid reasoning you got there. What are you going to do next, reinvent the wheel?
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>>143219807
Well, it seems >>143219592 was 100% right about you. You act the same way in the archives.
Unless you want to try and prove them wrong and present some evidence of your own.
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>>143219570
This (yeah, sue me). I agreed wholeheartily with this post and furtunately i'm convinced shallow hater is way off the mark about what the intended meaning of the show was in relation to the main cast and their choices.
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>>143219894
Shitposting? It is a thread about best couple and here they sit.
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>>143219984
You know exactly what you are doing.

>people discussing a series and staying on topic
>you think it's funny to derail the thread and try to bait people with tumblr shipping nonsense the demeans the relationships of the characters in the show
Everyone knows you are the problem.
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>>143219857
>Any couple not getting togheter by love at first sight is shallow and wrong.
Said no well adjusted person ever.
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>>143219984
>Shitposting?
You said in this post >>143219807 "Easy way to find out", which means you are trying to "test" your ack theory. Which also means you are intentionally trying to provoke people. That is shitposting.
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>>143220050
Not sure how i am derailing the thread
The topic is
>is there a better couple
This is a better couple.
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>>143219956
You agreeing does not make anything more or less wrong.

>>143220097
Again, "till death do us part".
Real feelings are not meant to be shallow.
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>>143219857
Here's the problem with your example on the husband and wife, there are too many variables. You say that people don't understand many things, but you seem to not understand the concept of feelings in general. You seem to be under the assumption that strong feelings stay strong as opposed to what actually happens which is they grow and wane in strength. A person who falls in love with their friend didn't start out with strong feelings, they developed, and the people who get married aren't always gonna feel the same kind of love as they do on their wedding day. Feelings change. That's how they work and not even vows can change that. Now, Sakura and Syaoran have shown at least a mutual affection for another so if you think actions speak louder then fine, let's wait until the new manga comes out and we'll see their actions. But for god's sake stop assuming that you're the only one who understands relationships. That's a good way to show you don't.

>>143219984
>>143220050
Actually, if we're gonna be on-topic, then we gotta post couples. In which case, make way for the superior couple
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>>143220116
Did not know you were a mind reader. Inpressive abilities, because i could uave meant a lot of things by that. For instance, testing if an image would post.
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>>143220167
That is not a couple. There is no romantic relationship between them in the series. You are posting it because of what >>143220116 said.
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>>143220192
>You agreeing does not make anything more or less wrong.
Nor less accurate. The show, the arguments and character actions factually disagree with your claims. Just watching the show is enough to notice.
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>>143220249
Let me just point out how obvious your behavior is. Note how people have been saying things against Syaoran x Sakura for a long time in the thread before you showed up. Notice how no one spammed like you are. You are the only person who acts the way you do.
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>>143220249
I don't have mind reading powers, and yet I'm still correct. Pretty impressive, right? You can lie if you want, but that "ack" search I did in the archives shows that you always act like this.
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>>143220305
>You are the only person who acts the way you do.
And who am i?
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>>143220443
You said right here >>143219228 "Time to post some madoka crack shipping?" then here said >>143219807 "Easy way to find out" while posting Madoka crack. People can see what you are doing.

As to who you are? You're the person who spams every thread.
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>>143220530
I see, i'm sorry you think that. Im just posting best couple.
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>>143220212
>there are too many variables
There actually aren't. And you didn't explain any of these variables. So I have no way of correcting you.

>they grow and wane in strength
If they wane is strength they are shallow. That's quite literally the definition. Feelings can change, but that means they are weak and not ideal.

>stop assuming that you're the only one who understands relationships
I don't. The statements I'm making are pretty much common sense. It's normal to think this way. This way being "something is not true just because I say it".
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>>143220603
No, you're spamming it. Like it was already pointed out.
>Let me just point out how obvious your behavior is. Note how people have been saying things against Syaoran x Sakura for a long time in the thread before you showed up. Notice how no one spammed like you are. You are the only person who acts the way you do.
From a previous post.
You are the only person spamming. The only one. Notice how there is no Syaoran x Sakura spamming. Because normal people know how to conduct themselves.
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>>143220603
That's not what I think, it's what I know as a matter of fact. You are also not posting a couple. Those two characters do not have a romantic relationship in the setting of their series. Which means, that you posting art of them in that situation belittles their in series relationships. Which then means, you don't actually like the characters.
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>>143220686
Interesting theory, but it has been rejected
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>>143220627
Cool so variables, Vegas weddings, shotgun weddings, marriage of convenience. But if you want "strong" feelings, fine. The average person who has ever been divorced had strong feelings for their partner. They weren't eternal or anything, but you normally don't get married to a person that you don't have any strong feelings for (Unless we go for any of those weddings at the start of this post). Hell, the average relationship that lasts still changes. Mind you at its core it's still love but an old married couple is probably not gonna love eachother like they did on the wedding day. Because people and their feelings change. Also, I notice that you're the only one here who seems to think that it's shallow to eventually break up with someone. Maybe what you think isn't the norm. It certainly isn't the norm to marry your middle school crush and have that relationship last though.
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>>143220775
See >>143219210
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>>143220756
>Which means, that you posting art of them in that situation belittles their in series relationships. Which then means, you don't actually like the characters.
Crack-kun? What are you doing here? Probably bored because no one is taking your old bait in the Nanoha thread, huh?
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>>143220775
Are you ever going to stop? Your behavior is not acceptable. You don't have the right to ruin threads for everyone.

Why do you even come to these threads? You don't care about couples in anime or care to discuss them, all you have been doing is spamming to attack people.
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>>143220903
Stop what? I am completely on topic.
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>>143220877
You are the one trying to bait here.
Do you notice how a thread goes from normal with discussion to you spamming about meta garbage the second you show up? Do you really see nothing wrong with that?

There is no such thing as "crack kun". No one at all agrees with you. Not a single person. There is nothing to support the person is even real.
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>>143220943
Stop spamming. Stop being an asshole. Stop doing all the spiting people.

>on topic
No, the topic is couples. You are not posting a couple. Madoka and Sayaka do not have a romantic relationship.
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>>143220995
That was not me ack-kun~
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>>143220877
>>143220943
>>143221071
See my first post >>143219324
And yes, it was you.

Why do you have do to do this. Do you really think it's fair that you ruin all these threads.
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>>143221116
Shhh, its ok. Just embrace the best couple and it will all be over
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>>143221071
Stop being off topic. This thread is not about your personal grudge with a boogieman nor is about tumblr shipping. It's about romantic relationships in anime. That is not what you are spamming images of.

Also, there is no such this as ack-kun. Sure is strange how only people who claim he's real are the one's who refuse to give proof what they are saying. Do you have any proof this ack person exists.
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>>143220826
What's funny is that he isn't even reacting to a break up or infidelity, or something actually meaningful. He's calling a couple kiddos shallow because they had feelings for a likable person and then moved on. All without even establishing a relationship and both before getting to know each other better and thus develop deeper feelings than just infatuation. Guess every little girl that thought a boy is cute without getting to anything before settling on to a proper couple is an unfaithful slut. Same with little boys.

God forbbid you if you if you don't swear eternal love for that cute girl you stared at the street for one minute thinking she seems nice.
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>>143220826
I just want to ask, do you think >>143221190 >>143221071 >>143220943 's behavior is acceptable.
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>>143221047
If you're not crack-kun then you're doing a great job impersonating him.
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>>143221190
>if yo don't let me have my way I will keep spamming forever
Very mature.

>>143221214
>Guess every little girl that thought a boy is cute
This is not even close to what happens in CCS. They explicitly show romantic feelings for the other person.
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>>143221194
I am in topic. The topic is better couple that op. You are the one derailing the thread by responding to me.
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>>143221297
>mature
>4chan
Pick one.
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>>143221267
>>143221301
You can't impersonate someone who does not exist.
Note: you are pretending to be multiple people and both of these people will not give proof that ack is real.

