>MC's power : enhanced strength/speed

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>>143153307

in a world with supernatural power why do we get stuck with the boring ass character who could hit a little harder or sanic speed

>>143154198
Why does no one ever get telekinesis? Telekinesis is godly at higher levels

>>143154198
easy animations
plus elevens love their katana-wielding mcs and strength/speed is the way for that

How I wish we got a battle harem with a mage mc

>>143154356
Mob Psycho 100 soon

>>143153307
It's literally the best power there is. Would you rather be a mook who's human?

>>143154375
i imagine a mage type would be far easier
>mage character stands there while spawning CGI op spells/projectile
or just give me a weak human mc that beats supernatural beings using intelligence and planning alone, anything other than a brick is better at this point

>>143154356
This.
I don't know when I had this epiphany but one day I realized of you were a strong enough telekinesis you could literally become god.
>teleport by moving your subatomic particles at high speeds or superposition
>condense a star and throw it at someone
>disintegrate a person
>create anything you want as long as you know its makeup of particles
This is just the surface too.

>>143154526
if you consider the human person to be due to its brain and the brain to be material, you get mindbending too

>>143154526
That's literally accelerators power. High-level telekinesis to the point where it's now called vector control

>>143154356
Most recent one I can think of was Tokyo ESP.

I'm still waiting for a good powerless MC vs people with powers. They always give them the power to take away other peoples powers and then say they don't have any powers (Index, Mx0). Or they just give them a power later (berserk armor).

>>143154769
No wait, I got mixed up, in Tokyo ESP she had the power to phase through objects.

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>mc has huge drawback on their power to force them to rely on their friends

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>>143154987
>Every single character has a drawback to their ability.
>Except the main character.

>>143153307
Stop reading manga for subhuman Mexican redditors.

>>143155045
>okada ruins the second season of the anime

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>>143155045
>>143155084
>the drawback is alcoholism and crippling Okada

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>MC's weapon: sword

>special ability shorten life
>the mc would've died if he didn't use it anyways
why is this acceptable, there should a limit on this, like he can't use such abilities if his life will end anyways

>MC's power: copying/stealing/acquiring abilities.
s t o p

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>>143155272
>Anything other than a sword and the MC gets called edgy

>>143153307
> cute knight/sage/wizard/underwater basket weaver tells the mc the big bad is weak to water/love/black energy/non-hypoallergenic baby powder

Three minutes later

> MC FIGHTS BIG BAD ABOVE POOL OF WATER/LOVE/BLACK ENERGY/BABY POWDER

> mc hits big bad

> big bad stumbles six steps backwards, holds a full conversation, then lets himself fall in

>>143155393
> he doesn't use the based spear for medium-range combat.
Scum

>>143155563
My nigger. How many spear using MC's are there? I can think of Busou Renkin and Ushio and Tora .

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>>143154526
>Wanting more powerlevel wankery

>>143154514
But that would require good writing, otherwise you end up with shit like A/Z

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>MC's blessed with a special power
>MC's a kid who fight with strong adults and wins
>some character uses everything he got already expecting his death and someone or something saves him

>>143155539
wtf are you talking about

>>143155685
Doesn't Ed from FMA use a spear sometimes?

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>MC's power: reflection or neutralization

>>143155393
What about hammers?

>>143155685
槍使いと、黒猫。

This is a web novel I'm reading where the MC is purely a spear user.
Sure he can use magic and other stuff but he's practically obsessed with his spear.

Plus he also got the black cat sidekick that can transform into a flying fire breathing testicle puma and maul people to death.
Fun read

>>143156031
>pet black cat that can transform into a flying fire breathing testicle puma and maul people to death.
Wat?

>>143155955
>MC's power: reflection
>the reflected attack is stronger than the original
wat

>>143155928
We're talking as a main means of fighting, if it's "sometimes" even Goku and Kenshiro have weapons they use once in a blue moon.

>>143154682
How?
The only thing accelerator does is manipulate vectors, how is that telekinesis?

>MC can copy/imitate/dispel enemy ability

>>143155685
>>143155928
>sometimes
He still more of sword and bare-handed CQC, while not blasting peoples with alchemy.
Its not manga so its not matter much but Yongbi Bulpae is one, he literally sticks a blade on a stick.

>MC's power is perfect memory
>But only if he can remember to use it

>>143154769
>I'm still waiting for a good powerless MC vs people with powers.
Which ones are there? I can only think of series where the MC has anti-magic, which is shittier than anything on this thread.

But yeah, I'd pay for an actually unpowered Batman like MC beating superpower enemies.

Might be offtopic, but:

>MCs and allies have transforming weapons
>they fight against alien-like creatures
>the big bads face off using FUCKING GUNS

>>143156200
It's level 5 telekinesis with a Twist.

Anyway vector control still is a variation type of telekinesis. He's moving stuff with his mind isn't he?

>>143156305
Technically the main character of "A certain magical index" fits that quota. (if you count his negating as a power)

>>143156305
>Which ones are there? I can only think of series where the MC has anti-magic, which is shittier than anything on this thread.
Yeah, Tatsuya is shit and boring.
The closest is Quenser Barbotage, who destroys weapons to surpass Metal Gear MacGyver-style.

>MC's power: cheat ability that's the best in the series
into the trash it goes

>>143156374
More like he's redirecting it with either a larger or smaller magnitude

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What would make a truly interesting MC's ability?

Necromancy? Magnetic field manipulation? Gun wizard?

