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So now we can all agree that this shit is finally good? It only took 3 Arcs but things are looking brighter for the first time........For now
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>>143114531
it started being good during the champa tournamet

but this arc gets more attention because it has MaixTrunks for shippers and black goku foe edgelords


i just want to see the new multiverse tournament already

the good thing about it is that we could get future trunks in team beerus
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>>143114696
>it started being good during the champa tournamet
Hell no, the only good fight was Goku Vs Hit and that one was barely decent. Th animation and drawing was still terrible and the story a lame rehash. Sure this new Arc is literally Fanfic Tier but at least it is somewhat interesting unlike the other ones.
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when's next episode i cant wait
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Aside from the premise and the execution it's perfect.
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>>143115036
Are you serious? Airs on saturdays, subs are done by sundays.
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>>143115098
I haven't followed this anime since the first few episodes. It's literally at 48 so I forgot when it airs or gets subbed
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>>143114696
>it started being good during the champa tournamet
This, Goku vs Hit is one of the best moments in the whole series, if only Toei delivered on the animation and fight choreography then it could have been even better along with the rest of the tournament.
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>>143115182
The Manga is way better in that regard
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>>143114531
>good
You really have to define "good" here. Compared to other anime? Hell no, the animation still sucks rancid asshole and storywise literally most fanfiction out there is better. Is it better and more interesting than the previous arcs? Of course
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>>143115216
Yeah but since it's an advertisement for the anime and monthly it's rushed as hell.
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Is the manga done with the tournament yet?
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>>143115182
>Goku vs Hit is one of the best moments in the whole series
>whole series
We're talking about Super here aren't we? Please tell me you talk about super
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>>143115270
Yes.
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>>143115274
I'm talking about the whole franchise if I didn't make that clear enough already.
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>>143114531
I'm actually watching it again after dropping it 3 episodes in.
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>>143115364
I'm in the soap boat but I haven't caught up yet. Hope this arc actually turns out to be good.
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>>143115338
Okay but how hard have you been hitting that bong while watching and how many brain cells has it killed exactly? I want to pull of a smilar experience so I have to know how to achive that state of high
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>>143114531
>guy1 - "Guys, Super is shit what can we do to make it better."
>guy2 - "DBZ fans like Goku, so why don't we have more of Goku."
>guy1 - "Ok, but he's already in Super."
>guy2 - "Yea, but make another one, in Black. Super Special Japanese Edition Black Goku. Fans will eat this shit up."
>guy1 - "Brilliant!"
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>>143115454
You never want to be in the soap boat, anon.
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>>143114752
Fuck you. Gimmick fights are always great. Especially when the gimmicks actually work (unlike poor Burter and Jakon). The only boring one was Cabba.
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>>143115499
works every time

they are just really good at making gokus
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>tfw having to wait another week
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I really love how mad this pairing is making casual fans

>>143114752
I legitimately liked the Cabba "fight"/training lesson. It was good character stuff
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>>143115567
>The only boring one was Cabba.
Fuck out of here, Vegeta interacting with Cabba was great and it actually had some decent animation and choreography. Can't wait to see more U6 Saiyans.
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>>143114531

>one of the darker arc with two characters dead
>brighter

I see what you did there, OP.
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>>143115499
>"remember the time we took Freeza and recollored him sending his powerlevel beyond anything else? Lets do that again only with Goku!"
"But we did that already, remember? He's blue now."
>"No this time he's from future! And black, kids like black don't they?"
"They sure do! You have once again proven to be the genius this generation of anime needs sir."
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>>143115785
Well I mean it worked.

You saw that rating spike right?
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>>143115604
waiting hasn't been that hard for me, there are plenty of dragon ball videogames ou there, so while i wait i just play modded tenkaichi 3 to recreate fights from super https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi_hg8AhIhI&feature=youtu.be

there is also dokkan battle and im also going to buy xenoverse during the next steam sale

and don't foget that we are getting xenoverse 2 this year too
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>>143115606
Dirty fujoshits and literal faggots are raging that their husbando has been taken by a christmas cake.
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>>143115578
If it's good enough for Kinnikuman, it's good enough for Goku.

Unfortunately, it wasn't good enough and actually it was the worst arc by far. But they tried. Zebra Goku when?
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>>143115812
no, i stopped watching super after ep5
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>>143115830

>Scrambled Egg arc is the worst arc

Screw you. Robin is allstar there.
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>>143115567
>The only boring one was Cabba

DELETE THIS!!!!
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>>143115812
I don't know what worked and what didn't man I just can't seriously believe that fans are this easilly satisfied. I mean sure I can understand that people watch this out of nostalgic reasons or because they want to know how this whole mess ends but they can't seriously think this is "good" compared to the original series can they?
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>>143115567

>most boring fight is not pooh

You're just cummins fanboy, right?
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>>143115947
You'd be calling the original series shit if you watched it today and had to wait a week per episode.
>muh pacing
>wow nothing happened
>QUALITY
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>>143115882
That's fine, but the rest of it was shit, from Kinnikuman's older brother who had never been mentioned before suddenly appearing right as they're mentioning him from the first time to the cheat armor to Kinnikuman's team changing every fucking panel, to Kinnikuman's "friends" not even joining his team right away except for Terry (who was a given) and Robin (who tried to kill him like 4 times).
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>>143115947
>I just can't seriously believe that fans are this easilly satisfied
It's Dragon Ball. It's not something people watch for heavy plot.

Also, it's literally a show for children
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>>143115932
>>143115968
How is Cabba not the most boring? It was just muh saiyan pride with Vegeta teaching him how to turn SS and then it was over. At least Pooh did something unique and Goku had to beat him in an unconventional way.
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>>143116045

>first bout
>second bout
>warsman
>4 times

Can you re-count this for me? Besides, ever since Warsman's fight, Robin has learned to see in a better light.

We never see Radish-head in dbz until he kidnapped his nephew. Your point?
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like i said in the other thread, goten and trunks should have been the main characters.
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>>143116161
>It was just muh saiyan pride
That's why I liked it
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>Everybody is making a big deal out of Black.
>Giving him a massive backstory.
>Implying its not stupid inane shit.

Black is a clone of Goku, it was Gero's last big experiment, if he couldn't beat him, he would clone him. Thats why its got all that machine hint shit, its why he is dressed with a red sash similar to red ribbon army, its why he has that one dumb ear ring that powers him up basically.

Remember, Trunks never destroyed the machine that created Cell, and he still looks like a fucking teenager.
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>>143114531
O shit they made Turles Canon
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>>143116189
>that pic

>>143116161
>he thinks "muh" is a good argument
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>>143114531
It was good since the beginning, but this new arc might just change that. All I wanted was more multiverse tournament, I never asked for this Goku Black GARBAGE, but I'm glad Future Trunks is back.
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>>143116181
I never said that Radditz was handled well either. Your point?
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>>143116211

The next thing you're going to say is that Gero uploaded his consciousness in a fucking computer to keep making new weapons to kill Goku with. Just like Dr Light in MMX series.
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>>143116211
We have a mysterious Kai in the opening, and Black has a earring similar to the Potara and some ring that will open a hole to a different timeline next episode.

It's obvious that he's going to be tied to all the god stuff, not any android.
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>>143116281
what anon you don't feed your digimon?
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>>143116189
They should have at least dealt with the filler goo by themselves. Seeing a Goten and Trunks space adventure turn into a Goku vs Vegeta fight was lame.

What else are Goten and Trunks going to get to do? Especially now with Goten being pushed into studying?
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>>143116302

And Kinnikuman is all about introducing new things out of nowhere. Like, at the most recent series, Kinnikuman is confirmed to be descended from a god. Your point?
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>>143116286
>multiverse tournament,
We just had one, let them change it up a little.
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>>143116319
May as well, its all shit anyway.
>>143116324

You guys do realize this is their way of taking Goku out of the series to give the VA a break, and stop power level bullshit, Super is shit, people know its shit, and is it really getting the ratings it needs to survive?
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>>143116319

Well, he did. Technically. It was the premise of the Android 13 movie.
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>>143115813
O right. Its a shame all Dragon Ball Games since Budokai Tenkaichi 3 are mostly shit. I'm surprise to see Xenoverse getting a sequel. Is it really good? I mean the gameplay when fighting cause i remember the other ones being utter shit
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>>143116286
>It was good since the beginning
You can't seriously think this
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>>143116260
i wish that was the case

it would have been a lot more interesting than this

every movie bad guy should be canon, except broly , he is shit, , well broly would be ok if he could at least control himself instead of going maximum power apeshit all the time

i wish they had at least mentioned cooler during RoF
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>>143116375
>You guys do realize this is their way of taking Goku out of the series to give the VA a break

HAHAHA
That is a laugh. Nice joke.
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>>143116375
>and is it really getting the ratings it needs to survive?
It has had good ratings since the start, but the first episode of the Trunks arc took it to only 0,2% behind One Piece. It was was the third tv anime most watched in Japan that week, losing only to Sazae and One Piece itself. Yeah, Super is going nowhere.
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>>143116286
>It was good since the beginning
Fuck no, the movie retellings sucked outside of the last episodes of Godku vs. Beerus which had pretty good animation.
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>>143116430
>every movie bad guy should be canon,
Nope they're all shit except for their designs.
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>>143116018
Dragonball Z is bad compared to most anime today. Super however is just a bad joke of that what once was, a parodie of Z at most. While Z had problems with pacing and dragged out shouting scenes Super manages to pull of much worse things
>the animation, god the animation oh god why
>completely SHITTING on the characteristics of some characters
>oh god have you seen the animation
>barely new characters, better recolor the old ones
>completely fuck up powerlevels, they never made much sense but now it got just weird
>completely alter the tone of the whole series, no imminent danger from eventual bad guys with Whis and Beerus baby sitting the earth

Long story short: It's a completely different show. It's best to watch while thinking of it as a parody
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>>143116396
XV2's gameplay looks like it's chasing the Tenkaichi audience, if nothing else.

