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Is she kill or not?
Post your arguments
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>>142752109
Everyone will be blacked.
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Waifu Mai is still alive because she's too kawaii to be dead :3
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She dead
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>>142752109
It looks like she had an orgasm or something.
All you need is the blush
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NOT KILL
She is clearly just unconscious.
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>>142752109
Dead. Can't you see that neck?
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>>142752109
She's dead get fucked waifufags
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>>142752109
no. and even if she is they are bringing her back eventually. i don't understand why people would think otherwise.
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>>142752109
Trunks is doomed to job since this episode and only Goku will be able to do shit, as always.
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>>142752166
Is the opening hinting at multiple Blacks?
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>>142752109
she dead
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Poor Trunks, but this is what has to happen with time travel plots.
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>>142752109
She died while Future Trunks was holding her in his arms.
Man, that was sad. Future Trunks's life simply sucks.
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>>142752109
>Neck goes limp when he lifts her up.

She ded. Even though her getting a direct Ki blast to the vagina and coming out that pristine is remarkable.
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>>142752280
Well you don't exactly go back in time if your life is peachy.
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Either way, braindead for trying to take on a civilization-destroying evil menace while armed with nothing but a shotgun.
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>>142752109
Possessed by Demigra
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>>142752109
All these people bitching about the waifufags in past thelreads are are just as bad if not worse than the waifufags themselves.
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There is literally NO reason why they would even bother making a model for damaged clothes Mai if she was just going to be killed off in ep 1
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>>142752316
Man, I actually like this look
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>>142752367
Keep telling yourself that, anon. She's sure to come back for you.
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>>142752367
Yeah, and if Future Mai is dead, why would they put her on the new intro?
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>>142752363
Anon we went over this.

>>142752244
>>142752302

Demigra was Chi Chi the whole time.
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>>142752198
>>>/v/

>>142752364
By their retarded definition, 95% of /a/ are waifufags. They're obviously faggots from /v/
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>>142752316
His look gets much better as the show goes on.

This outfit is awesome.
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>>142752312
I was more surprised at the fact she actually tried to use her shotgun on him. She was really willing to die to help Trunks. At least she was prepared for her death.
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>>142752411
That look shouldn't even be a thing.
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>>142752426
Trunks got in his way for Goku, now he'll go cuck him
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>>142752448
I liked her little apartment hideout.
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>>142752472
I want Vegeta to start a Queen cover band
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>>142752413
Don't reply to him. Guy is delusional.
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>>142752448
And then he didn't use the opportunity to get away
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>>142752316
>The Pedophile of all Saiyans
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think of the cat

it better make it to next episode or riot
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>>142752367
now this is getting pathetic
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>>142752316
This Vegeta looks like he won't stop making dad jokes.

>>142752432
This Vegeta looks like he does gay porn.
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Now that Future Bulma and Mai is dead

Will Future Trunks join the time patrol?
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>>142752367
Arent her clothes already damaged looking before she got rekt?
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>>142752497
"I AM the champion, insect..."
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Same Kitty that Dr. Briefs has or a different one
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>>142752432
that's my favorite Vegeta outfit to be honest
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>>142752558
Xenoverse is not canon though.
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>>142752572
>tumblr
Pls go
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>S-she was in the official artwork of the arc and the opening
>She's not dead
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>>142752558
why is she so cute?
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>>142752367
>they would even bother making a model for damaged clothes Mai
What model? Even a kid can edit the original outfit to look like that in no more than 5 minutes.
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>>142752599
DBO basically was the future canon though, we just don't know now.
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>>142752614
Because she's short and purple.
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>>142752558
CUTE
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>>142752558
She looks like something out of NNT
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>>142752195
That's her hair covering some of it
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>>142752564
xD upvote
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>>142752564
>BAAAABIDI HAS A DEVIL PUT ASIDE FOR MEEEE
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>>142752599
>>142752558
Most likely. I don't see what else could he do now that he's alone.
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>>142752659
NNT?
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>>142752556
>This Vegeta looks like he does gay porn.
About that...
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Why did they have to kill best mom? Why do they have to make Future Trunk's life as horrible as possible?
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>>142752558
Fucking moeblob trash.
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>>142752731
If his life was good why would he leave?
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>>142752731
so there is a contrast when they wish everything back with the super dragon balls.
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>>142752731
>feels
Go back to whatever shithole you came from
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>>142752736
don't shit on Trunks' waifu
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>>142752714
think he means nanatsu no taizai
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>>142752714
Nanatsu no taizai a manga by a RPG and Dragon Ball fanboy it's pretty gud.
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>>142752687
>ANOTHER THAT BITES THE DUST
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>>142752731
this. It just makes me hate the faggot current trunks even more.
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>>142752572
dr briefs cat is black, not dark brown
But Trunks hair is now blue and not purple
so it's anyone's guess.
Also, Cats live awhile if they have regular vet visits and good diets.
Mine were 22 when they died.
My friend's was 24.
But even by that standard, if that's the Doc's cat, it's like 35
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>>142752572
Was already confirmed it was another cat that Mai adopted
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>>142752789
It was rape. She's moeblob trash AND a rapist.
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>>142752810
>By RPG
>a Dragon ball fanboy
One piece?
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>>142752778
>They're going to fix his timeline with the Super Dragonballs
Or
>they're going to summon Beerus in Trunks' timeline and they use the Super balls in that timeline
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There's sub?
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>>142752830
Are you ready for current trunks being arrogant as fuck towards Future Trunks?

I sure am.
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SO TO MAKE ALL THINGS CLEAR:
>Future Bulma is dead! She was blacked and faded away on screen.
>Future Mai is hit by Black's shot and now looks lifeless. Whether she is dead or just unconscious isn't clear. You can guess both things, but its cliffhanger so until next episode we won't know anything for sure.
This is real content of episode.
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let me guess raw links wont be posted until Tuesday.
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>>142752633
it was never future canon
they had Toriyama design a future that would work for the game mechanics.
that's not the same thing.
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>>142752841
>Was already confirmed it was another cat that Mai adopted
citation needed
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>>142752858
>Beerus
God, please no. Can't we let one timeline stay pure from his faggotry?
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>>142752896
Why did you not watch it live?
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>>142752895
Mai's dead, get over it.
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>>142752901
nigga Toriyama spent 5 years working on that shit, he wrote the backstory himself, he was invested in it, literally nobody argued against it, because in the end it came from him.
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>>142752896
>[SOFCJ-Raws] Dragon Ball Super - 047 (THK 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4
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When can we expect the titles and summaries of the next few episodes?
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>>142752858
it may be irrelevant if the super balls grant ANY wish. both are plausible anyway.
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>>142752938
You know it's going to happen.
Hell I wouldn't be surprised if it was his fault Black Goku is a thing.
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>>142752885
>current trunks powers up into super saiyan to show off
>starts talking about how he and Goten fuse to form Gotenks, and that they fought Majin Buu, all that
>Future Trunks goes USSJ and scares current trunks shitless.
>Vegeta goes "Why did I never think of that"
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Everyone who thought Zeno being able to wipe out the multiverse was hyperbole can eat shit now.

And how can people rag on the rest of Super but eat this piece of shit arc up? It's Cell Saga all over again with worst DB character along with ChiChi.
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>>142752965
You obviously wants her dead, right?
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>>142752938
Go fuck yourself with a hammer
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kid trunks bout to go through an identity crisis next ep

finally this little spoiled shit gets to emotionally suffer
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>>142753019
And for comedic effect
>gets his ass beat by SSJ3 Gotenks
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>>142752972
I fuckin played the game
I know he worked on it
but that's what games are
they're their own separate canon
it's not the same at ALL as being canon to the manga or the anime.
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>>142752823

>Seriously, you have no idea how old that got.
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>>142753061
Actually not, but I'm not delusional.
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>>142752432
>sorry_for_what.png
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>>142752885
Unless Future Trunks got magically much stronger than he was in the Cell saga while having no one to train with him, then Present Trunks should be much stronger than Future Trunks
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>>142752633
>>142752972
I wish DBO faggots who still cling to that garbage would just fuck off somewhere and never come back
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KISAMA! ARE YOU GOKU OR BLACK
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>>142753095
>but that's what games are
Name literally one game where he wrote the plot on it to BE the future of dragonball, let alone did the designs himself, DBO was supposed to be something big.
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That green kai was giving his life to Goku in the opening, like the old kai did.
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>>142753082
And he is going to get zero development from it.
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>>142752109
She's dead. The preview shows kid Mai with kid Trunks thrice though, so Super likely will reintroduce the crush they cut from the movie adaptations.
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>>142753121
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>>142753124
Present Trunks is barely as strong as SSJ cell saga Gohan, if that.
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>>142753127
the game itself wasn't really all that great, but that doesn't change the fact that it came from the creator.
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>>142753008
Yeah, I've heard people theorize Black Goku's from Universe 6, and it does make some sense. And while it'd make a good easy out, I'm sincerely hoping it's not the case.

