Trunks

>>142919885
sure

>>142919885

Given he was starving from a lack of food, I doubt it.

>>142921917
If he goes ultra super saiyan and dies does he leave more meat on his corpse to eat?
This is important.

>>142919885
Reipu is always the best answer!

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>>142919885

>Fucking Mai
About as far as they'd have got was cozy mutual snuggling.

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>>142922647
No because he's using Ki to bulk up and Ki is basically your spirit/will
You die and those muscles deflate like a balloon

>>142919885
Judging by Dragonball Super, he can't. He seems to have forgotten how to turn super saiyan, or fly.

>>142924310
Would his meat be affected negatively or positively?
Would it be like eating puffer fish or would it harden up due to being over stressed?
How delicious is fresh trunks?

>>142923949
>24 years ago
>Nip sitting watching Androids Saga
>"You know who this Trunks guy would pair well with? Mai from Dragon Ball."
>Everyone called him a retarded crack shipper
>Fast forward to 2016
>Vindication

>>142919885
Don't you know, that form may be powerful=thick, he won't be able to 'hit' her efficiently and he'll tires faster.

>>142919885
Since the penis is a muscle do you think Sayans can use this mode to make it bigger just like the rest of their body?

>>142924388
All sayans and fighters in DBZ probably taste like shit, there is a reason why we confine our cattle, the more they work out, the more stress their muscles get and the harder to chew they become
Some one who lifts tastes pretty bad already, imagine some one buff like that, horrible

>>142924942
Maybe they become so lean they end up tasting like chicken.
They can fly afterall.

>>142924897
>Since the penis is a muscle
It's not, it's spongy erectile tissue like the inside of your nose.
When you have a blocked nose it's just a nose boner.

>>142924459
As popular as DBZ has been, I know there has to have been athe least a few hardcore crackshippers who wanted to see this specific pairing happen so badly. They must be in paradise right now.

>>142924459
>Implying he is not the one writing it now

>>142924942

Goku was tough enough to take bullets as a kid, good luck even getting your fork in.

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This is probably one of the most autistic threads I've ever seen.

>>142925358
You must be pretty new here then.

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>>142925335
He could take rockets. But nowadas they die to weakshit guns if their guard is down, so their meat is just as soft as a normal human's.

>>142925909
>A shitty rocked from a RR grunt and advanced alien technology are the same thing

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>>142926046
The shitty rocket probably packs more punch than the shitty decoder ring laser, from what we saw.

There's a reason only the weakest in Frieza's army use blasters. They don't have the technology to beat ki blasts in sheer power.

>>142919885
>When Tunks was fucking Mai,

Never happened. Mai died pure before the halfbreed could ever touch her naked body.

>>142919885
Since she isn't in a wheelchair I'd say no

>>142926119
The Freeza army blasters we've saw are from ~15 years ago. They could have improved in the meantime.

That said you still have a point Sorbet's ring never appeared to be that powerful before his sneak attack.

>>142919885
>this same Trunks can't give Black a good fight


TORIYAAAAAMA.

>>142926724
>They could have improved in the meantime.
I'm sure anon, but back then they couldn't hurt people with powerlevels of 10k. There's no way they could come up with something that could stand up to gods in that time.

>>142926790
Trunks forgot how to turn super saiyan or fly. Or maybe toriyama forgot that he could?

>>142926790
That bulked up form was a piece of shit though.

Why people think that was any good? An entire episode was spent on mocking that transformation and explaining why it was a terrible idea every other Saiyan and Cell knew would be useless.

>>142926843
Yeah because he should just be flying around in SS2 form when he was trying to hid from an opponent he can't beat.

I think it's pretty obvious Black dominated the sky at the moment. It would be a pretty stupid idea to get up there.
And why would Trunks turn Super Saiyan if he knows it would not improve his chances? That's just wasting energy for nothing.

>>142926878
Because even if the bulked up form was bad, the middle ground form was at least much stronger than the regular super saiyan.

>>142926960
Oh no you're right, he was fighting an opponent stronger than himself so the correct choice was to make yourself literally 50+ times weaker. Great plan anon.

>>142926960
>That's just wasting energy for nothing.
I want this stupid meme to die. Super saiyan doesn't waste energy for shit, and even if it did, it's a FIFTY TIMES POWER BOOST. Being able to run away from your enemy fifty times faster sounds like a good fucking idea.

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>>142919885
If he had the chance, sure.

>>142926790
>shitty cell-tier transformation
>doing something against Black

Is Mai still a Christmas cake trapped in a young woman's body in Trunk's timeline?

>>142927047
>Super Saiyan doesn't waste energy

Well Elder Kai said back in Buu saga transformations do waste energy. That was the point of Ultimate Gohan.

But I agree that does not apply much to SS1, the cost benefit is still good. It's from 2 and up the boost is not big enough to justify using it out of desperate situations.
Even Toriyama has said that SS2 and 3 are the ones where the power up isn't worth the effort and Goku would focus on training base AND Super Saiyan 1 instead.

>>142919885
>>142922926
>>142923949
>>142927048
>>142927094
From my understanding Mai is a gag villain from the original DB who has now been turned into a waifu.

None of that matters though because
>cute
>hime cut
That alone qualifies her as best girl seeing as how Chichi and Bulma are too old and Videl lost her personality.

>>142927349
About Videl, while I also don't like how bland she is at times in new material, in what little we see of her in DBZ Epilogue she also was mellowed out like that. Only we assumed she became softer like that over the years, not right after getting saiyan dick inside her.

>>142927461
>Videl went from rebellious tomboy to loving submissive wife after getting regular doeses of Vitamin D

Gohan's true potential was never his ki growth, it was his dick all along.

>>142927245
Form 2 is still ridiculously cost effective. The only forms that ever displayed any prohibitively energy costs were trunk's transformation and the SS3.

It's honestly really funny, they made a big deal about how Goku's perfect SS form had no energy drain or emotional turmoil (he stayed in the form for weeks or months), but then in Super they come out and say he couldn't do Kaioken with Super saiyan because "energy drain and emotional turmoil". Jesus. And this AFTER they did the thing with hit, where Goku says himself that SSB drains energy so he didn't want to waste it at the start of the fight.

I don't think the writers of super watched Super or Dragon Ball themselves.

