Can a guy like shoujo anime and manga?

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You're a faggot if you don't.

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Not all shoujo is super gay.

>>143119418
don't be stupid

>>143119418
Real men read shojo

>>143119418
every guy should watch/read at least one shoujo

My favourite manga is Shoujo, so yes.

Shoujo sometimes has better romance story than Shonen, so yes, they can just like the girls.

>>143119976
A real man should at least watch/read at least one of every genre. This includes Yaoi and Bara.

>>143120013
You say it like that's some sort of accomplishment

>>143120013
>Not fawning over Usui.
What are you, a faggot?

>>143119418
I'd say about 1 out of 100 shoujo mangas are worth a read, but the rest of them end up being Fujoshit and over-saturated pages of roses and sparkly shit.

Ore monogatori was decent, and iirc Horimiya is shoujo as well. There's a few others i've read that i'm missing.

Only if he likes love triangles. I hate them so I'm fucked

>>143120013
>Shoujo sometimes has better romance story than Shonen
Not surprising considering Shoujo is more romance oriented.
Romance in shounen tend to be just so that the MC has a girl, and these days it mostly come down to harems.

Shoujo tends to be rather stupid, but when they nail down the romance it's really nice.

>>143119418
If you haven't seen Utena, you don't belong on /a/.

>>143119418
This looks like yaoi senpai

>>143120342
Shoujo don't oversexualize their females

Taiyou no Ie is one of my favorite manga and it's about as shoujo as you can get.
I think in general good shoujo manga are quite well received on /a/.

>>143119418
I prefer the journey (shonen) to the mutual relationship, but the MC always picks worst girl anyway, so I lose regardless

>>143120421
That is no excuse for manshoulders

>>143119418
Only if he's a faggot

>>143120421
Maybe, but shoujo females tend to be hopeless, whereas in modern shounen manga female characters tend to be rather cool - plenty of times cooler than the useless MCs.

>>143120485
I think in general no one on /a/ pays attention to good or bad shoujo manga.

>>143120560
You mean provide fap bait?

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>>143119418

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>>143119418
Mahou shoujo can be good, but regular shoujo is always nothing but a cringeworthy collection of generic clichés, self-insert main girls blushing at anything and everything the bad boy love interest says, lolrandumxD chibi faces, MISUNDERSTANDINGS and forced drama.

Power!! is pretty much the only example I've seen of a shoujo manga that actually has some entertainment value other than shitty romance for little girls to squee over.

>>143121020
>mahou shoujo vs "regular shoujo"
What? You sound like you have fucking no idea what you're talking about.

>>143121150
Nah, you're just a faggot trying too hard to fit in.

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>>143121020
>Power!! is pretty much the only example I've seen of a shoujo manga that actually has some entertainment value other than shitty romance for little girls to squee over.
Then you haven't read or watched this.

Nothing wrong some decent romance. If it has one. I've enjoyed a few that do. But the MC in some ridiculous situation and potential love interests with stupidly exaggerated traits isn't exclusive to things written for guys.

What I dislike about a lot of shoujo are rather consistent aspects I see in the art. Flat drawings, huge focus on characters, crappy backgrounds, bubbles everywhere, and tremendous screentone usage.

>>143121020
Are you an edgelord?

>>143119418
You can but at least try to read some actual good titles instead garbage like this.

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>>143121150
>implying Sailor Moon/CCS and shit like Kodocha/Kamisama Hajimemashita are the same
They're for the same demographic and have some shared aspects, but mahou shoujo are much more entertaining for all audiences since they tend to have a plot that goes beyond revolving around generic relationship drama.

>>143121416
No, I just need more than bubbles, chibis and blushes to be entertained.

Also orange thread

>>143121541

on air on 3/7

>>143121328
josei

>>143121406
I actually really like the bubbles. It can go well with the more cluttered paneling/layout approach that a lot of shoujo and josei take.

>>143121488
Apparently you never received basic fiction training, so I'll inform you that those are what are known as different genres, and that there are a lot more than two of them. Or are you about to tell me that Kodocha and Basara are the same because they're both shoujo but not mahou shoujo?

>>143119418
Of course not. What are you, gay? The only non-degenerate genre for guys to read is BL.

>>143121614
It's actually not, that's a misconception because certain third-party sites made a mistake about the magazine's demographic for a long time. You can check the publisher's website, they clearly mark Cookie as a shoujo magazine.

>>143121617
>those are what are known as different genres
Yeah, that happens to be what I said. Keep being a butthurt contrarian because people don't like your generic self-insert shoujo, though.

>>143121488
Did you just try to claim that all shoujo is either romcom or mahou shoujo?

==/ OFFICIAL HOLY TRINITY OF SHOUJO /==

VERSAILLES NO BARA

KARE KANO

ORANGE

>>143121565
Why is this manga highly praised?

>>143120013
>>143120262
It's honestly a mixed bag for me. Shoujo has the benefit of actually being focused on romance, but that often leads to the author pulling out seriously stupid drama bullshit ranging from MISUNDERSTANDINGS to the plot becoming a near reverse harem as multiple guys fall for the MC.