>Antagonists/villains power
>cancel out other powers
>that's all

Every time.

>>143156518
Magnetic-necro-gun wizard?

>>143155685
That chick balsa

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>the story has characters

>>143154514
>or just give me a weak human mc that beats supernatural beings using intelligence and planning alone
Watch Log Horizon

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>>143156554

>MC cancels out other powers with his right hand
>if you get tired of his shit and tear it off this happens

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>>143156305
>>143156397
>>143156423
>haven't read Mx0
I am disappoint with neo/a/

>>143153307
>MC's power: copy other people's powers, only less potent

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>>143156305
>Batman like MC
Oh please no, that's the last thing we need. Batman like characters always exist in a world where everyone with superpowers is a complete idiot

>>143154769
>I'm still waiting for a good powerless MC vs people with powers.
I don't know if this guy was the MC, and I can't even remember the name of the fucking manga, but there was this one character who's power was to be able to look into the future via the Akashic Records. Only thing is, it was pretty fucking useless because it takes him months and years to actually sort through the knowledge and find out what he needs.

>MC won't fight girls
>MC gets his ass kicked by her because of that

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>MC's power: the will to inspire others

>>143156966
>MC genderbends female villain to beat her

>>143156518
Electric force: switch the charge of the atoms of the enemy to break his body.

>>143156452
You just described telekinesis.

>>143157047
>MC genderbends himself to beat her

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>>143157129

>>143157112
What I meant is that Accelerator's power has a physics behind it, while telekinesis on the other hand doesn't as you're most likely breaking the laws of physics

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>>143157057
Stop, this is not a powerlevel thread

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>>143157047
>MC genderbends male villain to rape him into submission

>>143157188
And why wouldn't telekinesis not have the laws of physics behind it?
Vector control sounds a lot more bullshit magical than regular telekinesis to me

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>>143155261
>>the drawback is alcoholism and crippling Okada

>alcoholism
Time to self-insert

Halp. I have a serious problem

>>143157202
Actually there is some nocturn stories like that

>>143154526
magically knowing how to do all that just because you can move around objects is bullshit

>hurr I am now a hyper genius and don't need to study anything vigorously on a sub-atomic level before being able to manipulate it so meticulously

>>143157241
>The ability to lift any object just by thinking about it
>The ability to redirect any force/vector when it makes contact with your AIM field

Yeah, vector control totally sounds like bullshit

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>MC's friends get hurt
>he gets a power up

>>143155685
needs more MC's using only shields

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Which one of these would make the best MC?

>>143156941
well you could have something like No game no life, you can still outsmart magical beings giving specific circumstances, but if you state that a character that thinks faster than a human or can predict future that would be insulting to logic if it looses

>>143157322
I'm pretty sure most of telekinesis work under the logic of some kind of energy coming out of your head lifting the thing up

>>143156261
A+

>>143157483
>energy
>lifting things up

You realize energy is a scalar, hence cannot affect any object in any physical way?
Sure it takes energy to lift an object, however that does not mean that energy was what lifted the object up

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>>143157328
>he gets a power up
>still gets ass kicked in.

I think an op yet still limited power would be 10 second precognition, and teach him Aikido/wing-chun

Pretty hard to beat but do-able if you knew his limits

could dodge bullets but not large bombs

>>143157320
Fuck you for this not being an actual anime. Fuck you for toying with my emotions anon.

>>143157536
This was an actual thing.

>>143157567
Also it's been revealed that AIM is still basically magic too actually

>>143157536
MC doesn't put any points in wisdom
, wonders why he's not wise

>>143157313
you don't need to study biology to reproduce, you don't need to study physics to more your body, nor study electricity to keep your brain working, as far as logic is concerned you can say that your mind is linked to atoms and controls it like any body part.
magic is magic because people can't understand it, it can even be super technology and still appear as magic

>>143157256
>>143155261
>okada writes evangelion
how does misato turn out?

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>>143157328

>>143157635
>Also it's been revealed that AIM is still basically magic too actually
Well, fuck you too kamachi

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>>143157371
a shield without some bullshit reflection or attack power tho

>>143157778
It's not an ass pull.
It's just modified magic that Crowley made.

>>143157592
>spend dozens of chapters to reforge a broken sword
>spend dozens of chapters building up to an Ichigo fight
>Bankai broken in a single panel after release
Fucking Kubo. I enjoyed the shit out of that chapter.

>MC has an ability with a drawback
>rival has the same ability with a different drawback
>it's 13 episodes of MC and rival trying to one up each other

>MC has decently regular power.
>He's extremely competent and knows how to use it properly
> while not being the strongest he exploits the hell out of it to give him a great edge
My fetishes

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>MC is Rank F
>first fight
>goes up against a Rank A/S
>MC still wins

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>MC uses a sword

>>143154769
Rokka no Yuusha has this kinda. He just uses abunch of gadgets and stuff while the women have powers and shit.

>>143156661
Seirei no Moribito

>MC gets an ultimate ability
>It needs to have a major the drawback
>The weakness is that the ability hurt the user/can only be use x times/day
>30 chapter laters, thanks to retarded training/gift from another character , he can now spam it

Every. Fucking. Time.

>>143156518
The power to add a drawback to OTHER people's special abilities.

>>143158518
He's Aztec Batman.

>>143153307
I'm okay with the MC's power being enhanced strength/speed with the caveat that the character also has other powers that are more unique.

Just strength and speed seems really boring for me. Energy blasts too. I've seen too many energy blasts.

