Kiznaiver

>>143049493
>create a study that fucks up a lot of kids and drains a lot of money
>In the end, the study is just to have humans do what humans already do every day
BRILLIANT!

>>143050058
Still better than study about dolphin language that ended up with woman jerking off dolphin to make connection.

>>143050092
>look it up
>it's an actual thing
Why would someone do that?

>>143050181
Hey, you get government funding you need to deliver something.

>>143050058
It's a wonder this shit even got funded. I mean the show.

>>143049493
Is there are reason you can't understand the difference between messages for the viewer and messages for the characters?

>>143049493
This is the dumbest line of the whole series. I'd like to make the excuse that they just forgot what empathy felt like due to the Kizna system but even that's too retarded,

>>143051931
It's a shit message either way.

>>143050630
> Everyday on /a/ appears Kiznaiver thread
> Sometimes threads even reach the limit.
> Anon asks why this show got funded
Seriously?

Given that 4chan (among others) has over the past 7 years convinced me that empathy is much, much rarer among my fellow man than my previously idealistic self had believed, I think that's pretty fair.

>>143050058
>>143049493

The point was to see if these kids would end up feeling empathy for each other despite the fact they're not friends and don't really care much for the other because of that. That's why they chose them in the first place. The Kizuna program was to see if universal empathy would be possible because if it is, then there would be no conflict.

But all they really fucking did was just force them to become friends and they ended up caring for each other. the Kizuna program didn't fucking do anything substantially.

>>143053165

No one convinced you of that nonsense. Empathy is inheirant in everyone and is common place wherever you go. Just because most of these faggots want to act like edgy little idiots for attention doesn't mean your fellow man rarely has it.

Okada's message in this show is utterly disappointing and had a huge missed opportunity. How she gets these gigs in the first place is beyond me with crap like this.

>>143049493
>and thus, MC and friends discovered that water was wet

>>143053106
>autists on /a/ are any indicator of the popularity of the show in Japan
wew

the irony in this thread is in people complaining that empathy is in everyone but can't empathize with the characters in the show

>>143053328

That isn't ironic you idiot.

>>143053328
I'm sorry I can't empathize with badly-written drivel.

Is this really going to be twelve episodes?

Well fuck you /a/. If you can't empathize with the semi-realistic characters in Kiznaiver then what can you fags empathize with?

God damn socially disconnected neckbeards.

>>143053328
>empathize with ultra shitty writing and emo melodrama

>>143053234
>Empathy is inheirant in everyone and is common place wherever you go.
>commony place wherever you go

not for people you barely know. The word you're looking for is sympathy. If an anon posted about how his dad died yesterday and his last conversation with him was an argument and he's filled with regret for that, other people probably wouldn't give much of a shit. Either that or just reply saying "wow man, bummer" but not really have the same kind of sadness this anon is experiencing.

To understand his sadness in this way is sympathy. You're sympathizing with this anon. If you actually start crying because you read this anon's dad died yesterday and he's really sad then you're empathizing with him.

Empathy is harder to display towards those not close to you than sympathy is. Humans sympathize more often than empathize.

Sympathy and empathy are not synonymous. Feeling sympathy can lead to eventually feeling empathetic, however.

>>143053527

The kiznaiver autistics are in full order. Maybe if they made this 26 episodes and gave the characters proper development, I might give a damn but as of now, nope.

This show was better when it was just SOL hijinks with Nico and Tenga.

>>143053527
>Kiznaiver characters
>semi-realistic
Maybe if you live in DramaQueenland

>>143050058
Is it government-funded? Sounds realistic then.

>>143049493
The point was most likely empathy between people who shouldn't gibe a shit about each other and normally wouldn't interact. The whole seven sins silliness.

Like linking slavers and their slaves except more half-assed.

>>143055324
>pick seven people
>each has his own annoying trait that the rest of them don't have
>"these are now the new seven sins"
This was retarded.

>>143056014
It does work for some though.
Kacchon is Sloth.
Chidori is Envy
Tenga is Wrath.
Hisomu is either Lust or Gluttony.
Yuta is Pride.
No idea for Maki and Nico.

>>143056230

.....no none of these work.

>>143050625
>something
Gallons of dolphin semen count for things like that?

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>>143056014
>never brought up again
>clearly making up shit as they go
>can't even call it an incoherent mess because nothing even happened
>2nd last episode, nothing's happened
>uh oh need a plot device!
>tang time

>>143056230
They don't work, but even if they did, they don't add anything to the characters other than shitty, beginner-level symbolism.

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I'm actually really curious about why anons enjoy this anime.
I'm not saying it's shit, it's pretty okay and I like it, but some scenes are incredibly cringe worthy. What exactly is the purpose of all this drama? They had a damn group spasm on the ground because they wanted to be friends? They're treating this subject like it's some kind of agonizing, abstract and philosophical problem. It's pretty much a bunch of kids trying to make friends. That Chidori is acting like a damn Vietnam veteran that's having terrible traumas and cries everyday because her crush doesn't like her back. I find it horribly exaggerated.

