Hyouka

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Hyouka is my favorite anime in the past 10 years right next to Nichijou, Haruhi is my favorite anime of all time. I wasn't even a KyoAni fag before realizing most of the shows I love came from them.

TYBKA

The animation is gorgeous and I still listen to the OST every now and then. Overall, a good anime, it's just that I expected the whole anthology thing to be the main plot and offer some more excitement so it kinda let me down. Still enjoyable, though.

>>142677992
Good taste.

snore

>>142677992
Okay taste but Euphonium and Clannad AS should get some love too

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>>142677881
Yeah it was fu-...Zzzzzzzzzzzz

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Thanks Kyoani, it was fun.

>>142679568
>MC picks himself instead of slutty bimbo
TYBKA

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>>142679568
poor Mai

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Hyuoka is undoubtely the best thing KyoAni has ever released. I can't believe the same people who claim Hyouka is boring can enjoy a cringeworthy snorefest such as K-On!

>>142677881
Thanks Kyoani, I slept pretty good.

>>142679035
And Tamako Love Story

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>>142679781

Based MC.

>>142679939
K-on!! feels a lot more authentic than Hyouka. A bunch of friends doing the stupid shit we all did when we were teen > A bunch of friends getting super invested in cringeworthy "mysteries" as if they mattered at all.

>>142679966
>>142679161
ADHD fags in charge of shit taste as usual, I see

>>142680044
I don't get why opinions upsets you so much.

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>>142680044
>liking hyouzzz
>calling others for their taste
the irony

>>142680115
>>142679966
>>142679161
Why do people say it's boring? What are you guys watching it for the plot?

>>142680075
Why does his opinion about your opinion upset you, Anon?

Hyouka has zero humour, it's not fun or even "fun".

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What is this type called?

>>142680191
It's a girl
of anime variety

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>>142680115
Don't insult best girl by putting her next to your shit opinions

>>142680139
Houtarou didn't accidentally bump into Chitanda and fall on her breasts within the first 5 minutes.

>>142680041
>doing the stupid shit we all did when we were teens.
I'm sure you and your fatass friends spent your teens acting like cute 2D girls, eating cake and forming a band to not play any instruments ever.

>>142680243
It's Kyoani there is no lewd. It's different.

>>142680265
>I'm sure you and your fatass friends spent your teens acting like cute 2D girls, eating cake and forming a band to not play any instruments ever.
That's true for me for the most part. The only difference is that I had no friends.

>>142680265
>acting like cute 2D girls
We weren't cute girls,2D or musicians, but we hung around and made dumb jokes the same way.

Thank you based Kyo-ZZzzzzzzzzz

>>142680212
ah the ol' vagina type

>>142677881
Literally worse than Shitdom world.

When will they surpass Hyouka?
Hibike and Tamako Love Story are the closest to its level but still so far.
Will it be Koe no Katachi? Violet Evergarden?

>>142680425
Nothing would more boring than Hyouka.

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>>142680425
VEG looks like Hyouka killer

>>142677881
A good show to watch before sleep.

>>142680176
He's not the one throwing around insults.

>>142680583
You're both throwing insults 2bh

Ahh, time to post in the daily Kyoani thr-ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZ

Nice meme thread with meme posts, memers.

>>142680666
You'll notice that OP did not invite these people. They spammed all on their own.

>>142680322
I think you would enjoy Nichibros. It's about a group of teens hanging out and making stupid jokes, but the comedy is great.
Anyway the point of Hyuoka is absolutely different, it's not supposed to remind you of you and your group of friends. It's about this bunch of disfunctional people getting to hang out for the sake of solving trivial mysteries and how the characters interact with each other.

>>142677881
I want to rewatch Hyouka all the time but I'm afraid that it would get stale, so I try to keep it to once per year.

>>142680606
That's wrong though

>>142680583
>I come on 4chan to discuss my opinions in a calm and civilised manner. I shouldn't be insulted for them!
ok

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>>142680942
I rewatched it 13 times this year. Maybe it's time to stop.

>>142681200
Chitanda butt.

>>142681200
Any new little details you notice on so many rewatches?

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Reminder that Hyouka Novel 5 and the latest short story have been translated.

New novel (Vol.6) out in november.
https://twitter.com/honobu_yonezawa/status/731474464580374528

Hyouka live action in production.

>>142681274
Lots, each re-watch reveals new details about the characters albeit subtly.

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>>142681274
I don't need to read subs anymore. Guess there's a reason why dubfags exist cuz this series has so many things going on when they're talking

>>142681304
Thanks.

>>142681171
That's not the point though.
You can assume that someone calling everyone who disagrees stupid is more upset than the guy asking said person why he is upset.
So if you want to be overly insulting at least be prepared that someone calls you out on your butthurt.

>>142680041
I think teens getting invested in things that don't matter is very realistic

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>>142681304
Is that the one about detective mayaka or is there a newer one?