>>143158614
>the drawback for ultimate ability is removing his power forever
>still somehow gets it back

>>143156305
>anti-magic

I fucking hate this out of everything.

>Oh look, here is a character with a really cool, unique ability that could be used in neat ways
>LOL NOPE. Can't see it in action anymore.

Power nullifiers/Anti-magic characters exist to make things less interesting. Prove me wrong.

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>MC's power
>Nothing
>But he's just unaware of his OP power
or
>MC with a great power is ranked low for some bullshit reason
or even better
>MC has no power
>But has a harem of powerful girls to defend him

>>143158861
nullify is shit but >>143158715 sounds sick

>>143158926
That does sound interesting if done right. Like the drawbacks can't be too severe or anything like that.

>>143154526
But then you get Dr. Manhattan, who is a great character, but doesn't make for interesting fights

>MC has an ability that isn't overpowered or too weak.
>Not only has combat purposes, but also has every day applications as well

Why do I feel like these types of characters are hard to come by nowadays.

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>setting with superheroes and big spooky monsters that can kill anyone in a straight fight
>MC has no powers, no superpowerful intelligence, and no friends to rely on
>however, he did bring a gun

>mc is a magician specialized in cursive

>>143159075
It's because the main target audience for shounen is becoming more and more obsessed with wish fulfillment and escapism. They WANT to be powerwanky generic sexpots.

>>143159176
Remember that time the Punisher killed the Marvel Universe?

And the second time when everyone else became infected with a rage virus?

>>143159233
I wish I didn't. Punisher/Deadpool Kills The Marvel Universe was fucking terrible and an unintentionally amazing argument on why characters that use "hurr planning" to win fights are bad.

>>143159291
>hurr planning
In the wrong hands (i.e Big Two writers), this is more irritating than power nullifiers imo. This is also why I despite Batman.

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>>143154987
>MC has no drawbacks whatsoever and surrounds himself with sycophants that only exist to praise his name.

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>>143159376

>>143159376
>half of his power is sealed
>disintegrated an army by staring at a screen

>>143157711

You really want to know what Eva would look like if Okada wrote it? Well you asked for it...

Love triangle between Shinji, Rei and Asuka. They each get a shitty overly dramatic backstory episode but the bulk of the series is them misunderstanding each other for stupid reasons. Shinji acts like a bored wanker and is in love with one of them and the other is in love with him. Some way into the series the mechas and angels are completely forgotten about. Misato becomes an exposition dumping tool and nothing more. Friendship ending.

>>143158403
Luffy?

>>143154375
Negima?

>>143159981
Negi vs Rakan is sadly not animated though

>>143156518
Dinosaur summoning

Villains get cool complex powers because defeating them is like solving a puzzle and that makes up the conflict. Heroes get boring straightforward powers to use as a general tool set to beat the villains.

That's how it basically always is. Only major exception I can name is Jojo

>>143154375
Does Louie count?

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>>143157604
That's basically King Crimson. He gets 10 seconds of precognition and the only way to change what he sees is to erase time. When he erases time he goes into a world outside of space and time where the things he saw in his prediction play out like sketches or projections except he can walk around and move however he likes even if it goes against what was predicted. When he's happy with his position or all 10 seconds of what he predicted has elapsed, he reappears in the real world. Everyone else teleports to where they were at the end of the prediction except King Crimson appears where he was during his free 10 seconds. Because time literally jumped from one point to another no one remembers what happened except King Crimson himself, so it'd be like walking along and randomly teleporting and getting punched through the back of the chest or karate chopped in the collar bone in that split second of confusion.

Thankfully King Crimson is the most complex Stand there is.

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>>143153307
>anime
>any contrived superpower premise to speak of

>>143157604
It's like you don't even read manga. Any form of precognition can literally turn super OP just through extreme abuse. I see your point though.

>>143156943
Instant bullet. He's not the MC

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I like how Araki started out with that twice, first with Jonathan and second with Jotaro, then he proceeded to make all sorts of characters and villains that don't revolve around "punch it until it dies"

I wish more protagonists had cool versatile powers like that. Like Luffy.

>>143160856
>hoshi no samidare

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>>143160187
Scary Monster sorta already did that

>>143161096
>punch it until it dies
>mentions Luffy
Okay, anon. But really, you're right. I'm not really sure how a person can get into that mind set though since killing is pretty straight forward and to not kill someone is much harder than it is to kill a person.

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>>143161109

>MC has a retarded power that doesn't seem to have any decent use
>uses it in completely unexpected ways to fuck his enemies over
I want to see this.

>>143161202
I don't really get the hype for the series. The scans fucking suck at times so the art is hard to appreciate - which isn't even extraordinary to begin with.

The characters are great, and interact in awesome ways, but the story is horribly generic. The plot is literally battle of the week mini arcs + character development on the side.

Like I like the series a lot, but its even more overrated than punpun. Plus everyone acts like airspace control babylon is so fucking cool, but it's really not. Just that singular page is cool, it doesn't even reflect the abilities nature.

Plus the ending is digimon 02 tier.

>>143160245
is Jojo an exception because the MCs' powers are complex, or because the villains' powers are straightforward?

>>143161202
>>143161259
How ironic.

>>143161179
Okay, maybe less Luffy, but there should definitely be more series that center around actual powers and how to use them against other ones. Enhanced strength and stuff like that eventually turns into powerlevel bullshit. Even Dragon Ball has some characters that have an upper hand due to having actual abilities than just punching and shooting like Guldo.