You are also not posting a couple. Just because you keep saying it's a couple doesn't mean it is.

And you are only making yourself look bad by spamming it constantly.
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>>143221301
>I am in topic.
No, you're not. Madoka and Sayaka are not a couple, therefore they are not on topic for the thread. You are also spamming which is against the rules either way.

>>143221369
I pick 4chan from 8-9 years ago.
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>>143221381
>spamming is anything i dont like
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>>143221297
>They explicitly show romantic feelings for the other person.
And explicitly based on infatuation. Neither Sakura nor Syaoran got to any meaningful stage with their first crush beyond getting awed by that person's awesomeness. It was when Sakura saw beyond her image Yukito that she realize his flaws and feelings and accepted those moving on from her own feelings for him. That was actually very thoughtful from her part. Syaoran was simply impressed by him and it was a plot point magic people attracting each other just like Kaho made Sakura feelings happy just because.

At the end bot got to learn to differentiate allurance from genuine love born from actual understanding and time invested with one another which made their feelings less "idealized" and more solid.

Ideal not always means best. I think this was one of the morals of the show.
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>>143221515
No, spamming is repeating the same thing over and over. You are spamming images of Madoka and Sayaka.

And let's point out again how you will obstinately refuse to give a single shred of evidence this this "ack" is real, and it's not just everyone taking issue with you for spamming and derailing threads.
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>>143200985
Nah i would be fine with it.
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>>143221595
Go to any Nanoha thread and wait for the guy that complains about crack ships meaning you don't like the series and gets nuclear about NanoFate marriage being official canon. That guy is Crack-kun.
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>>143221784
For a few moments I thought that was a muslim girl hiking up her hijab.
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>>143221710
That's not how proof works, sorry. You need to think harder. Proof is actually something tangible.

>hey, go shitpost, if someone says you're doing something wrong, that means they're crack kun
Awesome reasoning. You sure proved your point. It's not at all like many people can take issue with something bad.

And yeah, liking crack does mean you don't like a series. That's a pretty normal statement. Why should any think you like a series when you are belittling it.
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>>143221925
>The Devil's greatest trick was convincing the world he doesn't exist.

It kinda works because he has a pretty consistent and predictable pattern. It's easy to assume its the same guy.
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>>143220826
>variables, Vegas weddings, shotgun weddings, marriage of convenience
This are 100% irrelevant to the actual point. The statement could have been "couple" instead of husband and wife. The example is showing that the words "i have strong feelings" does not mean "feelings are strong."

>The average person who has ever been divorced had strong feelings for their partner.
No, they weren't strong. They were shallow. Just because they got to high point, doesn't mean they were actually strong. Say this is a scale to 100. 100 is eternal love.

Just because the people who get divorced normal state is 2 or 3 and they reach a 10, that doesn't mean they're feelings are wrong, when you measure them up to 100. The feelings they had are weak.

>>143221576
>Ideal not always means best.
Ideal literally means best.

Also, Sakura and Syaoran both got to the point where they were obsessive over him. They, like I already said, showed romantic feelings for him far past just blushing a little and thinking he looked good. They liked him as a person.
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>>143221860
motherfucker
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>>143222054
No
>shitpost
>get told off
That's not a predictable pattern. That's cause and effect. When you do something bad, people want that bad thing to stop, so they do something about it. Like picking up trash off the side walk or cleaning graffiti off a wall.

There is no pattern, you just assume anyone who says anything against you is your boogieman. You still have no proof.
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>>143214827
Too bad Ruby was pretty terrible in ORAS.
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>>143222122
Yeah, you're right. My initial points were weak. I was in a bit of a hurry, but that's not an excuse. What >>143221576
is spot on though. Syaoran and Sakura were infatuated with Yukito. Just because they go over him doesn't mean that their feelings for each other are automatically weak. It just means that their feelings for Yukito, specifically, we're not as strong as they'd perceived, in part because they didn't understand him as well as they thought they did, in part because people misinterpret things about their feelings all the time and partly because feelings change the time. However, just because your feelings for one person aren't "strong" as you put does not mean that you don't eventually learn to gain those strong feelings for someone else through time, and learning to understand someone. Tomoyo saw that Sakura and Syaoran understood one another in, possibly, a way that she isn't quite privvy given that they shared some pretty intense experiences together. Like I said, I love the idea of Sakura and Tomoyo together, but I think part of what makes Tomoyo so interesting is that she's willing to give up being with Sakura so that Sakura might gain a deeper happiness than she might have had with even Tomoyo
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>>143222122
>They liked him as a person.
They liked the ideal of the person they saw him as. It's after looking beyond that ideal that they grew up from that mentality and moved on and started to grasp what loving someone actually means.

Perfection is a flawed concept because its entirely subjected to each person's needs, preferences and circumstances. What's "ideal" to someone doesn't necessarily makes it ideal for the person next to you. Sakura and Syaoran worked because got to experience and deal with romantic feelings before and thus grasping better what these mean for both parts. Syaoran who started arrogant and selfish developed a very selfless love for Sakura while the latter learned to identify the feelings in her heart better and emphasize a bit better with people around her not taking their appreciations for granted which allowed her to recognize and accept Syaoran's feelings. Sakura was very innocent before that and needed those experiences and confrontation so she could start maturing.

They are a good couple formed on the basis of mutual trust and support to go through these experiences together and grow from those as people and lovers.
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>>143223542
This guy gets it.
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What the fuck is up with this thread? who let these contrarian Yurifags spread?
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>>143200227
These cups.
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>>143223739
It's just one guy sperging about Tomoyo and the other one doing classic crack hating bait.
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>>143221669
How about this one then?
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>>143201672
Been shipping this since before Christ. And before Fate, I'm honestly just glad to have a ready supply of OTP pics. Not entirely glad with Enkidu's design, but I warmed up.
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>>143223746
Hot
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>>143223912
>being against tumblr shipping nonsense is bait
No.
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Maybe not best but its the wackiest and funniest one.
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This thread needs some opposite-yuri in it's life.
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This thread is exactly why yurifags should be exiled to /u/.
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A pairing so canon that one of them ended up raising the child version of the other.
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>>143224679
I'm sorry to have contributed to it in any way.
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Fat bird and Cloaca is pretty A+
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These are exactly who you think they are. Love is beyond the limitations of sex. As the biscum maester race I can fully appreciate every combination of male and female. All you yuri is gay, all your yaoi is lesbian, all your het is switched.

There is no god here. Only shipping.
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>>143200853
the anime is gud but my friend told me what happened in the manga so i kinda feel like crying
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>>143223990
Yes crack kun~
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>>143225195
Answer this please. What evidence or proof will it take to make you accept that you are wrong about this crack kun nonsense.
If the mods talking about banning shippers shitposters doesn't do it, if ten years of history on this site being against tumblr shipping nonsense doesn't prove it, if IRC logs showing the mods flat out saying it's more than one person doesn't prove it, what does.

What will make you accept that you are wrong? Because all of your behavior and spamming is based around attacking a person who does not exist.
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>>143225392
>What will make you accept that you are wrong?
You can't, because they are the best couple~
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>>143225585
Anon, please... the best couple is clearly pic related
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>>143225585
You're such a scumbag. I didn't ask anything about the crack you spamming. I asked what would make you accept you are wrong about your paranoia boogieman.
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>>143225585
>>143225733
Fuck off, asshole.
Both of these posts are clearly yourself. And you are just trying to make an excuse for yourself to spam crack even more.
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>>143225733
Fuck you and the horse you rode in upon. Pink and blue are together forever.
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>>143225585
>>143225835
>>143225751
>>143225315
>>143220943
Going to point out again how no one at all acts like you, ever.
Everyone hates you.
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>>143225810
>n-o-t-h-i-n-g
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>>143225819
Actually, I'm a different anon. Though, I will admit, I'm not taking this thread all that seriously.
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>>143225910
Then you are admitting to having mental defects and being insane.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis
>delusions are false beliefs that a person holds on to, without adequate evidence. It can be difficult to change the belief, even with evidence to the contrary.