Shonen of course appears to be at a disadvantage because it's not focused on the romance, but that oftentimes sweeps away the annoying drama that comes along with it. A well done shonen romance is a wonderful thing to behold.

But yeah, the majority of times it's just some one-personality girl for the MC to hook up with.

>>143120485
I was reading this and enjoying it, but then the female lead just kept getting more and more annoying about moving out and not confessing to the guy for nothing more than drama.

Then the brother was revealed to have a crush on her too and that crossed the line. Dropped. Why does EVERY GUY in the manga have a fucking crush on this girl. I don't watch haremshit and I'm sure not going to read reverse haremshit.

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It got less gay as it went on but I really just loved it for its music and atmosphere. 10/10 audiovisual stimulation

>>143122038
Did you just get butthurt at the truth and make an ass out of yourself? Yes, yes you did.

>>143122164
I don't think this was aimed at a shoujo audience.

>>143122111

Shonen romance isnt as bad as Shoujo but I guess its demographics as men are totally fine with the male protagonist to "consider his options" as Shoujo "part time Sempai" comes across as cheating.

Then again, Shoujo really have some abusive relationships, like Hot Gimmick but then again, its not like thats a Japan only thing, western novels are fulled of that type of behavior anyway.

>>143119418
If it's a good one, yeah

>>143122441
Fuck, that Fifty Shades of Gray schlock some years back was literally nothing but some weird hot guy abusing his lover and females everywhere masturbated themselves dry to that shit.

>>143122075

>Orange

That's a pretty shitty one

>>143119418
The only thing I dislike more than harems are reverse harems

I find it difficult to empathize with the characters when they're constantly making poor decisions and revealing themselves as awful people

someone recommend me some good shoujo, and tell me why it's good

>>143122964
No. There are entire sites dedicated to cataloguing manga by its genre and content tags, fucking use them or else go to /wsr/.

>>143122441
I dislike how Shoujo tends to portray the guy as flawless alphas.

>>143119976
What about your dad?

>Seinen
>Romance

There you go. As always results may vary but this combination is almost always better than shoujo.

>>143123370
90% of the time that'll get you either haremshit or some random thing that happens to have a minor romantic subplot.

>>143123370
As long as its not forced

Is there any shoujo with cute romance and comedy like Nozaki-kun or Oresama Teacher?

I do

>>143124315
Or comfy shoujo like Nukoduke!

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Sure

But you can't like Shonen.

>>143124373
I haven't seen/read this, but I thought this guy was a big Adachifag?

>>143119418

Maybe, but shoujo, moreso than shounen, mostly because they are based on relationship, adds unnecessary drama in order to have a plot to the manga.

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The only shojo I can ever stomach

mostly because the MC isn't some whiny pussy bitch

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>>143124412
He is. He comments on how brilliant the man is in making a series with both Shonen and Shojo elements.

>>143124494
How often is the MC in shoujo a whiny pussy? The big cliche is muh strong brash girl who goes against the popular clique.

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>>143119418
Only if the MC like Momoka.

>>143124554

How could the readers self-insert if the MC actually was an interesting and well-made character?

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>>143119418
Liking shoujo is fine. Unironically thinking Maid-sama is a good manga/anime on the other hand..

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>>143124494
Goals.

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>one of the best written Shoujo with well collaborated plot
>semi-complex story telling similar to Tri-gun
>elaborated world- building
A reminder that Immortal Rain should have had its own anime.

>>143120856
Yeeeeeeah

>>143124671

It was pretty decent, but towards the end everything kind of spiraled out of control and I didn't even understand what was going on.

Feels like the author had big ideas but couldn't flesh them out properly by the end of the manga.

>>143124494
Haru was kind of really fucking insane and resulted to violence when he got jealous even a tiny bit, though.

Yamaguchi was best boy, anyways. Haru a shit.

>>143124926
The overall story which is Rain and the immortal's conflict came to a straight end, but the origin is somewhat left unknown.
But yeah I think it is either that, or the author meant to conclude that detail about ancient past and such as ambiguous since she only wanted to focus on Rain and Machika's adventure. I really enjoyed it, I wish it could have been longer and handled a bit heavier (even thought it's a shoujo )

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>>143119418
MAID-SAMA IS SHIT

SHIIIIIIT

>>143121328
Josei and in eternal hiatus

>>143122075
>Orange
For fuck's sakes Anon

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>>143122401
Who was it aimed at then?

I know tons of guys who watch sailor moon, so I think anything can appeal to shonen demographic if you put battles in it

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Yeah of course.

Sukitte il na yo but Shoujo's are so inconsistent, I loved Sukitte but two others I watched Ao Haru and Wolf Girl and Black Prince were complete fucking horse shit.

No. It's not allowed. The anime police will arrest you for liking things outside your demographic.

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Shoujo can be amazing. Like Yona or Natsume.

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>>143121020
>the only example I've seen of a shoujo manga that actually has some entertainment value other than shitty romance for little girls to squee over.

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Oh and it's not shoujo but josei, but 7 seeds is probably the best manga I've ever read.

>>143126262
It was shoujo for like five chapters, that's close enough.

>>143121020
>Having shit taste, complaining about his own shit taste.
Someone is compensating

>>143119418
Did they fuck?

