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WHY HE HAD TO FALL IN LOVE WITH A JOBBER LIKE TRUNKS?!

>>142763006
Already dead? Seriously?

>>142764278
Yep

>>142763006
lol and they said Toriyama liked her

Wait how did she die?

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>>142764868
got blacked

>>142764868

Ki blast blowing her into the air and the fall breaking her neck

>>142764901
not funny, stop

>>142764901
>Got blacked
Can we call him Niggerku?

>>142764901
>>142764928
Can't they just use the dragonballs to undo it?

>>142765148
that future doesn't have dragon balls, plus bulma is dead so he can't travel to namek

Loli Mai is still alive it's all good.

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>she is in the op and the mid air promo
>dead in the first episode

damn, this is a god tier trolling , kubo tier

>>142764970
Nigoku?

>>142765177
>Goku is still an asshole and refuses to teach instant transmission to anyone

>King Kai is still an asshole and refuses to call Trunks and say hey go to namek with my instant transmission

>Goku is still an asshole and won't tell King Kai to help, not like he didn't help kill Buu when he was fucking shit up. Or was Buu more dangerous?

>>142763006
Every female character in DBZ either:

A. Exists to be married and never relevant again.
B. Doesn't get married but is still never relevant again.
C. Gets killed off for cheap drama.
D. Is Vados and will probably eventually fall into one of the above categories eventually.

>>142768047
Videl was the worst. Lots of development in the Great Saiyaman Saga (filler?), and now she's just a silent vessel to give birth to Pan

>>142764970
Gogger?

>>142767404
>God
>caring about mortals bussiness
kek

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>>142763006
>saying R.I.P to a DB character
Nice try

>>142768855
>he doesn't know that there's no dragon ball in future Trunks' world
How to spot a newfag

>>142768633
Well the whole gang would be up with King Kai probably so I would assume they might have done something.

Goku just deciding "welp I'm dead, sorry earth you can all die!" doesn't seem like something that would happen. They brought Vegeta and Goku back to fight Buu

>>142768265
At least Pan will be Gokus successor as the protector of earth right?

>>142769178
well in GT Poo In Loo was the successor, so no

>>142769258
>Uub marries Pan
>their son is the new protector of earth

>>142769410
Na, Goku is secretly racist. No way he's letting some smelly Indian marry his precious granddaughter.

>>142768918
wut?

>>142768918
just fucking wait
everyone will be revived

>>142765274
>>142765274
>>142768377
It's Blakarot.

>>142768265
Well, she was a secondary character orbiting around Gohan, and Gohan himself is a minor character nowadays.

>>142768265
>Lots of development in the Great Saiyaman Saga (filler?)

The issue is that her development, especially when you get to the tournament was basically the "development" that made Kuririn and Yamcha want to stop fighting, but coming much quicker.

She learns that she's nothing compared to the actual strong people and that all her training is useless against the monsters that appear. Originally, filler had kept her going as comic relief, but it's not surprising that Toriyama's actual take basically made her like a female version of Buu Saga Yamcha, only married. She wasn't even fighting in the epilogue tournament anyway, so I don't see why this is surprising. People got too used to her filler self.

>>142773445
IT'S OFFICIAL

>>142767404
>>Goku is still an asshole and won't tell King Kai to help,

goku probably didn't get the chance. he died of natural causes and probably didnt get to keep his body, went str8 to heaven

>>142769178
The anime special is not canon to GT so no..

>Bringing back an old character only to immediately kill her off
They killed off Bulma too so what was the point of Mai being there?

>>142776820
Mai was there to ship Mai x Trunks in the main timeline

>>142776908
Should've done that back during the Battle of Gods arc like the movie did.

Wait, what episode is this?

>>142765274
Negroku

>>142776820
She's not dead. Goku talks about how he and Vegeta are going to go and confront this Black guy in the future. Mai's voice actor talked about how she had a surprisingly large role and would be guiding Goku and Vegeta. So she can't be dead.

The only other possibility is that she comes back as a ghost, but I can only think of one other instance of that happening in DB. Usually spirits don't linger, but maybe it's something to do with Black.

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Dick status: SSJ7

>>142778133
That depends. Does she also voice loliMai?

>>142778459
Yes she does, but how could loliMai act as a guide in the future? She wouldn't know shit. Though that would explain why Trunks is looking at her shocked.

Hmm, what if Future Mai possesses Current Mai?

>>142778133
>Mai's voice actor talked about how she had a surprisingly large role and would be guiding Goku and Vegeta
You're pulling that out of your ass. She only said she would appear in every episode (she as in the voice actor, so we don't know which Mai she's talking about). She never said she would guide Goku and Vegeta or anything like that. She also didn't say Mai has a major role; the one who said that was the producer.

>>142778248
she must have downloaded more RAM

>>142778248
that rack makes up for the face

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>>142778248

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So what episode did this start covering original material?

>>142768918
New Namek still exists as far as we know

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Glad that Mai will be appearing in many episodes now. I highly doubt her loli version will be some kind of guide, as since said above she never said anything like that in the first place. I think she'll just simply be a point of concern for MiraiTrunks which may creep her out at first, or attract her since she might get attracted to MiraiTrunks and make shotaTrunks jealous.