>>143050630
Some guy who doesn't actually watch anime thought that combining a studio with good art but retarded stories with literally the worst high profile writer would somehow make a profitable show.

>>143056602
>That Chidori is acting like a damn Vietnam veteran that's having terrible traumas and cries everyday because her crush doesn't like her back.

So basically, every teenager ever? Go out once in a while.

>>143053585
Empathy is actually just being able to relate to someone's feelings (whereas sympathy is feeling bad for them). It's not like a more extreme version of sympathy or anything. You can feel either one or both at the same time regarding whatever event another person experienced.

>>143056807

If you seriously think this is how the average teenager acts then you're definitely the one who needs to go out more. Fuck. You don't even need to go out to know how stupid this shit is.

>>143056940
>teenagers don't cry and act like the world is ending when their crush doesn't reciprocate their feelings

??? Holy shit, you're a literal autist. Stop trying to act like a normal human being.

I can't believe I followed this shitfest to the end. I don't like being negative about shows that haven't finished their course, so I was still hopeful that something would happen. But nothing did.

I wouldn't even have minded if it was a comfy SoL or the battle shounen it was intended to be but it turned out so fucking bad.

>>143057029
>Teenagers are all super emo and over the top and dramatic about literally everything
Not him, but I fucking love this meme. Just because you were an emo faggot in high school doesn't mean everyone else was.

>>143056807
What kind of teenager do think this happens to? Do you regularly interact with the mentally ill or something?

So, worst Trigger work?

>>143057150
Definitely, it was fucking irredeemable. Anime writers need to learn how normal people act and think instead of just lazily coughing up 7 shitty archetypes and calling it a day.

>>143057029
>Stop trying to act like a normal human being.

I believe the characters in this show need that advice more than I do.

>>143057088
>>143057121
>t. people who never had a social interaction in their life and got regularly shoved up into lockers

Hahahah, 4chan used to be for non-autists too in the past.

>>143057088
How would you even know? You have never and will never have a meaningful relationship with a woman :^)

>>143057211
Stop replying to yourself kiddo

>143057240
That's the not the case, you get people who only ever spoke with their mom in their life talking about human interaction like they know shit about it.

>>143057240
>>143057284
>Haha, I'll just shitpost and pretend that my faggot behavior was normal and they were all just losers who didn't talk to people
You have your 5 friends were the kids who shopped at hot topic and cut your wrists, weren't you?

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>>143056807
Shit man, I've had quite a lot of encounters with teenage girls, and this extreme behavior is typical to a 13-14 years old girl. If you're going through such a severe pain and you're 16 and over, you have a problem. Obviously, as you said, SOME girls do that, not all, but that doesn't mean they're normal. It means they're drama queens that suffer of hypersensitivity and have trouble controlling emotions.
My point was that this anime is exaggerated and adds a lot of drama on a rather common problem. We've all been rejected or had trouble making friends at some point, but we didn't violently shake in mud while screaming because the pain of being edgy is unbearable.

>>143057319
The posts were made within less than a minute of each other, senpai.

>>143057319
Uh, no

>praise the show for being a good soap box melodrama
>get mad when people call the characters unrealistic

Are you people stupid or something? Melodrama thrives on exaggerated characters and absurdly stupid scenarios for the sake of character drama. If anything, calling the characters unrealistic is high praise for this show since it's obviously trying to be melodramatic as all fuck.

Not everyone can feel empathy you know. It's far more common than you think for people to be unemphatic

>>143057363
Just stop, like this anon said >>143057338 talking to your mom about how they're treating you badly because they don't understand your genius during your whole adoscelence doesn't make you an expert on human interaction, autismo.

>>143053106
>some threads even reach the limit
congrats ur almost as popular as arc-v

>>143057319
I won't.

>>143057472
>praise
You realize that melodrama is bad, right?

>>143057546
Keep going, emofag.

>>143049493

Man Japan is really socially stunted as a society or at least the late night anime watching otaku this is aimed at are. This is probably like a huge breakthrough in interpersonal relations for them.

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>>143057639
There's no need to be upset Billy, someday someone will recognize your intelligence and wicked sense of humor.

>>143057639

I know. But people have openly admitted to liking this because they like to stupid melodramatic tropes it plays with so I'm here wondering why they're suddenly getting mad over characters being called unrealistic. It's like liking fastfood but getting mad at somebody when they call it unhealthy.

>>143057700
2013 called, they want their reaction images back.

>>143057700
You understand that the "wicked sense of humor" crowd that likes shit like Yahari is more likely to be an angsty awkward teen who overreacts to everything, right?

