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This is Yoshio.
He works for the good of all. Apparently.
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He's on the autistic spectrum. I suspect he's got Asperger's.
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>This is Yoshio.
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>>143134194
I want to rape plain sexual harassment girl
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What the fuck is with those tumblerines shitposting on /a/ about episode 12?
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>>143136814
they wanted her to overcome her fears or some shit and not just accept that she has social anxiety and cant do anything about it
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>>143134194
>Sexual harassment
>For the greater good
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>>143134194
I wonder if he also traumatized her, since she goes "sexual harassment" on and on.
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Nips are so fucking mad about the anime original bullshit ending that there is kumamiko bad ending tag on twitter
https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=くまみこ バッドエンド&src=tyah
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>>143136995
Can't wait for the OVA to turn Machi into a confident sexually promiscuous city slut to compensate.
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>>143136995
Wow, script writer deleted his twitter account
https://twitter.com/pierre_sugiura/
The script writer's wikipedia page mysterious had the entry about his role in the show removed by someone who is currently living in the same area of Japan as the script writer...
https://twitter.com/nnnn330/status/745022627186544640
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>>143136984
It would explain her behavior as well, she's aware of him.
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>>143137029
hells yeah
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Reminder that if you like this show you're a sociopath
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>>143136984
That makes a lot of sense
Aren't they like the same age? maybe he raped her in school
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>>143137062
Now the manga author deleted his tumblr post where he said that the anime ending was bad.
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>>143137069
I think she just picked it up from the that gloomy megane secretary or whatever she is.
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>>143137338
With everything we've seen of him it's pretty safe to assume that Yoshio harasses people sexually whereever he goes.
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>>143137295
Wew, this damage control. His mistake of making fans from tumblr.
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When ratings for last episode will be out?
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My biggest problem with the end is that it basically confirmed that she is fucking the bear.

I mean, it's all fun and games when we shitpost about in on /a/, but having it actually happen is weird
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>>143137480

See >>143136504
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WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT ENDING?! WHY DOES SHE HAVE TO SUFFER SO MUCH?!!!
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Yoshio did nothing wrong.
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>>143137641
But episode showed that she mentally regressed into small child so she defitely isn't fucked by bear
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>>143134194
I haven't been watching this show since episode 5 but can anyone tell what happened in the last episode? I'm curious about all the backlash.
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>>143137743
That's what makes it so much worse. Natsu is a pedophile now. I mean, more of a pedophile.
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>>143137641
He's neutered. He can not fuck anything.
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>>143137295
Fucking hilarious.

Has there ever been another show that botched shit up this badly?
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>>143137748
Mostly people from not-tumblr complaining about anime original ending and it "betraying" their expectations of an innocent slice of life comedy about social anxiety.

>>143137641
>basically confirmed that she is fucking the bear
This is some next level delusion.

>>143137761
>admonishing pedophiles
>on /a/
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>>143137848
Yumekui Merry.
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>>143137810
MR. SAAAAAAAIIIIIIITO
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>>143137810
I know. Machi is the one fucking him with a dragon dildo.
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>>143137889
Don't remind me.
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>>143137889
INVISIBLE TRUMPET
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Holy shit the author really deleted the blog post.
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>>143137810
he lied.
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>>143137761
Natsu is moralfag, you delusional retard
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>>143137924
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>>143137924
>>143137973
TROMBONE
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>>143137748
Last few episodes are anime original. It progresses the idol idea with Yoshio taking her to a small idol contest in the city. Machi has a panic attack on stage and runs off. She finds her courage, Yoshio spews some crap about her bneeding to be a sacrifice for the village like the first miko, and her dance impresses everyone and is good enough to merit a special award.

Instead of hearing the crowd cheering, she hallucinates that they're all booing and throwing rocks at her. When they get her back home she starts crying and saying she never wants to go to the city again and gives up on her dreams of going to school there with Natsu reinforcing this and she meantally breaks as Natsu tells her she doesn't need to do anything difficult again. Post ED scene is Machi reverted into a child-like mental state as she plays with Natsu. Happy and upbeat music is playing during all of this.
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>>143138023
In other words everything idolshit related was anime original?
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>>143137848
Kokoro connect.
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>>143137848
Jojo 2007
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>>143138047
The idea to turn Machi into an idol comes up once or twice in the manga but the anime greatly expanded on it and she never attends any events or contests.
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>>143137641
Are you retarded?
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Why do Japs insist on making 2 episodes drama for the end in comedy and sols?
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>>143138240
I don't know, but usually they find this great.
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Scriptwriter of the episode deleted his Twitter and Facebook account. Also tried to remove the show from his Wikipedia page.

The author of the manga said in a blog post (that he later deleted) that he didn't check the scripts because he wanted to leave it to the professionals. He also said he didn't like Yoshio's original lines from the anime.

Nico's rating went from 90% to 60% and the last episode, to be streamed next Sunday, will go even lower.

The BD box didn't get any post-finale/pre-release boost, chances are that some people cancelled their reservations.
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>>143138385
Good.
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>>143138385
I don't know whether I should feel bad or laugh at this entire shitfest.
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>>143138296
It was great. It's just that this time the fanbase was composed of tumblrites who couldn't handle the fact that Machi loses to social anxiety at a minor decision in her life and returning to a child-like state that she's supposed to have since she is still technically a child.
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>>143138385
>Scriptwriter of the episode deleted his Twitter and Facebook account. Also tried to remove the show from his Wikipedia page.
This is such a silly overreaction. I mean, sure, he fucked up, but you don't try to delete your online presence over it.
He should have tried to make some sort of apology instead, possibly promising a fix if it's within his power.

Can script writers shave their heads to show how sorry they are?
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>>143138451
>enjoying garbage just to spite tumblr
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>>143138451
>anything and anyone I don't like is from Reddit/tumblr etc.
Fuck off.
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>>143138463
Japanese "Fans" are the literal worst.
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>>143138451
>tumblrites
Are you retarded? Everybody and their mother loved sexualizing Machi, both /a/ and 2chan had the most degenerate of thoughts about her.

Fuck off with this bullshit.
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>>143138463
We don't know for sure what happened but maybe he got harassed?
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>>143138517
You're consuming entertainment specifically tailored to a demographic you hate.
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>>143138524
>Everybody and their mother loved sexualizing Machi,
And suddenly you're butthurt about the ending like the tumblerina you are. Fuck off.
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>>143138451
>tumblrites

You really are trying your hardest to force this aren't you? Too bad you're alone in this.
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>>143138547
Nice boogeyman.
Isn't it nice that anyone who has ever disagreed with you has been from tumblr?
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>>143138547
>getting mad over unfunny original dramashit at the final episode is now being tumblr
Literally braindead.
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>>143138618
Don't use emoticons on /a/.
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>>143138096
But it wasn't due to changes in plot and not at the end of series
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It all makes sense now

Machi is now nothing more than a source of talking bear cubs for the village
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>>143138618
>:^)
It eases my mind to know that you're a crossboarder.

Fuck off.
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>>143138546
Liking a product =/= liking its consumers.
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>>143138706
What?
I never even implied that.
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The show was never anything that special to begin with. It's not really worth getting bothered by the ending being subpar.
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>>143138493
>>143138483

Ignore the tumblr-anon. He was shitposting all through the end of the previous thread too.
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>>143138706
You are its consumer.
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>>143138738
Then what's the problem with "hating" (more like disapproving of their behavior) hardcore otakus?
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>>143138688
Good, I do my best to calm down my opponents. You make some good points.
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Why are people bringing in Tumblr into this thread? It's not in any way related.
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somebody really should translate the manga
you nonjapfags are missing out
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>>143138857
Just ignore the false flagging shitposter.
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>>143138890
>false flagging shitposter.
The ones who complain-shitpost about the ending?
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>>143138857
A guy was calling everyone who didn't like the ending an angry autist in the last thread until an anon posted a link to a post the mangaka made on tumblr about the ending. From there he started calling everyone who didn't like the ending a tumblrite.
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>>143138957
The one who brought up tumblr in all this.
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I need to watch this.

This is the Most interesting series and ending recently by the sounds of it.

For both SoL and whatever this rage storm is, is it worth it?
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>>143139043
The ending isn't bad in a funny way. It's just bad.
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>>143138463
Maybe the rest of the staff threw him under the bus. By deleting his accounts, it makes it seem like he was the only one responsible for the changes.

