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Characters that will never use their power to its full potential.

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Characters that will never use their power to its full potential.
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>>142579949
Magic is one hell of a drug.
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>>142579949
Electromagnetic Gaara with legendary hacking abilitys and resistance to mind control and the power of a military grade railgun and electricity and I'm sure I'm forgetting other things. She should be able to dominate with any one of those alone but still gets handled by lesser opponents. She don't deserve her power. She's pathetic.
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>>142580471
I mean she is a girl what do you expect
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>>142579949
At least she knows what her power is.
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>>142580471
She only loses against higher tier enemies, like Accel and Touma.
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>>142580471

>#1 just reflects everything she throws at him
>#2 just shits out dark matter and would be invulnerable to her attacks like with the #4
>#4 would defeat her if she went all out
>#5 has no combat ability
>#7 is just a straight up ass kicker who would manhandle her

She's not even worth talking about among her peers.
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>>142581079
If she used her power properly she could defeat her peers no problem.
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>>142580071
If anything that is far above her full potential
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>>142581193

If any of them used their powers properly they'd still be leagues ahead of her, especially the #7.
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>Electricity based ability
>Cannot speed blitz
>No gigantic thunder attack
>No lightning spear attacks

Why is she given this power again? She's boring as fuck with muhh railgun
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>>142581193
How? Mugino and Misaki of course but Accel and Kakine are immune to her powers and Gunha survived a blow from her almost level 6 form, there is no way Misaka could defeat them
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I know it's a joke, but it kind of annoyed me that she didn't know how big Misaki's boobs were. With her super vision and supercomputer brain she should have been able to calculate their volume just by looking at them.
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>>142579949
Every anime character ever. Authors everywhere can't write for shit.
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>>142581268
>>142581242

The fact that she can use her power like Gaara alone is legendary on top of everything else she can do. She can literally sand coffin someone if she was desperate and suffocate them even if they are invulnerable to massive pressure.
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>>142581268

>Cannot speed blitz
Only two Espers (maybe 3 if you count Gunha) in this entire series have any capability of speed-blitzing. Mikoto is not one of them. Why do people always assume electricty=Speed-blitz?

>No gigantic thunder attack
You mean like the one from Volume 1's Prologue? Or from Volume 3 on the Bridge?

>No lightning spear attacks
You mean like the ones she fires ALL THE FUCKING TIME?
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Who would win, Misaka or Magneto?
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>>142581418
Magneto would win a fight, Misaka would win overall because she'd gain a mentor.
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>>142581411
>Only two Espers (maybe 3 if you count Gunha) in this entire series have any capability of speed-blitzing. Mikoto is not one of them. Why do people always assume electricty=Speed-blitz?
Because everyone else literally does, even that Thor nigga is way faster than her.

>>No gigantic thunder attack
>You mean like the one from Volume 1's Prologue? Or from Volume 3 on the Bridge?
That's not big, I'm talking City destructive big.

>>No lightning spear attacks
>You mean like the ones she fires ALL THE FUCKING TIME?
Name a single time where she's thrown anything like this?
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Even Pikachu would beat Misaka
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>>142581587
What. Mikoto would murder Pikachu.
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>>142581565
>That's not big, I'm talking City destructive big.
Why would she use an attack that kills everyone around her when she is trying to protect the city?
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>>142581629
She wouldn't kill something that cute
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>>142581565
Frying all the electronics and defence mechanisms of AC is not destructive enough?
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Hei x Mikoto OTP
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>Can influence the minds of humans with unlimited range and through indirect means such as writing.
>Could control the entire world with this one ability.
>Has seven other abilities.
>Doesn't bother because doing so won't help reveal the secret of the universe's origin.
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>>142581565
>Because everyone else literally does, even that Thor nigga is way faster than her.
Everyone else is a normal human being and Thor is a battle-crazed magician who can literally move the world to put himself in an optimal position. He lives for fighting. Of course, he'd be faster than average.

>That's not big, I'm talking City destructive big.
Can 5 billion Volts even pull that off? I have my doubts. Besides, what reason would she have to pull city-destructive level feats?

>Name a single time where she's thrown anything like this?
This ain't Negima, dumbass. She isn't just going to magic lightning into the shape of a spear. That isn't how electricity works.
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>>142581404
Too bad Mikoto would never use her power like this.
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>>142581662
I'm saying she should have an electric attack that destructive in her arsenal if she's meant to be the best of the best electric esper in the series.
She don't gotta use it then.
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>>142581629
Nope, Pikachu beat Regice and Latios.
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>>142581750
Even if she did, the people who she would use it against would either find some way to break through it or would be moving too quickly for her to encompass.
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>>142581565
>Name a single time where she's thrown anything like this?

Not the guy you're arguing with, but her standard electrical attacks (i.e. the ones she throws at Touma during their scuffles) are explicitly described as "lightning spears".

That's just a quirk of Kamachi's writing and probably not at all what you have in mind.
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>ILLUSION
which one is the real me?!
>TIMU
*appears behind you
yare yare onii-chan
>SWORD
*cuts you into ribbon
who's the kaiju now?
>ERASA
not even one molecule will be left!
>CREATA
and now a new nicer onii-chan appears
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>>142581789
Then how can you tell she doesn't have an attack like that if she had no opportunity to use it yet?
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The one and only.
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>>142581819
>her standard electrical attacks (i.e. the ones she throws at Touma during their scuffles) are explicitly described as "lightning spears"

Hence the reason why I said she fires them all the time.
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>>142581750
She could even theoretically use that power to make an armor around herself and use the electricity to harden and propel it to make her extremely fast and strong. There is literally soo much potential she's not using.
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>city can build a cyborg slut that can use all the level 5 powers on top of copying anyone's esper powers within a certain range and follows orders willingly

Why even bother with level 5s past the #2? They're just getting in the way.
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>>142581565
>Because everyone else literally does
Besides saints, saint-tier magicians, angels and Magic Gods, Who else can?
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>>142579949

A boy falls in love with a clone.

Unable to confess, he is gifted by a deus ex machina with the clone's phone number. Never minding the strange area code, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to the doppelganger, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she doesn't exist in this universe at all. She is the girl's alternate universe counterpart, who has fallen in love with Accel's own AU self, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.

Hijinks ensue as the two strike up a deal to give each other their darkest, most private secrets in order to equip the other with the weapons they need to conquer the heart of their other selves. While the two chase their respective loved ones, DRAMA ensues as they begin to fall in love with each other instead and question the NATURE of VECTORS.
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>>142581961
>A boy falls in love with a clone.
I really want this to happen somewhere somehow.
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>>142581995
Are you implying Super Hamazura is not a magic god?
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>>142579949
Honestly, there are a lot of people in Raildex who could use their powers better than they are.

Weirdly enough, this is actually a plot point with Touma. Touma sucks so hard at using his Imagine Breaker for its actual purpose -- as in, more than just beating down magicians who live their lives incorrectly -- that the magic gods who created IB subconsciously created another power called "World Rejector" and placed it into the right hand of another high school boy who's best described as an anti-Touma.
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>>142581741
When i said everyone else i meant every other electric user in anime or manga uses that ability to boost their boost their speed.

She don't gotta have a reason just saying that should be the standard of a "top tier" electric user.


Yeah i know it's not negima I'm just showing she ain't thrown no spears and if we are talking logic how was she not able to practically cause severe damage to Touma despite shocking him several times?
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>>142581844
Because the level 5.3 misaka didn't even do that.
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>>142579949
why doesent mikoto just autocast a thundercloud above her at all times and if she wants to take out anyone have a lightning bolt just strike the person? unless their accelerator or someone from the magic side thats at saint/magic god/touMAN , the chance of seeing or take that and keep standing it coming is next to 0. i mean a lightning strike moves at 220,000,000 miles per hour which is 1/3 the speed of light. Literally impossible to see that coming unless you have precog(cough touMAN) or read minds, and reading minds clearly does not work on her
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>>142581916
That would be legendary.
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This is only because she's a dumb moralfag who will help people who tried killing her and saving her loved one seconds ago.

I wish there was a esper who could steal abilities and rob this slut.
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>>142582036

Friendly reminder that Hamazura is secretly a level 6, unknown to everyone. His esper ability is luck.

S3 never, the shitposting over his luck would be magnificent.
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>>142581565
Fast Thor is not Thunder God Thor so that really doesn't count. Even then he himself isn't really that fast, it's technically the world that's actually moving.
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>>142582035
Evangelion.
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>>142581916
Not to mention this would in turn give Mikoto the ability to fly.
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>>142579949
>Mikoto
>full power

By scientific logic, any electric user would be able to create a quasar at its full potential
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>>142582169
>worst bitch in the city is inlove with him

his luck is √-999
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>>142582041
Except the Magic Gods are all Toumafags, and the only reason World Rejector ever happened is because they doubted him for a bit if he'll be their boy after he decided to save Othinus
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>>142582168
>I wish there was a esper who could steal abilities and rob this slut.