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>>143161259

>>143161305
Bleach, is pretty good at this.

>>143158491
>only rank F because we couldn't measure your power
I actually enjoyed this anime tho

>>143158491
>boku no hero academy
>naruto
>bleach
>tsugumomo

shit i can go on but almost big shows have "underpowered character beats good character in order to show strength/potential"

>>143158491
This is played in the wrong ways these days, but it's cool when it's done right. It's only hype if the power gap is huge though. Generally the gap is small and it's like, "Why are Rank A/S so shit?" when you start seeing new enemies

>>143161289
The former. JoJo protagonists have powers that initially seem trivial, but can be utilized in a variety of ways. Creating a homing projectile out of a bottle and some dried blood, stopping a helicopter by growing enormous vines and pulling it, countering attacks that turn you inside out by turning your body into Möbius strips, carving a decoy from a dead tree with only your fingernail, and signaling where the enemy is by popping soap bubbles above them against the roof. Crazy stuff.

>>143161259
Read Worm.

>>143156809
>Mx0
more like AxE'd

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>characters give needless exposition by talking to themselves or others thats already know

>>143161591
*that

>they take their time to explain their powers

>>143161650
>they lied and you fell into their trap

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>>143161682

>>143160736
>Most complex

I refuse to believe this. Heavy Weather was some prime A bullshit.

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>>143156518
>Gun wizard
Immediately thought of this

>>143156518
The ability to bend all four elements.

Just kidding. I hate elemental powers.

>>143158819

For as much shit as I can give Kubo, he at least made his MC work for it.

Spent a whole Arc as a shitty sideliner until he gets doublecrossed and has his ass saved by the Gotei. One of the few things Kubo handled pretty well.

>>143156518
The ability to shift around tropes within the story.

>>143161727
Heavy Weather isn't complex, just fucking weird.

>>143154356
Because TK is broken as shit, every single telekinetic in anime as basically untouchable without plot making them suddenly forget they an strangle people at a distance.

Remember Frieza can make people explode with TK as long as they are weaker than him meaning he could have instantly killed Goku anytime he wanted.

>>143159602

Up until Haki, then he began stretching less and less and using his "super special I can use all kinds of Haki and also my Haki is so much stronger than everyone elses" power to win most of his fights.

Haki was a mistake.

>>143155563
>implying combat range means shit once you have the superhuman physical abilities to close distances fast with a sword or close range weapon.

In real life swords are impractical because humans cant move fast enough to close the distance between them and a spear user but in animu everyone moves really fucking fast which makes long range weapons suicidal to actually carry since before you blink your foe will be cms behind you.

>>143155045
>the mc's power is to manipulate matter on a sub-atomic level
>only uses it to taser bad guys

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>>143161921
>the mc's power is to change matter on a sub-atomic level
>uses it to turn a kid's luggage into a frog.

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>MC's Power: Unknown, even to the Gods

>>143161873
Luffy takes advantage of elastic potential energy in his attacks, do you have any idea how much stronger your punchs would be if you got compress your arm then released it like a spring?

>>143161981
The unknown is the best

>>143161985
Also in current One Piece Luffy's attacks are piss weak compared to what they could be, imagine if he stretched his arm 1 km then brought it down.

>>143161981
>beats opponents by bluffing and lying to them

That would be fun to see

>>143161958
I mean it's a bit more limited than that but still.

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>MC's Power: Convenient plot device

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>>143161995
sakamaki izayoi?

Here's my ability: Combo Breaker
The ability to destroy chains, literally and figuratively. The limitation is that the chain must be at least 10 in length. So if someone killed 10 people before you, you can kill them by punching them. Similarly, you can also break a chain of 10 links or more by punching it.
What do you think?

>>143161873
Haki doesnt do anything besides future sight, chi arrmor, and mind fuck.

I want Oda to explain these non DF characters using obviously supernatural abilities.

>>143162126
Has potential, needs to be put into action, go write a WN, anon.

>>143162087
>bleach
>naruto
>DBZ
>OP
>KURAPIKA

>>143162126
Not bullshit enough
You need to make it so its a world of Elementalists, and then the MC shows up with no elemental affinity but this chain breaker power and some other generic goodstuff, like sneaking and teleporting behind them
then say they are the element of surprise

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>power over friction
is there any fictional character with this power?

>>143162230
Someone in Index and someone in One piece.

>>143162230
Spice Girl from Jojo can make anything soft

>>143159477
With Ainz it works because he still retains the "Everyday Japanese salaryman" mentality with lotsa self-steem issues that makes for a whole lot of funny situations.

It might be the first thing that has managed to make misunderstandings actually a fun wreck.

>>143162230
Albeda in One Piecce
XLR8 in Ben 10

>>143162199
>not naming every shonen to exist.

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>>143162230
Sort of.

>>143162126
>instakill someone for breathing more than 10 times in a row

>>143159002
Yeah like x character has a stacking buff that usually lasts for 10 minutes or something and drawback man makes it so every time he misses he loses a stack.

Mind game cat and mouse.

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>villain defeats the MC
>opts out of making sure he dies to let him have a slow death

>>143162392
>not instakill someone with the photons from your eyes being reflected back 10 times
>quicker than even a nanosecond

>>143162055
Joseph Joestar

>>143162468
Well it sounded like he meant you have to punch something to kill it after it's happened 10 times. So honestly there's countless different reasons you could kill a person with a punch and it doesn't really matter which you choose. Eye photons, breathing, heart beats.