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>>143120013
I like subtle romance a lot more than some overdramatic bullshit shoved into your face. Oremonogatari is probably the most I can handle.

I own and read the first volume of Shinshi Doumei Cross. MC was pretty enjoyable. Didn't read any further though.

>>143127128
They married. So yes?

Akagami no Shirayukihime gave me diabet

YES.
Guy who likes shoujo =10/10

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Good shoujo is better than good shonen, so yeah.

>>143122086
I get the impression it's the most well done of one of the schlockiest genre set-ups you'll find. So best of a bad bunch. But hey, what would I know?

I find the best shoujo usually have a male protagonist.

Fruits Basket is still #1 despite not having one though.

>>143120042
I've seen Super Lovers to fill the yaoi quota but I'm not actually gay so not sure if I could handle bara

>>143120421
No such thing m8

At least you didn't say objectify

>>143128241
This was shit, Yuki Kaori needs to fucking reign herself in.

Josei is the best demographic.

>>143122086
>>143128265
I liked it, but it wasn't amazing.
They took what could have been a very generic set up and made it work nicely.

>>143122155
>for nothing more than drama
It wasn't really for more drama. It ended up becoming a rather believable character arc for her and lead to a pretty good ending.

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>>143128271
This manga has baraservice but isn't porn.
It's by Gengoroh Tagame, famous for torture porn previously though.

>>143125487
Fujos.

I've been watching nothing but shoujo/josei shit for the last month, Golden Time, Chihayafuru, Kokoro Connect etc. Watched True Tears yesterday, the girls were great but the MC was quite bland unfortunately, Ai-chan best girl

>>143128299
Someone should introduce her to Oh!Great, I have a feeling they'd get along thanks to their mutual love of rape and not making sense.

>>143119418
There's a small number of good Shoujo manga that everyone really should read. Outside of that it's a waste of time.

>>143128445
Literally none of those are shoujo, and only one is josei. Learn what demographics are.

>>143128460
It sounds like you read a small number of shoujo and then didn't bother digging for more good ones.

>>143128472
Golden Time and Chihayafuru are Josei and Kokoro Connect is shoujo, is it not? I thought "shoujo" = aimed towards teenage girls and "josei" = aimed towards young women

>>143125553
But Sukitte is fucking shit.

>>143128540
Golden Time and Kokoro Connect are LNs, which don't have these demographics, and True Tears is an anime original, which is the same, so none of those could be josei/shoujo no matter what. It isn't determined by the content (not directly), it's determined by the magazine a manga runs in.

And anyway, all three of those are pretty clearly written with men in mind, I'd say.

>>143128540
Golden Time and Kokoro Connect are aimed at young men. The girls are designed to be appealing rather than relateable and the plot cues are different from shoujo.

True Tears similarly.

>>143128622
Oh, I did know that Shoujo/josei etc are magazine demographics (thanks to Bakuman) I just didn't know none of those were manga adaptation.

Way I'm thinking it, if best girl loses then it's not written with men in mind, so I can only accept Kokoro connect as non-shoujo

>>143119418

Only faggots do. There's a reason why it's called 'shoujo'.

>>143128639
Ok I'll give you Kokoro Connect but GT's girls were designed to be more than appealing, maybe not Koko but Linda was a very relatable best girl. I guess it's not shoujo if every female character wants to suck the MC's dick

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>>143119418
Some of it manages to have broad appeal outside it's demographic.
I thought vampire knight was decent, not enough to finish it however. Bare in mind I was 16 when I read it.

>>143128460
Read more.

>>143128460
This could be said for shounen as well.

>>143129665
For any genre really

>>143128455
Angel Sanctuary makes more sense when you know she's a big SMT fangirl, the plot is mostly based off Megami Tensei I.

It's only okay if you self-insert as the girl.

>>143124990
My nigga!

Yamaken was and is still the best boy of that series

>>143119418
If you like romance, it's slightly better and less autistic than your average shonen but at the same time comes with a lot of unnecessary drama and suffering.
It's decent if it's actually focuses on the girl and not just fujobait

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>>143123053
This completely. Their "flaws" are usually just them being too pushy or something incredibly minuscule but made into drama.

>>143129070
>not enough to finish it however
I actually used to read Shoujo Beat as a teen and it all kind of blends together. I've never finished a single series featured except for Meru Puri and I wish I hadn't.

I've been meaning to give Nana a try though, but it was too adult and boring for my action craving mind at the time.

>>143120042
Does Shounen Maid count as Yaoi? It was super gay. But I guess I already filled my quota with Pico.

>>143131209
Who doesn't?

>>143131209
I self-insert as the spectator.

>>143131839
Pico is shotacon porn though: not particularly aimd at female audiences/fujoshi like regular BL titles such as Super Lovers.

>>143119418
There's plenty of good SoL shoujo, and some romance that are really nice. There are also really shit melodramatic romance shoujo that look like stories you'd expect Okada to write.

On that note, does anyone know which category the 2 or 3 shoujo romance adaptations airing next season fall under? I haven't read the source material and I'm wondering if they're worth picking up.