Rensa? Though hers would be more "copying" than "stealing".
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>Misaka will never pull off a chain reaction electricity attack on a rainy day against her opponents
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>>142582232

>worst bitch in the city is in love with him

Are you talking shit about Mugino? She's top tier. She just needed a little calming down with her yandere tendencies.
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>>142582169
It would be one glorious why don't they shoot him thread
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>>142582217
She'd praticly be a thunder goddess raining down thunder and steel from the sky.
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Even Accelerator doesn't use his power to its full potential. There's near limitless things he could do if he was creative since it could be applied it to just about everything.
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>>142581961
FINDS
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>>142582055
>When i said everyone else i meant every other electric user in anime or manga uses that ability to boost their boost their speed.

So because every other series has it, this series must have it by default. Literally what did you not get in the fact that Mikoto is a regular 14 year old girl with the ability to produce 5 GV? That is it. She cannot use this to speed blitz. If you can tell me how that can be used to speed blitz (and do it without crashing her into a wall), by all means. Speak.

>She don't gotta have a reason just saying that should be the standard of a "top tier" electric user.

The top-tier in her verse. HER VERSE. Not the fucking union of all anime-verses. Her verse.

There is literally only one known electricity user who can compete with that and that's Thor.

>Yeah i know it's not negima I'm just showing she ain't thrown no spears and if we are talking logic how was she not able to practically cause severe damage to Touma despite shocking him several times?

Because Ohm's Law and subconsciously holding back.

She cannot throw literal spears made of lightning. End of story.
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>>142582168
>>142582289

Rensa doesn't copy the level 5 powers, she comes equipped with them from the start. But she can't go all out with Mikoto's powers because she's a cyborg.
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>>142582302
she top ti--- did you not read WW3 arc? she was literally walking cancer that shouldve just casted her meltdowner into her brain and ended her pitiful life. hazama should just fuck saiai shes literally best NT girl
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>>142581961
Threadly reminder that you should stop posting that because it's a thing.

https://www.fictionpress.com/s/3206139/1/
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>>142582289
Yeah i mean someone like chrollo who actually takes the ability off the user.
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>>142582169
Touma has the most luck.
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>>142582411

Did you stop reading the series at WW3? She prevented Accelerator from getting himself killed like an idiot, among other things. Mugino a best.
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>>142582316
Also her ability to construct weapons with her control of metals shards is under used. The weight of the weapon is supported through her power so theoretically she could wield weapons many times bigger than she is
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>>142581061
That is only because plot armor saves her most of the time
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>>142581961
>mods delete Keit-ai all day yesterday
>it's spreads even more
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>>142582445

Touma has imagine breaker though. Hamazura has nothing.
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>>142579949
Misaka's problem is that her powerset, while impressive, is still bound to and limited by physics. This makes her mid-tier at best in a world where the bigger fish in the pond (Othinus, Fiamma, Birdway, Aleister, anyone using Dark Matter, et al) can throw around magic that takes a steaming dump on the laws of physics themselves.
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>>142582355
I'm entirely sure accelerator should be able to reform matter and create black holes if he wanted.

Well, plasma is a start.
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>>142582436
That would be a Level 5 AIM stalker
But its never gonna happen since apparently Kamachi forgot about her, not she was an interesting character in the first place
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Still waiting for Mikoto to break. Break, little girl. Break.
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this motherfucker right here. he has so many skills and counters including PHYSICAL DAMAGE COUNTER,MAGIC DAMGE. he didnt even use his black beam of death. and he still manages to get his dumbass killed. jesus fuck
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She's boring because she always holds back and thus her attacks are shit.

Fuck misaka and the clones, till this day I'll never see the actual outcome of accels plasma bomb on the city and he'll never ever use it again.
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>>142581629
It takes only 10 Pikachus at a high altitude to cause a thunderstorm and most electric type pokemon can cause electrical storms doing basically nothing, electric pokemon are really powerful compared to Misaka as one electric type move Thunder is literally a lightning strike aimed directly as you.
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>>142582509

Just like Touma, Hamazura, and any other main.
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>>142582605
>Fuck misaka and the clones
If only.
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>>142582638
If the clones are only 2 months to three years old...does it still count as pedophilia? Because I prefer Worst and she's the youngest.
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We are never gonna see Sinbad use all his djinns at this rate.
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>>142582638
Which misaka clone would you fug?
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>>142582709
They're all going to the bin soon anyway so I doubt anyone cares
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>>142582750
Last Order
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>>142582750
I want to make babies with literally all of them
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Mikoto was outsmarted and nearly killed by Frenda who has no powers whatsoever. But that delicious plot armor kicked in and she was made to look good by taking on two more and barely winning.
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>>142582560
Pretty sure electrokinetics at master level can control the electricity inside your brain and instantly kill you by shutting it off though or permanently paralyze you by halting the electrical messages in your muscles and then there is a the electron bonds of molecules that take this shit to the next level.
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Reminder killua would destroy misaka and any saint in seconds.
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>>142582798
Winning with no damage beyond a couple of bruises. Mikoto has tons of plot armor
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>>142582605
railgun couldnt even hit him if she tried. accelerator can deflect force and redirect it around himself. he actually does this later in the series in a auto pilot passive sort of way for sound but it implies he could have had perfect defense pre injury
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>>142580471
All of that and she can't charge a battery.
WHAT
THE
FLYING
FUCK
KAMACHI
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>>142582619
Everybody knows touma and hama get by on plot armor and nobody says they are stronger than they are.
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>>142582709
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>>142582560
See

>>142580471
>>142581404
>>142581682
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>>142582217
>>142582316
>>142582494

She'd be okay if she used her power like a pro.
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>>142582827
>saint
Yh show me a HxH character that can fuck up a galaxy first.
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>>142582572
>sees a woman in a labcoat about to give Touma a deep mouth-to-mouth kiss
>grabs the nearest shooty things she can find and blows the woman to pieces

Sasuga Biribiri.
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>>142582836
She probably can but she didn't wanted to look like a joke again
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>>142581961
Accelerator falls in love with Mikoto.

Unable to confess, he is gifted by Kihara Amata with the Level 5's phone number. Never minding his strange grin, he immediately calls her, and is overjoyed to find out that she has a crush on him as well.

But, the next day, when he recounts the previous day's confessions to Tokiwadai's Ace, she only looks at him with a perplexed expression. After some investigation, he finds out that the girl he called is not the same girl he fell in love with. In fact, she isn't even human at all. She is one of the girl's 20000 clone counterparts, who has fallen in love with Touma, who too is blissfully unaware of her crush.

Hijinks ensue as Accelerator goes mad with anger and enters his darkest period, using his powers in order to massacre all the clones to conquer the heart of his beloved. While he chases the cheap copies, DRAMA ensues as he begins to fall in love with smallest clone instead and question the NATURE of VECTORS.
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>>142582856
Why didn't Kuroko just teleport _________
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Every powerlevel thread.
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>>142582798
>frenda about to wins
>oops i dropped my bomb trigger
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>>142582828
>why isn't the most popular heroine getting mutilated and killed?
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>>142582833
Accels power is literally telekinesis at its purest level which is the control of anything with your mind including the direction or movement of anything, most telekinetics in fiction are known to make people's attack reverse direction back at them you even this see this crap in Naruto, Accel is pure telekinesis limited to changing the direction and speed of things though.
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>>142582906
>Accelerator falls in love with Mikoto.
What are the chances?
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>>142582917

>Science side is literally just Accelerator, Kazakiri, Rensa, and Kakine

What went wrong?
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>>142582930
>meltdowner is about to obliterate Mikoto
>whoops I just conveniently tripped over
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>>142579949
What is sex with Misaka like?
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>>142582969
Kamachi reads too much occult books
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>>142582961
It kinda happened on Omega world, along with all the clones
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>>142582969
>Aiwass
>Crowley
>Best doge
>not Science
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>>142582969
>What went wrong?
What about best dog's legacy?
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>>142582866
Name one saint that can.
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>>142582983
Electrifying
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>>142582983
Electrifying
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>>142582589
>PHYSICAL DAMAGE COUNTER
That's the one thing he doesn't have. He Full counters magic and special abilities.
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>>142583037
>>142583048
What a shock
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>>142582983
Just like all the other sex I've had: fictional.
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>>142582917
>No Kamisato
>no dog
>no shit fake Kihara with all the bullshit she got last volume
>no ARTS Misaka
>no Necromancer girl
>no "Yeah yeah" guy with Accelerator-hurting mechas
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>>142581629
The average Pikachu probably. A well trained one like Red's from Special or even the anime one would beat her out. Hell, the one from Special has an output comparable to her almost level 6 form by itself.
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>>142582917
You probably wouldn't understand unless you read Morning Star.
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>>142583031
Also muh romance
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>>142583037
>>142583048
Buzz
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>>142583070

You should have expected such a static reponse.
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>>142582936
Stop pretending like they wouldn't fix up any real damage in an hour at frog doc's place. Mikoto rarely takes any hits even when she loses. They could get away with herbl being hurt.
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>>142582969
>Expecting Science to beat Magic I dont have to explain shit
Its the same thing in comics anon the magic beings are the most OP and unstoppable.
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>>142583116
Those making cliche puns should be charged
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>>142583075
Would Kamisato go on Magic, Science or Neutral?
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>>142583091
>the anime one

I would not use Ash's Pikachu in any powerlevel comparison. That thing can go toe-to-toe with Legendaries in one episode and then get its face kicked in by a starter fresh out of the lab in the next.
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>>142582961
100%
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>>142582385

>Hey this cyborg is pretty cool, she can use all these powers and is going to fight all the heroes who have conveniently gathered in one spot
>Oh no woops sorry no one told her that you can't copy Touma's imagine breaker, you lose!

