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New macross episode is out.
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>NUNS are going to kill the seakitties

GAS EARTHLINGS.
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Shit, I forgot about Kuromukuro until I read that.
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>[gg]
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Fuck Kuromukurofags.
Delta always comes first
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>>143073814
>learning some dumb language like japanese in order to understand some gook's pencil sketches of cute girls
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Oh shit
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I'm a Miragefag but Freyja is a qt
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>>143073831

but kuromukuro is good faggot.
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>>143073862
She really is, what a great selection of girls.
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>>143073257
Wait, gg have more than one translators?
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TELL ME ABOUT FREYJA
WHY IS SHE so cute?
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Old thread >>143052425
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>>143073831
pls don't bully the other good show of this season
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>>143073911
IF SHE TAKES OFF HER RUNE, WILL SHE DIE?
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Spaghetti everywhere
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>>143073977
Let's be serious here, I wanted to like Kuromukuro but it's really dropped the ball recently.
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>>143074028
>>143073977
>>143073881
>>143073831
STOP
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>>143073995
MY HEART
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>>143074028
Not sure what are you talking about, episode 11 is pretty awesome.
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>>143074028
Both it and delta have been really meandering lately desu
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>>143073995
>Freyja only getting this very late
>Mirage already has 3 instances of the same scene

Freyja is truly the loser
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>>143074106
I agree.

Is this the first season without good animu?
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>>143074185
Freyja only had one scene with this and it was a joke.

In this one, they are talking serious stuff.
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Anon said Ernest won 100 battles and lost 8. Who's right?
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>>143074400
How the hell is he still in command if he lost that much?
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>>143074433
they're a PMC and don't have anyone better
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>>143074433
Why is Arad still the captain when he is so useless? Why didn't Lady M fire Chuck and Mirage and hire some good pilots? Why is Kaname and old hag of death and doom?
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Why their names are Freyja and Mirage again?
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>>143074400
God damn Delta is more incompetent than I though
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>He's known as the commander who loses 100 out of 100 battles
Holy shit why would anyone hire him? Even Quarter's captain sounds way better than this guy.
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Mirage is a retard
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>>143074400
Sounds like a mistranslation.
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>>143074400
>gg
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>Battle Frontier is barely discernable at the front of Frontier
>Battle 7 is barely discernable at the front of 7
>Elysion is fucking huge compared to Elysion Island
What the fuck?
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Was Messer the only competent one with the Walkure?
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>>143074400
he lost 8 of 100 faggots
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>>143074695
Delta is set in a very backwater system
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>>143074400
Fucking gg speedsubbing I swear.
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>>143074695
My guess is that a completely different Macross-class and a completely different main island were the core of the exploration fleet that came to Ragna. After dropping a load of people off on Ragna, the fleet's Macross-class and main island set off in forth of more planets, leaving behind one of the smaller residential islands and hiring Chaos to provide security.
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>>143074185
I'm serious and don't want to shitpost ok? But this scene have more romantic tension than other Mirage's scene.
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>>143074737
>>143074791
I just assume they fucked up with scaling and design, personally. Artistic license and all that. I'm just nitpicking for fun.
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>episode 12 subs have almost 3K downloads
Are there really this many watching?
I was convinced it was only like 150 of us here on /a/ and /m/ total
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>>143074901
Check nyaa, Delta and Kuromukuro both have stable 25-35k downloads.
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>>143074901
You forget the normalfags, animesuki, reddit and maybe MAL.
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>>143074901
There are anime websites outside of 4chan anon
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>Protoculture ship is even bigger than a Macross class ship
Jesus.
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I miss Messer.
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>>143074871
Just a cap from when it's actually to scale.

>>143074901
Although it isn't as popular as it was with Frontier, it's still one of the most popular shows around, Anon.

That said, with my experience of people offsite, it gets talked about a whole lot less than the other flavours of the season, like Kabaneri, Re:zero, Kiznaiver, etc.

>>143075009
I can't wait for it to eat a Daedelus attack. Still surprised that the Elysion has been deployed this early.
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What is wrong with the seagulls at 15:24?
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>>143075009
Macrosses are small.
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>>143074986
>>143075041

I forgot, I've been here way too long

Then again I never really saw people talking about it,I guess its been over shadowed by other shows, but I don't really mind that.
I just forget how many people exist on the internet sometimes
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>>143075009
I thought Elysium was a quarter class?

Also if you think the protoculture ship was huge you should see the stuff they had in Macross II
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>>143073257
>New macross episode
>Implying this shit is Macross and not in fact a horrible fever dream by an idolmaster fan.
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>>143075141
AND
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>>143075136
Judging by how it towers those ragnan mountains I always assume Elysion is a full Macross class ship.
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>tfw only 19 episodes of Macross 7 left for me to watch
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>>143075192
WE
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nowhere near enough Mikumo, 6/10 episode
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>>143075222
>>143075192
Are we going somewhere with this?
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>>143075198
It doesn't seem like a fully sized macross to me, even if it's bigger than a quarter the way the VFs look in comparison to it feels small
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>>143075222
AT
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>>143075247
>>143075222
AT
if these threads go turned into a sitcom this would be the stupid phrase at the end of each episode
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>>143075100
It still gets overshadowed by other shows in just about every other English speaking community. It's still like the 3rd or 4th most popular show this season. A part of it is probably down to Western communities still being adverse to anything that isn't edgy and Macross for the most part, still has two things that Western anime fans tend to dislike, romance and idols. With idols being more prominent, it goes without saying.

>>143075136
Elysion is a full Macross as far as I know.

>>143075222
AT

>>143075253
I just think they've fucked up the scaling.
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>>143075222
AT
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>>143075136
>I thought Elysium was a quarter class?
It isn't. The Elysion is its own class and is over 800m tall. Its twice as big as a Quarter class but around half of a Battle class.
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>>143075299
>>143075303
>>143075307
>14
>18
>19
ROBOTECHX
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>>143075141
Fuck off newfag.
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>>143075299
>>143075303
>>143075307
>>143075312
>they told me 4chan wasn't a hivemind
Are we vajr/a/ now?
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>>143075320
>It isn't. The Elysion is its own class and is over 800m tall. Its twice as big as a Quarter class but around half of a Battle class.
Oh, now this makes some more sense.
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Why is he so perfect?
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>>143075382
>Are we vajr/a/ now?
Gas the space insects. Space war now.
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What's her name /a/
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>>143075320
Cool,I felt like it was somewhere in that range after seeing the launch sequence on its arm
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>It takes 12 episodes for the Macross to launch
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>>143075382
4chan is only a hivemind when it comes to dankposting
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I don't care how or where but Reina just must die and leave Makina on her own, for fucks sake.

Makina deserves to find a mate before this series end.
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>>143075437
Redshirt.

All these reinforcements are going to job harder than Delta.
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>>143075347
.COM
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>>143075412
Hayate is a natural player
>You've got me.
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>>143075437
Delta 5
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>>143075452
I'm still surprised that it was so soon.

Figures that it's folded straight into no action.
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>>143075437
Chris Kake

>>143075452
>tfw the Elysium is going to get rekt to some degree against the protoculture ship
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>>143075508

you were supposed to say 'ALL'
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>Challenges Hayate to a revenge duel
>Then sideways glance towards Freyja

Is she challenging Freyja as well?
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What did she mean by this?
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>>143075528
Honestly, I can't see it doing anything but jobbing.