>>142681304
Isn't this just the anthology?

>>142681448
Latest one is about Chitanda not inheriting the family business

>>142680044
>sleepin during exposition, exposition, exposition
Nah, that's the right thing to do.

>>142681587
Read about that one or is it after oreki finds her?

>>142681407
No you can't. The use of more volatile language does not neccesitate that the person is more upset any more than that you keep replying to this means that it's the most important thing in your life atm.

Stop it with the armchair psychoanalysis, please. 4chan serves a global audience, and the use of tone across said audience is not going to be consistent enough for you to be able to tell how the other person feels.

>>142681634
Nope the story ends there.
It's just that story was published this year while the Mayaka one was from a few years ago.

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>>142681785
I actually read the mayaka one last so there goes my hopes being blown off.

>>142681559
It is the anthology of previously uncompiled works plus hopefully more. The last story (red bull gives you wings) ended on a very big cliffhanger that turns Chitanda's life upside down so hopefully theres more.

>>142681304
Wait, will we be able to get a Hyouka S2 soon?

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>>142682107
>Hibike S2, VEG, KnK, Haruhi S3, Hyouka S2
Is there anything Kyoani can't do?

>>142682537
Coppelia

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Dont let this thread die

>>142677881
Chitanda is one of the most beautiful girls in anime.

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>>142684397
Sometimes it's ok to move on, anon

>>142682537
Make decent shows

>>142687311
This, they can't make anything less than a masterpiece.

>>142677881
Surprised by how extremely comfy it was. I'm not even into these SoL anime, but Hyouka won me over pretty fast.

>>142677881
I watch it once a year and I always notice more details. Its fun and probably my favourite show.

>>142690194
Want to cuddle and watch it with me, fuccboi?

>>142690194
Now you really need to elaborate further.

>>142690232
Mainly small stuff about Orekis behaviour. He would probably end up as the protagonist of Welcome to the N.H.K if Chitanda wasn't there.

>>142690215
No, I'm not a dumb faggot. Fuck off back to /v/.

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What do you anons thing about the sudden change in Chitanda's circumstances?

Will this lead to full dependence on Oreki?

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>>142692257
The Henshin -emergence- route.

>>142692257
It will definitely bring both of them closer. Think about it. Before this change, she had no real desire of her own, accepting the duty that was entrusted to her from birth, and neither did Oreki, from his absurd level of listlessness.

Now that she has the freedom to do whatever she wants, if she does start pursuing something while remaining close to him, I can see it also bring out a deep desire on here of some kind. What would that be and how would it relate to Chitanda's remains to be seen.

One thing I'm still curious about, though, is if her dad said she WON'T inherit it or that she doesn't NEED inherit it. Because if it's the latter, she can still do it, just our of her own free will this time.

>>142692504
The what?

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>>142682537
Reminder that any anime titled KnK will be as good as Ufotable's KnK.

>>14269273
I do rmember oreki almost ragong upon finding out that chitanda wont inherit the farm. Maybe it has something to do with himself too at the end of vol4 when he imagined taking the business side and chitanda taking the science aide of things.

>>142694229
KnK > KnK > KnK > KnK

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I just want them to be together. ;_;

>>142694229
What the fuck did I just write? I thought I put a "never" somewhere in that sentence.

>>142677881
I still think that the School Festival arc was by far the best piece of writing ever featured in a Kyoani adaptation, and stands as proof of how good the source material was.

Also, Chitanda is fucking gorgeous,

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>>142695391
She is.

>>142695847
I want to lick her smooth feet

I remember the fanfiction was actually really good.

>>142697263
Which one? The one where it tells their future selves?

Why did Sensei get maaaaaad?

>>142698384
Why don't you ask EBA?

>>142697329
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10529576/1/The-Rain-is-Trying-to-Tell-me-Something

This is what I'm talking about.

>>142677881
The one show that made Kyoani's existence worthwhile in my eyes.

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Could Kumiko beat Chitanda?

>>142699908
Yup. This one was fucking great.

>>142700421
Not even in her dreams.

I want to fuck Chitanda.

Kyoani was one of the downfalls of anime, you otaku moefag trash. Take your love pillow and shove it down your throat until you choke to death and die.

>>142701760
ＴＲＩＧＧＥＲＥD

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>>142701760

>>142677881
what a huge waste of time. Then again what did I expect with KyoAni.

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I miss her.

>>142701760
Ya done goofd.

>>142677881
Literally can't tell the difference between any of their productions.

>>142677992
This is the first time I've seen someone praise both Haruhi and Hyouka together.

I tend to find if someone likes one, they dislike the other.

>>142702698
Die in a fire lelouch.

>>142702744
watch more anime

>>142703133
Anime is for nerds.