Sasuga kamachi.
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>>142583159
Neutral.
He only really cares about his harem.
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>>142582961
>Accel
>love

Pick one
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>>142583031
>magic
>magic
>magic powered mech
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>>142583159
Neutral, below Hamazura with blue border
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>>142583167
>I would not use Ash's Pikachu in any powerlevel comparison. That thing can go toe-to-toe with Legendaries in one episode and then get its face kicked in by a starter fresh out of the lab in the next.

Which would make Ash's Pikachu an actual answer to the OP. I'm personally of the ilk that believes that Ash drains Pikachu's experience to replenish his youth.
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>>142583215
>implying
All Science
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>>142583159
I'd say whatever category Touma's in.

Or maybe just make a category unique for Touma and Kakeru that reads "Ordinary High School Boy You Can Find Anywhere".
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>>142582983
Deflowering her and the first 10 or so times you have sex she'd be extremely shy and submissive, she's a very romantic girl so it'd be like the physical, mental, and spiritual Union of two souls

Later in the relationship she'd be much more playful and sultry/teasing
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>>142583212
Explain why he hasn't hurt LO at all
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>>142583075
>Yeah yeah" guy with Accelerator-hurting mechas
Could Five Overs beat Coffins?
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>>142582917

>Rider Shiage is stronger than all those level 4s

Guess I have to go reread NT1.
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>>142582255
Being loved by a god in a Kamachi work isn't necessarily a good thing.
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>>142579949
As long as she uses her cuteness for my heart i'm alright
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>>142583291
Those Level 4 are just too easy
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>>142583297
Technically...she's less in love with Kyousuke and more in love with the concept of love but eh...details.
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>>142583284
Both can use esper powers, although the Yeh Yeh dude's ones seem to be a little stronger.
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Misaka electric shocks are weak as shit because they dont vaporize people. One of the biggest issues in fighting someone with electricity is the very fact their attacks can bypass your external durability and cook your insides thats why electricity as a form of torturing people because there is no external damage at all. Misaka could win all of her fights by just sending a current into her opponent that liquiffies their organs.
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>>142583291
He is basically a saint on a motorcycle
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>>142582041
>Anti-Touma
>Moralfag
>cares more for his harem than his own life
>Loves to give headpats to lolis
>Is never wrong
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>>142583388
They don't vaporize people because she doesn't want that to happen.
If she was as crazy as Mugino or Kakine her opponents wouldn't last long.
Frenda would've been toasted in 30 seconds.
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>>142583367
Five overs can't use esper powers, they replicate them
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>>142583388
It's a Japanese battle fiction, any fighter worth their salt probably has organs made of titanium.
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>>142583361
Considering she's consistently showing up in later volumes Kyousuke may be wrong, not that it changes how crazy she is.
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>>142583411
>Kamisato
>Moralfag
What about that time he tried making a snuff video then post it on the Internet?
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>>142583451
You're right.
Ye ye wins them.
A giant mecha with teleportation powers is pretty strong.
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>>142583002
How does Kamachi have time to read between shitting out all those novels and being involved in multiple other side projects
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>>142583457
Thats great anon until that electricity starts fucking with your heart and shuts it down instantly killing you, and if your heart isnt fucked up your brain will be on the otherhand..

You know what I always wondered? How in the fuck are these people reacting to these electric shocks are electricity is faster than the speed of sound.
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>>142583388
No need to feel that way anon. We all understand her true potential. We're just mad she will never have the brains to use it.

See
>>142582856
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>>142583474
He was either:
Going to stop before actually doing it
OR
Nigga was going crazy.

What about that time Touma accused him of murdering a little girl and putting her corpse in a furnace?
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>>142583510
Well he obviously also has time to play video games if Heavy Object is any indication.
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>>142583510
I wish I can shit out as much as he does
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>>142583566
>>142583510
Multi-threading is an old concept m8.
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>>142583474
What about that time Touma almost killed a loli with a power drill?
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>>142582845
plot armour is basically part of touma's power
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what happens, nothing?
obviously if misaka gets a shot in first hei couldnt block it
assuming they touch tho, i dont know enough about opposing electrical fields to understand what would happen
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>>142583566

>Volume 5
Ace Combat. No really, the designs and microwave weapon was ripped right out of AC.
>Volume 9
GTA.
>Volume 10
Probably some shit like Spec Ops: The Line
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>>142582969
Magic is just too full of bullshit. You can see Kamachi making world-threatening powers with SCIENCE in Heavy Object all the time, but they're never as basic magic in Raildex. Fuck magic.
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>>142583603
Where was this?
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Mikoto would give Touma a finger cattle-prod orgasm at least once

>"Idiots don't deserve pussy, idiots get PENETRATED like girls if they wanna cum"
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>>142583474
>>142583546
What about that time Touma kidnapped and dismembered a 12 year old girl?
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>if he hadn't yelled, could've split Freeza in half
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>>142579949
Does she shock your dick when she cums?
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>>142583457
Alternatively:
>get your organs destroyed
>spew a little bit/a lot of blood
>win anyway
>wake up in a hospital as good as ever.
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>>142583620
Someone post that one image.
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>>142583656

YAMERO
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>>142582906
>Accelerator falls in love with Mikoto.

Hell no, Estelle x Accel or nothing
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>>142581961
MODS ARE ASLEEP, POST KEIT-AI

inb4 ban
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>>142582255
>Ever doubting Touma
Magic gods had it coming to them.
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>>142583632
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>>142583531
Touma has some kind of weird precognition that lets him react to shit like Misaka's electricity before she fires. It isn't foolproof though; he can and has been speed-blitzed a bunch of times.
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>>142583730
It was part of his keikaku
Including getting shot seconds later
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>>142583620
Hei's power is a lot more broken but he never uses it.
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>>142583817
He didn't know much of it early on
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>>142582638
Kuroko pls go and stay goed.
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>>142583781

>Why don't they just shoot him?
>Someone actually does
>He gets up a couple hours later and beats up the loli and a trap on top of it
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>>142583028
But it hadn't any reference about something romantic, just that no sister would die anymore.
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>>142583544
Misaka is a good girl

She's not a killer
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>>142583916
Who's the most unredeemably bad raildex girl?
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>>142583817
what
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>>142583916
She thinks she killed Yuiitsu then had a magicgasm
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>>142583941

inb4 Mugino
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>>142582856
This is sad because underutilized power would likely even happen in real life if people had powers of some sort. It's like those people who play video games and never even learn half the moves available to them because they are to lazy to experiment with the buttons and that's just one example.
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>>142582881
Based Mikoto
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>>142579949
Mikoto has honestly done some of the most interesting stuff I've seen an electricity user do, like edit CC security camera footage on the fly.

It's something I'll actually give Kamachi props for.
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>>142583656
Or that time he grabbed a half-naked brown girl and made her red and hot?
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>>142583941
That little parasitic freeloading moeblob with endless hunger.
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>>142583656
>that time Touma sent an oldman to space against his will
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>>142583969
Is her bear supposed to be bandaged?
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>>142583961
80% of the time it's usually females who are guilty of this although a lot of guys do it as well.
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>>142582800
Oh, sure. But then you get into bullshit like Fiamma going "I win" or Terra going "My Body > Electricity, Fuck You" or even the High Priest outright ignoring getting electrocuted as he did in NT13. That's just how unfair magic is.
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>>142584040
>that time Touma didn't let an immortal loli try to kill herself and let her be imprisoned by Aleister to eat sperm cookies for all eternity
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>>142584093
Shutaura was taller.
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>>142584040
>that time a dog destroyed an asteroid with his drill that pierces the heavens
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>>142583951
Electricity is a side product, his (or rather, his sister's) real power is matter/molecular manipulation. Used to a full extent it caused a chunk of south america to disappear.
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>>142584188
Wasn't the Gate activating/being destroyed that ate South America?
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An example of a character that did use their power to its max potential.
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>>142582983
you need is latex.
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>>142584369
>All you need is latex
Fuck phone
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Could Lucy beat accelerator?
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>>142579949
Wrong Level 5, OP.
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>>142581961
>>142582906
MOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
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>>142584056
I just noticed that Mikoto's bear carries a patch Illuminati
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>>142582800
That is worthless compared to the magic side
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>>142579949
He should have trained one month more.
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>>142584468
The only thing you have to do to beat him is mess up his hair. He'd probably die of a heart attack.
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>>142584520
Moodfags pisses me off so much
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>>142584468

