so which one is the best /a/?

Bleach is shit.

I'm not 10 years old so i don't know

Based on discussion I've seen on /a/, One Piece is the best.

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>the best
You mean the less worst...

Naruto>Bleach>One Piece

>>143182219
YOU ARE MY FRIEND>JUST AS PLANNED>NAKAMA HURRRR

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>>143153096
Naruto, cause its over

One Piece pisses me of because the world seems to have been made by a mental patient.

>>143182614
>>143182565
>Bleach
>Not objectively the worst

Aizen memes are ancient, /a/

>>143182219
Which one's anime got cancelled againt? I think it was Bleach.

>>143182752
Bleach is a better concept than One Piece of Shit, and Naruto has the most interesting setting out of the three.

Naruto because it ended.

>>143182752
This. Only one good arc (Soul Society) that isn't even as good as Alabasta or Chuunin exams.

Like, I prefer One Piece, but if someone said they liked the Chuunin Exams more than any OP arc, I could understand that. Soul Society just diet CP9.

>>143182893
>concept

Bleach still fucking sucks

According to discussion on this board One Piece. I wouldn't know, I never read it.

I prefer Naruto, honestly. I can appreciate the lead in some regards. Granted he's annoying, but he spends the grand majority of the series with only a couple of techniques that he's always practicing or finding new ways to use. I appreciate this more because there's an emphasis on the work needed to become strong. Rather than Naruto gaining a new power suite with every arc because he's an amalgamation of ever faction presented in the series.

Don't get me wrong, the series is deeply flawed, but I can appreciate that one aspect of it.

>>143183459
*
To clarify, I liked scenes similar to when he used a shit ton of clones to master the Rasengan. It showed him creatively applying the technique he has always known to work at mastering a new one. Literally my two favorite things in anime.

>>143182565
>>143182614
>>143182893
>>143183459
fuck of narutards

one piece

>>143182219
One Piece is still good so far.
Naruto at least didn't get super wacky until the end, but even then, I didn't hate it.

Bleach fell off fucking hard.

>>143183037
You really think us Bleachfags give a damn about plot? Spirit samurais are cool you faggot.

Relavent

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2015-11-06/whatever-happened-to-bleach/.95031

>>143183627
So that's what a group is called? A fuck of Narutards?


I like it. It's funny.

>>143182219
They are all standing in a trash can in that pic. They must team up to escape.

>>143182219
>ichigo is Champion
>Luffy has Money in the Bank
>Naruto is coming back from injury

is Goku Vince then?

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I know everyone likes to rag on "hurr the big 3" but if you honestly think Luffy and One Piece aren't heads and tails above those two then you're being ignorant

They were always in One Piece's colossal shadow

>>143184010
It says alot that Nardo is the most popular in Murica but One Piece of shit is the most popular in Japan, japan has shit taste.

>>143182893
Bleach is a rip off.

>>143182219
I think we can at least agree they're all better than Fairy Tail.

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>>143182219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZk9Nn-U9sM

Can't really top this, lad
Tobirama posting was quite amusing though

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>>143182219
>Artstyle
Bleach>One piece>>Naruto

>Story
None

>Waifus
Bleach>One piece=Naruto

>Main characters
Ichigo>Naruto>>>Luffy

>Openings and endings
Bleach>Naruto>>>One piece

>Fights
Naruto=one piece>Bleach

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>>143185727
>>Main characters
>Ichigo>Naruto>>>Luffy
>>Openings and endings
>Bleach>Naruto>>>One piece

>>143185727
>Ichigo
>Best character

That's wrong desu

>>143185436
>Dragonball Z
>The series that started powerlevel shit
>the series with the worst VA
>the series that started all of the cliches in anime/manga
Yeah so fucking good, kys /a/

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>>143183902
>He didn't watch Money in the Bank.

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So do people actually think Blehhh is good?

>>143182219
None. Literally worse than capeshit.

>>143185841
kek

>>143185790
Kenshiro started all that shit you dumb faggot.

I think we can all agree on one thing.

Toriko was 100x worse then all 3 of these and I don't see why Jump tried to whore it so hard.

Its probably gonna end before Bleach.

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>>143185762
>>143185778
>Naruto
you killed my mom so lets be friends.the all forgiving jesus-kun
>Luffy
A Poor Man's goku. the all forgiving jesus-kun

>>143186186
>Luffy
>Forgiving

Even if that were true WHAT IS ICHIGO'S CHARACTER!?

exactly he doesn't have one

>>143186186
I don't even know what top and bottom right are

>>143186381
Ichigo's character is autism

>>143186186
>Luffy
>forgiving
He beats the unholy shit out of his foes and the only reason they are still alive is because of Oda he never once forgives any of his enemies. Luffy is a guy who slugs a noble in their face because he got pissed off not even Goku is that unstable.

>>143184250
This guy gets it

>>143186381
He's a normal guy, that alone puts him above the other 2.