Based on what they've shown so far though, I wouldn't buy it. XV1 was shitty. Combat wasn't fun, and the RPG elements get in the way of it feeling like a fighting game.
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>>143116375
>May as well, its all shit anyway.
He's talking about how that actually happened in Movie 7, you know, the Android 13 movie?

>You guys do realize this is their way of taking Goku out of the series to give the VA a break
What? That's insane. There's literally two Gokus now

>and is it really getting the ratings it needs to survive?
HA! It's top ten every week. Last week in particular was the highest in the series. Not to mention, due to amazon listings, the show is confirmed to run to at minimum 72 episodes with no signs of stopping
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>>143116430
>every movie bad guy should be canon
First of all, that's impossible, second of all no, they suck. Actually all the movies sucked except the second one, that was good, and BoG
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>>143114531
Only Z babies like this shit arc
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At this point they could have Goku and Vegeta fight Beerus' shit and they'd still make money. There is nothing good about this and they don't have to make it be good. Super is left to the new guys to draw
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>>143116396

I thought Xenoverse's basic gameplay was decent. The combo system is better than in Tenkaichi, but the tracking (if you aren't positioned correctly, your character might start whiffing attacks mid combo) and specials are generally inferior. It has a character creator and was the first game with a real attempt at an original story with new characters, although a lot of it still is just time traveling through the old sagas.

The main issue is that it had a really bad RNG (and RNG on top of RNG too - sometimes you have a chance to trigger special battles by fulfilling special conditions in another battle and those special battles only have a chance of giving some loot - so even fulfilling the condition, you still need to get tow RNG throws on your favor to get what you want sometimes)
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>>143116482
>barely new characters
At the very least, this is wrong. There is a fair amount of them by now
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>>143116482
> with Whis and Beerus baby sitting the earth
Except Beerus and Whis don't really care if earth survives, and will only keep Bulma around so she can make them food.

whis only turned back time to save earth that ONE time because he wanted to make a point to Goku.

Itsn ot like hes going to do it again and again
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>>143116546
You realise "Z babies" are all at least in their twenties while Super fetuses mostly still go to grade school right?
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>>143116319
He did, that's how Cell was made. I guess his lab was never blown up in Trunks' timeline so there's a chance it's still making stuff. Trunks knows where it is though and I doubt he just left it alone.
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>>143116286
This

i want to see if there are more freezie pops,maybe one of them could be a good guy Frost was a shit

i don't know maybe they could make kuriza canon
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>>143116611
this.
pretty much everyone i know that likes DBZ is 25+
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Reminder that Black is some kind of stupid looking shapeshifting android with springy gloved robot hands.
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>>143116430
>every movie bad guy should be canon

Hell no. The only canon movies are
Bardock Father of Goku (fuck Minus)
History of Trunks
Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!!
Battle of Gods
Resurrection of 'F'

so only the good ones.
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>>143116211
If yu want to enjoy Super you'll have to turn your brain off. Otherwise it doens't work
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>>143116669
>Bardock Father of Goku (fuck Minus)
>History of Trunks
>Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!!
Those aren't movies though, they are specials

>Resurrection of 'F'
This wasn't that good at all
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>>143116669
Broly and Cooler are both good enough to be canon, if we ignore that they dont' fit anywhere in the timeline.
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>>143116638
I don't think they'll involve Dr. Gero again. That's just bad taste.

>created androids
>created cell
>created black goku

that'd be 3 fucking arcs this guy would be responsible for.
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>>143116669
If it's animated it's not canon.
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Origina DB > Super > DBZ > Pile of Shit > GT.
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>>143116709
>Broly and Cooler are both good enough to be canon
No
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>>143116669
>Canon is a seal of quality.
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>>143115830

Super Dragon Goku and Muscle Goku when?
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>>143116705
>Those aren't movies though, they are specials
Same shit

>This wasn't that good at all
Yes it was

>>143116709
>Broly and Cooler are both good enough to be canon,
Nope.

>>143116715
>If it's animated it's not canon.
Nice headcanon
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>>143116611

wait what?you are saying there are kids who like dragon balls super?

i've been trying to make my little brother wacth it and he doesn't like it, kids nowdays only like to see gameplays on youtube

i bet all the non japanese adience is at least over 19

there is no such thing as a super fetus

only dragon ball fans and z babies
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>>143116718
nice b8
Dragoonball>Z>>Super>>>fanfics>GT
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>>143116738
Nigger if you think BoTG and RoF make the cut, so do those two.

Also, add the Janemba one to the list.
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>>143116740
That movie sucked apart from Veku, Goten and Trunks vs Hitler
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>>143116791
Super is better than DBZ because it takes itself less seriously. It is also way more funny.
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>>143116718
DBZ > DB > GT > Super
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>>143116791
>>143116718

DB > DBZ > > >GT > > > > > Super.

Objective fact.
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>>143116804
>Nigger if you think BoTG and RoF
No fuck off. Toriyama wrote the story for both those movies.
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>>143116835
>Super is better than DBZ because it takes itself less seriously. It is also way more funny
It is not funny at all, and not taking itself seriously by itself does not mean it is good.
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>>143116835
It being serious is why millions enjoyed it.
It's how it became famous.

When you take something like that and turn it into some comedy..then it becomes hard to care for anything that happens, aka making it shit.
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>>143116718
this guy gets it
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>>143116862
And? That doesn't make them good. Hell, Super proves beyond doubt Toriyama is quite capable of churning out garbage.

>>143116892
Super is not bad because it's less serious. Super is bad because everything about it is fucking terrible.
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>>143116566
Ok sorry I have phrased that wrong. They haven't introduced new "relevant" characters. When I saw the pictures of the fighters I was hyped as fuck. Then it turns out Monaka is basically Mr.Satan2, Cabba is some random scrub Sayjan, that fat yellow guy is fodder aswell and that recollored Freeza guy is basically just another Freeza just even fucking weaker. Machine guy was pretty based and I'll give you Hit too though I'm absolutely not fond of his ability. Hell I guess Toryjama felt like a genius while writing that. He really really shouldn't.

>>143116594
Yeah no you are completely wrong. If you really think earth will ever be in danger with these two guys being the strongest in town then you clearly haven't catched the tone Dragonball Super adapted in comparison to Z. When have you ever felt a dangerous, menacing vibe in this series? Not even fucking once. It's all about stuffing food into beerus samas holes, occasional jokes about blowing up the earth if it doesn't taste and Bulma shouting shit at him for threatening her saggy tits.
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>>143116840
>>143116852
>People actually think GT is somehow better
DB > DBZ > > > > > > > > > > Super = GT
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>mfw animefags pretend to like the first series better so people think they're patrician
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>>143116788
>wait what?you are saying there are kids who like dragon balls super?
The main audience in Japan is kids. It's the biggest demographic for Dragon Ball as a whole, especially now with DB Heroes being the biggest thing since god over there

>i bet all the non japanese adience is at least over 19
Who the fuck cares about the non-japanese audience right now?
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Can we just stop for a moment and realise that even if Trunks had attained Super Saiyan 2, he STILL would have been weaker than Super Perfect Cell.

Unless he's kept up training this entire fucking time, he wouldnt have even made it to SS3.

Which is still super inferior to Super Buu.

Which is super inferior to Ultimate Gohan.

Who would still be an ant compared to Goku and Vegeta in their base form now.

Literally what is the fucking point? This Black Goku faggot will be on Goku/Vegetas level obviously. He should be able to fucking decimate Trunks with a glare at this point.

We're talking the difference between fucking Dragonball Yamcha vs any Super Saiyan here.
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>>143116940
Better art, better animation, better character design, better music. Equally bad writing.

Yes, it's better. It's not good, but it's better.
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>>143116852
Nope.
Nobody remembers fights from DB.

But fucking Everyone.
I mean E v e r y o n e knows about Goku going Super Sayian.

All the games are based around it.
All the general discussion is based around it.

It objectively made more money than DB.
It had more reruns.

There's no reason to even consider DB being better aside from nostalgia.
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>>143116922
>And? That doesn't make them good.
It makes them canon retard unlike that Cooler and Broly shit. Also both movies are great.
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>>143116924
>When have you ever felt a dangerous, menacing vibe in this series
This guy?
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>>143116966
Did you miss the arc where Freeza came back and beat up Gohan?
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>>143116966
Then how did black manage to not turn him into paste in one blow? Kid Buu almost killed vegeta in 2 attacks, and vegeta was much stronger than Trunks ever got.
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>>143114531
I was thinking the same thing. Seems like the first arcs were just to introduce new concepts and characters. We got Super Saiyan god, goku and Vegeta using it outside of the ritual, and the other universe gods. Let the actual story proceed. Or at least what looks interesting

It's goten
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>>143116985
Just to be accurate here, you're talking about in America right?
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>>143116993
The bad art is hard to take serious.