That said, Frontier's Quarter never jobbed.
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>>143075513
Freiya was so surprised when he said "I'm here for you" to Mirage... like, come on man you just told me you would protect me stop playing arround at least NOT IN FRONT OF MY FACE.
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>>143075592
She just raised her dead flag.
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>>143075613
She's the ship, or she has some sort of connection with it... I know it.
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>>143075637
SMS appears to be way more competent than Chaos though.
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>>143075637
Quarter was based, I thought having your HQ surf through atmosphere was something I'd see in a brave series or something.
But quarter found a way
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>>143075513
>>143075639
>I'm here for you...
>So are Arad and Chuck!
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>>143075699
or eureka hmm I wonder who made that anime
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>>143075592
Freyja is the prize, anon.
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>fold into battle
>enemy folds away

sasuga delta squadron
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NUNS BTFO. Chaos is next.
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>>143075681
>She's the ship
infinite ryvius end incoming
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>>143075696
Yeah, I totally agree.
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>>143075742
was Kawamori the one who suggested the surfing in E7? I thought he just worked on the mecha designs.
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Mirage looks like will die in one of last few episodes.
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>>143075753
Enemy runs away means a win
101 battles 1 victory
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>>143075613
/ss/. Waiting eagerly for some Mikumo/Heinz doujins.
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>>143075803

opinions of esl don't matter.
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>>143075758
Tell me more about that, you got me interested (I might watch it if you recomend it).
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>>143075613
>2560x1466
>3.12 MB
>.png

Anon, I...
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>>143075696
Not really. SMS only had a single colony fleet to defend and not an entire star cluster.
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>>143075795
He is.

>Always keen to try new things, Kawamori also contributed much of the setting and ideas for the anime Eureka 7. As he explains, “Again, the request came from Minami at Bones. At the beginning I was asked to help design the mecha and generate some setting ideas.”

>“The initial request was to come up with a transforming automobile type mecha but this has been done so many times before. As we discussed the narrative setting with Tomoki Kyoda and Dai Sato, there was talk of something called “trapar”. This allowed the big battleships to fly.”

>“At that time, I got an idea. Why not have the mecha surf on this trapar as well?”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2015/12/10/shoji-kawamori-the-creator-hollywood-copies-but-never-credits/#7d2b75b61683
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Anyone know when the Robotech adaptation of this is gonna start?
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>>143075848
Watch Fafner instead, the ship is a loli.
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>>143075848
Lord of the Flies in space.
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>>143075872
What? You got a slow internet? I've got only 3MB and it opens really fast.
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>>143075932
SEED character designs always put me off Fafner.
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>Delta manages to beat up Windermere, finally scoring a major victory
>Ragna gets blown up by NUNS anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
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>autists who talk about Robotech in every thread

reeeee get out
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Something is definetly fishy about NUNS
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>>143075996
NUNS being assholes isn't anything unusual. This is the same one that willingly sent Macross 7 to solo assault the Protodeviln in a suicide mission.
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Mikumo is going to die. Maybe she'll make the ultimate sacrifice or something.

Or maybe she'll betray Walkure.
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>>143075996
There's always something fishy with the NUG. They've never been anything but assholes.

The remnants in SDF were assholes. They were assholes in 7. They were assholes in Frontier. They are assholes now.

They couldn't be assholes in Plus, really, or Zero.
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>>143075844
Welcome to esl board, white, soon we will own US and UK.
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>>143075480
>Watch OP sequence
>Messer scene
>Face stern with concentration
>His expression softens
>Next scene is Reina's
>Face stern with concentration
>Her expression softens

>>143075996
How can you not trust this face?
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>>143076088
Take your /pol/bait shit back to /pol/ or /int/
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>>143075897
>Why not have the mecha surf on this trapar as well?

kawamoririppingafatbonghit.jpg
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>>143076062
>Or maybe she'll betray Walkure.
that's what I thought first too, but after that one episode where she scold freyja for not taking her singing in walkure seriously kinda hard to see her being a traitor.
if she did, it will probably be something like ozma and co did in frontier.
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I wonder how are they going to make Keith job.
He effortlessly killed Delta platoon's best pilots and the rest of the squad can barely fly their VFs. If they weren't the main characters the white knight would eat them alive in .05 seconds.
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>>143075996
There is nothing wrong with bombing a planet of shitters to hurt windmere.
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>>143076256
Mirage x Hayate + their power of love
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>>143076256
Roid is going to kill him.
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>>143075592
Freyja is irrelevant
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>>143076256

The KAZE will get disturbed. Probably Ragna's ruins.
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>>143076256
>effortlessly
no, he give it everything he's got to beat messer, and he crippled his own draken in the process.
he's better than messer, yes. he beat messer effortlessly? no.
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>>143076288
The only thing Roid cares about is the Protoculture ship. Didn't you see his face when the thing started flying? I bet he even ejaculated.
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I hope Mirage steps up her game in the second half. Or just go full trust.
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>>143076311
>implying
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>>143075848
It's nothing like macross outside of a bunch of people living on a ship and the solar system being fully colonized.

Basically in the future a huge solar flare causes a lot of damage to the earth sphere and create this weird sea of radiation/gravitational distortions in space called the gedult.
Going in there will kill you, but the main ship our cast uses is able to because it can create its own gravitational fields.

The story starts off with two brothers who are in a space station for training to become astronauts, however terrorists attack and the station falls apart.
Luckily the new ship is sealed within and everyone escapes to it with the help of the few adults and instructors who sacrifice their lives for their students.
Cue 23 episodes of children trying to create a temporary gov't on said ship to stop shit from getting out of hand (communism,democracy,dictatorships, fun times)
shit still gets out of hand also there's a single mech on the ship they use to fight off enemies who are trying to capture the ship,
however this mech has a pretty unique twist to it I've never seen any other series ever do because it has to be programmed rather than piloted.


Hisashi Hirai is the character designer which puts people off, but in this entry it was before his Seed phase so it's pretty alright,the ost is one of my faves though

oh yeah and the ship has a biological computer that takes the form of a girl and is implied to have psychological effects on people around it.

pretty fun series,I'd give it a try
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>>143076342
Haven't you been watching their confrontations over the shota prince?
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>>143075613
>Anon! Listen to me right now! It’s Mikumo! She’s the key!
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>>143076346
I hope Mirage dies. Preferable in a hugely undignified way
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>>143076346
She needs to go full yukkuri like her grandpa.

Nigga was a fucking psychopath that enjoyed killing like it was a game.
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>>143075307
>It still gets overshadowed by other shows in just about every other English speaking community. It's still like the 3rd or 4th most popular show this season. A part of it is probably down to Western communities still being adverse to anything that isn't edgy and Macross for the most part, still has two things that Western anime fans tend to dislike, romance and idols. With idols being more prominent, it goes without saying.

There's also the simple fact fans won't go out of their way getting fansubs

If it's not on Crunchyroll or other legal streams, it doesn't exist for them
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>>143076374
Yes, he's the only one who gives a shit about the prince; he wanted the war to end quickly so the poor kid doesn't sing to death.
But he was way too excited about the Protoculture technology. Probably that's going to be a source of conflict for him: his desires as a scientist and archaeologist vs Heinz's well-being.
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>>143076288
They are like brothers, dude.
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Is this the best anime of the season?
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>>143076432
That too. Modern anime fans are entitled as fuck. I thought things were bad 10 years ago when people would complain about subs taking more than 3-4 days if they weren't speedsubs, but now they're bitching if a show doesn't have a sameday release

And if it isn't instantly released on a schedule, I know a lot don't even bother waiting.
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>>143076467
Uh huh. And these two are like sisters, right?
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>>143076483
probably, I;m enjoying Luluco,Kiznaiver and Mayoiga though.
The last one was only fun with anons, otherwise it was an absolute trainwreck and not the fun kind like Valvrave and Code geass.
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>>143076485
>Having to search in your city for a place where anime is sold
>Paying $$$$$$ for pirate VHS tapes of questionable quality
>Limited selection
>Watching the shows years after their originally aired / were released
>fucking realmedia format

There are many things I don't miss from the 90
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>>143076501
Yes, they are. Watching /u/ taking the bait is hilarious, their tears will be delicious when Maki and Rei end up with the twins.
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>>143075613
She's probably Protoculture all along.
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No song this week, I feel empty.
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>>143076593
You mean when one of them dies.
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>>143076501
Only Reina brings her shit lesbianism over Makina, who is straight.
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Producing fold waves has a negative effect on the girls along with Winderemers (since their runes act as a natural fold quartz). Freyja constantly singing is deteriorating her health, which would explain why her health has declined since episode one. She wen't from jumping high leaps, to constantly being tired.
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>>143076552
I know that feeling.