Juumonji Arc > Valentine's Day Episode > Sappy New Year > Finale episode > "Hotaro and Chitanda come up with a Mystery" episode > Mystery Movie Arc > Chitanda Uncle Mystery Arc > Hot Spring episode > "Hotaro interested in helicopter teacher" episode > "Chitanda hears teacher yelling" episode

>>142705999
Good list, but none of them are actually bad

>>142705999
juumonji was amazing but my personal favorite was the mystery movie arc

also
>Hotaro interested in helicopter teacher
kek

Chitanda is love.
Chitanda is life.

>>142703133
Kyoani doesn't make anime, they're a processing plant for public water.

>>142706222
>none of them are actually bad
agreed

>>142706648,197
I was expecting something more, I feel like it really started to pick up in the last half hour.

Also bye fags.

Dog.

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>>142677881
Thank you Kyoani

Pretty good desu

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>>142699908
>fanfiction
This is typical Hyokafags.
Why don't you fuck off to facebook or something.

>>142702746
What? They're both made amazing by giving a great director a great story.

I used to shitpost in Kyoani threads constantly. I watched K-On, Hyouka, and Haruhi, and I legitimately believe that they're some of the best the medium has to offer, much better than stuff I see praised constantly here, like LotGH, Yuasa shows, Eva, or Lain. The writing is as intricate and thought-out as the animation and visuals.

The shows are masterpieces in every single fucking respect of the word. Kyoani is legitimately keeping anime fresh. And so, I wanted to apologize. I'm sorry for not recognizing how amazing Kyoani is, and I'm sorry for perpetuating this retarded anti-kyoani culture out of some sort of inferiority complex. I've never felt more alive with anime than with Kyoani's works. Again, I'm sorry.

>>142702380
I miss Chitanda.

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>>142711744
Mah nigga.

>>142680022
Ruru is pure sex.

>>142680425
>Will it be Koe no Katachi? Violet Evergarden?
KnK if they change the ending or only cover the first half of the story and avoid it. VE if it's half as good as they say, and give it the Hyouka treatment in terms of production.

>>142711744
Wow, that's really cool of you. Don't worry, anon, I forgive you.

>>142692735
>>142694376
They are getting closer and closer.

Also, the ending of the latest short story makes me curious of what would happen on the bus back to the event place.

Guys I need you to be real with me right now. How good are the Hyouka novels? Like in comparison to the anime. I know the anime is better, obviously, but like what's the delta?

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>>142716322
The novels are a good complement to the anime and provide more depth to the characters.

Prepare for a slightly different viewpoint because most of the time you are reading Oreki's thoughts.

>>142677992
>Nichijou
I don't get you guys. Watching it with /a/ was fun, but it is mostly mediocre all around.

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>>142677881
Kyouka is one of my favorite KyoAnis. Festival arc is fantastic and the ending is very satisfying.

>>142711744
Are you pasta? If not, then I will make you pasta.

>>142717611
Oh, please make me some, too! I'm so hungry.

>>142717434
I liked it a lot, comedy wise it had its moments but I watched it for the characters and comfy factor.

>mediocre all around
Certainly not OST and animation-wise, you couldn't be more wrong.

>>142677881
Overrated somniferkino.

>>142705999
"Hotaro interested in helicopter teacher" episode is one of the best m8

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>>142718895
It has the best character development but its kinda meh.

>>142705999
Valentine's >>> Juumonji > I Scream > Sappy > Movie > Book > Onsen > Made Up Mystery > Helicopter > Yelling > Finale >>> Pool

Some of those in the middle I'm not totally sure about, might be due for a rewatch, but Valentine's wins hands down. One of my favorite episode of anime of all time. The way that his crime of so callously hurting best is presented as if it were a murder mystery... Not only is breaking up the chocolate heart an obvious metaphor for the heart break she would go through if she found out, but it's also analogous to chopping up a corpse for easier disposal, etc. It's just so incredibly perfect. The whole point of Hyouka is that you're engaging with these characters while also being stimulated by pretty satisfying mystery plots, and this episode is in a league of its own in that regard. The marriage of the two is so much greater than the sum of its parts here.

Hyouka is probably like an 8/10 show, but Valentine's is a 10/10 ep for sure.

>>142716322
It depends on the quality of the translation. They are good stories but some of the translations are subpar and might take you out of it, if that kind of thing really bothers you.

>>142720773
That kind of thing definitely bothers me. Reading awkward prose is fucking torture. It's sorta okay with manga or even anime subs because it doesn't rely so entirely on the text. But a novel? I'm not sure I could handle it. They don't just have to be good at actual translation, they also have to have great English skills, proofreading skills, and probably have a decent handle on creative writing and poetry. No, I'm not sure I can handle a poorly translated novel.

>>142721583
Try this one
>http://mayakyaa.tumblr.com/post/90849261071/english-translation-of-the-hyouka-short-story
The english in this one did not bother me.

And
>https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Hyouka:Short_Story_4
is an improvement over that translator's previous Hyouka vol 5, personally I thought it could use a little more editing but ymmv. Both are stand alone short stories so the awkward prose torture should be over quickly.