>>143186381
Shonen MCs are shit. Ichigo doesn't need to say "i wanna be the king of the pirate" 24/7 like luffy and naruto.
Its like this
>Naruto
Moralfag
>Luffy
Autistic
>Ichigo
Has no goals but still better than narudo and ruffy
>>143186448
Hit man reborn and basket ball anime( forgot the name)

I talk about One Piece to least because it drags on way too much in Arcs the only arc in Post Skip I liked is Punk Hazard, Dressrosa is Baroque Works 2.0, and this currrent Big Mom Arc looks like a serious dragging on fest.

I watched Naruto first as kid, then Bleach as a preteen and finally One Piece as a teenager so thats why I think One Piece is the worse out of the three because it took me years to actually get into One Piece.

>>143186621
>normal guy
You mean a normal, orange haired japanese delinquent teenagers who's half shinigami, half hollow, half fulbringer, half quincy and lord knows I'm probably forgetting another dozen little details about how abnormal the character is.

Yeah
Suuuuuuuper normal

>>143186682
Why is a basket ball manga grouped with battle mangas like Bleach, OP, HxH and the rest?

>>143186840
because it's shonen. shonen comes in all shapes and size

>>143186682
Luffy is so shit that he has no actual goal and only cares about the adventure. Naruto actually succeeded in his goal and is doing a fine job at it but what the hell will Pirate King dumbass do?

Ichigo is probably is nihilistic towards any goal he has on earth knowing what happens when you die.

>>143186682
naruto is a ninja he kills people

>>143186956
Nope he calls Kakashi every time someone has to be killed

>>143186956
Naruto never killed anyone. HOWEVER he has gone after people with the intent to kill them

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>>143184250
/thread

Despite all my complaints, One Piece has the darkest world out of the three shonens but New World is a serious clusterfuck of random ass independent kingdoms that really shouldnt exist since trade should be impossible in those eldritch waters in the New World. How the fuck did humans even get on these islands in the first place?

>>143182219
Seth>Dean>Roman

>>143187125
>wwe at 10:30 AM

wtf?

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>>143182219
the king is back so there is no need to argue anymore

but if i have to pick one of them, luffy is the best

What does Kubo/Oda/Kishi, even do with their riches? Are mangakas known to stunt? Does any one know, if they own mansions in Tokyo, or drive luxury vehicles ?

Why wont Oda actually show Luffy gooing through Puberty and becoming more muscular I hate his constant string bean physiology.

>>143187249
Super is worse than all three of them.
>>143187273
I know Oda has a fancy house.

>>143187220
Objectively the correct answer

>>143187273
i don't know about the other 2 but oda has a lof of fancy stuff, he just rarely uses any of it because he just smokes,drinks, draws manga and then sleeps for 4 hours and repeat

>>143187314
but goku still a better character than those guys

The general plot for Wan Piss is stupid

Find Gol D Roger's treasue and become the pirate king, but the Yonko already said fuck that shit and decided to conquer territory in the New World for some reason despite the New World being tiny as shit compared to most of the globe in Wan Piss. I guess the marines are too lazy to actually kill all the pirates in the New World or seal off entrances to the New World to prevent pirate spawn from getting there in the first place.

So if the Yonko went LOL ROGER FUCK YOURSELF MAN I DONT NEED YO TREASURE TO BE A RULER why do all these retards actually search for Roger's treasure knowing that even if they find it the Yonko will kill them if they try to tell them what to do anyway? Does Luffy even realize he needs to kill all the Yonko to secure his rule as king.

What does Luffy plan to do as king anyway and what the hell even is a pirate king? Does the pirate king manage all pirates on the planet wait what god this is fucking stupid.

>>143187283
Gear four is pretty beefy

>>143182219
Boku No Pico. Followed closely by Watamote.

>>143182874
Yes

>Roman Reigns' face covered by Ichigo's

P O E T R Y

>>143182874
Why was Bleach canceled again?

Must suck to be the Goresei to live in a world where the ocean is hell on earth most of the time must be one serious pain the ass to govern places in Wan Piss due to these idiots not inventing flying vehicles.

>>143187221
WWE Superstars. It's matches taped before Monday Night Raw.

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>>143186186
>>143186621
>>143186682
>Ichigo being a regular guy=good

Ichigo is a fucking idiot and follows the basic shonen tropes.

Pic related is from the current quincy arc.

>Fires a powerful attack with a killing intent
>Enemy tries to tank it with her own attack
>"What the fuck? Dodge it!"

At least when Naruto or Luffy intend to kill an antagonist, they make their intent clear.

>>143187478
>I guess the marines are too lazy to actually kill all the pirates in the New World
That's like asking why hasn't America killed every terrorist
>seal off entrances to the New World to prevent pirate spawn from getting there in the first place.
How would they do that? Also that doesn't stop pirate crew that were formed in the New World

>Does Luffy even realize he needs to kill all the Yonko to secure his rule as king.
No he doesn't
>What does Luffy plan to do as king anyway and what the hell even is a pirate king?
Calling someone the Pirate King has never meant they were actual rulers. It's just a term that meant they were the best. It's like how Michael Jackson called the King of Pop. I can't believe anyone could get this far and think otherwise.