And it will be ultra cute.

>>142778133
>She's not dead.
As long next episode don't directly state otherwise, I also don't believe that she is dead. We are watching shounen, remember? Lifeless looking lying body doesn't mean anything.

Is just funny that here are everyone instantly convinced, that she is dead. But in others shounens you can character rip apart, and still nobody believe in its death until it's stated.

>>142779640
>Is just funny that here are everyone instantly convinced
Because you're a retard. Every death connected to Future Trunks' timeline has always been definitive. That was what made his timeline special. The stakes were real there.

>>142779640
To be fair, it did look like she hit the building behind her and the impact broke her neck. They will have to pull some supreme bullshit for having her be alive.

>>142779749
>Every death
But point is that I don't seen her death. I just seen her being blown away by explosion and then lying lifeless. But that don't proves that she really died. She can be simply unconsciousness.

>>142779885
>the impact broke her neck
This shit I hear everywhere, just not in episode itself.

>>142780030
>She can be simply unconsciousness.
If that was all, Trunks would have taken her with him in the time machine.

>>142780030
Because it's the same way they have portrayed a broken neck in Dragon Ball before. Gohan on Namek when he was kicked by Recoome had a broken neck and he's lucky to survive.

>>142780146
I mean, she could have stopped breathing temporarily

But she's probably dead

>>142780146
>If that was all, Trunks would have taken her with him in the time machine.
1) There is so many possibilities for him to not be able to do that.
2) Also how you can be sure that he actually doesn't take her with him. Preview can just don't show it to create tension.

>>142780254
I rather wait for next episode before making any conclusions. You should do same.

>>142780505
>1) There is so many possibilities for him to not be able to do that.
For example?

>2) Also how you can be sure that he actually doesn't take her with him. Preview can just don't show it to create tension.
You're being delusional. The preview's clear he travelled alone.

>>142780573
Believe me, I'd rather her be alive. I hate it when they do shit like this for shock factor and the red herring and comments from producer and her voice actor, doesn't sit right with me.

I'm just bracing for the worst in that the only reason they did this was to make Trunk's life hell and to set him up for Xenoverse.

>>142780684
>the only reason they did this was to make Trunk's life hell and to set him up for Xenoverse.
I think there's a real chance they will go this route. After all the new game is being advertised as a tie-in with Trunks' arc.

>>142768918
oh yeah? what about the super dragon balls?

>>142768047
Bulma?

>>142780287
shes alive, Trunks gonna get his ass beat, she gonna grab him , shove him in the machine and send him back.

>>142780657
>For example?
Two most probable possibilities that I can think off now are:
1) Black will take Mai from Trunks and forces him to run away alone.
2) Black will jumps straight to fight Trunks not giving him simple chance to come close to Mai again and forces him to escape alone.
Personally I believe that second option is more likely to happen.
>You're being delusional. The preview's clear he travelled alone.
And you are too easy to believe. Don't forget gold rule: "Never believe trailers/previews!"

>>142781567
Another possibility >>142781485

>>142781485
>after that we see trunks wake up
>the timemachine is already running
>blacks grabs mai and brutaly murders her
>black: if you come back here the same will happen to you saiyan

>>142781650
>blacks grabs mai and brutaly murders her
Mai will just disintegrate, they're not gonna show something so brutal.

Or wait, maybe they'll have that, and then he'll rape her dead body while showing tits and vagina being dicked, and he'll turn into an underage version of himself smoking a cigarette! And that won't be censored!

Then he'll hold hands with Mai's disembodied hand.

>>142781567
>1) Black will take Mai from Trunks and forces him to run away alone.
He's a killer. If Mai is alive somehow, which is highly unlikely, and Black gets a hold of her, he'll kill her like he did Bulma.

>2) Black will jumps straight to fight Trunks not giving him simple chance to come close to Mai again and forces him to escape alone.
I doubt he would escape alone if she was alive.

>And you are too easy to believe.
Sometimes previews are clear enough, like this time.

>>142781751
>Mai will just disintegrate, they're not gonna show something so brutal.
Except they already did that with Bulma.

>>142781825
So? Dragon Ball often repeats and recycles events and scenarios like any long running anime series. But they're not gonna get so gorey on what's supposed to be for kids.

So Niggerku is definitely the god of destruction for that universe right?

>>142781874
>So?
That it could happen again just fine.

>>142781825
hes replying to someone claiming they will show a gorey death , Bulma death wasnt gorey, she was just turned to dust and disintegrated.

So, does future Trunks lives in a parallel time line?

Nothing that he did in the main time line (saving goku, avoiding most of the character deaths) changed in his time. He kinda just went there to train and meet his father.

>>142781780
>I doubt he would escape alone if she was alive.
The machine is already running, either escape alone or dont escape at all and Bulma death was all for nothing.
RUN.

>>142782112
it wasn't gorey but its darker than what we've seen so far

>>142782198
Piccolo got his torso blown through just a few episodes ago, you guys are mental.

>>142782237
Piccolo isn't a women-

>>142782153
yes... that's been known for a long time. All he accomplished for his timeline was killing the androids and Cell when he got back. Everything else stayed the same as when he left.