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STOP!

I know, I know, you want to tell the Kiznaiver defenders to shut up. You want to point out their disingenous arguments and scream about how Okada is a hack

But you don't NEED to! You see, Kiznaiver flopped! The first BD sold less than 1.3k copies, and that was with an event ticket!

The series is NEVER getting a new season. Trigger is going to LOSE money on it.

So just chill, and leave the thread. Don't engage with the Okadashitters. Just let them die in the wild, like they were always meant to.

>>143057795
You sound like the typical Yaharifag though.

>>143057734
There are a small number of people on /a/ who like eating shit. That's why some people pretend Okada is a good writer and teenage love polygons are a good plot device.

The rest of the posters will always call them retards and tell them they have shit taste.

>>143057801
Saving this for pasta reasons, good job shitposter-kun.

>>143057815
No, that would be the guy saying "You don't understand how teenagers are. I TRULY understand how they think and act, and it's like this. Anyone who disagrees isn't smart enough!"

You idiot.

>>143057830
>There are a small number of people on /a/ who like eating shit.
>t. Nasufag

How do I stop laughing?

>>143057884
>Nasufag
Are you retarded?

>>143057872
Confirmed for retarded buttblasted Yaharifag, who would have guessed, right?

>>143057419
>42:24
>43:35

Stop replying to yourself kiddo

>>143057923
You sound like a mongoloid tool so the only logical conclusion is that you're a Nasu shiteater, and I know I'm not wrong, mongoloid-kun.

>>143057872
Kill yourself you autistic piece of shit.

>>143057927
>Anon says that Yaharifags are retards
>"Ha! I knew you liked Yahari!"

>>143057976
>Don't have any shitpost fuel
>Call anon a Nasufag


Could the shitposters at least try? This is pathetic.

>>143058033
>Anon says that Yaharifags are retards
>"Ha! I knew you liked Yahari!"

Wow you just proved why I think you're a Yaharifag with your own fucking post, this is beyond "special kid" level, you're a new brand of retard.

>>143058091
Like I said, I know this is a Trigger/Okada show thread, but you really need to put more effort into shitposting than this.

>>143058033
>this other retard in the thread is a nasu shiteater too

The rule about Nasu shiteaters being retards never fails, you just know.

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>>143058133
>gets btfo
>b-but you're just a shitposter, muh okada thread

Hahahahah, kill yourself kiddo.

>>143058217
This is pretty pathetic. You must be Canadian.

I enjoy this show.

>>143058293
>tries to weasel his way out from the BTFOing he's receiving by scapegoating with A FUCKING LEAF

Not so fast, Charlie.

>>143058373
You understand that saying "HAHAHA BTOF!" by yourself over and over again isn't good shitposting, right?

Fucking leaves.

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I don't feel any empathy for kids ITT.

>>143058452
Neither is you existing good shitposting from your parents but everyone in your life and on this board already dealt with it.

Now go back to your canadian pancakes and get the fuck out, Charlie.

>>143058326
The show is good, there's nothing wrong with liking it. Good production value, writing feels a little forced at times but still at a reasonable level or at least, logical in hindsight.

>>143058526
1/10
I'm sorry, you're just not good at this.

>>143058533
I agree with you.

>>143058533
Now THIS is shitposting.

Just subtle enough to be believable, but still completely wrong and guaranteed to get people to respond.

>>143056602
I can't say it's shit either, but I can't say I like it. It's somewhere in the middle. I don't know why I keep watching it, I don't like this genre, but it's charming in its own way. At least the sakuga is good.

>>143058562
>m-maybe if I'll give him le ironic rating he'll leave me alone
>MOM they're being mean to me on the internet again

You're not escaping this, fuccboi.

I hope this director gets more work in the future and it'd be just lovely if Okada got less.

>>143058533
>there's nothing wrong with liking it
You will trigger kids and oher newfags without anime minimum who like Okada epic maymays tho

>>143058607
Well maybe it's because that's what I fucking think. Believe it or not, there are actual human being who like this anime for what it is, if you have a problem with that then spit it out instead of randomly shitposting while putting forward nothing of worth into the discussion.
Why do you even torture yourself by watching an anime you don't like? It's a rhetorical question in case you can't catch that.

>>143058762
At least nobody is taking Okada shitposters seriously anymore instead of wasting their time trying to reason with retards.

>>143058771
>>143058793
Hahahahahahahaha
Oops, sorry anon.

>>143058771
That's what I'm talking about, quality shitposting. It actually feels like you're a retard who's seen all of 20 whole animes and thinks that anything Okada writes isn't melodramatic trash of the worst kind.