So basically it's just a 1-punch instakill with some other possible wacky utilities.

Guys, guys, what if, guys, please listen.
What if... guns, in a fantasy world?

>>143162561
Maybe if he goes over to 11 he cannot punch someone until the count goes to another thing. No more, no less. So breathing and eye photons become pretty meaningless because of how fast they are and how hard to keep track they are.

I mean I doubt killing a person after 10 breaths is possible, unless you are aiming to kill a firstborn.

>>143162606
You've got me hooked, what happens next?

>>143153307
You just need a guy like Goku where you can punch universes away and moving so fast you can move in time stop.

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>>143153307
>MC's power: teleportation

>>143162606
>guns
Fantasy has magic beings that can laugh off bullets.

>>143162633
>The limitation is that the chain must be at least 10 in length
>at least
Everything between 10 and infinity is fair game. Maybe he didn't mean it like that, but if that's the case he should post again and correct his wording.

>>143162230
The Accelerator manga has one of the antagonists showcase short-range friction control.

>>143156518
I'm taking a page from the video game Siren: sensejacking.
>see through other people's eyes
>hear through other people's ears
>smell, taste, touch
A story where every character is relevant because the "third-person narrator" is actually the MC tagging along with them through his power.

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>>143153307
>Mc's power: "Magic"

Dunno, there's stuff like when your power is being really good at killing one specific thing and sucking at everything else and making it work when that specific thing isn't there to empower you.

>>143162742
That's pretty cool actually, anon.

>>143162561
Not that broken. I meant it can only break chains if the subject matter is relevant, so an instakill can only happen if the victim has killed 10 people

>>143161259
Steel ball run anon

>>143162721
Maybe make the limitation be
>No less than 10
>No more than 10
So the MC has to actually investigate his opponent to find the flaw, or even have the rookies/bad guys use that knowledge to fuck over the MC.

I'd read it.

>>143162839
>opponents heart beats 10 times in a row
>break the chain and stop their heart beating
Direct or indirect the result is the same.

>>143162850
>MC never gets 10 and dies
>suddenly comes back to life
>"You though it went from 0 to 10?"
>"It's actually able to go backwards from 0 to -10."

>>143162839
Sounds pretty lame honestly, its basically a lamer version of frequency manipulation.

>>143156305

Raiku's new manga is about a MC who fights monsters by throwing chairs at them and literally shitting his pants to escape mind control.

>>143162917
>MC actually "revives" because the mooks shot him with EXACTLY 10 bullets.

>>143162904
I should really think it over then. Maybe restrict it to physical things and not concepts? But then it'd just be Sticky Fingers

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>MC's power: persuation

>>143162994
>not get hit 10 times to charge up an attack that's super strong

>>143162994
I can think of a couple restrictions that would help balance it. Some combination of anything like
>Make it so it has to be exactly 10, no more or less
>Make it so it only starts counting things when the power is activated so it has to happen 10 times during the first to have an affect and not just 10 times through their entire life
>Make it so it can't directly affect other people, so to beat someone you have to figure out a way to use the environment and objects around you and the target instead of just directly killing them via stopping heartbeats/breathing/etc

>>143163060
How about this: we put an upper limit of 100 on it, so no nullshit like stopping hearts or unlinking atoms happens. Then when power levels go through the roof at the later end of the series MC learns to increase the limit

>>143163160
>not just making it like nen
>he has to pick a certain condition to do ten times
>the harder the conditions, the stronger the whatever

>>143154356
Charlotte

>>143163209
What exactly would dictate how "hard" a condition is? What is the "whatever" that's getting stronger as a result? You're not even describing the power he gave anymore.

>>143163261
Like this. He punches someone who has kicked a ball 10 times, but that would only cause a minor boost in strength. But if he punches someone who has said a certain word 10 times then the boost in strength would be larger.

>>143163448
I don't think you understand the point I was making.

>>143157112
if something isn't moving, aka not having any vector at all, then he wouldn't be able to move it. not sure if such a thing can exist tho, since everything is moving in relative to other objects

but actually, talking real life physic in a jap show is just pointless anyway

>>143156518
To control ones bones or a full skeleton.

>>143164491
I get it, the point is that we can already do that with our muscles. Nice one.

Interesting powers are overpowered

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>MC's power is to negate plot armor

>>143164728
But he is the only one with plot armour?

>>143164804
Nope, MC negates any coincidence, including him and his enemies. He prevents whims of fate from interfering with a battle.

How about a time traveling evil MC?
Here's a possible backdrop.
MC is born to demanding middle class parents. Turns out to be nervous weak and fragile.
He gets bullied mercilessly in school.
One day he wakes up to find a gun pointing at his face, as he is forced to his feet he sees his family tied up. Robbers can't find any valuables in his house and his parents have nothing to give them. They shoot his mother and then turn the gun on him but his father still can't give them anything and jumps them and getting shot. With both parents dead, the robbers leave and MC goes to live with his grand parents.
On graduation day he confesses to his crush but she rejects him. His main bully then arrives and beats him up and then makes out with his crush as he lays bleeding on the ground. MC vows to get revenge.
20 years later he discovers time travel and decides to change his life by killing everyone that ever hindered him in his past. So he wears a mask and travels to various points in history starting with the night his house was robbed. Using his futuristic weapons he renders the robbers unconscious before they can even enter his house and then tortures them before finishing them off. Then he travels to his childhood murdering his worst bully and traumatizing the rest of them before they can threaten him in the future.
Every action he takes changes his memories but they don't become more pleasant. In fact he discovers that time finds even worse experiences to replace them with filled with gore and horror.
At the same time he finds out that the government from his timeline has created it's own time travel technology and is investigating murders that could only be caused by someone from the future. Namely himself.
The story follows MC trying to rein in his bloodlust, to restore the damaged timeline and coming to peace with his original life as he avoids government agents.