He also looks like fucking goku and is smiling all the time. Kinda hard to get bad vibes from that.
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>>143116985
I'm gonna say you're trolling to spare you the judgement you deserve.
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>>143116985
>Nobody remembers fights from DB.
Speak for yourself faggot.
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>>143114752
>Th animation and drawing was still terrible
I need this meme to end. The old show was just as poorly drawn at times. You just couldn't tell when it was all at less than 480p and blurry as fuck.
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>>143117026
There is a reason that Dragon Ball Kai and nearly every videogame skips straight to Raditz.
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>>143116993
We know nothing of him yet. He could be a Cabba level jobber for all we know since it really isn't that big of a deal to shit on future Trunks. Though yes, I admit that he caught my interest. Lets see how he's getting shit on now.
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>>143117026
It being aired in America is what made the popularity explode, so yes.

It's a fact that when people think of Goku, they think of DBZ.
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The threads have gotten really shitty since this new arc started
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>>143116985
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>>143117092
Dragon Ball threads have been shitty since before either of us were born. This is what happens when the adaptation massively surpasses the source material in popularity.
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>>143117090
>It being aired in America is what made the popularity explode,
Holy shit, you're an actual idiot aren't you?

No seriously, this is most fucking stupidest post I've ever read about DB this week. Do you even know anything about this franchise past what you watched as a child on Toonami?
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Dragon Ball (entire manga)>>>>DB anime=DB Kai>>Super>>>>DBZ anime>>>>>>>>>GT
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>>143114531
>evil Goku
>jobber Trunks
>shipping bullshit

U6 was more promising, and will probably end up the better arc
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>>143117113
No, these threads have always "sucked" but it felt like at least maybe a fair amount of people were at least from here. Ever since this arc started, it's been feeling like there's more crossboarders and full retard posters. For example, there was a Super thread that had a Spanish-sub stream as the OP. That hasn't happened since like the first episodes
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>>143117004
The same Frieza who got so strong after training because of his unbelievably stupid potential that he could have beat Goku and Vegeta if he had trained a little bit more, where Gohan for convenience reasons had become weaker than he was in the Cell games?

Yeah, and that made sense, as contrived as it was.

>>143117010
That's what I'm saying man, this guy absolutely has to be so much stronger than Trunks that it's retarded for him to not vaporize him by fucking flicking in his direction.

Trunks even tried to hold him off while not in Super Saiyan, which is even more illogical because that means he'd be 50 times weaker than he should be.
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>>143115476
I'll say that Gohan going SSJ2, Gohan killing cell and Goku going SSJ1 are probably much better moments but SSG Kaioken x10 was still pretty fucking high up there in great moments.
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>>143116993
im not that guy and i love dragon ball super


but black doesn't have a menacing vibe, im calling it right now, in the next episode goku or veget are going to beat the shit out of him and by the end of the episode he will say that he is sorry about the thing he did

he is probably going to say something like

>sorry mr, goku, i was just following order from the green kai, i don't even know what a sayajin is, you have great hair cut sir, please don't punch me
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>>143117148
>jobber Trunks
As opposed to when he isn't a jobber? Which is like ever since his first appearance?
>shipping bullshit.
Please. It's a relatively popular pairing and Toriyama made it. It's not like it's dominating the show or anything
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>>143117092
Too many shitposters like the GTfags around.
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>>143117117
>Still no argument
>Just insults
Alright you can stop posting now.
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>>143117148
>jobber
Retarded buzzword for retarded people.
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>>143117200
>Still no argument
There's no point in arguing with a Toonami kiddie is that insane enough to believe that DBZ airing in America is what made it become super popular. As if, you know, it wasn't already super popular to begin with both in its home and other countries before America
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>>143117145
The first anime was just as bad as Z, you just don't remember it.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/481921

Watch this fucking episode then readjust your list.
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>>143117117
stick around Super threads and you'll read a dumber one by tomorrow

these people genuinely enjoy this trash lol. it's worse than unironic Naruto threads
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>>143117288
>these people genuinely enjoy this trash lol.
But I do like this show (now). But that shit was just dumb
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>>143117173
>replying to bait
There is a reason I didn't rely to him.
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>>143115813
I'm waiting eagerly for Xenoverse 2.

It's going to be cooler.
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>>143117241
>There's no point in arguing
Stopped reading. Shoo

>>143117288
>complains about people enjoying trash yet still posts in this thread
>will most likely complain in the next thread when a new episode is released
???
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>>143117238
Do you have a better word for "guy that always loses"?
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>>143117435
>Stopped reading. Shoo
My argument is that Dragon Ball was popular for years before it aired in Eagleland, especially in it's home country where DB was the most popular manga ever until One Piece. And it aired in multiple countries before it aired in America as well. You'd have to think Funimation was the center of the world to think that America was why DB became popular especially since it didn't even air over here until years after GT had finished in Japan
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I will say this, it's cool to have a new DBZ episode every week and have no idea what's happening next. It's something that America never experienced since it took 10 years to adapt a series that ended a decade earlier and had been spoiled. It's the first time that I can enjoy a dbz plot and have no idea what's going to happen next.
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>>143116924
>When have you ever felt a dangerous, menacing vibe in this series?

Only King Piccolo and Super Buu.
Cell was a retard and Frieza was just some boring sadist.
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>>143115604
I can't believe i can't wait for a new DBS episode.
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>>143115606
all the more reason to enjoy it
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>>143117467
>retard doesn't even know what job means
>yet still uses it
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>>143117179
>you have great hair cut sir, please don't punch me
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>Black Goku can time travel just from his sheer power

What the fuck? Something tells me this arc will be full of plot holes
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>>143117525
I'd prefer Mai and Future Trunks to remain turbovirgins.
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>>143117524
Neither can I. At the beginning I disliked it for the animation. But then it started growing on me. Since Hit vs. Goku I've been feeling like the wait was well worth it.
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>>143117605
>Black Goku can time travel just from his sheer power
What? He clearly does it with that ring in the preview.
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>>143117605
>plot holes
>in DB

Oh my god!
If they allow a plot hole in the story it will be the end of all of us! NOOOOOOOO.
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>>143117524
I'm excited for a new episode, but it's purely for the plot, as shitty as that seems.

I still hate the art/animation. They shouldn't have made Super canon if their badget couldn't compete with the previous series.
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It would be interesting if Black Goku was actually a Goku from another Universe, who grew up with Goku's original sinister personality, but that's not going to happen.

It's most likely something else taking the form of Goku, which is stupid as shit. (intruducing characters that look like Goku just because)
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>>143117605
Do you know what plot hole means? That's like saying that Darth Vader being Luke's father is a plot hole because Obi-Wan said he was dead in the first movie.
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>>143117884
Or Goku being controller by a God/Demon who liked his power.
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Why is goku's japanese voice such fucking shit, literally the only reason why I don't watch this....
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>>143117948
Controlled, fuck.
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>>143117884
That original idea you have is literally Tullece
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>>143117968
Goku's VA is literally perfect and above any criticism, neophyte. She is a heavenly treasure of anime.
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>>143118009
And Turles was fucking retarded even for a movie only villain.
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>>143116966
Thats exactly what i was thinking, by the end of the Cell Arc Trunks was weaker than Perfect Cell. Now it looks like Trunks can't go to Super Saiyan 2 since he didn't showed ant sparkles or big hair. That means that even in Super Saiyan 1 he could be a bit stronger than Perfect Cell but if Black Goku can't fight equally against Goku and Vegeta then that means he is in Super Saiyan Blue level of power or maybe even stronger, If that is true then how the fuck was Trunks able to fright him. That guy should have killed him with just the touch of his finger. Thats why like i said before if you want to watch Super you have to turn your brain off because the powerlevel bullshit is off teh charts and even worse than before and will probably increase.
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>>143117968
>>143118064
I don't like Goku and his a family having a granny voice but she's objectively talented for how different she makes them sound. Her Black Goku sounds completely different from hick vanilla Goku.
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I know Dragon Ball Super is Plothole turn into a show. But why did Bulma asked Kid Trunks if the guy inside the spaceship had Blue hair? Trunks always had purple hair in Z. king Tory
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Given how overpowered of a species Saiyans are you have to wonder why the main characters never tried reviving and redeeming and recruiting more.

Nappa was actually a nicer fucking guy than Vegeta in their first appearance.

And maybe even Tarble could become useful if they powerleveled him.
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>>143118121
Maybe Black Goku was toying with him.

Though you have to wonder why Black Goku even bothered defending against Trunks' attacks when he probably could've just no-selled them.
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>>143114696
>not TrunxMai
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>>143118196
Jesus, people, why are you still focusing on this shit? It's a redesign.
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>>143118064
She's objectively a shit option for adult male characters.
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>>143117690

How will they ever be able to repopulate the earth?

Besides, we know that there will eventually be a Vegeta jr, so Trunks is going to have kids at some point. Either that or Bra, and that is less convincing.
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>>143118121
arguably if you care so much about powerlevel shit you didn't have much of a brain to begin with
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nah
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>>143117884
There have been absolutely no identical characters from different universes so far. Also doesn't explain the dark aura and calling saiyans like he wasn't one. It's just not Goku talking.
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>>143115604
This, great OST, the art and animation is improving a bit. So many greats scenes two episodes in and next episode might have Black vs Goku already.
>>>/wsg/1143893
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>>143118325
>we know that there will eventually be a Vegeta jr
GT is not canon.
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>>143118121
You see, this is exactly the kind of stuff that nobody cares about
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>>143118248
Yeah i thought the same maybe he was just playing but still. Trunks shouldn't have been able to take that energy beam and less 8 or more of them.
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I don't remember, weren't Pilaf, Mai and Shu in the original Dragonball? How the fuck are they still the same age in Super?
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>>143118325
>How will they ever be able to repopulate the earth?