>>142927658
Even after mastering it the Super Saiyan is likely still not the safest of forms for things like Kaioken and Genkidama. I think no matter how in control they are, when powering up SS1 the emotional turmoil part returns.

That was a debate long before Super came around.

>>142927805
>That was a debate long before Super came around

Sure, and we concluded combining the boosts just didn't work. But now they do, and the REASON they say it works is bullshit, because by the show's own explanation and scenes, Goku's SS1 is actually a lot more suited for it than SSB.

>>142927658
SS2 was never shown enough to know for sure.

I agree only SS3 was meant to be the wasteful one from the start, but since around BoG Toriyama has been pushing SS2 being like that in his interviews. I guess he just doesn't like the form much.

>>142927805
>and Genkidama.
Also what does this have to do with anything? He doesn't use the Genkidama as a super saiyan because it's a technique for when your own power doesn't cut it, it's independent of his own.

>>142927884
>SS2 was never shown enough to know for sure.
We saw it enough. No one ever complained about any energy drain in any of the fights. Sure, it PROBABLY tired them out somewhat, but not so much that they had to avoid turning SS2 to save energy.

>>142927881
The reason I've seen most people advocate over the years is that SS1 when not in that powered down state Goku and Gohan were before Cell Games, still can't keep it's fury/emotion in check enough for either Kaioken ki-control or the Genkidama (which requires a pure and still heart) to be safe.

That seems to be the route Super has taken as well.
But no gotta complain about everything and cry about they not caring about DB or something.

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>>142928001
>still can't keep it's fury/emotion in check enough for either Kaioken ki-control

But that's horseshit, nothing ever suggested this at all. It's just a thing we have to accept because Super SAYS it's the cause, but Super also says it has energy drain and we know that's pure bullshit.

>>142928001
>pure and still heart
Every time some new power comes up they say it requires a pure heart, and it never fucking does.

>>142928072
>they say it requires a pure heart, and it never fucking does.
It's still the reason the series states.
If you want to complain about DB internal logic not making sense, that has been a thing since early Z or before.

>>142928166
>It's still the reason the series states.
And the series is not to be believed because it's demonstrably full of shit. Vegeta is now a SSG, and that also required not one bit SIX PURE HEARTED SAIYANS

>>142928235
>>142928166

To finish this dumb argument: the only way to enjoy DBS right now is engaging in a lot of doublethink. Whatever the show says has to be true at the moment it is said, no matter what it contradicts until it's contradicted later, simply because it has no semblance of consistency. If you can manage that, Super can be enjoyable perhaps.

>>142928072
I always got more the impression Kaioken was rendered useless by Super Saiyan.

Super definitely changed things here, but I don't think the explanation they came up with is as bad as you say.

There's also the issue that Toriyama did change the rules of Super Saiyans transformations as a whole since he got back to Dragon Ball. He made the "energy waste" thing that was only evident with SS3 and mentioned in throwaway comments from Old Kaioshin to justify Gohan's new power up in Buu saga more proeminent.

>>142928235
SSG required six pure hearted Saiyans, gaining godly ki through spending time training probably doesn't. SSG was just a quick fix for Goku to be able to quickly take on Beerus without having to train first.

>>142928283
That is true for Dragon Ball as a whole.

>>142928285
>I always got more the impression Kaioken was rendered useless by Super Saiyan.
That was my opinion as well, but super has a way of making very dumb retcons like "gods can die to guns".

>>142928325
Not true at all. DB-DBZ had some errors here and there, but overall it had a semblance of consistency. DBS just throws everything in the same pot with no rhyme or reason.

>>142928318
>Training to be a god

That's EVEN DUMBER than vegeta having a pure heart.

>>142927349
Isn't Mai technically older than all of them?
Kind of a weird reverse honey trapping sort of deal.
Not that i'm not into that, but it's still abnormal.

>>142928365
>but super has a way of making very dumb retcons like "gods can die to guns".
That was movie, Super retconned how that happened to something that made technically a bit more sense

>>142928392
>technically a bit more sense
Not much, see: >>142925909

>>142928235
>>142928318
I was rewatching Battle of Gods the other day, and I noticed this popping up during the God Ritual. The other images are all from planet vegeta, great apes, and the sillhouette of the original SSG. This Vegeta looks out of place.

If they already had a rough idea that Vegeta would get a god form later on, could this be meant as foreshadowing of some sort?

Also worth mentioning when Goku is trying to stop Beerus' final attack his second wind comes in the form of a bout of blue energy.

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>>142928484
Forgot pic.

>>142928365
>DB-DBZ had some errors here and there, but overall it had a semblance of consistency.
No it doesn't. Z particularly discards or changes shit pretty often.
You're just giving it a free pass.

To mention the most obvious one veryone let's pass, Vegeta turning into a Super Saiyan, omething said to need a pure heart triggered by anger, through training and with no pure heart (before anyone brings his "pure evil" comment, if that was so why there weren't more Super Saiyans around?)
Yet everyone complains about how Vegeta becoming a SSBlue doesn't make sense.

That is a double standard because DBZ was long ago and people can try to make sense of it, or pick and choose what the "true" rules are like by looking at the whole picture, but it was almost as much of a mess as Super is.

>>142928365
Gods in the DB universe have never been gods in the traditional sense. They're just people with extraordinarily huge power. And even then, most of them had already fallen far behind Goku before BoG. Remember that Kami used to be God of Earth and Goku surpassed pretty soon. And Supreme Kai was supposed to be a God of Gods and he was pretty much useless in a fight compared to the main characters by the time he first showed up.

The whole ritual thing was just that. A ritual. It wasn't necessary. And we don't even know if the "pure hearts" thing was even necessary. It was a legend passed down by idiot fighting space monkeys. It could be wrong, just like how other legends have been wrong in the past. Remember when in the Frieza saga they thought that there was one Legendary Super Saiyan but then everyone turned into a Super Saiyan in the Android saga? Remember when they thought Piccolo was a demon in DB but then he turned out to be a member of a race of space slugs? Remember when they said that in order to revive someone with the dragon balls you needed to have the corpse and then that stopped being a thing near the end of the Frieza saga?

You're being this autistic over an unconfirmed legend being wrong and you don't even remember that it's happened before.

>>142924315
If Black figured out how to sense his ki the best move was to lay low and run. Even in Z some characters did that instead of flying to stay hidden.