This is exactly how you are behaving.
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>>143225910
>>143225925
No, you are the same person. And you are a cancer. Fuck off already. No one likes you.
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>>143225910
>>143225835
>>143225585
Why aren't you replying to >>143222232
Could it be because you know you can't prove that anything said there is wrong?
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>>143226019
>arguing with a crazy person
>>143226033
But i wuv you.
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>>143226125
Fuck off.
And you're not fooling anyone with your obvious try hard "different" posting style.

Again, no one else in the world acts like you. Which is why everyone can spot you from a mile away.
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>>143226125
I have no other option. Because there is other way to stop you from ruining threads. The only option is to try and reason with you.
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>>143226125
>I am going to keep spamming crack until you stop replying to me because I think me getting the last post means I win
No, you win when you actually prove that you are correct. Not when you spam.
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>>143226260
>>143226271
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>>143226438
You know you're only making yourself look bad, right?
You are literally saying you refuse to be reasonable.
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>>143226438
Listen, !akemi. People are never not going to tell you off. It's not going to happen. You're never going to get your hug box where you can just be an asshole in pace. The normal state of people is to get rid of people who are problem. You are a problem, thus you will never have your way.

You don't get your way by spamming more, you get it by being right.
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>>143226438
Can you at least use sage for your spamming? I know you putting attacking people over everything else in your life, and that you will probably spam bump the thread more because I asked you to sage, but still.
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What the fuck is going on in this thread, I was expecting cute
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>>143226730
This will go on until the thread limit. I will not let you have your way, ever. Never. You are a shithead, and I will put you down for it until you stop. You will never have peace, never.

>>143226863
Pic related, and ban evading tripfag child fucker is spamming crack because he knows with the new era of mobs that he will be protected and he can get away with anything.
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>>143226730
I'm so glad that you are the awful person that you are. Because you make yourself look so bad that everyone hates you, thus making my job of proving to everyone else that you are bad person so much easier.
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>>143226730
>>143227023
Why do you get triggered so easily? Look at how upset you are. It takes literally nothing to set you off. You start spamming at the drop of a hat when you think there is someone around who has hurt you in the past. You're clearly crying and being upset about being made fun of for your personal taste.
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>>143227028
I actually quite enjoy this.
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>>143227084
Nah, I've seen you in the past. You're upset.
This is all because you're whinny little bitch who can't handle other people telling him off.
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>>143227023
>>143227084
I'm going to do a double negative test here.
I'm doing to wait to reply, and then see how long it takes you to spam your next crack image. Normally, you spam it right after someone says something because you want to prove that replying is wrong and you should just be ignored. But you will post crack faster anyway just because you have obsessed with doing the opposite of whatever anyone says.
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>>143227221
Why do only shitposters and assholes like crack pairs?
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>>143227287
I don't think I've never seen anyone in the world behave worse than you.
Though, I'm glad I proved my test correct. Because you started spamming faster just like I said you would.
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>>143227221
>>143227287
Fuck off and drink bleach, please.

>>143227251
Because liking crack inherently means you are self serving and care more about yourself than anything.

In this case, he's just attacking people because he's upset about he got called out being a mindless degenerate in the past.
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>>143200880
How did it end? I only watched the animu, but I heard the manga ended recently.
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>>143227188
You just told him off. Truly you're the hero this board needs. Please keep enlightening us.
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>>143227221
>>143227287
Do you really have nothing better to do with your life?

>>143227376
They end up as a couple, if that's what you wanted to know.
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>>143226863
>Turned back into a duck at the end

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.
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>>143227407
Well, it's what common sense, moot, and the old mods used to say to do when you have shitposters in a thread. Make sure they know they are stupid, and not welcome.

>>143227440
>he's this mad
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>>143227440
Reply to this post and stop being autistic.

>>143227482
They are not a couple. You need to fuck off and die to, you stupid spic.
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>>143227482
You are not a fan of Nanoha, Fate, or Signum. If you were, you wouldn't shit on their characters by demeaning their romantic relationships.
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>>143227544
Fuck off.
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>>143227544
I can't believe you think this is acceptable behavior.
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>>143227524
See? You even identified me and used your classic spic insult. You don't fool anyone, Crack-kun.
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>>143227602
That's because it's obvious who you are, wetback.
Go die of water poisoning.
Do you think people just can't tell who you are, or that only one person can?
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>>143227524
>>143227652
Racism is against the rules
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>>143227602
What's funny is that you did not address what was said. Which means you know that you are posting low quality content, shitting on the characters, and being shallow. But you don't care, so you just keep ruining threads for everyone else.

Tumblr shitposters stand out. They are not common here. That's why.
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>>143227716
It's not racism when it's accurate.
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>>143227763
I don't think that is how it works
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>>143227777
I would disagree with you, but you ha e quads.
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>>143227716
Yeah, against the rules, huh? You sure care a lot about those. Why are you not saying that spamming, trolling, flaming, off topic posting, and low quality content is against the rules? Oh right, because you're the one spamming crack.
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>>143227777
That is exactly how it works. Racism is something that means to be derogatory. Something can only be derogatory if it is unture.
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>>143227839
>sample
>rushing so fast to save shit just so you can spam it to attack people that you can't even see
It's both pathetic and funny at the same time.
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>>143227839
>ha e
>sample
Hah, he actually really is rushing to shitpost as hard as he can.
What is wrong with your life. Why is this so important to you that you attack anyone who says your shipping cancer is wrong.

Even if this "ACK" was real, do you really think no one else sees anything wrong with your behavior? You have been spamming crack to attack people for hours.
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>>143227985
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>>143228070
Don't you feel like you are wasting your life doing this?

Like, I know I'm spending the same amount of time on this, but I'm doing something good, while you're doing something bad. You're attacking people and harassing them. I'm working to better the site and stand up for being good.
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>>143228070
Everyone hates you.
There's nothing more to say, You refuse to answer anything anyone says.
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>>143228166
I genuinely enjoy it. How could it be wasted time?
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>>143228222
>I genuinely enjoy harasing people, making myself look bad, attacking others who have done nothing wrong, spamming, and being an all around asshole
And you don't think that's pathetic in the least.
What do you enjoy about this? Give a real answer. Spell out everything.

Like, you've been told in the past that you are not making anyone mad with crack, people take issue with you because you ruin threads. You are the problem. But you refuse to stop posting crack because you refuse to admit your are wrong about any of your assumptions.
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>>143228222
Nah, you're just butthurt that everyone hates you.
And you think the only way you can get back at them is to spam crack.
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>>143227652
It's easy because your style of mean posting is way too predictable and you're the only one who gets so easily triggered. I'm having a deja vu of 2012.
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>>143228430
I enjoy your reactions. I also enjoy best couple.
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>>143228468
You can hardly read English, you can't tell the difference between styles of typing.

No one is getting "triggered" you tumblr shitter. You're being told off for doing something wrong, as simple as that.
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>>143228438
Then post best couple i shall!
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>>143228438
>Look mommy I told someone on the Internet.
Not him but the guys investing time on these retorts look equally pathetic.
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>>143228482
>>143228555
No, that's the thing, you shouldn't be enjoying that. This means there is something wrong with you. You are also doing something wrong by attacking people.
>lol that's so funny this person said something logical and rational to me, then LOLOLOL i attacked him with something I know he is against LOL
Do you really think that's rational?
I want to really think about this. Outside of what you enjoy, do you really think your behavior towards other people is acceptable. People try to reason with you, and you attack them.

>>143228589
>Look mommy I told someone on the Internet.
off*
Nice broken English.
And no, the time is to help improve threads so they don't get spammed like this.
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>>143228482
>>143228555
Fuck off and end yourself.
This is not okay. You do not have the right to ruin threads and ruin things for people.
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>>143228482
>>143228555
For almost five hours you have been doing this.
Why are you such an asshole?
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>>143228833
He's been doing this for almost a year straight now every single day. It's not just five hours.