>>143128374
I just read the synopsis. Is this going to be some shit like 5cm/s or Shigatsu, or is it going to actually be good? If it's just teenagers whining about relationship problems in the most overblown of ways, or being stupid on purpose to halt the plot, I'm not really interested.

>>143132378
The main plot isn't really romance, though there's a lot of it. The main male character commits suicide in the original timeline and the main girl sends a letter to teenage self to stop that from happening. As a side note if you expect the time traveling letter to be explained, you'll be disappointed.

There's a lot of stupidity that stems from "But if I change this event, the rest of what I know will be useless!" I can't remember much of it. I liked the manga a lot but my taste is pretty shit anyway. Can't compare to Shigatsu since I haven't seen it, but I don't like 5 cm/s. I think Orange was pretty successful in the emotional department, my heart was wrenched and tears were shed.

Watching/reading about cute girls who fall in love is the most manly thing you can do.

>>143120560
That's how they help their audience self-insert.
The MC is usually a useless piece of shit, in both shounen and shoujo.
Meanwhile the love interest is generally more capable (though often abusive).

>>143119418
Kimi ni Todoke is fucking GOAT

>>143126199
What is up with the fucking red hair trope though? I see it unusually often.

>>143121020
>projecting this hard

>>143129900
I think seinen and josei tend to have a better proportion of good series.

Meanwhile anything with an ecchi tag on it should be approached with caution.

>>143133002
I'm not a teenage LNfag so I don't think one time use magic as part of a premise needs 45 minutes of internal monolog to explain the super cool magic/science system, and worrying about the butterfly effect actually makes sense. As long as it doesn't feature drawn out misunderstandings and entire episodes dedicated to sulking over unrequited love, I'm sure I'll enjoy it enough. Thanks.

>>143133500
>sulking over unrequited love

Oh boy. You're in for a treat.

>>143126262
I agree that it's amazing at least.

>>143131839
Shounen Maid is not gay.

Quality aside, I like female-oriented romances better than actual male-oriented ones, because more often then not they're actual romances instead of sexual fanservice.
Stories that focus around different couples rather than magnet protagonist with lots of heroes/heroines orbiting around them are the best.
Stuff like Nozaki-kun is awesome

I like shoujo the best when there is changing perspectives between the female and male mcs. If it's just the girl the guy ends up feeling bland and overly perfect.

>>143133567
Oh fuck me. How much of that shit do I have to slog through? I thought it was mostly about saving a friend with some romance.

>>143133784
Best boy didn't win.

>>143128039
Shiraiyuki a cute
A CUTE

>>143133958
But how much of the story is him crying about it?

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Post more adventure shoujo

>>143134023
I'd rather not spoil from this point, and google is just there if you're curious

>>143134174
I don't want plot points spoiled, I just want to know how much time is spent on teenagers crying and sulking because that kind of melodrama is shit.

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>>143119418
They recently filled a void I didn't even know I had, so yes.

I like Taiyou no Ie because of the Dad NTR and Croquette. The main 'pair' sucks and the drama is shit.

>>143134215
He didn't involve himself in too much drama or became an edgelord though we know it hurts him to see the the girl he likes to never look his way.

Goddamn, I am still angry when I remember it.

>>143119418
I'm a guy and Fushigi Yuugi is one of my favorite anime.

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>>143134285
Also, this was lewder than any hentai I've seen.

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>>143134405
I might pick this up again.

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Any faggots here who read this?

It was my guilty pleasure

>>143134366
Well if he keeps his chin up and doesn't spend his screen time crying about it then I guess it's not a big deal.

>>143134405
I haven't watch season two yet. I think it's high time I started.

>>143119418
I like shoujo when the girl is like REALLY GREAT or when it's guy's POV e.g nijiiro days, also none of that yaoi crap

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Loved:

>Love So Life
>Taiyou no Ie
>Nijiiro Days (shit needs to remove S/M fag and bump Taizo and Chiba to main couple status)

Tried to like but failed:
>Hirunaka no Ryuusei

Wasted potential:
>Akagami

The stupid (second) Lyrias arc and the current one really sapped the momentum out of the story. I would have much rather see them navigate palace intrigues with Raji in tow.

Dropped Magus Bride.

>>143134556
Mattsun a best.
He and Spit girl is also the best couple

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>>143134215
>>143134479
The manga is only five volumes so it's not like you'll lose too much time if you try it anyway.

>>143123053
fucking this
They also portray them to be rich abusive assholes

>>143134613
I'll give the anime a shot. Since it's short, do you expect it all to get adapted?

>>143134633
>abusive assholes
I feel like there's a lot less of this in recent shoujo. Either that or I'm just lucky in what I pick since I haven't come across one in a while.

>>143134633
Or oblivious, emasculated faggots.

Is it too much to ask for a well-adjusted, nihilistic, witty and realistic MC for me to self-insert as ? Last Game's MC was pretty cool and I loved the university vibe.

>>143134691
Probably yeah, would be weird if they didn't considering it's finished and one-cour would be enough to adapt it.

>>143134771
>tfw it is ending soon

I fucking loved Yanagi's antics

>>143134718
Fantasy style shoujou like Shirayuki or Soredemo Sekai wa Utukushii usually have an actual plot and likable male lead that had a real relationship with the girl instead of NTR bait and misunderstandings. Those are the best.