I used to have to rely on my older brother's friend to mailorder stuff or ask guys at my local GW for VHS tapes.

>.rm files
Fuck that shit as well.

Modern watchers are so fucking lucky they have so much choice, and so quickly. Every time I see them bitch, I wish I could punch them across the Internet.
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>>143076593
only two choices:

One of the twins die and the other ends up with both Reina and Makina,

or Reina dies and Makina ends up pregnant with both twins at the same time.
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>>143075675
She won't die, anon. It's impossible, really.
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>>143076654
>Freyja is going to burn out

Don't do this to me anon
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>>143076654
When has Freyja grew tired? Only in the temple backlash.
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>>143075996
Kawamori hating the military again & again, what did you expected?
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>>143076727
The training under the rain
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>>143076770
Does he?
I think the military in the Macross universe is one of the most benevolent ones I've seen in fictional media.
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Who didn't see this coming?
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>>143076776
She wasn't tired. She slipped.
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>>143076085
>Zero
Weren't they going to annihilate a small island full of native?
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>>143074884

militaryshitters GO
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>>143076654

Freyja will win, but both she and Hayate will die.
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>>143076897

huh. meant for >>143076770
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>>143074400
Isn't this a reference to Seven Samurai?
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>>143076913
>Freyja will win
>implying
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>>143076888
I honestly don't remember anything from Zero other than wanting to fuck Mao.
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>>143076897
Fuck off Kaifun.
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>>143076843
I never expected it to be much bigger than the Macross.
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>>143075996
You mean Windermere was right the whole time? I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked!
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>>143076888
Yes. They were assholes there.

You can see they were assholes in Plus too since Isamu didn't want to be their pawn.
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>>143076942

I want Mirage to win, but she's behind.
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>>143076843
I saw that coming the moment they ordered a majority of the forces to defend Ragna. It wouldn't be a proper battle if they didn't commit all of their forces.
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What if NUNS nukes the Ragna ruins and Ragna gets really fucked up. Then everyone in Chaos realizes the NUNS are assholes and join forces with Windemere to fight NUNS?

Kawamori already made that NUNS guy look evil.
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>>143076615
>Heinz's song doesn't count
Okay...
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Why is Mirage so fucking ugly?
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>>143077032
Don't worry, Mirage will win on the technicality that Freyja will die first. She wins by the process of elimination.
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>>143076353
Thanks, I will watch it. Also Fafner.
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>We're going to blow up these ruins and endanger this planet

I don't see Ragnians agreeing to this move. It's decided by NUNS and Chaos behind their backs. Where were those fags who claimed those planets were independent again?
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>>143077069
>implying they wont all die
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>>143077047
Not even Leon did that.
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>>143076820
He tends to portray them as uncaring and making bad decisions, I don't know why or it's just MUH PACIFISM.
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>>143074791
The New Macross class is different from 7 and Frontier as is the Battle class. There were different "waves" of colonization fleets launched from both earth and the colonies like Eden. So there are differences even if they use a generic "Macross" class name.
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>>143077047

Can't see a team-up happening so soon after Messer's death. I can see blowing up the ruins leading to an explosion similar to what happened to Windermere.
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>>143077064
Those fucking ears.
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>>143076654
Kawamori is laying down the red flags
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>>143077191
That's what I was thinking. Blowing up the ruins on Ragna might make the same hole that Windemere has.
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>Embracing Driftage

What if the planet blows up?
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>>143077125
More like he portrays them as blind idiot gods. Powerful, but unbelievably gullible. They mean well, but you all know what happens to people with good intentions.
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BD/DVD is getting proper english subs, right?
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>>143076727
There has been numerous episodes. From being exhausted from running away from the paparazzi during episode 5 etc. I began noticing it when they constantly had her saying she was tired quickly.
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>actually thinking windies were bad

They got merch. They wanted them to be popular.
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>>143077047
I'm actually kind of curious about that.

I can't tell if I'm being retarded, but this series seems like it's just one giant hint of "LATER WE WILL WORK TOGETHER TO OVERCOME SOME CRAZY BULLSHIT, BUT WE WILL FIGHT EACH OTHER NOW."

It's just the feeling I've been getting. There's a lot of focus on the Windermere side of things, so I don't feel like it's too crazy.
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>>143077261
No. Thank Harmony Gold for that.
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>>143077236
I'm guessing after the nuke goes off, NUNS says it was done by Windermere and suddenly everyone in Chaos realize Windermere was telling the truth the whole time.
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>>143077301
what about the rest of the english speaking world?
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>>143077261
Yeah, they are.
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>>143076501
yeah man, and this guys are totally gay for each other too.
looks at those lewd handholding.
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>>143077299
You're not crazy, it's exactly what will happen. Everyone with a brain could tell.
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>>143077337
>>143077301
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>>143077047
A better question is how NUNS maintains any authority over the Macross fleets considering that they operate for centuries completely autonomously.
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>>143077307
But it'll kill the sea cats. I'll kill myself if that happens.
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>>143077298
They are. There is nothing wrong with what NUNS is doing.
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>>143077337

i think macross is owned by harmony gold everywhere outside of japan. it's one of the reasons why everyone hates harmony gold.
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>>143077365
>centuries
It has only been like 40 years since Space War One.
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>>143077236
>>143077307
>NUG getting shown to be bad
>implying chucklefucks in a backwater system could handle the NUG deplyoing the NUNS to finish them off
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This episode had Freyja humming 'ichido dake no koi nara' and whenever they do this it means it's an upcoming song later in the episode or next one. Which means we might finally get to hear Rhapsody in C Minor.
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17. ザルド・ヴァーサ!~決意の風~

Who sings this ??
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>>143077340
Nah, Giado's got Garnet.
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>>143077402
More like 60. Still not quite centures like >>143077365 this retard said.
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IS IT SUNDAY YET?
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>>143074185
How delusional?
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>>143076888
There is nothing wrong with wanting to remove islanders or mudslimes.
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>>143077301
The first volume comes with Eng subs. Don't know about the rest, but it would make sense for them to. As for being hosted on licensed streaming sites, that's probably out of the question.
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>>143077386
Don't worry about those sea cats. They're with the Protoculture now.
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>literal chestpussy
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>>143077397
they CLAIMED they owned macross' IP in general in america.
in actuality, they probably only owned the license for sdf macross, which they turned into robotech.
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>>143077472
Took you long enough to notice
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>>143076843
It was like a great "FUCK YOU AND YOUR HONORABLE FIGHTS I'M GONNA DESTROY YOUR PLANET".
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>>143077405
Look, it's probably not NUNS but merely a corrupt division from it like with Frontier. NUNS is too large to have total control over everything. We just need the good part to come rushing in like the cavalry with an armada of Macross at the last possible moment and we'll be cool with them once again.
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>>143077397
It isn't quite, since the ADV dub and Manga Entertainment's releases of Macross Plus and II exist.

But it's still a bit of a prickly minefield that isn't worth bothering with until Harmony Gold die for good, so they just keep it Japan only.
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>>143077472
>her battlestation looks like cat paws
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>[HAND RUBBING INTENSIFIES]

Every day.
Every day I see this asshole standing back there, rubbing his hands together.
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>>143077445
when do the discs get released?