Look the word "ACK" in the catalog and you will see him constantly calling people that when he spams. It's his go to word.
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>>143228888
Ack
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>>143228853
Answer this post >>143228728
It's funny, because your patterns are actually what's obvious. You always bitch out and stop replying as soon as you realize you can't say some meaningless one liner to reply to a post.
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>>143228921
Haha, look at this pathetic retard. You still posting making yourself look bad. What kind of retard does this. Haha. I enjoy your reactions and laughing at how stupid you are.
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>>143228853
>>143228921
Hang yourself. End your worthless life.
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>>143228728
>>143228938
Answered.
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>come in expecting cute
>some autist is having an actual conniption fit over shipping
>biting literally every bait thrown at him
Incredible. The last time I saw such an astounding display of mental illness was pic related. People who take shipping this seriously need help.
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Christ, crack spammers are the worst.
Literally derail threads for their personal grudges and spiteful nature to have to shoehorn their pairs for attention.
Fuck Madoka crack content and the spammer with serious autism.
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>>143228921
>>143229049
How do you feel about the fact you do not make anyone mad with your crack spam.
Do you honestly think that if anyone was actually mad at crack they would be in this thread knowing that you are doing to spam it?

I also, I find it funny that you are double posting to try and cover up the fact you can't actually prove anything anyone says wrong.
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>>143229045
>>143229049
It's not bait. You are being told off for shitposting.
That's not the same thing.
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>>143226863
It started out nice, let's save it.
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>>143229049
There is nothing wrong with that image other than you being stupid enough to save a resampled imaged.

No one is actually mad at shipping. Like you keep getting told the problem is YOU. You are what people want to get rid of.

>>143229140
>>143229179
Are you going to hang yourself any time soon?
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>>143229140
>>143229179
Enough is enough, fuck off.
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>mods alow this to happen
What else is there to prove that the moderation on this site is awful.
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>>143229049
>mental illness
See >>143226019
And the irony is that you are posting this while posting a page that proves everything you think and say wrong. Which means you are "difficult to change the belief(s), even with evidence to the contrary."

You're literally insane.
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>>143229297
They don't just allow it. They defend the crack spamming. Watch how it will not be deleted when a mod shows up.

>>143229355
>he's still posting
Hah, what a brain dead scumbag.
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>>143229355
I want you to reread this post >>143220305

I hope you realize how obvious it is who you are and how no one else in the world acts like you.
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>>143229481
Haha, holy shit you are pathetic. You are literally staring at the thread waiting to reply as soon as someone else replies telling you off.

Haha, holy fuck that's sad.
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>>143229481
Hang yourself. It's not like you have any worth as a person anyway.
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>>143229481
Don't you feel stupid for making yourself look so bad?
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>>143229578
Fuck off and die.
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>>143229578
>he is this pathetic
Seek medical help. You really really need it.
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>>143229644
Fuck off and die.
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>>143229644
Pathetic. Mindless. Loser. Literally no friends. Literally everyone hates him. How can you not laugh at that.
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>>143228728
>improve threads
Oh boy. This is gold.
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>>143229716
Hang yourself, please.
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>ITT: some ass ravaged madosaya fag dumping out their folder
Could've swarn Sayaka just messes around with Madoka since she had a crush on Kamijou at that point only to move on and fall for Kyouko for all the hardships she went through for Sayaka.
It amazes me how so much butthurt the minority of the Madoka fandom can be because of their crack not being relevant.
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>>143229704
>>143229716
Yes, getting you to stop posting would improve threads drastically.
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>>143229130
>>143229150
>>143229270
>>143229438
I don't touch and will never touch those cancerous Madoka threads but it wouldn't surprise me that you're all cancer or you're one seriously ill person samefagging and crafting some hilariously elaborate meta, if this had been pre-2008, you would have been laughed off this board. You are taking fictional character relationships way too seriously, it's pathetic.
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>>143229809
He's not a MadoSaya fag. He just spams anything that's crack. Because he knows as a matter of fact it's something bad and that he shouldn't be posting it.

>>143229850
>>143229865
Cry more, retard. Look at how pathetic you are.

Haha, if this was pre-2009 you would have been banned already, because the mods did their job back then.

>seriously ill person
See >>143226019
You're the mentally ill one. And the one who's samefagging.
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>>143229850
>>143229865
>if this had been pre-2008
You would have been banned for the cancer that you are.

Like you keep getting told this is NOT about the characters. It's about YOU. Look at how you are the one spamming the living shit out of this thread.

ANd here the the leaked IRC logs and the mods of 4chan talking about banning shit shipeprs like you. Too bad all the good mods left.
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This thread is a trainwreck. Sasuga ACK. Posting real best couple.

He will now call me !akemi and claim that I'm only changing what I'm posting in a poor attempt to hide the fact that I am literally the only one who does this and clearly everyone else hates me.
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nice try
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>>143230512
>if I say what I'm doing before someone actually calls me out on it then that makes it seem less creditable when they say it
Nope, it really is obvious who you are. And yes, you are posting a canon pair to try and look like someone else.

And of course, it's obvious who you are because you not only refuse to accept that "ACK" is not real, but you refuse to fault the person (you) who said he spamming crack to attack people because he thinks the "reactions" are funny.
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>>143230761
>I've actually been following you around to every thread you post in to ruin it for you.
The irony is this is exactly what you are doing, save for you are actually the one making the threads so you have a place to attack people.

So, if you're not !Akemi, why do you refuse to offer any proof this ack person is real and it's not just something you are making up. How come you refuse to say something wrong with spamming crack specifically to spite people.
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>>143230512
>>143230761
Fuck off, shitbag. It really is obvious who you are, and you posting canon pairs doesn't change that. No, really. Why don't you list a single thing this "ACK" actually did wrong.
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>>143230888
>>143230895
I don't need proof that you're real. Actually you probably are just a figment of my deranged imagination. I just really enjoy making you suffer. We're like a perfect autistic pair you and I, forever locked in an eternal struggle. The fate of canon pairings hung in the balance, entire fandoms hinge on our eternal war.
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>>143210445
T R A S H
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>>143231045
No, actually everyone just hates you. It's not you and "me". It's you and literally everyone else.
And you realize it's obvious you just refuse to let this die, right. Because you want to attack people for as long as possible.
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>>143231045
>implying only one person thinks you're cancer
See >>143230013
God, wish the old mods would come back and actually enforce the rules.
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>>143201050
He was really hot in his human form
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>>143230761
I don't follow Madoka but I'm amazed the shitposting escalated to this level. I'm assuming the ack guy is the one responding over-zealously to teasing and accusing everyone of samefag? Other than the samefagging, his posting style reminds me of the TMSfag/famicom guy. Did all the other posters just give up?
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Too bad about the thread and all
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>>143231248
Hah, wow. You are pathetic.
You realize it's obvious you are replying to yourself, right? Because the "other person" you are replying to give you no reason to believe "them". That's what makes it obvious you are replying to yourself. Because you are believing someone who gives no proof for what they are saying. So you want to make it look like someone believes you by you replying to yourself.

See how that works?

>to teasing
It's not teasing. It's you shitting up every single yuri and Madoka thread for the past year straight. Literally every single one.

And again, it's even more obvious who you are because you will not admit there is anything wrong with spamming crack for 5 hours straight to try and spite someone.
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>>143200227
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>>143231369
>Come into thread like a thief in the knight expecting plenty of examples of cute couples for me to pick up new manga/anime

>Get this Madoka-shipping shitposting time loop scenario instead

This is my punishment.

Post Panty/Brief because a show has never made me suffer whiplash so hard from how much I didn't care about their interactions to going full doki doki mode during their episode.
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>>143210445 Agreed.
A shame ORAS chapter is bad.
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>>143231491
Just poke your head into the next shoujo manga thread if you don't find it too detestable
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>>143228482
Mami x Madoka > Sayaka x Madoka
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>>143231153
>It's you and literally everyone else.
I don't hate him. I barely even know anything about him.