>>142753072
Fuck you. Beerus a shit. There hasn't been a decent new character introduced in the new series yet.
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>>142753169
Hopefully the do something with Trunks. He's literally the same character he was as at the start of the Buu saga.
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>>142753164
The VA already said that kid Trunks soon would be "maturing" and teased about how he said too much. I think we're about to get character development and soon might even get an actual timeskip.
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>>142753169

Why is he looking shocked though?

Also here's trunks in his time machine and I can't find Maifu ;_;
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I don't know whether it's sad or hilarious that Goku and co don't seem to recognize the Pilaf Gang
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>>142753208
>who is Vados
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So basically they bring back Future Trunks just to kill everything he love?
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>>142753251
Yes.
I mean for fucks sake can he finally have a happy ending?
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>>142753231
Maybe Mai is simply invisible because of some technology.
That must be it. Right? RIGHT?
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Didn't Future Mai's voice actor confirm that she would be in every episode for this arc? If that's the case, she's definitely not dead.

That, and why would they introduce her in Future Trunks' timeline just to immediately kill her off?
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>See Future TrunksXFuture Mai pics
mmm, maybe is time to see Dragon Ball Super
>Mai dead
maybe not...
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Who is this? A new Kai?
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>>142753008
>future Trunks beerus gets tired of waiting for this super saiyan God thing
>Goes into the afterlife
>Future Goku, who's been in the afterlife for 25 years now, has learned about it from other deceased saiyans, and achieved it.
>beats Beerus
>becomes next God of destruction
>blowing up planet after planet makes him turn more violent and evil
>considers himself "above" saiyans, which is why he refers to Trunks that way

That could be interesting, but I doubt it'll happen.
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>>142753019
>Why did I never think of that

Didn't Trunks mentioned that his father didn't use this form because of the weakness?
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>>142753251
Yes. They wanted to finish the work.
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>>142753242
... Touche. Too bad she's tied to a shit character.
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>>142753251

Suffering is his call.
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>>142753269
>I mean for fucks sake can he finally have a happy ending?
His future is literally the bad end where Poore invaded.
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>>142753231
shes underneath him :DD
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>>142752109
Does it matter?
They could just easily revive her
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>>142753278
They can do flashbacks. Hope not though, I want to see future Mai with the people from the present.
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>>142753281
universe 6 kais were green so maybe he is related to them?
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>>142753280
hmm............... possibly...

no... don't think she could be... ....
...

....
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>>142753287
I think he means scaring Trunks in line with it.
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>>142753115
Then don't jump straight into conclusions. We are watching shounen series. Death is not so simple.
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>>142753333
How?
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>>142753282
Goku black is just a self-hating saiyan?
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>>142753208
>Yeah, I've heard people theorize Black Goku's from Universe 6
This episode revealed that there were originall 18 universes, but Zen'o once destroyed 6 of them. I guess Goku Black and the Kaioshin are survivors who want revenge. There's no other reason to introduce that set up right now.


>>142753278
>Didn't Future Mai's voice actor confirm that she would be in every episode for this arc? If that's the case, she's definitely not dead.

The same VA voices future and kid Mai. So, she might have actually been talking about Kid Mai, who seems to have a big role next episode at least.
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>>142753355
>Vegeta

>wanting to scare his own child

what r u 13?
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>>142753251
Pretty much
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>>142753372
The magic balls
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>>142753356
Trunks goes back alone. She's dead.
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>>142753372
dragon balls. are you challenged?
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>>142753387
>There's no other reason to introduce that set up right now.
Don't be so sure. We've seen a lot of useless setup in Super.
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>>142753353
>... ...... ................ ..... ........ .................
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>>142753231
She's under the console giving him a blowjob. He passed out
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>>142753401
Trunks is a little shit, he's needs to be put in line sometimes.
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>>142753208

Hit would have wrecked Black Goku anyhow. Can't buy that theory.
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>>142753146
>something big
it was supposed to be a MMO and they thought it would sell
but that required them to have a plot that would allow for things like
Tons of Majins
Tons of Saiyans
Tons of Nameks

and lo and behold, Toriyama wrote a future that allowed for all of those things!
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>>142753203
That's still much stronger than Future Trunks also Goten and Trunks got much stronger in the Time Chamber due to plot that saying that they are a bit weaker than Super Perfect Cell with just Super Saiyan is lowballing it.
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>>142753387
>I guess Goku Black and the Kaioshin are survivors who want revenge.
Universes don't work like that in Dragonball. Goku only exists in universe 7 and 6.
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>>142753251
Yes, because they like fucking his shit up.
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>>142753479
I should have added a "possibly" in there.
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>>142753470
You mean something Toriyama didn't have to do and some random hack writer could have done in his place? Are you trying to say Toriyama writes all the non copy pasted plot in vidya?
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>>142753428
>>142753406
Piccolo is dead in that world, and no one can find the Namekians.
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>>142753479
>Universes don't work like that in Dragonball. Goku only exists in universe 7 and 6.

12 universes = 2 twins
18 universes = 3 twins

The later wasn't said this episode, but it'd keep the pattern they have right now.
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WAIFUFAGS BTFO!
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>>142753443
>trunks now have a waifu

>damn it, look here you little shit

He can do what the fuck,ever he wants
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>>142753425
>Trunks goes back alone.
That proves nothing. There is too much other reasons why he could leave her behind.
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Will Goten character ever be relevant?
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>>142753387
kid Mai in every episode to give future Trunks some nice flashbacks of his times with future mai

that will torment him quite a bit probably
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>>142753553
he left her there because she is dead, why would you bring a dead body with you to past anyway?
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>>142753535
well good think we have the super dragon balls. you know the new balls that are going to get eventually used again.
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>>142753553
Can you even fit two people in that time machine?
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When will Super go past the ending of Z?
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>>142753553
>That proves nothing
Because you're delusional. Trunks would not leave Mai there is she was alive.
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>>142753535
Trunks can easily use the balls from universe 6
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>>142753563
Nope, he's just fusion fodder. Even the animators are drawing him shorter and shorter. Eventually he will just be gone.
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>>142753574
Please no
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>>142753601
never
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>>142753601
never
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>>142753538
>3 twins
>3
>twins

Also there could have been 6 universes removed from either end.
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>>142753601
whats the problem with retconning that shit anyway
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>>142753584
They have dragon balls there?
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>>142753563
He's going to steal Mai from Trunks
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>>142752432
vegeta always dressed as a raging homo.
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>>142753574
>Trunks wakes up
>eyes blurry and shit but bright
>see a silhouette of a grill looking over him

>Mai?
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>>142753530
Toriyama worked with the Dragonball Online production. His involvement was a big deal at the time.

Although it's not clear what actually came from him, so people exaggerate his role there. For example, the new Namek variations were his creation, alongside the concept of the Time Patrol, but there's no proof the villains had anything to do with him.
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>Future Mai is kill on the same eisode she appears

What the fuck, it just doesn't make sense that she gets offed so soon while been present in the opening (and in a shot alongside BLACK at that), plus the commercial card (if it was like that then Future Bulma should have been there too)

The above would point out that she's still gonna do something, but I just don't see a logical way for her to remain alive after Trunks travels back.
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>>142753563
Well, considering the fact that he is Black Goku, I would say yes.
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>>142753601
m-muh dick
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>>142753651
Kami is kill at Android saga along with Piccolo's demise when Trunks was a baby.
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>>142753601
Trunks' VA teased that soon Kid Trunks will mature, even saying that he said too much afterwards, so I don't think it'll just character development.
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>>142753660
>Trunks wakes up
>eyes blurry
>see a silhouette
>it's goku
>he freaks the fuck out
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>>142753707
>Its Black Time!
>No Goku! NO!
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>>142753701
Yes, but the past he is going back to has working dragon balls. Now, if they'd work on a person who died in a different timeline is another matter. I don't think they ever tried that.
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>>142753670
Her role is to remind Future Trunks that he can't save anything and have to rely to GOku and Vegeta to sold his problem

Fucking half breeds man
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>>142753670
We'll likely get flashbacks explaining what the hell happened there. Seeing kid Mai might also trigger some flashbacks too.