>>142767404
Stop being retarded. Remember the rule about the Dragon Ball reviving someone after a year? They get bought back in a fucked up state like Frieza.

>>142782323
>Remember the rule about the Dragon Ball reviving someone after a year? They get bought back in a fucked up state like Frieza.

Wait what?

>>142781780
>He's a killer. If Mai is alive somehow, which is highly unlikely, and Black gets a hold of her, he'll kill her like he did Bulma.
His target is obviously Trunks. I can imagine Black having dialogue like this:
"So this woman is important for you? Well, if you want her back, come for her."
And then use Mai as hostage.

>I doubt he would escape alone if she was alive.
If he will be forced, then he can.
Also he can believe that she is dead, just like you, despite not being. But I very fear of this option, since it would prolong this discussion for next few episodes.

>Sometimes previews are clear enough, like this time.
Not really. Just you are too easy to believe.

>>142773445
Yep, Blakarot it is then.

>>142767404
>King Kai
>instant transmission
Dumbass he doesn't instant transmission

>>142782187
pretty much this.

>>142767404
Instant transmission isnt from King Kai.
King Kai doesnt give a shit about any mortal business until Goku contacts him after death, on request from Enma.

>>142782355
Re watch the RoF movie

>>142782395
Wasn't Goku Dead for most of the time between Cell and Buu?

He looked pretty good after he came back to earth

>>142779060
As an old dog experienced graphic designer, the red ribbon logo is really well done

>>142782364
you realize that everytime you posted that, we all can see its coming from the same person, right?

>>142782437
Are you seriously retarded? Goku wasn't revived with the Dragon Balls during the Majin arc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLeRfM9Vo_I

Naoki Tate = God

>>142782491
Dude i watched it when i was like 10 don't expect me to remember everything almost 10 years later

>Goku saves the universe from Frieza
>dies
>doesn't get any special favors from King Kai
>just lets Androids rape everyone
Toriyama a hack. A HACK!

>>142782187
>The machine is already running
Except it's not, since he has the fucking fuel tank with him.

>>142782482
Yeah, but it's not though.

>>142782549
he wont have it when he wakes up and Mai has turned the machine on.

>"Live Trunks, for me as well, LIVE.

>>142782358
>"So this woman is important for you? Well, if you want her back, come for her."
He would have done that with Bulma to begin with then.

>Not really. Just you are too easy to believe.
No, it's pretty clear. But don't' worry, I'll be here to remind you of that next week, when you're proved wrong.

>>142782602
>Mai surviving a blast from someone stronger than a Super Sayan 2

Nah

>>142782602
The dead can't turn machines on, anon.

>>142782542

Jesus, fanmade Touhou anime have much better animation than this shit.

>>142782651
The dead can even fire kamehamehas and kill Cell, what you on about.

>>142782686
Gohan killed Cell, and he was very much alive.

>>142782622
Trunks hadn't completely disappeared from the planet when Black killed Bulma

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According to http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Timeline the second Gatchan was born in 748. In a chapter in volume 16 of Dr. Slump, Obotchaman travels 10 years into the future, at which point there are 8 Gatchans.
Gatchan forms a cocoon out of which two Gatchans are born, so their growth is exponential. Their population was 1*2^1 in 748, and 1*2^4 around 758 or 759. We can derive from this that their population doubles every five years.

Dragon Ball Super is currently set in the year 780. 780-758=22; 22/5=4.4. The number of Gatchans has doubled four times since the two future chapters of Dr. Slump. Therefore, the current population of Gatchans should be at 8*2^4=128

How many Gatchans would it take to defeat any of the current cast?

>Goku BLACK doesn't have hghlight on his hair
>Looks 100x times better than normal Goku

GOD DAMMIT

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This might be a dumb question but what is this red thing in the background of this picture? I just noticed it.

>>142782834
>Black Goku-The Makaioshin Demon Realm Supreme Kai

What did he mean by this

>the same anon keeps shitposting this hard about Mai being alive
>there are people who still don't get why Mai is young in Future Trunks's time

Why is the DB fanbase so full of idiots?

>>142782622
>He would have done that with Bulma to begin with then.
Not necessary.
>No, it's pretty clear. But don't' worry, I'll be here to remind you of that next week, when you're proved wrong.
I promise that I will do same for you. :D

>>142782887
It's a theory that I thought of at first, but a more in depth version. I thought that in order for Black Goku to be so powerful, he would have to have been fused with another Goku.

This guy theorizes that the Makaioshin forcibly fused Goku with himself using Potara fusion.

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>>142763006
>Make something interesting
>Kill it istantly not even explaining what was the deal with it in the first place

It makes no fucking sense.

>>142783033
He wouldn't look 100% like Goku then

>>142783033
>Black Goku fused with Universe 6 Goku
>U6 Earth was destroyed because there was no Goku to protect it

>>142783132
if you fused goku and goku why wouldn't it look exactly like goku?

>>142783132
>>142783136
Nobody has responded to what I actually posted the picture about... Curious.

>>142783024
>:D
Why it doesn't surprise me.

>>142782973
>Everyone are hard convinced about characters death from simple blow up in Dragon Ball, while in others shounens ripping character apart, is considered "flesh wound".