You on the other hand.
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>>143231491
>Come into thread like a thief in the knight
>I'm going to cum inside you, Knight-chan
>Thief-kun, your dick is entering me womb! Your sperm are stealing my eggs!
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>>143231248
ACK is an autist of the highest order who likely suffers from paranoid schizophrenia or some such as he believes that one (or like three, I could never tell) people follow him around the internet making his life hell. He vehemently hates crack shipping (mostly in the madoka fandom as far as I've seen but it could be elsewhere) and sees it as an affront to the fictional characters.

Were I so inclined I could dig up the thread on Dynasty scans where in he posted some scans of his which had a last page which was essentially an essay railing against crack shippers and how they ruin the fandom ect. The admins posted the doujin while removing the page because it was frivolous. What resulted was an autistic shitstorm of glorious proportions where in he basically threatened them for days while trying to maintain the moral highground. I wish I could find the thread easily cause it's quite something.

Anyway, once he gets started in a thread he'll accuse everyone in the thread who isn't him of being a former tripfag, !akemi, like he did to your post. He'll be the anon accusing you of "attacking everyone" and "not responding to my questions" and so on every post.

If you want to make him mad post non-canon pairings.
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>>143231612
Oh look, he's shitposting with a different crack pair to try and pretend he is someone else.
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>>143231677
>Your sperm are stealing my eggs!
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>>143231612
Looks like you gave up pretending you like the canon pairs, and stopped using this >>143231045 persona so you could just start spamming crack and harassing people again.
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>>143231677
I swear to god I looked over the post twice and didn't notice. That said,

>Tfw no cute romance between a dick-ass thief and a straight-edge justice loving knight
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>>143231706
Nah, I'm still here. Just went and did other things and was responding to this >>143231248 kind anon who wasn't up to date on our eternal war.
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>>143231684
Maybe this ACK guy is just Crack-kun after he got tired of being ignored in Nanoha threads.
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>>143231684
>accusing you of "attacking everyone" and "not responding to my questions" and so on every post.
That's because that's exactly what you do, you fucking moron. Just look at your post. You reply to yourself with this block of text bull shit that doesn't amount to anything while giving no proof for anything you say, WHILE you ignore this post >>143231398 and this post >>143230888 and tons of others. All of which are pointing out how you refuse to actually give evidence for anything.
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>>143201414
>Even alternate Tomoyos are gay for Sakura
Princess Tomoyo from TRC was heavily hinted to have a thing for Kurogane, though.
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how do you cope with knowing that you'll never experience love as supreme as this
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>>143200227
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>>143231773
That person you're replying to >>143231248 is you.
And you didn't bring anyone up to date. You just said a bunch of random things that have no substance. Note how you refuse to address posts that give IRC logs of the mods from 4chan saying that they ban shitposters like you. Why does "everyone" refuse to address that?

>>143231781
You're an asshole, you're not a fan of Nanoha. You don't like Nanoha and Fate. It was proven to you why. You just ignored and blocked it out. People stopped trying to be reasonable with you because you never answered what people say.
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>>143231835
>The one straight Tomoyo in all the universes falls for a gay man
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New chapter when?
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>>143231773
>>143231781
Can't help but notice you still have yet to give any proof at all that this "ACK crack kun" person is real. Can someone explain to me why all people who support crack and spam it also refuse to give evidence supporting anything they say? You wrote this >>143231684 and it all amounts to nothing because, why should I believe you? There's nothing in it other than baseless statements. Give me a source.
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>>143231369
Post more cute.
>>143231398
>>143231928
I'm not reading more of your paranoid ramblings but I'll give you this last reply. If you've been here more than a few years, you should know that responding to bait does nothing but egg them on, literally all they want is your reaction and you are giving it to them while providing incentive for them to continue. The extent of your paranoia and the actual effort this all takes without adequate payoff makes it clear that this isn't just shitposting but an actual illness, I can only urge you to get medical help because it would seriously improve your quality of life which from what I'm seeing seems quite miserable right now.
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>>143230578
This.
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>>143211018
>They are cute but not an actual couple until now.
In the manga (i.e. the canon work) she did give Syaoran a clear answer.
Hell, she did the same thing in the movie.

In the manga you're even told Sakura and Syaoran kept writing each other during the time Syaoran was in Hong Kong.

In the new manga we're told Sakura barely spent a moment not thinking about him while he was away.

That being said, the new manga also hinted the possibility of them being separated again. I wonder if Tsubasa World Chronicle will be responsible for this. It seems ever since Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle was released, Syaoran became CLAMP's punching bag.
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>>143232039
Most of it is fluff from the same artist though and I suspect its all been seen before
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>>143200227
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>>143232094
I suspect World Chronicle is dead in the water unless a whim takes them
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Oh wait, I'm sorry, they ditched this pairing for "TOMATOES" instead.
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>>143232039
Yeah? If you've been here for years how come you don't know that telling shipping shitposters to fuck off and mocking them has always been a normal thing? How come you don't know that telling off shitposters is actually encouraged by the mods, moot, and common sense?
Just look at this post alone to see how wrong you are >>143227496

It's not paranoia, because you have shown many times over that you will samefag and spam until you literally pass out just for the sake of attacking people.

And you also give no one any reason to think you're not samefagging, because all the people you pretend to be act the exact same way. Every single time.
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>>143211111
Everyone is bi in this manga.
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>>143232039
I only need to say one thing to prove who you are.
The crack spammer, you, flat out said he (you) is posting crack to bait people. The fact you don't take issue with him (you), but instead take issue with "me" shows that you are insanely biased and do not function on reason.
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>>143223362
>>143223542
>>143223617
>However, just because your feelings
Actually, it kind of does. Because that's the whole point. By having shallow feelings in one case, that shows what type of person you are. It not only shows that you are the type of person who has shallow feelings and give up on them easily, it shows you are the kind of person who "loves" other people easily. They hand out their love like metaphorical candy. Cheap, and to many.

>interesting is that she's willing to give up
She's literally nothing but the series' sandbag. Plot enforced sandbag.

>is spot on though.
This happens to be your own post, which I now realize after you "both" suddenly came back from the thread being on page 9 and "both" just pasted to blocks of text.

>ideal of the person
You mean "idea" not "ideal". And you're wrong either way. Because of the previous points I made. They liked someone based on shallow reasons, then they formed another relationship based on shallow reasons. And they're surely do it again. Because that's the type of people they are.

>Sakura and Syaoran worked because got to experience and deal with romantic feelings before
No, they "worked" because the plot forced them to. Previous shallow relationship does not mean you are suddenly the expert on love. In fact, it means the exact opposite. Because romantic relationships are in fact based on strong feelings, not weak ones.

>learned to identify the feelings in her heart
You are straight up agreeing that she is shallow here. Your logic is that because she loved someone, that she can love someone else more, or something. But that's totally wrong. What good is "love" is she just hands it around.