Besides, it's possible we might get a completely new opening soon alongside the new ending, so it won't last too long.
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>>142753347
nah, universe 6 kais have pineapple top hair
universe 7 has mohawks.
Universe 7 kais have different skin colors
3 are peach, 2 are purple, and 1 is pink.
The colors of the skin/hair also seem to be particular based on which kai they are.
the former east kai has the same colorscheme as the current, for instance.
So odds are this is a kai, just of something different than the directions
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>>142752558
why are dbz girls so ugly? the art style really was made for buffed up guys, girls just look bad, with these stupid eyes and huge forehead.
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>>142753574
>future Trunks will pat loli Mai head

Toei please do it
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>>142753767
If the Dragonballs worked across time don't you think he would have wished everyone back in his last venture?
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>>142753767
The question is, why?
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>>142753584
I really love how much you are sure with her death. Such irony, that people are sure about death from simple blow up in Dragon Ball, but needs solid proof about death when somebody is ripped apart in other shounens.
Give me proof about her death. Lifeless looking body is really not counting.
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why did he write 'hope' on the timemachine?
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>>142753660
>>142753707
>>142753786
Is Future Trunks the only character in DB in having a real PTSD?
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>>142753770
>being this pissed faggot because Trunks saved Goku with grape medicine

He can just go ask what the fuck he wants.
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>>142753661
Pretty sure he wrote the entire backstory or at least heavily supervised it, which does include the Villains, whats questionable is the other stuff in the game beyond design and story though.

But in the end, Time Patrol is still his concept, it wouldn't be too out there to bring it in.
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>>142753815
Did they even think about trying that? I doubt Shenron could/would since he's limited even within his own timeline, but still
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>>142753787
considering the fact that if black is multi-universal threat then the kai could be literally anyone.
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>>142753823
The proof is that he left her there. If she was alive, he would have taken her along with him.
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>>142753840
Bulma wrote it the first time he went back because he was their last hope to save them from the Androids and they love cheesey shit like that in his timeline.
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>>142753823
I bet you would say Bulma isn't dead.

Gohan isn't even dead too, lifeles looking body isn't even counting too.
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This episode had the best Gohan scene in Super yet!
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At this point. future Trunks has pretty much lost everything. even if he defeats black. it's not gonna matter unless he gets the dragonballs from namek or something

>>142753231
if she is in there. It will be on the ground anon.
probably lifeless or close to that
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What happens next though?

Goku and Vegeta get into the time machine and go into the future? What's Trunks purpose for returning?
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>>142753840
Because he need it
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>>142753840
Bulma wrote it on there the first time he went back
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Bulma got BLACKED
Mai got BLACKED

who's next to be BLACKED?
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Spic subs out yet?
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does future trunks even have a reason not to kill himself now?
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>>142753538
>originally there were two perfectly mirror universes, with a third "middle ground"
>the 6 "perfectly mirrored" ones that evil prevailed in all banded together to try and rule the others
>ZenO destroyed them
>Black is the perfect opposite of Goku
>instead of a happy go lucky saiyan, he's a violent, evil human
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>>142753962
Vegeta.
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>>142753962
Yamcha, of course.
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>>142753880
>If she was alive, he would have taken her along with him.

The time machine can only fit 1 person, though.
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>>142753940
Just like Champas, Trunks "Major role" is to jumpstart the plot. Expect Future Trunks to fade into complete irrelevancy as the arc progresses.
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Why did Goku and Vegeta went back on wearing their DBZ attires?
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white hair villain?
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>>142753880
There is many others possible explanations why he did that.
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>>142753964
Todavia no paisano, y eso que son los primeros en subtitular esto.
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>>142754007
Because it is cooler.
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>>142753962
It's almost certain that Vegeta jobs to him.
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>>142753601
Why is she crying anon?
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>>142754007
Adult Goku looks shitty with just the red gi
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>>142754015
OH SHIT
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>>142753601
maybe if they hit the 100 mark we'll see a time skip
because then we can have kid pan, uub and Bra antics, with Trunks, Goten, and Mai running around
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>>142754015
And just like in Buu, Kaioshin ruins fucking everything.
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>>142754015
It's over.

Super Saiyan White isn't happening, pack it up and just leave.
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>>142754004
They can just make him do the ssjg ritual and train him in the timechamber.
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>>142753999
>The time machine can only fit 1 person, though.
They were planing to travel in it together anon. They said so.
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>>142753980
That doesn't even make sense.
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>>142754015
aw fuck
you're right
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>evil being possess main character
>majority of the cast jobs to him
>transforms and has white hair

why is Toriyama literally copying the Baby saga?
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>>142754072
They could, but the won't.
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>>142753962
Mai was not Blacked. She was just blown away by Black's shot.
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>>142753977
>>142753925

Allegedly he should still feel some responsibiity for whatever remains of mankind in his timeline.

>Sees that Goku is alive again
>Brings him to his timeline to beat BLACK
>While he's there he teleports to new Namek and revives evereyone in Earth
>Gives everyone a warning about Majin Buu and returns to the Super timeline
>Trunks finds happiness

THE HEALING IS COMING GUYS
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>>142754090
it's dragon ball
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>>142754109
>transforms and has white hair

actually... >>142754015

GT isn't happening too.
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>>142754109
How would he possess goku if he's long dead in the future?
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>>142754050
>he still thinks Bra exists
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>>142754109
>why is Toriyama literally copying the Baby saga?
Have you ever watched the baby saga?
Have you even watched this episode?
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>Mai voice actor says she will be in every episode of the arc
>People think she is actually dead
Idoits
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>>142754023
>There is many others possible explanations why he did that.
Like what? You think he's stupid enough not to notice if she has a pulse or something? C'mon.
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The Kai grow from fruit on the Kai Planet, right? Shouldn't some replacements have sprouted by now since the others have been dead for thousands of years?
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>>142754111
why the fugg not
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>>142754109
Are you retarded?
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>>142754135
>reviving everyone from 40 years ago

for what purpose?
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>>142753977
seriously. unless the z fighters give him some hope for revival of his world. He might as well.
There's just nothing for him anymore.
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Lettuce→Turles theory by Yaraon.

http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/86125
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What are the chances GreenNotSupremeKai turns out to be a being above Zeno?
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>>142754135
>Gives everyone a warning about Majin Buu and returns to the Super timeline
Why not just kill the sleeping Buu and prevent that whole mess?
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>>142752166
Jesus, this is fanfiction level stupid.
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>>142754140
And it doesn't make sense by Dragon Ball standards.
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>>142754158
>not maining loli Mai

you daft or something?
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>>142754158
>he forgot kid Mai is voiced by the same VA
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>>142754204

Oh right, the death for more than a year thing...

Well he can still revive his mom and his waifu at least.
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>>142754015
What if he is all Lawful and attacks Trunks because Time Travel is against the natural order, probably he is also against the present timeline because it shouldn't exist
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>>142754224
Black Goku may be Turles.
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>>142754260
That doesn't exist anymore.

See: Frieza
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>>142754230
They should have never let Toriyama write for Dragonball again. We didn't know how good we had it with GT
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>>142754216
>This arc ends with future trunks returning to an empty timeline
>tfw mais shotgun is still there
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>>142754260
>Oh right, the death for more than a year thing...
Which isn't a thing any more.
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>>142754277
>>142754224
beerus gave birth to turles after eating goku's lettuce?
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>>142754289
It does. That's why he came back in chunks. Shenron can't fix the body after so much time has passed.

Does Porunga have that limitation?
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>>142754224
In Japanese, lettuce is レタス
Turles is ターレス
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>>142752109
Either not dead or will be brought back somehow.

I don't believe Toei would make the opening and marketing campaign just to mislead people.

It's fucking Dragon Ball, it doesn't need this kind of thing to bring attention to iteself and I doubt Toei thinks it does.

If anything people are giving them too much credit.
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>>142754294
Quit replying to yourself GTfag
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>>142754294
>Toriyama needs to go away from his own creation
>Toei continues fan fiction with GT without Toriyama
>faggots eats shit up and cry Toriyama not to touch their shit

>Toriyama proceeds to fuck GT fans up with Super in multiple levels

assblasted faggot detected
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KANEDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>142754277
But Turles was a shitty enemy, anon.
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>>142754277
>may
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>>142754302
Will he use the shotgun towards himself?
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>>142754289
It only existed for reviving many people at once, like when they wanted to use the Dragon Balls to kill the saiyans and revive Goku later.
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>>142754294
>GTfags still exist
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Future Mai or toddler Mai?
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Black Goku is Cabba
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>>142752109
Literally this scenario over again.
This week will be unbearable on /a/.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10461819
http://www.strawpoll.me/10461819
http://www.strawpoll.me/10461819

Vote
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>>142754338
That's not how it works, Shenron can only revive something in the state it was alive last.
So being cut up didn't kill Frieza, the blast did.
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I really hope they at least reference the movies or make this guy Turles or something. This would be too bad otherwise.
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>>142754228
zero
each diety class has a completely different design
all the kais had atennae
all the kaioshins had mohawks
whis and his sis had high hair
ZenO looked alien
Using the exact kaioshin outfit and using mohawked hair pretty much confirms that he's a kaioshin
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>>142754342
It can still be an anagram.
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>>142754395
has the same green outfit as toddler may
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>>142754338
>It does. That's why he came back in chunks. Shenron can't fix the body after so much time has passed.
No that's another limitation. For Shenron reviving means to bring back the soul to the body. If you want to fix the body, you need another wish. That's why Bulma often put her friend on cryogenic chambers when they died.
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>>142754395
>kid Trunks looking at her at same height