>>142722343
Thanks for the tip friend /a/non.

>>142720537
Reading the novel version of the Valentine story, what wasn't really shown in the anime was that Mayaka was in on the whole thing from the beginning, which really kind of softened my impression of Satoshi's actions.

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>tfw Hyouka will never be licensed in the U.S.

>>142681350
I've become really good at moon to the point where I don't need subs at all on some shows. I'm excited to rewatch it since I've only seen it once and that was when I was pure shit at moon.

I really liked Hyouka when I first watched it, but when I rewatched it I honestly thought it was one of the greatest anime of all time. Actually, it might be the single greatest TV-only series. The effort, detail, and time money put into it vastly exceed even later KyoAni productions. I highly doubt KyoAni will ever exceed it, unless they find another source material as strong as Hyouka and put enough detail in.

Is their any chance they'll make a season 2, now that the sixth novel is coming out? Or at least an episode on the chitanda runs away short story?

>>142723303
Depends on how long they can stretch out vol 5. Historically Kyoani has never done OVA-type releases (ala Nekomonogatari Black) though.

>>142716070
>what would happen on the bus back to the event place.
That is, if she do take the bus

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>>142680001
Tamako Market was ok. Love Story on the other hand... damn.
This movie definitely needs more love, it also has gorgeous cinematography to boot

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>>142723046
>not learning Japanese and buying both cover version of the novels
>not learning Japanese to bully Yonezawa-sensei on twitter
You're fucking up senpai.

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>>142723839
What happens if she doesnt?
Do they fuck in the shed?

>>142723926

Nigger-san, I'm already studying Mandarin and for a job certification test. I can only do so much at once.

Chitanda has the cutest little butt.

>>142726566
>little

>>142727034
Yes.

>>142680425
>surpassing the best fucking anime this world has ever fucking seen
That's not gonna work

>>142726497
>Studying Chink shit instead of glorious moon runes
Enjoy having to work with Chinese dogs instead of kind Japanese people, and enjoy not reading, watching and playing all that sweet Japanese media.

>>142680425
Hibike is far from being close to Hyouka's level.

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This show is so good.

>>142730455
To be fair all the best arcs of Hyouka were in the second half.

>>142720537
Good lord, finally someone who understands me. I will never get why the finale of the show gets so much praise. It is by far one of the weakest episodes of the show and puts into stark light one of the weakest elements of the whole series.

>>142718254
>animation-wise
Yeah, it was animated beautifully, but that's about it.

>>142730455
Hibike is better than Hyouka.

>>142730736
Where did Chitanda get all those pictures?

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>>142677992

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>>142730805
She's just that curious.

Also she's rich.

>>142730777
Hot damn. I miss Chitanda, she's such a good girl.

>>142730777
>>142730890
KyoAni know that nape is the most sexual part of human body.
TYBKA

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>>142730694

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>>142730996
It's actually face > gestalt body shape > *

The nape is a transition area between body parts, and lets you see the curves of the body and how they connect.

>>142728423
That's dumb because shit loads of nip media gets translated into chink.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9W23Nkg_1Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz00Ievsa4c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBSz5Npj4Bs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEBWjHPL5cs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rbw9kteRVDs

>>142731028
>damage control: the trilogy

>>142731028
The episode has almost no interaction between Hotaru and Chitanda and the litte interaction they do have shows how little chemistry they have and how undeveloped their relationship is. The symbolic stuff is nice, but it doesn't really matter when the relationship behind it is so flimsy and uncompelling.

>>142731251
Flimsy and uncompelling according to who?

>>142731345
According to me, obviously. What kind of question is that?

>>142731366
Exactly, now move along with your wrong opinion.

>>142681304
>live action
why ruin something beautiful

>>142680425
they won't since KA has been losing its touch.
they became more high production values but less creative. they will never make something like nichijou or hyouka again.

>>142731465
Why did you reply to me if you have nothing to say?

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>>142701760
Watch western cartoon kid

>>142677881
Hyouka was fucking borZzzzzzzzz...

>>142731547
now that i think about it what was the last great kyoani anime? the tamako movie?

>>142702744
You must be a newfag

>>142731575
I know right.

>>142731477
For AKB and Johnny's

>>142731637
Hibike

>>142730735
Both are good

>>142731667
You should fuck back off to whatever shitty hugbox you came from.

>>142731681
oh right i didn't watch that
it just seemed like a k-on thing and that's not really my cup of tea

>>142731797
Putting your shit taste aside, Hibike is nothing like K-on.

>>142731797
K-ON is based on a 4koma manga (albeit KyoAni really improved on the source material). Hibike is based on a novel, just like Hyouka,

>>142731637

Having a loli-ish Chitanda clone was a plus, for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBw4YqgorLs

>>142731945
Tamako really should let her hair down more.