>Sakura was very innocent
So to be clear, you are saying that Sakura's feelings, which are handed out to multiple people and change often are just as strong as a person who is 100% faithful? Yeah, totally legit.
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>yurifag salt is genuinely this deep
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>>143232434
What's it like being this subhuman? Don't you have any motivation to better yourself?
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>>143232478
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>>143232482
You have a lot of anger Anon
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>>143231684
Can you provide some links and proof? Your wall of text doesn't actually tell me anything. All I see from this thread is someone spamming shipping art. Which is bannable behavior in an of itself.
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>>143232522
>Pandora Hearts will never be adapted properly

Maybe it's for the best
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>>143232344
Is it really fair to expect someone at her age to be able to sort out her feelings to that extent though? She's just beginning to get to the point where she can understand different types of love.
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>>143232568
Calm as a lake a warm summer afternoon.
I don't need to be in any altered emotional state to point out that you are one of the most disgusting human beings to ever live. It's just an observation.
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>>143232634
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>>143232655
If other people can do it, why can't she? Does her ignorance and ineptitude excuse her hurting the people around her?
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>>143232730
Not everyone matures at the same rate.
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>>143232094
I think he's hiding something and knows more about what's going on that he seems. Check how suspicious this bear looks.
>>143232173
They set up a new plot point and an end goal, I definitely got the impression it will continue in another arc somewhere down the line but I doubt they'll touch it until clear card is done.
>>143232309
What are you even talking about.
>dont respond to bait if you want it to stop
>why didnt you respond to the bait? this proves you are the baiter
Great logic.
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>>143232754
Doesn't matter at all. That does not excuse her. This was already explained to you.
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>>143232780
Your dumb ass greentext does not actually address what I said. The point is that you take issue with someone doing nothing wrong.

And as someone else already said, you are ignoring how everyone and everything proves your wrong. If you ignore a pile of shit, does it go away? Of course not. You need to get rid of it yourself.
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>>143232084
>The whole story is almost centered around Nanoha and Fate's relationship and love.
Only in seasons 1 and 2 they still get some focus later but they aren't the center of attention anymore. Nanoha is about families of all kinds and their stories. Nanoha is more a vehicle to look at said stories rather than a protagonist (aside of blasting the shit out of baddies in awesome fashion).

I consider myself a fan because I enjoy the setting and characters but also am aware of the limits of the show. Nevertheless is not an impedinent to enjoy the interactions of characters I think have good chemistry and I know i'm not alone on that as I suck at drawing but i find these various cool and cute Fatenum pics from people that also think they look good together. You're like the only person i got to know who gets his jimmies rustled by this. Most normal NanoFate fans just express that they like their couple better post some nice image and move on. Other even acknowledged Signum and Fate have cute moments.

Too bad your logic doesn't consider me as a fan of the show but fortunately you're not in charge of deciding who and how people can approach to this franchise and enjoy it.

I admit reactions like yours are amusing to watch for a time but it gets boring after a while which is why people stop answering to you. So go ahead, you can think you told them and enjoy your "victory".
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>>143232688
I think you're fingerpointing wildly in your anger and hoping to hit any mark.
Or I'm taking shitty bait.
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>>143232814
It does matter. You asked "why can't she?" The answer is that she has not reached the level of mental maturity for it to be reasonable to expect her to understand romance.
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>>143232933
I think you're trying to dismiss people as angry so you don't actually have to admit you are the problem.
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>>143232967
>The answer is that she has not reached the level of mental maturity
That's her own fault.
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>>143232983
All I'm doing is dumping pictures and watching faggots without their containment thread circlejerk

And slowly beginning to see why yuri gets shit on so hard
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>>143200227
>race-mixing couple
>good
Race traitors like Xiaolang need to die
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I have no idea what's happening in this thread.
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>>143204099
>Dorohedoro
>finished
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Good fucking luck
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>>143233133
Pure fucking hatred my fellow anon. Keep your OTPs close, like gripping tight a soft pillow while in the middle of a nightmare.

We're all gonna make it.
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Objectively speaking, this is the best couple.
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>>143232730
This is the stupidest logic I've seen in a while.
>he can perform surgery, why can't you?
Not everyone has the same capabilities. There are many things individuals are capable of, it doesn't mean everyone else is.
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>>143232909
No, even in StrikerS Nanoha and Fate's relationship is a key part of the story. And even if it wasn't, that wouldn't change how you are in the wrong for degrading their relationships.

>I consider myself a fan
It doesn't matter what you consider, you're not a fan. Being a fan means you appreciate something. To appreciate means you recognize its full worth. The full worth of Nanoha, Fate, Sigum, etc is not to be used as shallow and mindless shipping fodder. No where in their full value is a shallow romantic relationship for the sake of garbage shipping. Thus, you do not appreciate the characters, as don't see them at their full worth. Thus, you are not a fan. It's as simple as that. It doesn't matter if you think you are, you do not fit the definition.

>chemistry
This word means literally nothing. No, really. It's just a tumblr buzzword that means "I subjective like them together". There nothing at all in the story that suggests Fate and Signum have romantic feelings for each other.

>Most normal NanoFate fans just express that they like their couple better post some nice image and move on.
No, that is just on shitholes like your spic forums and tumblr.

>gets his jimmies rustled by this
Have you ever considered I'm sitting at my PC, straight faced, just typing and and not showing any emotion at all. Have you ever considered that people can tell you off for being scum with out being mad?

>your logic doesn't consider me as a fan of the show
The very definition of the word proves you are not a fan.

And you didn't address what I said. You degrade Nanoha and Fate's relationships. You insult their characters. How do you think that is okay.
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>>143233021
So it's yurifags' fault for the actions of a few?
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>>143233020
She can't change biology. She like 12. There's a reason minors are not held fully accountable for everything they do. Their actual brains have literally not finished developing.
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>>143233262
This is not a trained skill. This is basic thinking.
Sakura is shallow and insensitive. Get over it.
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This thread is some good proof that shipping was a mistake. Just burn it all down.
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>>143233305
>even in StrikerS Nanoha and Fate's relationship is a key part of the story.
In StrikerS, they were still trying to push the ferret.
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>>143233021
No, you're clearly saying other things, like calling people mad. Moron.
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>Shouma never fucked a burning Ringo
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>>143233335
The crack spammer isn't even a yurifag. He just does anything and everything he can to attack people.

>>143233385
Not really. Considering Nanoha blushes at pretty much everything.
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>>143233354
Again, you are saying this like she is actually doing something that takes a huge amount of skill and that all the bad things she does can be excused with "lol xd age!" They can't. Other characters, not just Tomoyo are smart and able to figure things out.

Shayron followed Tomoyo around for a few hours and figured out she liked Sakura romantically. Are you seriously saying Sakura is so stupid and "undeveloped" that she couldn't accomplish the same thing with the years she's been around Tomoyo?
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>>143233447
They had Fate set Nanoha and Yuuno on a date at that dinner. StrikerS was a low point of the series in everything but sales.
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>>143232967
According to shallow-kun. Sakura should be wise at age ten to handle all important descicions in her life with clear concsience and complete understanding.

Learning from experience is what humans do. I don't know what species he thinks the main cast of CCS belongs to but clearly it must be one made of perfecto celestial beings that have all the answer after being born.

People improve upon their mistake and even then neither Sakura or Syaoran were mistaken. They were just kids impressed by a person they perceived as wonderful and likable. Things wasn't like they thought but it gave them insight to think more clearly. Also.

>>143232344
>They liked someone based on shallow reasons, then they formed another relationship based on shallow reasons.
Wrong both are second loves to each other that formed through getting to know each other, building trust and sharing not only of feelings and preferences but also goals, fears and flaws over the course of almost a year and a half (way more than many "good" relationships last). They didn't fell for each other like their did for Yukito. They slowly developed their mutual feelings even if they were oblivious of them at first (although keen eyed people like Tomoyo and Touya noticed as far back as season 1).

Or to put it more simple. You don't willingly offer your life for another person just for shallow reasons. If there was any doubt of the autenticity of their feelings those were smashed by the second movie.

And they're surely do it again.
Considering Sakura and Syaoran are canon endgame I can safely say this is a load of bs.

Even Tomoyo isn't completely free of taking an immature approach to things. She never has the courage to step forward and be clear to Sakura. Had she did it early it could probably be a game changer.
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>>143233542
Romance is an advanced topic. Plenty of adults don't get it.

>Other characters, not just Tomoyo are smart and able to figure things out.
People mature at different rates.

>Are you seriously saying Sakura is so stupid and "undeveloped" that she couldn't accomplish the same thing with the years she's been around Tomoyo?
Yeah. See above.
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>>143233542
Magic in CCS is drawn from a person's intelligence. Until they know how to properly control it, it makes them kind of stupid.
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>>143201203
I agree.