I'll just buy them off Amazon Jp.
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>>143074028
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>>143077531
They're already establishing Epsilon, whoever they are, as bad guys. Not the NUG.
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>>143077531
He's an envoy of the Central Government (From Earth).
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>>143077402
>>143077431
>>143077365
I meant a century, my bad.
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>>143077541
I remember hearing a story about Harmony Gold trademarking the old NUG symbol and tried to use that as an excuse to have rights over the unreleased Macross game or something. Japan went 'fuck you' and cancelled everything and changed it to NUNS and their symbol afterward. Any truth to that?
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>>143077531
This was your first episode, wasn't it?
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>>143077596
Yes, and? Frontier had Galaxy and part of the Nuns (Leon) as bad guys. Corrupted NUN branch was also the bad guy in Macross 30th stuff.
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>>143077588
If anything these guys need to go desu
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>>143077644
Galaxy were deemed as rogues and Leon was more of a chaotic neutral, as per the usual NUG role of being incompetent shits.
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>>143075412
>>143075513
As expected of Alto's son
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>>143077574
July 22nd.
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>>143077574
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There's going to be some drama later where Hayate tells Freyja to stop singing right?
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>>143077564
Kawamori sure is red pilled
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>>143077682
>Alto's son
>Alto is only 25 by this point in time and Hayate is 17
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>>143077699
Only if it turns out that it's actually killing her.
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>>143077644
Eh, the fact that the Drakens use the SV designation rather than VF, like the Lucifer did, hints more towards anti-UN remnnants.
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>>143077699
Yes, and she's going to tell him to fuck off if he does that. And he'll be sad and desperate.
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>>143077751
It pretty much is
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>>143074198
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GAS THE WINDKIKES

SPACE WAR II NOW
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>>143077790
Singing doesn't kill her, it's emitting fold waves/resonate with ruins. She's been singing for a while.
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>>143077841
They haven't really explained Windermeran physiology yet, and whether or not rune use shortens their lives. I doubt they'll answer it either.
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Post FreFre
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>>143077881
They should have made Mirage's hips just a little wider in the show desu
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>>143077881
HOINA
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>That smile when daddy complimented him.
This kid shouldn't be there. Damn you windies, Heinz just need some love.
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Freyja's pose here is very lewd
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>>143077698
I wonder if Windemerean /d/ has girls with two or more runes?
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>>143077881
Frebiki
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>>143077531
More than likely it's probably just NUN central not actually giving a shit about what goes on in the galactic boondocks.

>Sir, one of our distant sectors reports that a planet in the sector is using Protoculture ruins to take control of the other planets
>Is this a direct threat to humanity outside of that sector?
>No sir.
>Oh great, I don't have to hassle sending out a whole fleet, nuke the ruins on what planets we have left and be done with it.
>but sir that could seriously destabil-
>Do I look like I give a shit, son? I have half a galaxy with billions of people to worry about, now take care of it.

I NUN/UN Spacy only come off as assholes because everything that isn't an immediate threat to all of humanity is a low priority and they always try to take the most direct approach to solving a problem. Macross being tailed by the enemy fleet? Good tell them to fuck off till our doomsday laser is ready and can deal with their fleet all at once. Macross 7 reports they ran into some soul sucking aliens? Tell them to use reaction weaponry to blow them to kingdom come. Alien bugs are attacking Frontier and blocking our colonization of a prime planet? Nuke the shit out of them. The NUN just doesn't have the in depth knowledge of the situation or concern that we the audience and the main characters have, so they sound like Rambo jackasses, when really they're just trying to deal with the problem in the most obvious way.
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>>143078009
>Statelite reuses character designs
BRAVO
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>>143077961
Her FreFres look kinda big in some scenes.
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>>143077941
Mikumo will wreck that boipussy
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>>143077735
>something something Kawamori's bong and fold quartz and time travel
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>>143078056
>At the end of the series Mikumo adopts Heinz and they retire to a small house in the countryside

Yes please.
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>>143078018
Also, with the whole decentralisation thing, they fleets have a lot more autonomy and are basically left to deal with their own shit and when they can't, it's probably something that nukes will solve.
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>>143078081
It's honestly easier to believe Hayate's father is the one that gave Freyja that music player and picked up the crystal while he was on Windermere.
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What is this expression trying to convey?
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>>143078039
>Statelite
Wew.

All Satelight shows take place in the same universe friendo. Symphogear Δ soon.
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>>143078046
They are kind of big for a 14 years old. She's going to have huge tits if she grows up.
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>>143078039
Wasn't there a akb0048 that was literally Kaname?
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>>143078119
>"What the fuck is this bitch's problem? Get out of here you elf piece of shit."
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>>143075872
>/g/ plz go
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What did she mean by this stare?
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>>143078127
>They are kind of big for a 14 years old.
Tits are more to do with genetics (and fat distribution) than age, anon. You can get stacked 12-year-olds and pancake flat 29-year-olds. Frefre and Miramira are both distinctly average in the chest department and are unlikely to depart from that outside of fanart.
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>>143078200
>He's mine you little shit.
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What the hell happened to her voice in this scene?
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>slbum Giraffe Blues isn't the Freyja solo
Fucking bullshit, that's like releasing the Ranka version of Diamond Crevasse before Sheryl's
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>>143078121
Please no. Symphogear has changed. It's no longer the same series I look forward to anymore. Not even the music is memorable anymore.
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>mirage got promoted
HOW
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>>143078097
Exactly, central NUNS can't be everywhere in the galaxy, it's impossible to focus on 1 little crisis when there's a 100 others more threatening out there.
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>>143078119
>>143078200
>It's a what was her fucking problem episode
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>>143078119
>>143078200
So, how awkward would it be if both of them decides to try to hook the other person up with Hayate?
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>>143078200
>"plz let me have some bonding time"
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>>143078232
Nepotism and office politics always promoting those who've been around longer before the actually competent people
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So doe anyone know if Delta is going on a hiatus or jumping into the second cour right away?
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>sea apples
How does that work?
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>>143078287
I would have assumed chuck was the senior
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>>143078200

>I will fuck you until your fold receptors ejaculate
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>>143078336
It's Macross, anon. Sea apples are the least of your realism worries.
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>>143078336
Overtechnology.
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So the captain and the king know each other?
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>>143078287
Honestly, Chucklefuck and Hayate don't fit the role.
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>>143078018
>he NUN just doesn't have the in depth knowledge of the situation or concern that we the audience and the main characters have, so they sound like Rambo jackasses, when really they're just trying to deal with the problem in the most obvious way.
Are they really jackasses though?

So what if a planet gets blown up? The inhabitants are aggressors, if they want to declare war then they get what was coming to them. They only got their independence because blowing them up would have been expensive and NUN would have gained nothing out of it. Now that they are an actual threat to other planets, it is now justified to stop them.

People are dying. The people responsible are one big target waiting to be blown up. Do it is the fastest way and most definitive. It's what it means to declare war.
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>"What the fuck Hayate?!"
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>>143078230
Other than being "less dark" since season 1, I can't see how its changed much. The music still sounds just as good to me as it did in S1.

All I need for them to do is fix up the fucking writing, which honestly, has never been great.
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>>143078416
We know that. Only Mirage actually gives a damn about any sort of organization, so it's either her, or they draft Kaname into their force.
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>>143078230
clearly they need Kawamori on board
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>>143078106
>Hayate's dad stealing fold quartz from Windermerians.
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>>143078446
Eh, it's probably just me, but I found the music, post S1, to be incredibly generic. I mean, it's good, but it's nothing special. I honestly can't remember any music from S2 and beyond but I do remember that kickass bagpipe intro from Hibike's theme in S1.
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>>143078503
>I'm going to turn these girls into fucking airplanes
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>>143078521
>Hayate's dad is the one that ultimately set off the dimensional weapon that started all this shit.
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>>143073995
>she just want to eat lunch with Freyja
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What kind of tactical advantage does a Macross class ship brings? The whole thing seems like a gigantic sitting duck to me esp the earlier ones where they have to waste time to transform first before they can fire the main cannon.
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>>143078560
They did that already at the end of season 1.
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I have to wonder what the population in-universe thinks of Hikaru's decision to go for Misa, rather than Motherfucking Minmay considering SDF Macross is a thing that has been turned into movies and tv shows for them
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>the fucking ship is bigger than a macross
fucking hell
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>>143078569
It can fuck your ships with its giant robo dick.
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>>143078018
>Alien bugs are attacking Frontier and blocking our colonization of a prime planet? Nuke the shit out of them.

Actually that is illegal. Frontier didn't tell Earth about it. Leon wanted to be ruler of the galaxy.

http://monkeybacon.mywebcommunity.org/MCRtimeline/TimelineTF02A.php
>Related Matter: The Galaxy Treaty
>The Galaxy Treaty was drawn up after the conclusion of the First Interstellar War, and such clauses as the prohibition of invading planets where intelligent life exists were noted in the treaty, which was concluded between the Emigrant Planets and Emigrant Fleets. Also, as disregarding an SOS from another fleet was a violation of of the Galactic Treaty, it has strong aspects of humanity (including extraterrestrial life) and respect for life.