This plot would make a lot more sense if the purpose of the kiznaiver experiment was to conditioned them to take empathy more seriously even after they're disconnected from the system, instead it's.
>Oh wow, you could feel empathy on your own. Man I wish we didn't blow billions of yen and years of research on the kiznaiver system.

>>143058685

Seriously, I'm surprised this is the first full length series he's directed. A bit sad he's handling a poorly written story but I guess it's a testament at how talented a guy is if he can make me forget even for a second how shitty the writing is because of how vivid the direction is.

>>143058909
(You)

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I thought the central message is how cute Nico is

>>143059036
This desu. I'm just watching it because Nico and loli Nori-chan is cute.

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>>143059036
That it was.

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>Trigger delivers a show with great animation, art direction and sound
>it's written by Mari Okada
Did someone get a monkey paw or something?

>>143058913
The purpose of the project is "world peace" but we don't actually know how are they going to achieve it with kiznaiver though.
>Oh wow, you could feel empathy on your own. Man I wish we didn't blow billions of yen and years of research on the kiznaiver system.
That's not the main purpose though, what Urushii said is more like "oh shit our project might has been pointless all along oh well".
Which we don't know if it's actually true or not because for all we know, had the project succeeded they might managed to implement it into some kind of social program to make people bond with each other easier, like you said
>conditioned them to take empathy more seriously even after they're disconnected from the system

>>143059531

I want to believe that the world peace prospect is all but a front to control society.

>>143057472
I thought Maki's episodes were melodramatic but I didn't mind them all having seizures in the rain. Maybe Maki's episodes didn't have enough relaxed moments or comic relief or something.

What does Japan think of Mari Okada? Do they seriously like her?

>>143059744
Of course not. They almost always laugh at her work and openly mock 'Mari believers'.

>>143059744
Considering Japan is the epitome of shitaste, no.

>>143059036
Nico is a pretty good girl.

>>143059531
An empathy booster for people who shouldn't care about each other? I could see that. Even for normal people empathy is a matter of degree and pretty weak with strangers usually. Conflicts of self-interest likely lower empathy too.

>>143059810
>t.IBO fan

>>143059036
Why does she type like a retard? Why does she use emoticons alot? Does she think that's supposed to be cute?
I didn't mind Nico's attention whoring but her typing the message triggered me so much this episode.

trigger, okada and kiznaiver are hot garbage

>>143053328
>empathizing with characters that arent realistic or even human

>>143059956
She was probably trying to emulate how the cool kids usually write to fit in.
OR, like you said, she thought her way of typing is legitimately cute.

>>143049493
This doesn't even sound like they forgot what empathy was. Even with the benefit of the doubt on the characters not being so retarded they forgot they could have feelings without being Kizna, it just sounds like Kizna physically conditioned them to feel deeply uncomfortable when another Kizna seems to be feeling uncomfortable.

It's not even empathy, it's just Pavlov, which is equally stupid.

Asenshi's out

>>143059744
>Do they seriously like her?
Fuck no. I was reading some 2ch threads about IBO and they were absolutely ripping her apart.

There's probably just some casuals with shit taste in Japan that buy her stuff, the same way western anime/mangafags have high school club tier retards who think Naruto and Inuyasha are the epitome of the medium.

I'm gonna ask it here too: an anon posted some translations from a Q&A about the finale. Does anyone have the full interview?

>>143059744
I remember a 2chan thread back then that wondered why the western fanbase was so much more receptive of Okada. I honestly don't know myself as well, is melodrama just a more well-liked genre in the west? Is there just a more distinct split between anime viewers and dorama watchers in nipland?

>>143059744
Considering both memeyoiga and memenaiver flopped hard, no. IBO only sold because Gundam brand.

>>143059744
Why are you asking EOP shitters?

>>143060567
Why are you even asking an obvious question? Japan has shitaste, the west doesn't, we knew that already.

>>143059744
Only when she's with Nagai. Thank god the elevens have some semblance of taste when it counts.

>>143060712
２ｃｈのみんなは岡田の物語が大嫌いだけど

>>143060719
>Hating on Okada is shit taste
Found the retard

>>143060567
The nature of western serial programming is that things will inevitably go to shit before eventually getting cancelled, so pretty much everyone is trained to have selective memory loss about the bad parts in order to enjoy what the show used to be like.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention how beautiful this episode was, that lighting and coloring man.

>>143049493
Okada is japanese OP.

>>143061477
this entire show is beautiful man. It really disappoints me that people hating on are playing the "muh okada" boogeyman and ignoring everything else about it.

>>143059338

Fucking this. Holy shit. They can really make it look good without Imaishit's wackiness but fuck me they just had to be paired with Okada.

>>143053418
They didn't even need 11 episodes to get where they are.

>>143061054
>m-muh meme Okada shitposting

Fuck off already mongoloid

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What would happen if he became the MC?