Future Mai is a tall lady and you should be able to see Trunks alone in a time machine.
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>>142754395
Toddler Mai. Future Mai's jacket isn't that green
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>all these people shitting on mai
LEAVE HER ALONE
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>>142754395
Why not both?
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>>142754443
>4443

you killed her and you didn't stop it.
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>>142754344
Most likely not dead and we'll see when he goes back to the future with Goku and Vegeta.
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Why does Mai and Bulma dying even matter? Can't Trunks just travel to a time before they die?
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can somebody sum up what happened in the episode for me? Also did we get a new opening?
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>>142753925
>At this point. future Trunks has pretty much lost everything
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>>142754443
YOU COULD HAVE SAVE HER
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>>142754495
Same song with different bits of animation.
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>>142754490
No, it uses Bill and Ted 1 rules
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>>142754443

YOU COULDN'T SAVE YOUR MOM

YOU COULDN'T SAVE YOUR WAIFU

And you let Gohan die
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>>142754495
Same opening but the U6 fighter bit was replaced with Trunks swinging his sword around and Mai shooting guns
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>>142754495
Bluma got killed
Mai got killed
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So I just saw next episode's preview.
>Future Trunks has blue hair
>Present Trunks still has purple hair
Bravo Toei.
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>>142754490
>Can't Trunks just travel to a time before they die?
If he does that, a new timeline with them alive is created, but they're still dead in his timeline.
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>>142754542
Mai is not dead retard
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>>142754495
>Also did we get a new opening
New scenes in the opening, and new eyecatches.
>can somebody sum up what happened in the episode for me?
Black kills Future Bulma and possibly Mai.
Goku has some long unfunny food scenes with Beerus and co.
Gohan gets his best scene in all of Super. Its a flashback to SSJ2 Gohan vs Cell.

Next ep, an enraged Trunks flees back to the past.
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>>142754443
Does Mai know that you let her die?
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>>142754302
>he travels back
>hops out of time machine standing where mai had died
>he stares off at the setting sun, a hard grim look on his face
>looks down and sees mais shotgun
>picks it up staring at it for a moment
>camera pans back so you see nothing but him standing there as a silhouette from a distance
>silhouette puts gun to chin and pulls the trigger
>hard cut to black
>credits roll
>no end theme music
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>>142754158
>>142753925
>he actually does bring her dead body with him
>Present Pilaf gang are spying and see F trunks arriving
>Mai sees her older dead self , freaks out and leaves Shu and Pilaf for a while
>She finally meets present Trunks when she tries to find out what happened

that would be quite an introduction.
Maybe the Pilaf gang could even join the others in finding the dragonballs and that's why Mai is in every episode?
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>>142754544
>implying it isn't stress what changed Future Trunks' hair

>Bravo Toei

Bravo anon.
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>>142754553
>still believes she's not dead
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>>142754402
What am I looking at? What happened with her?
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>>142754591
>find out what happened

wouldn't that gonna fuck her up in future or some shit
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>>142754602
They faked a funeral or soemthing
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>>142754570
>Goku has some long unfunny food scenes with Beerus and co.
They were talking about the King of All.

If I got it right, he is not strong in the physical sense, but can end all universes on a whim if he feels like it.
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>>142754402

wait????
WTF?!?

is that S&W?
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>>142754641
Yeah that happened too.
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Ok lets look at the options:
1. Future Mai is dead.
2. Future Mai is alive and Trunks returns to the past without her.
3. Future Mai is alive and goes back to the past with future trunks.
In the preview we see many shots of young trunks with a "OMFG" look on his face including one where he is looking at loli mai, obviously he is freaking out about meeting his older self, but why would he look all weirded out at loli mai? Unless he knew they had a future together right? so how does he know that? Future trunks says something?(he looks unconscious) or that future Mai returned with them?
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>Future Trunks now will have to live seeing the other timeline having a better life than him
All he can now is just stare.
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>>142754583
>the upbeat ED starts playing
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>>142754602
Nothing, just ruse that caused a lot death calling shitposting. Just like this.
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>>142754598
Don't reply to him. Dude is delusional and cannot accept the truth.
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>>142754641
Basically they said that originally there were 18 universes at first but he destroyed the others on w him or something.
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>>142754462
>>142754504
>>142754516
>>142754577
STOP
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>>142754667
Finally reasonable consideration.
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>>142754667
>or that future Mai returned with them?
There's a shot of Trunks inside the time machine. He's alone.
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>>142754667
>go back in his time turns out Bulma is actually just okay, tossed her aside from Black

>Mai is dead for good because she took the blast head on
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>>142753977
The only reason I am going to watch this arc is to see Trunks suffers to the point of becoming suicidal.
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>>142754495
Future Trunks let everyone in his timeline die/
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>>142754731
She got out before him and went to get help
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>>142754644
Yes, but don't worry. Holo is alive and have cute tomboy daughter.
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Is it possible that Trunks lost his transformations due not training?

see Gohan.
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>>142754669

He wanted the other timeline to turn out better though. That's one of the reasons he went there, even though he suspected that thanks to multiverse theory his own timeline might remain shitty.

It'll hurt, but he'll want his past self to have a happy ending.
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This episode was so damn great! Fuck everyone who bailed on Super. This is what we need. Toiryama has some fine tricks coming mother fuckers! I really hope Pilaf and Gang play a major role. The children Pilaf Gang and Future Mai working together.
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>>142754050
>uub
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>>142754789
I doubt Trunks stopped training. After everything he went through, the guilt weighing on him, he'd never give up on trying to protect everyone.
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>>142754793
>kid trunks and kid mai die
what would be his reaction?
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>>142754811
He is still happening, whatever you like it or not.
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Why do you faggots care so much that Mai is dead? Even if she went to the past there's nothing she was going to do that would add to the plot.

I'd say the best thing that could have happened is her dying to give Trunks even more incentive.
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>>142754789
I doubt it, unlike Gohan he's the only living fighter.
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>>142754846
His existence brings death, so seppuku.
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>>142754850
Posts like that are a diamond dozen. It's doggy dog thread.
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>>142754850
Uub has already happened. Now they're just waiting for him to grow up.
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why didn't Trunks go SSJ or reacted after Mai got blasted?

did they run out of animation budget?
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>>142754875
>if a character doesn't advance the plot they should die
by that logic all the characters besides Goku and Vegeta should die
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>>142754885
*Swordsman

phew, just saved you there anon. No problem, don't be thanking me.
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>>142752109
What did she and Future Bulma to deserve this
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>>142754809
>Future Mai

How are they going to work together with her if she is in the future, waiting for Future Trunks's return?
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>>142754885
Which begs the question, why didn't he try to build a new team of people to prevent this kind of shit from happening.

He had all that time from Cell till now. He could have trained people himself.
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>>142754946
It's for the sake of Super's plots.
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>>142754917
>budget meme
Retard pls
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>>142754961
>why didn't he try to build a new team of people to prevent this kind of shit from happening.
Please, unless you're a Saiyan you're going to get your shit fucked five ways from sunday.
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>>142754917
I'd guess he's very weak due to being hunted by Goku Black for a while.
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>>142754809
>The children Pilaf Gang and Future Mai working together.
they can't work together with dead people
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>>142754961
I doubt there's many people that he can train at that level. Also, do we know how much time passed since he killed Cell to this?
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>>142754789
He used a new sword blast this episode though.
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I see so what they mean by Major Role for Mai is to act as reminder for Future Trunks that he failed
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>>142752558
Idiot, this Trunks has purple hair. It's not the same of the blue one.
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>>142755022
Only a few years I thought. I mean, future Trunks is what, 23?

I heard someone throw out 30 as well. I dunno.
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>>142755047
>implying it isn't Bulma
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>>142755022
He traveled 17 years to the past and ended up in Super's current timeline. So, around 10 or so years passed since the Cell Saga in his own time.
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>>142755047
It doesn't get more major than that for a character like Mai.
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>>142754015
>ONE
>EARRING
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>>142753095
>established multiverse

> people still get butthurt over canon
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>>142755047
Bulma is his new guilt complex. Mai will be back and you guys will fee embarrassed for thinking otherwise.