>>142731637
>the tamako movie
overrated, had exactly one good scene

>>142731681
unessecary yuribait

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>>142677881
>>142677992
> Sameface
> Shit taste

>They are people who unironically like and enjoy Hyouka despite being a boring SoL pretentious shit without any plot
Wew
Lads

>>142731740
You too

>142732092
Bait too weak, no (You) for you mister

>>142732046
It's not necessarily yuribait. Reina is certainly Kumiko's muse when it came to getting her to actually care about her performance. The relationship between the two is still incredibly important to the show itself, not just something included as an extra for 'bait' purposes.

>>142731425
racist

>>142732046
I like how you dismiss shows that are actually good with one liners, truly a work of baiting art.

>>142711744
I'm a newfag, when did Kyoani hate start?

>>142732104
I was actually trying to have a conversation with you. Clearly you only know how to parrot the opinions of others though, given your insistence that I attempt to gather some sort of authority before disagreeing with your copypasta.

>>142732234
Ever since they became the most sucessful studio in the past decade, but it's been receiving much more hate since Free.

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>>142732293
No point in having a conversation with someone who's opinion is inherently wrong.

>>142732342
Please, feel free to prove that your opinion on a piece of art is objectively correct. I'd like to see it.

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>>142732300
>most sucessful studio

>>142732397
Most successful late night anime studio that is. Ghibli is also dead anyway.

>>142731096
Enjoy reading bootleg copies with garbage translations and learning a skill that will land you in chick land.

And not nearly all of it gets TL'd. Learning nip is the only real answer.

>>142730735
Not even remotely close, unless you're a retarded yurifag who only cares about yuri shipping.

>>142732384
Do you side with Smugi that there can be no objective opinion for art? That masterpieces cannot exist because the only thing that matters is each individual's opinion on art?

>>142732459
I'm not him, just saying. Also how is that different from English translations?
Obviously not nearly all of it but vastly more than English. I'm sure most of all the popular shit gets chink TL's.

>>142731028
>over analyzing things: the wall

>you will never read A Corpse by Evening

>>142732300
And what's wrong about Free?

>>142732621
The point is that he bothered to learn a second language (chink). So I said that if he was going to learn a second language, he should have learned a good one.

>>142731637
I recently watched the Tamako movie, it was alright, but I wouldn't call it great.
Hibike was pretty good.

>>142732767
Hypocrites on /a/ don't like it when studios pander to the other sex.

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>>142732214
you're just butthurt because i'm spot on.

tamako was very conventional and average, except for that one great scene, the confession scene.
in hibike their relationship might have been important, but the way they portrayed it made it look more like yuri rather than what you said, friends being inspired by each other. it distracted from the core story. it's like they didn't believe in the script and felt the need to "spice it up" like this.

that being said, my main point is while they're good, they don't stand up to kyoani's best.

>>142732597
Opinions can't be objective from their very nature. But to say that means there are no masterpieces because of that is foolish. Everyone has their own personal masterpieces, and the way one makes that opinion more widely held or acceptable is by explaining to people why they hold that opinion. If your reasoning is sound and compelling, people who listen to you will begin to hold a higher opinion of that work and may relay that opinion to others. If it isn't they won't be convinced and will simply carry on.

>>142732785
Chinese is probably more useful desu.

>>142732515
The only people who would prefer Hyouka to Hibike are pretentious fedoratippers who somehow think Oreki is a compelling character.

>>142732913
Whatever you say /u/.

>>142732913
I like Hyouka more than Hibike overall but I like Hibike characters more since they have more depth to them and develop more. Out of all the characters in Hyouka Mayaka was the most interesting for me. Oreki development was very obvious from the beginning but I still enjoyed it.

I like Hyouka more because the mysteries were actually entertaining, the pacing and arc/episodic format was more to my liking and as far as art and animation goes it was just better.

Also to that retard complaining about Oreki/Chitanda relationship being underdeveloped is right, but that was the point of the last episode, Oreki just starts realizing he likes Chitanda, and she opens up more to him right there, their relationship was nothing more than acquaintances before the last episode. You're basically complaining about cheese being too cheesy.

>>142732887
Not if you're smart. Japan has a booming biotech industry and does lots of cool research in fields like aerospace. China is pure industry with no good academic institutes and you'll get stuck working with lying, theiving chinamen.

>>142732913
Nah, it's just people who care about good story telling and directing and don't care about gay girls.

>>142733129
>Hibike characters more since they have more depth to them and develop more
>that retard complaining about Oreki/Chitanda relationship being underdeveloped is right
Oh, so you think melodramatic screaming and crying is depth and characterization?

>>142732913
>pretentious fedoratippers
People will take this shitpost seriously.

>>142733129
>Also to that retard complaining about Oreki/Chitanda relationship being underdeveloped is right
I am that retard. Also, if you think someone is right, maybe instead of belittling them and calling them retarded you should just explain why you think it works.

But to actually counter your argument, the two knew each other for nearly a year. For their relationship to not progress past acquaintances in all that time seems silly to me, especially given that that's the entire show.