>>143187478
jesus anon you don't have any adventure spirit in you

>Does Luffy even realize he needs to kill all the Yonko to secure his rule as king.

yes, there are 4 yonkos he is already trying to kill one, talked shit about another one, the third one is part of the reason why his brother died so luffy is definitely going to kill him and the 4th one is his best friend so there is no reason to fight him

What does Luffy plan to do as king anyway and what the hell even is a pirate king?

it's just a title and he doesn't want to conquer or do anything as a king he just wants to be the king because when you become the king you also become the man with the most freedom in the world

basically luffy just wants to have adventures with his friends, and well sometimes while having adventures he appears at the wrong time and gets trown into fights

>>143187756
>Ichigo is a fucking idiot and follows the basic shonen tropes.
Same with luffy and naruto

>>143187125
>Tfw the final days of Saturday Morning Cartoons are basically re-runs of JLU, censored DBZ Kai, and WWE dumbed down for children.

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>>143187006
>>143187054
yes he has

>>143187768
But how does getting Roger's treasure mean you are the best? How stupid are the humans in One Piece?
>>143187818
>BB actually becoming a Yonko
This is plot bullshit as the Yonko would have started wars over Eddy's territory once they heard the faggot died and would have killed BB if he went I GOTS HIS POWERS NOW IMMA YONKO TOO GUYS. Seriously this is the biggest bullshit in Wan Piss.

>>143187831
At least Naruto and Luffy had a comedic vibe to them that allowed their character personalities to flourish in the earlier part of their respective manga. Ichigo for the most part just let his manga work around him, he didn't really have notable personality to begin with outside of being a half-assed Yusuke.

Ramen Reign is Naruto. Believe...that

>>143187848
Not to mention he killed quite a bit of people in fillers/movies with his plot-ending Rasengan.

>>143187975
Early Bleach felt more a dark comedy
Middle-Late Bleach is more like a dark soap opera

>>143187899
>How stupid are the humans in One Piece?

very very stupid, and smart at the same time considering that they have cyborgs and robots but at the same time they still using seagulls
to deliver the most fucking important news

>>143187975
Ichigo is nothing like Yusuke, Yusuke was a fucking dick Ichigo is a bland guy.

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>>143187478
look at this idiot
>I guess the marines are too lazy to actually kill all the pirates
implying marines are able to do that without being destroyed by the pirates.

> Does Luffy even realize he needs to kill all the Yonko to secure his rule as king.
no he fucking doesn't

pirate king is not a pirate ruler idiot.
Pirate king means he's the best number 1 pirate, that can be only achieved by finding the One Piece.

also read pic related for luffy's goal as pirate king

>>143187899
>But how does getting Roger's treasure mean you are the best?
Because One piece is the ULTIMATE treasure in the world, not even the yonkou able to find it

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>>143182219
I Watched all OP, a bunch of Naruto and nothing from Bleach except scenes that a friend showed me.
If not having watched in a long ass time, forget every awkward poopy or main protagonist being weird scenes, and remembering cool concepts and characters, naruto would be the best.

One piece before the time-skip, style change and the power scaling was pretty damn enjoyable. Now it doesn't even feel that great in most of its humor. Also that Luffy keeps coming up with stranger and stranger techniques instead of beating the shit out of a cool opponent with what he has in hand (Crocodile and Enel come to my mind as examples). Luffy's fights feel way lighter now as he mostly get to a "very tired" state, instead of something more hurtful like getting stabbed by a hook.

Bleach has a silent and strong guy, a kitty girl and a dude with an eye patch, that's cool I think.

>>143187899
>But how does getting Roger's treasure mean you are the best? How stupid are the humans in One Piece?
Did you even read Jaya? Plenty of people think One Piece is just a myth. Only ambitious dreamers are looking for it. Whitebeard's death may have made those feelings stronger, but there are obviously plenty of people who think it isn't real.
>This is plot bullshit as the Yonko would have started wars over Eddy's territory once they heard the faggot died and would have killed BB if he went I GOTS HIS POWERS NOW IMMA YONKO TOO GUYS. Seriously this is the biggest bullshit in Wan Piss.
The New World is still largely uncharted and difficult to navigate. Marco and the other remnants still existed. BB knew his way around WB's territories.

>>143188063
One Piece humans use weird snails that transfer electromagnetic waves basically the snails are cellphones that can mimic the actual emotion of appearance somewhat of the person speaking they call this crap Dendenmushi and these things seem to defy the New World weirdness as Luffy and co still got clear reception from Kinemon while kms away from the Punk Hazard island.

>>143188065
They are pretty much the same character.

>Both are high school punks that get in fights
>Both get their powers from a ghost girl whom accompanies them
>Both have a group of friends who dont know about their second life until later in the series
>Both have a childhood friend that happens to be a girl and follows them wherever they go
>Both have a bit of every power that's in the series in the ending arcs

>>143182219
Naruto ended, therefore it is the best
Bleach and one peace still have plenty of room to get worse

>>143188125
>implying marines are able to do that without being destroyed by the pirates.
>HURR FIGHTING DEVIL FRUIT USERS
>Hey guys lets not aim our cannoballs at the base of their ships to sink them
>Because One piece is the ULTIMATE treasure in the world, not even the yonkou able to find it
Eddy already knew where One Piece of shit was and didnt give a flying fuck about it.

>>143188209
(cont) Also some of WB territories WERE taken by the other Yonkou. Remember Fishman Island was controlled by Big Mom.