... r-right?
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>>142752858
Goku Black is probably going to chase Future Trunks into our timeline, get killed, and then Bulma and Whis will gather the Super Dragon Balls to restore Future Trunks' Earth to the little shithole it was before Goku Black showed up. I'm just interested in who the new Kai is and if Gohan will actually get to show off his training in this arc any.
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>>142755134
It's not that kind of multiverse. People are still confused by this??
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So I noticed Goku and Vegeta go SSBlue with their old/normal clothes at the grouo shot.
Are they really getting rid of their new clothes? I liked it.
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>>142755054
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6BaBCVL-L8

It likely won't be mentioned in Super, but Xenoverse seems to be saying that Super Trunks is Xeno Trunks after Goku Black destroyed the future.
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>>142755156
>if Gohan will actually get to show off his training in this arc any.
You're just asking for disappointment, anon
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>>142753645
Technically they can't retcon it. DBZ and DBGT is in a separate continuity from DBK and DBS.
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subs when?
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>>142755188
>Xenoverse
I meant Heroes, sorry.
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>>142755165
Yes. Every thread there's people talking about alternate Gokus and Vegetas from other universes showing up in the Zen'o tournament.
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>>142755179
Too bad, everyone didn't liked it so they changed it back to original versions.

They didn't like it, it's way to late to say something like that right now. I like it too.
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So is everybody too occupied crying over Mai to talk about what the preview said?
Goku and Vegeta will go to Future Trunks's future to fight Black. Shit is going to be good.
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>>142755004
If they went to a different time line ;) We're about to get wacky Imperfect Cell Saga style.
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>>142755220
Kai and Z are the exact same thing minus filler.
GT is outright non canon.
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>>142752878
there's very little dialogue in this one, just watch it, you can pick up on whats happening
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>>142755246
Next Episode Preview:

>Hey, this is Goku! Wha?! Future Trunks got beat up by some enemy called “Black” who looks just like me? And now Trunks has come to our world in his time machine?! This is no time to be taking it easy! Alright then! Me and Vegeta will go face him! Next time on Dragon Ball Super: “Hope Again!! Trunks Awakens in the Present” Don’t miss it!
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>>142755165
>>142755236
I guess they can also mean multiple timelines though.
There 3 or 4 confirmed to exist by Cell Saga. If you want to go the "inifnite amount of parallel words" route then yeah you can everything happens somewhere.
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>>142755238
I liked them too. I figured it was just the new style. I mean, even Goku has gone through a few changes in wardrobe and Vegeta has tons of old outfits behind him.
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>>142755188
damn heores is always up to date with everything


i wonder if the deves of the game are already working on an update for the next multiverse tournament arc
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>>142755226

Pafu usually around 9am EST
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>>142755300
That got me to thinking.

Since we know that the multiverse doesn't work that way but alternate timelines are a thing within the universe then GT could happen for sure.

Which means SSJ4 is a thing no matter what, they just skipped it in Super.
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>>142755188
>>142755231
Sounds reasonable. With Bulma and Mai dead, he has not reason to go back to his timeline. In that sense this arc makes for a good tie-in with the game.
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>>142755140
Right.
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>>142755315
How does Heroes play like?

I see the animations all the time but never saw any gameplay.
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>>142755156
>if Gohan will actually get to show off his training in this arc any.
Where is Gohan in the title of Goku and Vegeta show?
Holy shit, Vegeta and Goku are very weak protagonist, I can't give a shit about them.
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She is dead isn't she?
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>>142755360
gt is not cannon and never will retard
no matter how much you try to force it
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>>142755188
wait is that raditz at the end


could it be that heroes IS telling us that uncle raditz will be on super just like it showed us that goku would get ssblue in RoF
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>>142755409
ded
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>>142755394
You put a card on the Arcade joysticks area, you swip it around to fight in the game.
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>>142755293
I wonder how the people who made all these ToraMai pics are feeling right now. Poor things.
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>>142755423
I didn't like GT I just liked some elements of it. Like Pans design and SSJ4.
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>>142755360
GT has it's own contradictions to begin with, also the only timeline split is surrounding Trunks' events.
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>>142755265
You just said shit that doesn't matter. Different continuities exist regardless of inclusion of "filler" as you call it, or anything "non canon". In fact, those are the very reasons why DBZ/DBGT is counted as a different continuity than DBK/DBS.
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>>142755293
>This is no time to be taking it easy! Alright then! Me and Vegeta will go face him
So does this refer to future trunks or Black?
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>>142755409

>no blood

Yeah, she's okay.
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>>142755394
It's basically an RPG where you need cards for party members.

>>142755425
The 2nd half of the trailer is an heroes original arc. It has nothing to do with Super.
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>>142755394
Like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJNNpnIbzks
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Great ost and some nice animation this episode was pretty good.
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>>142755425
looks like a alternate raditz or some shit, because it seems he has actual saiyan elite armor on, doubt that has anything to do with heroes's super arc though.
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>>142755409
>SNAP

holy fuck, she is dead.
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>>142753019
>implying future trunks didn't keep up his training after defeating cell and AT LEAST got to ssj2.
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>>142755458
They'll learn to never trust Toriyama and Toei ever again.
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why is toriyama and by extension toei allowed to kill two iconic characters in a single episode?
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>>142755409
I don't think her neck can do that
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>>142755458
dead, just like their waifu and ship
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>>142755425
no he is arriving on Earth to stop Black.
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>>142755409
To be honest it just looks like she was knocked out, but that simply isn't possible. There is no way Mai, a normal human, could survive a fucking Ki Blast. If she isn't dead then it is an inconsistency.
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>>142755238
>everyone didn't liked it
That's one of the few things about RoF and Super I've seen very few people, if any, complain about.
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>>142755457
That... sounds fucking awful.

>>142755483
That looks awful.

Damn I was hoping it was a fighting game. Maybe we will get some stuff from it in the next Xenoverse.
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>>142755499
He can do sword beams now? Cool.
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>>142755246
>>142755293
>Everything revolves around Goku and Vegeta, again. If this arc the Vegeta and Goku show is shit again, in my book it will worse than GT.
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Spanish subs are up

http://jkanime.net/dragon-ball-super/47/
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>>142755499
Just noticed his sword flew away from him on the end.

Did he bring it in the time machine or what
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Can someone explain what they were saying about Zeno-sama?
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>>142755477
we've only seen blood once in Super
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>>142754405
Why is there so much dead shitposting when more people think she is alive than dead?
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>>142755586
I love Pan!!!!!
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>>142755562
>Damn I was hoping it was a fighting game.

Hahahahahaha look at this guy, thinking we'd be getting Dragon Ball Heros Super.
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>>142755591
Goku asks if he's strong and then they go on for a bit about Saiyans measuring everything in strength. However, they reveal that there were 18 universes originally but Zen'o destroyed 6 of them once when he got angry.
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>>142755582
Anything to make the sword more relevant I love.
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>>142755499
what if trunks can't go SSJ because there isn't enough food and getting that kind of ki is too hard for his weakened and hungry body?
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>>142755474
Okay, for one no one but you calls Z and Kai two different continuities because they're the exact same continuity.
It's not an FMA situation where the events of both anime diverge at about Lab Five, these are exactly the same to the point where they use the exact same scenes.

Secondly, are you seriously trying to say that filler affects anything in the series when they're designed to be offshoots that don't affect the story?
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>>142755591
There were originally 18 universes. Zeno got offended one time and destroyed 6 of them.
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>>142755589
Shieet, that is right.
Why is the sword with him in the preview?
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>>142755619
>when more people think she is alive than dead?
Kek, you wish.
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>>142754168
Is this about future/mirai timeline or the current/main one?
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>>142754294
>GT
>Good when compared to anything in Super
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>142755671
>mentioned these in the first episode of Trunks saga

I see, there's going be some story to those dead universes involving in Trunks timeline.
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>>142754583
DELETE THIS!
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Super is shit no doubts but it doesn't stop being interesting
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This man is your friend.
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>>142755562
These kind of Arcade Card Games are, or at least used to be, pretty popular in Japan.
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>>142755659
Sure, why the fuck not? It's as good an explanation as any for why nobody can do shit except Goku (and sometimes Vegeta).
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Poor Future Bulma.

Fucking Vaporized.
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>>142755758
>Super
>good
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Fuck man
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>>142754583
>Hear Trunks say "ow"
>Trunks realizes he can't just kill himself by shooting himself
>looks for his sword
>can't find it
>goes into fettle position.
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>>142754625
its a divergent timeline as soon as he uses the time machine
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>>142755799
BLACK DID NOTHING WRONG
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>>142755758
>GT = Super
Both are inferior shit.
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>>142755758
GT opening. AT least give the thing that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJcuDgVYjgI
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>>142755562
It's more fun than it looks like.
>>
>Trunks can’t sense Black’s ki, so they head off. Soon though, the same shadowy figure as before approaches. Despite Trunks’ protests, Mai distracts Black so that Trunks can get away, saying that Trunks is the one who absolutely must stay alive.

>Mai is attacked by Black and sent flying, and Trunks rushes to her side, finding her dead. Trunks faces off against Black, who is revealed to look exactly like Goku, except dressed in black clothes with a red belt and single green earring. “At long last”, says Black “Today’s the day you die, Saiyan.”

i wonder how he will even make it to the present
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>>142754583
>>silhouette puts gun to chin and pulls the trigger
>>hard cut to black
>BLAM
>*clink*
>Body instinctively tenses up and he can't kill himself because of it
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>>142755665
>Okay, for one no one but you calls Z and Kai two different continuities because they're the exact same continuity.
Your claim is demonstrated to be wrong because of the "fillers", aka the different events that occur between them.