It also gives the impression that it was just moefag otakus being unreasonable, sending death threats and shit. Basically playing the victim card like vidya personalities like to do, and burying all the reasonable complaints. It's the most manipulative and dirtiest PR tactic, but people keep falling for it, like this friend here >>143138517 , so they'll keep using it.
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>>143139043
Nothing really to rage over. Just people not getting the humor/not liking the ending.
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>>143136984
>>143137062
I am a few episodes behind, what happened? This thing is mostly jsut episodical SoL comedy but I doubt people would get that mad over a filler episode for the end. Did Machi fuck someone or what?
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>>143139076
There was nothing funny about the ending though, filthy secondary.
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So how badly did they fuck up the ending?
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>>143139043
Well you need to watch it fast. The novelty of discussion will probably last for a week or at least until the numbers for Kuma Miko's first BD volume shows up.
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>>143138451
This has nothing to do with tumblr and you're just being pointlessly contrarian. People are upset because Machi is the character you're supposed to empathize with the most and, not only did we see her fail and give up on her goal, none of the other characters are bothered by this (in fact, Natsu is delighted) and the show itself presents it as an ending we're supposed to feel good about.
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>>143139082
>machi does idol contest
>nervous as fuck
>does decently, I think she got an award
>her mind is so scared that she thought applauds were stones thrown at her
>no one corrects this when even a video recording could fix the problem
>machi decides to stay in the village when this event could've been a step closer to her goal
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>>143138751
Don't you remember how they reacted to Nagi being slut in Kannagi manga? It's Japan, they care.
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>>143139082
Read the thread, the ending has been posted a couple of times.

If for nothing else its bad because it puts a cap on an ongoing series by having Machi give up on her dream and turning retarded.
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Would you repopulate the Kumade-mura with her?
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>>143139128
Third day of threads raging over it and counting. Seriously, just read through this thread alone. The ending has already been posted like 3 times.
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>>143139082
>>143087799
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>>143139103
>filthy secondary

That's actually pretty funny. I take it you're one of the retards who have been crying non-stop that the show didn't fulfill your "comfy" expectations? It's in line with the manga, the humor is supposed to be slightly mean-spirited, it's about Machi, her life, and how she can't deal with a lot of things, but it's all in gag form, she still gets on fine with her daily life. Maybe, maybe you could legitimately say that the anime didn't adapt that very well. But why worry about all that. Keep on being triggered by the ending.
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>>143139307
>maybe you could legitimately say that the anime didn't adapt that very well

Exactly.
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>>143139082
She has a nightmare in the manga where she goes to the city and people throw rocks at her. In the anime, Yoshio and Natsu manipulate her into participating in an idol contest in the city and her anxieties take over, making the nightmare a reality in this adaptation. Natsu goes to pray to the mountain god so she does good in the contest, but starts crying saying that what he really wants is for Machi to always be dependent on him so she can never leave the shrine.

During the contest, she starts having vivid hallucinations of people insulting her and throwing rocks at her. When she comes back she's traumatized from the experience and Natsu tells her it's OK, that she no longer needs to worry or think about anything anymore. The last we see of her is she acting like a 5 year old while happy music plays in the background. The mountain god granted Natsu's wish and she'll stay with him until he dies.
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>>143138663
>inappropriate social interaction
>poor eye contact
>compulsive behavior
>persistent repetition of words or actions
>learning disability(see rice cooker episode)
>unaware of others' emotions(can't read between the lines)
>anxiety


no, she just shows signs of literal autism. The bears don't wanna breed with that, they just use her as a sex toy.
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>>143139307
It's amazing how you can understand all that but still not think the ending was bad.
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>>143138663
Reminder that ending 4koma animation Machi is post-mind break Machi.
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>>143139468
Thinking the ending was bad =/= raging over it
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>>143139254
Sekuhara.
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>>143139223
>It's Japan, they care.
One screenwriter ruined series. There's no reason for bad end out of nowhere.
And right now people will cancel pre orders. Studio lost money because of one autist. It's not about pandering.
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>>143137848
Mahou Sensou and Rail Wars
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>>143139254
Yoshio probably turned her into a hardcore lesbian.
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>>143139371
>>143139391
>>143139468

There's no issue with the episode at all per se. It's just the fact that they ended on it. If they had another episode or two where they would have shown her again engaging in her shenanigans, struggling with whatever, like it does in the manga, it would have been fine. But people seem to think that this somehow means that she's been "mind broken" for life or something. It's just an extended gag, the music should have been a dead give away.

So while I can say that I don't really think it was the best way to end the series, I don't think the episode itself was poorly done. And no, I can't understand all these people crying like she got burned at the stake or something.
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>>143139582
Oh yeah, Rail Wars' author had issues with the adaptation as well iirc.

The anime was garbage but a lot of fun to watch with /a/.
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>>143139582
Those were bad from the get-go. Kuma Miko had raving reception at the first half then it nose-dived into oblivion and the finale was the nail in the coffin.

I'd love to say maybe A/Z but that became mediocre really early on.
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>>143139579
>Studio lost money
Studio was paid long time ago. Production committe is who gets revenues from sales and they are defintely angry.
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I wish the show stayed comfy but at least it did not puss out at the end and have here miraculously overcome her fears.
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>>143139582
They weren't liked nor popular at all
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Just wait till fall anon. After all the productions studios see how much nips want comfy anime they will all cash in. It is too late for them to do it for the summer season but I bet fall will be awash in comfy sol.
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>>143139676
The manga publisher too as adaptations are supposed to boost volume sales.

And lets not forget that this series was supposed to promote the Sendai region as well.
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Why didn't they just adapt manga chapters as is? Did they really think the original story arc thing was necessary?
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>>143137848
Dance in the Vampire Bund
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>>143139743
You need more than 1/4 - 1/2 a year to produce an anime, even an adaptation. You need longer than that just for most network timeslots to be available for purchase again as most are paid for and reserved long in advance.
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I'm so happy all the comfyfags got BTFO.

AOTS.
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>>143139818
Don't kill me dreams anon.
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>>143139744
Manga sales definitely won't suffer
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>>143139840
But they probably won't get that boost either.
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>>143139783
I assume they were trying to get in on the idol anime craze.
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>>143136930
Well, she can't. If it wasn't obvious enough, Natsu had been unknowingly sabotaging her attempts at becoming a city girl. He, of all bears, should have known to not shoved her out to the city for a task without any sort of preparation. He wanted her to fail, but he was lying to himself about that fact.

Seriously, Yoshio had her best interest at heart and has the excuse of not really knowing her crippling social anxiety since he's dense as fuck, Natsu does not. In short, bear wants loli and willing to do whatever it takes to keep her, even if it means locking her up in a proverbial bird cage.
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>>143139825
Why do people keep thinking its comfy fags complaining? Most of them left a while back. No one has been saying its bad because it wasn't comfy. We're saying its bad because they created an original ending that took things too far and it stopped being funny.

And I say this as someone who read the manga and expected the lewd and bullying coming into the series and was laughing at comfy fags back at the beginning.
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RIP Kinema Citrus
RIP Yuyushiki S2
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>>143139783
An age-old question.

>>143139840
As I said in the other thread, this could be better for the manga than a normal ending. Reading the manga is the best way to forget this unfunny mess and go back to the dumb hick Machi who tries hard but fails, but in a way that's actually funny.
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>>143140035
It's bad because it isn't comfy.
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To be fair, the anime really loved to drag out Machi's paranoia at some points. At those points, I found the show the have the same problems Watamote had except even worse because it didn't have wacky pseudo-SHAFT visuals.
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>>143140110
Did Watamote have Shaft visuals?
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Machi is out there right now is some hick village SUFFERING from her anxiety and it will never get better.
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>>143140047
They still have one last chance. They better not fuck it up.
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>>143139666
>Kuma Miko had raving reception at the first half
Except from ANN.
Now look at the backlash, it's like ANN was right.
Does /a/ finally agree with ANN?
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>>143140035
The ending wasn't so much an original as it was a different approach. Both basically had Machi back at the village in her ignorant ways. Manga might have kept it as a joke, it had also invalidate all the hard work she did in her dream to Sendai. Anime just played it straight, by both rewarding her effort with a trophy but amped up her social anxiety. It might seem cruel in the anime but remember, manga Machi didn't even try and her crippling social anxiety is still there.
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When does the next SoL start airing? I need to forget this shit.
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>>143140179
Who cares what ANN says?
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>>143140179
ANN shit on it because it looked like it would be comfy anime whereas we shit on it because it turned out to not be comfy anime so we do not agree with ANN.
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>>143140035
There are fags like this one >>143139688 using that word, whether it is false flagging or just plain retardation. Everyone watching till the end knew that the show was a comedy about miko bullying and lewds.
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>>143140204
NEW GAME! is 12 days away, we will be saved then anon.
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>>143140239
It needed more LEWD and less bully.
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The first signs this was going to be a crap adaptation were back when they swapped the parts hibiki first appears in.

In the manga, Machi has her freakout with Yoshio at the mall first. Seeing how self-concious she is of her clothes, he asks Hibiki to take her clothes shopping.

The anime reversed this and removes this characterizing moment for Yoshio, instead just sending her randomly shopping.
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Anyone that defends the ending by saying that it's stupid to assume that you can overcome social anxiety through sheer willpower, or that it's okay to not only completely give up but regress to a worse state than your initial one, is a fucking retard.