>>143187975
>Ichigo for the most part just let his manga work around him,

Isn't Luffy the same way? Every time something silly happens, Luffy just rolls with it and acts silly himself. You don't really give a shit about him until the final part of an arc when he fights the main bad guy.

>>143182219

One Piece>Bleach=Naruto

>>143188320
New World is teeny compared to the enormous oceans North and South of it. What I want Oda to explain why the hell so many countries are in that small section of the globe and not in the bigger oceans?

>>143182219
One Piece>>>>Naruto>>>>>>>>Dogshit>>>>>>>getting fucked with a cactus>>>>>>>Bleach

>>143188354
Watch better anime>>>>>One piece=naruto=bleach
ftfy

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>>143182219
>I'm not 10 years old so i don't know

Most ten year olds nowadays don't even know these 3 anime.

Except maybe Naruto, mainly for the video games

One piece has interesting characters due to the zany nature of the powers. The arcs are a bit on the short side and there's too many of them t b h, but it's still good. It's super episodic where every arc is short and very stand alone.

Naruto is a slightly better drawn, enclosed One Piece that doesn't have such an episodic arc style.

Bleach is the best drawn, worst written one with "le 20 volumes an arc" storylines. If it ended after soul society, it would be a great standalone. But it didn't.

I don't get why people say Naruto explains their powers too much when they barely ever do. In fact, the main objective in Naruto fights is to keep their abilities secret and have their opponent figure it out.

Bleach on the other hand has opponents boasting about their powers without virtually any reason, making most fights bland and unmemorable.

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>>143188433
>watch

lmao fuckin loser

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>objectively the worst by miles

What the hell happened to this shit? It started off so strong, but it went downhill after maybe 2nd or 3rd arc

>>143188289
>Hey guys lets not aim our cannoballs at the base of their ships to sink them
you don't even read the manga right?

>Eddy already knew where One Piece of shit was and didnt give a flying fuck about it.
again, you don't even read the manga right?

edward doesn't want One Piece because all he wanted was family, not glory.

>>143188479
>If it ended after soul society, it would be a great standalone. But it didn't.

Fucking this. Even though the Soul Society arc was a somewhat rip off of S-cry-Ed's first few episodes, it was still an amazing arc. After that, Bleach became sub-par and then went right down the gutter after the Aizen arc.

>>143188580
It was by far the least planned out. Did you know Kubo originally had Urahara as the villain, and Aizen was supposed to have died for real instead of just faked his death.

>>143188394
Thats part of the mystery, and it will be explained.
But it's not "tiny" and it's not pencil-thin. it wraps around the entire world and has lots of islands

>>143188656
Soul Society was obviously a set up arc as Kubo had already foreshadowed Bach before the Soul Society Arc began you stupid fuck.

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>>143188433

>>143188289

>>Hey guys lets not aim our cannoballs at the base of their ships to sink them

Is there any jobber bigger than the Cannonballs of OP? When they're not missing they're getting blown to shit by haki bullets.

>Eddy already knew where One Piece of shit was and didnt give a flying fuck about it.

He actually didn't know, Roger offered him the way and Whitebeard said he didn't care, he doesn't want to be King of the pirates, he just wanted a family.

Hell he even told Roger that if Roger told him where it was, he wouldn't go anyways.

>>143188608
Plus it's been hinted that it's not as easy as just sailing there and claiming the treasure, which is once again part of the mystery

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>>143188692
Why wouldn't you watch/read better anime/manga?

>>143188671
Im no cartographer but the Grand Line's size is ridiculous if its a strip of an equatorial area of the planet I mean shit in our world the grand length would start from the tip of Sudan to the middle of the Congo and sure alot of land can fit in there but the land would be teeny as fuck.

>>143188718
FYI Roger did end up telling him how to get to Raftel in that marineford flashback (which people are assuming was at Wano becuase of the cherry blossoms)

>>143188835
No, he just told him about the D.

>>143188835

Which when they were sitting and drinking and when Roger told him the secret of the name of .D due to Whitebeard being curious of the name.

Because I must've been a speed reading demon that day because I don't recall ever reading about it.

>>143188686
Yeah, because setting up for a shitty final villain with nothing interesting about him aside from the fact he made Ichigo's collection of powers to make sense was a great plan.

>>143188817
You're assuming 2 things wrong
1) That it's a relatively very thin strip of the world.
at the start of the grand line there were 7 different pathways they could take, and that STILL didn't take into account all of the islands on the entire line

2) The size of the planet relative to real life

>>143188835
Raftel being ridiculously hard to find is another stupid plot point.

The Marines not mapping the New World is an even dumber plot point, I know the NW screws with compasses big time and the currrents can send you in circles as well but you could map it if you could stay in the air.

>>143188880
>>143188908
You're right, my mistake i got it mixed up

>>143188686
>Bach before the Soul Society Arc
I find that incredibly hard to believe. Why would he make the final villain a super Quincy when the series was about Soul Reapers vs. Hollows?

Wan Piss>Bleach>Naruto

>>143188808
What is "better" by your terms? Anime has an assortment of different genres, so it's all subjective for the most part.