Super Dragon Balls.
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>>143118473
They were older in Dragon Ball. They wished to be younger to shenron.
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>>143118473
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>>143118409
>energy beam
It's literally some shit ki shots and arguably Black didn't want to kill him immediately.
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>>143117525
>>143117690
Nah.
If he actually manages to save F Mai somehow.
than he deserves to take that purity away
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>>143114531
>super saiyan form gets BTFO by a base form goku
good god
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>>143118196
Because Sonic's arms are blue, Chris.
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>>143117179
Why do people still think Green Kai will be a villain? He just looks like a tall green Eastern Supreme Kai
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>>143118601
Exactly. Black wants him to suffer.
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>>143118657
He's falling like a cast out angel followed by black feathers.
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>>143118637

TRUNK'S HAIR IS NOT BLUE, AND IT SERIOUSLY CAUSE SENSORY OVERLOADS IN ME!!! TOEI NEEDS TO RECALL EVERYTHING DRAGON BALL SUPER AND CHANGE TRUNK'S HAIR COLOUR BACK IMMEDIATELY!!!
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>>143118473
Watch BoG
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>>143117467
Goy?
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>>143118357
>So many greats scenes two episodes
More than GT had with 64 episodes.
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>>143114531
>its a destroy future trunks happiness and turn him into a more miserable arc
literally why
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>>143118009
Original Idea? I was saying it would be stupid exactly because of what they did with turtles.

"Oh hey, here is a character that looks like Goku, no reason, just because."
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>>143118613
No. F Mai won't be revived. Same goes for F Bulma and the rest of the people in F Earth. F Trunks will have to live alone in the F Earth with that cat.
Kid Mai will die as well, to stop any version of Trunks from possibly getting with her.
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>masenko
it has been too long.
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>>143118862
F Trunks x Suffering is the OTP.

>>143118871
IIRC I remember the reason was something about low class saiyans having similar looks. It was retarded like that.
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>>143118694
Thy could just be Black knocking Zamasu back or something. Kaioshin aren't usually villains, he looks more like the Supreme Kai to Black Goku's Majin Buu.

If he does end up being a villain he might be sympathetic, which isn't usually something ascribed to Dragon Ball villains.
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>>143118862
because he must suffer
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I wish the manga wasnt so far behind.
At least with the translations.
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>>143118862
YOU WANTED THINGS TO GET SERIOUS

YOU GOT WHAT YOU WANTED

AND ALL IT TOOK WAS DESTROYING TRUNKS' HAPPINESS
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>>143118917
I was like wuuuuuut then I remember who trained future Trunks. Now Piccolo's legacy is being Pan's babysitter. But he's an awesome babysitter.
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>>143118985
Now that F Mai is dead it is only fair they kill Kid Mai as well, right?
It wouldn't be fair to allow one version of Trunks to have Mai, both of them must be deprived of her. Bonus points if Kid Mai dies in a similar way to F Mai, with Kid Trunks watching.
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>>143119044
>killing Mai again
That's too much you sick fuck.
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>>143118862
>having to witness best girls die
literally suffering. Cant blame him that PTSD
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>>143118862
the real tragedy here is that he lost his beautiful gains.
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>>143119044
Future Trunks will marry Chronoa.
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>>143119044
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>>143116669
>Yo! Son Goku and His Friends Return!!
>Good

Kill you self.
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>>143119119
Please, Time Loli is more likely to fuck Black at this point.
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>>143119151
Rude!
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>>143119091
It is not.
Think about it, as they are right now the Pilaf Gang might just make it into heaven.
She will die a virgin too. Her purity will be preserved.
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>>143118862
you guys asked for it.
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>>143119119
This is best case scenario. Future Trunks is a man, he needs someone who is actually experienced in pleasing men.
Mai can only give him "the treatment" at best, that is hardly satisfying for a man.
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>>143119151
>you self.
>yourself

Fuck off retard.
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>>143119118
Can't blame him here. You cannot keep your gains when all you have to eat for months is dog food.
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>there are people who unironically like Super over DBZ
>there are people who think it is legitimately funny
>there are people who don't skip the "comedy" with pilaf and the down syndrome gang to just get to the serious parts

Who are they and how can I kill them
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So I dropped this show when I realized it was mostly going to be the movies redone. Now that it looks like its interesting I want to pick it back up, where should I start?
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Only anime i prefer english dub. COME ON FUNIMATION FFS I SKIPPED ALL OF IT SO FAR BUT IM BACK IN BECAUSE THIS ARC IS FUCKING GOOD
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>>143119262
Cat food
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>>143119279
The funny parts are the best part of Super, seriously.
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>>143119279
Beerus is legit gunny but i agree the pilaf shit was cancer in Dragonball its cancer now
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>>143119309
this is the problem
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>>143118917
>masenko
Only wall level Dc
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>>143119279
Someone sounds like they have a baby dik. I get you don't even have pubes, Brian
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I hope we get future Trunks x loli Mai
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>>143119295
Super is a chore for me to watch but once it gets the Latino Dub i will be incredible happy
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>>143119279
>disliking Super
>actually thinks DBZ is better
>probably thinks GT is a better series
>probably whines about Gohan as well
>wants to kill people who disagree with him

Autistic piece of shit.
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>>143119279
>Vegeta's face: what am I doing with my life?
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>>143119118
>tfw those gains will never be recovered because of the artstyle
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>>143119372
>Mario Castaneda wanting to play Goku again
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>>143119368
The only loli for Future Trunks is the Supreme Kai of Time.
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>>143119407
I never want to see Super Broly because the art style will ruin him
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>>143119397
>Autistic piece of shit
>Ironically saying Super is better than Z.
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>>143119118

Toriyama will pay. Dearly.
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>>143114531
>>143118121
>>143118409
>>143118917
Anyone have gifs of the U6 arc like of Hit or Cabba?
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>>143119475
He also cut his hair. His super saiyan hair looked cool when long.
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>>143119452
>Brolyfags riot after this
Thanks, you gave me a reason to want Broly in Super.
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>>143119472
>muh kill yourself

>>>/v/

Autism goes there, not here.
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>>143119475
Nope, enjoy your SUFFERING
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>>143119364
>>143119397
Post your info guys. I'm sorry you have to die before you lost your virginity but no one will care for two children show watching losers.
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>>143119408
>>Mario Castaneda wanting to play Goku again
Didn't you heard. The original voices are coming back in Super
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>>143119523
rude
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>>143119516
I agree. especially with the tied one.
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>>143119580
Holy shit, they must have made a deal with Mr. Satan.
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>>143119408
Dude probably gets very well paid for it.
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>>143119523
This, fuck Brolyfags.
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>>143119523

I want pic related to happen, /a/
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>>143119621
Last time I heard the vas were angry because they were getting paid peanuts hence we got that dub for Kai.
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>>143119578
Ow the edge.
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>>143119600
They'd probably fuck it up anyway, like the hack frauds they are.
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>>143119644
Broly looks a lot like All Might in a suit
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>>143119541
You should know the place beforehand to say that. Go cry somewhere else, faggot.
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>>143114531
I don't remember this sequence
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>>143119578
123 Take Street, Nowhere, Kansas.
I answer to the name Max Power.
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>>143119666
you ain't seen nothin' yet.
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>>143119602
>Mr. Satan.
The funny thing is Mr.Satan isn't coming back to the show. But the other ones who are important to the story sure are comin back
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>>143119663
Yeah, but they came back for the movies, so there's hope. Maybe.
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>>143119709
>>>/wsg/1143946
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>>143119700
Oh, don't be mad. There isn't anything wrong with you, it is just that you don't fit in here because you are special. You understand? You are special, not flawed.
SPECIAL.
And special people like you have a special board for them.
>>>/v/
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I don't remember him using his sword this much.
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>>143116375
yeah, keep crying anon. DBS is here to stay, that shit is in the top 10 ratings EVERY WEEK

say it's shit if you want, the ratings say otherwise. you and 4chan in general are in the minority
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>>143119822
It got broken the second time he tried to use it.
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>>143119822
I expected nigger goku to catch the sword with his left hand
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>>143119802
Anon, there isn't any need to tell me what you mommy tells you before she cries in her room thinking how shitty her son is.
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>>143119822
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>>143119915
Kek random thing. Whats up with the mods banning people over little shit nowadays?
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So there is a new ending for super it seems
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>>143119965

Gib video
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>>143119965
huh

could that be planet salad?
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>>143119965
Good, more high pitch J-pop songs.
As if Super couldn't get any worse.
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>>143119873

>it's not bad because alot of people say it's good

wow, good to know you share the same opinion as a little 5 year old, faggot
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>>143120065
I really WOOOW WOOW WOW
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>>143119965
nigga where did you find this
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>>143120073
Toei can't hear you over the sound of all the money it's making. Cry harder.
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>>143120065
>Kageyama will never return to DB
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>>143119965
That shit looks really similar to the Hero Academia OPening
>>
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>>143119915
Honestly, here is your (You). What a weak ass insult, only made me feel genuinely bad for you. Also, you are filtered. Bye.
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>>143120197
>What a weak ass insult
Not everyone can be as special as you, anon.
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>>143120073
>they like what I don't like
>this means it is objectively bad

The only objectively bad series in Dragon Ball is GT.
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>>143119761
Thanks
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>>143120073
>getting this buttblasted over japanese cartoons
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>>143120144

toei is crashing hard dumbfuck sales are average to below expectations
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No. DBS is still not good. It's fucking trash. The animation hasn't improved in the slightest, and there's better fanfiction than this shit.