>>142732913
>fedoratippers

>>>/reddit/

>>142733205
Hibike has fantastic storytelling and directing.

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>>142733330
>the two knew each other for nearly a year. For their relationship to not progress past acquaintances in all that time seems silly to me

Don't know about you but it happened to me before. Being classmate with someone and start actually becoming friends with him much later when we get to sit closer to each other or find out we have something in common.

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Why do you have to fight? Hibike and Hyouka were both good.

>>142733534
They were in a club together that entire time. He helped her find out all that shit with her uncle. They spent plenty of time together.

>>142733642
Not everybody can be chill. I like them both and am glad Hibike is getting a sequel.

>>142733370
It has slightly above average story telling and really good directing. "Fantastic" is reversed for actual greatness, like Hyouka.

>>142733642
Hibike is good, Hyouka is great.

>>142733821
What's wrong with Hibike's storytelling?

>>142733129
>Hibike's characters have more depth

Literally how. Kumiko is just a watered down Oreki, Reina is a boring Chitanda, and the rest of the band are a bunch of bland drama whores.

>>142733689
Yet he knew nothing about Chitanda outside of school, they were barely even friends before episode 22.

>>142733935
This must be bait.

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Who smug here?

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POMF =3

>>142734144
This feels incredibly disturbing.

>>142733963
I mean, sure, that's not uncommon, but he knew her as a person. You don't necessarily need to know every aspect of person's life to know them.

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>>142734144
Fluffiest ED of our time

>>142733976
>Oreki
>Kumiko
The protagonists who are intent on achieving just enough to get by.

>Chitanda
>Reina
The strange girl who shows up and turns their world upside down.

The moment Kumiko meets up with Reina again she becomes a sputtering idiot. It's not long after she's completely sucking up to Reina, following her up romantic vistas and suddenly working her ass off.

When Oreki meets Chitanda he treats her exactly as his character should: As a nuisance he needs to dodge. It's over the course of the entire show that we see Oreki go from 'gray' to 'colored'. There's nice gradual development there instead of instant face-fucking and worshiping.

That's not even getting into Mayaka and Satoshi who are leagues better than any character in Hibike.


Hibike might have an overall better story as it has a strong focus on a single goal, but the characters in Hyouka outshine the ones in Hibike so hard.

If you want good characters, you go for Hyouka. If you want a nice story and to be nostalgic about band you go for Hibike.

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>>142733997
Why is this so erotic?

>>142734242
Kumiko doesn't start working her ass off until the very last few episodes when sensei roasts her and she realizes how Reina felt back in middle school.

>>142734307
Yuri vibe makes it sexy.

>>142734242
Their roles are sort of similar at the beginning but their personalities are completely different. And Reina and Kumiko have way more interesting personalities than Chitanda and Oreki. Mayaka and Satoshi are about as interesting as most of Hibike's cast.

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>You'll never have your personal comfort zone violated by a cute space invader
Why even live?

>>142732234
When something becomes popular, the hate begins.

I'd say post-Haruhi movie or around Free! was when it started becoming rampant

>>142730520
Man, I miss those threads.

>>142734525
>Reina and Kumiko have way more interesting personalities than Chitanda and Oreki

Hardcore opinion. Oreki's character development is objectively better than Kumiko's though.

>>142734144
Should I be aroused at this? I'm very aroused.

>>142735076
Not him and I don't agree with this statement. I like Hyouka more but Hibike characters are better.

>>142735160
Believe what you want I guess.

>>142735076
>objectively
There you go using that word again. But no, I don't believe it is. Oreki's development is obvious and there's really no question as far as where he will go from his starting point. In fact, the path he takes is really the only path there is for his character.
This isn't true of Kumiko. There's a significant question in the beginning as to what her relationship with music is and what it should be. There is certainly a chance that Kumko takes the path of Aoi and neglects band to focus on her studies.

>>142734144
>those subtle bounces
Every time

>>142735417
That's insane. Saying a character's development is 'obvious' is a cop out. This isn't some complex narrative or anything. Both Kumiko and Oreki's development is 'obvious', even the dumbest summer movie goer could tell you that.

Also it's been awhile since I watched Hibike but I'm almost certain Kumiko focusing on her studies was never as grand as an obstacle as you paint it out to be.

Also also, I'm of the strong opinion that it doesn't matter how 'obvious' something is (especially in stories such as these), it's how its handled, and in that case the relationship between Oreki and Chitanda is much more engaging and interesting than the relationship between Kumiko and Reina.

>>142735576
When I say "obvious" I don't mean tropey or cliche. I mean that there's no other path of development for the story. Oreki's starting point has only one conclusion because it's so absolute and clearly misguided. The only thing his character can do is realize that this is true.
Kumiko could potentially take a path in which music is simply a thing she likes to do instead of the main focus of her life. She also has the option to give it up entirely. These are both legitimate options and make sense for her character to take if circumstances were different.