>can make and shape dark matter and shit to his liking
>all he does is make wings and some shitty ass beetles
>he gets hijacked and defeated by the most boring character in the series

Like pottery. The girl in the dress was right to abandon him.
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>>142584597
Some of the best DBZ writing ever.
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>>142584223
In connection with sister's power.
Every time gate or meteor fragment does anything in the show there's a contractor involved using or triggering it. They are passive and static otherwise.
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>>142582917

Why is Frenda so low? Her skirt is a black hole that can infinitely generate explosives and her CQC alone should put her above Touma.
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Electricity based abilities really are taken lightly in animes, realistically speaking a good electric shock would get pretty much anyone dead in a matter of seconds.
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>>142584944
Although "Chinese Electric Batman" drops people like wet sacks of shit when he zaps them.
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>>142584944
So would a gun.
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>>142583400

How does one stop him? He can't keep getting away with it.
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>>142585281
Do you even understand how electricity works? With 5 billion volts there's literally no wall or any kind of insulator that can protect you.
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>>142582983
Fried sex.
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>>142584944
Darker than black has electric powers used as mass murder devices. And also later on in the plot it's revealed that manipulating electrons allows much more than zapping people.
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How exactly does Mikasa controls her discharges? She manipulates the electric potential of certain points in space? Electricity doesn't behave like some sort of projectile, you can't just "throw" a lightning.
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>>142581549
>>142581418
>there will never be a well-written fanfiction about Magneto and his kouhai Misaka taking on the world that turned against espers
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>>142585014
>>142585687
Ah, that's true. Darker than black is a good example.
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>>142585469
But what happens if you have a wall that has both the properties of gum and rubber ?
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>>142579949
Soon anon. Nuit LITERALLY confirmed.

>She had not understood all of that massive system. She still had no way of comprehending those blank spots. But she was now certain that understanding that would take her to the next stage she hoped for. She had been wandering blindly through the desert, but now she knew where the closest oasis was. That sort of hope filled her chest.

>“The world is so large.”

>She spread her arms and looked up into the heavens.

>She almost seemed to be reciting the words.

>“I can see into the depths of the night sky.”

>The blessing of the stars awaited her.

>She even started to feel that she did not belong in this city of science.

>“There are no barriers! The possibilities are endless! There’s so much! There’s so much more for me!! So many clues to follow, so many heights to climb to, and so many summits to aim for!!”
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>>142585768
If it's not ntr, I'm not interested.

On the subject of electric users not using their full potential, Kaminari from Meme Academia fits perfectly.
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>>142585768

>more mikoto doujins
>even though frenda and a hot new character were involved in this arc
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>>142585697
Esper powers are literally magic. If her personal reality says she can do it, she can do it.
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>>142585697
She is the electricity and the electricity is her.
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>>142585826
Sorry, it's pure concentrated vanilla Kamikoto.
>>142585827
Sasuga Miko-chan
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>>142582917
didn't-read-the-ln-fag here, how does this even happen? Does the series go into full-on overdrive trying to one-up itself with each arc, introducing more and more powerful characters?

Is there any good that came out of doing this instead of doing character development on a smaller better established cast?

And while we're at it, what are some prime waifus I'm missing out on?
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>>142585800
>of gum and rubber
Forget rubber, let's take a better insulator: Mica.
The dielectric strength of Mica is about 5 MV/inch. An 1000 inch wall seems pretty impractical.
Now, if you consider a gum and rubber wall with Nen in it, well...
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Hiten is truly the only man for Mikoto.
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>>142584944
I recall Sister's arc, Touma resisted an immense electric energy from Mikoto towards him and his most dangerous injury was only being unconsciousand and even after beating the shit out of Accelerator as if nothing happen. Since that moment I knew about the exaggerated plotarmor around Touma. It was one of the most illogical things I've seen in anime, as if all this mass of energy was only a joke. Yes, I understand that you shouldn't ask for logic in fiction, but damn that was just ridiculous
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>>142586013
And they'd have a pet Pikachu.
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>>142585978

Read the box on the top right, it's not really like that.

>And while we're at it, what are some prime waifus I'm missing out on?

Pic related.
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>what are some prime waifus I'm missing out on?
Itsuwa is also really great.
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>>142586015
It was actually explained that although Misaka shocked him with a shitload of volts, she lowered the amps down to almost nothing so it didn't hurt him too badly, I'm pretty sure that was the explanation.
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Shiage-Luck Level 5 never
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>>142584858
She's only half decent at fighting.
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>>142585827
Only Mahaya can save us he's still probably never going to release his Zashiki Warashi porn though
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>>142585935
A kamikoto doujin is always good before going to sleep, I prefer the non-h vanilla, but this one is good too.
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>>142586224

I would offer my soul to Mahaya if he made a Rakko doujin.
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>>142586135
>lowered the amps down to almost nothing
If it was enough for him to lose consciousness, he should've been dead anyway. There's no way a discharge of this level wouldn't cause fibrillation or some kind of serious internal burn. Let alone rip his clothes or cause all this smoke.
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>>142586335
She's had her power all her life. She probably just knows the exact amount to use.
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>>142586335
It's science I don't have to explain shit. She actually knocked him out with like 1 billion volts in NT10 but he was fine afterwards.
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>>142586375
Or you can be reasonable and accept that it is scientifically inconsistent.
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>>142586335
>>142586378
Kamachi doesn't know a shit about science, what are you expected?
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>>142586335
>>142586378
People survive being struck by lightning all the time and usually they get knocked out.
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>>142586427
That's because lightning strikes are actually very short in duration, plus it's not like people just walk it off as if nothing happened.
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>>142581916
this reminds me of the raildex fanfiction i wrote
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>>142586542
There is cases of people doing just that.
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>>142586427
There's a difference between being struck by a bolt of lightning and being struck by a city's energy consumption for a month
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>>142586555
She could probably make some good use of mercury if she decided to start using it as a weapon.
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>>142586597
Direct hits are pretty rare, and people who get away without any kind of injury is even rarer. Still, Touma wasn't hit by a lightning, and 1 billion volts is much more than any lightning will ever produce.
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>>142586764
All I know is she uses it all the time so I'm pretty sure she would understand it better than normal people would.
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>>142583656
What about that time Touma almost punched a pregnant woman?
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>>142586013
Everybody here is too young for Inuyasha.
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>>142585768
Aspergillus best Mikoto
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>>142579949
She's basically a cute schoolgirl version of Magneto. Except she has none of his trauma and only a fraction of his motivation. She could probably do all the things he could, but she never will.
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>>142587297

>she never will

I dunno, she's currently teetering on the brink of insanity in the LN. She just needs to snap and half of what was posted in this thread will probably start happening.
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>>142582800
>saints move faster than she can think
>Fiamma wins to moment a fight starts
>terra is immune to whatever he wants
>wanting to harm vento means you lose
>Carissa basically unstoppable
>Angels aren't made of matter they are made of magic
>Thor is I win lite
>Magic gods are john cena powerful as in they never lose clean
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>>142587631
Terra would still lose, he can only be immune to one thing at a time and she could easily use something else as a projectile while also saturating the area in electricity.
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>>142587631

Carissa never should have fucking lost. She was making England great again and Kamachi had some washed up old faggot and muh imagine breaker win when they didn't deserve it.
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>>142581961
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>>142584520
You can't run away from it, Mio.
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>>142587631
See
>>142582856

If she used her powers in these ways she could probably beat any of them and you've got to think a lot of it depends on who initiates the attack.
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>>142586335
Hasn't it been confirmed that nothing can kill this bastard (and keep him dead) accept for suicide or another anomaly similar to him?
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>>142587817
What he said he was above esper powers. Ib stops iron sand despite the sand itself not being esper powers.
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>>142588008
Also surrounding herself in her armor made of particles of metal would give her the ability to fly which would be a huge bonus with her railgun and lightning ability.
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>>142588008
>If she used her powers in these ways she could probably beat any of them
Terra and some saints maybe, none of that would work on anyone else I listed.
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>>142584520
Mods are asleep, post Keit-ai.
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>>142588094
Everybody needs to breath anon. Unless they have super strength they aren't breaking out of that sand coffin ability. Accelerator wouldn't be able to get any momentum.
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>>142588039
Doesn't stop anything that's already left her influence like say, a large piece of metal.
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>>142588183
Even in the highly unlikely event that Accelerator couldn't break out of her sand, the guy carries around an oxygen tank for these very instances.
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>>142588323
What about if she created a storm with her metal shards thus making it almost impossible to see and blinding anybody without goggles? I'm sure that wouldn't hurt.
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>>142588323

I like that some characters actually consider their weaknesses and carry equipment with them for shitty situations, like what Saiai did against Stephanie.