There are good endings where the protagonist realizes that his goals are futile and ends up starting right back at square one. This isn't one of them.
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>>143140249
The threads will be fucking terrible.
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>>143140179
Any argument that supports itself with ANN's opinion is inherently invalid.
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>>143140110

Which is funny because I think even that show at least had Tomoko become self-aware of her dysfunctional personality as some sort of anime original 'happy' end.
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>>143140336
She's always been self-aware though.
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>>143140297
explain yourself
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I can kind of understand the hatred toward the writers though, you could see the whole ending as a massive troll. Or worse still, that they just don't give a shit.
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>>143140409
>manga only known because of a shitty meme
>video games

It'll attract the same memesters from the NNB threads and such.
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Did people not just want a black comedy downer-gag ending?

I mean I can understand the sentiment.
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I wish Machi was real so she could read these threads and see how much we hate her anime, her suffering would be divine.
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>>143140179
ANN hated it because of the machi lewding though, completely different
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>>143140437
>memesters from the NNB threads
So my peeps! This is great news indeed.
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>>143140445
Considering Kumamiko isn't a black comedy, I don't see why anyone would want that.
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>>143140292
It's a bad ending, but nevertheless, it is an effective one. Had it been the generic 'it was a dream' or 'she finally overcame her anxiety' ending, people would have forgotten all about this anime within a season. Now, we get people talking about this for a while and get them to realize just how crippling social anxiety really is. It is not something that can overcome with willpower nor can it be cure in one shot. It takes years of dedication, a lot of support from friends and family, and acknowledgment that this is a real issue that needs to be tackled. It might have ruined the whole comedy aspect, but it damn well made you mad enough to acknowledge this problem and not forget it when you switch over to next anime.
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>>143140527
It's effective only because it was awfully done, not because it hits you.
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>>143140527
They could have made her anxiety lessened, not cured or something along those lines. Basically the whole premise that the show was leading up to was a complete waste of time.
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>>143140527
>Had it been the generic 'it was a dream' or 'she finally overcame her anxiety' ending

Or they could have just ended it with stand alone episodes adapted from the manga.
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>>143140437
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>>143140527
What? Fuck no. Nobody gives a fuck about that.

Everybody will remember it because it was a shitty anime original ending.
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>>143140437
What meme?
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>>143140527
>Now, we get people talking about this for a while and get them to realize just how crippling social anxiety really is. It is not something that can overcome with willpower nor can it be cure in one shot.
You're reading way too much into the ending.
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>>143140527
That would only be true if it was well portrayed or even their intent. People aren't going to remember it for how serious social anxiety is, they're going to remember it for how terrible the ending itself was and the writer trying to do damage control.
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>>143138385
I can't lie. This is kind of satisfying to watch happen to them for making this shitshow of an ending.
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>>143140600
How is that reading into anything? That is exactly what happened...
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>>143140594
I think he refers to a DJT image.
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>>143140527
>reading too deeply about a cute girl cartoon
Howbout you go back to tumblr or whatever shithole you crawled out from?
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>>143138023
>she meantally breaks as Natsu tells her she doesn't need to do anything difficult again. Post ED scene is Machi reverted into a child-like mental state as she plays with Natsu. Happy and upbeat music is playing during all of this.

THIS IS NOT FUCKING OKAY
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>>143140552
>>143140559
>>143140561
Which would have lessen the impact. Social anxiety isn't something to be laughed at. I mean, who here actually takes Tomoko's social anxiety seriously anymore? Everyone now treats Watamote as a yuri-harem romcom. The real and very depressing issue of her society anxiety isn't even an issue anymore.
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>>143140527

Are you listening to yourself right now? Open people's eyes to social anxiety? Jesus fucking Christ those two 1500~ posts Futaba threads didn't even remotely mention how they were suddenly giving a fuck about a disorder like that. They were just lewding Machi, making jokes about the shit ending, and shitting at how badly done the anime original bad end was.

Get over yourself.
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>>143140658
I know right? He should have scolded her so that her anxiety would flair up and then the end could have been her curled up in a ball crying!
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>>143140680
But you were supposed to laugh at Machi, they simply fucked up.
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>>143140680
>Social anxiety isn't something to be laughed at.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>143140680
>this is a SERIOUS anime with a SERIOUS message
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>>143140680
Wow you just triggered like half of the posters in this thread, well done.
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>>143140684
Right, which is what I had said. Bad ending, but an effective one. No one would have still been talking about it had it went with the manga ending &/or solved her anxiety problem ending.
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>>143140680
I hope you realize that the ending was actually supposed to be funny. In fact, both Machi's and Tomoko's conditions are always played off for laughs.

You're taking this shit too seriously. They just botched up the fucking ending that's all there is to it.
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>>143140680
The focus of the anime or even the purpose of those scenes was not to show how serious social anxiety is. Machi freaking out was supposed to be part of the humor and they failed at it. You are reading way too deeply into this.
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>>143140769
No, you said it would make people aware of social anxiety.

It didn't.
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>>143140727
It made full use of its medium to deliver a message. I hate it because it's no longer a comedy but I do have to give it respect to get people talking about an actual real life problem.
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>>143140680
>The real and very depressing issue of her society anxiety isn't even an issue anymore.
Was it ever? Pretty sure the appeal was "hey look, it's /a/ as a girl."
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>>143140804
Except they tried to play off the anime original episodes as comedy.
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>>143140680
No one needs to treat Watamote seriously because it didn't teach anyone anything. The whole reason it became popular was because anons saw part of themselves in Tomoko, so they already knew what it was like.

Just like half of the reactions to the episode when Machi had to work at the supermarket were of people relating to the experience.
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>>143140778
It honestly stopped being funny back during Machi's visit to the mall. I don't think I laughed during those social anxiety panic attack moments. It was incredibly depressing.
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Holy shit what is even going on in this anymore?
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>>143140804
It never stopped being a comedy though. It just became a really poorly done one.
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>>143140861
Some retard trying to play off the writer of the last episode as the next Stanley Kubrick.
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>>143140803
People are still talking about it after the anime has ended. And let's be honest here, can you actually forget this ending a few months from now?
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>>143140861
An anon is either leading everyone on with easy bait or is actually fucked in the head. I can't figure out which at this point.
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>>143140889
Yes, I probably could. But even if I couldn't, being remembered for being bad is hardly a positive thing unless it's one of those "so funny it's bad" shows. This is not one of them.
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>>143140889
So it's supposed to be a good thing? Like those pop stars that did all kinds of fucked up shit just to get their face on the paper?
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>>143140886
Not even saying it was deep. I'm saying they just played her social anxiety straight instead of laughing it off like in the manga.
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>you like the ending because bullying mind break fetish is satisfied
Doujins when
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>>143140889
>People are still talking about it after the anime has ended
Yes but people aren't talking about social anxiety or whatever the fuck you're on about.

They're just talking about how shit the ending is.
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If they wanted to deliver an important message about mental health they would come out and say it, not act like they fucked up and have the scriptwriter delete his accounts. Their actions are proof that that wasn't their intention at all and they simply botched the tone of the episode. If only they had been smarter about it they could have used your excuse and taken the high road, but they failed to do that too.
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>>143140889
It hasn't even been a week since it ended and the new season hasn't started yet. Of course people are still discussing it. In a week nobody will give a rats ass about it.
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>>143140940
Well, yeah. Good or bad, getting people to remember something is incredibly hard. Think back on how many anime you have watched and how many of them you actually remembered?
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>>143140941
Don't even waste your time anon, they don't want to understand what you are saying. They see shit in black or white and are unable to see when something is a bit of both.

The show was shit the last episode at least stuck to its guns and should be respected for that.
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Holy shit Yoshio is a retard. How hard is it to get that Machi doesn't want that idol shit. I even liked him at first but he overdid it with this shitty village publicity stuff.
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This would be the perfect setting for a girl management h-game honestly.

Machi would have different stats and depending on those stats and certain decisions you make throughout the game, there'd be a fuckton of possible endings to get which obviously are mostly bad ends.
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>>143140889
People are talking about the ending, they are not talking about social anxiety. Nobody gives a shit about that. You can fuck off to tumblr if you want to blabber on about how "important" the Kumamiko ending is and how it bravely tackles real-life social issues or whatever.
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>>143141005
I remember each and single one.
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>>143140849
It's not our problem if you can't laugh at yourself once in a while.
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>>143141005
People like you is why the industry is total shit.
Off yourself.
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>>143140955
Right, which is my point. There's really no way you can't tall about how shit the ending is without talking about how they dealt with her social anxiety. It has a bad ending, but it was effective. They got you to remember it. Everytime you think of loli miko, you wil remember how they ruined the ending by her being unable to overcome her problem.
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I don't want her to get over her anxiety, that's too much but leaving no hope and leaving her as an empty shell is what's so disgusting.