>It's not an FMA situation where the events of both anime diverge at about Lab Five, these are exactly the same to the point where they use the exact same scenes.
"Using the same scenes" is irrelevant. Unless the two have the exact same events acknowledged within both, they are definitively separate continuities.

>Secondly, are you seriously trying to say that filler affects anything in the series when they're designed to be offshoots that don't affect the story?
Well, DBZ is presented to be set in a world that has more or less the same physics as ours, aside from of course the ki bullshit. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that their world's physics operates in a way that any given event in that reality affect any events afterward. Therefore, I'm not trying to say it, as it is already acknowledged within the parameters of how fictional worlds operate.
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>>142755850
>trunks is kars 2.0
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>>142754583
>half breed saiyan

>killed by bullet shells
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>>142755799
Did he have a name? Goku Black seems just a code name for new viewers until his name will be truly revealed
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>>142754583
JUST
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So black Goku is Universe 6 Goku who never went to Earth?
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>>142752605
So was Tagoma.
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>>142755858
Of course!
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>>142755879
I'm sure the inside of the mouth and eyes are squishy enough to turn his brains to mush.
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>>142755742
Applies to either one since the Kais died well before the split.
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>>142755858
He killed the two hottest women in DBZ.

Fuck Turles Jr.
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>>142755920
Nah, he knows the Kamehameha. I guess he's a survivor from one of the universes destroyed by Zen'o that also resembled universes 6 and 7.
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>>142755858
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I'm just shocked Trunks isn't suicidal yet. Fuck.
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Just watched it.

Garbage as usual. Dropped Super in Ep. 3 and picked it up for Future Trunks, don't know how long I can last until I drop this too.

R.I.P. an anime about ripped dudes in a serious setting kicking ass in well animated and shaded style
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>>142756005
oh, i'm sure he is now
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>>142755965
I could have sworn Whis said that each Universe only has one parallel.
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>Evil Goku
What the fuck is this? DC Comics?
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>>142756005
Don't worry. He'll get there.
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>>142755940
They didn't send replacement Kais to the main universe because they aren't technically "dead". Being part of Buu doesn't count. We actually don't even know how Kais die, seeing as Old Kai and King Kai both "died" but are still around. We know they have a age limit of about 75 thousand years.

For the new universe, we also also don't know if they're still alive or not, since we don't know what happened regarding Buu (and the problem of how Kais actually die is still an issue)
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>>142756029
t. jorge huego [proof of citizenship N/A]
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>>142756037
Detective Comics Comics?
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>>142756031
>>142756041
Nah, first it's rage, then it's suicide.
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>>142756033
He also said that there were only 12 universes at that point. There might have been one extra parallel for each universe when there was the full 18 universes set.
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>>142756005
>>142756031
>>142756041
just wait till he sees present trunks and loli Mai together
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>>142756090
this kills the future trunks
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>>142756005
DIdn't the voice actor of Future trunks said that F trunks is gonna act like a mentally drained person?
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>>142755799
not gonna lie, that was hype as fuck
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>want to hate king zeno for destroying universes willy nilly
>want to hate beerus for destroying things
>cant bring myself to

I guess they don't feel evil to me, just like forces of nature.
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>>142756090
Loli Mai and kid Trunks aren't even together in Super though.
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>>142756062

Sorry to burst your bubble there, kiddo
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>>142756158
yet
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>>142756090
What if Loli Mai dies as well by the end of the arc? Future Trunks suffering would be even greater, I think.
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>>142756156
Mexican kids all over the world are creaming themselves.

Between all this and Xenoverse it's like a Mexican kid renaissance.
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>>142752166
Doesn't it seem like he has a different face from Goku? This is especially weird considering the Toriyama sameface syndrome.
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>>142756050
Sorry, lifespan not age limit
And by Kais I mean Shin-jin (so Kaioshin, Kais, whatever Kibito is, Makaioshin, etc.)
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>>142755876
>Your claim is demonstrated to be wrong because of the "fillers", aka the different events that occur between them.
The fillers don't affect the events of the main story, at all. Have you never noticed that the characters act as if those events never happened the episode after the filler events?

>. Unless the two have the exact same events acknowledged within both
They do anon, they're the exact same events, in the exact same place in the timeline, in the exact same universe.
The fillers are literally things that never happened in any continuity which is why, like I said above, the characters act as if those events never happened at all.
Also have a youtube link of a Kai Z comparison just to drive it home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEncqyKH9M4

>Well, DBZ is presented to be set in a world that has more or less the same physics as ours, aside from of course the ki bullshit. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that their world's physics operates in a way that any given event in that reality affect any events afterward. Therefore, I'm not trying to say it, as it is already acknowledged within the parameters of how fictional worlds operate.
What does anything here have to do with the conversation at hand?
For starters in universe physics have nothing to do with continuity because that's an out of universe thing
Secondly, IT. IS. FILLER. Within the parameters of any fictional world filler doesn't happen because the knowledge of those events have been wiped from the characters minds in the episodes after those events and on top of that it doesn't exist in the original material it's derived from.

There is no importance to filler at all and Kai and Z are the same continuity.
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>>142756181
Future Mai died because she was together with Trunks.
Loli Mai will have the same fate if she gets with Kid Trunks.
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>>142752109
?
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>>142756029
>He thinks that DB didn't always have inconstant animation.
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Hope when?
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Black is just there to end time law breaking with time machine.

His intention is misunderstood .
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>>142756181
After scraping the hints from the movie, and now killing Future Mai, you really think Toei is have them get together? I doubt it.
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>>142756220
Loli Mai doesn't know that.
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Mai a cute
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>>142756158
>>142756090
at least they will get their first meeting in Super. delayed from the BoG arc
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>>142756266
They're shown together several times in the preview for the next episode. They'll scramble to put them together in a few minutes next week in order to follow Toriyama's plot.

We know that Mai's VA is becoming part of the main cast, so that's the only explanation at this point since future Mai died.
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>>142756309
Were they eating cat food?
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>>142756330
>>142756333
There's no blush this time. No flag.
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>>142756176
wow an old redrawn and upsized crop of a year-old episode

i bet you never even watched Dragon Ball
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>>142756333
>We know that Mai's VA is becoming part of the main cast
She didn't say that.
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>>142756353
Dog food
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>>142756266
From a pure marketing standpoint, they wouldn't kill Future Mai. Jesus you people are fucking dumb.
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>>142755688
Probably Trunks will make Black retreat somehow and recover his sword.
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>>142756353
Seems like it
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>>142756353
Dog food. Seriously. It is even worse when you remember we just got a shot of Goku, Vegeta and Beerus eating tasty food in the present. It was really sad to watch. Why the fuck Toei and Toriyama torture Future Trunks this much? I feel like this arc will be just Future Trunks suffering a lot all kind of humiliations and despairing.

>>142756330
They did meet in Super, though. They met in the boat. Trunks and Goten saved the Pilaf Gang from being eaten by sharks.
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>>142755911
gokuro
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>>142756452
>Why the fuck Toei and Toriyama torture Future Trunks this much?
Because he needs a reason to go back in time.
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>>142756452
Seriously they were eating tasty food. It's like as if they were comparing his shit life.
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>>142755911
I think they just call him black.
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>>142756423
Do you fear tomorrow you will be crying?
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>>142756452
>vegeta gets mugged, sucks on a pacifier
>bulma get fucking murdered
>trunks has to eat fucking dogfood, loses his mom and his waifu
the briefs sure have it rough this arc
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>>142756400

>Mai’s voice actress, Eiko Yamada, recently commented on Twitter that she would be on the show “every week” beginning with episode 47:

Ok, not "part of the main cast", but she'll be on the show every week. I don't see why Mai would be hanging around with the main cast from now on unless they bring up the crush.
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>>142756518
Does that mean in the eventual english dub he'll be called Dark?
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>>142756423
>From a pure marketing standpoint, they wouldn't kill Future Mai
What the fuck are you talking about? Mai's not a main character. Killing her wouldn't effect them at all. In fact, this franchise makes money mostly with the games, and Mai doesn't even appear in them.
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>>142753124
>then Present Trunks should be much stronger than Future Trunks

present trunks is like 6 and has a fusion crutch, FT is the only person who can defend his planet

who do you think trains more?
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>>142756559
No, they'll call him Metal.
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>>142755965
did you not see his face?
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>>142756251
They touched my favorite character and made him a skinny bottom twink.