Reminder, he will cuck his younger self.

>>142919885
why the fuck is his hair blue now? tell me toryiama forgot

>>142930902
toriyama forgot

>>142930902
It's some confusing nonsense about how Bulma's hair color was supposed to be purple but Toei kept fucking it up and now they made future Trunks' hair the same color as Bulma's as it was originally intended, but now they both have the wrong hair color and present Trunks still has purple hair. It's better to not pay attention to it.

>>142927349
>None of that matters though because
>>cute
>>hime cut
>That alone qualifies her as best girl seeing as how Chichi and Bulma are too old
>>142928388
>Isn't Mai technically older than all of them?
>Kind of a weird reverse honey trapping sort of deal.
See------>>>>142927349
>None of that matters though because
>virgin
>hime cut
She can be 10000 years old and jap otakus would still cum buckets over her as long as she's an autistic virgin too.

>>142930902
>>142931044
In the manga Trunks and Bulma have the same hair color. Used to be purple in the original (save for a few illustrations where it's blue for some reason).

Since Toriyama got back working in Dragon Ball he has drawn the hair of both of them dark blue.

So some people think since he makes the new character design for the anime it made sense in his mind Trunks had blue hair like the newer Bulma design he made.

If anything Toei is at fault here for neither changing it to purple or changing Kid Trunks hair to blue as well.

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>>142919885
>Tunks

>>142925358
How did christian get so bad

Why do people care so much about Mai?

She's fucking DEAD.

>>142926119
did you miss the conversation where frieza told him to use it beforehand if he started to lose the fight?

ring probably stores and concentrates Ki and Frieza himself loaded some of his into it.

>>142932545
>implying

Hasn't Trunks timeline Goku dies of magic aids?

Who is Niggergoku?

>>142933367
We don't know

Is this the Mai thread?

>>142937736
Not yet. Let's see how long /a/ can go without making one. It'll be fun.

>>142937736

Maybe? I'll go with what >>142937790
said, though.

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>>142937736
it will be soon

I'm really not feeling the soundtrack for DBS in general.

It hit me with that future Trunks episode. Even GT had some memorable tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnSXX2qGdVw

>>142938724

You just remind me how I felt like turning the volume off when Goku appeared to face Beerus. That music was blecgh...

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>>142938724
a chunk of that soundtrack sounds like circus music, but you're right.

that said, I wonder what the fuck happened with the american soundtrack to GT. I remember Bruce Falconer had nothing to do with it and went for a vibe that was too serious for the series.

>>142925070
yeah, both of them

>>142927349
>From my understanding
go read it you idiot, even if just the first nine volumes

>>142941435
They are a miracle of the universe.

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>Harvesting lettuce and carrots

I GET IT

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>>142925909
>>142926119
>Retards are still confused by this
Seriously?

>>142925909
why was early Toriyama's art so much better than the shitty art during the cell saga?

>>142942095

There was nothing wrong with the art during the Cell Saga.

>>142942095
>Implying
Toriyama's one of the few long-term mangaka I do not think degraded over time while the manga was running

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>>142942095
Because you're retarded

>>142942285

Why are Toriyama's fights superior to other shounen manga?

>>142942285

>Stop fisting me!

>>142942324
He's a genius (in art)

>>142942255
I just hate how blocky and angular everyone looks later on with the saiyan hair. I also love how early DB had this like comicy strip feel to it, it was cool.

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>>142942324
Toriyama or Murata in action scenes?

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>>142941435
have them team up with Trunks , Goten and perhaps even Marron for some random misadventures and you would have a comedy spin-off in the making

>>142942324

Yay something I can post on (I don't watch Super, I'm pretty purist).

Toriyama's punches have a lot of weight to them, and as an action series should, he focuses on the sheer cool factor, so a lot of his panels are sharp and dynamic (the Super Saiyan hair's spikiness really helps with that). The action is also really brutal. In the manga, Gohan kills one of the Cell Juniors just by bashing its head open with a quick swipe.

>>142942564
Murata does better spectacle. Toriyama better choreography.

>>142926960
That nigga facerolled 2 planet busters in his first episode. Walking was really the best way he could come up with to get around?

>>142942285
>>142942324
>>142942831

Too bad Toriyama has lost the abilities to draw them anymore.

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>>142942847
He's walking/running because Black can sense ki (I'm guessing this is a new development for him since he says "now") so even doing a little bit of extraneous movement would set him on to him.

Gohan and Krillin did something similar on Namek to avoid Freeza's men's Scouters

>>142942899
He hasn't drawn manga in like 20 years with the exception of Jaco and probably doesn't even want to expend that kind of effort

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>>142942831
>In the manga, Gohan kills one of the Cell Juniors just by bashing its head open with a quick swipe.

>>142942940
>(I'm guessing this is a new development for him since he says "now")
Sometimes I wonder if he can learn techniques just by seeing it or he learns at the moment. his fucking cell isn't he

Where were you when Mai was best girl?

>>142943352
Watching Dragonball as a kid

>>142943433
dayum son

>>142919885
>>142943006
When is someone going to rip the rest of the Full colored manga?

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>>142943352
I believed it from BoG

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>>142943433
This. Her GT appearance was saddening, though. Rageworthy, in fact. It was like saying she never settled down to try and start a family or something.

Pic related, when my anger boiled.

>>142944449
>Everything with the Pilaf gang has been a joke
>The second Toriyama steps in, they show up more often and one of them has a role in the plot for a ship that he himself made

Sasuga

>>142944589
>Everything with the Pilaf gang has been a joke
Well yeah, Toriyama was responsible for that too. Just not GT. GT wasn't a joke, it was an abomination.

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>>142944269
At least they had a final moment with Mai feasting on Trunks's meat

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>>142944449
seeing that scene gave me an amount of heartbreak.

>>142944892
I'm just gonna act as though it's not canon. Because, it's not. DBS, for better or worse, is, though I'm a little peeved they did remove the Mai involvement in the BoG arc.

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>>142944984
Well luckily Toriyama was like "screw that"

Though I think because it wasn't in the arc, they're going to put it in this arc instead. Though unfortunately there won't be the "I'm touching your chest" or the "well maybe we could hold hands? HOLD HANDS!?" scene

>>142945110
Either way, as long as they make up for it in this arc and touch my heart boner, I will be happy.