>>143162363
His ability is theft of certain aspects in general, although it's cool when he does use it on friction. Honestly it's one of the cooler powers out there, and most people wouldn't give the protagonist that sort of power, usually hold it off for a side character or a villain.

>>143164830
tldr
>time traveling
instant garbage

>>143164728
>>143164804
>>143164827

I miss Medaka Box.

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Unique powers is what made this show so fun. Even though it became a repetitive battle shounen. Only show that have powers this interesting is JoJo. The MC's powe was to turn traah into trees, but they ruined it on by giving him God weapons and shit.

>>143164897
>tfw one piece of trash could fuck up a person
The 10 powers were pretty cool too.

How about a protagonist who has the ability to create "fakes" of objects or "imitate" other people's powers. And when I sake imitate or create fakes, i don't mean complete copying powers.
I mean whenever he copies an object once it's of a lower quality than the original object. And whenever he copies an enemies power he can only copy the power once (Use it for a limited amount of time, maybe only gets one use of it?) and it's not nearly as powerful as the enemies power? Forcing him to be creative/clever with his power and force him to decide when exactly he wants to copy something/copy an enemies power?

>>143164897
You do realize that powers in this one were horribly monotone
"turn one thing into another thing"
"lol have some angel powers cuz angels n shit"
The fake glasses girl was the only interesting one. She is also responsible for the most intense battle in the entire thing too.

>>143164931
Yeah but then Ueki's power became to return other powers back to their original form, which is OP af. I actually liked the sequel manga tho

>>143165057
The sequel manga created some good tension and even allowed him to get another power. That was pretty unique, I don't think I've seen many other manga pull that off.

>>143165052
True, but I haven't watched it since it aired like 10 years ago

>>143156518
>Gun Wizard
Yeah, Kiritsugu was a great MC

Nobody wants to make a story about technomancy. Think about it, sound is brutal. WWII? Tons of dead found from bombings where the concussion wave liquified organs and left bodies intact. And what about the carful application of sound to buff spells/I increase damage (music) that would make for the best of technomancers?

I've always wanted an anime, hell even normal movie where the only effective way to fight other technomancers would be to use some bullshit challenge (magic ain't gonna explain shit) that locks one into a battle of the bands life or death situation. A few shows and movies touch on it but rarely to an extent I'd like to see.

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>Main Character uses an Axe
>He doesn't even have any special ability
>He just smashes things really fucking good

>>143164573
What if he could control other people's bones?

The power to store and release physical objects inside of other physical objects like files on a computer.

>>143165602
There was at least one in Area D where the guy could hide in his body with his "Deserted House" ability. Complete with any kinetic energy it possessed at the time of storage.

>i-i cant stand seeing girl cry

>>143157954
Not quite. Esper powers were originally an innate kind of magic that Gemstones only had. Regular magic in Index was created to give people without innate talent to acquire supernatural power and what Crowley did was develop a way to force the awakening of people's innate magical talent (hence Espers are artificial Gemstones).

>>143162055
The guy from Nura was great. What a glorious lying asshole.

>>143156518
Shapeshifting. We never get an MC with actual shapeshifting.

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>>143153307
>MC's power: GUTS AND DETERMINATION

>>143157284
sauce?

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>>143154356
>>143154526

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>>143165386
You better not be talking shit.

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>>143161259
Well The Law of Ueki at the very beginning was like this. I mean the MC has the power to turn garbage into trees, and that's it. All in all although it's drawn horribly it's a fun series with lots of wacky absurd powers.

It goes to the shitter when the MC is given godly weapons summoning because yadda yadda, but then again we get to see a villain with the power to turn gunplas into actual fucking giant robots (but he has to play with the toys in order to transform them)

>>143154356

Because telekinesis characters are almost always physically weak, and the standard shounen MC needs to have stamina and GUTS so that they can have the obligatory "bakana!!! how are you still getting up despite taking my attacks!!"-scene.

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>>143167113
Also grill MC has the power to (watch out) "Turn people into glasses fetishists, but they have to perform a cute anime pose for her power to work"

damn i have to read this shit again

>MC has the power to heal or restore things to a previous state
>heals the villain just to beat the shit out of him himself

You will see this soon.

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>MC's power is the other powers don't work on him
Literal fucking garbage no matter the series
Post him, go ahead; You don't think he's a good character either

>>143157202
I need this.

Also,

>MC's power: ability to make target go into heat

>>143161449

>Deku
>underpowered

anon

>>143167238
But that's from 1999

>>143162994
>>143163160
How about just a simple exchange of the things that happen? Where 10 punches equals to one super strong punch. Meeting a guy who's killed 10 people leads to a one hit KO, and so on? This'll probably be nitpicked by that breathing anon and he'll say something like "10 breaths and then you can exhale a whirlwind!", but that's good enough of a premise. You could probably apply this to negatives as well.

>>143156518
It doesn't matter if it's executed well

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>>143160044

>>143162664
Depends if the teleportation is limited someway

>>143159075
Could you give examples?

I literally can't name an ability (not even MC-exclusive) that's versatile, not too overpowered, yet has good potential.