Beats me.

>>142783053
I guess we could say the explanation for Future Mai was LOST.

So how do you explain Blakarot?
He's clearly Goku being manipulated by a fusion, but Goku died before getting gud in the future so Trunk one way or another should be able to fight back.

The timelines don't make sense. Trunks went back to the past @ yr 764 when he was 18 @ yr 784. He comes back to the future 1 year later @ yr 785, he was 20 years old thanks to htc. He kills Cell @ yr 788. In Super, Trunks said he was going 17 years in the past to meet his old friends. The events of DBS occurs @ yr 780. That would make him around 40 years old. Disregarding Trunks and his saiyan heritage, Mai looks like she's in her teens/20s. Even Bulma didn't age much considering all the stress she had from being hunted down by Black and eating only catfood.

>>142783176
Sorry, I can't help it. Whole situation is too amusing.

>>142783242
>Trunks went back to the past @ yr 764 when he was 18
Wrong, stopped reading there

>>142783210
Because it's fucking dragonball, where the power levels are so stratospherically high there's just no way a normal person could survive a ki blast like that.

>OP ends showing Goten, Trunks and the Pilaf gang together

Oh man, they're gonna become a gang of 5 aren't they?

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>>142763006
It's goten boys

who /hype/ here?

You guys realize even if Mai is dead she can probably be resurrected with Namek Balls, right? The preview said Goku is going to the Future, after all. He could use IT to reach New Namek.

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How could a needle pierce Goku's skin?

So is goku black not even a saiyan then? He called trunks a saiyan as if he wasn't one.

>>142783542
if it's Goten, would Chi-Chi protect him from the fact that's he's a Saiyan so he could study and not pursue the fact he's Saiyan and want to fight, and once she dies in the future he starts to train?

no idea mate.

>>142783506

I'm not sure, wasn't there a time limit? Like you have to bring someone back to life within X years or it's too late

>>142783507
Goku is scared as fuck of needles for a reason.

>>142769123
King Kai said since the beginning (of the Saiyan Saga) that he shouldn't take sides. Kaioshin said pretty explicitly in the Buu Saga that he only helped the humans because Buu was a menace to the universe.

>>142783622

Just actually read your post and realized you only mentioned mai
Her and bulma maybe, but the entire rest may have to stay ded.

>>142783359
I would agree if she was hit directly, not blown away by near hit.

>>142783622
This is true, however there's nothing stopping the Super Dragonballs from fulfilling this request.

>>142783542
It's Freezer fused with Goku, screencap this. Or fucking Cell, whatever that stupid.

>>142783622
I think so, but I'm not talking about the deceased Z fighters. Future Bulma and Mai died recently, they could still be ressurected.

>>142783486

>Lanky arms, meaning he didn't get buff like Goku

I'm really liking this theory, but still fully aware it ain't happening.

>>142783658
that's only in the dub

>>142783622
last I heard it was a year or something. But then again they revived Frezia, and he was dead for years.

>>142783622
Namek balls don't have time limit as well as the stipulation about how many times they have been brought back. It was only about how you could only do one at a time, but that's been changed.

Namek balls are better then Earth's in every way.

>>142783736
I didn't know the dub would add animations too.

>>142783486
This is what I tough, considering Trunk is a year older than Goten, even in his current timeline Chichi could be pregnant with Goten, also there is a slightly foreshadowing in the episode with the whole Chichi not allowing Goten to train with Goku and Piccoro

>>142766635
Goku is a jerk. He doesn't teach ANYTHING to anyone. He also refuses to revive people like kai and shit, even when he has the wishes.

You know you fucked upo when the big bad is a better father than you.

>2 Arcs ahead
>All good now and trunks revived everyone in his world and made the world whole again
>Shows goku the SSJG
>Buu happens
>Buu, devourer of gods

>>142783702
No way they are going to search for the Super Dragon Balls in the Future. You would need to travel between Universes to find them and burst the planets where they are hiding. Even for Goku and Vegeta that would be too much. Besides, they would need the help of a God for this quest in any case because they don't know how to speak the divine language.

>>142783804
After the fight with Vegeta and Goku is all screaming about needles in the dub, in the Japanese version he was screaming in pain from being wrapped up in bandages with his sore battered body.

>>142782542
why is Goku black so fucking tall?
Is he transformed in some kind of werewolf when atacking?Maybe some kind of sinister monkey?

>>142783736
>that's only in the dub
Nigga you just went full retard

>>142783691
>not blown away by near hit.
But again, she's a normal person. That should be more than enough to kill a normal person in this setting, and dragonball generally doesn't screw with that unless things are played for comedy, which is obviously not the case here.

>>142782542

>Those eyes

Evangelion Unit 01?

>>142782651
They can if it's just like a floor switch you can leave corpses on.

>>142782834
Can anyone answer this? Could this be a big clue?

>>142783486
it's possible it could be Goten.
>Goku contracts the heart virus in November 766
>Dies November 766
>Goten is born year 767
>Chi-Chi dies in year 779
>Futue mai dies year 797
Goten would be 30 by this time, I guess he could want to force fusion with trunks, hence the single potara, the other potara is for trunks.