If were counting shonen(not MMO/battle-magic school shonens they comes out with every season), then yes there are a handful of shonen better than the Big 3.

>>143188987
....
Well that should clue you in to how large the grand line really is

>>143183753
>spirit samurais are cool

I suppose if you're 12, yeah, they are.

Bleach would be better than Naruto??

>>143182893
Bleach has a fucking terribly executed concept and Kubo is easily the worst writer of the three.

Kubo is easily the worst writer of any popular kiddie manga.

>>143189021
The series stopped being about Soul Reapers vs Hollows when they treated Barragan, the fucking King of Hollows, as nothing but Aizen's subordinate.

>>143189011

All good mang, it happens.

>>143188987
>Raftel being ridiculously hard to find is another stupid plot point.
If it was just a regular Island, sure. But this is a series that has Sky Islands and Underwater Islands.
>>143189045
Not him, but I'd say Jojo, FMA, and Gintama are better than all of them. One Piece is still pretty good.

>>143188808

Sliding the manga of any of these can be a quite decent pass time when you've got nothing better to do as they do tend to come out weekly.

They're not down right masterpieces but who gives a fuck if someone spends the the few minutes it takes to read this shit. I've kept up with Arachnid and it's many times worse than any of this shit combined. But fuck, it's a decent pass time, like shit posting on /a/.

>>143189045
no i'm saying there's better anime out there than some poorly written shit like bleach and one piece.

Wow what a great thread, such high post quality too.

>>143188987
>Raftel being ridiculously hard to find is another stupid plot point.
explain why it is stupid

>>143189099
To be fair, he was Aizen's subordinate.

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>>143182219
Ichigo of course, he was based as fuck.

>>143189099
Baraggan was one Hollow king there might be many hollow kings since we have no fucking clue how large the Hueco Mundo dimension actually is, in the beginnning of Bleach Grand Fisher came from a wasteland looking area but the Hueco Mundo we see is a giant ass desert so the wasteland must be a really fucking far away section in that case.

Barragan being the king of hollows was a dumb concept since Hollows are soul eating monsters there is really no point in Hollow acting civilized at all.

>>143189099
In Kubo's defense, what Aizen was doing was a lot more interesting than any Hollow plot at that point. Well, except Ulquiorra.

>>143182219
I don't follow any of them anymore because they all went on for far too fucking long but I went with One Piece all the way up past the time skip.
I bet it's still pretty great, but I just can't muster up the fucking willpower to catch up again.

>>143187637
Either ratings, or the fact that the anime caught up with the manga.

>>143189620
It's not as good as it used to be (even though I still like it), but at least it didn't implode on itself like Bleach and Naruto did.

>>143189683
The manga was about 20-30 chapters in once the anime ended at the Fullbring arc.

The anime currently could go for about 50ish episodes.

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>>143182219
Just a quick reminder, The Big Three is a faggot Yank meme originally from Gaia, and never actually existed.

Also, liking Naruto only became acceptable on /a/ in the last year or two, about the same time as gay marriage was legalized in America. Coincidence?

>>143182219
OP>Naruto>Bleach

>>143189791
>liking Naruto only became acceptable on /a/ in the last year or two, about the same time as gay marriage was legalized in America. Coincidence?
Now this is some serious retard logic.

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>>143182282
But are you over 30? Because that's where One Piece's demographic lies.

>>143189696
Naruto imploded. Bleach just proved it's author has a very limited imagination. Even his art is repetitive as fuck. The characters are copies of eachother, so are the plots, and there are very few interesting powers and fights just come down to who uses their best trick last.

>>143186186
Gintoki and Gon are cute.

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Bleach obviously, the KUBOOOOOO moments the Bleachbros know about are alone what makes it better than the other two. The once who pay good attention to it and understand it knows Bleach is the best out of the tree.
The people who prefer One Piece or Naruto over it are the usual retards you see that aren't even aware of what is happening in the story or the name of the characters, because they skim read it, for idiotic reasons they come up with such as "I just want to see how it ends", "I read it for the lulz", "is this still going", thinking that they can hide the fact that they are completely retarded and need everything handed on the table to them like in the other two, because they are too stupid to figure it out themselves.

>>143189696
Of course it didn't implode on itself because every arc's setup is the same thing in an infinite loop.
After the timeskip,Oda started to recycle himself even in his strong points,like world building,characters and abilities.
This is not creative,this is just money grabbing.

>>143189260
>OP
>poorly written

maybe the very early chapters sure

>>143189791
>about the same time as gay marriage was legalized in America. Coincidence?
From what I heard, gays hated the ending because it was heteronormative, or something.
>>143189947
OP is fun, but it has problems.

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>>143189860
>/a/ didn't like nardo, serious retard logic.
Sorry /a/ offends you Newfriend.
Have you tried fucking off? It's a big internet.

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>>143189887
>so many people over 30 unironically like one shit

>>143186917
>Luffy is so shit that he has no actual goal and only cares about the adventure.

This may surprise you, but he's a romantic pirate. Most romantic pirates only care about going on adventures with their crew. How is that shit?