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>>142941435

>>142944449
you just don't want to see them like that. Not like GT writers cared or something.

Even Toriyama himself already found them too old during BoG for a reason and de-aged them.

>>142945234
I'm okay with her growing old eventually, but only after she is able to settle down. I refuse to believe all those 60 or whatever years she didn't even try to find love even once and totally stuck by Pilaf with not even single evidence of fucking HIM, if she never had kids.

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>>142945234
>for a reason

They are around Goku and Bulma's age chronologically speaking. That's why he preferred to have them interact with the younger characters, like Trunks and Goten (and Pan, if you consider that one episode)

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>>142941435

>>142919885
when do you get time to have sex in a dystopia?

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>>142944878
And Trunks got to touch some pussy

Do you guys think Videl is a virgin?

>>142945635
That is one happy cat.

>>142945662
Of course. I'm sure that your mother is a virgin as well.

>>142945662
Well, seeing that the only on-screen baby making seen was Piccolo's, I'm inclined to say yes. But, Videl has more likely hold hands with Gohan, so that's a no.

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>>142945635
>>142945737
>That is one happy cat.
yup. With Mai petting him. it's no surprise

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>>142945662

>What a stupid question! My mom is 100% virgin

>>142945662
Are you the same fag that confuses Videl with Pan and now with Mai?

>>142945560
All the time

>>142945932
Do you think Pan and Goku fucked whenever Trunks was sleeping?

>>142947193
No, that's disgusting. Trunks fucked Pan when Goku was asleep though.

>>142947324

Not even that.

It's widely known that GT Trunks was a royal faggot.

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>>142927048
Actually getting that chance would be his biggest challenge

>>142943479
Chinese have already done it, you just don't know where to find it

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That ginyu spirit

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Does anyone have a translation for this pic?

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>>142949289
the lack of a future goten counterpart in that pic is making me believe the stupid black is goten theory

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>>142949289

>>142950070

The cat is Black.

>>142919885
Mai is too pure, Trunks never fucked her

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they pulled the blanket over his head, future trunks is dead

>>142950319
Don't be silly. They're just trying to hide him from the kids.

Besides, how would you feel if your mother started fawning over a young man who looked like an older version of you?

>>142944449
I feel more sad for the old maifags who left this world knowing, and in denial, that their waifu ended up like that.

>>142950070
I want to make love to Mai's tummy here.

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>>142942571

>>142949923
How is it stupid? It makes perfect sense. Goten looks a lot like kid goku. So it's natural he should grow up to look like him. He has on a fusion earing though so there may be something evil controlling him.

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>>142951138
because goten was never born in that timeline

and even if somehow goku fucked chi chi before dying we never saw him before


like even if somehow he was born in that timeline and he just was away in another place while gohan and trunks fought the cyborgs, there is absolutely no way he could be stronger than trunks so he could not e a bad guy even if he wanted too trunks would have stopped him easyly

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all i want to see in the next episode is trunks reacting to krillin and his family

>>142951335
Sorry familio. According to the autists that write up the wiki on DBZ shit, Goten is actually porn the same year that Goku comes down with his heart illness. That is to say he's likely only a few months younger than Chichi who is likely pregnant at the time that Trunks comes back. So given that she isn't instantly murdered by the androids, it's possible that Goten lives. They never specifically mention whether goten dies or not. Gohan was alive at once point so it's feasible.

>>142951539
Forgot my link
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Age_767

>>142951421
Trunks already knew the androids in the main timeline aren't evil. I doubt he's going to mind that Krilling and 18 got married.

>>142925092
>in the Philippines, there is a cover band that only does Journey songs
>the lead singer of this band ends up becoming the lead singer of Journey itself

>in Japan, some hack thought up of a fanfiction pairing between Trunks and Mai back when he was a teenager
>now he's a writer for Dragon Ball Super, and his headcanon is canon

Gee, Asian people get all the success.

>>142951635
It doesn't count as fanfiction if Akira Toriyama did it.

Does it?

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>>142951568
Goten was conceived in the time before the Cell games. The Dragon Ball wiki uses bullshit sources like the guidebooks and the anime which contradict the manga.

I wonder what Bulma thinks of Trunks dating Mai.

>Bulma
>heiress to Capsule Corp., the biggest company in the DB universe, with a monopoly of many different industries

>Mai
>a communist

>>142932545
I don't mind that she's dead, but they really shilled the fuck out of her existence when the saga was first promoted.

All I can think about is how they wasted an entire character.

>>142951699
I wonder how hard goku fucked chi-chi given he was a ssj for that entire week.

>>142951821
Bulma never had a problem with Oolong being a commie so she probably wouldn't care. The Dragon Ball world is very tolerant.

>>142951568
Wouldn't he be the same age if not older than trunks? Isn't Goten like a year younger?

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>>142951539
>Goten is actually porn

>>142942831
To add to this, Toriyama puts clarity of motion above all else, and that's something a lot of artists aren't capable of.

>>142952028

I forgot that Oolong was also a commie.

>>142942285
>2000x3000 scans
>quality is shit

JUST

what release group did that regardless

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>>142952622
That's VIZ, you can tell by the English sound effect.

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>>142943006
>we'll never have good scans or rips of the color manga past the saiyan saga

feels bad man, I really love their color pallete.

>>142952664
Well then who uploaded the rip/scan of it regardless?

Same goes for your image, i'm on a quest for the best scans possible of the manga

>>142952526
They're both from the part of Dragon Ball where Toriyama was trying to make it as Chinese as possible.

>>142951635
Jokes on you, I'm between successful and shit.

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>>142942324
Toriyama was a genius when drawing action scenes. Everything feels dynamic and the attacks seem to hold so much weight, they feel strong. No other mangaka except, maybe, Murata can convey that.

>>142952718
My image is straight from the Kanzenban (It's in Japanese, but it has all the original color pages in color). Aside from a few minor plot corrections and like three pages at the end, this is exactly how Dragon Ball was released originally.
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=149389&showfiles=1

I don't know where to get the viz scans. The place I downloaded from ages ago doesn't work anymore. You can probably find them on google if you look.

I think this torrent has all the best scanlations.
https://bakabt.me/details.php?id=173878&page=1

There are still no halfway decent scanlations for Cell or Kid Buu so you'll just have to use Viz for those.