>Caption: If the Vajra are intelligent life, than the invasion of the Vajra Homeworld was a violation of the treaty.
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>>143078569
A big cannon.
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>>143078200
She wants to eat Freyja out. Mirage is challenging Hayate to be Freyja's knight.
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Is Delta 24 or 26 episodes?
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>>143078614
Well, it is a protoculture ship. These guys created the Zentradi.
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>>143078613
They would have skinned Hikaru alive if he hooked up with Minmay.
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>>143078661
>Love triangle
>Freyja > Hayate
>Hayate > Mirage
>Mirage > Freyja
The madman wouldn't do it, would he?
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>>143078569
The only reason the original Macross had to transform in order fire it's Macross cannon was because damage to the ship made it necessary to create workarounds by transforming. I guess the designers of every Macross afterward just decided it'd be a cool feature to add, practicality be damned.
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>>143078790
I'm pretty sure they can fire in ship mode. Still, rule of cool. I mean, if we were going with practicality, there'd only really be Gerwalk and fighter modes.
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>>143078637
The argument that the Vajra weren't intelligent would've probably been made by Leon and company post-facto to justify wiping them out. After how would anyone know once they'd already genocided the bugs?
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>>143078790
>The only reason the original Macross had to transform in order fire it's Macross cannon was because damage to the ship made it necessary to create workarounds by transforming. I guess the designers of every Macross afterward just decided it'd be a cool feature to add, practicality be damned.
It is pretty clear to me that the transformation in recent series is about engaging enemy ships in melee range. That firing the cannon is fine, but if you want to fuck them up then it is still most effective to punch them directly.
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>>143078529
I loved when I first listened to her second battle song... like it was so moving that it had the same music as Kanade's song, it was epic. God I loved that anime, I also loved G but GX didn't do for me... but oh well, better that than nothing.
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>>143078442
DENSE FAGGOT
I was suprised too when he said that he's here for Mirage and then he said Chuck and Arad are here too. This fucking dense faggot.
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>>143078668
Anyone?
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>>143078953
To be fair, it doesn't seem like he thinks of Mirage in a romantic way [yet] and Mirage is still somewhat confused, with her asking herself why she even bothered to hide.
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>>143074400
>八敗 happai
>百敗 hyakuhai

The space sand nigger was speaking fast
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>>143078777
No /u/ allowed in Macross.
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>>143078842
Battroid mode makes sense in the context that, at their core, VF's are ultimately made to allow for humans to fight on par with a full-sized Zentradi warrior, and to use their technology if necessary. Honestly if we were going to be entirely practical you'd only have Battroids/Destroids and fighters as separate vehicle, because trying to make something that transforms is going to be an engineering nightmare and is probably going to breakdown in 50 different ways every minute, not to mention when you design a vehicle to do multiple jobs, especially those as different as space fighter and giant fighting robot, you're going to be making tradeoffs that ensure your going to get worse performance than a craft designed solely for one role.
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>>143078790
Battle Frontier and the Quarter were both able to fire their cannons without transforming. Definitely in the movies, not sure if it happened in the show as well.
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So what the fuck is this "Wind" horse shit? It's as ambiguous and all powerful as the fucking Force, it seems.

Like it lets you predict the future, read minds, feel incoming danger, mind control, dog fight better, physical enhancement...

Actually, isn't it exactly The Force? What the hell.
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>>143074028
I wouldn't know because IT HASN'T BEEN SUBBED YET.
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>>143079097
Fold magic.
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>>143078953
He doesn't see Mirage in a romantic way. He's concerned because she's kind of useless.
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>>143079097
It's whatever feeling their rune is emitting/receiving
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>>143079097
Fold waves anon. Runes are allowing the Windermereans to detect thing through interdimensional energy waves, which aren't bound by our natural laws.
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>>143079145
>kind of
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>>143078614
nope,Elysium is half sized
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I am in love with Freyja Wion and one day I am going to marry her.
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>>143079235
I will fuck your children when they are of age!
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>>143079235
Hurry up because she will die in 15 years
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>>143075245
So does everyone agree that she is likely the previous wind singer than caused the fold anomaly on Windermere?
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I sense a death ending for both Mikumo and Freyja, however not a normal death ending but perhaps a transcending one like Madoka or Shinji from evangelion.

Fold waves have a negative effect on its producers, and Mikumo has been hinted to having the same problems when Kaname noted that having Freyja would loosen the burden.

I wonder how people would react to this kind of ending. Freyja and Mikumo sacrificing their lives with a final song for the greater good. Perhaps this was what Kawamori mean't by not a traditional ending.
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>>143079235
Are we even getting Freyja doujins?
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>>143079227
that's still smaller than the wind ship
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>>143078668
>>143079010
pls
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>>143079338
Neither

Get rekt kid
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>>143078661
>>143078777
>the makina and reina yuribait is there to distract viewers from mirage's growing /u/ tendencies
Kawamori truly is a master of storytelling.
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>>143079235
That could only happen in a doujin.. If you're gonna make one make it faceless so that we can think it's us too, do it for your anon brothers.
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>>143079421
>Mirage and Freyja end

KAWAMORIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>
Mirage definitely has a crush on Hayate, she just doesn't know it yet. She's never fallen in love before and doesn't realize her feelings for Hayate, and her jealousy of Freyja. The scene where she asks herself why she is hiding, is proof that she's dealing with emotions and feelings she's never felt before.
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>>143079305
Bottom isn't gg translation.

Discarded.
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>>143079097
Fold waves are similar to the waves in Ar Tonelico.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWKSfdo9DT8
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>>143079414
TELL ME HOW MANY IT IS I FUCKING HATE YOU SO MUCH
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>>143079543
It's no episodes
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>>143075412
Remember back before the show began and everyone thought Hayate would just be some fuccboi?
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>>143079616
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>>143079097
Probably Protoculture genetic memory of the Protoculture. Wind could be their equivalent of Kadun . While they have Wind Singers, Earth had Mayan Shrine Maiden of the Wind.


>http://monkeybacon.mywebcommunity.org/MCRworldguide/02ABirdman.php
>Mayan Shrine Maidens
Among the majority of Earthlings, who lost their space-time resonance abilities due to gene manipulation, they are from a family in which the space-time resonance abilities remained in order to regenerate and activate the Birdman. They have the beliefs of the Protoculture and Birdman at the genetic level. Also, it's said that families with identical abilities exist in various places on the Earth.
>http://monkeybacon.mywebcommunity.org/MCRglossary/Glossary07a.php
>Kadun
The Mayan Island legend of spirit-like beings is recited on the solitary south seas island. It's thought to be something close to the animism ideology, where divinity dwells in every single thing in this world, and there are such Kaduns as "the Iron Kadun" and "the Fire Kadun". Also, some of the Kadun negatively influence humans, and the persons who violate taboos are thought to have been possessed by the "curse of a Kadun". Moreover, it's said that the "Birdman" (Eifos) will awaken and destroy this world when the "Kadun of Conflict", who arrives from the other side of the sea, blows the wind of ruin.

.Caption: [Kadun] The Shrine Maiden of the Wind, Sara Nome, who was taken into the Eifos (left picture), saw the appearance of the Unified Forces and Anti Unification Alliance, who were unrolling a battle in the skies of Mayan Island, as the "Kadun of Conflict" (right picture). In her eyes, it seems that the negative feelings, such as anger and fear that the pilots emitted, were projected as beings that called and awakened the wind of ruin.
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>>143078119
>I love Bogue.
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>>143079052
I honestly want it to be 100 out of 100 battles lost because it would make a nice reference to Kambei from Seven Samurai.
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>>143079305
>Fold waves have a negative effect on its producers
No they don't. How the fuck did you come up with that? If you're referring to Heinz his Var inducing song just puts a huge strain to his body and not because fold waves are detrimental to to the singer.
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>>143079632
We did? I thought we all agreed Bogue was the fuccboi. Hayate was the player.
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>>143074400
>hand-rubbers in charge of telling the truth
>>
Bogue is absolute perfection.
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>>143079748
Roid clearly stated that they can't afford for his runes to run out. Runes are their natural fold quartz, which allows them to produce fold waves. The runes are running dry when he sings because in order to activate the machine he produces a significant amount of fold waves through his runes. It's not coming up with anything, it's just connecting the dots.
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>>143079748
More likely the Shrine does that to Heinz. Mikumo seems to recognize the Sigur Valens. She could be the original pilot meaning Protoculture.