>>143134807
Well the promise of not too much time spent on crying teens coupled with an actual ending is enough to hook me. I'm in.

>>143123370
Romance in seinen is almost always incredibly creepy.

Is the Inu x Boku SS anime worth watching or does the manga have more? I noticed it has a lot of good seiyuu in it.

I like shoujo. I have a shitload of raws, maybe I'll get around to translating some of them someday. Mostly Year 24-gumi stuff.

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Wada Shinji was a good man.

>>143134847
I wish Last Game dealt more with the side characters though. It felt slightly short to me.

That said, Seishun Kouryakuhon did more than most shoujo ever do with far less pages. I regard it a greater accomplishment than Akagami from the same author.

Just finished reading the latest Nijiiro Days raws and its damned comfy. Probably my favourite right now.

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I fucking love this manga.

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>>143119418
I like this old shoujo one.

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I really liked Ouran, it was one of the manga that made me looke for more shoujo stuff.

>>143136209
>Make reverse harem
>Make likable MC with an interesting personality/character
>Make the guys likable with interesting personalities/characters

>turns out amazing

Was it really so hard?

Also, all my niggas talking about Nijiiro days. Good stuff.

>>143131839
Shounen Maid was mostly just a SoL comedy with a bit of fujo/shota bait. Not really gay.

>>143133258
Bright red hair is a pretty simple visual shorthand for strength of character and dominance.

>>143135573
>That said, Seishun Kouryakuhon did more than most shoujo ever do with far less pages. I regard it a greater accomplishment than Akagami from the same author.
Oh shit, someone else who read that besides me. I wish there was more.

>>143135012
Author is dead. Start it only if you can live with never seeing the ending.

>>143134718
It's not just you, male tsunderes seems to be the new "it" trope for male leads.

>>143136209
I really liked the manga as well, the art is terrible for the first 5 books but then it's more similar to the anime.

I still don't understand why people don't like the ending though, people really think Ouran was just a "parody"? stuff like Tamaki's issues with his family were there since the start of the series. I agree with the drama about the twins but I thought it was short considering what other manga did with this kind of theme, and Haruhi was on point rejecting Hikaru, because she doesn't love him. She could have been beating around the bush but that didn't happen


Also, Tamaki was best boy.

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>>143137643
Not a shoujo, but the Tales series panders to fujos. And the male lead's partner is indeed a male tsundere.

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am i gay if i read and enjoyed this in highschool

Are there any Shojo like >>143124494 where its pretty comfy and the girl is pretty alpha?

If you read Peach Girl and don't get your jimmies rustled, you're no man.

>>143137740
Does Tamaki ever become less of a manchild? It works for the comedy, but I can never imagine them actually seriously getting together while he's like that.

>>143137963
nah ur just sensitive senpai

>>143137963
yea

>>143124373
Shonen and Shoujo are both my two most read and watched genres

eat a massive dick

even better is when a shonen acts like a shoujo

>>143133261
>projecting
That word doesn't mean what you think it means.

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>>143139458
It's part of his development to become less of a delusional manchild, but not becoming someone else entirely. So yes, he gets better. Also, Haruhi likes him that way, even though he annoys her sometimes he truly knows how to be nice and sensible.

>>143134932
You have some weird standards.

>>143119418
Yes

>>143119418
I don't know but I've yet to read a single Josei I haven't liked.

>>143134705
>>143132323
Both of you kill yourselves.

>Ctrl + F
>Mekakushi no Kuni (Land of the Blindfolded)
>0 results
Granted, I only knew of it through CMX's English volumes, but it had the right amount of supernatural ability speculation for my tastes.

>>143126262
Ango best boy

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>>143129070
>I thought Vampire Knight was decent
>didn't finish it

Never look back

>>143140765
>not Aramaki
Ango's a fucking nut.

>>143131547
>Shoujo Beat

Mein nigger

I ended up finishing Crimson Hero, Vampire Knight, and Honey and Clover. Vampire Knight went to shit. Crimson Hero was disappointing, and although I liked Honey and Clover's ending a lot of people were butthurt.

>>143133258
I've never hated a red-haired shoujo MC

Well, maybe Nakaba a little

>>143137963
Yeah

>>143134082
I'm reading Tenma no Ketsuzoku right now, and it's okay but a bit disappointing compared to Terra e. She seems to be trying a different style , and I don't think I like it as much.

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>>143140863
He just needs a hug

Aramaki deserves less suffering than he's in for.
>entire team dies
>live decades in isolation with dogs
>finally meet people
>find grill you like because mentally you're still a teenager
>grill kills dogs
>grill has boyfriend

>>143133695
I think the key to this is multipandering rather than lack of fanservice. If I recall correctly Nozaki is published on a webzine that features both shounen and shoujo and if shows. Haven't read Oresama Teacher, so I don't know if the author gave it more "shoujo" conventions or if it's as self-aware as Nozaki, but I heard it's good.

>>143141308
Nozaki's shounen, actually. It's just that Square Enix in general likes the multipandering thing and their publications run a lot of shounen with female appeal, e.g. Pandora Hearts and Black Butler.