>>143061531
Where you at? Everybody keeps praising everything else in the show especially it's visual direction. Even the god damn Okada shitposters admit that that's the only thing salvaging the show. People acknowledge how shitty the writing is despite everything.

>>143061669
It would become another generic haremshit for subhumans.

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I can't stop laughing.
Best part of the episode.

>>143061635
>Hating shit writing is a meme
Ok.

Trigger didn't fund Kiznaiver though and Luluco is gonna bring some sweet jap shekels

prepare for the newest Imaishi mecha show they finally have ZENI

>>143062283
>Luluco is gonna bring some sweet jap shekels

HAHAHAH, best shitpost I've seen all day

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>>143062283
You have to go back.

>>143062773
But reddit is more likely to lap up melodramatic garbage, you idiot.

>>143063151
You should know considering you came from there, you dumbshit.

>>143063242
I know you're trying really hard to out someone as redditor, but when you use a frog image all it does is show that you're crossboarding scum.

Lurk a little longer before you try to fit in.

>>143063291
I'm not trying at all considering you out yourself well enough already.

Now you can either lurk 2 years before trying to shitpost, badly, or fuck off to the shithole you came from.

>>143063469
>you out yourself well enough already.
I guarantee I've been here longer than you have, and I've never once been to reddit, but don't let that stop you from shitposting.

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>>143053255
Oh you

>>143050092
I heard an episode of Radiolab that had an interview with her. I thought I'd understand the whole thing a little better after hearing it, but nope. The best explanation there is for jerking off the dolphin is "eh, something's gotta work right?"

>>143053218
>The point was to see if these kids would end up feeling empathy for each other despite the fact they're not friends and don't really care much for the other because of that.
What, the entire point was that the government couldn't figure out that it's possible to empathize with people you don't know?

>because if it is, then there would be no conflict.
That's absolutely fucking retarded. Who thought making this anime was a good idea? Was it one of those things where everyone knows it's a shitty idea but nobody wants to be That Guy and point it out?

>>143053585
>If an anon posted about how his dad died yesterday and his last conversation with him was an argument and he's filled with regret for that, other people probably wouldn't give much of a shit.
a) it's a fucking anonymous imageboard, of course people are generally going to be ruder and less empathetic. you massive jackass
b) even if they didn't give a shit, anyone who had a similar relationship with their dad or even anyone who knows what it feels like to be overcome with regret over smth you can't change would be able to deeply understand the feeling, even if they don't post about it or cry about it. that's what empathy is. all it is is being able to put yourself in the shoes of another more fully than with sympathy, usually by having experienced something similar to them

>>143064012
>Was it one of those things where everyone knows it's a shitty idea but nobody wants to be That Guy and point it out?
That happens every time Okada does a script.

>>143063807
I think she just wanted to beat off a dolphin, really

>>143065692
You're better off just avoiding the threads till the finale anon.

This anime is truly an example of Beautiful look but full of bullshit inside....

>>143066890
"All style with absolutely no substance" is Imaishi's MO. It looks like Trigger is following in their daddy's footsteps.

>>143066953
I was ok with everything when I first start this 11 weeks ago, and by god right now I want a fucking time machine to went back to that day 11 weeks ago and slap my fucking self and tell me do not download this anime.

make it simply it remind me so much of that P.A works where bunch of emo teen at the sea sometime see the future and not even relating a shit to the show.

>>143053106
>> Everyday on /a/ appears Kiznaiver thread
>> Sometimes threads even reach the limit.
>> Anon asks why this show got funded
>Seriously?

if all of /a/ is only the same 30-50 autist triggerfags who post in kizneiver threads circlejerking about this trash, then sure, you're right.

hate to tell you but this show has a fanbase of 30-50 people on /a/, and about half of those troll the shit out of this trash.

>>143067126
Nagi no whatever, that other shitty teenage love polygon melodrama?

Yeah, they're all shit.

>>143067182
Welcome to /a/

>>143064179
>usually by being a pussy.
FTFY

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It's okay, Imaishi will save us.

>>143067361
When that remix ed kicked in, maximum justice

>>143050092
>Peter the dolphin fell in love with her and when she left at the experiment's end, he committed suicide.
HOLY SHIT

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Things would've been a lot better if some old faceless man had just broken her with his cock.

>>143068093

That's why we have doujins

>>143053328

You call those walking plot devices "characters".

They're all the same stereotypes lifted from other Okada dramas anyway

Also includes her trademark "unlikeable childhood friend bitch who never gets the MC"

Another show that would be somewhat better with 24 episodes

That last 22 minutes episode is going to be an absolute shitfest and I cannot wait.

>>143069790
They wouldn't have needed 24 episodes if they had used their time sensibly.

>>143069790
Making it longer won't fix shit fundamentally shit writing.

>>143069972
What's the best written show of this season then?

>>143070283
Kuma Miko.