We do know the Protoculture use Fold Receptor singers known as Anima Spiritia in sealing the Protodevlin and as Shrine Maidens for the Bird Human bio mechs.
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>>143079543
Series finale next week
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>>143079305
Why haven't the other 3 Walkure have had any signs then? Obviously they're not front and center like Mikumo and Freyja nor do they really have the same level of plot importance, but they've been singing together for a much longer time than her so they would at least show some level of strain, even if very minute?

Wasn't Freyja having trouble producing fold waves in the first place for some time too?
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>>143079962
Who will die this time?
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>>143078119
>Try me, nigga

>>143078200
>Oh I will, nigga
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>>143079048
He didn't think of Freyja on romantic way either but he said something good because Freyja's not a jobber?
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>>143079543
>>143079962
Stop bullying me
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>>143078424
>let's mass murder everyone
You sound like a fucking psycho.
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>>143079486
Didn't she already noticed it since episode 10?
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>>143079715
She already fall for Hayate.
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What the fuck does "GORI GORI mean?
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>>143080062
The other girls are humans and don't produce as much fold waves as Mikumo and Freyja, which is why the need assistance from the fold wave amps.

Mikumo has an extremely large fold wave output for some reason. While Freyja is a Winderemere, who have runes. The runes act as natural fold quartz which allows them to produce high amounts of fold waves. Since Heinz has the largest rune shown in the show, it's safe to assume he is able to produce the highest amount of fold waves. This might also be the reason why during episode 10 when Mikumo and Freyja got knocked out from clashing, he was able to stand back up immediately.
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>>143080231
>You sound like a fucking psycho.
I am not the one who decided to declare war and start planetary conquest. War is murder, and Windermere was one ones who declared open season for murder. They just didn't realise murder works both ways.
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>>143080231
Windkikes aren't people.

They grow biological weapons in their own backyards. It's like an entire planet producing zyklon b and exporting it as fresh produce.
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>>143079901
>Roid clearly stated that they can't afford for his runes to run out
That's just Heinz overexerting himself plus the Protoculture ruins amplifying his song puts a huge toll onto him. The fold waves themselves aren't damaging to the one emitting them.
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>>143080431
Protoculture relics*
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>>143080343
You truly are a fucking psycho. Jesus. War has never been about exterminating every single person alive including civilians.
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Windfags never stood a chance against Mikumo. The invasion will end when pic related inevitably happens.
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>>143080298
Depends on the context.
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>>143080497
>You truly are a fucking psycho. Jesus. War has never been about exterminating every single person alive including civilians.
No, just exterminating threats. Threats that just happen to kill civilians. No one ever tried to argue that Imperial Japan shouldn't be firebombed, even though the firebombs killed more people than the two nukes ever did. Total War means shutting down enemy means of war and force them to surrender. That means killing people.

You can't sing your way into peace, not this time. The Windermere wanted a war and they will get one.
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>>143079305
It'll be typical MIA end with Hayate following Freyja as the Wind Dancer.

Mirage will live but lose and be left behind, organizing everything.
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>>143079720
it is 100/100 (百戦百敗). 8/100 (百戦八敗) doesn't even make sense.
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>>143080578
>You can't sing your way into peace, not this time.
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Gramia and Ernest better get bara doujins.
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>>143080602
It will be boring if they just copied other series ending, even Mirage "lost", make her lose in different way.
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>>143080653
>the love triangle isn't the one that's broken in Delta
>it's the music

HE DOES IT AGAIN
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>>143080679
I think her arc is more about finding out what she likes and be happy with herself as Mirage rather than a Jenius. Meeting Hayate allowed her to express herself. She offers nothing to Hayate in a relationship, while Freyja is the one who "gives him wings to fly". That's the most romantic shit a Macross MC can say to anyone.

It won't be the same because Mikumo will fold with them too. Wind Singer and Dancer would create a new legend.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOGVbpF6D8g

For people that didn't see it in the last thread

it's looking better than Macross F first album.
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>>143080578
I seriously hope you're just pretending. If not, you have some serious issues, son. Nuking a whole planet and killing everyone isn't comparable to strategic bombing. They are two completely different actions.
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>>143080807
t. Freyjafag
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>>143080431
His songs are not killing him nor are they being amplified, that's analogy. When he sings, just the the members of Walkure he produces fold waves. These fold waves are produced from his runes like Freyja. The protoculture ruins are amplifying the fold wave production, which is produced from his singing. The fold waves are not directly damaging but the constant production of them is draining his runes. It's already been infered that their runes act as their life force.

Heinz sings -> Runes produces fold waves -> Fold waves amplified by ruins, Runes are weaken by constant production, which leads to life force being depleted.

This is why in episode 10 during the Jellyfish festival Freyja states that if she could live as long as she wanted, but not be able to sing, she wouldn't want that life. This is because she knows that constantly using her rune for singing depletes her runes.
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>>143080679
I've never heard of a series utilizing a singers energy to save the world, and become something more than she is by becoming a legend. Which show is that?
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>>143080828
>I seriously hope you're just pretending. If not, you have some serious issues, son. Nuking a whole planet and killing everyone isn't comparable to strategic bombing. They are two completely different actions.
Yes they are the same. When we are talking about fleets capable of FTL travel and planetary conquest, they are equivalent.

When you bomb a city, someone's world gets destroyed. MANY "someone"s. Lives, livelihoods, families. This is what it means to have a war. Scaling it up doesn't make it any worse, it is just the same annialating of the worlds of individuals just as a bombing does.

I am not saying nukes are as nice as bombings. I am saying bombings are as bad as nukes. And that since bombing is okay, so are nukes when we scale up to planetary warfare.
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>>143080829
I mean he gives credit to Mirage and her development as a character over her own arc so I guess if that's your average Freyjafag, sure.
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>>143080846
So Freyja has a death wish?
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>>143080578
>You can't sing your way into peace, not this time
It's never too late anon
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>>143080578
>You can't sing your way into peace, not this time
holy shit man
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>>143081088
>It's never too late anon
The Windermere wanted war. They weren't tricked into it, it is actually what they wanted. Singing doesn't work here because all it could do is to weaken the biological weapon the Windermere were deploying. You would still have to kill the actual soldiers to beat them.
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>>143080807
Well you just pointed out why Freyja will lose.
Freyja give something to Hayate, meanwhile Hayate give something to Mirage.

Thanks Freyja, you will be best singer ever.
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>>143080846
So there will be drama about someone tell her to stop singing?
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>>143081207
Hayate give something to Freyja too.
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>>143081188
Never thought I'd see the day where someone watching Macross tells me
>Singing doesn't work here
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>>143081274
Yup, but Freyja can do things by her own.
You may think at this rate Mirage win the Hayatebowl is bullshit, but you and i should always expect bullshit ending in triangle part.
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>>143081207
Freyja and Hayate motivate each other all the time.

Mirage meanwhile is inspired by them.
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>>143081076
>So Freyja has a death wish?
In medical terms it is about Quality of Life; it isn't how long you live, but how well you live it. I can make sure you live much longer by putting you in a coma and keep you in life support indefinitely, but that wouldn't be much of a life would it?