>>142951699
But how much time was there between the cell games and the first Android? Like a month maybe?

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>>142942564
Murata's mentor

>>142952859
I think Gash Bell did a pretty good job with it during it's later arcs, though I don't have a good image showing it off

>>142953083
It's actually more like a few weeks. You think Goku couldn't fuck in that week even while being killed by his disease?

>>142953083
Goten was almost definitely conceived during the week before the Cell Games while Gohan was on Kami's lookout and Goku and Chichi were home alone together.

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>>142952859
I was going to post my favorite page from the Kaioken x3 chapter but then I remember that they're all my favorite pages.

>>142953350
In the main timeline yeah. Who's to say they didn't get busy on gokus death bed one last time?

>chichi gives birth to goten in a world destroyed by the Android
>everyone else is dead and he grows up like an unrestricted saiyan would

>>142953585
wouldn't he probably catch the disease that way?

if he's black then expect him to be unstoppable but then just die of saiyan aids before getting to kill our heroes

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>>142953141
>>142952859
Found a pair of pages that show a decent example

>>142953016
>>I don't know where to get the viz scans. The place I downloaded from ages ago doesn't work anymore.
It wouldn't happen to be that one guy who cataloged his scanning progress and such on a tumblr page, would it? I recall his were pretty good, but IIRC he also did translations so it's probably not him

Do you know who i'm talking about, by chance? Probably not since he already did cell and was doing the majin boo arc last I checked a year or two ago

>>142953741
I don't think it was contagious.

I hope when it turns out to not be Goten at all, people aren't like "Fucking hacks, that doesn't line up with my stupid theory at all!"

>>142953856
Don't worry, anon, I am 99% sure Black isn't Goten. Toriyama is not that smart to pull a twist like that.

>>142953907
No, he's smart enough. But he probably doesn't remember goten exists

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>>142953763
https://zqscans2013.wordpress.com/

This is the only guy I know of who is scanlating the Buu Saga. He says he's going to finish Buu then go do Cell, but he uploads very infrequently lately.

Mofogoku did everything from Kami vs Piccolo up to this page, but he quit a while ago and his wordpress is gone. If you're not thinking of one of those two then I have no idea.

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>>142954034
>Mofogoku

Yes, that's who i was thinking of, I thought he got up to the boo saga? I remeber seeing some of them on his progress blog. Maybe he had somebody else help him for those?

Is there still a place to get his scans?

Whoever did these color manga rips or whatever just do the whole series please

I don't even know who made them, pretty sure this is downscaled from the original rar I got it from too so it is postable

>>142954183
that page makes planet conquering look comfy

i bet that alien arm tastes really good

>>142954183
https://mofogoku.wordpress.com/

You can download all of his volumes here. His posts are gone but the download links are still on the sidebar. The password is "dinky".

The full color scans are also from Viz. Dragon Ball has been more popular lately with all the new movies and stuff, so they re-released the manga in Japan but with color added to every page. Viz has only done the Saiyan Saga and the start of Namek I think. I'm sure they'll release the whole series eventually.

https://shonenjump.viz.com/dragon-ball-full-color-freeza

Here's the official website if you want to actually buy it. I don't know if it's uploaded anywhere, I'm too much of a purist to enjoy non-canon colors.

>>142954287
I can confirm that planet conquering is incredibly comfy, especially if the planet is full of weak things, like puppies or children. And if that alien is from the race I think it is, they have particularly juicy palm meat. Like bacon, but with the consistency of soft beef.

>>142954287
He didn't even finish it. It's probably not that great.

>>142954287
I bet it tastes like chicken.

>>142954556
>The full color scans are also from Viz. Dragon Ball has been more popular lately with all the new movies and stuff, so they re-released the manga in Japan but with color added to every page. Viz has only done the Saiyan Saga and the start of Namek I think. I'm sure they'll release the whole series eventually.

They started to do the freeza saga a few months ago.

I'd buy them but I their digital releases are only viewable via some app of theirs and i'm not dealing with that shit. I'd buy them then rip them if the resolution is good but I have no way of knowing what the resolution is.

>>142953856
If it does turn out to be Goten, other people will say that. Someone will say that no matter who it is.

>>142954623
I'm sure anyone who actually cares about the plot gave up any hope for quality when there was an arc about fucking Freeza coming back to life.

>>142954695
See? You're saying it right now and it's not even something that required a retcon.

>>142954712
Unless you count Freeza's soul still being intact even though it contradicts what Enma says happens to evil souls in the Buu Saga.

Also the ridiculously messed up power levels, but that's not really retconning as much as just disregarding continuity altogether.

>>142954811
So how did Vegeta get revived in the Freeza saga? He was still evil back then. Plus, did he specifically say that those souls couldn't be revived by the dragon balls?

>>142954925
I think the wish was to revive those who were killed by Freeza and his minions. That's why Vegeta revived, but the Namekians he killed didn't, since he wasn't working for Freeza anymore back then.

>>142955041
Yeah, that's my point. When has it mattered if someone is evil or not when it comes to being brought back to life by the Dragon Balls? As far as I know, never.

>>142954925
Vegeta was only dead for like an hour in the Freeza saga.

In the Buu Saga he was dead for about two days. Enma said something like "It's a good thing I decided to keep your soul out of hell" which implies that if not for Enma then Vegeta's soul would have been unrecoverable by then. When evil people are finished with hell, they get reincarnated as a new person. We don't know exactly how long it normally takes, but Buu was reincarnated in a matter of days. After over 15 years, Freeza would have been living as a completely different person.

>>142955105
It matter when the wish is specific about it. For example when they revived people that Buu killed, I think they specifically asked for evil people not to revive.

>>142955209
That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about what happens to the souls of evil people after they die.

>>142921917
starving from lack of food, the worst kind of starving.

>>142955125
Before reincarnating, the souls have to be purified. We don't know how long that takes. I doubt it's the same for everyone. Freeza is evil to the core which explains why he couldn't be purified even after years of listening to the angels sing to him and stuff.

>>142955125
I'm pretty sure none of that was explained. When Enma said that good thing he didn't send Vegeta's soul to hell, I'm pretty sure he said that because, as you remember, Vegeta was sent to Earth to fuse with Goku after their original plan to have him fuse with Gohan failed. And they wouldn't have been able to do that if he was in hell. I think what Enma did was also have the foresight to keep his physical form so that he could fight, which is something that is only done in extraordinary occasions like when Goku was allowed to keep his so that he could train with King Kai. But none of that has anything to do with the dragon balls.