If you're a shitter that only relies on their power you'll end up like Kakine.
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pluss running at sonic speed in a storm a metal shards doesn't seem like a great idea.
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>>142588183
Anon are you actually familiar with the characters I posted?
Fiamma, wins as soon as the fight begins because it is power to do so. Only IB and magic gods can say otherwise

In Vento's case if you have and ill will or desire to harm her you fall asleep or die depending on how strong the feeling is

Carissa is like a saint except several times stronger and with a sword that can cut through time and space

Thor can't be touched by anything and will never miss

Angels, would straight up be immune to anything she does

Magic gods, They are the most powerful things in this series. They are so powerful that one magic god could easily beat everything I listed above without even breaking a sweat.
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>>142588361
Misaka has a high versatility with her ability but it does come down raw power and magic bullshit factor. Espers higher than her will tear through it like a hot knife through butter and higher tier magicians will overwhelm her before she gets going if they are serious. She would mulch just about anybody else.
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>>142588435

> a sword that can cut through time and space

Gee I wonder how Touma, Misaka, or whoever the fuck goes against her plot armors their way through that one.
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Any time stop fag.
Why don't homura and the ginyu force own THE WORLD?
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>>142588520
To be fair, Imagine Breaker is far more bullshit.
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>>142588520
>whoever the fuck goes against her plot armors their way through that one.
I kid you not when I say that Touma and every man, woman, and child in England fought her at the same time.
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>>142588608
What if somebody broke her heart?
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>>142581061
> loses against higher tier
she was level 5.5
still lost to 0 and 5
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>>142588435
I really think the magic factor sort of ruins the series. Some of the abilitys mentioned here are just ridiculous and seem like they were written by two year olds. I just finished the first season of Railgun and loved it but now I know what I'm in store for in the future. (I'm not happy)
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>>142588932
The magic arcs are the best in the series
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>>142588779
5.02 if Gensei was to be believed, and even then it was stopped by dragons.
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>>142588959
How? All the regular characters wouldn't stand a chance against them and the regular characters are the ones I like. How on earth is it possibly going to be the "best"
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>>142588779
I'd say dragons bumped them up a little.
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>>142588995
Kamachi finds a way anon.
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>>142588932

>I just finished the first season of Railgun and loved it

You better start the second season immediately because it's infinitely better than the first.

>>142588995

Hamazura was made for people who think this way and he never directly fights against magic.
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>all these anime only fags who think Mikoto is hot shit when it's literally a plot point that she's useless gainst the higher tier magicians and can't help Touma
>all these edgy kids who want Mikoto to become a cold hearted ruthless killer
She wanted to save someone who was trying to kill her multiple times. Mikoto in her stable mental state would never ever try to kill or even seriously hurt anyone. The only times she's ever shot to kill where when she first met Accel and when Yuuitsu was about to kill Touma.
Mikoto is Touma-lite and always tries to save everyone.
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>>142589035
What does that even mean?
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>>142589061
Mikoto would be "hot shit" if it wasn't for these poorly written magic characters with stupid abilitys that seems like they were written by a two year old. If I wanted to see characters with stupid powers fight I'd watch DBZ!
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>>142588995
If your definition of regular characters is the railgun cast, you are pretty shit out of luck and might want to drop after railgun. It is literally a plot point that misaka is too weak to help Touma deal with the monsters that come after him on a daily.
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>>142589113
Fuck off, you clearly didn't even read the novels and are just fanwanking.
Mikoto neither has unlimited output nor a superhuman body and is limited by her morality. Her usefullness lies in her versatility, not in her firepower.
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>poor anime only guy doesn't know that magic is explained ridiculously great detail while science is the pulled out their ass "it just works" stuff.
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>>142588995
>>142589035
>>142589066

No one who is involved with magic or fights against it can be considered regular anyways. If you don't know Hamazura, a simple way to explain him would be taking imagine breaker away from Touma but making him more ruthless and able to kill people.

Just read volume 15, literally all it requires at minimum is watching the last episode and half of index 2 to understand and it's one of the best volumes in the series.
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It would help to consider that magic has been around for millennia while artificially created espers have been around for twenty years and they already have guys who can fight angels.
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>>142589158
I love the main cast! So just stop where I'm at and call it good basically?
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>>142589281

What he's describing isn't even close to where you're at. Just finish what you have left to watch and give volumes 14-15 a shot and see if you like it, then decide on your own.
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>>142589195
It's not my fault anon, I'm just getting into the series and decided to start with the Railgun anime as I'm many people before me have.
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>>142589266
>they already have guys who can fight angels.
>guys
what guys? Accel? That is one guy and he got his ass whooped by an angel that multitasking.
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>>142589281
Just watch the two Railgun seasons and read the Railgun manga and see for yourself after that.
Also
>main cast
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>>142589281
Calling it "good" wouldn't be the right word, half of Railgun anime is literal fanfiction added by Nagai.
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>>142589332
>I'm sure
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>>142589337
Kazakiri and Accel, yes.
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>>142589281
Stop after Railgun S. If you aren't interested in the the world outside of academy city by then you can just pick up the railgun manga. The light novel is really good though. Especially OT 15- 22. The fights are crazy but not DBZ level ridiculous most of the time and it shows that magic does take a good bit of work to use reliably. It also gives you fresh characters. Sometimes a little too often though.
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>>142589383
Probably going to stick to this plan.
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Thor picking up Misaka and powerleveling her and teaching her the arc fusion blades when?
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>>142579949
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>>142589281
>>142589346
I should also note, literally nobody in Railgun but Misaka and Touma are main cast. The only others that actually really show up at all are ITEM.
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>>142586015
Imagine Breaker warps reality to ensure Touma doesnt die thats why everyone that fights him suddenly becomes retarded and never uses pure physical force.
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>>142589427
That's honestly depressing.
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>>142589456
Railgun is Misaka's spinoff, what did you expect?
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>>142589415

Never, because Mikoto lusts after characters like Touma, Gunha, and Thor and it would conflict. If it does happen, at some point she would come to peace with her never getting Touma and stick with Thor instead.
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>>142589456
It shouldn't be, they were boring as all hell. I think you're going to be going into the series with the complete wrong mindset.
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>>142589439
Well some people can't beat Touma in a contest of street fighting (mainly people who dedicate their lives to magic or the few espers he's fought) or those that do blitz him have to deal with his back up. Now we have Touma on defense and whoever else on offense.
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>>142589427

Item is great. Kuroko and Uiharu's chapters literally put me to sleep, then came along Frenda to save that arc while dragging Saten with her.

They should have had a permanent place in Railgun, not them or Misaki who currently seems to be doing so.
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>>142589541
What's wrong with Misaki? I like her bantering attitude towards Mikoto and them being practically equals in power.
Kuroko and .co always felt like tagalong girls who didn't really have a dynamic with Mikoto.
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>>142589483
>boring as hell
I'm having a blast watching this anime?
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>>142589541
Considering Frenda's dead, Mugino is busy somehow not dying and Rikou is going through rehab at the current time, only Saiai can actually show up.
I'd rather she did too.
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>>142589611
I thought it was alright until I read the novels and found out just how dull it was in comparison, especially since back then was when vols 15-22 were getting translated.
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>>142589601

>What's wrong with Misaki?

I'm going to jump off a cliff if I have to read another scene of her sitting at a table drinking tea or eating something while dropping information. Their banter is nice but I'd rather she get off her ass and do it on the go.
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>>142587631
Well anon in our world an electrokinetic would be a god since they could screw with any form of technology, control your thoughts, and at the highest level rearrange molecules allowing them to transmute matter and at the subatomic level they can restructure the electron or orbits of atoms changing them entirely and can snap their fingers to reduce you to protons, neutrons and electrons by stopping the electromagnetic field your atoms generate, they could also become intangible by removing the electromagnetic field in their atoms this is the real reason matter can touch things without this field LITERALLY EVERYTHING WOULD BE PHASING THROUGH EVERYTHING like it a ghost,. There are studies that have shown screwing with earths magnetic field causes catatrophic natural disasters and may even influence the mental state of life of earth as well as high magnetic fields can REARRANGE THE THE PARTICLES IN YOUR BRAIN, this discovery has allowed scientist to finally figure out how to brainwash people by putting magnets to their brains and removing every memory of the ideas they hate this is not a meme THIS IS REAL.

However thats the limit of a electrokinetic really( and the Marvel character Magneto is an accurate representation of a full power electrokinetic). Magic users are nigh omnipotent at max level.

Now the magnetism abilities may allow electrokinetics to control your blood or the fluids in you via diamagnetic property of water, this also can literally make frogs levitate in midair once place under magnets as well. Ferromagnetic material is basically clay to them.
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>>142589611
It's mostly people being disappointed it isn't enough like the later Index novels or the manga. Railgun S1 is just half SoL with no overarching plot and HARUUE-SAN!
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>>142589679
Misaka doesn't have unlimited electrokinetic ability. She has an upper limit and a lower limit. Those limits are just wide enough for her to qualify as level 5. What you're describing is a potential level 6 Mikoto.
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>>142589689
Vento
>if you have the ill will or desire to harm him you fall asleep or die

This is the impression of the characters I'm getting from the "better version" minus all the characters I care about. If that's the norm here I'll stick to Railgin and Railgun S and be happy.
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>>142589807
Index isn't about raw powerlevels either. Most of the time it's all about working around them. It only sounds stupid because you don't know the context.
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>>142589850
>>142589869
Well I hope you're right because that's some shit I'd write in grade school.
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>>142589807

Fucked up my wording, I meant to say it's nowhere near as broken as it sounds.