Singing makes her happy. To be happy is more important than to live longer.
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>>143081076
>>143081208
Freyja most likely won't die, it's probably just going to be used as a plot device and drama. Just something to create angst to the audience, which will be resolved towards the end of the series.
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>>143081356
Agree, they like a brother and sister, i love this relationship.
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Hayate's dad was the one who gave Freyja the music player, right?
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>>143081338
>Never thought I'd see the day where someone watching Macross tells me
>>Singing doesn't work here
It works to weaken the enemy in this instance, but that only makes them easier to kill, it doesn't remove the NEED to kill.
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>>143081404
Freyja is his dad's daughter.
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>>143081404
Yeah if not how the fuck would that thing get inside a country that forbides anything related to humans... maybe his father was involved in the hole's incident.
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>>143081386
ESL-kun please.
>>143081407
The point I'm getting at is that even when you think there is literally no chance of music being able to solve a problem, Kawamori will make it happen because he's a madman.

You can't sit here and honestly tell me that he wouldn't be able to find a way to make it work.
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>>143081590
>The point I'm getting at is that even when you think there is literally no chance of music being able to solve a problem, Kawamori will make it happen because he's a madman.
The easy way out is to throw in a third "Common Enemy" for the two sides to fight against. This would end the war prematurely, and the third new enemy could be defeated by singing. But that still meant that the original war wasn't defeated by song but by an interruption.
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The lady M cockteasing is getting annoying.
Just show us old Mylene already
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>no songs
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>>143081662
I'm sure Lady M is Mikumo herself. That's why she's never around; they're making everyone believe she's someone far away to deceive the enemy.
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I wonder how many poor souls are watching Delta without watching the original, 7, zero, and plus.
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So this is my first Macross and I really like it. Is there a specific best way of watching the earlier ones? I know there were recap movies and whatnot.
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>>143081745
I've only watched Original, DYRL and Frontier.
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>>143081745
Stop making people think 7 is worth a watch
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>>143081726
MITSUME ATTE KOI WO SHITE
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>>143081762
DYRL watch it.

It's a classic.
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>>143081762
Start with the original TV series (SDF Macross). DYRL is a fantastic movie, but it works more of a companion to the TV series than a recap.
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>>143081745
I just finished 7 and I'll get to Plus and Zero eventually.
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>>143081745
I wonder how many poor souls are watching Delta without even watching Basquash!, Nobunaga the Fool, The Vision of Escaflowne, Escaflowne: A Girl in Gaea, Genesis of Aquarion, Aquarion Evol, AKB0048, Anyamaru Tantei Kiruminzuu, and Thunderbirds are Go!/Thunderbirds are Go (2015 CG/Miniature Hybrid TV Series)
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>>143081743
Mikumo joined Chaos after it was established though. She was the newest member before Freyja joined. Kaname reviled that during episode 9
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>>143081880
That's what they want you to believe.
Don't listen to Kaname; she's an alcoholic so her memories aren't reliable.
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>>143081782
7 was rad as fuck
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>>143078529
I concur with you famalam. Also, the show lost any resemblance of tension past season 1.
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>>143073842
>>learning some dumb language like japanese
They literally cannot be worse than English, so might as well.
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hasshin webm when
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>>143081782
You dont have to like 7 but you should watch it to understand more about the lore. The songs arent half bad either. But the overall anime is shit.
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>>143076888
That was the one time I found their reactions to be understandable, this was their very first actual battle with a alien tech weapon, it was destroying everything around it, both sides, so shooting the nuke while bad for the MC and the girl it was at least understandable, they didn't have much in the way of dealing with it, it had near perfect point defense and even survived 4 reaction warheads
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>>143082379
Macross 7 is lopsided. As an overall work I have to say its not all that great, but if you get past the pacing issues in the first half or so it does become very entertaining. I just don't agree with the people who claim that that's enough to excuse all of the issues the series has.
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>>143075613
I have a feeling she's one of the last of the original Protoculture. Like a direct descendant perhaps.
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>>143082650
Second half is definitely worth it. Too bad the first half is literally endless 8 for 30 episodes.
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>>143080298
something she said to psyche herself up I guess
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>>143078119
>she's gonna marry hayate and there is nothing i can do
>dead inside
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>>143078200
>"I'm the wife"
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>>143081762
>recap movies
for the last fuckin' time, it's a retelling and not a fuckin' recap.
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>>143081745
current season anime are ending so gonna watch 7 soon
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>>143080338
>>143080338
Speaking of Mikumos insane fold output.

I assume everyones noticed what happens to her hear when she sings?

Turn from those coils into those thin-4-bladed type shapes that glow.

>Inb4 her whole head of hair is a rune
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>>143083033
>hear
hair*

>>143081386
Also this
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>>143083033
She's a jellyfish anon.
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>hfw he said that he will protect her
I almost forget that they're part of triangle because there're only romantic scene in episode 3. This scene is fucking cute.
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>>143080338
>not GG translation

useless
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>>143074695

Elysion isn't a battle class and its owned by fucking pmc, I highly doubt it brought the island there
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>>143081933
No bullying.
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>Messer was the only Skull emblem ace
>no Koenig Monsters

Chaos a shit. Although it's somewhat understandable since they were supposed to be idol bodyguards, but having them handle every other major problem in the sector is a bit of a stretch.
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>all this buildup
>wind cucks just fly away as soon as they arrive

gay
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>>143083267
they bringing the fight to ragna
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>>143078018

This.

For the NUG the #1 threat are those rogue zentradi fleets still wandering around that number in the millions
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>>143083316
wait, what are you smoking

>losing every battle
>winning streak
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>>143078569

they literally do it to punch the fuck out of other ships
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>>143083175
>Elysion isn't a battle class and its owned by fucking pmc, I highly doubt it brought the island there

Possible, and it would explain why they call the ship itself "Macross Elysion." But it begs the question, where are the Battle class from Ragna's colony and the SDFN from Windmere's colony.

One theory people have floated about Elysion is that it might be a generational step before the Battle class was adopted and thus still be tied to the colony. In that case I would assume operation of it for planetary defense duties was turned over to Chaos as part of NUNS budget cuts or something.
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>>143083316
uh, i speak chinese not japanese, but the standard 百戰百勝 would be the idiom for undefeated (lit. 100 battles 100 victories), while changing 勝 into 敗 turns it on its head into 100 defeats (always loses)
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>>143083495
actually know what, I have no idea. I'm just not gonna guess anymore.
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>>143083495
>>143083601
why does the king think that makes him such a good opponent that he literally runs from him?
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>>143075041
>Still surprised that the Elysion has been deployed this early.

I get the feeling Ragna will fall and leave Chaos and Walkure homeless, so they needed the Elysion launched ahead of that happening for them to make their retreat.
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>>143083644
probably because he (thinks he) wins by running straight past him and going straight for the throat on ragna. and probably because he respects him because he taught him fleet command in the past
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>>143083658
>Ragna will fall
>Fall

M8, when they bomb the ruins the planet is going to fucking explode.
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Finally caught up on Macross Delta. I knew Messer was going to die but jesus not like that. He didn't deserve that.
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>>143083601
>>143083605
well, someone already said that it was a reference to seven samurai, it could be just that
>>143079720
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>>143083693
>implying they will blow up Ragna

Ragna will fall along with the forces and civilians there

Windermere will enter into an internal strife and will get screwed by Epsilon

Elysion will get help from external NUNS forces and liberate Ragna

Final battle will be around or in Windermere
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>>143083693
>implying that's going to succeed
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>>143083693
>planet explode with a bomb
we star ocean 4 now?
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>>143083658
I hope it's the turning point where the Windfags finally lose their momentum and NUNS/Chaos goes full Reconquista on them, which forces the Windfags to resort to more desperate measures like using their ship at 100% capacity in an effort to even the odds.
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Why is the love triangle so soft in this series? Frontier and DYEL were a lot more overt. I want to see Freyja get btfo.
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Sigur Valens folded, and Heinz is ready to sing. Al Shahal fell in 15 minutes.