They just went along with her delusions.
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>>143140628
Nobody is going to talk about it except you. Most people will either laugh or say it was shitty and unfunny.
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What went wrong?
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>>143141105
What makes you think she has no hope? The day after a traumatic event she does not want to go to the city anymore ... she could change her mind in a week for all we know.
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>>143141094
No, your point was how this shitty ending somehow will spread the knowledge of social anxiety. But it failed at that too.
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http://may.2chan.net/b/res/415593346.htm

Still going strong.
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>>143141159
Natsu will do his best to not let her get better.
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>>143141105
Like I posted above, that's just an issue with the fact that this was the last episode. It's supposed to be just be a large gag, hence the music, etc. If they had one more episode after this showing her doing her usual stuff, struggling with her usual things, nobody would have said anything. But for some reason people can't get that, and seem to think she's just broken for life.
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>>143141094
>There's really no way you can't tall about how shit the ending is without talking about how they dealt with her social anxiety.
"It wasn't funny"
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>thought the last part of the episode was one of those bad dream sequences about the character imagining things turning out horrible before revealing everything was actually ok
>it never happened
>mfw it was all real
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>>143138385
>>143140620
It's a better ending than the one the anime got.
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>>143141174
>almost 3000 posts
Holy fuck.
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>>143141159
>>143141176

Natsu even filmed her saying she won't go to school in the city.
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>>143141174
>>143141218

Summarize the thread senpai.
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>>143141174
Translate it.
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>>143141105
>I don't want her to get over her anxiety
I'm pretty sure only contrarian shitters were strawmanning with that argument. The story would end if Machi became a normal girl, it's like wanting Yotsuba to grow up. Most people just expected things to stay the same, as expected from a gag manga.
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>>143141172
But it's happening already. After all, you can't tell me how shit the ending is without telling why it's shit. Because they failed to make her social anxiety into a joke like the manga did. Face it, whether you like it or not, you are now forced to remember Machi as a failed child with severe mental issues.
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>>143141275
"Ending was bad"

Both in that it was a "bad end" and that it sucked.
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>>143141174

i dropped the show after nothing happened in the second? third? episode, why do people hate the ending?
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>>143141292
>But it's happening already

It's really not.
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>>143141335
They wanted nothing to happen, stuff happened.
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>>143141335
Read the thread or fuck off.
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>>143141380
thanks
>>143141386
not a fucking chance
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>>143141335
Anime original ending with a bad end confusingly portrayed as a good end with idol shit nobody cared about and a worse than status quo result.

They basically fucked up the humor hard.
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>>143141380
You got it the wrong way around.
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>>143141361
But it is. Watch, when the next thread pops up, it will be filled with nothing but shitposting about the ending. Someone will ask why is it so bad, and someone will inevitably talk about her mental issue. It's going to happen, whether you want it to or not.
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>>143138023

holy shit this is some fucked in the head shit
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>>143141276
>>143141275
It's fucking long but basically:
What this guy said >>143141334
They're talking about all the shit that happened with the mangaka posting on his blog as well as the scripwriter deleting his accounts.
Then there's this big discussion over shit adaptations, other shows which had just as big negative backlash, and they even mentioned us.

And no before you even start autist-kun, there's only a handful of posts in that 3000~ post thread which talk about 'social anxiety' and even then nobody gives a fuck too much about it. They're all talking about the implications of staff fucking with the source material.
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>>143141432
>Now, we get people talking about this for a while and get them to realize just how crippling social anxiety really is. It is not something that can overcome with willpower nor can it be cure in one shot. It takes years of dedication, a lot of support from friends and family, and acknowledgment that this is a real issue that needs to be tackled. It might have ruined the whole comedy aspect, but it damn well made you mad enough to acknowledge this problem and not forget it when you switch over to next anime.

It's not happening.
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>>143141215
At least this is actually funny.
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>>143141447
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>>143141288
>gag manga
>expected things to stay the same

Again, why are people acting like none of what you said happened? The whole fucking end of the episode was a gag, she's exactly like she was to begin with. I guarantee if there was another episode, she would wake up perfectly fine, and have some other issues to deal with at the village. And then in a week or two, she would decide to try to go to the city again. Her "breaking" is supposed to be a fucking joke, why is that so hard to see.
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I wish I knew what they were thinking with the ending, what was their logic behind it.
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>>143141468

Are there any posts of people planning to drop their preorders?
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>>143140204
There are still a few SoL airing I think.
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>>143141468
So its actually exactly the same as us, just on a larger scale.
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>>143141468
Actually, Japan talked a lot about Machi getting into Kamille at the end of Zeta.
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>>143141193
But it was the last episode, maybe it's you who doesn't understand that once a story ends there's an expectation of continuity within that world. No one watches a story where the hero saves the day and thinks "well, after that he probably fell down the stairs and became a tetraplegic", because it is assumed that the story ends when all the important events relating to it have taken place. You would think that someone who writes scripts professionally knows this, and would end the series in a way that shows that things remain the same. Maybe the scene with Machi and Natsu playing was intended to show that, but if that's the case he obviously failed.
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>>143141517
It's a joke, but they forgot to write the punchline.
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>>143141492
Oh yes it will. Do you want to know why? Because it's the perfect bait. Someone out there can't resist since it's a sure fire way to get replies. I mean, look at how many posts i got from my initial post and I was actually being serious here. Somewhere out there is a troll that wants to watch the world burn and he wouldn't hesitate to start this shitfest by bringing up her social anxiety. It's going to happen, not because people want to talk about it, but because it gets people mad.
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>>143141211
>yfw that's exactly how it was in the original
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>>143141585
There's probably a lot that I missed. I just scanned that huge thread.

Might read it completely later today.
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>>143141619
See >>143141174 >>143141468
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>>143141619
In any case, good job ruining any potential for actual discussions about social anxiety with your autistic shitposting.
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>>143141680
You're just proving my point here. People are talking about the ending, it will be remembered. Whether they want to or not, the social anxiety issue, no matter how trivial it is, will be remembered alongside the shit ending. Because you can't talk about how shit it is without remembering about it in the first place. It will be brought up eventually.
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>>143141583
It never gets old seeing how similar /a/ and 2chan really can be even though we shit on otakus all the time.
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>>143141750
Hey, I did say it will be remembered, and since I had said it was a bad ending regardless, I never did say it will be remembered in a good way.
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>>143141784
>>143141199
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>>143141447
What is expected?
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>>143141612
Reminder that you're actually fucking the bear.
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>>143141784
>Now, we get people talking about this for a while and get them to realize just how crippling social anxiety really is

This was your point. And no one is talking about the social anxiety itself.

See >>143141468
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>>143141595
>>143141602

I'm not saying the handled it in the best way. They ought to have done this an episode before, or wrapped it up in a cleaner punchline, for lack of a better word. If someone had any knowledge of the manga, they would know that that's how it is, it's all played as gags around her inability to cope.

But putting that aside, there's saying the joke didn't resolve well, and the hordes of people acting like this is some sort of super psychological horror story, and that Machi is now and forever some broken shell surrounded by psychopaths. They genuinely believe that. How the fuck do you make that leap? And I'm not just talking on /a/. Go to some shithole like mal or ann or something, and you have some people actually frothing at the mouth, actually talking about child abuse, mental illness, all sorts of stupid shit for a fucking adaptation of a gag manga.

I don't get it for a second, and I don't think the studio anticipated this big a mis-read of the ending either.
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>>143141784
No nigger. The main resounding thing people will remember here is that the staff fucked up.