But nostalgiafags will be biased and suck Toriyama's dick anyways.
>>
good parts in Super so far:

Beerus Whis in general
SSJ god goku vs Beerus
Champa Vadis in general
Vegeta vs Magetta
Vegata vs Cabba
Goku vs Hit
This whole arc so far
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>>143118121
Its SSJ v Normal, so I guess that somehow makes it even? Fuck I don't know.
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>>143119873
>Something is popular/viewed by many
>Thus it is good

You're a fucking idiot.
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>>143120237
Memes aside, I do genuinely agree that GT is worse than Super. It never gets as low as Super's lows, but it also never gets anywhere near as high as Super's highs. Goku vs. Hit is better than basically every fight in GT.
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>>143120341
welp i guess it's not for everyone


i'll keep watching based beerus every week
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>>143120182
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>>143120410
This.
Super is just right for me.
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>>143120410
>>143120341
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>>143120326
Just because you want it to be true, doesn't mean it is. Source on it, I dare you.
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>>143120354
>Vegeta vs Magetta
Yes
>Vegata vs Cabba
No
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>>143120462
I hated Dragonball Minus, but damn is Gine a cute
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>>143120462
>dat Gine
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>>143120498
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>>143120394
>Goku vs. Hit is better than basically every fight in GT.
A lot of DBS fights are, the only good GT fights were joke fights.
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>>143120410
No, a show for 5 year-olds made in a desperate attempt to milk cash out of a dying franchise isn't for anyone.

But you grew up with DB, so you're heavily biased and think it's better than the crap you watched as a kid.
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>>143120498
>>143120505
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Can't wait for all the homoerotic subtext and fanarts of Black Goku with everyone
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>>143120554
>>143120538
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>>143120555
thats hot. No homo
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>>143120516
but mom, raditz started it
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>>143120554
>dat messy hair
>only one messy spiky hair was available for female characters in XV
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>>143120472
The DragonBall Super manga Vol.1 has sold 30,000 copies and is at 25th position

Do you even keep up with this? It's on the front page of google search you Hmong
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>There are still people who think an adult male over 40 years old should sound like an old woman dying of lung cancer
>B-But muh inner child character trait
Does not make Goku immune to puberty. Either he's a eunuch and all his "children" are actually Vegetas, or dumbasses need to take off nostalgia goggles and realize how biology works.
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>>143120642
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>>143120593
>>143120554
>>143120516
>>143120462
I don't get what point is trying to be made here.
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>>143120392
>putting words in my mouth

i didn't say if i liked it or not, anon
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>>143120555
no need for waiting
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>>143120651
Yeah, yeah.
Keep the tears coming.
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>>143120133
>http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/06/19/fifth-dragon-ball-super-ending-theme-song-announced/
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>>143120519
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>>143120651
>Chichi's a fucking slut and got knocked up by Vegeta after Goku died
>Goten is actually Vegeta's son
This canon is so much better.
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>>143120519
That fight animation was movie tier but it only lasted 20 or less seconds. FUCKING TOEI REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>143120684
>It's in the top 10 rankings
>You're the minority
No, you just strongly implied it.
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>>143114531
>anim
I guess, I mean after all that sequence alone is better animated than the past 3 arcs.
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I WANT TO TAKE MATH LESSONS FROM PILAF
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>>143120671
>21 years later, you're still mad
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>>143120676
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>>143120519
And for the rest of the fight, we get long still frames, half minute-long dramatic stares, and art so lazy an autistic cripple could manage it.
>>143120453
>>143120642
>>143120073
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>>143120778
BOY, YOU ARE SO DARING!
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>>143120651
>biology
>Caring about muh realism in a anime
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>>143120642
I don't have enough pictures of Quattro to properly demonstrate how much I'm laughing at you. Look up franchise sales figures, please. I'll wait.
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>>143120815

So it's gonna be like this anon?
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>>143120815
>Flandre
>outside
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>>143120832
>purple AND blue hair
Are you happy now, Chris?
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>>143120697
What, you think he works for Toei? LOL

*1. 288,592 939,409 Hunter x Hunter Vol.33
*2. 278,997 280,862 Drifters Vol.5
*3. 234,250 526,646 One Punch-Man Vol.11
*4. 220,439 668,167 Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.20
*5. 174,499 175,326 Prison School Vol.21
*6. 144,901 144,901 Mix Vol.9
*7. 141,881 339,686 Boku no Hero Academia Vol.9
*8. 138,502 295,327 D.Gray-man Vol.25
*9. 104,660 264,097 World Trigger Vol.15
10. 103,864 103,864 Yowamushi Pedal Vol.45

11. *84,847 184,735 Nisekoi Vol.23
12. *76,032 182,212 Toriko Vol.39
13. *73,506 503,517 Kuroshitsuji Vol.23
14. *64,429 *64,429 Hataraku Saibou Vol.3
15. *61,632 495,298 Kimi ni Todoke Vol.26
16. *53,501 136,550 Bungou Stray Dogs Vol.10
17. *53,261 *53,261 Koi wa Ameagari no You ni Vol.5
18. *47,555 *48,044 Kenka Kagyou Vol.7
19. *46,729 *46,729 Saint Seiya: Next Dimension - Meiou Shinwa Vol.10
20. *40,985 *77,014 Vampire Knight: Memories Vol.1

Not even top fucking 20 and the anime does "well" at BEST. Lol.
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>>143120859
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>>143120885
Rick is that you?
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>>143120642
Even if it's Dragon Ball, I never expect V-Jump manga to sell well. V-Jump magazine sales are like less than a tenth of weekly magazines for obvious reasons. The amount of exposure the manga has is so much less than the anime. Super is definitely earning the franchise money for Toei and Bandai, which didn't happen with Kai until the movies.
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>>143120736
>fight animation was movie tier
Don't know about that, but hopefully Black vs Goku next episode is good. We need some of that Precure talent.
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>>143120914
>Nisekoi

My god, is that garbage still around?
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>>143120920
>>143120939
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>>143120945
yeah they need to put kevin's ass on DbSuper
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Hey guys, explain this to me.

When Trunks went back in time, how come he showed up in Super's timeline instead of further back in his own past?
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>>143121097
See >>143118564
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>>143121097
He's probably jumping to another timeline, not his own timeline.
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>>143121097
He's most likely older, considering Future Bulma looks older and he's been living with Mai for a while.
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>>143120824
Here are the weekly Blu-ray and DVD rankings for June 6 -12 Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles
DVD
*1. 10,080 *10,080 Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin Vol.3
*2. *1,129 *13,639 Girls und Panzer der Film
*3. **,959 *27,428 Osomatsu-san Vol.5 Limited Edition
*4. **,657 ***,657 Kiznaiver Vol.1 Limited Edition
*5. **,647 ***,647 Divine Gate Vol.3
*6. **,641 ***,641 Naruto: Shippuuden "Jiraiya Ninpouchou: Naruto Gouketsu Monogatari" Vol.1
*7. **,480 *60,014 Tonari no Totoro
*8. **,411 ***,411 Tonkatsu DJ Agetarou Vol.1
*9. **,347 ***,347 Tonkatsu DJ Agetarou Vol.2
10. **,346 ***,346 Tonkatsu DJ Agetarou Vol.3
11. **,339 ***,339 World Trigger Vol.16
12. **,263 *30,425 Bakemono no Ko
13. **,259 **1,413 Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?? Vol.6 Limited Edition
14. **,206 *32,601 Osomatsu-san Vol.4 Limited Edition
15. **,184 **7,535 Doukyuusei Limited Edition
16. **,160 *10,776 Sore Ike! Anpanman: Mija to Mahou no Lamp
17. **,147 *36,917 Osomatsu-san Vol.3 Limited Edition
18. **,145 **2,102 Diabolik Lovers More,Blood Vol.3 Limited Edition
19. **,136 **1,012 One Piece 17th Season "Dressrosa" Vol.24
20. **,136 *16,264 Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin Vol.2
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>>143121097
I swear it was mentioned that the time machine had the present timeline saved to it so Trunks could go back there at any time.
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>>143120939
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>>143121097

For the same reason Trunks went back to the current timeline multiple times after returning to the future. He has the time coordinates or some shit.
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>>143121235
Here >>143120931
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>>143120945
Toei should seriously be ashamed of themselves.