>>143070283
Concrete Revolution. That one actually could have used a few more episodes and done without the some of the guest writer episodes.

Okada's writing is absolute shit.

>>143070810
>Revolution
Revelutio*
Fucking auto-correct

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Quick, anyone got a gif of the MC crying from the previous episode?

>>143070810
>concrete shit
>good writing

Nice meme

>>143069790
Only if they filled the new episodes with more content instead of dragging out the old drama. And I'd place no bets on that.

>>143071133
>I got mad when I couldn't follow it for 3 episodes, then I got more mad when I couldn't shitpost about how it didn't make sense because someone made a flowchart
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Go on and explain what was wrong with it's writing, being sure to explain it in a way that actually shows you watched and understood the show.

I love how the shitposters in this thread stopped complaining about autism MC cause the show fixes him and relentlessly attacks this one scene that's reasonable in the characters context and uses this new development as a reason to keep shitposting.

It's like damage control but it just goes to show how stubborn some people are..

Don't get me started on the folks that pit this show against Luluco, despite the studios supporting each other's work and being different shows. Holy fuck.

I'll admit the writing is fucking sloppy but the show is nowhere near as bad as you guys make it out to be

>>143071519
He's just not worth talking about.

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I want to kill Tenga.

I was fine with the episode until it got to this point, I hope Okada never writes anything again

>>143072729
>I hope Okada never writes anything again
Despite many people sharing this sentiment, she has yet to stop.

So, what was the point of this show anyway?

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>>143072644
Still best boy.

>>143071251
How about you go on and explain to us what's wrong with your retardation?

>>143049493
I though the Kizna system was a metaphor for any system that forces you to be along (and cooperate with) other people. Like most people usually become friends with their neighbors, classmates, co-workers instead of random people.

Additionally you tend to lose those friends as the link ends (like you stop seeing people from your school once you graduate even if you were the bestest of friends back then)

>>143072729
That's like asking Sawano to stop making music. They'll just do more and more when people want no more.

>>143072729
People were saying this 10 years ago with True Tears. Expect AT LEAST another 10 years of Okada.

Strangely enough this show reminds me alot of True Tears. Emotional pain is a big theme in both shows. Both shows also have detestable females like Noe and Chidoori. They redeem themselves at the end, but ultimately lose MCBOWL. Noe and Chidoori fags BTFO.

I'm more surprised that everyone got heartaches over Kacchon. I mean seriously? Why would anyone in the group give a single shit about him outside of Chidori? He barely talked to anyone.

>>143073413
They were all pretty surprised as well, I'm sure they thought it was some effect of the Kizna system at first because they are not the types that had real friends before.

They realized though that they had shared these experiences with Kacchon, and because he and the other were present, the experiences seemed less difficult. Which was proof that they had become true friends, and feeling real empathy was part of that as well.

>>143073602
Anon you can't analyze and understand the plot you're supposed to mindlessly shit on it.

>>143049493
see >>143055419

its aots confirmed by /a/ f*ck off

>>143073286
No? Didn't think so.

>>143066953
Atleast you can enjoy imashi work, can't say the same about kiznaiver

>>143073693
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

>>143074002
I can enjoy the first halves of his works, but when his "real" plot kicks in they're just as bad as Okadashit.

well I'm glad I got off this ride.

I sat in for 3 episodes but as soon as I realized this "world peace" shit was reminding me too much of what was trying to be achieved in this Wii game called "Fragile Dreams" which accidentally resulted in an apocalypse, and was equally retarded, I got off as quick as I could.

Why is empathy such an alien concept to the Nips.

>>143049493
>Surprise! I rehashed the ending of M3

Damn you Okada

>>143074348
>Why is empathy such an alien concept to the Nips.
It's just Okada. The fine Otaku down at 2ch hate her as well.

I did not expect Norichan to go full KizuReich

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The moral of Kiznaiver is that trying to turn everyone into TANG is fucking stupid.

>>143056380
>.....

HOW TO FIX KIZNAIVER IN ONLY A FEW STEPS:

Make the setting late-stage capitalism Japan, like 2100. All the worst fears about the slowing birthrate are coming true, and nipland is a nation of hikkis and autists, people addicted to new-age VR facebook and shit. The experiment is now not about something as fucking dumb as world peace, but getting the detached, socially dead society to empathize with real people again.

The Kizu system is not some dumb, flashy, unrealistic, and impractical surgery, but conducted by injecting nanobots into the bloodstream; these nanobots migrate their way into the nerves and sync up with one another to transmit pain. After a few months they run out of power / get chewed up by your immune system / whatever. Much easier to swallow and makes a lot more sense. Get rid of the confetti too.