The most important point people are learning here isn't the effects of social anxiety but the effects of having staff/writers/directors fucking around with source material.
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>>143141657
I don't know shit about Gundam and had to look up what the fuck did カミーユ mean, because I kept seeing it mentioned (a Kamille ending, ending like Kamille, etc.). It wasn't just one or two people saying it.
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>>143141896
Except as that anon had brought up about the 3k posts, there were some talk about it. I did say it will be brought up, and whether they want to talk about it or not, it being a core reason why the ending sucked means that people will remember that part as well.
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>>143142052
Backpedaling hard.
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>>143142008
In the end of Zeta Gundam the villain does a last minute psychic attack against the MC (Kamille) before he dies, fucking Kamille up mentally and regressing him to a child like mental state. (In the novel version after he panics about wanting to get let out and takes the helmet off he opens the cockpit door. In the vacuum of space.
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>>143141985
And what got fucked from the source material? No matter what happens, someone will have to mention that the trip wasn't a dream, which would get people to ask, 'why is it not being a dream such a big difference?' There's really no way to avoid it. Machi's anxiety attacks stopped being treated like a joke will be brought up if someone keeps asking questions. It stopped being funny is part of the reason why the ending is shit.
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>>143141860
Red Data Girl, guess I need to put something easier there.
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Dunno, I didn't interpret the ending as negative as most others. Yoshio is an idiot, but I knew this before. The rest felt more like Machi was just stopping to force herself doing shit she doesn't want - at least for a while - and enjoying her childhood/teenage years instead. This whole idol shit she wasn't actually interested in depressed me more to be honest.
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>>143142128
Backpedaling what? I said the ending is shit, but effective in that people will remember it because they played Machi's anxiety straight. It will be talked about in some form due to how controversial/bad the ending was. No matter what, her social anxiety issue will be talked about, no matter how trivial it is.
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>>143142277
Maybe go back and read your original post before you stray too far.
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Jesus christ, stop replying to that autist.
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>>143142303
And what is my original post?
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>>143142159
What does dreams have to do with anything?
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>>143142309
This. I'm more interested on updates about scriptwriter as well as the staff.
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>>143142355
This confirms you no longer have any idea what you're even talking about.
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>>143134296
The village must horribly inbred.
Autism, sociopathy, delusions, youth delinquency, alcoholics, sexual harassment, child abuse, bestiality...
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Why are nips angry about the ending again? I thought they liked seeing Machi miserable and broken.
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>>143142412
She was smiling and laughing at the end.
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>>143142392
Or since you don't know what my original post is, how do you know I was straying from it?
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>>143142436
In the way that a 5yo would be smiling and laughing.
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>>143142443
Of course I know what it is. I quoted it several times. But you not realizing it confirms again you have no idea what you're even talking about anymore. I'm done with you.
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>>143142360
Well, the whole Sendai trip was just a dream. So that whole ending sequence of her laughing had absolutely nothing to do with her admitting she doesn't want to be a city girl anymore. It's two completely unrelated scenes.
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>>143142545
No, it wasn't.
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>>143142506
Yep, you don't even know anymore. And we're done here. No point in arguing with someone that doesn't even know what they are talking about anymore.
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>>143142598
Funny how you tried to take your own confusion and turn it around onto someone else.
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>>143142545
>Natsu straight-up asks Machi how Sendai was
>hurr it was just a dream
You're an idiot.
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>>143142436
>She was smiling and laughing at the end.
Oh, that's why they're mad. Fucking nips.
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>>143143066
Now she's perfect.
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>>143137295
>Regarding the Anime

>I just saw the final episode of the Kumamiko anime, and I can tell the that the anime staff have worked very hard and overcome many hardships. It really drove home for me the power of anime. Thank you so much for working so hard the whole time.
>I declined the opportunity to check the script beforehand. The anime staff are professionals, so I left it up to them. Therefore, I know that I'm not qualified to say this, but speaking as a fan of the original work, I think what Yoshio said was horrible.
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>>143141447
Reminder that McMurphy was incarcerated for the statutory rape of a child. I just don't think he would be such a sympathetic character these days.
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>>143143401
>statutory rape
So he didn't actually rape anyone.
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>>143138023
>Instead of hearing the crowd cheering, she hallucinates that they're all booing and throwing rocks at her. When they get her back home she starts crying and saying she never wants to go to the city again and gives up on her dreams of going to school there with Natsu reinforcing this and she meantally breaks as Natsu tells her she doesn't need to do anything difficult again. Post ED scene is Machi reverted into a child-like mental state as she plays with Natsu. Happy and upbeat music is playing during all of this.
Holy shit. This sounds amazing.
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>>143143350
You know you've fucked up bad when even the author of the source material has to say that.
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For people who are asking about the dream thing, in the manga Machi has a brief dream (Just a few panels) where she visits Sendai and the people throw rocks at her before she wakes up. It was a one off thing and she continues to want to go to school in the city.

In the anime, they make her actually go to Sendai for an idol contest, and she hallucinates people are throwing rocks at her (Which she thinks really happened) which causes her to break and give up on her dreams, which is where the anime ends.

No idea what he's trying to get at by saying they're the same when they clearly weren't in their execution or outcome other than "Being Stoned in Sendai".
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10 years from now this ending will be regarded as a masterpiece just like Evangelion's TV ending is.
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>>143143899
EoKM when?
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>>143143350
>The anime staff are professionals, so I left it up to them.

Biggest mistake they've ever made.
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>>143137848
C3bu

>We're going to be adapting this manga about cute girls playing airsoft.
>So we're doing a straight adaptation for garunteed money off of the current cute girls + weapons fad?
>No of course not, we're going to fill it with anime original drama and crazy daydream sequences that make all the girls into either tryhards or huge bitches.
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New ending retcon OVA when?
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>>143144258
>implying the OVA hasn't already been made
>implying it isn't just some hardcore enabling
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Imagine if shit like this happened in the west.
>"Hey man, I heard you changed careers. What happened?"
>"Remember that cartoon I worked on a while back? Everyone hated the ending. They hated it so much that my name is mud in the cartoon industry and now I have to work at the fish market for a living if I want to survive."
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>>143144415
Sounds fucking great to me. They'd have more incentive to pay attention to what fans want.
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>>143144415
I wouldn't be surprised if something like that has happened in the comic industry with how worked up cape fans get. Pretty sure newspaper comic artists come under heat occasionally too. I know gary larson (The Farside) got into trouble multiple times.
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ERABE:

> 1. Traditional, safe, peaceful way of life, surrounded by nature and your loving local community, with a meaningful and transcendent mission as a miko, following the steps of your ancestors.

> 2. Degenerate, consumerist, empty "life" in a polluted concrete jungle, as another drone wageslave among millions.


Natsu. Did. Nothing. Wrong.
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>>143141612
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>>143144502
>anime does what fans do
>MUH PANDERING

>anime doesn't do what fans do
>(you)
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>143076708
>she was just broken, all that was missing was an ahegao.

I tried
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>>143137848
Evangelion if we're going by backlash.
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>>143144946
Whoops, meant
>>143076708
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>>143144946
WHY?
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https://soundcloud.com/akibatrash/you-dont-have-to-think-about-it
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>>143144646
Natsu, stop posting.

You're a bear.

A bear using the internet is just ridiculous.
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>>143145405
At least he's not driving.
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>>143138023
>Post ED scene is Machi reverted into a child-like mental state as she plays with Natsu. Happy and upbeat music is playing during all of this.
Except for how that's the way she has always behaved. People want to see something dark in here though so no matter how much they're told that they're wrong, they'll continue seeing what they want to see.
This is worse than the puppet theories in Yuyushiki or the it was all a dream in Nichibros, holy shit.
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>>143139498
pottery
the scriptwriter already planned this from the start isn't he
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Can we go back to the good old days of slight sexualizing and mild bullying?
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>>143145899
Sorry, Natsu. The normalfags won, Kumamiko threads are ruined forever.
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I still enjoyed most of the series and am kinda sad people are gonna turn on it from the last arc.
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>>143146000
All this stuff about the ending makes me want to pick it up.
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>>143145765
All this denial.
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>Asian Social drama about a girl with social Anxiety who lives with a bear in the country-side.
It was Bear-tastic.
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>>143146167
Not him, but you mean the denial from people who can't tell/refuse to accept that the whole ending scene was just a gag on her being "broken" from her experience? She'd probably ask to go back to the city in a week, only to have some shit happen again. Because that's what happens in a gag series. But no, it surely must be some deep, dark psychological case-study.
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>>143139220
More like:
>machi has a shitfit for 2 episodes
>doesn't even blunder much, just convinces herself shit's bad
>no jokes and shitty drama
>feels nothing like the rest of the show
It was a mess.
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>>143139147
>in fact, Natsu is delighted
I think you missed the part where Natsu is so afraid of losing Machi that he prays to the mountain gods to make her give up on that idea.
Well, she gave up and they're living happily now, the same way as they have always done.
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How could they have screwed up so badly? All we wanted was some hick miko and antropomorphized bear hijinks
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So, are there any good doujins?
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this is sad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDQoHhSzbt0
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>>143137386
>Wherever I go, I must rape
t. Yoshio
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>>143146000
People turned on the anime, the manga is still good.
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>>143140292
>where the protagonist realizes that his goals are futile and ends up starting right back at square one. This isn't one of them.
But that's exactly what happened. Machi continued having panic attacks even after managing to do what she set out to, realized that being stubborn with her goals was futile, and decided to continue living with Natsu. I can see the manga ending in a similar way.
>>143140527
What the fuck.
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>>143146722
It just gets more disturbing and depraved with every watch.
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>>143134194
Surprisingly, Yoshio was the best character.
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>>143147069
Fuck off Hibiki
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>>143146722

Jesus Fuck, she has regressed tot he mental age of a toddler
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>>143146722
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>>143146722
>>143146987
I know, right? Seeing Machi not understand things she's unfamiliar with is depressing.
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>>143146722
>She's even talking in a more childish voice than normal

This is just creepy. Playing the upbeat ED just make it feel even worse.
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>>143146722
She wasn't this retarded normally, why do people deny it?
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>>143147130
She knows what the internet and tablets are though. She's just terrified of using them herself.