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>>143189947
You wouldn't know what's poorly written because you watch/read shonenshit

>>143189696
>>143189910

That's bullshit. Each arc introduces so many new things while also building up threads to grow into the next few arcs

>>143187517
dis nigga

>>143190007
Grandpa's favourite animu

>>143190002
What problems?
Is it perfect? No. Nothing is. But they're minor flaws, which is why its most definitely one of the greatest manga in history

>>143189887
That is sad.

>>143189903
Bleach is indeed the more unpredictable manga of the 3 and its irregular structure makes it even more compelling.His foreshadowing is incredibly clever and the mythology he's using is unique for shonen standards.
Also Kubo didn't want to become a mangaka in the first place but he easily wipes the floor with the other two in terms of drawing abilities.It's just sad.

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>>143190101
>one of the greatest manga in history

>>143190123
>foreshadowing
I'll admit he did set up a couple insane moments
But the majority of the series is not clever at all

>>143190168
Choose whatever metric you want to judge that and then try to tell me I'm wrong

>>143189903
>Making a share of bland-plot twists and a couple of interesting arc developments look amazing, the image

I could do the same with Naruto if I had the editing skills and free time.

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>>143190032
>you watch/read shonenshit

>>143190040
So many things like what?New world is just a rehash of the paradise saga.
Doflamingo's crew was a rehash of crocodile's crew.Fishman island was a rehash of the arlong park arc and so on.He should have ended it when he started running out of ideas

>>143190166
Now I know why /a/ hates Naruto more than any other shonen. Holy shit.

>>143190101
I like one piece, my biggest problem with it is just how long it drags on, but that's largely just the anime. My second biggest problem is that no one died in the alabasta arc.

>>143190311
If you were there when it happened, you'd know that was just everyone taking the opportunity to shitpost.

>>143190328
>My second biggest problem is that no one died in the alabasta arc.
I don't mind it as much as how Pell survived a point blank bomb

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>>143190123
>he easily wipes the floor with the other two in terms of drawing abilities.
He's the king of minimalism

>>143182219
Ichigo is fine. The other two are cancer. Luffy is a cancerous among the Japs and Naruto is among the fatricans.

>>143190191
It's infinitely more clever than giving straight out spoiler pages and one page arcs and calling it "foreshadowing"

>>143190231
No i'm good i don't want to argue with you m8
>>143190262

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>>143190311
Never forget

>>143190375
He's boring as fuck all "I FIGHT FOR MY FRIENDS" mixed with teen angst.

>>143190108
They're just watching what they like. Why is that sad, even if they have shit taste?

>>143190262
>Implying moeshit wasnt around in the 90s

Truth being we only get a shonen that's legitimately memorable every 3-5 years. Moeshit is easier to produce and air because the character/setting archtypes are already established from previous moe animes.

>>143190359
That was the worst part especially since he should have died by then already. But I'm also talking about Igaram, and Kohza.

>>143190266
>Fishman island was a rehash of the arlong park arc
Only Hody and Arlong are similar. The structure of the arc itself is completely different.

>So many things like what?
-The Reverie
-Poseidon
-Pirate Alliances
-SMILES
-The Fleet
-Road Poneglyphs

>>143190266
what? jut because they both had fishmen doesn't mean theyre the same. FI had completely different themes
and dressrosa had PARALLELS with alabasta but the arcs also played out very differently

>>143190328
>>143190359
Well he saves deaths for big moments i guess. but at least when someone survives it doesnt affect the plot that much (i.e. pell surviving didnt somehow affect the outcome of the battle, same with conis etc.) So it doesn't end up feeling cheap or asspull-ish

>>143182893
>one piece of shit
every time one piece haters just have to show off how shallow and infantile they are. never gonna prove a point that way.

>>143190450
He doesn't fight FOR them. He fights for who needs protection. It's his job to do so as well. He doesn't give that much shit if he loses a friend, He'd be like, "whatever man, just act like an adult about it."

>>143188289
Mody Dick is durable to ram into Marineford. Hell, you wouldn't be asking these questions if you have just read that arc. Marines can't just challenge large pirate crews especially when the larger ones, such as WB's crew, can give them hell and are involved with other nations.

>>143189887
Be careful when interpreting this graph, because One Piece is still (near) no.1 most read in all of those age categories. This chart might as well be called "manga readership by age group". You might remember that the japanese population is shrinking, hence why the youngest group has a relatively small percentage.

Dropped each around chapter 20 when I was a kid. Even back then I knew what trash looked like.

>>143190491
>The structure of the arc itself is completely different
>Strawhats arrive in an island
>Pirates terrorising the island
>Strawhats defeat the pirates
>Go to the next one
Also,ancient weapon in water 7,shichibukai meeting,pirate alliances on impel down,whitebeard fleet,poneglyphs everywhere and smiles are just devil fruits spammed

>>143190686
>Not following the 30 chapter rule

>>143190474
>taking that image seriously
Fuck off

Is One Piece worth catching up on? I stopped following the anime once Toonami took it off the air around 2008-ish.

>>143190722
So things that are ubiquitous to every arc. In other words, Fishman Island isn't a copy of Arlong.
>>143190791
Only in manga form, and only if you like shonen.

>>143190722
>villain introduced
>hero fights him
>hero wins
General Asshole reporting for duty!