Make the characters actually unlikable, unreasonable autists - basically just accentuate their personality flaws. So Kacchon is actually legitimately detached, Maki is even more withdrawn and melodramatic, Yuta is a complete narcissist instead of just kind of, etc. (All except Hisomu, take out the S&M part and just make him a hikki. Everyone else stays pretty much the same) Have these people actually spend time (24 eps) working through their problems.

Message of the show is now that the purity of the human mind must be preserved even in the face of absolute control of technology over our lives.

>>143075305
>I did not expect Norichan to go full KizuReich
Or simply throw the original idea of the show into the trash can because the god damn Idea about pain connecting and try to make it look cool is cancerous as hell...

The original idea of Kiznaiver being a battle shounen would have turned out much better than the shit we got.

Fuck you Okada.

>>143056230
Why r nips obsessed with the seven deadly sins and tarot cards for that matter?

>>143076334
The one time where it would actually be appropriate to call something 'edgy' and you go for cancerous. Tsk.

And the whole point was that it would be less edgy and more about the value of humanity

>>143056807
stop invalidating peoples' reasonable hate for shitdori being a piece of shit. you assholes do this enough everywhere else. let this be a chidori hate zone safe enough for our bitching and venom.

This feels more like a critique towards M3 in some way.

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>>143056602
/a/ will hate almost anything simply because they think everything they encounter is retarded and beneath them. Most of the shows this season were surprisingly good, in spite of the fact that they are drowning in autistic salt.

Pic related is the very best thing about this show. If we don't get a Nori-chan end then I'm going to riot.

>>143078854
It really is. It feels like this Okada's own hateletter to all her previous work except she still uses the same old tropes she always did so everything feels really fucking ironic.

Nips are robots with human skin that would ignore people being harassed so they sometimes need shows like this.

>>143080273
How do we motivate the Nips to become better people?

Chidori is best girl!

>>143080463
>chidori is best human toilet
fixed it for you. that's the only purpose she better have in the final episode, that or death. after dumping her petty bitching on everyone else and not caring about their feelings all this time, all she deserves is to be shit on big time.

>>143080696
You sound really angry there anon. Chidori really didn't do anything wrong.

>>143080273
>>143080385
The problem is Okada doesn't want to understand no matter how hard she tries, her words will never reach the hearts of the person. No wonder why she really wants to write anime aimed to children. I wish I could remember the source about this.

>>143080750
yes she did? she literally admitted it last episode? chidori a shit and I hate her guts.
if okada forces her and tenga together, shed abuse and suck him emotionally dry of all his positive capabilities until its too late for him to realize he was just a rebound for her to crave dick from. cry more chidorifags.

>>143080839
No, she didn't do anything wrong because she's a teenage girl and teenage girls are usually like that. It can't be helped.

It's good that she realized it and will now work to improve it. I doubt she likes tenga, but good for her if she ends up with him.

>>143067217
>>143067126
they're both written by Okada

is there no good r34 of this show? i feel like it supplies the perfect amount of material but i'm yet to find anything substantial

>>143050058
>just to have humans do what humans already do every day
Kill each other?

The moral of the story is that redheads are selfish and the worst.

It's 2016, and you're still watching shitty seasonal anime instead of watching classic series that might change your life?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>143081617
That's because Nori-chan is purity's true form and must not be corrupted.

>>143082545
A few things are wrong with me, but doing whatever the fuck I want to isn't one of those things. Go drown yourself.

>>143049493
The message is stop being neet and get out of your house

>>143049493
The message is that if you're a higher power with plans of subjugating the entire world by using a strange Orwellian system to numb society, don't ruin your plans immediately by hiring incompetent fuckups who're going to use it on shitty hormone-charged teens.

>>143083072
>who're going to use it on shitty hormone-charged teens.
But how else would Okada write shitty melodramatic love polygons that only a mouth breathing retard could find enjoyable as drama?

>>143083256
I enjoy it and I'm legitimately not retarded. Why are you assmad?

>>143083349
>I enjoy it and I'm legitimately retarded.
We know, anon.

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i want to serve the Nori kiznareich

>>143050092
Don't forget the part where both the woman and the dolphin dropped acid

>>143083391
>duuur I removed a wuuurd

Your post is literally made of sodium chloride, holy shit.

>>143083446
>you will never watch Esdesu and Nori-chan engage in pure girl-on-girl activities

>>143083659
>I'll use the scientific name for salt to prove how smart I am!
Too bad that no amount of pretending to know science can change the fact that you enjoy melodramatic garbage of hte worst kind, and that melodrama is a term used to describe shitty drama. Sorry anon, but if you like Okada's writing, you're a retard. It's just a fact.

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>>143083759
>I'll use an old fighting game meme!
>That'll show him that melodrama isn't literally drama for idiots!

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>>143083810

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>>143049493
Don't care i only watched the anime just to hear the child voice actress anyway.