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It seems like every other season I find myself watching a shoujo anime. Mostly because the humor doesn't feel all that stale to me.

>>143140765
You mean Arashi.

>>143142345
Middle of the pack at best

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This is the only one that I really enjoyed

>>143140765
What the hell? Has he even done a single fucking likable thing since they awoke?

>>143122155
A harem is for men to self insert as the male MC where all the girls fall for him

Whereas, in Shoujo it's for women to self insert as the female MC where all the guys fall for her.

>>143142757
He tried to help Natsu get stronger

>>143134405
Picked up.

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He deserves better

>>143135012
Sure. Just don't get confused when plot twist occurs.

I miss male oriented romances with multiple pairs. School Rumble and Hatsukoi Limited are up there for me.

I also miss slut characters.

>>143143558
I hope he finds love too.

>>143135573
>Last Game
>Seishun Koryakuhon
>Akagami when it is still not shit
>Nijiiro Days

Can I be your friend, anon?

>>143134847
I started raging when Yanagi was cockblocked to the point where he started doing it to himself

>>143144904
Yanagi is just pure and doesn't know what to do but there was no contest for the other guy as Mikoto is just damn oblivious

>>143144835
>it is still not shit
Does it become shit?

>>143144428
>I also miss slut characters.
Just go outside.

>>143145069
Sorry, shit is a strong word. It was good as it used to be, anon.

>>143145214
Wait, so is there a decline in quality or not, and does it have to do with that bullshit "You guys have to be apart now" thing I've heard about?

>>143135403
>It still isn't fully translated
God damn it.

>>143125487
Everyone. K is one of the definitive omnipandering shows.

>>143135403
This looks completely different from all the other art I've seen from him.

>>143145259
This guy explained it.

>>143134599

>>143119418
I guess, I read shoujos, shounen-ais and shit like that, if it is cute enough I will be reading.

>>143145513
It was done by a sci-fi novel illustrator named Noriyoshi Ohrai, he also made alternate covers for Eroica and MGS advertisements

>>143145819
Ah, that makes sense.

>>143145603
Oh well. Maybe it'll get good again, or just end on a positive note before it gets dragged out.

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>>143144428
>I also miss slut characters.
>tfw no series about cute sloots having stripper adventures

>>143126199
I'm just waiting for the day when Hak is in great danger and Yona goes fucking berserk

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>>143146528
>tfw no series about sluts going around breaking up vanilla partnerships

>>143137599
I'm pretty sure the manga finished before she died.

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What's our opinion on Patalliro? I've read it three times and 10/10 yo

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No
You're allowed to like:
Hokuto no ken
Berserk
Jojo's bizarre adventure
Or something aproximatively as manly

>>143147297
My opinion is that it's way too fucking long for me to pick up, given that it'll never be fully translated.

>>143147297
I read one or two volumes to see what it was about but it was too weird for me.

>>143119418
I'm not exactly sure, but I bet that a majority of the manga I've read are shoujo. There was definitely a period of time where I was reading a lot of different manga and most of it was shoujo.

>>143147326
Muh edge

Shojo has the best lolis.

>>143144835
Y-yes?

Since so many here have great taste, where are my Love So Life niggas?

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>>143148157
Little Mokuren is the cutest.

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>>143137963
This author is the fucking worst
>builds love triangle with some faggot and then a side character that gets good development with the MC
>turns out side characters has RAPE TENDENCIES
>but it's okay because the main character dies and the side character comes in to love the protagonist
and she's done it with every one of her published series

>>143119418
You fucked up if you read this or watched the anime and didn't self insert as Ayuzawa.

>>143134405
Too lewd! I kinda want to watch this now, but I don't know if my heart can take it.

>>143142742
I really liked this one as well. One of the few I read.
It had some needless drama, but overall was pretty great.
I felt a connection with this manga because I also didn't have a place where I belong for quite some time.

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I didn't read much shoujo but I played a fair bit of otome games... Am I still welcomed here?

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>>143150241
>Victor
actually, you belong in /blog/

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Currently reading pic related. It helps that the next volume just got scanned so it's actively being updated again.

>>143150367
Victor cried too much. I was more into Sholmes, yet he didn't have a route

>>143150548
Helsing was my type but that's mostly because I'm hard gay for Suwabe

C:R was a pleasant surprise overall. I don't usually like otome games, but it was a slow burner and not super fanservicey. More like a proper shoujo than a reverse-harem.

Is there anything like a shoujo anime recommendation chart out there? Doesn't seem to be anything on the wiki. Only really know the Dezaki / Ikuhara stuff, gotta delve into the deeper cuts some day.

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>>143150656
Van was great. You could hear the smug from a mile away... Sadly, he lost it halfway the route (which was great. I never heard Suwabe so distressed before)

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I love (hentai) Mahou Shoujo.

>>143150430
That would be nice

a new chapter got translated a few days ago.

>>143151287
What's happening here?

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I go through modes where I do nothing but binge shoujo's and then completely forget that I read them and end up reading them again in 6 months.


Pic related.

>>143124990
This. My dislike for Haru grew almost every single chapter. I didn't even mind the guy that much, but he got too out of control. Yamaken, on the other hand, grew on me and is definitely best boy.