Toriyama will pay. Dearly.
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>>142756540
>the briefs
That reminds me, does Vegeta have a first or last name or is his name just Vegeta?
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>>142756452
No one travels back in time to to give good news...
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>>142756386
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>>142756516
That was clearly intentional, anon. They were comparing the family, friends, food and fights one by one just to create a sense of contrast between the two timelines.
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>>142756559
Black just to trigger the SJW. Also I will to have to skip 47 episodes then.
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>>142756395

>baaaaw Super is a good anime
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>>142753840
because he has sifilis
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>>142756542
>I don't see why Mai would be hanging around with the main cast from now on unless they bring up the crush.
She could be there because Future Trunks mentioned he knew her from his timeline and she wants to help save her future self. That doesn't mean they gonna ship her with kid Trunks.
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>Black
That´s fucking Goten.
He might have fused or something, with something else or something else fuse with him by force using the potara earrings.
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>>142756029
wow anon your opinion is so different to everyone else that really makes you special how can i become as smart as you
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>>142756690
>and she wants to help save her future self.

You can't really save what is already dead.
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>>142756602
Fug, I was thinking the same thing.
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>>142756603
Trunks was going to when he killed his Androids... then Cell killed him.
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>>142756452
Was that suppose to be a relief of tension? It honest made me just feel pity.
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>>142756215
>The fillers don't affect the events of the main story, at all. Have you never noticed that the characters act as if those events never happened the episode after the filler events?
My claims have been demonstrated. You're just spewing nonsense that I have already refuted successfully. Why would you even type that bullshit out at this point? Is it because you're anonymous and know you won't look like a complete retard?

Besides, DBGT isn't a "filler", and it certainly affected the whole continuity.

>They do anon, they're the exact same events, in the exact same place in the timeline, in the exact same universe.
As I said, there are events that happen in both that do not happen in both. Those very events demonstrate that they are not in fact the same universe.

>The fillers are literally things that never happened in any continuity which is why, like I said above, the characters act as if those events never happened at all.
Can you demonstrate this claim? If you can't, then there is no reason to believe you.

>Also have a youtube link of a Kai Z comparison just to drive it home.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEncqyKH9M4
You haven't made a point though. You've just made claims which you haven't demonstrated. And what exactly does this video supposed to demonstrate?

Are you trying to convince someone right now, or is your mind just religiously circlejerking?

>What does anything here have to do with the conversation at hand?
>For starters in universe physics have nothing to do with continuity because that's an out of universe thing
You're claiming that universe physics is an out of universe thing. Think about that for a second.

You're displaying a literally insane amount of cognitive dissonance right now.

>Secondly, IT. IS. FILLER.
Serious question here: So what? Just because you say it in all caps doesn't give your claims any more relevance.
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>>142752280
If I were Future Trunks I would say "Fuck this gay earth" and go to chill in the past/alt timeline for the rest of my days
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>>142756718
There must be a way. Otherwise there wouldn't be any reason for Vegeta and Goku to go to future to fight Black.
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>>142756690
I don't see why she'd need to be there for that at all.

Also, she's shown standing by kid Trunks' side twice in the preview, and there's one shot of kid Trunks looking at her.
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>>142756743
Continued.

>Within the parameters of any fictional world filler doesn't happen because the knowledge of those events have been wiped from the characters minds in the episodes after those events and on top of that it doesn't exist in the original material it's derived from.
Demonstrate your claim.

Demonstrate that the events that differentiate the two continuities are "filler". Demonstrate why by definition they shouldn't matter. Demonstrate why your opinion that they shouldn't matter applies to reality.
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>>142756599
Don't worry man. I'm sure after stuffing some food. He should regain his gains.

I mean they were eating cat food you know? Not enough protein on those things
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>>142756774
Well, actually there is a way.
Either the Namek Dragon Balls or the Super Dragon Balls could ressurect Mai and Bulma.
Also, why no one is bringing up the fact Goku could go to Future Namek for the Dragon Balls since he is going to the future together with Vegeta?
Even if Future Mai is dead she is probably getting ressurected eventually.
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I hope future trunks turns faggot present trunks into a man instead of the spoiled brat he is
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>>142756704
I don't think you can become as smart as me until you grow older, Anon.
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>>142753991
He's too much in the background to get something important like that to happen him.
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>>142756775
>I don't see why she'd need to be there for that at all.
I don't see why Mai was part of this arc at all, but there you have it.

>Also, she's shown standing by kid Trunks' side twice in the preview, and there's one shot of kid Trunks looking at her.
None of that means they're gonna get together.
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>>142754015
he has the other potara earing
> black and homoshin confirmed couple
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>>142756664
He Thinks
>>
So is Black Goku stronger than Bills and Wiz? Because if not then why the fuck will Black Goku be a whole Arc? Those two could kil him with just one finger. Seriously with Omni King, Champa and all those extremely powerful characters the show doesn't feel exciting anymore
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>>142756255
Never.
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>>142756720
She was too qt for this world.
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>>142756956
>Bills and Wiz
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>>142756948
Dragon Ball
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>>142756884
Me too, but I doubt it.
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>>142756982
has never
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>ft comes back to job and have the only 2 people in his timeline left die

yay
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>>142756815
Knowing Super, I really doubt it.

They took care to make Vegeta as close to Goku as possible, and dropping literally every other Z fighter.

Trunks will get the same treatment.
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>>142756946
Green Kai's are a different color and he's wearing one in both ears in that pic
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>>142757024
had inconstant animation.
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>>142756815
Sorry man but the gains are never coming back.

Toriyama has lost his appreciation for gains and changed his artstyle to this more thin look.

Dragonball will never have gains ever again.
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>>142755544
>To be honest it just looks like she was knocked out, but that simply isn't possible. There is no way Mai, a normal human, could survive a fucking Ki Blast. If she isn't dead then it is an inconsistency.

it's called the power of LOVE idiot
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>>142754908
they literally mentioned him already in super
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>>142756948
>>142756982
Can't you stop with your desesperate attempts to defend Super?
Super will never have the music, designs, nice moments Z have. Not to talk about the fights that lasted more than ten seconds looking good.
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>>142754917
he seemed exhausted.
my guess is hes had several fights and was running ragged
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>>142757064
Toriyama could at least let him have a waifu to make up for his lack of gains, it'll be complete bullshit when Kid Trunks gets to have one while Future Trunks continues to get shit on.
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>>142757087
No one cares for your self fellating nostalgia
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>>142757084
I wasn't disarguing with you. I could care less. We'll be arguing insurgals all day about it if we don't stop.
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>>142756956
>Bills
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>>142757061
Super didn't have QUALITY as the protagonist in wholes episodes.
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>>142756090
I wish you moefags would fuck off. You have dozens of threads to shit up, Leave DB threads alone.
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>>142756948
>>142756982
>>142757024
>>142757061
>4 pics

Let's count Super's, you 9 year old bandwagon faggot!!
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>>142757151
>self fellating nostalgia
You have to be delusional as fuck to defend Super at this level.
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>>142755501
no, he has regular radditz armor
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>>142757233
>"good"
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>>142756029

Dubaby: The post.
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>>142757233
Funny how people seem to be only able to pull from one episode, where as the 4 pics I got were all from different episodes.
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>>142757272
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>>142757198

>>>/v/
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>>142756743
>My claims have been demonstrated. You're just spewing nonsense that I have already refuted successfully. Why would you even type that bullshit out at this point? Is it because you're anonymous and know you won't look like a complete retard?
>Besides, DBGT isn't a "filler", and it certainly affected the whole continuity.
You haven't refuted shit, for one you refute to acknowledge the fact that filler is inherently non canon.
Then you're trying to say that GT affected more than just itself which doesn't make a lick of sense.

>there are events that happen in both that do not happen in both.
Literally only the non canon filler events.

>Can you demonstrate this claim?
Search for any filler moment throughout the entirety of Dragonball and you will find that the next episode has the characters have forgotten all about it.
For example, the 10 days before the Cell games.
Goku dropping off of snake way.
Fake Namek
The driving episode, in fact there's a plot hole with that episode because Chi chi has been seen driving herself before and they apparently don't have a car.
The list goes on.

>You've just made claims which you haven't demonstrated.
Except I have, you're just ignoring them for your own agenda.

>And what exactly does this video supposed to demonstrate?
That the events in Z and Kai are exactly the same you retard.

>You're claiming that universe physics is an out of universe thing. Think about that for a second.
You're kidding right?
Continuity is an out of universe thing decided by the writers. The universe written doesn't dictate the writers, dumbass.

>Serious question here: So what?
They don't match up to anything and only go on to make severe contradictions plot wise. In other words, they can't happen.

>Demonstrate your claim
See above.
>Demonstrate why your opinion that they shouldn't matter applies to reality.
>opinion
They literally lie on the outside of the Dragonball continuity and have no bearing on the events within.
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>>142757291
>>142757321
>""good"
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>>142757233
4 is all I chose to post, I can get more if you like.
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>>142753269
his only happy ending would be dying.... he is Punished Trunks
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>>142756957
what is happening in this picture?
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>>142757257
>yellow shoulder pads
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>>142757427
This isn't even bad. Pick related is bad.
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>>142756029
>two people brutally murdered in one episode
>implying that isn't serious enough
>implying dbz didn't have several QUALITY shots
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>>142757274
Your argument has no logical base to stand on as Goku actually sounds like a little dyke girl in the Jap version.