>>143163626
>if something isn't moving, aka not having any vector at all, then he wouldn't be able to move it

But that's wrong. He doesn't just redirect vectors. He creates new ones if need be.

He touched a metal structure and launched parts of it at the TouMan, even though the structure wasn't moving.

>>143167430
Law of Ueki again maybe?

I remember reading a series where the MC was literally side character tier. Everyone around him has overpowered abilities and the only thing he was guns and mastery in rolling.

>>143167241
Dazai is a fun character though, too bad he stucks in a mediocre show.

>>143167287
Ichigo and Naruto aren't underpowered either, one has one of the most powerful demons Inside of him, the other is like a mix of every single being in the universe

>>143159075
>>143167430
That's what I really enjoy about JJBA. The abilities sometimes sound like hot garbage until the protagonist figures out a clever way to rules lawyer his enemies into submission. (Not all protagonists or villains, but some are really clever)
There should be more series where the powers have a fairly clear vertical power ceiling, but can be exploited through "exact wording".

>>143156518
A girl with a hot body. (temperature)

And the angrier she gets the hotter she gets. (temperature)

and she's tsundere

>>143167576
Which stands aren't overpowered but not shitty either, though? Stuff like KC, Made in Heaven or GER are bullshit-tier

>>143156518
Unit conversion/change
In h-manga, the MC could turn his 4 inch dick into a 4 foot dick

>>143155864
>A/Z
>Shit
I bet you like CG and think Lulu is perfect.

>>143167615
Echo

>>143167615
I liked KC because it was so silly in how powerful it was. GER is straight up bs. Made in Heaven fucked Pucci the hardest.
But right now off the top of my head, I'd say Cream Starter, Stone Ocean, Soft & Wet and Crazy Diamond (?). Quite a few are pretty shit and/or bs though.
>>143167662
Or a 4 liter dick. Imagine the applications!

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>>143167781
>4 kg of dick

>>143159328
Despite what?

Concept Manipulation usually irritates me when used.Like the guy that manipulates logic.

>>143167859
>Concept Manipulation (of any kind)
That's one broken as fuck ability and should be treated like the goddamn planet killer it is.

>>143162742
Hey I also thought of something like that some time ago!
It's a sight control power.
You can see through other people's eyes and make them see through others instead of their own.
Say there is a bird in the sky, you can use its powers to fully see the battlefield as well so you won't be surprised.

MC power is Nope Inducement.
Power: The user is capable of noping out of any situation no matter what. The word nope itself is capable of noping out of any changes to it allowing the user to nope at anything.

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>>143167880
This nigga had your powers and more:
Revival of the dead
Soul interrogation
Mind reading
Pushing/pulling things
Summoning abominable beasts
Absorbing attacks
Turning his body into technology

>>143156518
Exact Teleportation with a 3km range.
If he picks a location where non-gaseous particles reside, either he or the particles get shunted at a speed relative to the relative mass and density (of his body/the object).
Simple idea with fun executions.

>>143161259
Sakamato

>>143156518

>MC has ESP, telekinesis etc
>Instantly kills an enemy by moving a nerve in his brain

>>143168255
"Moving a nerve in his brain" is incredibly vague, m8. Just separate the brainstem from the diencephalon/cerebrum. There you have your instant kill.

>>143160187

Dorohedoro.

>>143159075
> but also has every day applications as well
I love when they use superpowers for mundane shit. I mean why would you get up to get the controller when you can use some magic to bring it to you?

>>143168313
It might be more interesting to disconnect parts of their brain instead of killing them.

You could disable the amygdalae to make them unable to feel certain negative emotions, for example.

>>143157112
Nigga wut? Did Accelerator moved an item outside his zone? Why would he be able to move cars, missiles or giant rocks only when they enter his zone while he would be able to move them at any distance? Because that WOULD BE telekinesis.
But how you can see he isn't able to do this- he is only able to control vectors.
Telekinesis ≠ Vector Manipulation

>mc gets the power to make magical artifacts
>only uses it to make an eternally burning blanket, a wall that repels blood and a pipe that ignites when it touches stone

>>143167460
He doesn't if you are referencing to the railways. First of all because of the Brownian motion everything is actually moving. Seccond he kicked the railway or smashed against the metal structure giving these objects a little movement which he amplifies a lot. That's just using those vectors for his own plans but not creating new ones.

>>143166781
Just think about all the tentacle porn. It would be top tier consentacles fuel

>>143164880
Me to ;_;

>>143167430
kiritsugu? can only manipulate time of his body making it slow or fast, it's only a support power, he uses it to think fast and dodge shit, he fucks shit up mainly using strategy and weapons, without those he would've died long time ago.

>>143156518
Ability to fuck succubi to death.

The MC is a dark hero hellbent on getting revenge on the succubus that raped and killed his buddy. Armed with his death-dick, he dicks through each and every succubus crossing his path until he is eye to eye with his target.

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>all these fucking edgelords ITT

What's wrong with being stronger and faster than your enemy.

Being powerless sucks cause it will only rely on retarded plot bullshit, like Batman

I want to see an mc with the power to make really good looking cakes, but the cakes taste like shit. Literally just like shit.

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>>143169112

>>143164986
reminds me of archer from fate/stay night.

>>143167611
reminds me of that index ero where biri biri starts releasing lightning as they have sex.

>>143169112
>stronger and faster
Because those are the most boring superpowers.

>>143168702
Or just go for the heart Crush

'POWER OF SODOMY COMPELS YOU!'