Also this >>142589869. It's actually covered at the end of index 2 and she is defeated quite easily.
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>>142589113
The fundamental nature of magic is its ability to screw logic anon of course magical abilities will be OP. have you ever once noticed the most powerful beings in fictional universes are usually the magic users.

You have Wuya infact the Shen Gong Wu which one can literally create instant points between time and space(Golden Tiger Claws) are caused by some unexplained magic that also gives the xiaolin warriors their elemental powers as well.

In Fairly oddparents without Da Rules Fairies are nigh omnipotent gods who can destroy fucking universes and CREATE BEINGS MORE POWERFUL THAN THEM like what we saw in the Jimmy Timmy Power Hour where Cosmo and Wanda made Shirley who is more powerful than them, this is how logic bending fairies are they can literally do any illogical thing you can imagine.

In Disney you have Elsa that fucking freezes Scandinevea forever until the end of the movie and SHE CAN DO THIS ANYTIME SHE WANTS meaning Elsa could one day freeze the entire fucking planet, again magic doesnt obey logic it can do anything like make talking ice creatures or a infinite levitating snow cloud that follows something.

But thats western animation, anime magic users are by far the most hax powers in fictoin, I swear to god Touhou and Umineko characters are ludicrously broken.

Then in books magic users are supreme, you have the magic using Children of the Forest created the White Walkers who are immortal cryokinetic beings that can screw logic to the point where they can cause winters that last over centuries, and then theres the actual fucking MAGICAL GOD R'HOLLOR itself that can bring anyone back from death, ignite inflammable material like iron or steel defying chemistry, and know exactly whats gonna happen.


FACE IT MAGIC CANNOT BE BEATEN AT ALL.

Dont get started on capeshit verses magic superiority over science either.
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>>142589923
That's exactly why I don't like it. I'd much rather watch enimes battle it out with basic elemental abilitys and hand to hand while trying to outsmart each other and work around their weaknesses. That's why I'm not looking forward to reading this magic shit.
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Reminder that Aleister deems Mikoto expendable. If she croaks she'll just be replaced by a cyborg that has a foul mouth and ends their sentences with stars.
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>>142589989
I mean I even though Kurokos teleporting ability was a little too much when I first started the series but that's not even 1/1000 of what I'm in store for is it? I love Kuroko now btw.
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>>142589989
Eh, people never actually duke it out directly in Index and if they do it's usually not that relevant and one side usually gets btfo for charging in recklessly and being stupid.
It's all about getting behind some magicians plots and then destroying the source of their magics or something.

Yeah, railgun anime and manga is more suited for you.
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>>142589989
Most shonen averts this magic stuff by using spiritual energy as a mechaniism for causing supernatural reactions like chakra in Naruto or Nen in HxH. DBZ has actual magic and as we have seen its magic is nigh omnipotent based on the shit that the Dragon Nuts can do, Buus magic candy beam lols at power levels because its magic powers dont mean shit to it, then you have Buu himself who is a magical something from the very beginnings of the universe and is made of something that cannot be fully destroyed unless reduced to the subatomic level.
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>>142589989
Honestly the series is more or less this but taken to eleven. It's kind of like rock, paper, scissors but even after somebody has thrown "rock" and the other guy threw "paper," it doesn't necessarily means that the guy who threw paper wins. It means now the guy who is stuck with rock is going to have to kick, bite and scream his way to victory. Unless you run into the guy who can throw out "fuck you, I win."
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>>142590082

I started out sticking to Railgun too, but I got curious about Frenda's circumstances, read the LN and got hooked. The magic parts are nowhere near as awful or unreadable as some people make it out to be, even if it does get over the top at times. But then again so does the science side.
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>>142590096
Oh shit I forgot the biggest display of magic power in DBZ though its non canon the spiritual entity Janemba via demon magic did the following:
Remove any boundary between the living and the dead
Turn Hell into a acid trip zone
Slice Goku and Vegeta without his sword ever touching them
Create perfect replicas of Gokus attack
Portal attacking
His sword ignores your durability and actually fucks up your spacetime meaning its a metaphysical attack

The only thing that killed him was Gogeta's Stardust Breaker than is a magic attack that instantly annhilates what it touchs.
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>>142590082
Sounds pretty boring. It's almost like a detective show at that point. You're basically reading Death Note.
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I feel so sorry for science users they truely have no clue what they fight when they go against magic users. Also any competent magic user could beat Accel by turning his brain into water or making his thoughts go backwards.
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>>142589923
Index magic users, or magic users in Kamachi works in general, are limited by the history and meaning of the story they are using. This allows for a far greater power spectrum, but also keeps critical weaknesses included. Index got a bit away from the weaknesses as Imagine Breaker is an absolute, but Zashiki Warashi kept it in tone better with the Packages.
>>142590184
Nigga you better not be meaning to indirectly disrespect (tied for) best boy.
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>>142590082

>people never actually duke it out directly in index

If only it was that easy.
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>>142590259

You always say tied but with who?
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>>142590278
Who else but the other best boy? The young girls in ZW have top taste.
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>>142590262
Touma and Hamazura don't have any power so they avoid direct fights constantly.
Accel has so much power his enemies avoid direct conflict with him.
Index is pretty much a mystery novel packed into a shonen battle disguise.
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>>142590184
This is the best quote I've ever read on 4chan.
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>>142590330
First week?
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>>142590005
Nuit will save Misaka.
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>>142590308

It has absurd amounts of action for a mystery novel then. I didn't get that vibe from anything much outside of NT 7 with Tsuchimikado's chapter, but then again that volume ended with one of the most over the top parts of the series.
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>>142590425
Kamachi likes to blend mystery and action, mixed with a touch of comedy.
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>>142589281
>I like these characters so I cannot possibly like other characters
what
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Carissa
>sword that can cut through time and space

Kill me now..
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>>142590629
Swords or swordsmen that can cut through time and space are semi-frequent in Japanese fantasy it seems.
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Index Nt 16 announcement is out.

New thread here:
>>142590587
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Imagine if Kuroko used guns.
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>>142590629

Carissa is the most based character in the series and absolutely deserves her absurd power. It's too bad kamachi shafted her and made her lose anyways.
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>>142590629
At least the design of the Curtana looks good.
Hrunting and Ascalon just look ridiculous and stupid.
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>>142582836
>>142582899
That's not how batteries work.
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>>142590761

Carissa's sword.
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>>142590747
I think you misunderstood, I meant I was against anybody having a power like that. That's literally Inuyasha tier writing.
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>>142590730
She'd be awesome, even a sword.
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>>142590895
The only thing she does with that is cut up a few helicopters anyway.
It gets shattered when Touma gets catapulted towards it and breaks his wrist against it.
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>>142590895

As said above, a lot of these powers are more powerful on paper.
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>>142590995
She could literally do the edgelord psshhh nothing personal kid thing.
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>>142591012
I highly doubt that considering everyone only talks about how unbeatable every character with this so called "magic" is.
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>>142591158

Yeah well here we are with every last one of those characters utterly defeated.
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>>142591195
Any character that could never lose to Mikoto is considered overpowered.
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>>142590895
What's actually wrong with it though? Sure it sounds stupid but in practice all it really did was create huge blocks of stuff. It wasn't able to cut through "time and space" anyway, it was just the fourth spacial dimension.
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>>142590684
Why you had to do that when i was about to post tsundere dance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPXxLr6Lnmc
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The sad part is that the series as a whole is set up to wank the shit off of touma with his insane plot armor. All of the scientific powers exist only to show you how weak they are compared to the Ex machina that is magic. an undefined limit means you might as well be fighting god...

Touma on the other hand has the amazing ability to somehow cancel everything that doesn't fit into our worlds sense of normalcy regardless of the strength or power. It's a total powerwank for someone who isn't supposed to have powers
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Why doesnt Mikoto have better long range moves besides the railgun?

I think her fights would just be better if she carried a gun with iron bullets then used her electrokinesis to make the bullets shoot out faster than a regular gun heck Misaka could just carry steel bullets in packs start levitating them then accelerate them using her magnetic powers making her a living gun. Besides that electricity cannot be solified but its also really fucking fast and intangible meaning it should be impossible to actually block her attacks beyond HURR MAGIC or Accel's direction manipulation.
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>>142591294
>It's a total powerwank for someone who isn't supposed to have powers
Good thing he's not supposed to not have powers then, eh? That'd be Hamazura.
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>>142591337
Why would she ever use a gun? She has a railgun ability.
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>>142591341

If we ever get S3, everyone will forget about Touma when Hamazura appears anyways. The shitposting over him will still be taking place well into the royal family arc, even into fucking railgun if we get that far.
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>>142591337
That's like asking a gun user why they don't use a slingshot.
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>>142591294
Thats human science anon there probably aliens that have figured out how magic works in Indexverse because there must be some kind of logic system to magic at its base for it to exist, the base logic system for anything existing is well the absolute concept of cause and effect. The human scientist have already figured out how to make people control electrons, mold dark matter like clay, and even teleport and this is only a modern world imagine how stupidly powerful the espers in 300 years will be compared to these ones.