Granted with Super's poor sales, it's not surprising they can't afford decent animation.
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Blu-ray
*1. 38,571 *38,571 Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin Vol.3
*2. *5,790 181,487 Girls und Panzer der Film Special Limited Edition
*3. *1,269 **8,863 Gochuumon wa Usagi desu ka?? Vol.6 Limited Edition
*4. **,810 *59,409 Girls und Panzer: Kore ga Hontou no Anzio-sen desu!
*5. **,776 ***,776 World Trigger
*6. **,665 *23,634 Osomatsu-san Vol.5 Limited Edition
*7. **,659 ***,659 Kiznaiver Vol.1
*8. **,555 **8,243 Girls und Panzer der Film
*9. **,547 *11,395 Girls und Panzer Vol.1 Special Limited Edition
10. **,535 *10,293 Girls und Panzer Vol.2 Special Limited Edition
11. **,522 ***,522 Divine Gate Vol.3
12. **,507 **9,127 Girls und Panzer Vol.6 Special Limited Edition
13. **,502 **9,810 Girls und Panzer Vol.3 Special Limited Edition
14. **,499 **9,118 Girls und Panzer Vol.5 Special Limited Edition
15. **,487 **8,952 Girls und Panzer Vol.4 Special Limited Edition
16. **,328 *22,890 Strike Witches: Operation Victory Arrow Vol.1 Limited Edition
(cut-off 328)

RIP TOEI, kid. your anime is Super trash, get it? Lol :^)
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>>143121191
>>143121258
>>143121304
So he can just pick a different timeline to go to? Seems like he has more than a time machine if he's able to jump to alternate realities.
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>>143121343
>afford decent animation.
People are still this dumb?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hHM-8QtmUE
DRAGON BALL SUPER - What's the Issue?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjXt4Fg9664
Does Budget Affect Animation Quality?
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>>143121395
You're a riot. >>143120931
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>>143121499
Pretty much yes. The Time Machine doesn't really rewind time, It runs on multiverse theory after all, This would be why Whis being capable of turning time back by 5 minutes is so incredible of a feat, He can literally control time instead of just going to another reality or freezing it.
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>>143114696

This.

Nothing fucking happened and these fucking Trunks shills are already cumming.
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>>143121235
Who the fuck expects disc sales from Dragon Ball TV shows? No one expects that from One Piece. They're worldwide franchises with buttloads of merchandise and video games. That's what makes money.
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>>143115098

it airs on sundays too dumbfuck
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>>143121395
>RIP TOEI
>he actually thinks this
Just by the product placements and the sales of both BOG and Resurrection F.

All the things you listed there gets out saled and BTFO by Super alone.

Anyone who thinks Toei isn't printing money milking this series is just dumb.
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>>143121687
>Nothing fucking happened
speed watcher please go
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>>143118818
underrated post
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TRUNKS IS SO SEXY
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>>143121933
Mai? Did your ghost get sucked into the Internet?
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>>143118917
>The first Masenko of the series is done by Future Trunks.

I'm glad somebody got to use it. Gohan should have done it during the big henchmen fight in the RoF arc (there's a section where everyone is using their signature moves), but I think the animation budget left him with random Ki blasts.
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>>143121933
He looks best when he's crying and suffering
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>>143122009
No bully Trunks
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Someone add Gohan and Trunks to this
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>>143122004
>animation budget
Retard pls
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>>143122096
Exact same sequence of random ki blasts is used when Shisami charges at him.
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>>143122004
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>>143122091
>Gine will never be in super
>Gine will never be in Xenoverse 2 or 3
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>>143122118

>>143121516
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>>143122163

She'll be in the DB Fusions game, anon. It'll be okay.
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>>143115093
fucking grade A post
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>>143114531
Depends on if Trunks can stay relevant or if Goku/Vegeta solve everything again because they're so ridiculously beyond everyone else in power at this point that the other fighters may as well not even exist. Super Saiyan God & Blueper Saiyan was a mistake.
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>>143120914
What are you even doing with these numbers? These are from this month, and volume 1 of Super came out in April. I'm not saying the Super manga is or will sell well, but those numbers are irrelevant to the time frame of when the Super manga would have had the best chance to even rank.
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Next episode is tomorrow yes?
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>>143122163
Gine is a ridiculous character that never should have been created and the manga she appears in sucks ass.
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>>143117145
THIS, absolutely patrician taste
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>>143115216
No, it was complete dogshit.
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>>143117145
Good taste.
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>>143122339

I'll suck your ass.
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>>143116985
hes absolutely right
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>>143122390
No.18 and Bulma look so cute there, I kind of wished we could have seen this in the manga if even for a panel
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>>143122339
>Goku's mother is a ridiculous character
I should punch in your throat you stupid cunt blaster
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Can someone summarize what has happened so far in the arc. Been on a trip since it started so im curious to see how it is.
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>>143122496
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>>143122508
>Goku black beats boxers
>Boxers gets in his time capsule
>Boxer attacks goku
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>>143122508
Future Trunks suffers without end.
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>>143114531

Dragon Ball is for fucking children fag
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>>143122508

Black kills the last of what Trunks cares for right in front of him.
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>>143122390
Because it totally makes sense that Bardock would "fall in love" and have kids with some wimpy, gentle woman who couldn't fight?

Please, that's such bullshit. Gine's personality makes no sense whatsoever and contradicts the original manga too much. Remember what Vegeta said to Nappa before killing him? He said that a saiyan who can't fight is worthless. Remember how Raditz told Goku that a real warrior like himself has no problem with killing his own brother.

I never got the impression that Raditz's and Goku's mother was any better than the rest of the saiyans, let alone "nice" or "gentle" when I watched the anime and read the original manga.

The problem is that Toriyama is a shitty writer who doesn't know what he's doing anymore. Goku's mother should NOT be special or any different than the rest of the saiyans. "The-parents-were-special-too" is one of the lamest cliches in fiction.
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>>143122390
Why don't they spell their names correctly?
It's bad enough they drew that shit
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>>143117145
The funny thing is Dragon Ball's filler and continuity changes are actually better than some parts of the original manga. Ultra Divine Water especially was far better done in the anime, for the example.
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>>143122808

No idea, spic drew it though
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Anyone else rewatch Battle of Gods just for the moment when this song kicks in from time to time?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4IfEWhsdow

It just feels so right.
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>>143122980
Yep great scene, I love insert songs during anime fights. The Goku vs Hit one was ok, both the song and animation weren't as strong.
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>>143116835
But the fights in super suck...... Z had wayyyyy better fights.
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>>143121694
This honestly
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>>143116430
Broly is not "apeshit". Actually watch the first two movies instead of taking what you know from video games. He's in full control of what the fuck he's doing.
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>>143122806
Bardock is the only Saiyan known to give a shit about other people. I think that it makes sense that he would fall in love for someone who can't comfortably bring themselves to harm another person. She's probably the only one who can relate to him caring about others.
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> Accomplish our goal
> even if that means throwing everything else AWAY

Why Future Trunks cant have nice things? Being that fucker is sadness, suffering and sorrow.
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>>143114531
>So now we can all agree that this shit is finally good? It only took 3 Arcs but things are looking brighter for the first time........For now

I've been enjoying Super since the tournament arc started, but then I've made a point to abandon these threads, because it's just an echo-chamber of people bitching about shit that DB/Z/GT did and being proud about spreading misinformation, ignorance and empty bitching.

The only thing worse is paying attention to weekly episode reviews from anyone in the DB community; to the point I only follow Herms twitter when the on the weekend when the episode are live-streamed.

On its own, Super is fine for what it is, though Toei seemed hellbent on fucking it up royally, but compared to Dragon Ball, as a franchise; eh.
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>>143123678

You'd think that after saving his world from the Androids and Cell, things would turn out alright for him. No such luck. His timeline got Blacked.
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>>143123678

Where is the rest of humanity in his timeline?
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>>143122508
pic related
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Which episode is the begining of the tournament?
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>>143123846
dead
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>>143123846

The Androids killed most, Black took care of the rest. I'd say endangered if not extinct.
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>>143123846
>Where is the rest of humanity in his timeline?

Dead. It's likely what Black was doing for the year it took to build up the fuel Trunks used to go back in time.

Hell, Trunks probably purposely ran form city to city across the planet to keep Black distracted enough for Bulma to finish making enough fuel, since based on Trunks' and Bulma's conversation it seemed like he hadn't seen her in a while.
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>>143123678
>lose his friends
>lose his master
>loses his mother
>loses waifu
>loses his gains
he can't have nice things
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>>143123945
>Hell, Trunks probably purposely ran form city to city across the planet to keep Black distracted enough for Bulma to finish making enough fuel, since based on Trunks' and Bulma's conversation it seemed like he hadn't seen her in a while.
Nah, they hadn't seen each other because he lives with Mai and couldn't give himself the luxury of making a visit and guide Black to Bulma's place before she finished making the fuel.
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>>143124089
he can get his gains back even gohan can
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>>143122009
Fuck off Toriyama
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>>143124089
Mai is still alive, though.
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Next episode will probably end when Goku Black appears.
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>watching super
>future trunk shows up
>blue hair wtf
>they even show him in DBZ flashbacks with purple hair
>episode wildy jumps back and forth between horrible post apocolyptic world with future Bulma being blasted into dust by new badguy, and goku and vegeta acting silly and eating ramen with cat god

Man, Super is kinda shitty. Theres no actual threat ever, and no urgency to anything at all. They made it way too silly.
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>>143124089
He looks better slender
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>>143124304
No they can't because Toriyama has forgotten how to draw gains.
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>>143124577
Well Dragonball was a bit silly too, but I do agree, there is a bit too much silliness, even Dragonball could stay serious when moments demanded. Also yeah, I don't get why they showed Trunks with different colored hair in the flashback here, people are assuming it's either due to age or "this way you'll recognize me if I time travel back instead of confusing me with the current Trunks" which is a silly reason, he could just talk about the Cell Games.
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>>143124586
>looks better slender

no
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>>143123877
please respond
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>>143124577
>they show them eating ramen
>trunks eat some cat food
I dont know if they its intentional that they comparing trunks shitty or not

fucking super man
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>>143124657
>posting Trunks during his hideous long haired phase
Come on, nigga
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>your taste is shit because you don't like what I like

/a/ truly is autistic. spergs like these should go back to their degenerate waifu threads.
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>>143119875
GO GO GO GO GO GO GAL-O SENGEN!
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>>143124672
The arc starts on ep 28. The actual tournament starts on ep 32.
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>>143124756
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>>143124657
Man I really don't like that movie. Trunks is so 90s; it's out of place.
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>>143124782
Welcome to 4chan, enjoy your stay newfag.
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>>143124790
Egh, that art on his muscles looks pretty bad there.
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>>143124909
Just old DBZ man
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>>143124089

>sees in the past how a new god is appointed and the dragonballs re-activated
>doesn't do anything in his timeline

he deserves the suffering
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>>143123678
huh
i wonder
maybe the real purpose of the time travel is not just to become strong enough to beat black (or perhaps to lead him away so others can defeat him) but if it was to find out where new namek is so they can have the dragon balls
then it would make sense that bulma would say it's okay that everything is thrown away, as long as they accomplish their goals, since they could bring it back
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>>143124790
Better at least
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>>143125023

>maybe the real purpose of the time travel is not just to become strong enough to beat black

Blacks going to somehow go back in time to follow trunks and end up confronting the whole gang in the "present".