>>142783876
Pilaf's gang survived worse shit than that in DB, but DB was more of a gag manga than super is

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>>142781751
>Then he'll hold hands with Mai's disembodied hand.
Absolute madman.

>>142783736
And the Manga.

>>142783984
That's why I specifically said
>unless things are played for comedy

>>142769123
But what if black is Goku?

>>142783507
same way a rock can injure his head.
Goku and the others arent invulnerable, they need their undivided attention towards something in order to tank it, they use their ki for it.
Distracted Goku is just bullet proof and even then it hurts him.

>>142782834

They are in a city in ruins. Could be any thing like a post or a red iron bar fucked up.

>>142783979
copied and pasted my comment, I like it.

he could be either 29 or 30, depending on when he was actually born.

>>142783746
And unlike every other ressurection in the series, Freeza came back in pieces. Shenlong even says he cannot restore his body. If not for he being able to survive at least some time like that, he would have been broght back just to die again.

That's likely what the 1 year limitation is about, at least for Dende's upgraded Dragon Balls.

>>142783967
maybe some kind of dragon/dinosaur tail

>>142783542
He could be renouncing their sayan heritage, like Gohan focusing only on his human side.

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>>142784043
>Goku is just bullet proof

Not if they are laser bullets, with the properties of both laser and bullet.

>>142781650
>>142781751
And the only reason they won't show a more cruent death than what we had is just because Super animation fucking sucks.

>>142784077
Why?
>>142784055
What?

>>142783242
No he isn't. He's around 32-33.

Trunks is born in Age 766, then uses his time machine in Age 784: so he's 18 at this stage.

He goes back to 764, but doesn't stay there long and goes straight to 767. The Android and Cell sagas take place within that year, and when you factor in the Room of Spirit and Time then only 2 years at most could've passed for Trunks - putting him at around 20 years of age. After all this, he goes back to Age 785 and kills the Androids.

If Super takes place in Age 780, then Future Trunks is currently in Age 797. That means 12 years have passed since he returned to the future to kill the Androids, and if he was 20 then he can only be 32 now.

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>>142784091
I just noticed something:
ChiChi earrings are similar. Could Black be wearing one earring of his mother? Is ChiChi still alive in Future Trunks timeline?

>>142783868
>Goten got bigger than everyone after being a manlet after so long
living the dream

>>142784043
>>142784118
Back in Dragon Ball, he and Krillin would get shot by Lunch's Machine Gun and it wouldn't pierce their skin. This was back when they had maybe 200 power level tops.

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>>142784118
Dumb meme senpai

>>142784118
>Lasers, that are both Lasers, and bullet.
That's the dumbest thing I heard this week

>>142784208

>Chichi fused with Goku
>Created Black Goku. The power of Goku with the evilness of Chichi

Now it all makes sense.

>>142783855
The omni king could offer any wish via super dragonballs as a reward for the tournament. Any wish to the fighters themselves, and not the Gods this time.

>>142784243
it was obviously a joke you fucking autist

>>142784269
Gochi would be the scariest shit.

>>142784230
But he was still in SSB. How can he turn his defence off while in SSB? Doesn't seem to make sense. He would have to turn SSB off first.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=34227&p=1100140#p1099778

WOAH, Goku actually does have point ears...

>>142784154
>Super animation fucking sucks.
>Not because of it's timeslot restrictions.

If they wanted they could still have more graphic violence with bad animation. People keep forgeting this airs in Sunday Morning.

And even if it aired at 7pm like the old DB series did they wouldn't get away with the shit they used to back then.

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>>142784208
Chichi's are silver.

Soulja Boy's are gold.

Only one other character has green and gold earrings.

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ENOUGH, LET HIM BE HAPPY

>>142784349
The anime fixes that and makes him revert back to his normal and relaxed form before getting hit. Why is Goku such a moron to get that relaxed against Freezer? That's another question.

>>142784230
There's no reason he would lower his defense against freeza who blew up namek when he was losing.

>>142784091
>"THEN I REJECT MY SAIYANITY!"

>>142784071
I still think he wants to force trunks to fuse, the single potara reminds me too much of the whole episode where Goku is trying to force vegeta to fuse with him.

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>>142784349

>>142784349
Maybe that's the problem with SSB having such a ridiculously good ki control. You can actually lower your ki defenses to the same extent base level allows

>>142784455
Loli of time will give him a job. That's the most you should expect.

>>142784455
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4

>>142784356
>http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=34227&p=1100140#p1099778
This would explain why he calls trunks a sayian

>>142784487
>Maybe that's the problem with SSB having such a ridiculously good ki control. You can actually lower your ki defenses to the same extent base level allows
That sounds like bullshit.

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>>142784349

>>142784569
He can still feel pain but it wouldn't technically wound him.

>>142784547
Exactly.

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>>142784349
>>142784481
Wrong pic

>>142784462
Goku is not the sharpest tool in the shack.

And to be fair here both movie and Super arc kept pointing out how being too careless is Goku's fatal flaw as a fighter.

>>142784228
and it would hurt them, case proven!

>>142784569
Isn't that filler? Show me the equivalent manga page and then we're talking.