Here she thinks the internet is the name of a delivery man and a tablet is a food.
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>>143146987
>>143147114
>>143147222
>>143147256

See >>143146428

Are you guys just being dense on purpose?
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>>143146722
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>>143147354
Will you ever stop shitposting autism-kun?
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Yeah, how dare they adapt two pages from the manga as a way to show that Machi and Natsu are back to their usual lives.
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No one has clearly explained exactly why the ending was bad yet.
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I mean, fuck them.
>>143147414
So the answer is yes it seems.
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>>143147428
The dialogue is completely different, retard. Learn nip.
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>>143147442
The nips hate it, so it must be bad.
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>>143147414
Maybe, perhaps once you retards stop acting like this is some sort of Shakespearean tragedy.
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>>143147354
Because this is how the anime ended. No follow up scene. No continuation. Just crying broken machi followed by her acting like a five year old. They obviously intended it as a gag but they fucked up and it comes off as disturbing instead. And that's how they chose to end the anime. With a retarded and broken Machi.
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>>143147428
She doesn't say a tablet is a fucking candy here, though.
It's alright to her to not know what Amazon is because she didn't use it previously in the series.
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>>143147442
It wasn't funny and dragged on.
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>>143147478
>Bought cake from Amazon
>Cake what? Cake Amazon what?
>It's an internet shopping site Machi
>Saitou?
>Internet Saitou is amazing! He came all the way from Brazil!
>Fuck you this is too much kanji!
>Yeah Brazil! Japan!
>You don't need to worry, Machi!
>Translation by mini-duwang. ABOJ
They just removed the Amazon part, maybe they couldn't get the rights for it.
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>>143147428
>>143147466
>Taking the manga pages completely out of context.
>Implying the dialogue is the same or similar

People are still trying to use these images to shitpost?
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>>143147616
Why is Natsu ordering a cake from Brazil?
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>>143147627
Well, the Internet Saitou gag is still there.
That was the only funny joke this episode so it being taken straight out of the manga doesn't give the writer any credit.
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>>143147627
>disagreeing with the opinion of the majority is shitposting
Great, you're learning! You even ignored the entirety of what was posted to the side of the image.
Yes, the circumstances are different (nightmare vs. reality), but the point is that those pages were adapted as a way to show their usual lives after the whole situation.
>>143147689
Machi how did you get in here
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>>143140179
ANN hated it because they pander to normalfags and whatever Funimation tells them they have to hype.
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>>143147442
It was explained most accurately several times in the first thread, and it can't be helped any more than seeing it for yourself - that is, whether it's the elaboration, or looking at the original events from the manga itself.

To iterate again, the main point of the problem is that the context of the ending is broken. It uses the same points A and Z, but everything through the middle is completely altered.
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They should've gone all-in on the mindbreak and had it actually be a dark ending instead of a "this was a poorly handled joke" ending.
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>>143147771
Did you want to see Machi back in diapers or something?
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>>143147734
Kumamiko is streamed by funi, though, shouldn't they be hyping it then?
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>>143147822

it's buzzwords shitposting, it doesn't have to make sense
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>>143147561
That's one opinion, it seemed pretty clear to me what they were going for. But fine, we'll say they executed the joke poorly. Somehow though that apparently means to a lot of people that this entire show was a shitty horror show, deserving of a 1/10 rating for not being "comfy". Doesn't make any sense at all.
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>>143147817
Yes.
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>>143147822
It's not a normalfag show so the best way to pander to normalfags is saying that the show is bad, happened the same with Pandora. On the other hand, shit that Funi is hyping all over always gets good reviews, like Boku no Hero Academia.
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>>143147889
Yeah, last few episodes being shitty leaves a bad aftertaste and makes an overall impression a lot worse, I don't see why that makes you so surprised.
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>>143148026
>happened the same with Pandora
I still understand why they hated it so much.
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>I'm not the one shitposting!
>It's everyone else in the thread shitposting!
>And previous threads.
>And every other site discussing it.
>And the mangaka.
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>>143148066
Autistic people often fail to realize that they're special
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>>143148066
So anyone who doesn't go along with the majority is a shitposter? Well fuck, what a depressing world we live in.
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>>143148043
Not really surprised that some people didn't like it as much, more surprised that there are so many people adamant to turn it into something it's not, and was never trying to be.
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>>143137295
>refused to check the script
>FOR ANIME ORIGINAL EPISODES
What the fuck did he expect, a surprise?
When will the god damn mangakas learn.
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>>143148334
If she wasn't looking at the scripts she probably didn't even realize they were doing anime original episodes.
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>>143137810
Tell that to my eunuch dog emptying his dead balls in every bitch in heat that gets nearby
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>late to the party
>just got to the shopping mall episode
>thinking that I had pretty good laughs and miko anxiety is cute
>come here and everything is flames
All I wanted was harmless laughs, come on.
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>>143148563
Most of it is still good, just the last couple episodes is a mess.
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>>143148563
Crappy anime original end that has Machi giving up on her dreams and losing all the progress she made.

Everyone is pissed.
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Okay, so normally I'd be okay with an ending where nothing changes, but Machi is literally fucking autistic. I mean, she needs serious help and guidance, and seeing them all just give up on her like that is pretty sad. It's completely fine to accept that she will never be a social butterfly and go back to the country, but she can at least not be afraid of cities anymore, or at least just improve how socially retarded she is. What bothered me the most though is how everybody was just fucking happy with that. Machi, in the end, was mentally underdeveloped and socially stunted and they all just laughed it off like "lol OH WELL" and that was it.

And even though Machi had a chance at social improvement, it also bothered me that NOT ONE SINGLE FUCKING PERSON actually wanted to help Machi. Natus didn't give a fuck either way, Hiiko just wanted to baby Machi, and fucking Yoshio! I agree that Machi should have done the competition, because even if it was painful, it would be good for her and help her out with her anxiety. But that fucking asshole Yoshio didn't even care about Machi, he just wanted her to suffer for his stupid fucking village. And in the end, she suffered AND she didn't improve as a person at all. In fact, she degraded as a person and became more stupid. Her anxiety was left untreated, she has not matured at all, and everyone just laughed it off like Machi's life is just one big fucking joke, including the poor girl herself.

Overall the show was 8/10 because I wanna fuk machi
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I'm glad I dropped this shit after a few episodes.
It was shit from the start. Probably the biggest disappointment this season, good thing Flying Witch and Sansha Sanyou made up for it.
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>>143148901
That's because nobody really needed to help her. Most of their lives were only for the village, so why would they care about helping a little girl overcome her social anxiety if she works perfectly well in there? That's also why Natsu didn't want to let her go.
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>>143148901
>NOT ONE SINGLE FUCKING PERSON actually wanted to help Machi
Other idol girls cheered for her, too bad she was too deep into her persecution delusions to realize that.
That's what pissed me about that arc the most, everyone in the city was nice to her and she didn't even embarrass herself much and she's got a "trauma" over absolutely nothing.

In previous episodes genuinely embarrassing shit happened to her and it wasn't enough to discourage her from trying.
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>>143138023
I don't see how this ending is bad.
It sounds a lot better than how the manga went.
Very creepy stuff.
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>>143149245
It's not purposefully creepy or have any kind of commentary in it, though, it just comes off as unsettling accidentally, because of how clumsy and tone deaf it's handled.
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>>143149346
I guess I would have to expend the effort to actually watch it then.
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>>143149227
>Machi could have become friends with these qts
Damn you cute dumb miko.
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>>143149149
>nobody really needed to help her
I'd say her own brother should care about her a little more, actually. I thought that he cared about Machi deep down, but since that ending, he came of as kind of a weirdo.
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>>143149390
>Brother

You talking about Natsu or Yoshio? Because if you meant Yoshio then he's her cousin.
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>>143149470
Shieeet, really? Still though, he's pretty cold to her for a family member.
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I'm 100% glad I put off watching this series and lurked the occasional thread, like I do with most seasonal shows.
Now, when I get to the ending, I'll understand the context, how it was adapted from the source material, and how some of the story may have been corrupted by the adaptation.

Once again, the batch-fag reaps the benefits of both hindsight and source-fag insights.
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>>143149390
I don't know what would make you think he ever cared about her. Yoshio's borderline sociopathic towards Machi.
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>>143149615
>Yoshio's borderline sociopathic towards Machi.
Towards everyone
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>>143149615
>Yoshio's borderline sociopathic

And most anime characters are, but they have some sort of caring side that they show every now and then. I was expecting Yoshio to show his eventually, it just surprised me that he didn't even have one in the first place.
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>>143149613
Then again, being retroactively mad is not as fun.
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>>143149708
In the manga, the mall freakout over her clothes came before the shopping trip with Hibiki. Yoshio asks Hibiki to take Machi clothes shopping because of this after seeing how upset she was.