Magic users are just idiots using forces that they dont even understand besides the actual magical beings like that haxor Fiamma.
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>>142591337
>I think her fights would just be better if she carried a gun with iron bullets then used her electrokinesis to make the bullets shoot out faster than a regular gun heck Misaka could just carry steel bullets in packs start levitating them then accelerate them using her magnetic powers making her a living gun.
In one horrible run-on sentence, you've drawn the conclusion that the Railgun should use a Railgun instead of her Railgun.
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Electricity also works in two ways, static electricity completely ignores the insulation rule thats why you can get zap from rubber that was rubbed to create a static charge, Misaka's static abilities are clinging on wall buts thats just it, she could literally cause fucking lightning from manipulating the static charges in the air around her other all lightning isnt really an electric current its a flow of electrons going to a positively charged area thats why it is possible for there be lightning in fucking space but not current electricity that needs a medium to work. With static she could make people fly towards her or repel them away from her along with making their attacks literally become attracted to them causing all of their moves to blow up in their faces.

Im sad static is underused by electromanipulators in fiction its always current electricity that gets the coverage.
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>>142591337
Because she's a middle school girl, not some kinda psychopath assassin.
Why should she carry weapons with her?
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>>142591435
The problem is the ammo she uses. She needs to start carrying around something a little better than coins that disintegrate fast.
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>>142591544
A couple steel marbles would be far better.
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>>142591544
>coins
Anon a piece of metal moving at hypersonic velocities is gonna knock your head off from the sheer force of the blow and burst a hole through your body if it hits your torso.

Thanks to physics the easiest way to kill something is to hit with something really fast as the more kinetic energy matter gains the higher the impact. It should be impossible beyond HURR MAGIC to actually fight Misaka since if her coins hit you you are fucking dead bro.
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>>142591420
They should have just left magic out of railgun.
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>>142591602
There's no magic in Railgun. What the fuck are you on about?
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>>142591599
The problem is they disintegrate way to fast and give her a lack of range. It's just one of her shortcomings she could easily fix.
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>>142591544
>>142591565
The fact that they burn up quickly lets her avoid pointless collateral damage. If she needs something bigger, she can just grab a chunk of metal from wherever she's fighting. It's not like bits of metal are hard to come by in Academy City.
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>>142591616
You know exactly what I meant.
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>>142591637

Are you talking about Xochtil and Nuit? Because Xochtil didn't do anything and Nuit isn't technically magic.
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>>142591622
So shes needs a tungsten alloy to make good railgun bullets in that case?

Well she should just carry actual bullet them fire them at speeds that dont disentegrate them besides bullets are hard to dodge because there is no flashy crap and once you hear the sound its means the bullet has already long hit you.
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>>142591648

He's talking about the series as a whole
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>>142591649
I really don't think anybody would be dodging anything from a railgun anyways. They'd likely just have to tank the attack if it was shot at them before they were in motion.
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>>142591637
>Take out a major element from a series I didn't read and only watched the spinoff of
>Fuck everyone who likes the series for something different than I do
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>>142591625
>pointless collateral damage
>high hypersonic velocity metal projectil
Pick one

You dont seem too realize how powerful railguns really are they can blow holes through freaking cars meaning thats an alot of kinetic energy being released that gonna transfer into the air creating strong winds and whatever the coin hits if gonna break apart from the impact. The effect where her coin creates a depression in the ground as it travels. is pure horseshit though.
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>>142591649
She uses arcade coins because they're easy to get and inconspicuous.
She's not gonna break into a weapon storage to get bullets.
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>>142591684
Dodging a railgun is even more impossible because once you have heard the sound it means the projectile is already miles from your location.
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>>142591662
Still makes no sense, does he want no magic in a series with magic in the name?

>>142591728
This doesn't make sense either, you tell me that the railgun won't cause collateral damage then tell me how much damage a railgun can cause.
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>>142591763
It's not dodging the bullet itself that's the issue. Misaka still has completely normal human reflexes and they could just simply dodge her aim.
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>>142591718
If your idea of a good time is reading about overpowerd wizards fight each other than be my guest. Probably not even that because I guess that really don't even happen in the light novels. You're reading a detective book except the detectives have powers they don't make very good use of.
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>>142591812
>literally stop liking something I don't like
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>>142591728
Oh wait, I get what you were saying now. She can tell how far the coin is going to go so if she misses she's not going to put hole in someone's head on the other side of town. She'll still fuck up whatever she hits, but there's greater margin for error.
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>>142591812
It's literally a glorified version of Dr. Who. I would just stick with the anime series.
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>>142591773
The problem with magic in Index is that it's super imbalanced. Any halfway serious magic side player could easily beat the shit out of all million espers in Academy City other than the top two combined.
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>>142591812

It'd help if you actually read the series, especially the parts in question before forming an opinion on it.
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Science is wondering how lightning happens
Magic is using forces from outside the universe to cause lightning.. I see magic as the application of extradimensional physics that override regular physics and when applied in a certain way spell, charm, incantation, talisman, symbol it causes a supernatural effect in reality.

So magic users make deals with spirits to gain mystical powers that they have no clue how they really work they just know how to activate them thats all, the real science behind magic are the masterminds who actually made the very concept of spells possible in the first place.After all a human can just jump to the moon thats not allowed in our universe's logic system, in a magical world's logic system spells can cause effects meaning something made that possible but what?

In Index most of the British magic is caused by literally God himself so theres an answer for that.
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>>142591886
Everything after WWIII was shit.
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>>142591914
>NT9
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>>142591752

She could probably get better performance from hardware store supplies. Nails, handfuls of bolts, trowels, things like that are cheap, heavy, and plentiful. Nobody is going to question you for buying a buckets of nails and screws.
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>>142591914

>OTfags

NT is better as a whole than OT.
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>>142591927
NT9 would have been okay if the series ended there, instead of the series going on to demonstrates that 100 people 100 times as strong as Othinus were all killed off-screen overnight by a faggot and a dog.
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However some magical universes have shit that cant even be called magic like Umineko the two main witchs are basically gods what they are doing isnt magic its more like an absolute form of reality bending no not reality bending its more like their will overceding the concept of reality itself.
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>>142591864
Exactly, there should only be espers in the series. The whole magical God/angel shit is irritating. I hate the idea that no matter how hard any of my favorite characters try they will never stand a chance against them because "magic"
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>>142591951
NT is so powerful that it renders irrelevant everything in OT combined.

So yes, now that we learn that the plot of NT matters, and the plot of OT is just 22 novels of pointless distraction by irrelevant side characters, Old Testament does look pretty shit.
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>>142591928
What difference would it make if she shot you with a coin or a nail? Changing the projectile doesn't change the limited uses of the move itself. She barely uses the railgun anyway, only as a flashy finisher.
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>>142591864
Espers aren't soldiers. When the science side and magic side actually had a war, Crowley sent people using technology based on esper powers rather than espers themselves. The only espers he needed on the ground were the clones, the others just found their way there for their own purposes.

Why not just send Accel? Because Crowley doesn't want to beat magic using his own version of magic, he wants to win using actual technology.
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>>142591986
It would be one thing if magic users had about the same fighting ability as espers and they were sort of rivels but the way it's set up here is ridiculous.
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>>142592026
I mean hell, the magic users could have their very own city like academy city even and with that alone you could write some damn good story alone. The possibilities would be endless.
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>>142592026
The science side is run by a magician. Esper powers are just a shitty form of magic.
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>>142592059
Fucking hell. Academy City is clearly a fucking Vatican analog, are you an idiot?
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>>142592066
That's only because it's written that way. They could have written it as two entirely different ability types with special styles and advantages to both of them.
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>>142592099
>The story could just be a generic shounen
Woah
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>>142592086
What do you mean?
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>>142592059
Theres a problem though if magic was proven real in our world there would be millions of scientist trying to understand it right now because nothing makes scientist excited from a new unexplained part of reality that needs much investigation so there would be no divide between science or magic at all science would be the ones trying to figure out magic while magic has no idea whats going on. Science already figured out how to create angels though they are not as powerful as the real ones but the abiltity to create metaphysical entities would make scientist in our world drop dead from euphoria.
>>142592066
>Espers are magic
No Espers are a scientific way to give humans superpowers, also their name makese sense because the majority of powers like fire manipulation or earth manipulation are controlled by your mind meaning finding the science to have your mind create effects in reality can give human being superpowers.

The science behind Accel's powers would lead to invincible defense systems around the globe since nothing can get near them without being reflected.
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>>142592117
No, that could have gone into detail on it and created very good storyline without involving magical gods. The way you summed it up is basically how it is currently.
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>>142592123
Academy City is the science Vatican. It's a city-turned-country dedicated to Science. The Vatican is a city-turned-country dedicated to religion.
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>>142592160
What what the hell are you trying to prove?
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>>142591986
Well, my favorite character was already going to be a powerless character forever, no matter how hard she tried. At some point you just have to kick back and learn to love the irrelvance.