Not sure what you're implying with that last line though.

>>143190791
Yes, manga only

>>143190791
Only watch the anime if you want to waste a lot of time with varying animation quality.

>>143190815
So,what?He recycles every idea and jumbles them.
This is far from creative writing.
The only reason so many people still reading it,is because Oda created a vast world and left many things unexplained.
If the unanswered questions were answered,the popularity could take a huge dive.

>>143182893
one piece has both the best concept and the best world

>>143183037
alabasta isnt even the best one piece arc

>>143187220
You forgot the power gap between Dean and Roman.

>>143191140
It's like if jojo wasn't full of ass pulls, and completely broken powers.

>>143191025
>If the unanswered questions were answered,the popularity could take a huge dive.
You mean like any series with mysteries and unanswered questions?

>>143191025
Except he's been building on ideas while bringing in new ones, not just recycling with a new coat of paint
Do you even read

>>143186787
You know what "character" means?

>>143187975
Yeah, Naruto is very funny

>>143182219
So which one is which member of the Shield?
>One Piece/Dean Ambrose
>Bleach/Seth Rollins
>Naruto/Roman Reigns

>>143191816
switch Ichigo and Naruto

>>143192073
So the crapiest one would be reigns?

>>143192073
I see Naruto as Roman as they're both the ones that got pushed way harder than they deserved.
Also Seth crippling himself so hard he had to go away for months is just too similar to Bleach losing so much ground that the anime was canned.

>>143182219
They arent as shit as dragonball.

>>143192398
Bleach is.

>Naruto
>Better than Bleach in anything

>>143182219
Where is BNHA?

>>143192447
Nah super just gave dragonball more shit points.

>>143182736
>implying this isn't a good thing

>>143184058
>One Piece of shit
At least you tasteless fags found something to replace "wan piss". It was childish as fuck.

>>143192679
Over in NXT

>>143192679
BNHA isn't one of the so-called big 3. If you want my opinion though:
-Already better than Bleach.
-Almost as good as part 1 Naruto. And better than all of part 2 except maybe the Hidan arc
-Better than East Blue and Post-TS One Piece, but not as good as most arcs between Alabasta and Marineford.

>>143192447
>What is art?
>What is power variety?
>What is non-mc battle?

One Piece > every shonen ever and im not baiting. It has the best characters, the best story and the best world.

>>143193092
>im not baiting

Bleach atleast focuses on other characters besides the mc, you would never see dozens of chapters without naruto and luffy in them.
It just shows how bad and depended the series is if it can't survive without the mc for a while.

SIERRA

Bleach is the manga equivalent of capeshit. I mean that in mostly a good way.

>>143182219
Bleach always ranked at the bottom on weekly jump rankings so it is safe to say that Bleach is the worst.

>>143193157
Its the most popular manga in the country where the mangas are coming from

>>143192973
>What is art?
You're probably one of those guys who only watched the Toonami dub aren't you? Prime Toriyama was one of the greatest action artists in the industry. His choreography was better than all of the big 3.
>What is power variety?
Secondary to choreography
>What is non-mc battle?
That's a flaw, but I prefer it to all of the filler battles in most modern shonen

>>143193092
I'd say FMA is more well written, but One Piece does absolutely everything that I want from an action adventure series.

>>143182893

Bleach has only in its most recent arc gotten good in terms of revealing how its whole damn universe works. Naruto and OP especially have done that with a better pace, although I think Kubo may be the best master of big fucking story reveals.

>>143193178
Nigga, One Piece has the most expanded world with a shitload of character doing their shit on and off page. The manga would be fine without Luffy for a year or more.

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>>143193237
>power variety
>Secondary to choreography

>>143186168
But I like Toriko, is funny and reminds me of Bobobo

>>143182219
One Piece has been genuine fun from the beginning. Haki kind of fucked around with the fights, but the spirit of adventure and friendship is still there.

Naruto started decent, but things pretty much went down hill the moment Sasuke went evil with a couple of peaks and it loses points for Boruto existing.

I haven't touched Bleach in a month. Bullshit ass pull after bullshit asspull gets boring after a while and Kubo clearly doesn't think them all out. It pretty much just feels like it's in zombie mode at this point, rather than having a set goal like finding One Piece or getting Sasuke back, Bleach just throws on evil bad guy teams one after another so Kubo can continue to pay the bills.

>>143193352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR1cMPnMcaY

>>143193448
>we make a shonen battle anime
>the only power is energy blast

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>>143193237
>non-mc battle
>flaw

>>143182219
I like Bleach, but its One Piece, Naruto, then Bleach.


bleach was the gateway, while got thorough that gateway 10 years ago. it good to see how it doing.

Naruto had the decency to end. Bleach should have ended after aizen's defeat. They all jumped the shark, but One Piece took the longest to do it.

>>143193843
>Bleach should have ended after aizen's defeat
So you want bleach shippuden?

>>143190463
By this logic those 20-30 year old man children are justified watching my little pony. I guess they're free to watch what they like, but in the same token, I'm free to think they're pathetic as such. And yes, I realize the irony present.

>>143193843
Just because Naruto ended doesn't mean it wasn't also dragged out. Sasuke should have returned to the village after killing Itachi, and Pain should have stayed as the Akatsuki's real leader.