>>143231918
Never ever. Arata will cuck him for the last and final time.
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>>143233133
>intertwine fingers
Were they confirmed?
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>>143233642
That makes sense
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>>143233356
I don't even care about her as a character but it's hilarious how much you misunderstand human growth. She is a fourth-grader and Tomoyo is unnaturally mature for her age. People have drastically different rates of growth and you are simplifying it and pretending that everyone must be evaluated on the standards of the highest performing person. Their brains are still in a stage of development, they are learning as they go.
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>>143233631
>>143233592
>>143233696
I can't but cringe at how you think your one size fits all excuse is actually a valid line of reasoning.

I already explained how it, and you just keep repeating the same thing over and over. It's pointless to talk to you. Even more so because you trying really hard to pretend you are multiple people.

>Had she did it early it could probably be a game changer.
Wrong. CLAMP flat out stated this would never happen.
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>>143233696
>udrrr age
Just to copy and paste what I already said.

Again, you are saying this like she is actually doing something that takes a huge amount of skill and that all the bad things she does can be excused with "lol xd age!" They can't. Other characters, not just Tomoyo are smart and able to figure things out.

Shayron followed Tomoyo around for a few hours and figured out she liked Sakura romantically. Are you seriously saying Sakura is so stupid and "undeveloped" that she couldn't accomplish the same thing with the years she's been around Tomoyo?
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>>143233786
Oh well I am convinced now
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>>143233548
No, Fate said she'd leave them alone for a few minute so they could catch up because they hadn't seen each other in years.

Fuck, Nanoha and Yuuno could have been blushing in that scene because they both know Nanoha and Fate got crazy intimate with their relationship. It's a pretty good sign someone is not a romantic interest when they get their one scene together to not have any dialog at all.
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>>143232730
I don't get what you mean by talking about excuses.
Sakura was 10-11 at the time, just experiencing her first love (Yukito), which she later came to realise was no different from what she felt for her father (this being pointed out in the manga, I don't recall if it was the same in the anime).

Sakura in both manga and anime was portrayed as someone who cared a lot about others and tried hard to understand them. However, being young and inexperienced she hardly understood romance (she was unaware of Syaoran and Tomoyo's feelings for her, she was unaware of Touya and Yukito's feelings for one another same with Eriol and Kaho, she was only aware about Chiharu's feelings (for Yamazaki) and Rika's feelings (for Terada), because they were open about it).

So, her ignorance is very well excused by her age and lack of experience. You say it doesn't because she never did anything to try to understand Tomoyo's feelings, but there was never anything for her to try to understand, since she simply didn't find anything wrong. She thought Tomoyo was a bit of an oddball due to her fondness to tape her and dress her up, but as far as Sakura was concerned that was Tomoyo simply displaying her affection. Tomoyo's behaviour never raised any alerts on Sakura's mind and thus there was never a thing for her to try to understand.

That's all there is to it, not to mention Tomoyo herself never told Sakura about her own feelings, even though she knew her very well, that Sakura would never berate her for her feelings, and that she would take her confession, consider her own feelings and giver Tomoyo and answer. And yet, despite Tomoyo knowing the type of person Sakura is, she never made a single move.

Now, whilst I agree CLAMP indeed is heavily biased against yuri, this doesn't change the fact Sakura was never written to have feelings for Tomoyo, as Ohkawa herself said, Sakura never held those sort of feelings for her best friend.
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>>143233447
>Considering Nanoha blushes at pretty much everything.
Which usually happens to be people she enjoy the company of.

>>143233305
>The very definition of the word proves you are not a fan.
That's your definition, unless you want to bring real sources. Wikias don't count.

Or don't. Your definition of fan can't stop me from enjoying mi favourite show and characters just as this typing doesn't mean anything for any of us except kill time. And posting cool pics.
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>>143233839
What else is there to say? You slightly reworded what you said, reposted it, and expected that to some how change the fact someone countered your first point pre-rewording.

The fact they are forced to be the end game couple by the plot it self doesn't actually mean they aren't shallow. Because again, we as viewers have already seen them act shallow in other relationships. The only thing that says their relationship is strong is literal words by the writers. Their actions in the story do not reflect that.
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>>143233786
>I already explained how it
Your explanation is flawed and you haven't fo anything but repeating it in the face of more solid arguments. It comes down to "they can't learn things because I say so".

You can't demand new arguments if you don't improve yours first. You're free to stop posting as you please.
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>>143233918
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/appreciate
>1. Recognize the full worth of:

You do not appreciate the characters. It's as simple as that. You may enjoy them as shallow tools for your amusement, but you do not like them for the characters that they are.

>Wikias don't count.
http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k70847&pageid=icb.page346376
Even major top end school around the world say there is nothing wrong with wikipidea.

>can't stop me
Here's the thing, I shouldn't have to stop, YOU shouldn't want to be insulting and degrading Nanoha, Fate, and Singum. You should want to stop yourself, because should want to be a good person.
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>>143234046
>Your explanation is flawed and you haven't fo anything but repeating it
This is literally exactly what I just said to you. Your arguments have boiled down to "no u!!"

>in the face of more solid arguments
Your arguments are trash and not "solid" because you say so.

>they can't learn things because I say so"
No, whether they can learn or not is irrelevant. They already showed their true characters by falling for people easily.
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>>143233786
Your reasoning makes no sense and you're actively ignoring biology while failing to understand how human emotions actually work.
>Even more so because you trying really hard to pretend you are multiple people.
>anyone who disagrees with me is a samefag
Retard.
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>>143234007
>Their actions in the story do not reflect that.
Kek.

I honestly recommend you to watch the show again. The japanese version this time.
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>>143233903
>So, her ignorance is very well excused by her age and lack of experience.
Shayron followed Tomoyo around for a few hours and figured out she liked Sakura romantically. Are you seriously saying Sakura is so stupid and "undeveloped" that she couldn't accomplish the same thing with the years she's been around Tomoyo?

You keep dodging this. That alone proves everything you are saying is wrong about her "age".

>Tomoyo herself never told Sakura about her own feelings
You need to stop samefagging. Because you keep making the exact same argument across all of your posts. >>143233592
>Had she did it early it could probably be a game changer.

>Now, whilst I agree CLAMP indeed is heavily biased against yuri, this doesn't change the fact Sakura was never written to have feelings for Tomoyo, as Ohkawa herself said, Sakura never held those sort of feelings for her best friend.
No shit? Like, what are you even saying. No one argued otherwise.
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>>143234348
>Are you seriously saying Sakura is so stupid and "undeveloped" that she couldn't accomplish the same thing with the years she's been around Tomoyo?
Sakura's pretty stupid. Like dense harem lead levels of stupid here.
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>>143234348
Are you seriously saying everyone matures at the same rate?
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>>143234268
God, I am so sick of newshit retards. "kek" is not just a replacement for "lol" and using it as "lol" is just as bad. Kek is from some /v/ shitposting meme. You are so ignorant.

I'm not ignoring anything. I have explained multiple times how age is not a factor here. Because multiple other characters with in the story do what you say is impossible for people their age.

not just Tomoyo are smart and able to figure things out.

Shayron followed Tomoyo around for a few hours and figured out she liked Sakura romantically. Are you seriously saying Sakura is so stupid and "undeveloped" that she couldn't accomplish the same thing with the years she's been around Tomoyo?
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>>143234462
Are you seriously going to keep saying this even though you know it's wrong?

People maturing at different rates doesn't excuse her being as stupid as two year old.
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>>143234235
>No, whether they can learn or not is irrelevant.
It's the most relevant thing. One of the themes of the show is how love changes people in its varios ways.

>They already showed their true characters by falling for people easily.
This is a very childish and immature rambling. And by the way, it showed they were innocent, not shallow. Even if her feelings were one sided Sakura was pretty genuine in her affections for Yukito also.