Didnt all the time travel shenanagins with Cell create a second time machine thats still in the future?
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>>143125063
No. The time machine Cell used is in the main timeline, not in the alternate timeline where Black is. The episode preview shows Black confronting them, but the title of the next episode is "a message from the future", so that ring of his might not actually allow him to physically go there. He'll probably just taunt them and they'll go fight him by using the fuel that Bulma had been making a few episodes ago.
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>>143125063
Yep there are 3 timelines.

The one Cell came from.
The one Future Trunks came from.
The one we know.

I wonder if Black Goku exists in the timeline Cell came from.
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>>143115093
Kek
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>>143114531
>Tfw its been a long time since ive been excited for a show
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>>143125203
I thought he would end up having at least something to do with the six universes that Zeno destroyed. I don't see why else Whis would have brought that up.
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>>143114696
Really? I for one found that arc boring and also not interested at a future arena arc. It just introduce some weird alien again for a comedic value and not interesting fight.
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>Current Trumks reaction to Future Trunks stealing all of his parents love and attention
kek, now I gotta see how he reacts to better him stealing his waifu too

Though I guess it is kinda sad that he doesn't about how his alternate self saved him and his mom back when Vegeta was too much of a cunt to do it himself
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>>143125716
Can one cuck oneself?
>>
>mai finds future trunks really cool and handsome, being that shes actually pretty old

>young trunks gets cucked by future trunks
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Bulma is the best character of Super.
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>Black will have a black super saiyan transofrmation
>Goku will have a white super saiyan transformation
>Yin and Yang

Pottery
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Why wasn't Trunks able to become SSJ2 due to the death of Bulma and Mai? Seems like an important enough rage moment to push him over that edge at least.
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>>143125928

Lack of energy from a diet of dog food.
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>trunks goes super blue, but because he has blue hair now his hair just glows now and its hardly a change at all
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>>143125928
Because he unlocked his sharingan instead.
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>>143125928
Who said he didn't? His hair is a little different in SSJ despite having the same hairstyle he's always had.
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>Gohan was cute as a kid, except for the unfortunate bowlcut incident
>grew up really dull looking come Buu arc
Shame he took haircut advice from Yamcha
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>>143125928
He did
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>>143122874
Don't talk shit about us.
This guy did it: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=56333314
and he is not spic.
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>>143125928
ii think it would have been way better if he had reached ssj3

i would actually be scared of black if he had defeated a ssj3 trunks

but yeah i guess it is impossible to reach this level with dog food
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>>143126126
Oh well we still have Time Patrol Trunks whose at SSJ3 levels during base levels considering what he's able to do.
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>>143116985
>nobody remembers fights from DB
Besides the fact that people old enough do, DB wasn't all about the fights, the team adventured actually and encountered interesting, cool and weird places and characters instead of always being in generic city, canyons or sky.
Hell, I'd venture to say the fights were more interesting on average because nobody was flying around so there was footwork/choreography and goku had to resort to being a little shit by using dirty tricks, low blows and his tail. fighters didn't just disappear and reappear while 2 frames of animation are repeated and you're told they're fighting, you just can't see it. It was a mystical martial arts adventure where mermaids, dinosaurs, robots and bandits were common fare. But hey, if the fights weren't epic enough the whole thing was bad.
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>>143126045
ssj 2 has a lightning aura
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>>143126307
forgot jif
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>>143126372
Lookin a little QUALITY there Goham

Something wrong with your fist

and hair
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>>143126372
Not always.
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>>143114531
Did Trunks just pull a spinzaku kick?
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>>143116489
>Tenkaichi gameplay
>Fighting game

Choose one.
If they want to go with the 3D movement button masher, they may as well go all the way and make it an action RPG - just tone down on the damn grind.
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>>143126404
that's because QUALITY
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>>143126447

>platinum will never do a dragonball game

fug
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>>143118712
kek,get your shit together Chris
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>>143126447
Honestly Dimps needs to pair up with CyberConnect2, specifically the team that did the Ultimate Ninja Storm series. They'd do fucking wonders for DBZ.
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>>143119644
Broly driving episode
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I'm not a gohan fag but I don't like how much of the short end of the stick he got after the build up to being mystic gohan.

>Gohan realizes that he's even fucking useless.
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Who created the Super dragon balls?
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>>143126703

He went back and became a family man. Just give up already, anon.
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>>143126759
Super namekians
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>>143126759
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>>143126703
>A character we thought we would never see again is more relevant than Gohan
>Literally Pilaf is more relevant than Gohan

I know the Japs always hated change and never liked Gohan transitioning to be the hero and were always demanding Goku, but I can't imagine them hating him this much. Then again Japs always have shit taste and hold those shit tastes forever, just look at Space Jesus.
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>>143126784
I wonder what Super would be like if Toriyama pandered to the west's view on characters. We'd probably have Gohan and Vegeta doing shit and end up with more gains for everybody instead of this weird slender look for half the characters.
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>>143114531
art is still bad, lacks cohesion and overall vibe that old dbz had
music is still bad
>>143114696
that one episode where vegeta's fight had super slick animation was great
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>>143126784
Its toei and shonen jump fault
>>143126782
DELETE THIS
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>>143126703
In the end he simply values being a scholar and his family more than getting huge, and being some big hero of the galaxy
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>>143126781

OH MY OTHER ME SHUT UP!
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>>143126813
It would be awful. Look no further than Dragon Ball "Vegito is mai husbando, Bra is mai waifu, KING COLD EDGE MODE EXTREME" Multiverse.

To say nothing of how they literally made a Goku's mom that's worse than Gine, by making her one of the biggest mary sues of the story. Oh, and a dip into even more pointless mini arcs. Boy I loved seeing OCville with Goku and Raditz for a month.
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>>143126836
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>>143126873
the art looks decent
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>>143124756
>long-haired Trunks
>hideous
He was sexy as fuck tbqh and his super saiyan form looked even cooler with long hair
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>>143126873
Well I meant more based on "The west likes Vegeta more than Goku for the most part compared to Japan." Not literally going into fanfic tier, like it'd be ultimately the same story, it'd just give more to characters that deserve it, like the west loves Gohan, we'd get to see more Gohan for instance, we'd just get to see more of that, but he could still be like "No Vegito/Gogeta" or revived dead characters beyond Frieza.

Like Universe Tournament wise, could have just been Vegeta, Gohan, Goku, Piccolo, and Future Trunks or some shit, ya know? Not like SSJ17 Goku vs. SSJWHITE Cell and Broly Fusion, CELERY!
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>>143126916
I never cared for long haired Trunks myself, especially his SSJ form, I thought it was too much, it looked great with the ponytail though, which didn't last long.

Ultimately I'm a fan of his short hair SSJ form the best. I don't know how I feel about the Super version of it though, it's like they forgot what it looked like and just guessed. It's like weirdly lower and the two strings are full on hair pieces. I don't know, just odd to me.
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>>143126908
Most of the time.

But suddenly you get a "special" that dips it down to webcomic tier at best, or "Worse than Episode 5" tier at worse. Bojack haunts my nightmares to this day.
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>>143126976
That's fucking amazing, even I can emulate Toriyama's style leagues better than that and I'm not even that great at drawing, at least I don't think so.
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>>143126941
>Vegeta, Gohan, Goku, Piccolo, and Future Trunks
Too many Saiyans. I'd have preferred it if Buu actually got to fight.
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>>143127005
>Too many Saiyans
>Dragonball

I feel like that's an oxymoron, but I do agree.

Should have brought Tien in. Imagine Hit vs. Paradox Beam bullshit.
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>>143127000
I'm not joking when I say this shit is worse than Episode 5. At least the ugly blobs there were unintentionally funny at times.

This is just awful.
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GT is better, though.
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>>143126873
>>143126976
Just skip filler arc, or read them fast after the arc is completed, that's what I do.

>Bojack haunts my nightmares to this day.
Salagir said if filler is removed entirely, the main artist can't keep up with 1 page per three days schedule.

At least we're back to Bra vs Cold now.
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>>143127044
Vegeta's facial expression reminds me of that fucking animation on youtube about him being a proctologist.
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>>143127069
I feel like 1 page per 3 days is stupidly doable, even with a job and a life.
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>>143127092
Well anon do you want this >>143126976
or >>143126873?
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>>143127129
I don't, but I still feel good art is doable in for 1 page/3 days.
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>>143127069
I'm aware, and it still doesn't excuse shit like the Bojack special. That was awful, and specials after it have proven that it didn't need to happen. Even the recent special with its webcomic art on planet Whocares didn't look that awful.