Also I don't see how you find Oreki and Chitanda's relationship more compelling than Reina and Kumiko. Could you explain what you think makes their relationship more interesting?

>>142677881
Seen it 6 times. Favorite anime of all time just after Berserk (though this one more for the manga).

Had a slow start and i was even about to drop it at the third chapter but stayed on it and it payed in the end.

Will watch it again i don't know, maybe at the end of the year. Just love it.

>>142736501
>third chapter

It's third episode in English. It baffles me how you can have pretty solid English (for an internet message board at least) but not know that anime has episodes whereas manga has chapters.

>watching for the first time
>Chitanda smiles at him
>Air starts playing
>EoE flashbacks

She's pretty cute tho.

>>142726497
>Mandarin and for a job certification test.
as someone who deals with chinks through stock and various trade
please don't

you will seriously regret it

>>142736744

My english isn't perfect, yeah, i know, but you had to make a big deal about it.

What an asshole.

>>142737051
But why

>>142736744
It matters 0%

>>142736744
In spanish, episodes translates as episodes, but in latin america it's more sued the word "Capitulos", and the literal translation of capitulos in english is, you guess, chapters.

>>142737279
No one cares about spics.

>>142737170
Fucking learn it then you won't have to be corrected. The easiest way I can spot a Spanish speaker is when I see them use 'chapter' instead of episode. It's mind-boggling how often I see it. When I learned Spanish I made mistakes and when somebody pointed them out to me I thanked them, not call them an asshole.

>>142737180
I never really cared about stereotypes but one that i kept coming back to and believe so much so that I promised myself and to tell others to never negotiate let alone visit china

They truly are some of the worst human beings I have ever been around

I am speaking about mainland chinese they will try to scam you , abuse you in any way shape or form and do so as if it is a game. Westerners can't negotiate properly with the chinese because of this

trying not to get too political but I'll just say trump is very right in chinese abusing the west

>>142737051

I'm not learning Mandarin for a job. The certification is for something else.

>>142737377
How about the Taiwanese

>>142737541
Taiwan is much more westernized than china will possibly ever be

I never heard anything bad about taiwan

>>142716681
...whos far right?

>>142737733
The creepy occult club girl who's always alone because no one likes her

>>142737733
The fortune teller girl from the school festival arc, I think.

Cured my insomnia

>>142733997
Why is this allowed?

>>142733997
>that squish on Chitanda's right breast
Neat, Chitanda strong.

>>142731023
Thank you

>>142739066
I'll cure your shit taste with my dick if you know what I mean.

>>142732085
But I just finished watching it for the first time :^(
>OP here

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>>142732752
>YOU WILL NEVER GET TO READ A CORPSE BY EVENING

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>You'll never be able to handle the business side for Chitanda.

>>142695847
>>142696394
I want to lick her ice cream...............oh now i get it

So why was the title Hyouka? I get the anthology portion, but why the whole show as well?

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>>142733997
Holy shit, I can't contain this.

>>142744933
Probably a more interesting title than Kotenbu.

>>142730694
>>142731028
>>142731251
I would be totally fine with the final episode if it weren't the final episode. It's just really apparent that the story is unfinished and the finale tries to kind of wrap things up in this super abstract way where it can't really resolve the story with anything meaningful, so it just alludes to a bunch of possibilities.

I definitely get the point of the episode, but I don't think it was very compelling. Especially the really weird awkwardly tacked on "mystery" of that random dude who... did something, I don't even remember. I mean I guess the idea was to show to both Oreki and Chitanda that his skills are just as applicable to this world of weird politics that Chitanda must live in, showing that he could be valuable to her I guess as a husband or whatever as that dude implies. But that element of the story just felt super awkward.

I think I would have preferred a finale that had some satisfying mystery over a ton of development in the Oreki/Chitanda relationship, like maybe some lighter development. And I think that's in large part because I just don't find them to be super compelling as leads. Satoshi and Mayaka are far more interesting, and their Valentine's day ep was consequently far superior. I honestly think that Oreki and Chitanda are the weakest parts of the show. Oreki's character is super cliche, and Chitanda's character is pretty flat. She has exactly two things going on: she's super curious! in which capacity she exists solely as a foil to Oreki, and she's like important in the community, which only very subtly asserts itself over the course of the series and doesn't really become relevant until the very end. We don't really get to learn about that side of her at all outside of vague hints until the finale. And Oreki's character is really summed up by the cringe-worthy exposition at the very beginning of the first episode. It's as cliche as he is throughout the series.

>>142734144
I hate ED 1 but ED 2 is one of my all time favorites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfuWtQBAm28

>>142725019
I don't know. That's the interesting part isn't it?