Mai has been my DB waifu since the first series aired on public broadcast in the US. It was sad it took so long for her to drop her guard to have any romance in her life because of muh loyalty to Pilaf and it was cute when she considered even handholding to be too lewd for her.

>>142784607
any pics of him having pointy ears?

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I know it's not related but I find it amazing how much Future Gohan resembles Goku compared to modern Gohan.

>>142784609
Does every page of the american release have a "Read this way" sign? Does Viz or whoever released this really think their readers are so retarded they will forget it every time they turn a page?

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>>142784462
>There's no reason he would lower his defense
God this threads highlight the amount of people who remember shit about the series.

>>142784683
>Goku isn't a faggot
>Future Gohan ends up not being a faggot
brilliant parallel toriyama

>>142784720

That's because a lot of people was poisoned with the horrible english/american dub that made up half of the speeches.

>>142784566
If regular Super Saiyan already allows this >>142784609 when you have enough control over it, I don't see why Blue wouldn't be the same.

>>142784676
How are you taking her future self dying?

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>>142784720
Trunks doing the same

>>142784677
>>142782834 here

>>142784918
It's sad, but I'm sure it won't be in vain. Trunks must protect her loli self so she can become the same girl he fell in love with and allow her to live.

Can't Trunks just go 5 hours back and sacrifice himself so that His slightly past self and Mai survive with their own timetravel juice to go back to the intended destination?

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>>142784946
Idk if that ear is really that different

>>142784462

THe main points of the "Training with Whiss" arc were

>Goku is an idiot that gets over-confident when he's winning and tends to lower his defenses

and

>Vegeta over-trains his body to the point that so much training gives no results and he thinks too much when fighting

>>142785039
Time travel doesn't work like that. He would just create a new timeline and doom his own. Any people still alive would be at the mercy of Black.

>>142785039
>crating another pointless timeline

>>142785039
no, because his time machine only connects with the mainline db universe that we are familiar with. it's not exactly a 'time machine' in the sense that he can actually go back to the past. it's a multi-dimensional time machine as it can only go to the past of 'our' db timeline

>>142785067

What I don't like is Goky being impatient when he was balls deep into meditation and alternative training back in DB and Z

>>142784720
>>142784931
>It's not that they lower their power level.
>It's that they raise it.
>Their base power level is still probably as shit as it was in dragonball.
>They just got really good at releasing it in big bursts.

>>142784711
happens to me all the time when i go from /a/ to /co/ and vice versa

when you read both manga and comic books sometimes your brain decides to stick with one way of reading things until you realiza that you are reading it wrong

>>142785121
Most of his meditation stuff is anime only filler though. He does it a few times but it doesn't seem his prefered method.

>>142784356
This is actually nice and makes sense for most of the part.

>>142785147
Actually their base power has grown significantly, thats why they train in base form all the time.

SS transformations are just multipliers, they have to raise their base power to get more power out of SS transforms.

>>142785169
Happens to me sometimes when seeing random pages like this.
But when actually reading a chapter or volume, not.

the timeline makes no sense
mai shouldnt even be there
the "past" that future trunks travel is no longer his timeline
i mean traveling between different universe would make more sence

unless
>future trunk is actually future trunks from U6
>U6 earth is the one that got destroyed not U7
>he changed U7 timeline not U6
>Blacku is actually U6 Goku (he was good from the start and got a hit in his head making him hab)
>Bills wish for a U6 earth is why we got a a new "future trunks" arc

that would make more sence that the current time traveling and the nonsence timeline

>>142785360
Na, its still the same unvierse.

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>>142785360
No, you're just an idiot.

>>142785232
The think the transformations aren't as strong any more, otherwise the space time continuum would have exploded by now.

>>142763006

Fuck this gay earth.

>>142783876
I rather wait for next episode's confirmation/refutation. Then one of us can say "I told you so" to other.

>>142785467
As I recall
SS1 = 50 times base power
SS2 = 100 times base power
SS3 = 400 times base power.

>>142785570
>mom dies
>waifu dies
>cat dies
>gets bullied so hard HE almost dies
Not even Yamcha has it that bad.

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>>142785360
>Bills

>>142769178
No. Goku is only interested in currynigga.

>>142785196
True, but the whole point of Kami's training was to learn how to calm his mind. Goku has a certain air of dignity during the Demon Jr. Saga, but that's all been forgotten now

dragon ball super

more like dragon ball suffer

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>>142785757
Not really

>>142764836
George RR Martin also said he liked Osha in the TV show.

>>142785850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIP8sjb2RhU
5:12-5:37

>>142785011
>implying Loli Mai won't be blacked by the end of this arc

Future Trunks must not be allowed any sort of happiness.

>>142785360
See >>142785409

>>142785688
Somehow, they no longer multiply power that way.

Something about how god ki affects the body or whatever so super saiyan 2+ is actually weaker than super saiyan 1.

>>142785697
>Yamcha had no mom
>Yamcha's waifu left him
>Cat not confirmed dead
>Yamcha is screwed over in every timeline.

Keep whining Trunks, you spoiled brat.