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I don't watch Super, did Toei remember that the Androids have been dead for over 3 years and that West City was being rebuilt? I know they forgot 22-year-old Trunks' manly chin.

>>142955377
Doesn't matter. Black destroyed everything again. In fact, he destroyed it even more.

>>142941659
what in the fuck are you talking about or even responding to

>>142953763
The Faudo arc are better at showing it off.
Best to show the Fango+Zaruchim fight.

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>>142955330
It was all explained.

>>142943006
Holy shit thata some of the best artwork ive seen

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>>142955518

>>142945635
Just realised this scene was a lowkey sex inuendo. If only there where dolphins and shit then i would have known

>>142955518
>>142955617
That still doesn't contradict Freeza's revival. He never said how long it takes to purify a soul. I don't see why it couldn't take longer to purify Freeza than Buu. And even if souls don't get sent to the same place, they never said that this would make it impossible for the dragon balls to bring them back to life.

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>>142955617
I don't have this page in English but you get the idea. Freeza shouldn't have been able to be wished back because he shouldn't have been in hell anymore, he should have been alive as a different person.

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>>142955473
I don't have good scans of the faudo arc downloaded at the moment, though I can fix that momentarily. Isn't the Zaruchimaru fight mostly fango just being a bitch though?

I'm actually also in a search for good gash scans if you know of any, the only really good ones I can find is the clear note arc on mangasaurus, which don't have credits pointing me of where I can find who did them, and the faudo arc on br.mangahost (pic related) which isn't helpful since it's in Portuguese

I can't find any english scans, decent quality or not of that oneshot gaiden chapter that came out period, actually.

>>142955616
Coloring manga really doesn't work often but something about tori's art just makes it look twice as good with color.

>>142955798
Also shit I never realize ted litterally punched whateverhisface's skin off his leg before, you can see muscle tissue and shit coming out

>>142955773
No, he would have been alive as a different person if he was already purified. These guys are Shintoists. You don't just go to hell for a specific amount of time that is the same for everyone and then get reborn. You're punished for your evil deeds specifically. And there's a huge difference between Buu and Freeza because Buu was a wild animal that didn't really know any better and just destroyed because it was in his nature. It makes perfect sense for Freeza to have to stay a longer time in hell. And since they never said that the dragon can't bring someone back to life if they're in hell, there's no contradiction.

>>142926119
>>142925909
>>142926724
>>142933141
>>142941705
The most reasonable theories are as follows:

1) The defense on defense off theory.

2) Freeza charged beam theory.

3) "Ki cutter" attack type beam like Krillin's Kienzan + distracted Goku.

>>142955440
He means Kakarotto is harvesting carrots. And saiyan names are closely related to vegetables.

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>>142952859
>No other mangaka except, maybe, Murata can convey that.

What about Nakaba Suzuki? Any of you guys read Nanatsu no Taizai?

>>142955928
Buu wasn't a wild animal. He clearly enjoyed himself as he was torturing everyone. He could have easily killed Mr. Satan with one hit but chose to break his nose instead. He even made fun of Goku. Wild animals don't do that. That doesn't really matter though, the reason Buu was reincarnated immediately was because Goku asked for it.

But Vegeta's soul would have been purified after only two days or so. Freeza was in hell for 17 years. Even if you refuse to believe that Freeza would have been reincarnated by then, his soul definitely wouldn't have been the same as it was when he was alive. And if Shenron wouldn't fix Freeza's body for free, why would he fix Freeza's soul?

>>142956258
He's thinking of fat boo

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>>142956288
We're talking about Kid Buu, Fat Buu never went to hell and got reincarnated.

Also, here's a page where Kaioshin calls Kid Buu evil (悪). He's not a neutral destructive force of nature, he's just crazy.

>>142956288
No, I'm thinking of Kid Buu.

>>142956258
Yes, he was like a wild animal. Lots of animals play with their prey. He clearly couldn't tell right from wrong. The whole point of Kid Buu was that unlike Super Buu, he had gone back to his primitive self, which was incapable of doing anything other than destroying.

And purifying a soul isn't an exact science. Freeza was clearly resisting it and there really didn't seem to have been much progress by then. There's absolutely no reason to believe that it should have been a faster process than this.

>>142953789
It actually was, which is why Yamcha and all the Z family also took the medicine. Trunks mentions it's a virus.

>>142956416
The reason to believe it should have been a faster process is that Enma said that Vegeta's soul would have been purified in two days. There are literally two panels of exposition that I'm referring to and I posted both of them, I don't know how much easier I can make it.

Kid Buu was pure evil, Kaioshin says as much. When Mr. Buu was cut out Super Buu's evil didn't just vanish. Kid Buu wasn't as smart as Super Buu, but he was just as evil. Being naturally destructive doesn't exculpate him anymore than being naturally an evil dick does Vegeta.

>>142919885
>Vegeta's soul would have been purified in two days
Didn't Vegeta die trying to protect the Earth from Buu? Also here >>142955518
it seems like he accepted his fate.

Not really that comparable to Freeza.

>>142956385
Are you from Kanzenshuu?

>>142956786
Meant to reply to >>142956705

>>142954556
>I'm too much of a purist to enjoy non-canon colors.

What does that mean?

>>142956705
Those panels explain how long it would take to purify Vegeta's soul. It doesn't take the same amount of time for everyone. Knowing how long it would take for Vegeta is meaningless when trying to know how long it would take for Freeza because they're completely different people and they died under completely different circumstances.

>>142954617
>but I have no way of knowing what the resolution is.
Wouldn't it be the same as these? >>142954183 >>142952718

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>>142956828
The colors in the full color manga were added in like 20 years later and aren't by Toriyama. They look too much like the anime for me, I don't really like them. Maybe I'm too picky, but the kamehameha should be white, not yellow.

Plus they replace Toriyama's original colors which looked much better.

>>142949923
Only the pure sayan have a fix hair

>>142956795
No I'm just /a/'s resident mangafag. I don't actually speak Japanese, but I basically have the whole thing memorized so I just had to look for the kanji that had "aku" next to it.