>>142745238
Besides the fact that the last episode didn't really have a mystery, I thought it was good. We were finally shown that Oreki has blatant feelings for Chitanda through his little day dream right before responding to her about not being able to run a business very well. He was able to actually meet the elders of the Eru family as well, and they seemed to like him. Even though it lacked a bit on the character development side, we were shown a lot through little things, intentional or not. Chitanda brought a whole new level of productivity out in Oreki by getting him to do something that isn't necessary of him at all. Also, the entire time during the parade he was trying his hardest to see Chitanda more while keeping his composure.

>>142746088
I think it was a fine episode, just unsatisfying as a finale. If some continuation were ever to be produced like another season or a film (and I think I'm pretty safe in my assumption at this point that that won't happen) then the whole reason for my complaint more or less disappears.

>>142745238
>I think I would have preferred a finale that had some satisfying mystery over a ton of development in the Oreki/Chitanda relationship
>Thinking the mysteries were the focus of the show
The mysteries were the tool with which to bring out the character development. If you expected something different, then you missed the point of the show.

>>142746342
The mystery of that episode doesn't bring out character development at all. It's almost completely irrelevant and feels like a waste of time.

>>142746342
Of course I know that, that's the whole reason I liked the Valentine's Day episode so much. And I love that narrative device. My point is that the biggest flaw in the show is that Oreki and Chitanda just don't have that much character to develop. Oreki's character is mostly a pile of cliches (his most interesting point is probably in the movie arc when he gets taken for a ride by whatsername) and Chitanda is never really developed in any meaningful way until probably sappy new year. I think if the Hyouka arc had done a better job of actually developing her then I could have been invested in her character.

>>142746485
>mystery was useless
>made Chitanda and Oreki interact a lot more and outside of the school context
You don't know what "useless" mean

>>142746533
>Oreki and Chitanda just don't have that much character to develop
Watch the show.

>>142746485
>>142746570
If you're referring to the final episode then I think the point of the mystery there was to show that Oreki could help Chitanda with those aspects of her life. Though I agree that it felt pretty tacked on.

>>142746624
Describe Oreki's character.

>>142746570
They barely interact in that episode. He talks to her one time before and then they talk about the mystery after and then there's the confession scene. The mystery could have and should have actually been about them.

>>142746663
What do you mean?

>>142746731
Watch the show.

>>142746938
Please, tell me how Oreki asking Chitanda whether they can walk through a specific area and then the two of them flatly discussing the mystery significantly develops their relationship.

>>142747090
Holy shit you gotta be kidding me. This why Hibikeks will never get Hyouka.

>>142746938
I mean describe his character. Here's how I would describe him:

An unmotivated high school guy who does just enough to get by and doesn't have many friends with a pretty cynical outlook on life. He meets a genki classmate of his who pushes him to utilize his hidden talents and shows him how interesting his life can be by pushing him to be more engaged. His character arc is the process of coming around to her way of thinking by losing some of his cynicism and also gradually accepting a romantic interest in this girl. By the end of the show he has a more positive outlook on life and is a more well-rounded person.

See what I mean?

>>142747273
Throw yourself of a bridge. If you can't explain yourself, fuck off.

>>142746304
To be honest I'd probably be fine with an OVA or two where they go heavy into the relationships and character development through a mystery.

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>>142747090
To begin with, it makes them interact outside of school. Before now, the only paradigm of their relationships was "schoolmates enjoying club activities", because, until now, all of the mysteries were related to school. Now they are interacting in a paradigm as somewhat close friends, in a mystery that, albeit insignificant in comparison to the others, it's huge because of that, the rupture of the paradigm, which opens their relationship a lot more.

>>142747340
>pretty cynical outlook on life.
First mistake. He doesn't have a cynical outlook on life. It never was established anything close to that. He isn't your regular 8man whose viewpoint is, admittedly, "trying is the first step towards failure". He doesn't try hard enough not because he think he's meaningless but because he doesn't see as an obligation. When he does see something as an obligation, sometimes because nobody other than himself think of it as such (pic related.)

>everything else
That's an amazing job you did of grossly simplifying the slow and steady character growth them both went through.

Watch the show.

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>>142745333
>I hate ED 1
Are you perchance a faggot?

>>142748033
>Watch the show.
This

>>142748033
Does opening up the relationship really develop it that much though? What do the two learn about each other other than a few facts about their lives? It that really acceptable as the conclusion of the series? Does developing the relationship in this very specific way justify separating the members of this relationship for nearly half the episode?

>>142748033
>Watch the show.
I fucking loved Hyouka, but you're a delusional fanboy to the worst degree. You're the reason everybody hates Hyouka fans. You think that Hyouka was perfect in all ways even though it has totally obvious flaws. Kill yourself.

>>142748584
And then there's this faggot.

>>142748564
They are in 1st year of HS ffs.

>>142748847
Oh, so should I just accept any show with relationship drama involving first year teenagers as being the pinnacle of anime then?

>>142748797
Thanks for illustrating my point.

>>142748584
>he doesn't agree with me so he is a fanboy
Before sperging out like a faggot, why don't you make valid criticisms instead of what you didn't like?