>>143165052
nah i think the "turn x in y" was fleshed pretty good in the series, sure it starts with boring "water into fire" but as it goes on it gets crazier, i loved the powers in the tournament. Like the guy who turned dumb haikus into reality or the military girl that had sketched projects take form

also towels-into-steel main cast power was cool as hell

>>143167967
Without cooldown teleport limitation is shit, you can just spam teleporting infinite distance, maybe have a homebase point where you teleporte only a limited distance from it

>>143168848
yep, a friendly reminder : everything in the universe is moving, the galaxy, sun, earth, everything, that pretty much means that even objects that looks standing still are moving, so everything already has a vector, not sure if author is stupid or trying to fake a limitation

>>143169499
Nice dubs

But they are also the safest for storytelling. Read the thread most powers would suck ass in a narative way

>>143170222
>safest for storytelling
>there are already side characters/antagonists with a better power and using it smarter than mc
you're implying that authors should write a whole universe with flying bricks alone, they already wrote good characters, it's just that viewers are stuck with the boring ass mc all the time

>>143170208
Yeah, forget about brown, the whole universe is expanding. Nice point and quite overpowered. I think that is the reason he can only handle it within this small radius. Telekinesis a shit.

>>143153307
>MC's power : invisibility while holding his breath

Would this be too broken?

>>143170658
What if your clothes aren't effected? You have to go around naked or with some tear-away stripper clothes.

>>143157373
mask probably, especially if the MC was anti-hero

>>143170582
small radius means shit when you can lunch projectiles at mach 1, it would've been better if you can only redirect vectors and not changing their speed, so a bullet can be deflected but a falling building will stand still because gravity negates itself
>>143170658
Tatsumi? invisibility doesn't mean you can't be sensed, he got discovered plenty of times because you can't hide it when you move, only good for standing still like a bitch

>>143159075
>>143167430
If we're counting girl protagonist, Mikoto's an excellent example.

>electromaster
>can generate standard electric and lightning attacks
>can use electro magnetism to control metalic objects as well as attach to buildings
>can use it to fire a railgun
>can hack appliances, computers, robots, etc.
>has an electro field detection that also blocks mental influences
>can use the electrity friction to heat stuff up
>still far from being the strongest

Coupled with being relatively humble but proud, having a sense of justice yet knows to give people their space, that's what made me like her as a character outside of Touma's influence.

>>143156518
The power of money.
The MC can Beatriz anyone and anything financially, metaphorically and physicalli with his assets.

>>143156985
>MC is Otto von Bismarck

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>>143171002

>>143170815
>mach 1
That's quite slow my dear Anon. He formed plasma in the air. That were some faster circulations.

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>MC has spiky dark hair and dark eyes

>>143170658
>putting a limit on powers
Kill yourself.

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>MC's power : bullshitting

still fucking hurts

>>143171002
I'm pretty sure ive seen something like this before, but it wasn't on the MC.

>MC's power : turn trash into trees

do you still remember the ride?

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>>143170815
>Tatsumi
I was thinking more this guy

>>143171266
Fuck you for reminding me :'(

>>143171524

>all that build-up about archer boy being some really hot shit
>completely outskilled the fuck with planning and a wooden club

why did this have to die? because it was a battle shonen without friendship powerups, asspull powerups, edgelord powerups, all during the final boss? He was getting used to being an alchemist styled fighter too along with that anti-magic training right before the cancellation

>>143169112
The discussion is clearly not about the fact they are bad powers, it is that the powers that OP mentioned are overused.

>>143169029
>eye to eye

>not dick to pussy

>MCs power
>punching people so hard they become doors

>>143156518
A teleport ability. Both fun and useful.

>>143171894
>implying all his dicking didnt absorb powers making him supernaturally powerful
>implying they wont engage in an epic dragonballZ tier shonen battle in the demon lands before he finally pins her down and fucks her to death
>he ends up in a farm knowing he cannot be with a woman without killing her. But then his childhood friend love interest who he had to reveal his powers to in the final battle uses the power of love to cleanse him and they have loads of loving sex together

>>143166915
Here's one

Novel18.syosetu.com/n0240cd/

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>>143158921
>MC's power
>Nothing
>But he's just unaware of his OP
A Certain Magical Index.
Half the story - omg I didn't know it would work!?

>MC with a great power is ranked low for some bullshit reason
Chivalry of a Failed Knight
Could be the best but powerful family doesn't want him to finish schooel so ranked worst.

>MC has no power
>But has a harem of powerful girls to defend him
Freezing.
Hugged the strongest character in the story because MC thought she is his sister, so she is MCs' bitch now.

Fascinating... I can do this all day...

> MC with the power of constantly generated defense
>Not absolute defense but it's pretty damn thick and it's always on.
> they also have other barrier based abilities

We need more barrier Masters

> processing power of a supercomputer
That's honestly all I want. Just the processing power of a supercomputer. And a regular average body but maybe regular average magic amount

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I love regeneration.

I don't care if it's cliché (een though it's not that common in MC), it's pretty cool to watch a fucked up dude slowly go back to normal. It makes for suffering fueled fights but gives good reason for the character to beat people stronger than him while he learns new techniques.

If the regenerative power isn't too overpowered or has conditions to it like eating or having a limit to how much it can heal, it makes for a great main character power.

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>>143153307
>MC's power : the ability to steal/copy other's powers

>>143172346
I know a series with mc that just has regeneration. That's it. He sucks at everything and just balls to the wall "bash them until they die" kind of guy