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>>143083843
>Grrrrr I can't actually refute that I'm enjoying a genre named for being crap
>I'll shitpost harder!
Literally and objectively retarded.

This episode was really awkward. It really seems like they are just making this up as they go, nothing seems to fit together.

It's very pretty though.

This show has failed to convince me that these people are friends. Most of them are just friend of friends at best.

I think this episode was the first time Katsuhira even talked to Maki.

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>>143049493


BRAVO OKADA
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This show manages to get worse after every episode.

>>143056602

All these dumb kids suffer about the most inane shit, and that is even accounting they are dumb teenagers (for Chidori mostly) and they usually would cry for a couple of days and move on.

If there is any true victim in this show, is those other kids they fucked up with their dumb experiment and now are literal dolls.

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>>143053328
Exactly
Pic related is what NEET life without going outside does to people

The circlejerk in this thread is embarrassing to read.

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>>143050092
>>143067692
>you will never be loved so much by a dolphin that she commits suicide when you leave

>>143085441

Okada

>show finally stops being shit and becomes decent
>the stupid ending of this last episode happens
There's no fucking way this is going to have a redeemable ending.
At the very least, the aesthetics and OST of Kiznaiver are pretty neat.

>>143086540
>Imply the shitfest of episode 9 never happen

>>143085746
Okada could create a perfect masterpiece that could never be surpassed and the threads would still look like this.

>>143087143
Nobody thrashed Hanairo or even the first season of WIXOSS. Fuck even the first few episodes of IBO didn't get that much flak.

If she wrote well then she won't get shit.

>>143086540
This is the worst part of it. The plot actually gets going and you begin to get invested in everyone's feelings and they turn around and tell us that the "special bound" between everyone was basic empathy, that Chidori's angst can be cured with one phonecall and that Nori-chan is literally feelings Hitler.
The only thing still good at this point is the eyeball porn, and even then the quality drop was very noticeable in this episode. I mean, Honoka's face was literally flat.
I waited for Asenshi for this shit too.

>people actually watched this shit
Nice to see that even the braindead 12 year olds and assorted fujoshits can wake up eventually.

It's a shame it took you almost a dozen episodes to understand something that took one look at the synopsis and staff listings to drop.


I wonder how long it'll take you guys to realise that Trigger has never made anything even slightly passable?

>>143087433
Thanks for the bump friendo.

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>a bunch of autists discover empathy

>>143087745
They could just have not had the whole experiment device at all.

>>143050092
And this is when you know that Western Civilization has reached the tipping point. Degeneracy overwhelms us, shokun. Only one man can save us now.

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>>143049493
How does Okada keep getting away with making shitty anime? Who the fuck keeps giving her money?

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It's pretty shittily done, but I had to try and string it all together.

Also to note, Inferno Cop is only 21, and Nova is 13, so Luluco has to precede the events of Kiznaiver.

>>143083728
>>143083728
What's bad about Wondering Son and Aria?

Bravo Okada, by this episode I literally hate all the charcters, can't wait this to end next week and completely forget about it.

>>143053617
this

>>143076415
She isn't the one who wanted to do the drama. They asked her to do the drama when she was already there during the battle shonen phase.

>>143087143
>Okada could create a perfect masterpiece
No she couldn't. You need talent for that.

>>143087345
>they turn around and tell us that the "special bound" between everyone was basic empathy
It's almost like people have been saying the entire premise is fucking retarded because people have empathy, and the idiots who think Okada can write said "No, it's not the same thing!" when the show started.

I hope they feel extra stupid right now.

>>143049493
There's a difference between empathy and literal pain sharing. At least the latter can be useful in combat for a disciplined squad

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>>143059036
Nico is perfect

At least Chidori is over Kacchon.

>>143093325
lol

Okada is a fucking shit writer

All her shows are carbon copies of eachother with the same, dull, inhuman plot devices she tries to pass off as "characters"

Why is she writing character driven dramas when the characters barely pass as human beings and are as relatable as martian robots?

Also nobody has told her that overly possessive, bitchy childhood friend characters that never get the MC, are NOT GOOD and she needs to STOP PUTTING THEM IN EVERY

SINGLE

FUCKING

SCRIPT

>>143093597
What the fuck am i even reading?

>>143049493
>preview about Tenga reject Nico
>It didn't happen
HAPPENING LADS

>>143080765
Can you elaborate further?

>>143080273
Not only nips are like this these days, it's worldwide trend now

>>143093464
Why lol? She seems like she is over him.

>>143087345
Is it really any worse than shows that use the power of love as some super power?

>>143093464
>lol
Please never post on /a/ ever again.

I like Chidori because she isn't a jealous girl and is able to control her feelings well. She is also not prone to bitchfits and is nice to Kacchon even if he isn't giving her the D.

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>Kacchon finally chose best girl