Your continued support of garbage will only create more garbage.
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>>142757291
>>142757457
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>>142756743
>>142756811
Dude, enough with the bait already.
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>>142757508
Here's some more.
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>>142757540
Fuck RoF was so bad.
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>>142757508
>>142757516
I've seen worse desu lad
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>>142757529
Dude are you seriously taking stills from a movie and comparing it to the series?
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>>142754050
and we might get Super Saiyan Pan
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>>142757556
keep it up. How many episodes of DBZ?

Now Super?

Lol.
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>>142756664
>muh DBZ was perfect and utterly flawless, how dare they??//
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>>142757580
I have too.
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>>142757599
So was he here >>142757508 , so why shouldn't I?
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>>142757669
That Cell face is perfect
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have watched only the first three episodes, is Piccolo any good in this?
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>>142753962
I'm betting on Vegeta but... what if Beerus gets BLACKED?
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>>142757688
For one it doesn't make your argument look any better by taking stills from a movie with a higher budget.
Two, that still makes your argument look worse because he took that still from a movie with a higher budget.
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>>142757675
>>142757508

>when they run out of images they have to use the same
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>>142757540
>>142757556
>>142757508
>>142757669
>>142757675
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>>142756176
>kiddo
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>>142757764
Not him but those are two different images.
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>>142757764
They are two different frames. And no I didn't run out.
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>>142757738
He's a fantastic grandpa. Not much else.
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>>142757797
>>142757819
Show when Z reached this level.
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>>142752109
I want her to be dead because I dont give a fuck about Mai, but they put her in the opening. Shes alive.
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>>142757738
He jobs to Frost, discovers Monaka is weak by using his Namekian hearing and loves to babysit Pan.
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Se murió
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>want to watch goku black
>still no no subs
>mfw

Why doesn't crunchyroll simulcast it so we can have horriblesubs rip ?
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>>142754928
They might as well be dead.
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>>142757753
>>142757819
Ok, you want movie stills from DB Super movie
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>>142757921
She's in the OP because she's important to Trunks. Doesn't mean she's not dead.
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>>142756366

>mfw this is Supreme Kai that Potara fused with Dende or some other Namekian
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>>142758074
RoF and BoG are Z movies anon.
Also you picked out one that's purposely from a distance to the point where it would be absurdly difficult to get proper detail.
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>>142754793
Future Trunks could be one hell of a character if Toriyama didn't want to shill Goku and Vegeta to kingdom fucking come
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>>142758025
herms98 has the whole episode translated in cliffs on his twitter.
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>>142758074
That's at least shot from a distance, the stills I posted where up close.
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>>142754837
my money is on him achieving ssj 2 or atleast 3 since as you say he probably didn't stop training also, does the Hyperbolic time chamber still work in his timeline? If I were him I would've used in sometimes just to get the most out of my training
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>>142752166
Goku is evil now?
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>>142758197
also on the topic of the HTC how the hell was Goku able to enter it a third time in Super, I thought you could only enter twice
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>>142758217
Whoever it is, it's not Goku.
Nor is it a Saiyan.
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What's the point of going back in time? Isn't his timeline going to be exactly the same no matter what?
Oh, wait, a better question is, what is the point in coming back? If i was him i would find a way to go forward in time, kill the other Trunks and get Maifu.
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>>142758074
Stop posting, Manuel. You don't belong here.
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>>142758283
To ask for help dummy.
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>>142758261
Dende made a new one that has no limit in how many years you can be inside
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>>142758283
I'm guessing they made a plan to things actually change this time.
Also Super Dragonballs.
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>>142758283
I wonder if posts like these are just bait
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>>142757039
and this make homoshin and black no gay?
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>>142756452
>Dog food. Seriously.

She specifically says its NOT dog food.
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>>142758336
Probably, they wouldn't just kill of Bulma and Mei if they're not bringing them back, almost everyone ends up reviving in DB.
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>>142758393
>almost everyone ends up reviving in DB.
Well, unless you're from the future.
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>>142758000
tripas de la verdad
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>>142758381
The way she says it implies that they are lucky that this time she found something that is not dog food
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>>142758335
Thanks, I just googled it and it said that now you could train for three consecutive days (like Goku and Vegeta on the champaa saga) but did not mentioned anything about having an entrance limit like the first one
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>>142758270
So there's another evil in the future after the androids were taken care off after Trunk goes to the past?
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>>142758175
How far do you guys have to reach? Do you know I'm posting shit from within the same episode or just a few episodes away from each other? How long a run has DBZ had?

DBSuper has gotten animation criticism and it's well deserved. The fucking thing hasn't even reached 50 episodes yet there are so many images of shit drawing on the internet.

Personally I can't blame Toei knowing how the anime industry has changed from the violent gritty 90s to the early 00's from which so many famous shounen came out to the late 00s to now where cute things make more money by far.

I'm not gonna waste my time anymore. I don't see the appeal in Super.
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>>142758288
That's Senor Manuel to you, dakimakura hugging gringo.
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next ep
>vegeta: i will go to the future and beat this fake kakarot
>goku: no fair i wanna fight him too
>vegeta: but you defeated my purple self last time
>goku: fine i let you go first
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>>142758533
You do know that the point is not to show that Super isn't bad but that Dragonball has always had shitty animation right?
Also what's wrong with that frame?
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This eye animation was so fast I thought it was an animation mistake. It looked silly.
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>>142756309
>cute
i want to pat dead Yamada so hard
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>>142758730
HAYAI
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Why an adult mai is with alternative timeline trunks?
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>>142758844
Because they were deaged some time before Piccolo fused with Kami.
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>>142758844
So that on top of losing his mother they could kill his waifu too.
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>>142758844

Because Trunks hadn't suffered enough.
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>>142758873
It had to have been in the years BEFORE the Androids and the dragon wouldve had to make Mai 0 years old for it to make any sense.
Which is a little weird because in BoG they talked as if they made the wish just last week.
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>>142758946
Well to be fair, we don't know if Future Mai is older than Trunks or not.
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>>142754135
Majin Buu appeared when Trunks was a kid. Buu never happened in future trunk's timeline.
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>>142758946
>It had to have been in the years BEFORE the Androids and the dragon wouldve had to make Mai 0 years old for it to make any sense.
No, just before Piccolo and Kami fused because after that Shenron could make multiple wishes as opposed to just one and in RoF they didn't know that.

>Which is a little weird because in BoG they talked as if they made the wish just last week.
That was more for the viewer's benefit than anything else.

Also doesn't Pilaf have a castle still?
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>>142758646
>has always had shitty animation
Bad animation doesn't mean the puke that is Super. If what you are saying is that I should eat the eye cancer that is Super and don't complain, you are retard and a hardcore fanboy.
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>>142759095
No one is saying that, just quit shit talking Super like it's the first DB series to have shitty animation.
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>>142759095
>If what you are saying is that I should eat the eye cancer that is Super and don't complain
If you can eat the eye cancer that is the dragonball anime?
Then yes.

Both are equal levels of shit quality wise.
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>>142757675
>>142757556
Are you seriously comparing the Cooler movie with Super?
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>>142759148
>it's the first DB series to have shitty animation
>>142759151
>Both are equal levels of shit quality wise.
No, Z never had Super levels of quality and you should kill yourself if you think so.
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>>142759232
>No, Z never had Super levels of quality and you should kill yourself if you think so.
The anon providing the stills literally gave you proof of that, even within the movies.

They're both shit, only you're attached to Z because you were a kid at the time.
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>>142759232
If your seriously think that after all the shit that was just posted then there's no use bothering with you.
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I wonder what Pandoras box doing now.
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>>142759282
>>142759339
As I said show me where Z reached this levels
Here >>142757540
>>142757913
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>>142759202
>movie with a higher budget somehow has animation on par with Super which is not only stricken by a low budget but amateur workers and a stifled industry
If anything it just shows how terrible Z was.
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>>142759400
Just look in the thread anon.
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>>142759435
Don't bother anon. No one can reason with autists even when shown that they're wrong.
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>>142759400
The thread is going to die before anyone can find anything you know.
I mean we're already on page 10.
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>>142759435
>>142759477
>>142759483
So you are this delusional. Face it, Super is shit in horrible levels. You are worse than toonamifags.
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>>142759649
The only delusional one here is you anon, I mean you're outright denying the QUALITY scenes and lack of consistent character design DBZ had.
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>People shitting the thread comparing stills, one of the most retarded things you can do when talking about animation.

Go back to /v/ already.
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>>142757913
>expand dong
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