>Sakura is shallow because she shows affection to everyone.
It's called being a kind emphatic person you insensitive moron. I kind of get your inner yurifag gets at Syaoran but if you don't like Sakura's loving personality I don't know why you follow the show at all. She's not a trophy to reward Tomoyo's endurance.
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>>143234523
Does not realizing someone has romantic feelings for you when they haven't made it clear really make you as stupid as a two-year old?
There are plenty of adults who still can't manage that.
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>>143234594
>One of the themes of the show is how love changes people in its varios ways.
This changes nothing, dumb ass. That being one of the themes of the show does not change how it also means they are shallow. One does not excuse the other.

>it showed they were innocent, not shallow
Again, one does not exclude the other.

>Sakura was pretty genuine in her affections for Yukito also.
Nope. Because she dropped them. Thus they were shallow.

>It's called being a kind emphatic person
No, it's not. She shows romantic love to multiple people. Thus her "love" is cheap.

>>143234618
Shayron: HOURS

Sakura: YEARS

There is no excuse.
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>>143234762
>There is no excuse.
I don't call that a convincing argument.
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>>143234781
Maybe you should stop being fucking retarded.

Do you realize it's been copy and pasted six (6) times and you have yet to address it once.

Shayron figures out Tomoyo's romantic feelings in a matter of hours. Sakura fails to figure out Tomoyo's romantic feelings over the course of their entire life time of being near each other.

There is no development delay that can account this drastic difference in ability to understand things.
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>>143234866
Just you saying that it's inexcusable doesn't make it inexcusable.
Differences in development speed can indeed stretch for multiple years. That's the whole point.
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Thanks for the laugh, guys!
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>>143234938
Just saying it's excusable doesn't make it excusable.
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>>143234997
Luckily I presented some actual excuses then.
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>>143234866
>Shayron figures out Tomoyo's romantic feelings in a matter of hours.
This is wrong. Syaoran observed them for months before reaching that conclusion and it was only because Tomoyo approached him first and opened the thread about Sakura's feelings. Plus, we know Syaoran is sharper. Also as I mentioned way back only him and Eriol (you know, the mastermind) got to ever notice. If you'll call Sakura a moron for not noticing you must incluye the whole rest of the cast including Tomoyo's mother, their other friends, everyone.

That we as audience got to see and hear more than the characters in the show is another thing.

Thank god we're about to hit limit.
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>>143234617
DELETE THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS!
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>>143235015
Luckily I presented some actual excuses then.

And no, you actually did.

>>143235035
>Syaoran observed them for months before reaching that conclusion
No, he watched her for a while. But he found out that conclusion over a a day.

Also, even if it was months, that would not excuse Sakura being YEARS behind.
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>>143235035
>Plus, we know Syaoran is sharper.
>implying
He's just as dumb as Sakura, and always falls for Yamazaki's stories.
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>>143235118
>Also, even if it was months, that would not excuse Sakura being YEARS behind.
Why not? That's not actually that huge of a difference, especially given the fact that different people mature at different rates, as you may recall.
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>>143234617
That's sweet.
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>>143235254
>Why not?
Because that would put her in mental retardation territory.

>mature
And this is the last time I'm doing to reply to you if you use this word.
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>>143235234
Just as nauve but is sharper and good at gathering/using information. Also helps that unlike Sakura he have enough malice to actually have doubts about misteryous people.

Its one of the downsides of being as pure as her.
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>>143235317
>that would put her in mental retardation territory
That's a bold claim. Is it really so unthinkable? I think most girls her age would not expect their best friend to have romantic feelings for them, especially when she doesn't fully understand romantic feelings, and Tomoyo doesn't exactly go out of her way to make her feelings clear.

>And this is the last time I'm doing to reply to you if you use this word.
That's rather arbitrary. Maturity is the operative concept in my argument.
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>>143234617
This webm is going to look awfully sad/silly after tomorrow's Gainax ending.
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>>143235523
>Is it really so unthinkable?
Both Shayron and Tomoyo are smart enough to understand other people. that/s 2/3rds of the main characters. 66.6% of them. Sakura is the only one of the main three trio that can't do this.

And yes, being years behind in your development is retardation.

>Maturity is the operative concept in my argument.
And you know what the best part is? It's 100% irrelevant. Because no matter how mature she is, she still shows the same character traits of being shallow. You don't just grow out of being shallow.
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>>143234348
>Shayron followed Tomoyo around for a few hours and figured out she liked Sakura romantically.
Which chapter is this? It's not that I don't believe you but I'm flipping through the manga and can't seem to find it.
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>2 children fall in love and hold hands and shit
>20 years later /a/ has a 500+ post thread debating their relationship and how 'pure' (or not) they are

All is lost.
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>>143235648
>that/s 2/3rds of the main characters. 66.6% of them
That's a bad scope considering the large amount of characters in the show that are smarter, older, more mature and experiences than both Tomoyo and Syaoran than never noticed Tomoyo's feelings despite knowing for a fact of their close friendship and the time they see them together day to day. What's your excuse for them?
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>>143235715
It's been years since I've read the manga, but it's very near the end.

>>143235761
>that's a bad scope because I say so
No.
>What's your excuse for them?
They never looked because Tomoyo is not wildly relevant to them.
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>>143235648
>Both Shayron and Tomoyo are smart enough to understand other people
Because people mature at different rates. You don't seem to have gotten this.
>being years behind in your development is retardation.
If it were a basic function like talking, yes, but romance is difficult for many people to understand.

>You don't just grow out of being shallow
Actually, that's exactly what you do. When we are children, we don't look beneath the surface of things. Hell, when we're babies, we can't even comprehend the concept of things being physically behind other things. Learning to recognize the feelings of others is one of the first steps in emotional development; learning to deduce the feelings of others when they're trying hard to keep them hidden is one of the last steps.
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>>143235857
Stop samefagging.

>mature
Done. Remake your post if you actually want ti explained why you're wrong. Again.
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>>143235837
To simplify things. Tomoyo and Syaoran are abnormaly mature for their age (only in some aspects both have childish flaws at different things). Sakura is the only one of the main three who acts her age properly. But you want her to be on the same page of the other two.
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>>143235945
>Done
Thank goodness. You'll stop insulting CCS with your salty teen ramblings.
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>>143235945
Smooth moves
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>>143235949
I feel bad for your parents. You must have been retarded as a child, and now.

You keep making excuses that don't actually mean anything. The whole point is that it's bad writing. Do you even remember that? Its bad that Sakura is this stupid brain dead exception and she can't do what other characters are doing.
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>>143235987
>>143235997
Didn't I say stop samefagging?
Posting from your phone doesn't make you two people.

>salty
You are the highest grade of cancer. And CCS is garbage.
You're still wrong about literally everything. I just told you I was done addressing "durrr mature" for the 50th time.
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>>143236093
Yes, arbitrarily ducking out of an argument is a very good way of proving your point. You are a worthy opponent.
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>>143236093
>Posting from your phone doesn't make you two people.
What if I have dissociative identity disorder?
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>>143235837
>It's been years since I've read the manga, but it's very near the end.
I think you might be mixing it up with Eriol saying he knows. But even assuming I just missed it, doesn't it make more since that Syaoran would notice because they both love the same person rather than because it was obvious? Otherwise he would have noticed earlier and so would other people.
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>>143235710
Yeah okay
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>>143236240
>doesn't it make more since
Meant to type "doesn't it make more sense", my bad.
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>>143210303
CORRECTIVE RAPE
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>>143236172
>>143236188
It's not ducking out of anything. Anyone with a brain sees that your point about maturity has been addressed many times over. Because you just keep repeating it.

The only point in continuing was to convince you.

>>143236240
I'm not. Even the retards who I'm arguing against know that he figures it out.

>doesn't it make more since that Syaoran would notice because they both love the same person rather than because it was obvious?
No, why would that mean anything. Just because they like the same person doesn't mean he instant;y understand everything about her. And her reasoning for liking Sakura are totally different than his.
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