>>142956974
wasn't the kamehameha in the anime bluish?

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>>142957189
I think it switched back and forth between blue and yellow in the anime. There's only one on a full color page in the original manga though, and it's white.

I don't have the Full Color manga so I don't know exactly what it's like, but the page with the Kamehameha and the Galick Gun has them both yellow, and that felt really wrong for me.

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>>142957204
I like the original the best.

>>142925070
I can only imagine how that feels to have your crack ship vindicated. I'm happy for them.

>>142919885
She'd be literally fucking obliterated, bro. His power is maximum.

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>>142927461
Gohan in the end of DBZ tells Videl that they should have joined the tournament rather than be spectators where they could be seen by everyone. So Videl must still know how to fight

>>142919885
Unfortunately his increased girth would be offset by his loss of stamina.

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>>142956905
I'd assume so, but if i'm wrong I don't want to have wasted money

>>142956974
See, I disagree, i think the color manga looks distindtly like tori's original color pages. The shade of orange orange on goku's vest and pants there for example, piccolo's arm muscle things being yellow, not pink, etc.

>>142957204
That's a shitty comparsion, the original manga colors section there is from entirely different panels when Freeza is using Nova Strike (as that attack is called in the games)

In the full color manga he has the pink aura too when nova strike is used, same for the anime, pic related

>>142957189
>>142957350
Anime always had the kamehameha in blue (well, white with a blue outline) though I think it may have been yellow once in DB, but for Z it was always white with a blue outline unless it was with kaioken.

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>>142958353
Maybe if I were an art person I could describe what I don't like about them. I'll just post a comparison. This is a page from the Full Color manga that I just got off of google.

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>>142958433
And here's the original

>>142958433
>>142958455
Other then the obvious increase in vibrancy, it's pretty faithful, with the only notable changes being the colors of the grass, kame house, and shade of orange on krillen's shirt.

Personally I like how vibrant it is, but if you don't I can see why it'd be off putting

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>>142958565
Yeah, I guess it's the brightness I don't like. It makes me feel like I'm reading screenshots from the anime.

>>142951821
Mai is literally a monarchist
She just wears that coat because it's cool as fuck

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>>142958661
Yeah I know that this page is cheating, but just look at it.

>>142919885
That form was shit. It was proven that all the power that comes with it is pointless if you can't hit anybody with it.

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>>142924942
>Some one who lifts tastes pretty bad already
Experts talking

>>142952718
is there a place to get the rips of the colour version that do exist? I'd love to read through as much as I can

>>142959183
Here
Dragon Ball Full Color - Saiyan Arc (Akira Toriyama)
https://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=643757

No one has ripped the Viz Namek arc or JPN raws yet unfortunately.

>>142959238
Appreciate it

You'd think for a series as big as dragonball there'd be a huge fan effort to rip the whole set as soon as they were out.

I mean considering how quickly the One Piece fanbase got their shit together ripping those colour editions

>>142959402
Everyone just watched the anime. It's why these threads always suck so much.

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>>142959183
I'd give you my rar where I sourced that image from (which I had to scale down, actually), but I don't know where it is.

I'm worried I lost it myself. Here's another though from what I doenscaled to post, maybe you can use it via reverse searching on the arhives to find it, since I got the rar off /a/

>Bought the orange bricks
>Check a few favourite episodes
>It feels claustrophobic
Mistakes were made.
Now I worry about the full colour manga being censored like all of the translated releases are.

>>142958353
>I'd assume so, but if i'm wrong I don't want to have wasted money
Ask here
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=25607&sid=0bded7129d58b5ac0efc22c854a79ec8&start=560

>>142959707
Speaking of, does anybody have the nyaa links for that guy that was doing releases of the dragon boxes that looked really good/didn't have grain out the ass?

Somebody here linked me them like a year or two ago.

>tfw 4:3 uncropped blu rays with some cleanup and noise reduction but not airbrush oil level like the bricks never

>>142959886
>didn't have grain out the ass
Grain is literally the best thing you can hope for with analog sources. The single specks of grain is literally the detail in the film.

Also I think that torrent is dead.

>>142960705
>Grain is literally the best thing you can hope for with analog sources. The single specks of grain is literally the detail in the film.

It's possible to remove enough grain to make it not as bothersome while still keeping enough detail.

>>142960705
>Also I think that torrent is dead.

I'd like a link regardless, maybe I cant rack down who made it with it and see if they could send me their stuff.

If you don't have one for it, just tell me what you think is the best torrent for the blu ray sets and the dragon boxes (I don't know how the japanese ones compares to the US ones).

I'd prefer the highest quality possible/with extras even if the file size is disportionately larger

Also, would anybody be interested in high res scans of the box art, disc art, and booklet extras from the US dragon boxes and orange bricks?

I spent a while gathering all of them 2 years ago, as far as I know i'm the only person online who bothered to compile a complete set. I'd actuallym be interested in handing the stuff over to a release group for them to release and ioffer a torrent for if anybody has suggestions

I think a got a lot of them from DBNL(?) to start with though so I should probaly ask them. I don't want to get whined at that I used their scans of the shit and released it to somebody else or something, as if whaty they were doing wasn't piracy to begin with

>I didn't save the most badass Madara vs Guy video.
>Now I have to sift to this shit

I truly hate all of you. It was a fantastic compilation with breaking benjamin and paying guy a tribute.

Now all I get to have is "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH" all day here.

>>142951699
Chichi is so cute there.

>>142959402
/co/'s threads will probably rip Dragon Ball Full Color: Freeza Arc when it's out in full on comixology (only first volume is out so far).

I've constantly posted links to Japanese digital versions of it, but no one's bothered/I don't think /co/ knows how to rip from Japanese sites. I'm sure enough of us could get off our asses to typeset and edit if they did.

>>142961372
>I've constantly posted links to Japanese digital versions of it, but no one's bothered/I don't think /co/ knows how to rip from Japanese sites.

if I wanted to do this how would I?

>>142961437
I'm not sure myself. Where to purchase though:

http://plus.shonenjump.com/item_list.html?SEARCH_MAX_ROW_LIST=30&item_list_mode=1&keyword=DRAGON+BALL+%E3%82%AB%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC%E7%89%88

Top rows are bundles in arcs, books for 500円 are individual volumes. Preview pages are in the individual volumes, click on the eye beneath the cover.