We have a situation now where Ragna can fall, but the main cast, along with the Elysion, are not there to be taken over (or resist it with walkure song) thus setting up that Ragna falls in a manner similiar to Al Shahal. This sets up the second half of the show being Elysion with Walkure and Delta on the run
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>>143083794
>so soft
>not seeing Mirage piercing Freyja and taking her man

Frontier was hilarious only if you're a Sherylfag

At least in Delta you have Freyjafags making stuff up and doing all sorts of headcanons thinking that their horse will win
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>>143083738
>>implying that's going to succeed
We have TWO ruins for a reason, anon. Ragna will go boom, and then the rest of the show would be Windermere realising they fucked up, and try to stop the NUN from doing the same to their home planet.
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>>143083835
preview already show that the delta platoon is fighting keith.
so they will just fold back to ragna and engage them there I guess.
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>>143083877
I think there has been maybe a total of 30 seconds of actual love triangle progression in Delta. The only ones that come to mind are Freyja wondering why she felt jealous and Mirage wondering why she felt awkward. Hayate has done jack shit. That's disappointing MY FEELINGS CAN'T FEEL TO THIS
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>>143083926
Yes, and the first very trailer saw some fighting on Ragna. But my point is, Ragna has probably already fallen by this point
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>>143083877
freyja is a cute idol who has found her voice after realizing singing is what she likes the most (since like, what, a few episodes after she joined walkure and had to sing "for real" in crisis situations like giraffe blues?)

meanwhile, mirage is still some delicate broken wings girl trying to validate her shit piloting skills not understanding herself if she wants to fly acrobatics with hayate in the sky or in bed

now give me my (you)
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>>143083734
So what exactly does it mean? Does Ernest Johnson always wins or loses? Based on Gramia's reaction I'd say its the former. It would be stupid though if Chaos (or anyone else) hired someone with such a horrible loss a record.
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>143084033

weak b8
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Keith does have a much more realistic view of NUG than Roid/Loid/Lloyd does. Where is he even getting the idea that the humans and zentradi who make up the NUG central government and NUNS command give two fucks about legitimacy via connection to the Protoculture?
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>>143084096
probably mean this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory
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>>143084096
>It would be stupid though if Chaos (or anyone else) hired someone with such a horrible loss a record.

I think the implication is meant to be that he loses due to siding with lost causes, not due to bad performance. He may well do a very good job of prolonging the inevitable.
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>>143083926
By that time Ragna already would be under Windermere control.

I think Ragna is going to be bombed since Windermere already has Al-Shahal protoculture ruins. Title even suggest that Elysion crew is loosing their home.

13. Passionate Diving
14. Embracing Driftage
15. Parting Resolution
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>>143084245
They lose their home because it isn't bombed. The losing part is that it is taken over. So they part with it, because its still there, but lost.
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>>143084149
>Where is he even getting the idea that the humans and zentradi who make up the NUG central government and NUNS command give two fucks about legitimacy via connection to the Protoculture?
Manifest Destiny, anon. The deluded belief that a culture is fated to be the master of the universe due to some ancient cultural link or some old books. Britain, Germany, United States, Imperial Japan, and now modern China (with their ocean claims) all do it.

It is just an excuse, but an excuse good enough to legitimise your use of lethal force on other nations that keeps your population happy.
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>>143084245
>Passionate Diving

Who will dive?
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>>143084298
Ragna
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>>143084298
Elysion folding back to Ragna
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>>143084296
Yes, but he seems to have talked himself into thinking that nonsense will actually be accepted by the nation they're attacking. Even the cat people weren't buying it.
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>>143083693
If anything, Ragna is going to be rocked.
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>>143084298
Ominous prophecies and dreams had long foretold the downfall of the cosmos and of its gods and goddesses along with it. When the first of these prophesied events came to pass – the beloved god Baldur was killed by Loki and consigned to the underworld – the gods had to face the fact they could no longer escape their tragic destiny. They prepared as well as they could. Odin took a great deal of time and care selecting the ablest human warriors to join him in the final battle against the world-devouring giants. But, deep down, they knew that all of their desperate actions were in vain.
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>assault concert
My keks
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>>143084458
new to macross?
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>>143084357
>Yes, but he seems to have talked himself into thinking that nonsense will actually be accepted by the nation they're attacking. Even the cat people weren't buying it.
Entirely realistic. That's what Manifested Destiny does to people. It is a fusion of Nationalism with Religious Faith.
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>>143076376
>She’s the key!

This isn't Fractale nigger
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>>143084296
> Imperial Japan

Greater Brisingr Globular Cluster Co-Prosperity Sphere
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>14. Embracing Driftage
Hmm? Island episode?

Who's going to be on it?
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Technically, that means he's also survived 100 possibly near-death scenarios, so I guess it has some merits.
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>>143084661
it's gonna be elysion floating aimlessly in space after their defeat in the next episode. Then they embark on a journey in the next one.
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>>143084661
Mirage and Keith.
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>>143074400
>>143084662
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>>143084662
Well it says he's choosing to side with groups that are already losing, so you'd judge his performance on how they do compared to how they were expected to do, not necessarily on if they win or not.
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>>143084763
Keith is rayciss, he only wants pure Windermereans.

What if Hayate and Mirage dive together next episode?
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>>143084763
Mikumo and Heinz or we riot!
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>>143084810
Keith is the Ace of the opposite side and Mirage is in love with her grandparents romance. She's going to fuck him to 'win' against him.
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>>143084812
>Mikumo and Heinz or we riot!
Those will come after Freyja and Bogue.
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>>143084298
Hayate takes the dogfight with Keith under water to even the odds
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>>143084661
The whole Elysion. They lost Ragna and the rest of Chaos.
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>>143084810
>What if Hayate and Mirage dive together next episode?

I think that's reference to people diving into the ruins to stop the explosion.
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Ragna will be fucked up. Reina gave it a huge flag about getting bombed.
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>>143084802
Did someone say cucumbers?
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>>143078613
>Ichijo was a nobody faggot.
>Minmay deserved better.
>Thank god she avoided that loser.
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>>143081745
Which order should I be watching them in?
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>>143084887
They can't dive if they're under Var control
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>>143084802
Her rune shining shortens her life-time, it looks cute but it's mortal.
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>>143085349
From 1986 to 2016
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>>143085153
do you know if cucumbers with more bumps feel better too?
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I'm really not enjoying this series compared to 7, let alone Macross.

The animation quality and battle scenes are obviously far superior but the idolshit is incredibly offputting.

I prefer Macross's approach, in that music is incidental to the actual combat until the final battle or the most emotional scenes.
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>>143085737
>Windermemes in another universe
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>>143085764
What, you don't enjoy the space SKS/sporter AK/M14 action?
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>>143085737
>the idolshit is incredibly offputting
Go fuck yourself nostalgiafag. The idols are what makes this series great. How ironic you think highly of 7 yet shit on Delta when they work on the same philosophy.
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>>143086288
I don't think highly of seven. I like it more than this, but Seven cannot be forgiven for it's horrific animation and musical recycling during it's first run.

PLANETS

PLANETS EVERYWHERE

>idols making a series great
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Why is Bokura no Senjou so good?
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>>143086349
AND WE AT ROBOTECHX.COM ARE ALL LAUGHING
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>>143086288
Not that anon, but I hate idolshit and compared to Delta, I found Macross utterly boring for most of its length.
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If Freyja doesn't win I WILL RAGE against the heavens.
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>>143086578
Start raging because she won't win
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>>143086349
>he thinks idol singers doesn't make Macross a great series
Kek. The delusion is strong in this one.
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How did NUN get so many people to go flying out into space when there was only a few million humans left after first contact?

Cloning?
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>>143086639
>Cloning?
Partially. But I doubt the first colony fleets had any more than a few hundred thousand citizens on them.
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>>143086578
Not sure if she will win but Freyja have a high chance to win.
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>>143085737
I think it just comes down to personal tastes.
Although honestly, it feels like they've really been toning down on the idol stuff.
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>>143085737
pls, the idolshit only strong during the first four episodes, afterward you got more dogfights.
you're just being an autistic nostalgiafag.
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>>143074596
Use your brain for a seccond and dont try to create a meme over something that is clearly a mistranslation
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>>143075437
ugly old hag
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>>143087621
it has been established that it's not a mistranslation though
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>>143087652
That's not Kaname
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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