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>>143182219
You have to ask?

Edward Elric.

Saved the world, fixed his brother, and had god-tier sex with the blonde next door.

>>143193922
The problem with ponyfags isn't the fact they watch it but that they are extremly autistic about it and taking it into the real life

Ichigo is probably the epitome of the "half human half somthing else" cliche, the guy is a

>human, shinigami, hollow, vaizard, fullbringer, quincy

They shoved literaly every race in the manga in him, I dropped bleach when it turned out he was a quincy

>>143194163
Also flushed the power to save the world AGAIN down the toilet because he didn't want to use the other options available to him, one of which wouldn't have even cost him limbs or anything.

I understand that they didn't want to use the one, but the fact is they have one less big gun to meet any future threats.

Or you know, stuff like floods. You know.

Sure he couldn't save one little girl with Alchemy but that's more of a life lesson thing. Sometimes you fail. It's not like his power was inherently bad or troublesome or anything.

And the ethical concerns about one of the options were negated by the willingness of some of the people involved with the decision saying "yeah we are cool with this option".

>>143193352
He is right

>>143194317
The worst part is that you know that somewhere, somebody's shitty fanfic is becoming a reality.

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I don't know how anyone can dislike early Bleach.

>>143194668

SS Arc was great. Every fight had that 'shit was getting real' feeling.

>>143182219
Naruto actually grew up and become top tier husbando material. But Luffy will always be my favorite. Ichigo is pretty bland and forgettable.

>>143185436
I know Naruto and Luffys VA's are women, but at least they sound good and suit the character. Goku's voice is fucking obnoxious.

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>>143194721

One Piece has its ups and downs. It knows how to do what it does well and Keep its audience entertained. The art is objectively great and the world is very fleshed out, but the story and humor can be a little too childish. It's a good manga, but it's kinda overrated.

Bleach is a flawed series, but it's not as bad as people think. The background and scenery art is often minimal but it allows Kubo to focus primarily on character designs and draw the reader more towards the characters. The story and setting aren't as grand as One Piece, but its simplicity helps keep the narrative focused. The main problem with Bleach's story is the pacing. Since the plot is written in a way that flows better when reading it by tankoban release or when being marathoned, it's frustrating for those reading the story weekly. It's a double edged sword. The fight scenes are either fun and action packed or a weird, fucked up game of rock-paper-dynamite. It's a flawed series, but it's not THAT bad. Overall it's a solid series.

>>143195756
Naruto is a gateway anime of the worst kind. It's a bad series, a clusterfuck of story and characterization that isn't very well done by any aspect, but which attempts to compensate for its weaknesses by adding in excessive shipping faggotry and DARKNESS. The normal anon can see this as the shit it is, and may enjoy it, hate it or be indifferent to it, but all the while recognizing that the series itself, regardless of their opinion, is plain bad.

However, these very aspects that try to smear over the shit of its core make it a breeding ground for aspie, unsociable underageb& faggots who engage in every kind of faggotry both online and in the real world. The superpowered characters all trying their hardest to look cool, the jutsus, peculiar, colorful clothes, the whole ninja faggotry and everything about the Naruto world fuels their escapist fantasies, while the pity-party character backgrounds, emphasis on revenge, and overall preachiness of the series make it fit just right with the mary-sueish drives of your average preteen and his sense of unwarranted self-importance towards the world. Exactly the kind of shit that makes little kiddies and underageb& retards eat this shit right the fuck up.

Naruto is basically THE series to attract the most hated anime fanbase known to /a/, which is why, regardless of individual opinions, it is the responsibility of every anon to troll the fuck out of this show and everyone who likes it, and ensure that no Naruto threads ever encourage the newfriends to show their faces here.

>>143192943
>Better than east blue.
Fuck outta here with that shit. OP jerked tears all throughout East Blue and BnHA can barely pull one.

>>143190402
Good job m8. You shouldn't argue with wanpiss fags they're as bad as the sjw.
>choose whatever metric so I can prove you wrong subjectively
Fucking dumbass.

>>143190604
Doesn't change the fact he's shallow as fuck. What's he got going for him? Nakama? Some cheap backstory? Jesus, can't even accept a single flaw.

>>143193925
By the time everything happened with Itachi, Sasuke was waaay too gone to just come back to the village. There definitely needed some resolution in regards to that. It definitely dragged out, but is there any series that doesn't feel dragged out by the end?

>>143185007
What is a Nanatsufag doing here? Oh wait, I'm a Nanatsufag too.

Out of the Big 3 though, Naruto shits on both Burichu and One Piss.

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You niggas haven't seen shit. Please welcome the bastard child of Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail, Magi and 50 other shonen MCs.

>>143196931
Now I actually want to read the shonen zombie. Sounds lulzy.

>>143196931
I hate this manga sooo much. The mangaka rips off of everything and even blatantly plagiarize. The MC is so fucking annoying and punchable. It's actually worse than FT.

>best one
>like it is an accomplishment to be the best pile of shit.

One Piece is pretty damn good. Admittedly it's been a little more tame now that it can't compare itself to Naruto's shittiness. Bleach ending may have the same effect.

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