>>142592013
>Espers aren't soldiers.
That much is true. I suppose the thing that people keep forgetting is that all the espers in the world are just lab rats.

Once they perfect the FIVE_OVERs there really will be no use left for our test subjects.
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>>142592151
>they
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>>142592180
You asked why there wasn't a magic academy city when academy city is already a science vatican.
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>>142592221
>at some point you have to learn to kick back and enjoy the irrelevancy.

Isn't that what slice of life series are for?
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>>142591986
Powerlevels have fuck all to do with how good a character is.
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>>142592281
Except for they literally have almost zero control of anything with no power.
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>>142591986
Misaka is trying very hard alright. She's trying too hard in fact.
>>142582572
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>>142592257
No I didn't. I said if Magic users had a city of their own sort of like the espers it would make for some very good story, especially if the magic users weren't stupidly op.
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>>142592345
They have England and the Vatican
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Magic this, magic that who gives a fuck? It's not like the two sides are fighting 24/7, Touma handles the magic and some science while Accelerator and Hamazura are science with a little magic.

I only started reading this series because I was interested in the science part but the magic side holds its own and offers some of the best parts of the story too. Magic is by no means holding it back and you'd find out if you read it.
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Am I ever going to see Saten gain esper abilitys and kick ass? Just started season two.
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>>142592345
There are magicians that aren't as OP. Like these qts for example.
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>>142592409
If Frenda can be a level3 then Saten will too someday come season 3
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>>142592409
>Just started season two.
Oh boy you're in for a ride.
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>>142592409
It's sad watching her live around her friends with sweet abilitys.
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>>142592279
I'm actually someone who only started watching Railgun because I was promised 4girls adventures, and kind of got what I wanted, so...

>>142592281
They do affect relevance, though. The most complex, well-written characters ever written could live in the Indexverse but if they're powerless high school students with no plot relevance there's no point in having them in the story.
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>>142592409
No.
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>>142592449
>abilitys
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>>142592479

Never say never. Saten can obtain her dream of using esper abilities. All the level 5 powers, in fact. It just comes with a small price.
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>>142592479
My heart....
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>>142592511
Holy shit, I hope this is where Railgun's going with it's Rensa references.
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>>142592574
Don't worry too much, Saten does get some cool scenes later in S2. There's more to the world than just pure power.

That said, S2 is really going to take you for a ride you did not expect one fucking bit.
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>>142592603
Please don't tell me you though Saten piloting the mech cool. Everything about that fucking arc was trash.
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>>142592603
Hopefully. I'm excited but I'm at work now so It's on hold.
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>>142592632
thought* was*
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>>142592632
The last episode was pretty damn fun even if it was silly as fuck.
Dem chained insert songs.
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>>142592632

>He didn't think that Saten getting in the fucking robot was the crowning achievement of this series

Feel free to stop posting my dear anon.
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>>142592632
He wants Saten to get some cool scenes, she got some cool scenes. The arc was not great and her role was kind of forced, but at the end of day it's still not too much dumber than Hamazura getting into a power armor suit and kicking everyone's ass with it.
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>>142592678

But Hamazura is actually proficient with technology and has an AI assisting him, Saten learned how to pilot a mecha overnight from a manual. I'd say there's a great difference.
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>>142592706
>breaks into a military grade lock with his pickpocketing skills and gets the dragon rider
Hamazura is pretty bullshit too.
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>>142592706
Maybe that's her esper ability?
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>>142592736
Saten's power is just a shittier version of Kongou's power.
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>>142592730

Isn't breaking military grade locks something expected of him back when he was working under Mugino?
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Haruue has one of the best sounding names in all anime. Prove me wrong.
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FIVE_Over Accelerator when?
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>>142592783
I thought he was just responsible for driving them around and bringing them drinks.
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>>142592786
Uiharu pls go and stay go
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>>142592798

If that was the extent of his usefulness they wouldn't have let him in on their plans.
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>>142592730
He was second in command in a terrorist organisation, I'm pretty sure he's got some experience in doing criminal things.
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>>142592706
In order for a Level 0 to be relevant - and this includes Hamazura - they have to be covered in plot armor. It's already implausible that he was able to find the fucking Dragon Rider in the first place. You can probably justify anything if you try.

>>142592783
Wasn't there that one SS about Mars where a set of smart handcuffs completely fucks over the people using them? Actual Academy-City grade stuff seems like it'd be pretty bullshit.
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>>142592814
Common anon, just say her name. I don't even particularly like her that much her her name is just so fuffliling and nice to say.
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>>142592912
i actually forgot this wasn't a raildex thread

good job thread hijackers
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>>142592788
Accelerator's and Kakine's power couldn't be replicated by AC tech I thought. They couldn't even get a good Five_Over for Mental Out. Even the Five_Over Railgun is just a fancily named railgun carrying robot and doesn't actually have any of her electricity based powers.
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>>142592977

Still waiting for that Five_Over Emperor.
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>>142592786
I'm going to travel far away with Haruue!
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>>142592946
>make a thread mentioning raildex and power levels together
>not getting hijacked into a raildex general
Choose one.
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>>142592946

It was the best raildex thread we've had in a long while so there's that.
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>>142592511
>>142592598

I will bet everything I own that at least ONE character we know is a part of the Rensa program. Don't care if it's Rakko, Frenda, etc. they're one of the Rensas and they will come back.
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>>142592786
Does she have any chance at beating anybody worth mentioning in the series?
They really don't go very far into her ability and she seemed like she had potential?
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>>142593013

Thankfully Haruue has already traveled far and away from the series and will never be seen again unless Nagai returns for season 3.
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>>142593136
What even was her ability?
I don't remember her doing anything other than making puppets fall down.
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>>142593136

Her power means nothing because there is already a level 5 that can do that on top of many other things, but she has no combat abilities herself.

She only shows up a lot in the manga though, so you should pick it up.
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>>142592457
But most of the more powerful characters simply disappear once their arcs are over and the more recent case of staying relevant after that is Othinus, who is powerless.
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>>142593175
>She only shows up a lot in the manga though, so you should pick it up.
I thought you were talking about Haruue and was about to call you out on it until I realized you were talking about Shokuhou.
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>>142593174
She could literally make people go insaine just by looking into their eyes.
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>>142593177

We just have to wait for an SS, I believe in witnessing a three way slugfest between Gunha, Rensa, and maybe Thor if he's nerfed for some reason.
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Damn now I've got Harrue's name stuck in my head.
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>>142593272
She's too cute. She's the kinda girl you can take to the beach and build sand castles with. (I luv building sandcastles)

I'm want to just get away from it all sometimes. Getaway with Haruue.
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>>142593378
>I
Damn spellcheck..
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>>142592143
>Theres a problem though if magic was proven real in our world there would be millions of scientist trying to understand it right now

Yeah, except that in this universe anyone who does get too close usually suffers a nasty accident, either in the form of Necessarius, the Catholic Church's Knights, or AC's death squads comprised of 12-year-old girls.
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>>142593485
Couldn't you technically consider gravity magic?
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>>142593485
Magic is all around us anon. Pay a little more attention to the cute girls in anime and you'll see it soon enough to start believing in no time at all.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1G3LIXv_PoM
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>>142592457
Akikawa Mie-chan had more appearances and more relevance in the recent volumes than Fiamma.
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>>142593046
frenda a cute
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>>142593697

Thank you for making this a brighter place, mobileposter Haruuefriend.

>>142593926

To be honest Mie-chan could probably take Fiamma on in a fight right now and kick his ass.
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>>142593975
>Too easy, God's right seat!
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>>142594004

Mie has unlimited potential. The last time a literal who was introduced and given relevance like this, he survived multiple fights with level 5s and WW3, and ended up getting a harem of three level 4s, a level 5, and an AI.
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>>142594067
And we still don't even know what she looks like.
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>>142593697
>Thread theme
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>>142594081

>She doesn't get a design or anything until she beats her first boss
>The illustration after the page she wins is her with a smug look on her face

Please let it happen Kamachi.
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>>142581916
Thunder Armor?
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>>142594349

This is literally the only thing I remember from that Pokemon gen 3 show, and it's only because I was baffled by how Swellow didn't drop dead.
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>>142594349
But thunder is a sound though. Don't you mean lightning armor?
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>>142585768
FINALLY
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>>142594435
It's an attack called Thunder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdRndd1ZrDA&t=3m20s
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>>142594533
So it's basically the Pokemon trainers fault for not knowing how his pokemons powers work.
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>>142586296
same, helps when i'm stressed
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Page 10
We're really burning now!!!!
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>>142594679
Everyone already moved to the NT16 thread.
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>>142594807

>13/83 people
>everyone

On another note, I'm surprised a thread so heavily focused on Mikoto didn't devolve into the usual mess.
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>>142594992
You can't find this thread by searching Raildex on the catalog.
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>>142595104
I have Index Railgun and Raildex in my filters and it finds this thread just fine.
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Was a fun thread.
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>>142595104

I should have realized it when Frenda threads had more quality posts and discussion than threads with new content.
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