And I still think that King Cold 6th form shit is worse than even Bling Mode Frieza, and what irritates me the most about it is how it's going to sell just how cool and awesome Salagir's annoying waifu is.
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>>143116924
I want to stuff beerus samas holes.
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>>143127039
Again, just... Majin Buu! Hello, right there! I get why they did that joke but come on, let him fight!
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>>143123250
Gotta love Naotoshi Shidas animation
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Ten bucks says that the story behind Goku Black isnt really all that deep or interesting.
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>Multiverse
Oh good I get to post this again

http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-1116.html

Read the comments.
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>>143127285
I'm still bothered by the CGI parts of the fights, looks so out of place
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>The universes are paired up in a way that two pair universes add up to 12
>But there were actually 18 universes

So.....wait, how did those extra 6 universes pair up.
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>>143118196

Because she was communicating with him and Future Bulma this entire time. Same reason she was suddenly shown working on the blue fluid that looks exactly like fuel for the time machine just a few episodes before this arc. She knew he would arrive. The blue hair is either dyed or it turned blue because he aged, but either way Bulma knew about it beforehand.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/03/12/official-revival-of-f-blog-37-days-left/
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>>143127335
Triplets.
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>>143127335
3 Universes are tied together.

6 and 7's would be 13.
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>>143127383
That seems unnecessarily confusing on Zenohs part. Almost like he knew he would destroy those extra 6 universes so it wouldnt be weird.
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>>143127321
>Come on DBM Team... just having a single cameo would have been better than this. I don't think we wanted to see our characters get turned into worthless villains to be beaten up by the weakest of DBZ characters. I mean, I would think any kind of Mage/Pokemon would have a chance at beating Videl in a 4v1 scenario. Guess they didn't give him any powers whatsoever to be on par with the other 3 human characters. Would have been a ton cooler to see him assist Babidi in Magic or have helped the Z-fighters in someway and not been Majin'd at all.

>@That Guy
>Yeah, I would have had second thoughts of entering this contest had I known this was their intention lmfao


>@Sintético (Below)

>If it was at least by a stronger character =/

>@Argelios (Below)
>I don't think thats how contests work

>The Delphox has powers of his own and is a fighter, but, I don't think the DBM team decided to give him those powers based on how he's been portrayed so far. Videl is tough, but she wouldn't be able to beat his magic if he had actually used it.

>Anyways, most of us are just dissapointed because of how they were all pretty much set up to fail while anyone who didn't win is having a feild day with it, and it's not even the characters' fault to begin with. We just expected to have our characters innocently be in the crowds , but they get mind controlled into being beaten up. Kinda sucks =/

>Feels like being Contest Losers rather than Contest winners

is this real
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>>143127321
>Okay I think now I'm kinda glad that I didn't win the contest to have my OC in the comic because I would've been pissed to have him both under Majin control and to have him lose to Videl seeing as my character is to put it bluntly is an extremely powerful genetically engineered Saiyan that is kinda like Cell and far outclasses Beerus-sama. Yeah I know he's a Mary Sue, but I made him that way on purpose. Don't get me wrong, I don't just go around rekking everyone I come across with him. He has a nemesis that is well himself from a Shattered Glass Universe and the mechanics of my RP make it to where he gets nerfed to be somewhere in the same power Tier as the strongest warrior in whatever Universe he is within.

>The interesting thing about him is that he was trained by Whis and Beerus from a Universe where they make their counterparts from DragonBall Super look like Hercule Satan when compared to Goku. The thing is that he actually trained under the strongest Beerus and Whis of all of the Beerus's and Whis's in the entire DB SubMultiverse. Anyways enough bragging about my ridiculously OP RP character, if any of you are text-based RPers and wish to participate in my RP you can contact find it here: My TSSA Multiverse Crossover RP

>My username on that site is Kor Saiyajinkami if you decide you might want to join and want to contact me on the site where my RP is.
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>>143127321
>>143127440
>@Punished "Venom" Snake (the post below this post; had to do it this way since DBM was preventing me from posting to avoid "flooding)
>That really doesn't sound fun to RP at all.

>Trust me tho it is. Like I said he's nerfed down to whatever level of power that the Universe he occupies contains for their strongest tier of power. It's not just him; it's anyone who has an OP character that surpasses the highest power tier for the Universe the RP is within. Tho since having everyone in the same power tier as him nerfed down to that level might make the RP boring when we get to final battle for the first arc, I've actually been thinking I might change that mechanic to where it's to where the combination of power between all the good guys and bad guys must be about equal after the game mechanics nerf them down for a certain Universe or something along those lines. And before you discount it for not being a great RP, you should check it out. We have a very interesting variety of characters and the story is pretty interesting so far. Not to mention technically most of the characters in it are in the same tier of power that he is so it's not like he's insanely OP in comparison to the other RPers' characters. Currently it's taking place in a Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood Universe about 10 years after the end of the manga/anime.
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>>143118217
Wasn't this a plot for GT? A bunch of dead villains come back for a while

What the fuck would SS Nappa even look like he has no fucking hair
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>>143127417
More than likely honestly. Makes you wonder what #13 was though and how it matched up with 6/7. Maybe it was more akin to the one we know as opposed to like Cabba's lanky manlet ass.
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>>143127461
Obviously his handlebar gets spiky, and SSJ3 Nappa is him with a long viking beard.
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>>143127383
Uh, they ALL add up to 13. So that would mean universe 13 was every universes third pair.
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>>143127530
1, 12, 18
2, 11, 17
3, 10, 16
4, 9, 15
5, 8, 14
6, 7, 13
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>>143127461
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>>143127556
Thats stupid. Why would he name them like that and why would he conveniently destroy only the universes that are numbered weird.
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>>143127566
And then you realized Nappa was just Recoome/16.
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>>143127566

Dairy Queen!
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>>143127582
Well it's either that or

1, 12, 13,
2, 11, 14
3, 10, 15
4, 9, 16
5, 8, 17
6, 7, 18

That way it goes up and down in order, but it'd be odd for 1/12's counter to be 13.

Also it's convenient because Toriyama doesn't think things through.
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>>143126759
Super namekians

Picolo is gonna fuse with the oldest one and be someone equal with GOku and vegeta
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>>143127335
videl was so badass back days

Now she is just...
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>>143127774

All the badass females lost it. At least Future Mai died before she lost her epic gun skills.
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>>143127796
18 seem to still have it. Must be being off-screen reduces the nerf effect.

Come to think of it, both Ox King and Yajirobe is off-screen most of the time so that kinda explains while they still have their gains.
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>>143127774
Am I the only one that had wished Videl could have gotten strong and become a much better fighter when Gohan was first teaching her and it first airing years ago?
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>>143127845
There isn't a point really. Krillin and yamcha were way stronger in the tournaments.
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>tfw Goten is so irrelevant that Chichi is turning him to Gohan 2.0 and people don't want him to be Black
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>>143127774
You can't beat the dick anon. Even if it's wimpy Gohan dick.
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>>143127867
True, I just wish we had had another female that had become decently strong that wasn't just "Wife Rage". It'd have been nice, even if she was only on like Raditz levels by the end of it at best.
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>>143127774
>>143127796

All the old badasses lost it. Even towards the end of DBZ it was the same way.

Its literally just the "Goku and Vegeta Show!" now because nobody else matters at all.
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>>143127910
He's been irrelevant since the end of Dragonball despite his gains.
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>>143127796
>>143127956
If anything, Bulma is probably the only female who benefitted by the "Goku and Vegeta Show" - she still got to go on a wacky space adventure, gets to invent shit, and generally has a role in the story.

Now if she pops out Bra it'll be a different story all together, unless the writers decide that she can still do things while holding a baby. Which, it can happen like in the Cell Saga, I would wager she'll end up like Videl.
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>>143117030
This, the angry eyes just make him look like a hot-blooded bro.
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>>143116464

This animation is terrible. Looks like it hasn't even been inbetweened. So robotic and stiff. Only positive is that it's on-model, and that doesn't mean much when the current character designs are ass.
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>>143119279

>zooming in

Fuck off.
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>>143119279
>being so autistic that you want to kill people who like something that you dont like
/a/, everyone.
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>>143119541
/a/ has many more legitimate autists than /v/, though.
>>
So why does Goku go SSJ? Seeing how fucking weak Frost is compared to Freeza prior to his golden transformation, it's clear that SSJ Goku vs Frost is way weaker than base Goku vs Freeza. So did he just go SSJ to force Freeza to transform without showing nearly his full power?

And would you say that SSB is nowhere near 50x as powerful as base like SSJ used to be? I guess the idea is that he's mastered the saiyan form and the God power so the multiplier is considerably less?
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>>143122496
Honestly, not everyone related to the main character is relevant nor are they needed. Bardock was ok, but Gine was completely unnecessary.
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>>143127956
Future Bulma was the fucking best.
>That hair
>That little wrinkle
My fucking dick
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>>143129567
Force frost to transform*
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>>143129567
Who fucking knows. SSG and SSB are really lame imo. Their isn't really a multiplier, I don't think, since there is no power level. He's just strong as the plot demands at the moment.
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>>143129772
Just makes no sense why he'd transform to SSJ when clearly he was still weaker than he can be at base.
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