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>>143119418
Who genuinely dislikes Natsume?

>>143148473
Reporting.
Matsunaga is a lucky bastard

>>143150430
Can the senpai be irrelevant already. Fuji is clearly the best

>>143135296
>Year 24
Yes, please do.

>>143153843
The only shoujo with an older man I could tolerate. Hirunaka no Ryuusei was insufferable, though the character designs were a favourite of mine.

>>143148473
>Aoi grasps that they won't see eachother much anymore
>Akane doesn't

This is bad news

i recommend this every thread, but if you want a simple feel good shoujo, try koukou debut.

>>143150367
/blog/ only talks about games in moon though. Vitagen sometimes has otome discussions, I would go there if you want to talk about CR.

>>143153242
Not possible

>>143153242
People who haven't watched the show and call it fujobait

>>143135296
Is anyone doing Orpheus no Mado now that the raws were ripped?

>>143140765
But that's not Haru, Semimaru or Gengoro.

>>143153242
>Shoujo
>No romance

What's the fucking point.

>>143155589
To enjoy the fluffy feeling, anon

>>143152738
>3D Kanojo
I like it but it's sort of stale for me but still, I like it.

>>143153242
I thought the first season was pretty good. Watched the second and now I’m afraid to watch three and four.

>>143154596
Matsunaga is not the rapey kind of old man that shojo tends to have

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>>143155589
I think it'd be interesting at least. I need to catch up but Kiss Him Not Me's romance is all one sided since the MC keeps preferring to ship the guys instead of falling for them.

I wish the MC stayed fat though.

>>143155818
>I wished the MC stayed fat

For max self insertation?

I wish she lost her weight in a less bullshit way, like she made an effort to change for her husbando or something

>>143155780
Or indeed, indolent cunts like in Tsubaki-chou Lonely Planet.

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>>143156095
Well, I'm not fat but yes for that reason.

Also, spoiler is literally the plot for FFXV: Brotherhood Ep. 2. Wouldn't recommend it for anyone not intent on playing the game, but if it went the same route I think it would really have improved the quality of the series.

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>>143119418
Yeah? That's how I found my waifu. Also my affinity for red-headed girls.

>>143119418
Currently watching Rose of Versailles. For historical reasons. Bit predictable as of episode 5, but I don't see myself dropping it.

>>143157015
Feel this aimed for a general audience, not just female

>>143123053
Whether it's shojou or harem anime I always want the childhood friend to win over the perfect alpha male/female option.

>>143157712
This. It's very frustrating too because the childhood friend/rival often have better chemistry, less bullshit drama, and are more straightforward with how they like the MC.

And they get absolutely shit on in the narrative for it most of the time. The only shoujo ending I've been thoroughly satisfied with was Fruits Basket

>>143157015
That's not shoujo, you fucking idiot.

Reading/completed:
>Nijiiro Days
>Seishun Kouryakuhon
>Love So Life
>Akagami
>Last Game
>Taiyou no Ie


Is Alice Gakuen good? I remember watching the anime alongside CCS as a child, but I hear the manga takes a dark turn.

>>143156095
There's that manga of some fat otaku who gradually changes into a cute girl. Forgot the name, but it turns to generic shit once the love interest goes for another highschool and she meets 3 of her bishie boys IRL. What a waste.

>>143158252
Isn't that literally the one they're talking about?

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>>143124671
UNDERRATED

This and From Faraway
one of the best fantasy romance manga ever created that at least tried to involve some form of complexity. Hell From Faraway was semi political Drama with well structured lore and background, but it didnt get an Anime because Fushigi faggotry won over by having lots of hot male leads.

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The series that many consider the greatest romance manga (and subsequent anime) of all was a seinen series.

>>143124554
It's either that or an ordinary nice girl.

>>143134285
>>143134405
Explain to me why people like this so much when the MC is just bland to me. It's like a shittier version of Sainkoku.

>>143150548
Fran is a good boy albeit his route was a bit corny at some points, Impey's route was kinda like that but I liked it better overall.

I have shit taste and liked San better so who am I.

Also, where's that anime they announced?

>>143159948
>>143123370
You just have to put -harem in there.

Shoujos just get way too ridiculous and predicatable with the drama, with almost all of them being the same shit reasons.

Funny enough some poster complained about too many seinens being harems when nearly every shoujo has the majority of the male cast chasing the MC.

>>143133258
Anne of Green Gables.

>>143155818
I wish author stopped having shit taste shoving Igarashit and Nanashit everywhere.


Senpai or yuri route never.

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>>143160132
>yuri route never
>qt lesbian fujos cosplaying their OTPs never

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>>143160246
I hate when authors make sensible love interests just to make them lose, and it happens all the time. Poor Nishina.

>>143122618
Watch Ouran High School Host Club. Best reverse harem of all-time.

>>143159948
Barely anyone gives a shit about that nowadays, what are you even saying?

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>>143124638
Everyone who's ever watched Yuru Yuri should be permanently IP-range banned from /a/ and forced to fuck off back to /u/ forever.

>>143160960
Take your normalfag memes back to your homeboard, faggot.

>>143160960
Say what you must about their image. Maid-sama is shit-tier and Usui is everything wrong with male love interests.