The anime swapped these events and removed that motivation for the shopping trip.
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I can accept the ending being a poorly formatted joke but I was more annoyed at Yoshio's whole "sacrifice" justification.
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>>143141950
Because framing is important and with all the intentional hentai doujin undertone gags it's hard not to think that they weren't trying to fit in the mindbreak tag at the end. They could have changed any number of little things at the end to avoid it but "somehow" nobody on staff working on the final scenes saw that the whole thing ended on a bleak note. That's why nearly everyone people who saw it took it as a really sick joke to end the show on.
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>>143150000
He only cares about the village while being extremely dense and unable to care about anyone's feelings. Maybe the bear drugs up in the village did damage to more people than just Machi.
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>>143150000
Yeah, that's where he went from comically dense to pure psycho.
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MK-ULTRA victim end. Yoshio was actually her handler. Very sad stuff.
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How the fuck did this become the controversial show of the season?
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>>143150178
She's in her happy place now.
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As someone who didn't watch this can someone explain what the hell happened and why everyone is so mad? Did they go for an anime original end? Thanks.
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>>143150246
Nevermind sorry it was already explained earlier.
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>>143150178
People can act in unreasonable ways when their expectations get broken.
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>>143150333
The only thing that is broken now is Machi herself
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>>143150407
I would break Machi with my dick.
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>>143150055
They could have pulled that off if they started to deviate to a darker tone halfway through the season, there's plenty of people who love that shit.
Doing this on the last episode is a joke with terrible timing.
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>>143150421
There's nothing left for your to break, I'm afraid.
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>>143150456
But they kind of did, actually. The second half had much more bullying than the first, as well as all the social anxiety thing.
But even with that, there was absolutely nothing dark in here. Machi just realized how much of a retard she is and went back to where she belongs.
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>>143150559
>absolutely nothing dark in here
Anon, if you're expecting sunshine even the dusk is too dark.
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>>143134194
I can't help but feel for Yoshio. He's a good guy inside and only wants what's best for his village, but he's as dense as gold.
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>>143150711
Hibiki..
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>>143150761
Is a generic tsundere, saved from obscurity purely by the fact that she's a delinquent
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>>143150178
Normalfags.
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>>143150559
The episode where they introduce hibiki and she literally beats up Machi and Machi goes full survival mode was darker. Anons were complaining full on by then, and thats when i figured that this wouldn't end well.
They went just a little too far for some.
Me, I accepted Machi was a dumb cunt from the start so this was obvious to me. It was all of you who wanted to believe that she could grow and learn as a person somehow when she can't even use a rice cooker.
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>>143150841
Are 2chan toshiakis complaining also normalfags?
Or the fucking mangaka?
Stop trying to paint the issue as some oversensitive normalfag nitpick.
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>>143151289
Gee I didn't know the mangaka complained I guess he must be an idiot
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>>143151289
Hook, line and sinker.
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>>143146722
>tfw no mentally broken 14yo miko acting like a child
Kill me and wake me up in the kuma miko anime universe.
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>>143151289
>Are 2chan toshiakis complaining also normalfags
pretty much.
Seeing BBS in manga is normie fare nowadays.
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ASPD checklist Yoshio:
>failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest
Sexual harrassment and bullying the miko
>deception, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure
Tricking the miko for his revitalizing the village, his main project
>impulsivity or failure to plan ahead
Registering Machi as a idol despite her obvious disinterest
>irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults
Forces himself on Machi when she does not want to take part in one of his plans
>reckless disregard for safety of self or others
Uses Machi despite her obvious social anxiety and panic attacks
>consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations
He is pretty responsible.
>lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another
His speech about sacrificing the miko should be enough proof of this.
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>>143146476
>It was a mess.
this is the only thing you posted correctly


The reason why the end sucked was because Machi apparently overcomes some massive social angsiety issues for all of 4 minutes durring her performance at the idol contest. Its a mother fucking breakthrough, followed by a complete colapse, like epic colapse

she's convinced people were trying to stone her, even though she received an award, and they were applauding. Yoshio and the fucking bear were watching the VIDEO of her performance while she was hyperventilating about the ending, they're right fucking there with the fucking ipad, all they have to do is turn it around to show the poor girl that people enjoyed it.

and instead yoshio is too fucking dense to realize what the fuck her problem is and the bear is too thrilled at her trauma and never wanting to leave the mountain again, since it's what he wants, fuck machi's mental issues right?

THEN they fucking sell this as a happy ending, with machi "happy" about the fact she's given up and never leaving the mountain again.
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>>143151913
Shit man, this gets more brutal every time someone says it.
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>>143151913
I don't think it was supposed to be a happy ending


Kuma Miko is the Evangelion of SoL
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>>143151913
>Machi apparently overcomes some massive social angsiety issues for all of 4 minutes durring her performance at the idol contest
By hearing Natsu's voice, and forgetting exactly where she is. Then when people start applauding she remembers the situation she's in and breaks down again.
>fuck machi's mental issues right?
I think that's one of the points as well. Even if she's a happy retard, as long as she's happy, then who cares? Why are you trying to solve the problems of people who don't want their problems solved?
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>>143144797
Fans want them to follow the source material.

How is that so hard to understand?
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>>143152161
She didnt overcome her anxiety, she went into a trance after hearing Natsu. I thought this was made pretty clear.
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>>143151913
pretty painful show desu senpai
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>>143152161
>Why are you trying to solve the problems of people who don't want their problems solved?
Her only problem here is that she imagined that people hated her. It could be solved instantly.
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>>143152260
Yeah I think most people watching missed that part. Natsu is pretty much her family so its not so much fear of the city as fear of being away from him.
All she needs to do is join the circus and do shows with him.
They will make millions.
But nooooo
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>>143152246
To be fair, the source material is boring as shit. At least done this way it's a bit more interesting.
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>>143152161
>Even if she's a happy retard, as long as she's happy, then who cares? Why are you trying to solve the problems of people who don't want their problems solved?
>Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of her nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. She had won the victory over herself. She loved Kumade village.
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>>143152348
Yeah, interesting enough for them to ruin any future prospects they may have in the industry.

Smart guys.
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>>143152260
Exactly. And then when it went away she went back to being dumb.
>>143152322
I wish it could have been solved easily too, but if she broke down immediately after performing and had more hallucinations then it clearly was a difficult problem to solve. But just as Natsu said, she doesn't need to worry about all that, since she's just the cute miko in an isolated village.
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>>143152246
Not him, but apart from not showing a new episode/chapter where she's fine, engaging in new hi-jinks where she struggles with issues, the anime followed the source material exactly. They even include the internet site joke at the end, and Natsu telling Machi not too worry about it. It was all one big gag, which should have been obvious when the music started playing. Because that's what happens in the manga, it's a gag manga. There are some slightly mean spirited jokes, but Machi always is fine, and goes on to get into more situations.
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>>143152322
I don't know man. She doesn't seem to accept reality easily, remember her freaking out in front of the store and selling the mushrooms?
She needs therapy.
>>143152370
They will have long careers in hentai at least.
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>>143152370
The manga isn't even that popular anyway, this whole overly exaggerated "scandal" (if you can call a vocal minority of shitposters complaining on 2ch a scandal) will blow over in a week or two.
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>>143152454
>goes on to get into more situations
The list:
>rice cooker nearly burns down house
>can't play dragon quest without having a panic attack
>bullied by everyone
>her 'friends' are children
>can't use anything more complex than an axe
>her bear friend is smarter than her at nearly everything
>only good at chopping wood and dancing
>can apparently summon storms with dancing to the wrong music too

Isn't she practically disabled?
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>>143152586
>practically

You mean utterly and completely.
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>>143152750
onaka suita
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>All Kumamiko-chan 4-koma segments take place after the mindbreak.
>Machi will spend the rest of her days saying 'I'm Hungry' despite always eating
>Everyone including the talking bear is oblivious to the fact that this is a cry for help
>"My soul is hungry"
>"Nothing fills the void"
>"Give me something"
>"Anything"
Onaka suita
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>>143152750
>machi-chan is just post-mindbreak machi
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Unable to idol even though she wishes for it, Machi eventually stops thinking.
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>>143152449
>But just as Natsu said, she doesn't need to worry about all that
Instead of that bullshit Natsu could have said that people actually cheered on her and that she doesn't have a reason to freak out.
But looks like they really wanted to show Natsu as a selfish cunt in the show.

>>143152482
You wouldn't solve the anxiety, but that fucking persecution hallucination is pretty fucking easy to solve.
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>>143152890
He lived his entire life by her side, so it makes sense.
Remember that in the end, he's just a bear.
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>>143146722
lmao this is great, just a happy little miko having fun. best ending. anyone who disagrees is a tumblr reddit slut cuck
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Jesus Christ
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>>143152852

>unable to fill her soul.
>Machi settles for a long nap
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Was going to drop.
Was won over by loli possession scene.
.
.
.
Should have dropped!

We were betrayed!
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On most shows, we are sad we won't see anything else adapted with Kumamiko we are just relieved her suffering finally ended
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You know what really makes me mad about this ending ?

I have crippling social anxiety, but I don't have a comfy talking bear to cuddle with and solve all my problems so I don't have to think about difficult things anymore.