>>142955440
Lettuce=Tullece
Carrots=Kakarot

i love these threads

>>142965141
Me too.

>>142919885
This is my favorite form of my favorite character, so of course minimal use in the show, no figure, rarely in vidya.
USS Trunks fan is suffering

>>142967770

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boAp6GMTn0I

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>>142919885
LOOK AT ME
I'M TRUNKS
PLEASE LOVE ME MAAAAAAAAAAAAAI

>>142919885
With grown up Mai out of the way, do you think Trunks will go back in time to cuck his younger self and fuck loli Mai?

>>142971216

No.

But Kid Trunks will definitely get jealous.

I want to hold hands with Mai.

>>142972878

How gutsy!

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Chichi x Goku is fine too.

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>>142942571

>>142972878
Going that far already...

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>>142948768

Freeza ain't that bad, he is just a hardworking CEO of a multigalaxy successfull business.

Look at his workers conditions, well fed, 24hour doctors with a top of the line medical facilities, a full time fitness program and a comfortable single seater spaceship.

I say Freeza's clients are the evil ones that demand planets that are already occupied, and Freeza knows that the client is always right.

Wait what? I haven't picked on track with DB for a long time but when did Mai (best girl) became the best girl again?

>>142976606
She already has the potential way back in her first appearance in DB.

Back then however Bulma was young and sexy. Few years later Chichi was a cute tomboy.

During DBZ she was nonexistent. Eventually Videl came around and she was an even cuter tomboy than Chichi.

Fast forward even further to Battle of Gods and the result is that Chichi, Bulma, and Videl have all lost their appeal meanwhile Mai stayed as cute as ever and was transformed into a loli.

It was also revealed that she's apparently an 11/10 on the purity scale so if that's appealing to you then all the better.

>>142919885
no because regular SS has more staying power

>>142922926
They owned a cat together. Pretty much parents 2bh.

>>142967172
>useless form
>useless character
I mean, I'm not saying it's wrong to like something useless. But to expect it to be used? That's called denial.

What if Black is just a fucked up Goku who got super strong in the afterlife and resurrected himself? You know he has Instant Transmission for now and there's nothing stopping him from going back and forth from realms yeah?

>>142967172
>This is my favorite form of my favorite character, so of course minimal use in the show
Because it canonically is a shitty form that does not work.

Also why do you like it so much?

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>>142976728
Revealed, I would dare say they implied it long ago. Her reaction to "the treatment" says a lot by itself. I hate to use GT as an example but the fact that she grew old and never had a single fling or birthed a kid is pretty sad.

BoG is more like telling someone who couldn't pick up the hints directly to their face that she's very inexperienced in that sort of thing.

Even this doujin artist managed to pick up on the fact, unlike other doujin artists who turned her into a cockhungry slut.

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It's kinda amazing seeing Mai make a comeback and getting more new fan art and stuff.
Never imagined that after Z

>>142977032
I like that it looked a lot like mr. Briefs' cat

Why doesn't Future Trunks just beat up kid Trunks and fuck loli Mai?

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>>142977234
>>142977568
I've just had a thing for big guys and dramatic change after transformation.
Big, hulking motherfuckers are fun in fights

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>>142978771
>I like that it looked a lot like mr. Briefs' cat
Yeah. who knows. Maybe the cat was a descendant of that cat and gifted to Mai by Trunks

>>142919885
Honestly, and this is me being a nerdy little shit, but you ever think that somewhere out in those millions of splintering timelines, Trunks just continued to fucking power up until he went full Broly?

Got so many muscles to the point of impracticality that if he ever went LEGENDARY Super Saiyan, he loops right back around to speedy as fuck despite the bulk?

>>142979500
If Trunks went legendary he'd explode out the end and pop back in at SSJB tier strength with a SSJG style physique.

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>>142981179

>>142941705
I still don't understand this pic. Power level is just Ki. Vegeta lowered his weaker than Krillin's. 1% of SSB is still going to be way over 1,000,000 (like 100x conservatively) and what any fodder weapon is going to be capable of hurting

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Thank me later

https://www.thetshirtcollection.com/collections/tee/saiyan

>>142983368
why would anyone want that shirt


do you want to be a wizard anon?

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>>142983473
>why would anyone want that shirt

14 year olds and fedora edgelords, obviously

here have some more

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>>142983526

>>142954287
If you're on a foreign planet, YOU'RE the alien, not the local population.

>>142983473
For me, I only have three more years to go, but I don't need a dinky t-shirt to help me with my progress.

>>142967770
Everytime I see a shitty idea coming from Toriyama, I see DBH ideas and I feel better

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>>142983526
they don't havre monet why would you want to appeal to them


be more subtle with your designs and you will get money from al the closet weebs in theworld

>>142983368
>>142983526
>>142983557
Good gym shirts.

>>142979500
>do you think it's possible that a canon character became like a non-canon character

If you're really a nerdy little shit, then you're a stupid nerdy little shit.

>>142983368

I want the Ghost Nappa one.

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>>142983718
working in dragon ball heroes must be really fun

if i were the guy in change i would give a promotion to the guy who came up with the idea of Baby Hatchiyack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6DTyZfshI0

his non canon level is over 9000

>>142983795

I love that one.

>>142985442
Cute.

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>>142985442

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>>142975498
Agreed.

>>142987365
I wonder if she'll ever put on lipstick and eyeshadow again, knowing that she obviously couldn't worry about makeup in a crisis like that. Then again, her face shape is drawn more like a standard DBZ character now, so I guess it wouldn't be as effective, but I'm just curious.

>>142959554
What was the name of that Vegeta's attack? And why he didn't use it again?

>>142989892
>I wonder if she'll ever put on lipstick and eyeshadow again,

IIRC in the original manga she never really wore makeup, it was only in the anime for some reason.

>>142989981
>She never had blue eyes

>She never wore make up

Goddammit, Toei.

However, I recall she at least used lipstick? Does anyone have any manga pages to check?

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>>142989981
Oh, you're right. In any case, DBS Mai's eyes look a bit bigger than her DB incarnation. I guess because she's physiologically younger.

>>142989954
Galick Ho/Galick Gun

>>142945635

Is that the cat that was always on his grampa's shoulder?

>>142989954
Galo Saiyan.