>>142786007
>watches loli mai get blacked
>watches gohan get blacked
>watches father get blacked
>watches mother get DOUBLE blacked
no happiness
no peace
only suffer

YOU WANTED TRUNKS TO COME BACK

YOU GOT TRUNKS TO COME BACK

>>142785731
If they are going to name him Bills, they might as well have the decency to rename whis to dollar, champa to cash and vados to penny.

>>142786097
Waifu still alive
Cat still alive
Isn't bullied so hard anymore
Yamcha stop showing off your comfortable life

>>142785409
>>142786042
Mind you, Trunks "going back in time" now shouldn't magically transport him to the parallel timeline that way. That's an screw up or the time machine is more like a trans-dimentional time machine, specifically connected to the Super's timeline somehow.

Honestly, it feels more like a plot hole.

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>MAI IS ALIVE XD
>GOKU BLACK IS GOTEN LET ME EXPLAIN XD

Don't you have a one piece thread to shitpost with your meme theories or something? We have enough with demigrafags

>>142786157
>Waifu betrayed him for the guy who killed him.
>Trunks cat isn't confirmed dead either.
>Bullied constantly by his so called friends who mock his miserable life.

Trunks can keep crying about his cushy life.

>>142786178
According to Xenoverse there is a flaw in the time machine that creates alternate parallel timelines, which is what Trunks travels too.

After meeting the Kai of time, she fixes this flaw so the machine can be used as a normal time machine.

>>142786178
Point taken. Yeah, trying to make any sense of Dragon Ball is useless especially where Future Trunks is involved. I'm just in it for the wild ride at this point.

>>142786178
12 universes (used to be 18), with multiple timelines in each.

Or multiple timelines with 12 universes (used to be 18) each.

Either way, Pilaf made the wish to become young again before Piccolo died/fused with Kami, hence him not knowing that the Dragon can grant multiple wishes.

>>142786259
>After meeting the Kai of time, she fixes this flaw so the machine can be used as a normal time machine.
But if that's true, he would not be able to travel betweens timelines anymore. He would be stuck in the timeline in which his machine was "fixed".

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Does this shotgun string technique work in real life?

>>142786303
>Either way, Pilaf made the wish to become young again before Piccolo died/fused with Kami, hence him not knowing that the Dragon can grant multiple wishes.
I know that. I was just commenting on the nonsensical time travel mechanics in this series.

>>142786378
The Supreme Kai of time 's changes to the time machine do not stop if from going back to alternate timeilines it already created, it only prevented it from creating new alternate parallel timelines from going into the past.

>>142786259
They'll probably retcon it into the time machine getting tied to other universes. So, he's technically U3 Trunks or whatever.

>>142786399
What's that?

>>142784455
why doesnt present trunks look like this

>>142786399
Also, who's the person on the left of the gold "Strong 9"?

>>142786525
Pirate Goku

>>142786431
Well, you said that after it was fixed, it could be used as a normal time machine. But if what you said now it's true, then it's not a normal time machine at all.

A normal time machine would only allow him to travel through time inside his own timeline. Travelling between parallel timelines is something else entirely.

>>142786525
wan piss

>>142764901
Mai just went black and never came back.

>>142786259
shit's not even canon though

>>142784683
Too bad he's literally weaker than Krillin

>>142786525
Luffy
Strong 9 is the name of the programming block

>>142786399
Firing a pistol grip shotgun like that isn't the best idea. The recoil would probably fling it out of her hand.

>>142764901

So this is hy Trunks adopts the trenchcoat in the time patrol? Deepest lore.

>>142763006
It's dragon ball. People come back from death all the time. Add time travel in and time constrants are thrown out the window as well.

>>142786614
I see, thanks

>>142786399
And what was this again?

>>142784910
Translate please.

>>142786547
It CAN be used as a normal time machine, it can also be used as the kind of "time machine" it was before.

>>142786648
Sure, but it isn't like the future has Dragon Balls at the moment. What they could do, is bring the Dragon Balls from their timeline over. Or Goku could go to New Namek, since he does know where it is and talk to Dende about reviving some people.

OR, they could use the Super Dragon Balls, since it's possible that those could effect other timelines anyway.

>>142786399
>>142786471
>>142786625
>>142786657

I think he is asking whether using a string / rope / wire to pump a shotgun like in pic related actually a legit technique?

>>142786981
I see.

>>142786399
No, it's a sling you moron. Not a method to pump the shotgun. It's just to hold it on her shoulder.

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Have a wallpaper version.

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>>142787049

>>142786906
>Or Goku could go to New Namek, since he does know where it is and talk to Dende about reviving some people.
He could actually take Dende back to Earth to be the kami in Future Trunks timeline.

>>142787173
He could do that too. It just wouldn't revive any of the Z-fighters, but I guess Trunks is ok with that.

>>142787092
I wonder if it is Goten as the villain.
Fuck is Super finally getting good?

Did Bulma get BLACKED too?

>>142787388
>Turned to ash.
Yes, in a way.

are those fucking new episode titles out yet?

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>>142785850
>I've over a thousand years old

I don't expect a lot out of dragon ball fans, but really?

>>142787666
Id say a spic translated it.

fucking turanksu get your shit together. i bet he stopped training after cell and forgot how to be a super saiyan like gohan

>>142787720
Maybe he ate nuffin for weeks.
How much energy does he need to go ssj?