It's depressing seeing Machi so mindbroken because I want to be the retarded miko.
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The BD box OVAs are anime originals too, right?
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>>143153519
Wow.
I didn't think we would got this far...
but its too late now. Abandon thread everyone. This shit just got DARK
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>>143153519
>talking bear to solve all your problems

You mean a talking bear to deliberately try to scare you, push you into the real world too quickly, knowingly damage your social abilities, and fundamentally fuck over your mental foundation all so you have someone to talk to?
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Somehow I missed episode 8
What the fuck
That wasn't hick miko spaghetti dropping, that was watching a fish suffocate out of water
Holy shit
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>>143148901
>Machi is literally fucking autistic
You literally don't know what autism is. She has severe social anxiety.
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>>143153628
Not to mention play with a fucking tablet while you are crying and screaming for him to come protect you from a bully then see you off with a smile when she wants to take you 'shopping'.
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after the 1st Hibiki episode we should have known the ride wasn't going to end well but all warning signs were ignored
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>>143150711
Fuck Yoshio
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I haven't seen the final ep yet, what am I in for and is it that bad?
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>>143153781
But Hibiki is actually a good girl, and they had fun shopping.
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>>143153873
Machi gives up. This betrayed the expectations of everyone so they're calling show the darkest thing in the world now.
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>>143153873
A horrible ending, yes.
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>>143153873
It's fucking awful we all thought we would get a happy disney ending where she miraculously overcomes her social anxiety but instead she panics infront of hundreds of people and does not overcome here crippling disorder. How fucking stupid is that? Why would we want a realistic ending that hits us in the feels am I right?
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>>143153873
It isn't bad. Basically Machi performs her dance well and helps promote the village. She then discovers that city life isnt for her after experiencing it first-hand and decides to live in the village where she is happiest.
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>>143153873
You ruined everything by asking.
>>143153996
No ones specifically mad about it not being happy, its just that they are now mad because it just skirted the issue entirely.
Then again the whole show did. The thing near the end with the loli convincing her to get back up on stage ruined everything and was anime original
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>>143153996
>>143153960
>>143153928
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>>143153873
Read the fucking thread you nigger. This same question has been answered in detail like 20 times already.
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>>143153997
>decides to live in the village where she is happiest
>ep1, major conflict is that she wants to go to school in the city
>ep12, no, the city is scary
CONFLICT RESOLVED ANON
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Wow this show seems to have become very popular over the last few days from all the threads I've seen on /a/.

Should I pick it up? What is with all this about the last episode, can I get a tl;dr?
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>>143154153
Suck it.
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>>143154153
The tl;dr is that some people have autism. This causes them to sperg out.
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Who won? Special award not included.
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>>143154102
She wanted to go the school in the city without any experience of what that whole experience would entail. Once she actually got a taste of what it is actually like being around a ton of unfamiliar faces (which for a small town girl as herself would be overwhelming) she makes a decision based on her own experience to stay where she is happiest which was shown in the ending.
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>>143154220
Being from a small town has nothing to do with it, it is here anxiety that fucked her over.
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>>143153519
I can be your kuma if you want to be my miko. People tell me all the time that I look like a bear.
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>>143154153
Yoshio gives in to his desires and brutally rapes Machi. People somehow didn't expect this, so they're calling the show terrible now.
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>>143154220
She also decided to forget how the internet worked.
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>>143154153
It turns out that Natsu was the miko all along.
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>>143154253
she didn't have any anxiety when regularly dealing with the people she was familiar with in her town, unless she was forced to wear some strange outfit or deal with random unknown people in a supermarket away from her village.

she functioned perfectly fine with her own community
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>>143154366
She knew about Skype, but did anyone ever tell her about sites? There's also the whole Amazon bit that got lost in the adaptation.
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>>143154366
she never knew how it worked in the first place.
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>>143154383
Because she has known those people all of her life not because they live in the same town as she does.
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This show has made me want to wear a miko outfit. I don't think I would look good in it though
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>>143154448
Don't give in anon. We all know what happens to those types, they all become literal faggots in the end.
You need to be a cute anime girl to qualify and that isn't reality. I had a dream of getting rich and hiring underage maids. Then I realized they would all be whores. Its not good if its not anime anon.
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>>143154445
exactly. so if she has all that she needs to function well in a community and as long as she is contributing to that said community what is the point in her leaving her happy village life to be terrified and miserable in the city?
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>>143154536
personal growth and fulfillment of her dreams anon
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Well next we're going to find out the first volume sales of a lot of shows, Kuma Miko included.

I wonder what's going to happen.
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Alright faggots, let's do this.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10550656
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>>143154553
she discovered that her imaginings of the city were just fantasies and once exposed to the reality she made a decision to stick with her happiness.

it was a happy ending
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Hypothetical situation anon: Machi can only overcome her anxiety if you have steamy hot sex with here, do you do it?
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>>143154698
What's the catch?
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>>143154683
You need more options. The show sucked but the ending was good for what it was.
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>>143154746
That's an option
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>>143154698
>want to fuck Machi
>but don't want her to get healed
That's a tough decision
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>>143154723
You need to have sex with a 14 year old girl which is not a socially acceptable thing to do.
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>>143154786
Worth it.
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>>143154696
I'm just wondering how she even got the fantasies when she can't even turn on a tv.
>>143154786
You've got to try harder anon.
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>>143154683
The captcha bullied me with an endless stream of store fronts. I can't do this.
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There is literally nothing wrong with Machi
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>>143154841
It's wrong that my penis isn't inside that body
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>>143154809
Magazines.

And we all know how true-to-life magazines are
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>>143154786
>You need to have sex with a 14 year old girl which is not a socially acceptable thing to do.
Oh anon, you silly person.
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>>143154829
Need a hand?
>select store fronts
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I fucking hate this ending I think it pretty much promotes less bestiality doujins and more generic city gangrape as well as village cumdump doujins.

Natsu is such a fucboi.
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>>143154723
You have to pleasure Yoshio
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>>143155107
After defeating Hiiko
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>>143154786
It's in the middle of nowhere and the rest of the village already wants to. The real catch is you have to hope the bear doesn't find out.
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>>143139676
You have some statement from the production committee to back this up?
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You fail to understand, anons. This show had two paths it could follow: it could be the cute little show of the year and be forgotten in 6 months, or it could go fucking crazy and live in infamy forever.

If it had opted for the former, it'd end up exactly like kokkuri san
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>>143155609
At least Kokkuri-san sold well, its final episode not slammed by the mangaka, and didn't have one of its scripwriter have to delete most of social media accounts.
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>>143155609
Or it could have ended up something like Ichigo Mashimaro and still gets talked about from time to time more than a decade later for doing comfy SOL so well.
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>>143155684
>one of its scripwriter have to delete most of social media accounts
This is ridiculous. They didn't even do a bad job.
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>>143155609
I'd rather have a cute forgotten show that people remember with fondness every so often than a show that gets easily misunderstood and can never be brought up again without starting shitstorms. Even though I didn't see any issue in the ending, most people did and they're the ones with a voice. RIP sexual fatty retard miko.
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>>143155609
Ah yes. Of course. To be remembered forever and be put in the same boat as Kannagi's slut Nagi arc, The Sacred Blacksmith's NTR shtick, Yumekui Merry's final arc, Gakkou Gurashi's TORAMAROU MY SHIT UP, and Aquarion EVOL's everything.

OH HOW NICE IT MUST BE TO BE REMEMBERED FOREVER FOR FUCKING UP
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>>143155788
If even the mangaka says that it was horrible then you bet your ass someone is getting shafted in the staff.
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>>143155859
Come on, now; only 11995 years to go
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>>143155788
Yeah, he did a good job of turning every character into a nutcase
>Machi is a hallucinating schizo
>Natsu is a possesive cunt
>Yoshio is an abusive sociopath
>Hibiki is so infatuated with Yoshio she thinks his sociopathy is cool
Great way to adapt gag inaka manga, 100% agree, them hicks be crazy.
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>>14315589
They didn't say it was horrible, they said they left it up to the staff, but didn't really get the ending, or something to that effect.
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>>143153233
Is this Futaba? How do you view it like this?
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>>143156109
They have their own catalog as well lad.
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>>143155859
None of those were as bad as you make it up to be. I sincerely wonder how you lose your temper and sanity over watching anime.
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>>143156249
>None of those were as bad as you make it up to be
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>143153233
Holy they're at 4.5k?

God damn amazing.
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>>143155859
>Gakkou Gurashi's TORAMAROU MY SHIT UP

Oh man, I had forgotten about that trainwreck.
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>>143156109

http://may.2chan.net/b/futaba.php?mode=cat
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>>143156477

catalog for ants?
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>>143156557
Tiny catalog for tiny eyes
Makes sense I guess
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>>143156557
Haha faggot.
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I'm not even as mad as I am about the ending as I am that I feel like I wasted my time by watching the series for that fucking ending.
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>>143137295

I bet the author is wishing he checked that script, eh.
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