>>143161061
>Usui everything wrong with male love interests
That's not Doumyouji. Fucker ruined not just HYD but the entirety of shoujo.

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Still the best.

>Starts off aggressive towards Sakura for a good reason: He's her rival
>Never outright an asshole to her
>Quickly warms up to her and even helps her along the way despite still collecting cards for himself
>Accepts that he isn't the chosen owner of the Clow Cards after the trial and fully supports her without so much as a complaint

>Throughout all of this they develop feelings for each other, nice and natural

So good. The second movie was perfect.

>>143158231
>Alice Gakuen
Yes, I thought Alice was very good.

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>>143161229
That first chapter of the sequel gave me a cavity.
I hope Tsubasa's sequel is built up more

>>143161061
Maid-sama is alright, but just alright is still better than yurishit.

>>143137963
how nostalgic

>>143155507

Do you even have to ask? No.

The greatest shoujo is NANA

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>>143119418
The first book I read and enjoyed was Korean tier shoujo. How did I remember over ten years? It never told me to read backwards. Also not yaoi and has one strong supporting female role. It's short, so entry level.

I dislike shojo art, but I've been known to like shojo stories. Full moon wo sagashite and chobits were nice. I think I would have liked angelic layer more if the roberts had personalities and weren't just puppets.

>>143161423
Maid-sama S2 never

A real man likes good anime whether it's shoujo, seinen, yuri SoL, cute girls doing cute things or Black Sonic the Edge-Hog, regardless of the genre.

>>143162400
Nana is more Josei than Shoujo.

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There's something about those full-lipped big eyed bijins that gets me no matter how shitty the manga. But I've been watching/reading romance shoujo and josei for so long I'm not entirely sure if I can still be called a straight male.

Loved:
>Bokura ga ita (my first shoujo though the manga turned to utter shit right after the anime ending)
>Chihayafuru; Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun; Nodame Cantabile; Ouran Host Club;

Liked:
>Lovely Complex; Taiyou no Ie; Nana; Nijiro Days; Kare Kano; H&C;

Meh
>Ao Haru Ride; Orange; Kimi wa Pet; Kimi ni Todoke; Paradise Kiss

>>143163491
That's not how fucking demographics work.

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Not enough Fruits Basket in this thread.

I've always liked the idea that true love improves a person, and even most romances I do like don't really manage to show that. Fruits Basket is amazing in this regard in that you can see how the interactions of each character with their partner develops them and makes them a better person than they'd have been if they were alone. One of my biggest pet peeves in romance has always been when a character decides to love someone in spite of all their flaws and accept all their bad sides as a given, Fruits Basket did me justice because it came out and said that this was a bad idea, and that supporting a person's self-destructive behavior out of love is cruel.

>>143158094
Tell that to all the normalfags out there.

>>143145404
Man, I hate shows like that.

>>143158761
No, because the MC in Kiss Him Not Me isn't interested in her harem (another than fantasizing the main two fucking) at first anyway.

>>143163834
Fruits Basket is one series that started off as great but became complete shit towards the end.

One of the few manga that managed to dislike the couple that I rooted for that managed to become canon.

The only thing that sucks about Shoujo is the way a lot of them draw the dudes.

And the rape ntr drama of course.

>>143139867
>even better is when a shonen acts like a shoujo
Eww, no. They usually end up as fujobaits.

>>143141308
I strongly dislike multipandering shit.

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>>143159555
These two and escaflowne are the only lost-in-a-fantasy world that have ever done right in fantasy fiction.

>>143164054
Rape ntr drama. I dont know what you have been reading, but you obviously have shit taste if you those type

>>143164054
>And the rape ntr drama of course.
The rape drama is really in the more "saucy" shoujo.

But NTR is not typical shoujo fare. At all. Unless you mean when the childhood friend doesn't win even though the MC never thought of said person more than a friend bullshit.

>>143164403
Read those type*

>>143133695
Nozaki is a mere parody on shoujo stereotypes though.

>>143158008
>It's very frustrating too because the childhood friend/rival often have better chemistry, less bullshit drama, and are more straightforward with how they like the MC.

I think it varies in shoujo but in the few shonen rom-com I read, it was pretty much the opposite. They're insecure, dramatic and take forever to realize they're in love or confess.
The childhood friend from Shigatsu was horrendous.

>>143164054
>The only thing that sucks about Shoujo is the way a lot of them draw the dudes.

Yeah, too yaoi-ish for me.

>there will never be another shoujo where the main boy lusts over the asexual heroine

Shuurei was great.

>>143160132
>Senpai or yuri route never.
Please no, they were my favourites from what I've read of the manga.

>>143160246
This is actually something that happens in real life. I know because I saw it on the internet.

>>143165054
>This is actually something that happens in real life. I know because I saw it on the internet.

Yeah, that video of Naruto and Sasuke cuddling, being cosplayed by two fangirls.

>no Amaama to Inazuma
>no Bokura Minna wa Kawaisou

Come on guys, this was so close to a perfect thread.

>>143119418
Of course.

However, a lot of shoujo stuff is written specifically to appeal to women, so it shouldn't be surprising that most men don't like it as they have different aesthetic ideals.