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>>142763632

At least he's not yamcha

>>142787807
why didnt they keep her eyes blue

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so pure

>>142787807
Trunks doesn't even have the right to complain when his life is compared to Yamcha's.

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>>142764901
>>142764970

Moar like Gokoon

>>142786178
It feels like a plot hole since Cell Saga, as it's revealed that the main DB timeline split off from Trunks past earlier than his first travel. Cell arrived years before.
The Time Machine never took him to the past of his own world.

Here's how I think things are.

Goku somehow became a God of Destruction.
The green guy is his Whiz. He doesn't really seem evil though.

>>142787092

Who the fuck is the green nigger? Is he from gt?

>>142784762

literally pottery

>>142784569

Goku weaknesses: lasers, Hit's time-freezing sucker punch and rocks to the face.

>>142788157
It's almost like he can't defend against things he couldn't see coming.

>>142782549
The Bulmafluids only power up the time travel, the machine itself (flying and electronics) is powered with anoother energy source.

Black is Son Goten

He is clearly possessed by something (calling Trunks a saiyan)

The single Potara earring means he wants to force Trunks into perma-fusion... and since he already is mind-controlling Goten, this could also mean he will take control about the fusion.

>>142786751
"moans in chinese"

>>142788317
>he single Potara earring means he wants to force Trunks into perma-fusion...

Is that an allegory of male rape in prisons?

Like poetry

>>142768918
>what is namek

>>142788317
gaaaaaaaaaaay
sounds like some fujo fanfic

>>142782542
>trunks learned Getsuga Tensho
fucking ah

>>142779885
>implying she didn't train with Trunks to at least be on par with Krillin

>>142782542
I think i could do this attack in legacy of goku 2when playing as trunks

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>>142782765

8 gatchans are worth 1 yamcha, goku is worth 7 quatrillion yamchas

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>>142783486
Fuck now I want this >>142783979
It would be kinda interesting to see

But I know it isn't happening

>>142788619
>>142788619
>legacy of goku

yeah, amazing gba game too

>>142788298
>Bulmafluids

lewd.

>>142786399

Haven't watched DBZ 2 but why did they decide to make such an obscure side character into a protagonist?

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Goku Black is Turles except he was retconned to be half Tsufuru-jin, therefore his hate for saiyans
Solved it for you, go to bed.

Instead of rehashing all these retarded plots they would, at least, make Brolly canon.
Hell, if you're going to pander, at least pander well.

Well, at least this Black Goku thing is miles better than SSB level Cell.

>>142788941
Broly a shit only edgelords like him

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>>142787863
Source

The powercreep is real. Future Trunks cant do shit even though he was nearly on the level of Perfect Cell when he went back to the future. This is straight up bullshit, they treat him the same way they treated Gohan.

>>142789754

Literally the official manga nigga.

>>142765268
>she's not actually dead, you dip

>>142789829
So what, black is just a lot stronger than Cell then. If he wasn't then the arc would be over very soon.

>>142789830
Literally not the official manga since it's from a dojuin.

>>142789754
http://exhentai.org/g/581538/ace1f4f5ca/

>>142789830
I think that one comes from a doujin the kiss scene is a parody of a scene that happened in the mabga

>>142783486
It cant be Goten because in Future Trunks timeline Goku died before having Goten with Chi-Chi.

>>142782675
kek

How old would Mai be in future trunk's world anyway?

>>142790019
Even taking into account the 9 months?

>Cats forget their owner in 3 days
This is false and I'm glad she died.
Fucking slut.

>>142789966
>http://exhentai.org/g/581538/ace1f4f5ca/
I can't use this shit

>>142783486
Why is he evil though?

>>142790072
Slightly older then Bulma

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>>142790116
>being this new

>>142768265
This bothers me more than most it went from badass fighter tomboy who takes no shit to silent Japanese housewive who lives to her husband and child.

>>142789829
I thought it was fucking retarded that he was jogging everywhere. This is the same guy from the Cell saga, he even confirmed that he is. He should be powered up and flying across the planet in moments.

>>142790182
It just runs in the family

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>>142789830
official manga would be this

>>142787092
>Vegeta irrelevant again

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>>142790236

>>142790107
Yeah, Goku's heart disease kicked in when Goku was a little kid just when the first cyborgs appeared, so thats about when he died in the alternate timeline, and not much after that the rest off the gang died because they werent prepared for the cyborgs.

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>>142790242
>cucked by his own son and side character

>>142790214
Consider the following.
Sayian semen turns women into semen craving sluts, it is like kyptonite to their characters because all they can think about getting more sayian semen like some random hentai slut.

Chi Chi, Bulma and Videl all lost their badass aspect and become quiet waifus because their earth bodies cannot handle the sayian semen like sayian women who wish to get inseminated but also fight.
18 is the only non sayian waifu and she doesn't take no shit.

>>142790207
Nigga should just go SSJ 2, hell he is still using his fucking sword which was useful only one time against frieza after that it was never used.

>>142788941
Brolyfags are the worst thing that has ever come out of DB.

>>142790290
What? The heart disease was at the same time in both timelines, the Earth would have been destroyed way earlier otherwose.